William Branham lived from April 1909, and died in December of 1965. He claimed to be a minister from God, a prophet even.
But William deceived many by twisting God’s word to suit his own selfish purpose, and still does so. Many still proclaim he was a true man of God, but he has been exposed as a false prophet. Let’s take a look why:
1. Branham was once asked , “”Is it not true that you are not saved unless you have received the Holy Ghost?” His response was, “There could take a good five hour discussion on that.”
My response: Why the 5 hour discussion? William’s answer should have been:
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
2. Branham said, “I’m convinced that the same Angel that come down in the form of a Man and talked to Abraham with His back turned to the tent (yet knowing the thoughts in Sarah’s heart), is the same One here tonight. He promised it would be. I believe that that same Angel anoints us, because It was God. Do you believe it?”
My response: A man who gives praise to an angel, surely risks their own soul. For it is Jesus Christ, who deserves ALL GLORY and PRAISE.
Acts 12:21-24
On the appointed day Herod, wearing his royal robes, sat on his throne and delivered a public address to the people. They shouted, “This is the voice of a god, not of a man.” Immediately, because Herod did not give praise to God, an angel of the Lord struck him down, and he was eaten by worms and died. But the word of God continued to spread and flourish.
3. William Branham was photographed several times with a fire on his shoulder, and a ring above his head. When asked about it, his response was: “Put it on the shelf. They didn’t believe the others and they won’t believe this one either”. He also claimed to be Elijah the prophet, and when many believed this, he never corrected them.
Deuteronomy 13:1-5
If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the Lord your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him.
2 Cor. 11:13-15
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their deeds.
4. Braham strongly denied the trinity: God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.
My response:
One of the Bible verses that shows God and the Holy Spirit are one.
Acts 5:3-4
Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.”
Here’s another one.
Isaiah 43-10
You are my witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.ses,” says the LORD.
5. Another one of Branham’s quote:
“Same thing by being a true Christian. You have to be identified with it. I preached with Moses and war-with Noah and warned the people of the oncoming judgment, to be a real Christian. I was with Moses at the burning bush; I saw the Pillar of Fire; I saw His glory. I was with Moses up there in the wilderness. To be a Christian, I have to be identified with everything God was, to be a Christian. I seen His glory; I heard His voice. Don’t try to explain it away from me now, ’cause I was there. I know what I’m talking about. I seen what happened. Yes, sir!”
6. Another quote from Branham:
“I was at the Red Sea when I seen the Spirit of God move down and part the water from one side, … through about a ninety foot sea. I seen the Spirit of God. I walked with Moses through that dry ground, across that Red Sea. I stood by Mount Sinai and seen the thunder and lightning falling. I eat manna with them out there. I drank from that Rock; I’m still doing it tonight. I was identified with the manna-eaters. I was identified with them that drunk from the rock.”
My response:
For if Satan cast himself as an angel of light, so can these liars who twist God’s word. That Branham was a false prophet, should be pretty evident to a Bible believing Christian, just by the words he spoke. But unfortunately, many choose to be lead blindly. In this day and age, so close to Christ coming, we cannot afford to be lazy. We must always be on guard, against Satan. And that is by reading the Word of God and praying to Our Messiah.
Matthew 7:15
“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.”
1 Timothy 4:1-5
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.
Written by: Gloria
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Shalom
Branham was not Christian for
his teachings contradict the
bible. One example is opening
the seven seals of Revelation:
He said, “I saw seven angels in
the form of a pyramid that
swept down, picked me up and
was brought east to open the
seven seals of
God” ( Commissioned by Seven
Mighty Angels). “Who is worthy
to open the book and loose the
seals? No man in heaven or
earth was able to open the book
except the lamb that was slain
and redeemed us to God by his
blood” (Rev. 5:1-10).
That’s exactly one best quote I’ve ever heard listen, NO MAN IN HEAVEN OR EARTH WAS ABLE TO OPEN THE BOOK.However William Branham did just that what a revelation AMEN! He must have been more than a man
Convert,
The word if God says no one was able to open the book, no one was found worthy to open the book, so Branham lies greatly when he says he was worthy enough.
Please visit http://www. You are wide asleep.
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A simple fact that you cannot see It, is exactly what Jennes and Jambros did, they wait first for Moses then they follow.
A friend of mine wrote a book regarding William Branham. It may interest you. http: *censored by editor*
Editor: I apologize but no links allowed on this site. If you would like to contribute, you may comment.
Sorry, I did not know about the rule. The book “Legend of the Fall”, by Peter M. Duyzer, which can be read online or as a E-Book, was written by someone who came out of Branhamism. I thought Peter far more qualified to speak to the issue, than myself. Blessings!
John,
The Holy Word of God shreds any horrible lie Branham ever told. I am glad though Peter saw the truth, and wrote about his experience.
God Bless.
I strongly disagree with you there.If there was a man who preached sound and balanced Bible doctrine and demonstrated the power of the Holy Spirit in his ministry,it is William Branham.I urge you to study his message wih an open mind and heart.
Thank you.
Muza,
William Branham has spoken so many lies, I could probably make a daily posting on this blog for months.
William said, ” He never called Himself the Son of God. He referred to Himself, the-‘Son of man, because He had to come according to the Scripture.”
The BIble says: John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Who will you believe? The Holy Word of God? Or a deceiving man like Branham:
Gloria
Don’t let your church or yourselve decieve you. All Branham critics are not true in their comments. Remember that Branhamites as a denomination has nothing to do with brother William Branham, they have twisted his message to suite their own twisted believes themselves, and you are acting worse. Did you know that I can judge you worse than what you are doing to a man of God. It is easy to judge anybody (Like they did with Jesus Christ) but the questions is do you really understand William Branham’s message or are you going with the flow (people acceptance) as most people did in Jesus Christ time? Just to advise you on your quote “He never called Himself the Son of ….”, Branham did not reffered to himself in this quote.He just simply quoted what the Bible says of Jesus Christ in one of his sermons. What are you trying to say/indicate with this quote??, If you intend to indicate that Branham referred to himself with this quote, then you are the liar.
Franshwa,
You said: Don’t let your church or yourselve decieve you. All Branham critics are not true in their comments.
My comment: I do not follow man, and if a man preaches to me what is not in the Word of God, then he is preaching lies.
Your comment: Did you know that I can judge you worse than what you are doing to a man of God
My comment: I will repeat it ONE more time. I do not judge Branham. I try and correct the errors that he has clearly preached. I do not know Branhams heart, for only Christ does. And that is who judges all. CHRIST is the King of all things, and when I stand before him one day, that is who will judge me. You who are a sinner as well as I need Christ, and we will not be judging anyone.
Branham twisted the Word of God, and 2 Peter 2:1-3 describes those that do such a thing. You can accept the truth or not. That is your choice.
2 Peter 2:1-3 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
Gloria u need to repent God help you,u are highly being decieved.
Muza
We can see that you have been deceived because you came here to defend him And you know in you heart that he twisted the Word of God, I’m wondering for your soul truth will set you free
God bless you;that’s the messanger of God to this dyeing age.
Surely, I believe that William Branham was a true prophet of God who was misunderstood by many especially the religious establishment of the day, as has been the case with all the true prophets of God. Even the Lord Jesus Himself was rejected by the religious establishment of the day. However, false prophets are always acclaimed as the men of God, regardless of how much they deceive and fleece the people with their so called prosperity Gospel.
Please acquaint yourself with the ministry of William Branham before you begin making your criticism.
Charles,
Here is another quote of Branham, ““Why don’t you examine your baptism of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, and that false ‘trinity’ it’s so-called…”
My comment:
Matthew 28:19 says: Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Who are you to believe the liar that Branham is, or OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, JESUS CHRIST?
father, son, holy ghost are titles not names
The Name of the father,son and holy ghost is the Lord Jesus Christ, don’t forget to repent also acts 2:38
Convert,
Those who deny the Holy Ghost will not be found in heaven.
Stop being so deceived and seek Christ not Branham!
Hi Gloria
‘Father’, ‘Son’ and ‘Holy Ghost’ is not a name but roles, What is the ‘name’ of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost?. The evidence is in the 32 + times in the bible where people where baptised (after this instruction from Jesus Christ) in ‘The Name of Jesus Christ’ compared to the one verse you have quoted. This means that you are 0/32*100 = 0% correct with your Bible understanding in this regard, because as mentioned above that Father, Son and Holy Ghost is not one a name but roles of our King. Our Kings name is ‘Jesus Christ’ and we have to baptise in His name. Please re-check your Bible by doing a search on baptism.
Charles
You said
Surely, I believe that William
Branham was a true prophet of
God who was misunderstood by
many especially the religious
establishment of the day,
Because you still follow that man and we have give yo some of his quotes but you continues to call him a prophet
So what make you believe that Branman was truly send prophet of Yeshua while his teaching contradict God’s word?
Branham was a false prophet through and through. What’s scary is how many pentecostal groups that looked up to him.
I have to say I am in the minority then. I am pentecostal christian, and I don’t agree with any of Branham’s teachings. As a matter of fact, in studying him I have not found one of his teachings to be exact as the Word of God.
The church I attend believes in God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.
I believe that Christ still uses believers to speak in tongues, to cast out demons, to show visions of what is happening and what will happen.
Acts 2
Peter Addresses the Crowd
14 Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice and addressed the crowd: “Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say. 15 These people are not drunk, as you suppose. It’s only nine in the morning! 16 No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
17 “‘In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18 Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.
19 I will show wonders in the heavens above
and signs on the earth below,
blood and fire and billows of smoke.
20 The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.
21 And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved.’[c]
*end*
But I also believe that are many out there, who will mimick and use the Word of God for their own lies, and selfish gain.
This is why we must always pray to Christ to show us the way, and we must use discernment.
Gloria
Shalom
I agree with you And my Church believe in the gifts of Holy spirit, fivefold ministries taught by Apostle Paul
You probably are in the minority. There’s a lot of strangeness in a lot of pentecostal churches. But there are some that are good.
I CORINTHIANS 14:26
26 ¶ How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying
Hi Gloria
Your statement ‘The church I attend believes in God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.’ The same did brother William Branham also believed in. I recommend that you put a more serious efford in studying his message before you comment.?
Franshwa,
Apparently your choosing to defend a man who’s claimed he’s walked with Moses, who’s given thanks to angels and glorified them, and who claims he’s Elijah among all the other lies he’s stated.
That is your choice. I choose to believe Jesus. And those who do not preach according to the gospel (like Branham) are preaching lies.
Again your choice.
The bible tell us very clearly that by the fruits you shall know them! Without talking about what Branham taught, i would to point you to very basic Bible truth. 1 Can not produce a scripture where one person was ever baptized in the name of THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY GHOST, without that name being Jesus Christ. English is my second language but i will still tell you that FATHER SON and HOLY SPIRIT are no names , but attributes. The Bible calls the devil the father of lies, the Bible calls him the devil, the son of the morning, the Bible also calls him an Evil spirit.. Jesus was specific when he said in MAT 28:19 , they already knew the name that is why they name made the mistake we see in churches today.
Jesus is the name of the father Jesus is the name of the son and Jesus is the name of the holy spirit!
Joh 5:43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
The first Baptism was in the name of Jesus Christ, Acts 2:38
Second was in the name of Jesus Christ Acts 8:16
Third was in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ Acts 10: 48
The fourth was in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ Acts 19.
Should the last one change? show where it changed? Read the history of the church , you will find out where they changed it, and why!
Read Catholic encyclopedia, Hastings etc, i will post the pages. I have a lot to write but for now kindly, may the Love of God fill your heart. We are living in very dangerous times, lets search the scriptures, let begin here. God bless you my Sister, brother?
Simon
You wrote
The bible tell us very clearly
that by the fruits you shall
know them! Without talking
about what Branham taught, i
would to point you to very
basic Bible truth. 1 Can not
produce a scripture where one
person was ever baptized in the
name of THE FATHER, SON AND
HOLY GHOST
You spreading heresy if you were ever Pastor I dont think i’ll follow
The proper form of baptism is in
the name of the Father, Son, and
Holy Spirit as Jesus designated in
Matt. 28:19 , “Go therefore and
make disciples of all the nations,
baptizing them in the name of the
Father and the Son and the Holy
Spirit.” The clear command of Jesus
is to baptize this way. But, if that is
so, then why do we see so many
instances in the New Testament
where people were baptized “in
Jesus’ name”?
Acts 2:38 , “And Peter said to
them, ‘Repent, and let each of
you be baptized in the name of
Jesus Christ for the forgiveness
of your sins; and you shall
receive the gift of the Holy
Spirit.”
