If you ever get the desire to pray in front of a leg bone, this might be your chance.
For those who might believe this is a joke, you will get a proper link to the publisher’s of these photos.
The Relic of St Oliver Plunkett in kept in the parish church of his native Oldcastle in Ireland. Please do not let your children pray in front of his cut of head. They might get nightmares.
His feast is 11th of July. If you want to read more about St. Oliver, we have provided some information for you. Click this link.
I am not sure what persons in the Bible, this kind of wickedness best can be related to. But I have concluded that the dull mind of King Nebuchadnezzar might be a suitable example. The idolatry of the Babylonian king made him mad. He started to eat grass “like a cow”, and even his nails became deformed. He must have both looked and acted like an animal.
Immediately what had been said about Nebuchadnezzar was fulfilled. He was driven away from people and ate grass like cattle. His body was drenched with the dew of heaven until his hair grew like the feathers of an eagle and his nails like the claws of a bird.
I am not sure if the bones of “St. Oliver” can hear any prayers. But the priest have at least given the worshipers a notice of whom this leg bone is supposed to have belonged too, before his grave was opened and looted by Roman Catholic priests.
Written by Ivar
This is an amazing story in the Bible. I like the part where The Lord God brought him back to a normal life. Yet he knew this God is not one to take lightly!
As for these wicked men of Catholicism that amazes me the length Satan can take a person that is willing to following him as the majority of Catholics do, yet that too is a mercy that God can and has brought many out of that religion as he has and is bringing many out today from that deception and from all deceptions.
When we tell the Gospel it sets men free, or it as Jesus said it becomes a stumbling block to them. Because the have a choice to choose what the Gospel says or what their teachers, friends, etc tell them of the false religions they are in by family choice of teaching them….but the Truth is always in front of them to choose whom they will believe!
Andrea, grow up and get a Life you stupid deluded Woman.
Their are only !6 men walking with this bone, and most of them are old people. Are there no freaks in every part of the world? Ireland has a substantial population.
Today people are aware, through many sources.
TRUTH ULTIMATELY REIGNS.
Doesn’t Isaiah 8:19 say, ‘Why consult the dead on behalf of the living?’
I used pray as a child in front of it, whats wrong with remembering youre mortal? or maybe we should take down crucifixes too because they might disturb children too?
You said ‘Whats wrong with remembering youre mortal?
[ máwrt’l ]
human: relating to human beings
eventually dying: certain to die eventually
fatal: causing death
Synonyms: earthly, worldly, human, corporeal, finite, temporal
Philippians 3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.
Colossians 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
Colossians 3:2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
Actually – you are correct, Lee – we shouldn’t make nor own Crosses – or images of Jesus – or any other form of idolatry. God (the God of the Bible) forbids us from using idols, images and statues.
The Rcc followers would know that – if they read the Holy Bible – but – if you look at the Rcc’s “copy” of the 10 Commandments, you’ll see that they (Rcc) have removed – completely – God’s 2nd Commandment. And no surprise, that’s the Commandment where God forbids idols, images and statues.
They removed the 2nd one completely – then moved the others up one slot – then split God’s 10th Commandment in to two separate Commandments – so that it appears to be God’s 10 Commandments – but – it’s not. It’s the Rcc’s altered (added to/ taken from) “version”.
For that sin alone, God says He will remove their part of the Book of Life.
We dont pray to him, we are put in mind of the sacrifice he made for his faith. Same as the crucifix, we dont pray to a plaster/plastic Christ effigy…we are reminded of the sacrifice He made.
Get your facts straight before you judged, motes and splinters in eyes come to mind…as does the phrase “judge not lest ye be judged”
Leon you can’t hide behind that scripture ~>”judge not lest ye be judged”<~ We are to judge righteously..
Hebrews 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
Hebrews 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Hebrews 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
That’s the key though – with the Rcc followers – satan has them convinced that the God of the Bible’s Word isn’t His Word – isn’t the truth.
That’s exactly what satan did to Eve in the Garden – he got her to doubt what God had told them – asking her “Did God really say you would die?” – and that planted the seed of doubt in her mind – and he was able to convince her to go against the God of the Bible’s command to them.
Humans believe we are so smart – that we could never – ever – be so gullible as to fall for satan’s tricks. Got news for the human race – – we have ALL been deceived over the centuries. For proof of that – we need to look no further than our lit’l festivities on Dec. 25 – as well as easter, halloween, valentine’s day, new years day, etc – – – all (ALL) of them originated from the pagan and other evil cults – and actually, the Rcc is the entity that dragged the Dec. 25 “santy clause” to our society.
Anything evil in our world today – you can usually tie back to the Rcc. Sad – but true.
If you were reading from the God of the Bible’s actual WORD, you would know that in Ezekiel He tells us to warn those (believers) who we see sinning a sin unto death – and not many people would argue that messing with dead bones is a most extreme form of idolatrous witchcraft. God says if we warn them – and they repent, then we will have saved our soul. If we don’t warn them – and they don’t repent – He says He will require their blood on our hands.
