In 1978. the ordinal statue of the “patroness lady of Brazil” fell down, and broke into pieces.
It is amazing, what God of the Bible is doing in bids to open the eyes of Roman Catholics, in regards to their shameful idolatry.
This is what Wikipedia has recorded:
On May 16, 1978, a Protestant took the statue from its niche on the Basilica after the last mass of the day. He was chased by guards and some of the church goers. As he was caught, the statue fell to the ground breaking to pieces.
The origin of this “fallen madonna”, is also fascinating reading.
The fishermen, having a run of bad luck, cast their nets in the River Paraiba and dragged up a headless statue of the Virgin Mary. They also salvaged the head and, according to the legend, then netted plenty of fish. After cleaning the statue, they found that it was a black version of Our Lady of the Immaculate Conception. Legend has it that when the fishermen recovered the body, then the head, the slender figure of the Aparecida Virgin became so heavy that they couldn’t budge it
In 1930, the Blessed Virgin Mary, under the title of Our Lady of Aparecida, was proclaimed the “Queen and Principal Patroness of Brazil” by Pope Pius XI.
My comments:
When the patroness of Brazil was discovered, just before 1737 A.D, she was not only black. She was also headless. A “queen” without both her head and her crown.
And when a Brazilian stole this “queen”, she did nothing to stop him. Not being able to rescue her self, she fell down and was dissolved into pieces.
The story do not tell anything about termites of mouses running across the flood of this church, when this pottery of clay was demolished.
God of the Bible is the potter, and we are the clay. Mortal men and females, just like Miriam the Mother of Jesus.
What a damnable and horrible wicked form of idolatry.
Galatians 1:6-9
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel – which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: if anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!
This must be one of the filthiest and most shameful way to tarnishing the legacy of a Jewish virgin, a Torah obeying women, the mother of Jesus the Messiah.
Their pried is in their shame, willingly deceived by a priesthood who live in sodomy, slaves of perversion, sin and indulgences. Being told the truth, but never understanding.
May Jesus Messiah continue to give me boldness to rebuke them, and expose their evil. Amen.
Written by Ivar
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Hmmmm… I cannot imagine that anyone who loves God would in turn hate and persecute His mother.
Persecution of Mary is often a sign of an untrue love.
Reclaiming the Sacred
Shalom.
hummmm. A piece of clay is not God’s mother. God do not have a mother, a grand mother, a couple of grand fathers, uncles and aunts.
A piece of clay, is a piece of clay.
So I suppose you do not have any pictures of your own mother hanging around? In a photo album, a picture frame?
If you do, bad son, bad! 🙂 Now why would you want an image of your mom to recall her to your memory? That is the most silly thing I have ever heard.
People want to be reminded of Mary because she is Christ’s mother. Nothing wrong with that.
Reclaiming the sacred
Shalom.
You asked:
So I suppose you do not have any pictures of your own mother hanging around? In a photo album, a picture frame?
My reply:
I have an empty cross hanging around, and on the cross it is written. “He is risen”. No need for a picture of my mother on the wall. I meet my mother quite often. She is a saved sinner, a human being, not a goddess to be worshiped.
Hi,
Well, that is good. I mean, I am sure it makes her feel good when she drops by that you do not want any pictures of her anywhere in your house, even in a photo album. (I am also not aware of anyone who thinks they are worshiping their mother if they do have a picture of her around.)
I am sure you see my point. Just because someone has an image or likeness of someone does not mean they are worshiping that image or likeness. It just means they care about them and want something around to show the respect that they have for them, as a reminder of the person they love.
Otherwise, we better start going after everyone and anyone who has images on anything….wait, I think I see some on your sight right now. Are you into idol worship? 😉
Reclaiming the Sacred
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You wrote:
People want to be reminded of Mary because she is Christ’s mother. Nothing wrong with that.
My reply:
1. Catholic Church: Mary, is the mother of God.
TRUTH: Jewish Miriam is the mother of Jesus.
2. Catholic Church: Mary, is the mother of the Church.
TRUTH: Possibly the mother of the Catholic Church of Rome. But not the Church of the Messiah, a Jew from Israel. God the Father is the Father of the Church. He has no mother.
3. Catholic Church: Mary, was ever virgin.
TRUTH: The mother of Jesus had many children.
4. Catholic Church: Mary lived without sinning.
TRUTH: The mother of Jesus was a sinner, who offered a sin offering in the Temple in Jerusalem. A Torah obeying young virgin, who gave birth to the Messiah.
Now, you have to decide. Do you believe in the Word of God, or are you going to keep on distributing false Catholic dogmas?