Acts 10:48 , “And he ordered
them to be baptized in the
name of Jesus Christ. Then they
asked him to stay on for a few
days.”
Acts 19:5 , “And when they
heard this, they were baptized
in the name of the Lord Jesus.”
The reason they were baptizing “in
the name of Jesus” is not because
it was a formula, but because the
phrase, “in the name of” means “in
the authority of. We can see proof
of this in Acts 4:7-10 ,
“And when they had placed
them in the center, they
began to inquire, ‘By what
power, or in what name,
have you done this? ‘ 8
Then Peter, filled with the
Holy Spirit, said to them,
‘Rulers and elders of the
people, 9 if we are on trial
today for a benefit done to
a sick man, as to how this
man has been made well,
10 let it be known to all of
you, and to all the people
of Israel, that by the name
of Jesus Christ the
Nazarene, whom you
crucified, whom God raised
from the dead, by this
name this man stands here
before you in good health.
MATTHEW 12:37
37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned
Convert,
Christ died for our sins and comes soon. His sacrifice for us will never be replicated.
Branham was a sinner who denied the trinity, denied the holy spirit and made a mockery out of the word of God.
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53 Now, when this great thing takes place, there is one egg waiting for one germ out of that million. And there is no one can tell which germ that is, or which egg that is. If you’d watch the natural birth, it’s more of a mystery than the… than the virgin birth. Because, in this sperm, there is one in there that’s predestinated to live, and the rest of them will die. And it isn’t the first one meets; it’s the first one that comes together with the egg. Maybe the egg may raise up from the back of the sperm, or the middle of the sperm; the germ may do the same, the egg. The germ crawls into the egg, and little tails drop off of it, and there starts the spine. There is only one in that whole load, of a million, that’s going to make it, only one; and that’s determined by some unknown Force, to man. Yet you’re, every one, alike, every one of those germs are just alike. Same thing in animals. Same thing in man. It’s determined whether it’s going to be boy, girl, red-headed, black-headed, or what. It’s determined by God. All of them look the same, naturally, but there is one in there that’s ordained to life; one in a million, yet all of them alike.
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54 When Israel left Egypt, there was approximately two million people left at the same time. Every one of them heard the message of a prophet. Every one of them saw the Pillar of Fire. Every one of them was baptized to Moses, in the Red Sea. Every one of them shouted in the–in the Spirit, beat the tambourines and run up-and-down the bank, with Miriam, when Moses sang in the Spirit. They, every one, drank from the same spiritual Rock. They, every one, eat fresh Manna every night. Every one of them! But there was two made the land, one out of a million.
55 What was the test? They all drink in the same Rock, they all eat the same spiritual Manna as we’re eating this morning, but the Word test proved them. When it come to the time of Kadesh-barnea, when they started over into the promised land, and they could not go over till they was tested by the Word. And all the–the other ten came back, and said, “We can’t make it! The people are like… We’re like grasshoppers, to them, their great walled city. The opposition is too great.”
56 But Joshua and Caleb stilled the people. They said, “We’re more than able to do it!” Why? God said, before they left, the promised land, “I’ve given you the land. I’ve give it to you. It’s yours.” But there were one out of each million.
The words you speak are from where? Because evidently they are not from the Word of God!
REVELATION 3:12
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, [which is] new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and [I will write upon him] my new name
I CORINTHIANS 13:10
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away
Someone tell me where anyone other the Jesus Christ and William Branham could tell the people the very secret of the heart, I think you need to take a closer look
Convert,
To compare Jesus Christ with Branham is a blasphemous. For Christ is God, and Christ died for our sins, whereas William was a sinner that needed to repent against his lying ways.
You are the one who should take a look at even daring to make such a comparison. To even think that William could see the heart is absolutely ridiculous.
Let me tell you something:
A man once came up to me and told me I could read you. He then grabbed my hand (uninvited) and proceeded to tell me, your pregnant. I snatched my hand back, and that is where I said, get away from me, your from the devil.
And he stood looking at me stunned. Then proceeded to tell me, how he was not from the devil and walked away. Never once did he mention Jesus Christ, or God’s word.
So that Branham could tell what others knew is probably a form of witchcraft, and does not justify his twisting use of scripture. That he denied the Holy Spirit is even worse..
This is a comparison to what I said:
There was a Christian preacher who called for people to be prayed for at the altar. I went up because I was going through a difficult time in my life. The preacher prayed for me, and then said, “I don’t know what you’re going through, but Jesus wanted me to tell you he loves you.” And in that moment, I felt the presence of God and became emotional.
Do you see the difference? you might say that has nothing to do with Branham. But let me summarize it for you. A preacher who is ordained by Christ will come up and pray for the sinners, will do things in the name of Jesus, and will not twists God’s word.
Branham twisted God’s word and gave thanks to an angel. Branham thought he was Elijah the prophet, and said he was with Moses. Branham was a liar and a deceiver.
Jeremiah 5:30-31 An appalling and horrible thing has happened in the land: the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule at their direction; my people love to have it so, but what will you do when the end comes?
Convert
Don’t Twist God’s word how can you Compared a false prophet Brahman and Jesus, Just read what this false teachers he has made which is unbiblical
What did William Branham “really”
teach and believe!
“Were identified with him in Acts 2.
We’re identified with them, with
the same baptism, same thing. All
he was then, and all he is, all he
was, and all he is, we are . That’s
exactly.”
“Same thing by being a true
Christian. You have to be identified
with it. I preached with Moses and
war-with Noah and warned the
people of the oncoming judgment,
to be a real Christian. I was with
Moses at the burning bush; I saw
the Pillar of Fire; I saw His glory. I
was with Moses up there in the
wilderness. To be a Christian, I
have to be identified with
everything God was, to be a
Christian. I seen His glory; I heard
His voice. Don’t try to explain it
away from me now, ’cause I was
there. I know what I’m talking
about. I seen what happened.
Yes, sir!”
“I was at the Red Sea when I seen
the Spirit of God move down and
part the water from one side, …
through about a ninety foot sea. I
seen the Spirit of God. I walked
with Moses through that dry
ground, across that Red Sea. I
stood by Mount Sinai and seen the
thunder and lightning falling. I eat
manna with them out there. I
drank from that Rock; I’m still
doing it tonight. I was identified
with the manna-eaters. I was
identified with them that drunk
from the rock.”
“I was with John the Baptist and
before them critics. I seen the
Spirit of God descending; I heard
the voice of God say, “This is My
beloved Son in Whom I’m pleased
to dwell in.” Yes, sir! I sure was
Identified with him. That’s exactly
right.”
“I was with the 120 in the Upper
Room. I was identified up there
with them. Oh, 1-1 feel religious.
Amen! I was identified there. I’m
one of them. I was identified; I got
the same experience they had. I
was there when it happened, to be
a true Christian.”
Excuse me the “Lord your God shall raise up a prophet liken unto me” Son of Man
Wow they said the same thing about Jesus in His day. they called Him a devil too, then sent Him to the cross
Convert
So You called yourself Christ? It Simple and pure Blasphemy Don’t ever compared Branhan with Jesus
And you still don’t believe when they show you some of his teaching, Do you think A true phophet can contradict God’s holy word?
And why do you try to defend him have you ever been in his meeting or you the who are spiritual blind?
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78 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the Word and of the prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
Oh, my, if we just could go into it right now… Look. When is the time at hand? When the Revelation of Jesus Christ has been revealed to the Body of Christ, and Christ has been revealed, not dead, but alive, living in His Church, doing the same things He did, the same ministry, the same Gospel, the same sign, the resurrected Christ, when He’s revealed by His Angel into the Church, then the time is at hand. And never a time, since that day until this has the mystery of Jesus Christ ever been revealed until these last few years. Then the time is at hand.
William Branham 06/17/1956
Convert,
A question for you.
Branham said, ““ He never called Himself the Son of God. He referred to Himself, the-‘Son of man, because He had to come according to the Scripture.”
The Bible says:
Isaiah 43:10,11 – “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior.”
John 20:28 – And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”
So again who do you think we’ll believe: Branham or Jesus?
Because Moses spoke these words “the Lord thy God shall a Prophet Liken to Me” Son of man He had to fullfil that scripture. You just have to dig a little deeper sister to have a revelation of Jesus. Heb 13:8
What you quote is a section of the Word of God titled, “The Prophet.”
The Prophet
14 The nations you will dispossess listen to those who practice sorcery or divination. But as for you, the Lord your God has not permitted you to do so. 15 The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him. 16 For this is what you asked of the Lord your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly when you said, “Let us not hear the voice of the Lord our God nor see this great fire anymore, or we will die.”
17 The Lord said to me: “What they say is good. 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him. 19 I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name. 20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”
21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed. *end*
Notice the last versus 21-22. Branham claimed the Lord would come in 1977. He did not. Branham was wrong and deemed a liar. The versus 21-22 apply to him strictly.
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75 There’s where so many people today, is going to be so terribly disappointed at the day of judgment: to know that they’ve lived in church, to know that they have done good deeds, to know that they have treated their neighbor right, to know that they have been loyal to the people, loyal to the church, and in their mind have believed that Jesus Christ the Son of God and be condemned at the day of judgment.
Jesus said, “Many are called and few are chosen. Strait is the gate and narrow is the way that leads to Life, and but few there will be that find it.”
Now, to you people here this morning, I–I want you to set up and take notice to this. You’re old enough now. You’ve heard enough Gospel preaching, till you ought to be able to–to get off of milk and to come to a real solid Gospel diet: come to a place where men and women ought to stand. Paul said, “When you ought to be teachers, why, you have to be taught to, yet.”
185 Now, He lived here on earth. He never did say He was the Son of God. He said, “I’m the Son of man.” Jehovah Himself called Ezekiel and the prophets, “Son of man.” Because, He had to come to fulfill Scripture as a prophet. Moses said, “The Lord your God shall raise up a Prophet likened unto me.” That’s the reason He could not be the Son of God there, because He was the Son of man. He… “The Word came to the prophets.” And He was the Word in Its fullness. Son of man, the–the major prophet… Not the major prophet, but the God-Prophet, “The fullness of the Godhead bodily was in Him.” Therefore, He was the Son of man.
186 Now, for two thousand years, He’s been known to us as Son of God, Spirit.
187 And in the Millennium, He’ll be Son of David, upon the Throne. We all know that, who believe the Scriptures.
Take your lies elsewhere. You are only interested in spreading lies, Convert, seek another forum and may God touch your heart and /or you see the truth before it’s too late.
Convert,
At the day of judgement what’s going to shock people isn’t going to be any of the above that you quoted.
What will shock them is when they realize that they do not have LIFE.
As you know, there are 2 Trees:
Tree of Life and Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
If you eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, this is what will be important to you:
Good deeds, works, going to the “right” building/denomination, listening to certain pastors, studying scriptures, praying, teaching, etc.
But the problem is this: Though some of these things are “good”, none of these things can give you LIFE.
There is only one way for you to get LIFE.
On the day of judgement, there is only ONE thing that will matter. Do you have the LIFE dwelling inside you? Jesus is that LIFE. He is the very TREE of LIFE spoken of.
It is SO simple — that even a child can do it — but sometimes, it is too simple for people to grasp.
You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life. (John 5:39)
Have you come to Jesus and asked him for his LIFE?
Dear Gloria.
Does that mean Acts2:38 is wrong because it does not do according to Matthew28:19 pertaining to baptism Of which Br. Branham whom you is a “liar”teaches that the only true baptism according to the Bible is in the Name of Jesus Christ?
Jesus told them repent and be baptised in the NAME of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost. Now how could Peter have it wrong. He didn’t he had the revelation of what Jesus said, and what peter bound on earth Jesus bound in heaven
God Bless you all
PS “men will know your my disiples when you have love for one another”
See you still hold to doctrines of man, because if you didn’t you’d realize that without Christ nothing is possible. With Christ all things are. So we never give thanks or praise to an angel or to Mary or to anything else but to JESUS!
Sister/Br Gloria
I appreciate your zeal for the Lord Jesus Christ. I wish that God gives you more revelation and knowledge to know about and respect all the people whom God is using to spread His Word, rather than to criticise them for no apparent reasons, for now you criticise Rev. Branham but I dont get what lies he preached and you do not tell us what lies are you refering to in his teachings. Give us a qoute and the reference if you can so that we can go and read to see if it is lie indeed.