So get out of the way – while the rest of us obey the Lord thy God of the Bible.
The statement that all evil’s in our world are a traced or tied to the RCC is wrong evil has been on the world since Lucifer was cast down .It existed in the time of Abraham and in the time of Christ,well before the RCC was even formed,but do the priests/pope commit sin in there religion ?Yes they do.Lucifer’s rebellion brought evil into the world from the very beginning ,not the RCC they just perpetuate it as do many religions,even singular evangelist groups etc
“Once while some Israelites were burying a man, suddenly they saw a band of raiders; so they threw the man’s body into Elisha’s tomb. When the body touched Elisha’s bones, the man came to life and stood up on his feet.” – 2 Kings 13:21
Mind you, this are the bones of an Old Testament Saint. Now the dead in Christ are only dead corporeally. They live in Christ, and have communion with His Church in the One Spirit of Christ. Christ has overcome death. Therefore, though the body of this Irish Saint has died, his younger brothers in the church have found it fitting to show him reverence for his service to the Lord, and to honor him in the name of Christ – and in so doing give reverence for Christ who was the cause of this man’s holiness. Indeed, his prayers are more efficacious now that he is before the throne of Christ on High then they were when on earth. So yes, we will ask him (pray him) to pray to the Lord on our behalf, for “The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective” (James 5:16). How much more a righteous man who is worshiping Christ face to face with Him?
I take issue and call you to repent of your uncharitable words – comparing reverential and good people to idolaters who worship idols – The reverence of these men far outweighs your words of scorn. Good and peaceful men they are for all we know. On their behalf I challenge you to more humility.
God loves you. God bless you! Christ save and forgive us all in His great love and mercy!
Signed – A Christian of the one Universal Church Christ founded on the living Tradition of the Apostles.
P.S. You are all in my prayers – and, per my request, the prayers of St. Oliver who pleads before the throne of our Merciful savior. Be not surprised if God knocks on the door of your heart. Come home to the Church Christ founded on the Apostles. You are welcome here.
You can take issue with it all you want. But Christ has commanded, COMMANDED, you not to worship bones, statues, that are demonic and can do nothing for you. Why not praise to Jesus directly? Why kiss a man’s decrepit bones, over and over? That is satanic, and an outrageous lie. You are an idolater and truthfully Satan and his minimons love when you fall to your feet and kiss rotting bones.
But the Word of God is clear.
Exodus 20:1-10 And God spoke all these words, saying, “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. “You shall have no other gods before me. “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, …
Romans 1:25 Because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.
Exodus 20:5 You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me,
1 Corinthians 10:20-21 No, I imply that what pagans sacrifice they offer to demons and not to God. I do not want you to be participants with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons.
Thank you for the question based on scripture. This we can take as our starting point of agreement.
Indeed, consulting the dead is forbidden. It is forbidden by the Holy Catholic Church – the church Christ founded on the Apostles.
We must consider then What “Consulting” means. Consulting the dead is however, ‘conjuring up’ the dead in order to get information from them. Tell the future. Shamanism, etc. This is foolish, and does not befit a child of God who needs not even worry about the future because we believe that it is in God’s hands anyway.
However, praying (e.g. asking) the dead for prayers is something very different. Indeed, they are only dead corporeally – not in Christ. If they are in Christ, they are alive. This is why we pray (ask) the saints for prayers to the Lord. They are our elder brothers and sisters in the Lord. For more thoughts, see the post I just added a few minutes ago.
Also, if you want an image of the Saints in Heaven praying for the saints on earth, see the book of Revelation. It’s quite explicit. The Angel offering the incense, the prayers of the saints, etc. Here:
“Another angel, who had a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of all the saints, on the golden altar before the throne.The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of the saints, went up before God from the angel’s hand.” – Revelation 8:3-4.
There is more if you read more of Revelation.
God bless you all! I love you and Christ loves you. Seek Him and His truth with all of your heart, and with all Charity – if you are open to it, He will lead you home to his Church – the One, Holy, Catholic (universal) and Apostolic church.
Signed – a christian of that same church – youngest brother in the Lord Jesus Christ.
You said: However, praying (e.g. asking) the dead for prayers is something very different. Indeed, they are only dead corporeally – not in Christ. If they are in Christ, they are alive. This is why we pray (ask) the saints for prayers to the Lord. They are our elder brothers and sisters in the Lord. For more thoughts, see the post I just added a few minutes ago.
My comment: Wow. Splitting hairs here aren’t you? Asking the dead for prayers, asking the dead for anything is idolatry, and also invites demons into your home. This is the truth, whether you believe it or not.
The Bible said: ALL HAVE SINNED, AND FALL SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD. Do you understand that? ALL HAVE SINNED. The only one we should ever consult is our King.