I am not sure where you got your word of God. If it is Muslim, it is null and void. If you read the New Testament, it foretold all believers to never accept any new doctrines that would come after that period of time.
Never.
All doctrine was closed with the last book of the New Testament, and it was warned that any new doctrines that may arrive in the future would not be of God.
So, which one do you go with – the earlier word of God that said there will be no more word of God, or the newer “claimant” which was foretold would not be true at all?
Hmmmm….
Reclaiming the Sacred
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
I hope you have come to this site to debate, not to beat around the bush.
Answer my question:
Are you going to take a stand for the Word of God, or are you going to continue to distribute false Catholic dogmas?
Sure, I am enjoying this debate. No beating around the bush.
My question holds more sway than yours though as it is backed up by historical evidence from scripture regarding the legitimacy of revelation.
Your question is based on your opinion of what is true and what is not.
So, until you can prove that the New Testament is wrong, and that there are solid grounds that you are right, I have not been given the tools to answer your question except your own opinion (and as you know, in this world it is not wise to bet the farm on the opinion of someone whom one has just met.)
God bless you my friend 🙂 It is a pleasure to debate.
Reclaiming the Sacred
Shalom.
Fine. Lets take it point by point.
1. Did Mary live a “life without sinning”?
Give me scriptures.
“Hail Mary, Full of Grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of they womb, Jesus.”
(Full of grace means full of grace – when a cup is full, there is no room for anything else, right?)
“From now on all generations will call me blessed, for He has looked upon the lowliness of his handmaiden, and scattered the proud in the vain imaginings of their heart.”
(All generations will call her blessed…shows her life was pretty extraordinary that all future generations on the earth would be remembering her and calling her blessed…why was it extraordinary? Because she was truly humble. And in the truly humble, can there be found any sin?
Now, where did I hear people in today’s generation calling Mary blessed, as she foretold they would throughout all of the future? Oh, right! The “Hail Mary.”
Where is that in scripture? See first quote above.)
God bless you my friend. I must give myself some sleep now.
Have a blessed evening!
Reclaiming the Sacred
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
That was a poor defense of your dogma. To be full of grace, and be without sin, is something quite different.
The Bible say that all men have sinned. If you are a created human being you have sinned.
Romans 3:23
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, (NIV)
Romans 3:23
Since all have sinned and are falling short of the honor and glory which God bestows and receives. (Amplified Bible).
Next:
The Jewish mother of Jesus went to the Temple, and offered a sin offering. Just after giving birth to the Messiah:
Luke 2: 22-24
22 When the time came for the purification rites required by the Law of Moses, Joseph and Mary took him to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord 23 (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, ‘Every firstborn male is to be consecrated to the Lord’[b]), 24 and to offer a sacrifice in keeping with what is said in the Law of the Lord: ‘a pair of doves or two young pigeons’.
(end of scriptures).
Only the creator is without sin. Jesus, the begotten Son, is the creator that came down from Heaven, and took on flesh. Only He is without sin.
Since the mother of Jesus was a created being, she was surely a sinner. That is why she felt for giving a sin offering. Even a child will be able to understand this.
What about you?
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Dear
RECLAIMING THE SACRED, refer
Matthew 12 : 46 -50
46 When Jesus was talking to the multitude, behold, his mother & brother stood outside, seeking to speak to Him.
47……………Look your mother & brother are standing outside, seeking to speak to You.
48 And He answered & said to the one who told him, “who is My mother & who are My brothers?”
49 And He stretched out His Hand toward His disciples & said “here are My mother & my brothers!
50 ”For whoever does THE WILL OF MY FATHER IN HEAVEN is My brother& sister & mother”
Here is not the physical one, or the woman who gave birth (to Jesus) but a HUMBLE, servant & a obedient follower of the WILL OF GOD, any woman & any man!
No veneration or adoring or lofty ideas are all discarded & are against FIRST & SECOND COMMANDMENTS OF GOD RIGHTLY & LEGALLY if you follow & understand The Bible.
Image or picture of Mother of Jesus, queen of heaven etc., etc,. is misleading into error and a sin.
Even Jesus rebuked his mother & brothers.
My dear brother in Christ Ivar,
I congratulate you for your faith and the convictions that you have in regards with the Catholic institution. I couldn’t agree more with you, but I have a question for you: During your research about what is truth and what is not truth in the doctrinal system of the Catholic church have you ever come across with the fact that they changed the authority of the Sabbath to the first day of the week, which they even brag about it, that they, the “Church had the authority to change the solemnity of the seventh day of the week to the first day of the week”? Also, Sunday is the Lord’s Day ,since when?