Excuse me for being so forward but did you not read the article? This man claimed to be with Moses, yet the Bible did not say a man joined Moses. This man Branham claimed to be Elijah, yet we know that Elijah walked with God and was taken to heaven. Are you so blind that you dont see the truth? He denied the Holy Spirit , yet God in his merciful Glory allowed me ( a sinner) to feel the Holy Spirit. Man I speak with all my heart when I tell you awaken and follow Christ not man!
Hi Gloria
You are stating many things of what William Branham supposedly said, like he claimed that he was Elijah. Please as mentioned above, study his messages with an open mind, then you will see how much lies you are spreading in this forum. I guess that you only study his work through critical webpages. Don’t expect to get the truth, you will only get twisted info that is typical of our enemy. He never stated that he was Elijah. But I challenge you to quote this if you can.
Franshwa,
No I am stating what Branham actually said. I will not study Branhams messages. Reading them alone has pointed out to me the lies he has told, and has confused you and many others.
You protest that Branham never called himself Elijah. Branham knew his followers believed him to be Elijah, YOU KNOW THAT VERY WELL, and yet he never corrected them. I think you protest a bit too much.
Branham stated that he is God’s voice to man at this time being the angel of the church. On November 27, 1965, Branham said that the Elijah prophet would be a revealer of the Word and it’ll be the revelation of God made known to us BY VINDICATION. His “regular commission” was the “Revealing of the Word – the mysteries contained in the Seven Seals.”
“But in the last days, it will have to be a prophet to take up the mysteries of God, . . . ? . . . because the mysteries would only be known by prophets. So it has to be this fellow coming. Do you see what I mean now? He can’t be a reformer; it has got to be a prophet, because it has got to be somebody that is gifted ; and set there that catches the word” (The Revelation of the Seven Seals p.145).
Branham even dared to apply the prophecy of Ezekiel 34:23 to himself.
You know very well that you and others believed him to be Elijah, yet you sit there trying to defend him. That is your choice. I choose to believe in Christ and his Word.
Praise the Lord I’m so happy to know Him
thank you all. Brother Branham said “when you come together talk about the deep things of God”
Thank you Gloria for your responses I had a wonderful time
Convert
Spread your heresy elsewhere rather than here you make and twist God’s word
Convert,
I hope you realize the error of Branham’s ways. I feel he leads many to path of destruction, by denying the Holy Spirit.
May Jesus touch your heart, and you see the truth before it’s too late.
I’ve never heard of this “Brother Branham before”, but just a quick Google search to browse through one of his sermons… so many red flags. —- This quote quite honestly tells me all I need to know. I don’t need to read more or even want to. (What an ugly, ugly sermon — so much hatred, so much distortion!)
This from a sermon called: Marriage And Divorce that was delivered on Sunday morning, 21st February 1965
“…Now, listen. Now, for about five minutes I want to call your attention to something. What is God? God is a great eternal. At the beginning, way back before there was a beginning, He wasn’t even God. Did you know that? A god’s an object of worship, and there wasn’t nothing to worship Him; He lived alone. And in Him was attributes…”
There is so much wrong in this quote. God himself tells us that he is the Eternal God.
There is only one question I would ask here:
Who are you going to believe?
Jayna
Thank you For that Sermon you have quoted it is very clear that Branham was a deceiver Liar and even twist the holy word Of God
As for your question on whom are you going to believe?
First of All we have to test the spirit because even devil himself can disguise himself as an angel of light
2 And I believe those who don’t twist God’s word
Brother dnt be decieved none of thoes qoute have proved the servant of God wrong.
This man was full if lies, Jayna. I choose to follow my God; Jesus Christ!
Sir I will nt be carefull to answer you that you have, not. Made any point clear you just told us what we all know,I persived that u are in great deseption the bible call thee spirit of unbeliieve evil.hmm check out. WMB sermon with an open mind and prayerfully read tru
Gloria
Amen
Dear Sister Gloria.
Br. Branham says”There can be nothing broken in the Scriptures. Every WORD must be so. That’s the way that I believe it. That’s the way it’s got to be, not because I believe it, because it’s the WORD of Gd”. (64-0614m. Unveiling of God page 10, paragraph 61). Does that mean he denies the Holy Spirit? Please take your time read more of these sermons I think you will change your mind after reading, my precious sister.
FJN,
You quoted, “Br. Branham says”There can be nothing broken in the Scriptures. Every WORD must be so.”
You don’t get it. That the word of God is infalliable is a certainty to me. I believe in HIM. But the problem is Branham, when he used the word of God, twisting to suit his own need.
Revelation 19:9 Then the angel said to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!'” And he added, “These are the true words of God.”
Let me ask you a question. Branham said, ““Why don’t you examine your baptism of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, and that false ‘trinity’ it’s so-called.”
The Word of God does not lie, so it is William who lies.
Do you believe that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are the trinity/are one?
One cannot claim to love Jesus, and deny the Holy Spirit. It is wrong.
I’d also like to add, that William Branham preached what is called the “serpent seed.”
He disgustingly claims that Eve had relations with the serpent (satan) and bore Cain.
Let’s see what the Bible says about this:
Genesis 4 says: “Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, “I have acquired a man from the Lord.”
Another lie to the stack of lies Wiliam has told.
Hi Gloria
Did you also noticed that the Bible states only once that ‘Adam knew Eve’ not twice. So where does Abel came from?
Franshwa,
So what your saying is that you believe in the serpent seed doctrine, which is a complete lie. It is you who should pick up the Word of God and again, not follow man but Christ.
Cain and Abel
4 Now the man had relations with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain, and she said, “I have gotten a manchild with the help of the Lord.” 2 Again, she gave birth to his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of flocks, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
FJN: Hello,
I looked up that sermon you mentioned (64-0614m. Unveiling of God).
There is so much I could bring up, but let me just mention one part of the sermon:
“When the Word was in Moses, he was God in flesh. When It was in Jesus, It was God in flesh. See? Only thing He done was change His mask, not His Word, not His nature. He’s the same yesterday, today, and forever. He only changed His form. He changed from Noah to Moses; He changed from Moses to David; from David, Joseph; on down till He come into the Fullness of the Godhead bodily. See..”
Can you honestly look at these words and NOT see the errors?
Dear Sister Gloria.
I myself believe in the WORD of God and I praise God for what is doing for me , I am born again, saved by the BLOOD of the Lord Jesus Christ. I would to believe what Rev. Branham was preaching coz what he preached is the pure Word of God, even if you can follow his preaching you can know Christ more better, it is not wrong to follow the man who follows Christ for the bible tells us so. The only problem I assume you have is that you only read the parts that suit you not the whole message of the sermons of this Reverend who was so used by God, this man who was so poor in material things but rich in the truth of God not bcoz he chose to be used but God chosed him thanks be to God that at this end-time He(God) sent the man of this calibre to be an ambassador of the Kingdom of Heaven. I do not follow Br. Branham I follow Christ in him, and what he preached I find that it is consistent to the Word. I will always appreciate the servants of God, those who promote Christ in any way whether in writing,preaching, caring for the others, singing,or sharing wisdom etc, e.g you Sister Gloria, Ivar, many more etc and may God bless you all. NB: Jesus is Coming!
FJN,
William Branham’s teachings are NOT according to the Word of God. I will try to get you to answer my questions, one more time.
1. He taught a lie that was called the Serpent Seed-in which he believed Cain was born from Eve and the serpent. Do you believe Cain was born from Eve and the serpent (devil)?
2. Do you believe that God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit are one?
3. Branham stated, “I still maintain this prediction after thirty years because, Jesus DID NOT say no man could know the year, month, week or day in which His coming was to be completed. So I repeat, I sincerely believe and maintain as a private student of the Word, along with divine inspiration that 1977 ought to terminate the-World systems and usher in the millenium.”
Do you believe in the above comment? Because the Word of God says: Matthew 24:36 No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
4. Branham said, ““Show me one place where God ever had anybody baptized in the name of the Father, Son, Holy Ghost. Find those things. And yet we constantly do them.” “You show me one place where one person was baptized in the name of the Father, Son, Holy Ghost, I’ll raise my hands and say I’m a false prophet.” “… I challenge anybody to show me one place where anybody was ever baptized in the name of Father, Son, Holy Ghost.”\
Do you believe in his comment? Because the Word of God says,” Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,”
I was baptized at the age of 12, accepting Jesus as my Savior.
Please answer the above questions. Do not avoid them.
Br. jayna
The God that was with Moses is the same God that was talking, walking with Abraham, the same God who was with Isaac, Jacob, the same God that you serve, the God who created Heaven and Earth, the God who saves therefore what is wrong if a person says he/she was with God before the creation of Heaven and Earth?(Gen1:26-27) if you believe that God is Eternal then you were in His thought already therefore when you are born is the vindication of His Thought. To me it means so as I believe that God is Eternal He has no Begining nor Ending what He says in Gen1:26-27 had already existed in Gods mind and it it not coupled with time frame as far as I perceive what eternity means. And take note God created man in His own image, His likeness therefore the image of God according to John4:24 is Spirit. Therefore if the Spirit man(you/me before we were born) in the Thought of God who was with Moses then I can agree that when Moses was crossing the sea with God I also was there crossing the very same sea in God as the thought by then. So then I believe when Br. Branham says He was with Moses.
FJN,
You stated:
Br. jayna
The God that was with Moses is the same God that was talking, walking with Abraham, the same God who was with Isaac, Jacob, the same God that you serve, the God who created Heaven and Earth, the God who saves…
My reply: I couldn’t agree more that the SAME God that was “WITH” Moses is the SAME God I serve. However, that does not address this erroneous teaching from Branham that I showed you. As a matter of fact it has nothing to do with what I showed you.
Please read Branham’s words again: You might have to read them slowly. (I will capitalize IN and IT for emphasis).
“When the Word was IN Moses, he was God in flesh. When IT was in Jesus, It was God in flesh. See? Only thing He done was change His mask, not His Word, not His nature. He’s the same yesterday, today, and forever. He only changed His form. He changed from Noah to Moses; He changed from Moses to David; from David, Joseph; on down till He come into the Fullness of the Godhead bodily. See?”
Gloria, you said (quoting Branham)
Branham stated, I still maintain this prediction after thirty years because, Jesus DID NOT say no man could know the year, month, week or day in which His coming was to be completed. So I repeat, I sincerely believe and maintain as a private student of the Word, along with divine inspiration that 1977 ought to terminate the-World systems and usher in the millenium.”
Woa!!!! ————— DIVINE INSPIRATION?
FJN and others need to run, now walk, but RUN from this false teacher.
How much clearer can God be in Scripture to warn us of the above?
Dear Br. Jayna
To my understanding PREDICTION and PROPHECY are two different things. I think the man of God stated clearly that it is his prediction, he didnt say that the Lord Jesus Christ would come in 1977. In the qoute he repeats by saying that it is Prediction and I would like to warn you brother lean not to your understanding. You can not hold him responsible for what he predicted the Bible tells us that the Prophet is accountable of what he prophesys should it not come to pass then was subjected to be stoned to death but none of the prediction. Prediction is the prediction.
FJN, you said:
Dear Br. Jayna
To my understanding PREDICTION and PROPHECY are two different things. I think the man of God stated clearly that it is his prediction, he didnt say that the Lord Jesus Christ would come in 1977. In the qoute he repeats by saying that it is Prediction and I would like to warn you brother lean not to your understanding. You can not hold him responsible for what he predicted the Bible tells us that the Prophet is accountable of what he prophesys should it not come to pass then was subjected to be stoned to death but none of the prediction. Prediction is the prediction.
My reply:
FJN: Scripture instructs us to speak the truth in love:
(Ephesians 4:14-15) Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming. 15 Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ.
Do you honestly believe you are speaking the truth in love here when you state that there is a difference between prophecy and prediction when spoken by someone who claims to be a prophet of God under divine inspiration?
Definition of PROPHECY
1
: an inspired utterance of a prophet
2
: the function or vocation of a prophet; specifically : the inspired declaration of divine will and purpose
3
: a prediction of something to come
Can you show us an example of this in the bible where a person who CLAIMS to be a prophet yet makes false predictions and is not considered a false prophet?
FJN, by the way, the Jehovah Witnesses use the same type of game to explain away their failed prophecies. Do you really want to stand before God someday and explain that you followed a false prophet because it was a prediction not a prophecy?
FJN,
Now your quibbling over Prediction and Prophecy, just to prove you still have an imagined leg to stand on. When in fact, every ridiculous thing Branham ever said is a lie. You just refuse to acknowledge it.
Jayna,
All of the quotes provided on my article and on the comments here are direct quotes from William Branham himself.