This world is filled with such ungodliness, and many of you walk taking the Pope and the catholic lies as the truth. But know this the Word of God says: that we will all stand before him and confess what we have done.
2 Peter 2:1-22 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment; if he did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a herald of righteousness, with seven others, when he brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly; …
2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
No, I am not splitting hairs. The word pray in english means to ask or intreat. Thus I pray to God, to the saints who subsist within him both on earth and in heaven.
There is a vast difference between praying and worshiping. The fact that modern english has lost these two senses, or that many have not understood these to senses is inconsequential to the truth of the matter.
You have said (in caps) “All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.” This is true but not the whole story – and/however, it is not literally true. For it to be literally true you would have to also state that Jesus, himself a human as well as divine, has also sinned. Has he? Absolutely not. So the passage must not be meant to claim this in an absolutely general and literal way. It is possible that some have not – Two to be exact – Jesus and Mary – this is the unbroken Christian Tradition.
Has St. Oliver sinned? Likely at some point in his life. Do his sins follow him into the afterlife? Not if the Lord has forgiven him of them of the eternal consequence of them and he has no remaining corporeal punishment to satisfy.
So the Lord has raised his soul out of sin, and we await the day when the Lord will raise his body from the dead. Until that time we ask him for prayers on our behalf, we esteem him for the virtue that the Lord made manifest and possible in his earthly life, and we cherish in hope his remains until the Lord Himself raises them from the dead on the last day.
In fact, demons are quite afraid of the remains of the saints.. because in them is a reminder that their cunning was to no avail – and that the Lord has brought for victory in the soul of this saint and that their body is pledged for future glory. So to bring a relic of a saint into my home would be to drive away satan.
Right now presently ; let me forget future Judgement; let us refer to the bronze-snake put on the pole during the time of Moses;; even after Moses died and hundreds of years afterwards this snake was carried along to the land of milk & honey; and was worshiped & sacrifice was made for it;;;;;refer 2 Judges 18 ; 1-8; only when this bronze-snake, and the sacred pillars and high places were destroyed and smashed did Israel prosper in all he (Hezekiah) set out to do.
Did the bronze-serpent violate the SECOND COMMANDMENT, no, because GOD said so ,and there is something beyond the bronze-snake and the dead-body hanging on the cross, it is REDEMPTION, GRACE, TRUTH, LOGOS, BLOOD,SPIRIT, I have to go back to basics and not swallow and digest what is practiced and told, even by an angel from heaven:::: refer ,,,,,,,,,,,,,Galatians I : 8.
Are not these bones & relics & holy place rubbish?
John 4: 23…………….and indeed the FATHER seeks such people to WORSHIP HIM.
Then apparently one should not have reverence for the graves and remembrances of loved ones? We are all one family in the Lord in the Catholic Church. We reverence the relics of our loved ones in the Lord… The Lord has conquered death, and while these remains await the resurrection, they are still sacred in the eyes of the Lord who has promised to raise them. Anyone who says otherwise says sou outside of the Christian Tradiation, and cannot claim to be within the unbroken profession of faith taught and passed down from the Apostles until now.
Oh deary deary me, such Warped Minds on this site. Folks, the Bible was Written by MEN, not any GOD. It was been chopped up, re-edited, re-written so many many times that it is impossible to determine which of any of it is truly original. Things happened the way they did to People like Oliver Plunkett because he and others like him lived in an Age where there was no way for the majoritiy to know that there was/is more to existence than our little Planet (and that has NOTHING to do with your “God”) those that did know through observation, were persecuted. Religion is only second to Money in that it was and is the Root of EVIL. The majority of the Human Race is wiser now and has more Knowledge of what is truly out there. Yet this Site shows that there are truly some seriously deluded People out there (Andrea etc) who are unable to accept the realities of Life and are desperate to feel like they are better than everyone else and use their stupid Religions to try and enforce their delusions on other People. To you lot I say…..GROW UP YOU IDIOTS AND GET A LIFE AND JOIN THE REAL WORLD.
…..GROW UP YOU IDIOTS AND GET A LIFE AND JOIN THE REAL WORLD”. Sad to come across a self-glorified person like yourself. True faith is an experience and an unending practice to help a innocent person who is willing to accept THE LORD OF LIFE; it is not a ping-pong game.It’ a lifelong study of The Bible & The Gospel.
And Christian; their is a vast difference between GOD’S prophet and man-made saints, which involves money & glamor;highway to destruction.
Sad, sad, sad ending.
Redemption is the only word for the elect, God’s greatest gift to man and ONLY one MEDIATOR LORD JESUS CHRIST. But an unbeliever has to undergo the conviction of sin and The Holy Spirit will lead him to TRUTH, no chance to join the temporary carnal world, it’s Eternal Life we are discussing about.
Jane your comment is totally wrong. Will you be kind enough to let us know The Publisher of the RCC Bible which you are referring to; so that I could check it out. Any details of it would be helpful.