Dear Dan
Shalom.
I have written about this.
https://ivarfjeld.com/2012/12/09/laodicean-council-deleted-the-sabbath-and-all-jewishness/
It is important to underline, that man is not there for the Sabbath, but the Sabbath was made for man. Jesus challenged the religious authorities,who had made to many man made restrictions. Today, we can see the same problem within some of the religious communities of the Jews.
It can never be wrong to observe the Sabbath from sun down on Friday, to sun down on Saturday. If I have to work during this 24 hours, I should keep complete rest on an alternate day. Since most Christians are forced by the Papacy, society and culture to take rest on Sundays, it is easier to have fellowship on that day, than on other weekdays. But all of us can come together with family and friends on Friday evenings, have a meal together, and light two candles. Communicating with Jesus. It is not beyond possible.
Blessings to youBrother Ivar , I agree with you and the Bible, the “Sabbath was made for Man” and Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath and He is not referring to the ceremonial sabbath, but to the weekly Sabbath which is part of the Law of God. Jesus said the Sabbath is a sign between us and Him. He is the God of the Sabbath not the god of the Sunday. When He wrote the 4th Commandment in stone He started with the word “Remember” for a reason. He knew it will come a time when it will be forgotten. We are living in this times when the Sabbath of the Lord is forgotten and is taken more like multiple choice than a commandment.
By the way , you said:” Christians are forced by the Papacy, society and culture to take rest on Sundays,” Thanks God this is not true YET,and we still have the freedom of choice. I know, those days will come when Christians will be forced to observe Sunday as a “holy day”, but not yet.
1John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
May the Lord keep us faithful to HIS Word till the end.
The cunning of the beast is beyond our comprehension. He tries to demolish Jesus Christ’s Divinity by lowering all associated with Him.
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“My Mother plays an important role in the salvation of souls.
She is the Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix of Grace and Advocate. This means that My Blessed Mother has been chosen by God to help Me, her Son, in the final plan of salvation.
Her role in this significant period of time is not understood.
She gave birth to the Redeemer of Mankind and brought into the world the Gift of Salvation because of her acceptance to become My Mother.
She is the Mother of all God’s children now and she has been given the power to crush Satan as I prepare to salvage the human race from his wicked plan to deceive God’s children.”
-Your Jesus
Dear Oldman.
Shalom.
Some would request me to spam you, but I will let you have your freedom of expression on this site. I will do through your last comment, point by point.
You wrote:
“My Mother plays an important role in the salvation of souls.
My reply:
1. “Your mother”. Since she is not your physical mother, she must be your spiritual mother. And since she is a created being, you are involved in pure blasphemy against the Word of God. Because the Word of God says that you have to be born again by the Spirit of God, and a claimed spiritual re-birth by your “mother” can not take you to the Kingdom of heaven. But rather to the eternal flames of Hell.
2. “salvation of souls”. Your “mother” can not even save her self.
You wrote:
“She is the Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix of Grace and Advocate”.
1. “She” can NOT help You. You are not HER Son, and SHE has no part in the final plan of salvation”.
2. “She” has no blood that can save. She can not pay for your sins.
b. She is no “Co-redemptrix”, because she can not forgive sins.
c. She is no advocate. That is purely the role of the Holy Spirit.
3. “She” has no power to crush Satan. No created being has such power.
In conclusion:
I have not come across so many lies in such a small passage of religious blasphemy against the blessed mother of Jesus, the Orthodox Jewess virgin Miriam, who gave birth to the Messiah.
She is a crated being, who offered a sin offering in the Temple of God, in line with the Law of Moses.
She was not Roman Catholic, did not worship idols, and rebuked all who tried to elevate her to the post of a pagan goddess.
She has become a victim of the lies of all wicked, damnable God-mockers in the religious movement who submit to the Vatican priesthood. You tarnish the legacy of his Jewess, surely a blessed young virgin, that found favor with God of Israel.
Repent, or perish.
Those words quoted are not my own words. It is believed a mdm message by Jesus. If that is truly Jesus’s words, there is absolutely no need of defending it. Wait for some more time; the time will reveal all; and this is the time!
Old man,
Jesus alone is our Savior. Anyone or any thing or any institution that tries to create a co-redeemer is in direct allegiance with satan because it directly contradicts Gods Holy Word.
Do you not realize anyone can ‘pen’ some words and sign off as ‘Your Jesus’?
As a former follower of Mary Co-Redemptrix, I highly recommend you you elevate Jesus to #1 post in your heart…to ask for forgiveness and to pray only to Him.
