There is a lot of drama around people who fight over skulls. One of them is St. Irene.
This is what an Greek Orthodox web site has recorded:
“Some of the relics of St. Irene may have been stolen by the Latin Crusaders during the sack of Constantinople during the Fourth Crusade of 1204”.
Source: St. Basil the Great.
It must be said that theft done by the claimed to be holy Roman Catholic Church, is regrettable. At the end of the story, you will see that this criminal act were revoked in 1999, and the stolen skull returned.
The problem is that the Orthodox Church, accuse the Roman Catholic Church, not only of robbing their skulls. But also to “destroying holy places”.
“The Latin sack of Constantinople changed the “sacred physiognomy” of the city as its holy places were destroyed and desecrated, only to be partially restored when the Byzantines took back the city in 1261”.
Lets take a deeper look into this robbery.
“St. Irene was born in the city of Magedon, Persia during the fourth century, circa 310 A.D. Her Christian name Irene means peace, and she was one of the twelve Virgin Martyrs who appeared to the eighteenth century Russian ascetic St. Seraphim of Sarov and the Diveyevo nun Eupraxia on the Feast of the Annunciation in 1831”.
This kind of acts by a “saint” raised many questions.
The skull was stolen in 1204, and not returned until 1999. Still the claimed to be saint appeared among a dozen virgins, to another saint and a nun in 1831.
Did St. Irene appear with our with our her stolen skull?
If the “saint” appeared with a skull, the “saint” must have been able to find its own stolen head. And if that happened, why did not the “saint” her self return her own head back to its rightful owners already in 1831?
If the “saint” appear without its head, how did it find its way?
Could this been an example of a false miracle and sign? Or are the involved clergy just confused or misguided?
Most likely both. There is a need to come to a conclusion:
The Vatican is not only the largest collector of bones and skulls. The Roman Catholic Church is also a grand robber of pieces of dead mans flesh. Because if they were not robbers of this skull, why return the “holy item”?
Jesus the Messiah has a short message to religious people, who fight over bones.
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean.
Written by Ivar
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Such a website of Falsehood!!! You really think that is TRUE source of INFO!!! Please!!
Catholics and Orthodoxs do not worship relics as they worship God, by adoration. If you mean worship in the sense of honor or veneration, then Catholics certainly venerate the relics of Saints. The law, “Honor thy father and thy mother,” extends to their persons, body and soul; to their reputations, and to all connected with them. We reverence their remains even after death. And if we are not to venerate the remains and relics of the Saints who have been so entirely consecrated to God, are we to desecrate them? Or are we to be blandly indifferent to them as to the bleached bones of some dead animal lying in the fields? The Catholic doctrine, forbidding adoration, yet commanding respect and veneration, is the only possible Christian conduct.
Plus NO one holds that material relics of themselves possess any innate talismanic value. But God Himself can certainly grant favors even of a temporal nature through the relics of Saints, thus honoring His Saints, and rewarding the faith and piety of some given Catholic. St. Matthew tells us that the diseased people came to Christ. “And they besought Him that they might touch but the hem of His garment. And as many as touched were made whole.” Matt. 14:36. Again we read of a woman who touched the hem of Christ’s garment and who was cured. “And Jesus, knowing in Himself the virtue that had proceeded from Him, said: “Who has touched my garments.” Mk. 5:30. You may reply that these incidents concerned Christ, and that, whilst He was still living in this world. But that does not affect the principle that God can grant temporal favors through inanimate things. And if you look up 2 Kings 13:21, in your own Protestant version of the Bible, you will find that a dead man, who was being buried in the sepulchre of Elisha, was restored to life the moment his body came into contact with the bones of that great prophet of God. In the Acts of the Apostles, too, we read of a most Catholic, and most un-Protestant procedure. “God wrought by the hand of Paul more than common miracles. So that even there were brought from his body to the sick, handkerchiefs and aprons, and the diseases departed from them.” Acts 19:11-12. But you will notice that it was God who wrought these miracles. And we Catholics say that God can quite easily do similar things even in our own days. As a matter of historical fact, He has wrought such things throughout the course of the ages within the Catholic Church.
And if you look up 2 Kings 13:21, in your own Protestant version of the Bible, you will find that a dead man, who was being buried in the sepulchre of Elisha, was restored to life the moment his body came into contact with the bones of that great prophet of God.
The editors of this site has debated this issue with an unknown number of Roman Catholic priests. The arguments are well know. Let me write a reminder:
1. The bones of Elijah was not taken home to any Jew, neither exposed in homes, nor in any synagogue. Such a collection of bones for adoration, veneration or worshiped is banished from Judaism.
2. When the Catholic religion makes a doctrine out of the bones of Elijah, we understand the origin of looting of graves, and collection of bones.
3. Even if God worked miracles out of one (some) handkerchiefs, dos not means that God will do so with all other handkerchiefs. That is a short circuit. Please keep your hands off my handkerchiefs. If anyone starts to put some of my personal items on their shoulders and parade them through the streets, I will sue them in court.
4. If anyone have the intention to loot my grave and put my skull for exposure inside a “Church”, please admit them to a mental hospital. Let all know that i was a living saint who obeyed Jesus the Messiah in words and actions, and do not approve of such spiritual perversions.
FOOLISH FOOLISH FOOLISH,,,,,,,,Let me know the next time you got a skull & bones up for grabs…. so I can call the nearest pRIEST
God can use a handkerchief or whatever He wants. The scripture does not say the article itself was made holy, should be paraded around the streets on shoulders, kept in boxes to be bowed before and venerated.