Dear Br. Jayna
To my understanding PREDICTION and PROPHECY are two different things. I think the man of God stated clearly that it is his prediction, he didnt say that the Lord Jesus Christ would come in 1977. In the qoute he repeats by saying that it is Prediction and I would like to warn you brother lean not to your understanding. You can not hold him responsible for what he predicted the Bible tells us that the Prophet is accountable of what he prophesys should it not come to pass then was subjected to be stoned to death but not for the prediction. Prediction is the prediction not prophecy. Please read and read, just read it change your attitude then you can make conclusion. I am not forcing you to accept the teachings of this Rev. Branham. What I know if a man denounces Christ then that person is not for Christ but this Br. branham I have not find any thing from him that denounces Christ. He points people to Christ, he tells people to accept Christ. Many people have been healed by Jesus Christ through his sermons, this man has explained very well the GodHead as the bible teaches,he has gift of healing and descenment, Blly Graham, Oral Roberts, Dr. Bossworth an many great ministers agreed in one accord really God was using this man of God, therefore must we deny the work of God just because what he preach does not touch our hearts? Or becoz it does not raise faith in our heart? If we are so blinded such that we cannot see the greatness of God expressed in a man must we ignore what God is doing for those who are humble enough to see God in a man? We need to Glorify God in work through man, God in a man not man in God, as Paul says “And they glorified God in me”(Galatians1:24). Forget about the poor english he was using look to the motive behind. May God open your eyes of your Heart so that you can see beyond what you can see. May God take your blindness so that you can see, only Christ Jesus can save not br. Branham take note of that. He himself accepted Christ as his personal Saviour, as he was a sinner like me then grace of God took over, then God used him to preach and turn the hearts of many to Christ.
FJN stated: “…What I know if a man denounces Christ then that person is not for Christ but this Br. branham I have not find any thing from him that denounces Christ. He points people to Christ, he tells people to accept Christ…”
FJN, what concerns me the most in your above statement is that the “Christ” who Branham is preaching isn’t the same Christ I know who is revealed in scripture.
As you know, the bible talks about those who would preach a different Jesus and a different gospel.
(2 Cor 11: 1-4) I hope you will put up with me in a little foolishness. Yes, please put up with me! 2 I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him. But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.
FJN, look at Branham’s preaching. He says:
“What is God? God is a great Eternal. At the beginning, way back before there was a beginning, he wasn’t even God. Did you know that? A god is an object of worship, and there wasn’t nothing to worship him; He lived alone. And in him was attributes. What is an attribute? A thought.”
Now compare what Branham preaches to the following
Lord, you have been our dwelling place
throughout all generations.
Before the mountains were born
or you brought forth the whole world,
from everlasting to everlasting you are God. (Psalm 90)
FJN: So, isn’t it clear when you read Psalm 90 that BEFORE the mountains were born or the world was brought forth, BEFORE there was a beginning) God was God?
That’s not what Branham is saying is it? Why would Branham make up something that contradicts the clear words in the Bible? Do you really want to trust someone like him?
A false Jesus or “another” Jesus cannot save you. Let God himself teach you. He will never lead you astray.
Thank you dear Child of God Glria.
Firstly: I honestly believe in the Trinity of God as that means Father, Son and Holy Ghost but not as three separate Gods, this is the very same ONE God. Secondly: I concur with you what you say in terms of baptism, truely the bible says “go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptising them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: I request you to look again this verse and ask yourself why Jesus didnt say “in the NAMES of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost” instead He said in the “NAME” and He new what He was doing and Jesus knew what He meant off which the Appostles were to understand later after they were to be reminded by Holy Spirit(Jh16:13)then Peter, to whom Jesus said I give you the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven, started baptising people in the Name of Jesu Christ. The KEYS are used to open the door/the Gate( whatever)but now the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven is that you must be born again that is how you enter this Kingdom of Heaven, be Born Again(John3:3,5 be born of water and of Spirit in order to enter the Kingdom of God. For the remission of Sins you must be baptised in the Name of Jesus Christ then you shall receive the gift of Holy Ghost(Acts2:38)why the “NAME OF JESUS CHRIST” not the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost? This is the ONLY NAME given on Earth(Acts4:12 “Neither is there salvation in any other; for there is none other NAME under heaven given among men, whereby WE MUST be saved” there is no other name sister not the Father Not the Son ,not the Holy Ghost do you know why? its becoz Father=Lord+Son= Jesus+Holy Ghost=Christ so Lord Jesus Christ is in The Father the Son and Holy Ghost, so Jesus told his disciples to baptise in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost bcoz He didnt want to reveal by then who He was that is why He charged them not to tell any one that He is Jesus Christ(Matthew16:20). NB the Scripture do not contradict in any way from Genesis to Revelation. Good night my precious sister and other viewer its really good to have this fellowship I hope you are not emotional coz some times we find our selves harsh to one another, for me I gain something out of fellowship, we/you may find ourselves jerlous about our God yes its possible Elijah the prophet was very jerlous about God until He said to God he was left ALONE and God told him that there are 7000 more people who have not bowed to any Idol, now I am going to sleep SA time is at night now. Shalom and God bless you.
FJN,
I kindly request you leave this blog. You refuse to believe in Jesus Christ infallible word, and now have taken to twisting God’s words just like Branham.
That Jesus said: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is infallible.
The fact that you use those words, to try to make some sort of “Branham point” is absolutely mind boggling. You do not answer my questions directly, nor do you acknowledge the error of Branhams ways.
High Gloria.
Do you want to tell me that you still do not understand that the Word of God does not contradict itself. I wonder how do you understand these two Scriptures i.e Matthew28:19 and Acts2:38) now it is not br. Branham it is the Holy Scriptures of God, what blinds so much like this? This is a hidden mystery of God revealed to the true believers of God. Its clearly stated that secrete things belong to God, but revealed to His children(Deutoronomy29:29). There is no contradiction in the Word of God, Peter in Acts2:38 did what he was told by Jesus in Matthew28:19 and this does not come from Br. Branham its from the Holy Scriptures. Search the Scriptures deligently see God in them do not be blinded by the fact that you do not agree with br. Branham, I only love the WORD of God. For now my precious daughter of God I sincerly apologise for anything that I wrote to you which offends you in anyway, I recognise you as a Child of God as I claim to be, from the bottom of my heart I ask forgiveness in this regard and I know what you can feel if someone does not agree with. I appreciate you. If there is another truth more than what I read from this infallable Word of God may God help me to understand it and I will believe it. I am not stubborn to the Word of God may be I do not get a breakthrough. To serve God according to His Word is my greatest wish.
FJN,
First, I’d like to say thank you for apologizing. I’m not offended, but I give thanks that you ask God to help you understand.
The Word of God is infalliable, and since God is creator of all things, his Word does not contradict itself.
Let’s look at the verses you quote:
1) Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
2) Acts 2:38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
These two terrific verses are parellell to each other in some ways. First, Christ in Matthew says to make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the son,and the Holy Spirit. Then in Acts, Christ through Peter, tells us to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
I do not understand what you are trying to ask me FJN.
It is obvious that God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit are one. Obviously in Acts also states that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one. And the Holy Spirit is a gift from God.
Again what are you asking me?
Also, I’d like to repeat one of my earlier questions. Please answer it directly.
Branham teaches that Cain was born of Eve and the serpent (the devil). Do you BELIEVE in this teaching?
Please answer the questions directly, with a yes or no.
Hi FJN I have bean following closely your debate with Gloria and I think I have found the problem,……. KJV Deutoronomy 29:29 The secret things belong unto our Lord our GOD: but those things which are revealed belong to us and to our children for ever ,that we may do all the words of the law ….. so FJN if you read this verse as it stands… GODS secrets belong to Him and to Him alone!… but the secrets he has revealed….. now belong to us …,as he has given them already…. This verse in no way implies that there are mysterous hidden secrets that only a few true beleivers will uncover…Now dont get me wrong as I know for a fact there are great mysteries about the word of GOD, but these are in plain veiw and not hidden from man but there for all to see …FJN when any preacher claims he has cracked some hidden code of the bible ,and can read things that are not in it , and then convinces others to also beleive in his verstion ,then my freind you are no longer following the word of GOD ! it is that simple ,So FJN I can tell by your writeing you are a very devout, humble servant of GOD and you do not need this preacher or any other preacher between yourself and JESUS. anymore….. You say it is your greatest wish to serve God according to { HIS WORD } is this not a contradiction when you serve these {preachers words} ??????????
AMOS 3:2
2 You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.
AMOS 3:3
3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?
AMOS 3:4
4 Will a lion roar in the forest, when he hath no prey? will a young lion cry out of his den, if he have taken nothing?
AMOS 3:5
5 Can a bird fall in a snare upon the earth, where no gin [is] for him? shall [one] take up a snare from the earth, and have taken nothing at all?
AMOS 3:6
6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done [it]?
AMOS 3:7
7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
AMOS 3:8
65-0219 THIS.DAY.THIS.SCRIPTURE.
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Please stop copying and posting lies from Branham on this site. Links are also not allowed. If you would like to comment, do so. Gloria
The Word only comes to the Prophet that’s God’s Word Amos 3:7
Convert,
I’m going to ask you the same question I asked FJN.
Branham preached that Cain was born from Eve and the serpent (satan.)
The Bible says Genesis 4, “4 Adam[a] made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain.”
Which do you believe? Please answer the question.
Convert:
The Word only comes to the Prophet that’s God’s Word
Since Branham doesn’t agree with God’s word as so clearly explained in this thread, how is it that you think God walks with him?
Amos 3:7AMOS 3:3
3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?
That’s odd the signs and wonders sure did folow Him, rasied the dead,blind seeing again, God vindicating every word He ever spoke, however I understand how you feel if you don’t see this.
Thank You for the reponse
That Branham was a false prophet is obvious. And that is why God told us from the beginning:
Deuteronomy 13:1
13 [a]If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the Lord your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. 5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death for inciting rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery. That prophet or dreamer tried to turn you from the way the Lord your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.
Convert: That’s odd the signs and wonders sure did folow Him, rasied the dead,blind seeing again, God vindicating every word He ever spoke, however I understand how you feel if you don’t see this.
Thank You for the reponse
Yes, Convert, isn’t it ODD?
The same signs and wonder follow Satan.
(Revelation 13:11-14) Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 AND IT PERFORMED GREAT SIGNS, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, IT DECEIVED THE INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived.
For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, TRANSFORMING THEMSELVES INTO THE APOSTLES OF CHRIST. And no marvel;
for SATAN HIMSELF IS TRANSFORMED INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works” 2 Corinthians 11:13-15
Can Scripture be any clearer? If you think signs and wonders prove anything, you might want to rethink that.
Thank You Sir
All of the Branham haters are taking his words out of contexts and thinking in a narrow and petty fashion, like many denouncers of the bible do to it. The father the son and the holy spirit is the same thing… they were only seperated into different entities by the catholic church to appeal more to the romans and and greeks who were accustom to polytheism, Also he didn’t claim to be the prophet Elijah only to have the spirit. i’ve only found him to lead people to the word and to seek the truth. Many people don’t want to except the message of woman not wearing make up and clothing of men but that is the start of many bad things in the world today is the roles of the sexes being perverted. it is the end times and in no other time did all the women wear tight form fitting pants and makeup as the norm. It is a sign along with many others he mentions but if you wanna take a few things out of context and base your opinions on that instead of being a diligent and intelligent person who can use his mind, spirit and soul to determine a true prophet from false one go ahead because even Branham would agree you don’t need him to get to heaven because in the bible it say “i am the way, the truth and the life, only through the name of jesus christ will you enter into heaven”. thank you brothers and sisters for your consideration on this matter and i know he was only a man but you shouldn’t discredit his works like you do because it is an ugly thing your doing. God bless you all… regardless.
Evan,
Branham said, “I walked with Moses through that dry ground, across that Red Sea.”
How can that quote be taken out of context? Does the Word of God says Moses walked with Branham? NO.
Also claiming to have the spirit of “Elijah” is about the most craziest thing I heard, and I’ve heard quite a few.