Kay
Stay away, Oldman, please.
Dear Lis
Shalom.
Rather be happy that Oldman is willing to debate with us, as he expose the Roman Catholic Church to be not Christian. Share the gospel with Him, and to all who read his comments. The Holy Spirit might come up on them, and redeem them from deception and bondage.
“If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him. Anyone who welcomes him shares in his wicked work.” 2 Joh 1:10-11.
Dear Lis.
Shalom.
I do not “welcome” Oldman, accepting his teachings. I rebuke Him. If I can not communicate with sinners who disagree with me, how will I share the gospel with them?
Oldmen is a deceiver, who try to deceive as many as possible. Don’t give him the opportunity – don’t let him in. He destroys, what you build.
???Oldmen is a deceiver…He destroys, what you (Ivar) build.
ha ha ha.
Dear Lis Jensen, are you a co-worker for Ivar to work to bring many souls for Jesus? Do not fear. No power in the world could destroy what Ivar build (if it is truly) for Jesus
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It is Jesus, the Savior and Redeemer of mankind, Who died for the sins of man. (bottom line?)
Dear Oldman.
Shalom.
Jesus is the rock of salvation. Jesus will build His Church. No co-redeemer, no co-matrix.
I have permitted you to comment on this site. You will continue with my permission, as long as you play by the rules.
Lis is not a co-worker of News That Matters. She do not write articles on this site. Lis is my sister in the Messiah, and we agree on Biblical doctrines. Accept that our debate shall be on topics related to faith, and not about persons. Insult against persons without regret will not be tolerated.
Let me give you an example. I do not have anything personally against any Pope. But I am deadly against the not Biblical doctrines related to the Papacy. When the Pope commit an error, false doctrines are behind his failure. It is possible for all of us to love Roman Catholics, but still hate Catholicism. Like Jesus loves sinners, but hate sin.
“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.” Matt 7:!. False prophets are very dangerous to men – even to Christians.
Dear Lis.
Shalom.
But Oldman is rather harmless. He do not even claim to be a Bible believer. Not a single Christian who knows the ABC of the Bible will be deceived by this worshiper of Catholic Mary, and the demonic messages of M-D-M, whatever medium this might be.
And our fight is not against flesh and blood. So let us continue to highlight the truth, and lead people onto the right path.
Dear Ivar.
Shalom.
If you are going to respond every time, these lies are pronounced on this site, it is OK for me. But you will have to spend a lot of your time and power doing so.
Dear Lis
Shalom.
Let my response be my response. I am not ready to give up on any Roman Catholic. I will continue to tell them the truth till my last breath. This morning I told an old RCC priest to repent. I told Him that if he refuse to repent,there will no salvation. I promised to come and see him again.
Well said Brother Ivar. As you said and it is biblical, “And our fight is not against flesh and blood. So let us continue to highlight the truth, and lead people onto the right path.” My dear Brother in Christ, Ivar, I have a question for you : How much poison you need in a glass of water for the water to be contaminated? If your answer is ” a drop” you are right. The same rule applies to the Biblical doctrine and the catholic doctrine when they are mixed together. You are concentrating your efforts in the more obvious matters of the catholic doctrines but you are deceived, with all do respect, in the matter of the Sabbath of the Lord. I know you will say that the Sabbath was for the Jews, like you commented some time ago. Think that the Sabbath was instituted at the time of the Creation at which time there were no Jewish people yet. The “sabbaths” that pertained to the Jews were those of the Ceremonial Laws which were introduced by the Holy Spirit through Moses for the Jews . The Book of Moses which contained the rules of the Ceremonial Law was placed next to the Ark of the Covenant, but God’s Law, which was written in stone and contained the Law of God including the fourth Commandment (being the only Commandment that starts with the admonishing word “Remember”) was placed inside the “Ark of God.” In conclusion , Brother Ivar, Sunday ( the Day of the Sun, the day of the Sun god) is a result of the First Apostolic Catholic Church, not of the Protestant Church. The Catholic Church was first. Approximately,1500 years latter, the Protestant Church came around carrying some of the catholic doctrines with them. This is the” Poisonous Drop ” in the “Protestant Glass.”
I hope you won’t understand me wrong. I do not want you, or any of your readers, to convert to Seventh Day Adventism or any other denomination. I want you to look at all the facts, which are the doctrinal poisons that is in the cup full of abominations of the Woman dressed in scarlet, and is riding the Beast.
The diversity in the faith that exist today is because of the human reasoning. Let’s pray for the Divine Wisdom that comes from above which is the uniting power under Jesus Christ.
Amen!