Well ya that is takin’ it out of context because i think he was talking about a vision more than actually walking with moses like how your making it sound. what’s so crazy about having the spirit of Elijah?.. you know he is not an infallible man, sometimes he gives predictions that don’t come true and he makes mistakes but he was a very fine man. He healed many and brought many more to the word so i don’t really understand your reasoning behind besmirch his name. I think intellectually you are in the wrong and spiritually have unfounded hate for someone has done no wrong to you. It’s not your place to judge others faith. You should follow a doctrine of love rather than just bearing false witness and hating the ones who walk in the spirit of Jesus Christ. I guess it’s not your fault if you never had a man in your life that was saved already for you to follow and you apparently can’t decipher the word on your own, all you can do is lie to try to deceive your fellow man. If you need to hate and expose false profits their are many out there to study, leave this one alone it only makes you look foolish and if you are a christian you should know not to take things out of context you have to take things in their entirety and with every piece of knowledge you need ten times more grace to understand it because our human minds are very limited. God bless.
Evan,
Elijah was not God. Nor was he Jesus Christ, or the Holy Spirit. So one who claims to have felt the spirit of Elijah” is lying. Because Elijah was human like you and I.
The only Spirit from Jesus mentioned in the Bible is the Holy Spirit.
Matthew 28:19 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
Your comment: you know he is not an infallible man, sometimes he gives predictions that don’t come true and he makes mistakes but he was a very fine man.
My comment: Deuteronomy 18:20-22 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the Lord has not spoken?’— when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.
Gloria, i see that your zeal lacks adequate knowledge. God is a spirit with three dispensational offices, not three person united as one God. I don’t need to speak for william branham, true believers, NOT stereotype believers, knows that he is a true servant of God. If u nid BALANCED scriptures, NOT PARTISAN scriptures, then request for it.
Chika,
You can question my zeal for Christ if you like. That is your option. But I do not care what man thinks of me. It is Christ who can only see my heart.
You can follow a man like Branham, who claims to have walked with Moses, and who claims to be Elijah. That again is your choice.
But when you let a false prophet lead you to lies, and you do not question the fact that what he teaches you is not in the Word of God, then you endanger yourself.
Mark 7:6-9 And he said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men.” And he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition!
He was a prophet… Don’t listen to this garbage!
He was a FALSE PROPHET, who chose to twist the Word of God for his own selfish lies.
Matthew 24:24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
Hi Gloria,
Every once in a while I come across a website or forum like yours that’ll condemn William Branham as a false prophet and so on…….
You know that’s one of the wonderful things about our country, is our freedom of speech. You have a right to say what you want, just the same as anybody else does. It’s certainly a tremendous privilege.
I assume you’re a Christian who’s born again, full of the Holy Ghost, and that you’re expecting to go to Heaven some day. I believe the same thing for myself, which means that you and I should meet over there on that golden shore, never to have pain nor heartache again, but rather, clothed in Christ’s glorious likeness in life eternal.
No doubt you’re convinced that by calling William Branham a false prophet you’re doing God a great service, that The Holy Spirit has inspired you to tell people (via the Internet) that William Branham was wrong…..?
Now of course I could take a lot of time and methodically go thru each and every one of your quotes to try and show you that William Branham was not wrong at all. On the contrary he knew exactly what he was saying, as well, he was given something that no other man in our generation perfectly had, that being of course “Thus Saith The Lord”. Even a casual study of his ministry would show that not once out of the thousands of times was he ever wrong in “Thus Saith The Lord”.
So instead of me defending Bro Branham, let me ask you some questions.
Lets start with this one.
If you lived back in the days of Jesus of Nazareth, how would you have known that he was the promised Messiah to come?
Hi Brad,
I did not see this until now, which is why I have not responded.
Your comment: If you lived back in the days of Jesus of Nazareth, how would you have known that he was the promised Messiah to come?
My comment: That is a hard question, because I obviously did not live in those days. But i will try and answer it anyway. As Jesus walked preaching God’s word, I would like to think I would have followed him. I would like to think that as I prayed to God, He would have shown me discernment. As Jesus walked healing the sick, casting out demons, and many other things, if I were there and watched him, and prayed, then I would like to think that I would have known then just as I know now, that he is the Messiah. A hard question to answer once again, but as in everything, we must pray to Christ so he can answer us.
Answer these please:
1) The Bible says that in the last days, there will be many false prophets. Branham claims to have walked with Moses. Yet, if he walked with Moses, the bible would have mentioned Branham. Do you believe Branham actually walked with Moses?
2) Branham gave glory to an angel, and that is never to be done. For Jesus Christ deserves all glory and praise forever. Do you agree?
Your comment: No doubt you’re convinced that by calling William Branham a false prophet you’re doing God a great service, that The Holy Spirit has inspired you to tell people (via the Internet) that William Branham was wrong…..?
My comment: When I wrote this article, it was never with an “intention” of doing God a great service. If I thought that way, that would make me a “proud” person–which is wrong. When I wrote this, it was the intention of telling you and others, that Branham leads you down a wrong path. That Branham took the word of God and twisted it.
Your comment: Now of course I could take a lot of time and methodically go thru each and every one of your quotes to try and show you that William Branham was not wrong at all.
My comment: I invite you to try and prove the Word of God wrong, because for each quote I wrote regarding Branham, I supplied Christ Word.
no reply………anyone………..maybe this website is out of business.
Hi Gloria,
Nice to hear back from you.
Hope you’re doing well.
Okay, let’s have a closer look at your response. I’d like to break it down a little bit if that’s okay.
You said the following;
“as Jesus walked preaching God’s word, I would like to think I would have followed him. I would like to think that as I prayed to God, He would have shown me discernment”.
Almost everything (if not everything) Jesus preached was contrary to the traditional teachings of his day; he beat the daylights out of the money changers at the temple, (which actually seemed like a worthy cause if you went back and did a historical study on it), he argued with the entire religious establishment whose ancestry was absolutely spotless from generation to generation, he called them names, he said they were of their father the devil,
He said “What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before”?
“Heh wait a minute, I know where he was born, I saw his cradle, I knew him as a boy growing up, I know his parents, I know where they lived”……
He said “”Take and eat; this is my body.””drink this cup it is my blood”.
” heh this guy wants us to be vampires!!! ”
In other words, everything Jesus preached was completely radical to the time honored religious establishment of his day!
As a matter of fact, all the prophets down thru the ages were exactly the same way. And the religous people of their days called them false prophets, and killed and stoned them time after time. You go and study your bible and show me otherwise…..
I could spend more time on this but it’d take too long.
Let’s move on.
You said;
b “As Jesus walked healing the sick, casting out demons, and many other things, if I were there and watched him, and prayed, then I would like to think that I would have known then just as I know now, that he is the Messiah”.
So I think what you’re saying is that because Jesus performed miracles that would’ve been a strong indicator to you that he was Messiah. This is Deuteronomy 18:15-18. But don’t forget verses 20-22 (read them). Thoses verses clearly state that if a prophet “speaketh IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, this is the thing the Lord hath not spoken”.
and yet you say that Bro Branham was wrong in “THUS SAITH THE LORD”???
PROVE IT!!!!
Find me ONE instance where he was ever wrong in that. I want names, adresses, and phone numbers.
Give me ONE written statement signed by somebody who can prove otherwise. Don’t bother. You’ll be wasting your time.
You went on to say;
“Answer these please:
1) The Bible says that in the last days, there will be many false prophets”.
You’re quoting Mathew 24:24, which if you go on to continue reading it says in verse 27-28 “For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be”. Question: What is “Son of Man”? , PROPHET! Read Ezekiel if you don’t believe me.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. Do you know what this verse means?
Let’s keep moving…..
You said “Branham claims to have walked with Moses. Yet, if he walked with Moses, the bible would have mentioned Branham. Do you believe Branham actually walked with Moses”?
If you went back to read the quote in it’s entirety you’d see he explained it perfectly in that each and everyone of us are “IDENTIFIED” with all the great men and moments of the Bible. Why Gloria why? Because we’re in Christ Jesus that’s why! He was talking of identification!!!
You did NOT quote Bro Branham correctly.
Let me ask you a question. where were you when the morning stars sang together and the sons of God shouted for joy” Huh Huh? Well if you’re a born again believer you were right there!You better have been, otherwise you’re not in Christ Jesus.
And who gave you the authority to say that Bro Branham’s name should’ve been mentioned in the Bible?
Show me where Jesus’s name was mentioned in the Old Testament before he was born, and yet I can show you were he said “before Abraham was, I am”.
And just because Bro Branham’s earthly name is not in the Bible doesn’t mean there’s no scripture for a genuine endtime prophet.
Malachi 4:5 “behold, I send you Elijah the prophet before the great and terrible day of the Lord.
Luke 17:30, John 14:12, oh my goodness there’s all sorts of scriptures talking about what’s gonna happen at the endtime and what God’s gonna do and how and whom he’s gonna use to do it.
Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
I’m not mad nor am I angry. But when you start calling Bro Branham a false prophet whom the Lord God Almighty so utterly vincicated beyond description, then I feel I have a right to reply.
We’ve just begun here, as I’ve not addressed most of your discussions you’ve already had with other people.
Regards,
Brad
P.S. Gloria, I hope you don’t mind me asking, but does your pastor know that you have this website, and if so, does he support what you’re doing here?
Brad,
Discernment also known as praying to Christ and reading his word is a good thing when dealing with preachers and prophets.
Your comment: Almost everything (if not everything) Jesus preached was contrary to the traditional teachings of his day; he beat the daylights out of the money changers at the temple, (which actually seemed like a worthy cause if you went back and did a historical study on it), he argued with the entire religious establishment whose ancestry was absolutely spotless from generation to generation, he called them names, he said they were of their father the devil,
My comment: Jesus said you are of your father the devil, because as they stood before him, they were still plotting a way to kill him. Jesus saw into there heart. And yes, he called some hyprocrites, and so forth, because Jesus knew there sins.
Your comment: So I think what you’re saying is that because Jesus performed miracles that would’ve been a strong indicator to you that he was Messiah.
My comment: And that is not the only thing I said. I also said I would have prayed to God. Let me tell you a quick story. A man approached me once and said he could read my future. I told him no thanks, and he still proceeded to hold my hand, and tell me something of my past. I told him the devil is a liar, and you know why? Because he never gave Glory to Jesus. Never once mentioned God. Do you see where I would have not agreed with Branham and anyone who chooses to praise angels, mary, instead of Christ?
John 4:23 But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him.
Worshipping Christ and only him is the only way.
Your comment: Thoses verses clearly state that if a prophet “speaketh IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, this is the thing the Lord hath not spoken”. and yet you say that Bro Branham was wrong in “THUS SAITH THE LORD”??? PROVE IT!!!! Find me ONE instance where he was ever wrong in that. I want names, adresses, and phone numbers. Give me ONE written statement signed by somebody who can prove otherwise. Don’t bother. You’ll be wasting your time.
My comment: Okay I’ll prove it with another quote. Branham said, “I saw seven angels in the form of a pyramid that swept down, picked me up and was brought east to open the seven seals of God”
THE WORD OF GOD SAYS: No man in heaven or earth was able to open the book except the lamb that was slain and redeemed us to God by his blood” (Rev. 5:1-10) I can assume Jesus name is enough as a written statement.
You said: And who gave you the authority to say that Bro Branham’s name should’ve been mentioned in the Bible?
My Comment: When a sinner who needs Christ, takes the Word of God, twisting it and claims he has walked with Moses and that he is Elijah, well I have a problem with that. For if you preach what is not in God’s word, you are preaching wrong. It is the truth.
Galatians 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
Your comment: P.S. Gloria, I hope you don’t mind me asking, but does your pastor know that you have this website, and if so, does he support what you’re doing here?
My comment: Actually yes my Pastor does know I write on this website, and I have shown him previous postings on this website. My husband, and sister also know. And I’m not the owner of the website. It is Ivar who Christ called to expose the truth, Ivar signed me up as an editor two years ago.
Gloria,
There’s too many subjects you throwing at me on one message, and it’s taking me too long to reply to each and every one of them.
Let’s narrow the field down a bit ok.
I’ll get back to you as soon as I can, gotta go to work.
Brad
P.S. I find it highly unusual that a Pastor would support such a website as this. Does your church have a website as well?
Brad,
Why would you find it “highly unusal?” That is strange to me that you think this way.
I am a Christian. My pastor is a christian. My parents are as well. The goal of this website (News that Matters) has always been first spreading the Word of God and Salvation which is Jesus Christ. One of the other goals on this website has been exposing fake and falsehood like: catholics, muslims, and so forth. False prophets are another subject on this site.
I attend a small church. My parents were married there, so this church has been around for more than 40 years, but more importantly this church has always spread the message that only Jesus Christ can save you. No, they do not have a website, nor had they ever had one.
Gloria
FYI: I do agree that the messages are a tad long. So if you’d like to continue this, one or two questions/responses at a time.
Gloria,
I’d like to go back and talk about ONE thing which you & I have already discussed, and that is where you were critical of Bro Branham when he said he “walked with Moses”.
Now I showed you clearly that he was referring to identification and I took a great deal of time to make you understand what he was referring to. And not only that but I also showed you how it applies to you as a professing believer.
In turn your reply was exactly as before whereby you went right back and criticized him for the exact same statement.
Now I have his quotes in my possession so I know exactly what I’m talking about here.
So I want you to show me by using Bro Branham’s own words where he said that he was referring to something else aside from being “IDENTIFIED” with Moses or being “identified” with great men of the Bible.
Now you’ve been very critical of other people not answering your questions directly, which is just what you’ve done to me, so I’m gonna hold your feet to the fire on this misquote of yours.
Now you have access to the internet, therefore you have access to the messages of Bro Branham just as much as anyone else does so I want you to provide me the quotes to prove your point.
Brad
Brad,
I get that the Word of God has proved you wrong, so you want to back to the topic of Moses, which we have already discussed.
But I’ll respond to you again.
Another William Branham Quote “Same thing by being a true Christian. You have to be identified with it. I preached with Moses and war-with Noah and warned the people of the oncoming judgment, to be a real Christian. I was with Moses at the burning bush; I saw the Pillar of Fire; I saw His glory. I was with Moses up there in the wilderness. To be a Christian, I have to be identified with everything God was, to be a Christian. I seen His glory; I heard His voice. Don’t try to explain it away from me now, ’cause I was there. I know what I’m talking about. I seen what happened. Yes, sir!”
My comment: To be a Christian, you have to accept Christ as our Savior, and repent from your sins. That is how you become a beliver in HIM. NO WHERE in the Word of God does it say you have to “identify” with God Now you say Branham “identified” with it. Being that if you “identify” with God, then you were there also. Am I correct? This is what you are saying?
If it is, you are wrong, and Branham was and still is considered by some a false prophet. But let’s go into this identification thing more. I have been in the presence of Christ (all Glory goes to Him), I have seen believers in their presence. NO ONE, NO ONE, has ever said the walked with Moses, NO ONE INCLUDING MYSELF has ever said that they preached with Moses, and warred with Noah. To be close to Christ is the most important relationship, but to say you were there, and I believe that is what Branham was actually saying is WRONG. And there is no bible verse that supports this identification.
Check ths Bible verse out: Col.2:18 “Let no one cheat you out of your reward, taking delight in FALSE humility, and the worship, intruding in those things which he has seen, vainly puffed up by his carnal mind.”
That Bible verse can explain how Branham puffed himself up, and entrapped you and others into believing his lying ways.
Now I will move on to another quote you evaded previously:
“I saw seven angels in the form of a pyramid that swept down, picked me up and was brought east to open the seven seals of God”
THE WORD OF GOD SAYS: No man in heaven or earth was able to open the book except the lamb that was slain and redeemed us to God by his blood” (Rev. 5:1-10)
Do you agree with the Word? No man was found worthy to open the book. But in Branham’s delusional sinning mind, I guess he found himself worthy? It’s blasphemy.
Who was responsible for the mass healings in Branhams ministry? Satan or God?
2 Thessalonians 2:9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders,
Matthew 24:24 24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
Hi Gloria,
Let’s try and tighten up on this conversation as I suggested before, as I think it’d make it easier for both of us to respond to each other without getting too sidetracked onto other issues or quotes..
As well I did not evade the other quote as you’re suggesting. I’m well aware of it, and we’ll get to it later. I’m also well aware of all your previous posted conversations with other people. We can discuss those things later on if you want.
I’d like to talk about identification in the Bible.
You said this “NO WHERE in the Word of God does it say you have to “identify” with God”…………Oh really???….Come on Gloria you know better than that.
ACTS 17:28
‘For in him we live and move and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.’
….we are his what???….his offspring!!!……if that’s not identification I’ll eat my shirt.
You said this “Now you say Branham “identified” with it. Being that if you “identify” with God, then you were there also. Am I correct? This is what you are saying?”
No that is not correct, nor is that what I’m saying.
Just because a person can “relate to”, or “identify with” someone or something doesn’t mean they were there also. That wouldn’t even make reasonable sense.
If you believe that Bro Branham was saying he was actually there with Moses and other characters of the Bible, that is your opinion and you’re entitled to it, but you’re presuming, which means you’re venturing without authority.
I suggest you do a study on the words “identify” and/or “identification” because I don’t think you’re grasping their true meaning with relationship to God’s Word.
The entire Bible is about identification.
Look forward to hearing from you,
Brad
P.S. You don’t have to bang off a reply to me instantaneously. Think about these things a little bit, ponder them, ask your Pastor about our identification in the Bible and if it’s true or not, ask your friends…..I dunno, just my two cents worth 🙂
Bye for now.
Brad,
My comment: Acts 17:28 Yes we are his offspring. He is the source of our existence. He is my father, I am his daughter. But again it boils down to this, I will not be going around saying I walked with Moses, I battled with Noah. It is simply wrong and not true, because simply accepting Christ and repenting from your sins, does not give you the right to make wrong statements on God’s Word. Branham twisted it to suit his own selfish needs, but I suspect we could keep going around in circles, and we will still not accept each other’s views.
You said: If you believe that Bro Branham was saying he was actually there with Moses and other characters of the Bible, that is your opinion and you’re entitled to it, but you’re presuming, which means you’re venturing without authority.
My comment :It is not an opinion. It is a fact. He distorted the Word of God. And there are so many other subjects that he spoke of, it would take many converstations with you to show you how wrong Branham was.
He lied about many things such as: “Jesus did not say no man could know the year, month or week in which his coming would be completed. I sincerely believe and maintain as a private student of the Word along with divine inspiration that 1977 ought to terminate the world systems and usher in the millennium.”
Obviously, that did not happen.
This verse is so true: Deut. 13:1-3 “If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder comes true, concerning which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us go after other gods (whom you have not known) and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for the Lord your God is testing you to find out if you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
Now I will give it one final try:
Branham said: “I saw seven angels in the form of a pyramid that swept down, picked me up and was brought east to open the seven seals of God”
THE WORD OF GOD SAYS: No man in heaven or earth was able to open the book except the lamb that was slain and redeemed us to God by his blood” (Rev. 5:1-10)
Do you agree with the Word? No man was found worthy to open the book. But in Branham’s delusional sinning mind, I guess he found himself worthy? It’s blasphemy.
Gloria,
He’s talking of identification, identification, identification. How many times are you going to evade this point.
You know, it’d be a whole lot better if you could get your Pastor or Ivar to come onto here and talk this point with me, as I don’t want to move on to the other misquotes of yours until this one is settled.
Brad
P.S. You said “Jesus did not say no man could know the year, month or week in which his coming would be completed”.
……uh Gloria, you really need to calm down, and take your time editing your messages, as your grammar is wrong, and you also misquoted this scripture.
Brad,
You sound a bit condescending. I did not know I needed to be a perfect writing master, when I write about Christ.
I have explained to you many times about identification and Branham’s choice of words. You just refused to grasp it. That is fine. I can tell you are a believer of Branham. We will all answer to God one day, each and every one of us.
Moving on, I do not need Ivar or my Pastor to speak for me. And for your information, I have never posted an article here that Ivar did not agree with, and anyone is free to jump into any discussion.
Also I did not say this: “Jesus did not say no man could know the year, month or week in which his coming would be completed”. It was Branham who said it, and I quote word for word. I suppose he too needed to calm down and take time editing?
And my conversation with you draws to an end. Since, you refuse to answer my question, and are avoiding it. It really shows that you believe Branham was wrong, but do not care to admit it.
God Bless.
Shalom
Branham was a false I don’t know why his followers believe that he was Elijah its like believing doctrine of Meridith who was claim to be one of two witness of revelation
It boggles my mind Tiva. There’s so much proof that Branham led people astray by his statements alone. It’s an easy comparison when you compare Branham’s words to the Word of God. My sincere hope is that whatever I have posted here, that it causes people to think, “Okay, I need to test the spirits” just like our Lord asked us to do.
Serves me right for reading your reply at 6:00 am in the morning. I thought you were quoting scripture. I apologize.
Of course Bro Branham was correct that it didn’t say the week,month, or year, but that’s another subject altogether.
If I sounded condescending, again, I
apologize as I didn’t mean it
Just remember you’re the one that said “No where in the Word does it say you have to “Identify” with God”.
Well I do! I’m totally identified with God, I’m identified with his Word, I’m identified with his Christ, his people.
I’m identified with Moses at the burning bush, I’m identified with Daniel in the lions den, I’m identified with Jesus at Calvary. …”I am crucified with Christ nevertheless I live, yet not I but Christ liveth in me”…yes sir, the scripture says I was there.
I’m identified with vindication. I’m identified with “Thus Saith The Lord”.
I’m identified with Malachi 4 Elijah the Prophet to the Gentiles William Branham…..Now the Rapture.
Then afterwards God turns his attention back to Israel sending them his two witnesses Moses and Elijah.
All the best to you.
Bye bye.
Brad,
What r u doin wastin yer time with a bobed haired Jezebel that God don’t even her prayers.
Trinitarian dogma followers. Cult website.
big Donate box though hahahahahahaha
they’re all the same.
Jimgif,
If you feel like it’s a waste of time to be here, then why have you commented?
Speaking about the Word of God is never a waste of time.
Gloria
I’m always cautious about people who claim to be God’s end time prophet or a super saint with special revelations and teachings. There have been others like William Branham, that have controversy surrounding them, R. G. Stair, Tony Alamo, Hawkins brothers, etc. or groups that claim to be the true believers.
The Lord told us not to let any man deceive us. We need to be looking out for each other and warning each other about deceivers or wolves in sheep’s clothing or maybe it’s just about some teaching and doctrine they have that may be “out of line” or may be leaven.
Rev 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
What did they do?
“…and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars..”
We just need to be doing it in the Spirit, showing mercy and praying. We are all looking through a glass darkly now. Soon we will know as we are known.
Are u kiddin me. you sippin too much holy waterI
suppose u got a prophet with thus Saith The Lord huh? Not likely. none of you lame ducks ever do but my oh my u sure know how to spot a false one. yea right.
Tell me about your stupid doctrines. you’re all off shoots of Catholicism with your pagan hell bound trinity doctrine or your just as bad oneness garbage.
There ain’t one person I’ve read here that has a clue about mathew 24:24 aside from carnal interpretations.
Some of you idiots even believe Satan can heal.
Merciful God you must all be spiritually drugged.
Hello Jimgif,
You wrote,
“There ain’t one person I’ve read here that has a clue about mathew 24:24 aside from carnal interpretations.”
So, would you tell the people here the spiritual interpretation. Thanks.
Brad you sound like you know your stuff. thats good.
dave1543 says:
February 18, 2013 at 1:02 am
Hello Jimgif,
You wrote,
“There ain’t one person I’ve read here that has a clue about mathew 24:24 aside from carnal interpretations.”
So, would you tell the people here the spiritual interpretation. Thanks.
u want me to tell u the spiritual interpretation to scripture. oh my Lord.
if u can’t believe the most vindicated prophetic messenger of all time William Branham why would u believe me duh
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hey brad r u a student of the late reverend Lee Vayle who grammarized the seven church age book for William Branham. yer understanding seems v good.
Hello Jimgif,
I just asked you a question. Can’t you answer it?
Yes I am one his students.
Jimgif,
You said: u want me to tell u the spiritual interpretation to scripture. oh my Lord.
if u can’t believe the most vindicated prophetic messenger of all time William Branham why would u believe me duh
My comment: But we assume you have the spiritual meaning since you appear to be so wise, in telling people they have it wrong. Please enlighten us.
Also I will ask you the same question I asked Brad, who avoided answering it.
Branham said and I QUOTE: “I saw seven angels in the form of a pyramid that swept down, picked me up and was brought east to open the seven seals of God”
THE WORD OF GOD SAYS: No man in heaven or earth was able to open the book except the lamb that was slain and redeemed us to God by his blood” (Rev. 5:1-10)
Do you agree with the Word? Or do you agree with Branham?
Brad
Got a question for ya.
Was the compound names of Jehovah applied to Jesus, yes or no?
Jim
Jim,
I really don’t think this is the appropriate place to start discussing deeper doctrinal issues. Send me an email if u want and we can talk about it privately, but to answer your question VERY briefly, yes of course. All seven compound names of Jehovah apply to Jesus.
Hello Jimgif,
You wrote.
“math 7:6”
That doesn’t apply here when haven’t answered the question and I haven’t rejected an answer.
Oh I am sooooo sorry
I gave u the wrong scripture
Here try this one
John 8:43
there that’s better
Jimgif,
Let’s first look at Matthew 24:24
For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect–if that were possible.
Now the Bible gives us various verses on false prophets. Matthew 7:15, 1 John 4:1-6 are among some of the verses.
What is a false prophet? Those who take the Word of God, and lie about it, twisting it to suit their own selfish need. Those who preach what is not in the Word of God.
It’s point blank the truth. Not difficult to understand at all.
Was William Branham a false prophet? Let’s see some comparisons to what he said and what Jesus tells us.
Branham said and I QUOTE: “I saw seven angels in the form of a pyramid that swept down, picked me up and was brought east to open the seven seals of God”
THE WORD OF GOD SAYS: No man in heaven or earth was able to open the book except the lamb that was slain and redeemed us to God by his blood” (Rev. 5:1-10)
JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY ONE WORTHY TO OPEN THE BOOK.
Branham said and I QUOTE: “That this age will, end around 1977. …, I base this prediction on seven major continuous visions that came to me one Sunday morning in June, 1933. The Lord Jesus spoke to me and said that the coming of the Lord was drawing nigh, but that before He came, seven major events would transpire.
Obviously this did not come to pass. THE WORD OF GOD SAYS: Jeremiah 14:14 Then the LORD said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds.
Branham said and I QUOTE: “ He never called Himself the Son of God. He referred to Himself, the-‘Son of man, because He had to come according to the Scripture.”
THE WORD OF GOD SAYS: Hebrews 1:8,9 But to the Son He (God) says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
Luke 1:35 And the angel answered her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy—the Son of God.
Now the Bible proves William Branham a false prophet, a liar, a deceiver, and that is when Jimgif, you can now use John 8:43 to apply to Branham.
God Bless.
Was William Branham a false prophet? Let’s see some comparisons to what he said and what Jesus tells us.
Branham said and I QUOTE: “I saw seven angels in the form of a pyramid that swept down, picked me up and was brought east to open the seven seals of God”
bullcrap Blondie get yer quotes straight.Just like all your above garbage u always misquote or only partially quote.
why don’t u get back into the kitchen where u belong.
Jimgif,
Do not bother commenting further on this site. You will be spammed. Your comments definitely show your lack of respect, and where you stand. Instead of debating by showing me where I am wrong in the Word of God, you insult.
That is fine. We will all stand before Christ soon. May God bless you.
Gloria
Branham said and I QUOTE: “That this age will, end around 1977. …, I base this prediction on seven major continuous visions that came to me one Sunday morning in June, 1933. The Lord Jesus spoke to me and said that the coming of the Lord was drawing nigh, but that before He came, seven major events would transpire.
Obviously this did not come to pass. THE WORD OF GOD SAYS: Jeremiah 14:14 Then the LORD said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds.
In 1977 they thought sure that was it. Bro. Branham didn’t say it. And there’s nothing in the Church Age book says that; they entirely misunderstood what was written. In that book the very words used are: according to William Branham’s own calculation and divine revelation, it should be by 1977. But that doesn’t mean that it would be.
People got shook, because they got all frenzied about Bro. Branham in 1977 when he categorically said in the Church Age book. [It] categorically says, “It is merely talk, it is not true prophecy.” The only divine revelation was the seven visions themselves, of which five had come to pass, and at the rate that they were coming to pass, it could be 1977. Later on he changed it. Something would have to happen awful fast to make it 1977, because the signs weren’t in. And that gave me my clue. Watch for the signs. And if you don’t see the signs–shut up.
1977 came by, so people say “Bro. Branham was a false prophet.” Bro. Branham did not prophesy; he predicted. It was his own thinking. And in one place he said, “Hey, I said, 1977, then I sure got a lot of things got to come to pass in a hurry,” because he said, “it looks like it won’t make it then.” And under the Seven Seals he said, “It could be one: twenty-five years, fifty years, a hundred, maybe yet tomorrow.” But nobody wants to take what he really said.
Now I want to ask you this. Bro. Branham says, “I am not prophesying; I am predicting.” So then, predicting is not “THUS SAITH THE LORD;” is that right? So therefore, it is not a divine revelation that it would be in 1977. So, I ask you a question! What was the divine revelation that he used? You don’t know, do you? The divine revelation are the six visions that came to pass, because they were divinely revealed, and the last one was in the making. Bro. Branham threw them a curve, because that book is “THUS SAITH THE LORD.”
You’re out of your league kiddo. That’s why Paul told you stupid women to shut-up and stay out of the pulpits, so you have to have your own pulpit right here on your stupid Satan inspired website.
Branham said and I QUOTE: “ He never called Himself the Son of God. He referred to Himself, the-’Son of man, because He had to come according to the Scripture.”
THE WORD OF GOD SAYS: Hebrews 1:8,9 But to the Son He (God) says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
Luke 1:35 And the angel answered her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy—the Son of God.
Now the Bible proves William Branham a false prophet, a liar, a deceiver, and that is when Jimgif, you can now use John 8:43 to apply to Branham.
“He was a Man to fulfill scripture.” What was the fulfilling of scripture? Prophet. Judge. Lamb. See? They had to be fulfilled and they were fulfilled. Moses said, “The Lord your God shall raise up a prophet like unto me.” So he had to come as a Prophet. He never did say, “I am the Son of God.” Over in verse ten… John 10:36 it is said that. But it’s because of the defense. It was not Jesus saying, “I am the Son of God.” But he made a defense. And the defense was:
[John 10]
(36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
If the prophets were sons, they were Sons of God. God spake in them. They were son of man, right down the line. God spoke, what’s wrong with him saying it? Because the Word came to them, the Word came to him.
All right,
[124] “I am the Son of God.” He said, “I am the Son of man. Do you believe the Son of man?” Cause that’s what He had to testify of, because that’s what He was. That’s right, see. Now He’s come in another son’s Name, Son of God, the unseen, the Spirit. And when He comes again, He’s Son of David to sit upon His throne.
Now, when Jesus came to earth, He came in the name of three Sons: Son of man (which is prophet), Son of God, and Son of David. Now, He lived here on earth; He never did say He was the Son of God. Only in the fact of the matter that he was the Son of God and the respect of having come. He said, “I am the Son of man. Jehovah Himself called Ezekiel in the prophets “son of man,” because He had to come and fulfill the Scripture as a prophet. And Moses said, “The Lord your God shall raise up a Prophet like unto Me.” That’s the reason He could not be the Son of God there because He was a Son of man. He, the Word, came to the prophets, and He was the Word in Its Fullness. And remember Bro. Branham quotes where Jesus came to John, and the Word always comes to the prophets. And so he was that Word that was to come to the prophet. The Word came to the prophets and He was the Word in Its Fullness: Son of man, the major Prophet, not the major Prophet, but the God Prophet. Bro. Branham corrects himself. The Fullness of the Godhead bodily was in Him; therefore, He was the Son of man. Just like the rest of the prophets, but he was ‘that’ prophet, spoken of, that if you don’t listen to him according to John 3 you are condemned.
You must have awfully short hair girl, cause i find the shorter a dames hair is the more they yap about things they know nothing of. Yeah, bet u wear shorts in the summer too when it’s hot huh, maybe have a little drink now and then it don’t condemn you right.
Go to the movies too watch television your fav shows, listen to all sorts of ungodly music for all I know.
Listen kid, do yourself and everybody else here a favour and shut yer yap and get a real job, like looking after your house and God have mercy your husband if u happen to own one poor soul.
Jim,
Doctrinally you’re sound but u r swingin the pendulum a bit too far by lowering yourself to her level of name calling.
If she wants to slam God’s prophet that’s their fate. You know as well as I do their souls are doomed, there’s no biblical chance of redemption for them at all, as they’ve blasphemed the Holy Ghost.
They’re utterly void of the Spirit of Christ no matter what they say or feel. Dead while they’re alive, what a horrible situation to turn down God’s vindicated prophet.
So basically what I’m saying here, is that you’re wasting your breath. It wouldn’t matter if Almighty God raised up Abraham and sent him to these people and told them that Bro Branham was his end-time prophet to the Gentiles, they STILL WOULDN”T BELIEVE IT. Why? Because they’re unbelievers, because it’s impossible for them to believe, completely and utterly impossible.
They carry within themselves another seed, not the seed gene of God. All that’s left for them is the burnin then White Throne.
Aren’t you glad Brother that one glorious day we’ll stand upon the breath of the earth with God’s redeemd of all ages clothed in his glorious rightousness. My what a time that’ll be, and just think, Bro Branham will be right there with all the saints and prophets of old. No wonder God allowed his picture to be taken with him in Houston.
Back off a bit as all they’re gonna do is rant rant rant.
It’s over……..
Brad,
My level of name calling? Where is it that I’ve insulted anyone? Where is it that I’ve insulted the Holy Spirit? All this because I have soundly proved the Word of God as the truth.
And if you want to give advice to Jim, tell him to repent from his sins. Tell him to stop insulting women, and tell him it’s because Jesus says, “Every knee shall bow and confess to God.”
My level of name calling? Where is it that I’ve insulted anyone?
……gee Gloria I dunno.
Brad,
Because your a blind believer of Branham, of course you will think I have insulted him.
And yet you answer that and not the one question I repeatedly posed to you. In your opinion, is Branham worthy to open the Book?
Please do not evade.
Well Gloria,
It’s kinda like Jim said. If you would’ve taken the time and gone back and read the quote by Bro Branham in it’s full context you would’ve seen that he never said a thing about him opening the seals. He never opened those seals and he stated as much.
Bro Branham sermon after sermon always said the Lamb was worthy to take the book and open it, but people like you don’t care about all his quotes like that. Your whole focus is to try and isolate one little bitty tiny statement and make it say something it’s not saying. It’s called slander.
But heh, if that’s what you enjoy doing, then by all means go ahead, because you sure aren’t hurting my feelings I can guarantee you that.
The Breach 1963
“And he saw One setting upon the throne with this Book in His hand, in His right hand. Think of it. Now, and then in this Book was the title deed to redemption. And it was sealed with Seven Seals. And then a Angel came forth, a strong Angel proclaiming with a loud voice, “Who was worthy to open the Book, to take the Book; Who was able to open the Seals; Who was able to open this Book?” See? The Angel asked it; John saw it, and he said, “Now, Who’s worthy? Let Him…” Oh, my, maybe I’m just feeling this this a way. “But, let Him,” said the Angel, “let Him…” Here is the Book of Redemption. Here is the plan of redemption. Here is the only way you’ll ever be redeemed, for here is the title deed to redemption of the whole heavens and earth. “Let Him come forward, if He will.” Oh, my. “Now speak or forever hold his peace. Let Him come forward and claim this Book. Who’s worthy to do it?” And John said there was no man in heaven found worthy; no man on earth found worthy; no man beneath the earth that ever lived and died was found worthy; no man was found worthy.
85 The Angel’s call was a call for the Kinsman Redeemer to appear. God said, “I have a law, a Kinsman Redeemer can–can be a substitute.” Where is that Kinsman Redeemer? Who’s able to take it?And it come from Adam all the way down through all the apostles, and prophets, and everything else, and nobody was found. Now, what about that? Nobody in heaven, nobody on earth, nobody that ever lived… Elijah was standing there. Moses was standing there. All the apostles were standing there of–of all the ones that had died, all the holy men, Job, the sages. Everyone was standing there, and nobody was worthy even to look at the Book, let alone take It and break the Seals.
Now, where’s the pope and all these come in at? Where’s your bishops? Where’s our worthiness? We’re nothing. That’s right.
86 He asked for the Kinsman Redeemer to step forward, if He could. But John said no man was worthy, not that there wasn’t worthy people there. Now, like an Angel, like for instance we’d say Gabriel or Michael, but remember, it had to be a kinsman. Remember, John said here, “And no m-a-n,” not Angel, not Seraphim; they hadn’t sinned, but they were in a different category. They’d never fallen. But this had to be a kinsman redeemer. No man, ’cause there was none of them redeemed. No man was worthy to look at it. Oh, no, my, my.
So it took a human kinsman; and he asked for it, and he wasn’t found nowhere. There’s nobody. No bishop, no archbishop, no priest, no hierarchy; no nothing was even a–that didn’t even have the holiness enough to even look at the Book. Whew, my, my. That’s pretty strong, but that’s what the Bible said friend, I’m just quoting what John said.
88 The Bible said that John wept, not as some people has taught it. I was hearing a man teach this one time; said, “John wept because that he found himself not worthy.” Oh, any man under the Holy Spirit would know different from that (See?), under the inspiration of God would know different from that.
89 But John wept. Here’s what I think he wept for: because if no one was worthy and could open this Book of Redemption, the whole creation was lost. Here is the Book; here is the title deed; and It will be offered to the Kinsman Redeemer that can meet the qualifications. That’s God’s own law, and He can’t defile His law–can’t defy His Law, rather. See, God required a kinsman redeemer who was worthy, who was able to do it, who had the substance to do it. And the Angel said, “Now let that Kinsman Redeemer step forward.”And John looked, and he looked all over the earth; he looked beneath the earth, and there was nobody. Their creation and the–everything was lost. Of course, John wept; everything was lost.
His crying didn’t last but just a minute though. Then there stood one of the elders said, “Don’t weep, John.” Oh, my. His crying didn’t last but just a minute.
John thought, “Oh, my, where is the man? There stands the prophets; they was born like I was. There stands the sages; there stands… Oh, ain’t there nobody here?”
90 “I want a man that’s able to do it. I want a man that can redeem,” and he wasn’t found. So John broke out; oh, everything was lost, and he wept bitterly. And he–he–he was sad, ’cause everything, the whole creation, everything was gone if they couldn’t find somebody. Glory to God. If they couldn’t find somebody that could meet that requirement, they–every human being, the whole world and creation was gone. All, everything had fallen. The–the–the rights of redemption, the rights of–of Eternal Life, a–the Light, or–all these rights had been forfeited, and there was nobody who could pay the price.
91 And John started crying, ’cause no one was worthy, and no one could even look at the Book. Oh, it took a human being. John wept, because no one could do it, and everything was lost.And there came a voice from one of the elders standing in the midst of the four beasts, and all that great host of heaven said, “Don’t weep, John.” (Oh, my, the grace of God.) “Don’t be broken hearted, John. Don’t weep, for the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root and Offspring from David, He has prevailed.” “Prevail” means “wrestle with and overcome.” Oh, my.
In the Garden of Gethsemane when His Blood dropped down out of His face, He was overcoming…?… The Lion of–and the Root of David has prevailed, has overcome.
A Lamb stepped up; the elder said, “A Lion has overcome, the Lion of the tribe of Judah. And John looked to see the Lion, and there come a Lamb, shaking, blood on Him, wounds; He had prevailed. You could tell He’d been in battle. He’d been slain, but He was alive again.
99 John hadn’t noticed this Lamb before, you know here. He hadn’t been mentioned before. Nowhere had it been mentioned. John didn’t see It all over the heavens as he’s looking, but here It come forth. Notice, where It came forth… Where did It come from? It come from the Father’s throne where He had been seated since He had been slain and raised again. He raised up and set on the right hand of God, ever living to make intercessions. Amen. Raised there today as an Intercessor with His own Blood to make intercession upon the ignorance of the people. Now, oh, that’s the One I’m depending on. He still was covered with bleach, the bleach of the forgiveness of sin.
100 John looked at that Lamb, and the Lamb looked like He’d been slain. And then he noticed He was wounded, and cut, and bruised, and bleeding: a bloody Lamb. That’s what took our place.Isn’t it strange a simple Lamb had to take our place? And he saw the Lamb. He proceeded out; John hadn’t saw Him, because He had been way back into the eternities, even making intercession and showing that those who had come to God under the offering of the blood of bulls, of goats, a substitutionary offering, He also… ‘Cause them who believed it pointed to Him. And the Blood had not been shed yet, so He was there to clear them. He was there to clear you and I. And oh, God, I hope He’s there tonight. For every sinner, the Lamb been slain.
101 How can Jehovah see anything but that bloody Lamb standing there? And the Lamb proceeded out into the vision now, as It had been slain. Notice: come from the Father’s throne… Oh, think, He… Where did He advance from, to this vision? He come from glory where He’s seated at the right hand of God. He advanced forth to John out of glory.Oh, would not it be a glorious thing if our sinful thoughts tonight could be laid aside long enough to accepting Him, He would advance all the way from glory tonight to make Himself known to anyone: the Lamb advancing from glory for intercessions (All right.) to make claims now for His redemption…
102 Remember, He’d been on His mediatorial work back here. But remember, these Seals are ready to be opened, and the Lamb come from the sanctuary of God, advanced forward… Wait till we get over there at that one hour–take that one-half hour that is silent; the sanctuary’s smoking; there’s no more intercession; the Sacrifice has left; it’s a judgment seat. There’s no Blood on it no more, for the Blood covered Lamb has walked away. Don’t you wait till that time.
Gloria seems pretty obvious that Bro Branham said the Lamb was worthy alone to take the book and opened the Seals.
Brad,
What you posted is really long, and I’ve actually read it twice. But before I get into it, as I was reading what you posted and thinking of you, this verse came to my head Matthew 13:14-15 . I truly believe with all my heart Brad, if you pray to Jesus to show you his Word, to reveal what Christ means, he’ll answer you. Just for a second wipe Branham’s words out of your mind, and cry out to God.
You made a comment before saying you thought I slandered, and maybe my intentions were to hurt your feelings. No. Not at all. I unfortunately have seen and heard quite a few false prophets who distort the Word of God. And I cannot just sit there and do nothing about it. To me that is wrong. When you compare Branhams word to God’s word you see the difference. I can.
The above sermon you quoted like i said is long. So I will generalize this. This verse also popped into my head.
Revelation 22:18-19 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
Branham had a knack for adding to the Word, twisitng it, and does it in a way where he claims to have been there. What you quoted above the Breach 1963 has alot wrong with it. But I’m going to stay focused on the topic at hand.
Branham said: “We find out that during that time I saw seven Angels in a form of a pyramid that swept down and picked me up. And I was brought east to open the Seven Seals for God.”
If you need to know where it can be found Brad, Branham wrote it in (Commission By Seven Mighty Angels)
Now I don’t know about you, but that quote speaks for itself. What Branham should have said was Jesus Christ is the only one found worthy of opening the Book.
But I can assume we will be talking in circles, and you will disagree. God Bless you Brad. And truly May Jesus Christ touch your heart, and may you see the Word of God as it is written.
Gloria
Your chronology is flawed. You’re mixing up two separate events.
The Lamb took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne and loosed the seals. This took place in heaven. John saw it happen up there.
This event is followed by Revelation 10:1 – 7 where a mighty angel comes down to earth with the book open to reveal the contents to the seventh angel. Who was the mighty angel. It was God. How does he do it. By seven manifests of angelic form.
So what was opened in heaven now must be revealed on earth.
You also need to understand the roles of angels, particularly the Angel of the Covenant, which is Christ in angelic form. That’s why most people think that Melchesidec was just a man. He was more than a man he was God.
God can hid himself in many ways and roles, that’s why he’s God, he can do what he wants.
To say that William Branham made many mistakes in the Breach message that was provided is ridiculous, but then again, it’s got to be revealed ie: revelation.
Question; does Satan heal yes or no. If so how does he do it.
Heh Josh,
Interestin question on whether Satan can heal or not. I’m curious to see how these people respond or even if they respond at all.
You also brought up some points about the role of angels which I find very interesting, particularly about Melchesidec.
What about the Angel of the Lord, who is he?
Many of us have been watching these comments and questions goin back and forth. Whoever this Brad guy is, he just demolished them on the identification aspect, had everyone of us laughing at the stupidity of this website.
Pete
MATTHEW 7:6
6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
heh you can quote scripture, impressive.
So you’re not “identified” with God either?
I apologize for my edgy reply.
Convert,
It’s been a while since you’ve visited this site. I take it because you are quoting Matthew 7:6 you feel as if I’ve judged Branham somehow?
Yet the Lord tells us in: 2 Timothy 3
16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God[b] may be complete, equipped for every good work.
And here:
1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Mark 7:6-9 And he said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men.” And he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition!
Peter,
You said and also Josh asked in a different way: Interestin question on whether Satan can heal or not. I’m curious to see how these people respond or even if they respond at all.
My reply: We get a look at what the devil can do here:
2 Corinthians 11:13 For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
Then of course there is this one:
2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.11For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false,12in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.
So if the devil can counterfeit miracles, then we can assume he can counterfeit healings. That is why when we are close to Jesus, he can reveal to us the lies of the devil.
Dear Gloria
Shalom.
Also non-believers are healed from sicknesses. Who heals them?
Deuteronomy 32:39
“See now that I myself am He! There is no god besides me. I put to death and I bring to life, I have wounded and I will heal, and no one can deliver out of my hand.
Healing is a gift from the Creator God. It can never be used to confirm a doctrine in regards to the difference between right or wrong.
So men of Satan can claim healing in the name of Jesus, and deceive the flock to accept heretic teachings and deceptive spirits.
Blessings Ivar,
Jesus is great in his gifts and all things. And the devil will use any trickery to try and deceive. You are correct.
Gloria
MATTHEW 12:26
26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
ivarfjeld says:
“Also non-believers are healed from sicknesses. Who heals them?
Deuteronomy 32:39
“See now that I myself am He! There is no god besides me. I put to death and I bring to life, I have wounded and I will heal, and no one can deliver out of my hand.
Healing is a gift from the Creator God, It can never be used to confirm a doctrine in regards to the difference between right or wrong” NEVER???
John 10:37–38
If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him.”
John 3:2 He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him.”
Acts 3:6 Then Peter said, “Silver or gold I do not have, but what I have I give you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, walk.”
ivarfjeld says:
“So men of Satan can claim healing in the name of Jesus, and deceive the flock to accept heretic teachings and deceptive spirits”.
(this is correct)
Dear Peter.
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
When a person is healed, I say” Praise Jesus. If I in the next moment say “Gay’s can marry”, there was probably nothing wrong with the healing of the person. But my doctrines seems to have been corrupted.
But if I rather said: “Gay’s can not marry”. My doctrine is not correct because of the healing that took place, but rather because the Scriptures says so. My doctrinal stand can never confirmed by a claimed healing. Healing is not the highest authority in matters of faith.
That’s fine I don’t have a problem with your clarification here, but that’s not what you initially said.
You said it can “never” and I’m saying oh yes it can.
Dear Peter.
Shalom.
We must rejoice with a person who is healed. Regardless of what religion He belongs to. Still we must be careful, not to claim that God is behind this, to confirm a doctrine.
Deuteronomy 13:1-4
If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. It is the Lord your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him.
(end).
I believe in healing, and the Holy Spirit given gift of Healing.
But claimed healing can be the most deceptive message give to any human being. I can be healed one day, and fall sick again the very next week.
But be sure: If this happens to me, I will never be invited to God-TV to tell the truth, spoiling the message of false “Faith healers”.
Dear Peter.
Shalom.
“We must rejoice with a person who is healed. Regardless of what religion He belongs to. Still we must be careful, not to claim that God is behind this, to confirm a doctrine”.
But your earlier comment was “Healing is a gift from the Creator God. It can NEVER be used to confirm a doctrine in regards to the difference between right or wrong”.
So just exactly what are you saying here because your language is floating back and forth and it’s difficult to understand your reasoning. Is it NEVER or is sometimes?
Deuteronomy 13:1-4
If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. It is the Lord your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him.
Yes, but it is also written…….
Deuteronomy 18:21-22
21 [a]You may say in your heart, ‘How will we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?’ 22 When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.
So what happens if a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord and it does come to pass???
“I believe in healing, and the Holy Spirit given gift of Healing”. good!
“But claimed healing can be the most deceptive message give to any human being. I can be healed one day, and fall sick again the very next week”.
these two sentences don’t even belong together.
“But be sure: If this happens to me, I will never be invited to God-TV to tell the truth, spoiling the message of false “Faith healers”.
be sure if what happens to you???
respectfully, you need to make yourself more clear in your statements.
God knows who are His. The problem with many people including those who are sincere is that they do not know that Christianity is by revelation… Brother William Branham was a prophet of God… unfortunately some people don’t know what this means. I pray for God’s revelation upon you.
1. It is true that trinity is of the devil becoz it’s not found in the Bble… it’s a Catholic doctrine.
2. It’s tru that the Bible said no one was worth to open the seals… But the same Bible said the lamb is able to do so and he did… Tha Lamb opened it and revealed it to mankind thru His prophet William Banham.
… Freedom of exprwession ias a God given right… But God thru his divine foreknowledge knows whoare His.
Owen,
A man who claims he was allowed to open the seven seals is a false prophet. Such words should have never come out of Branham’s mouth, because only Jesus Christ is worthy.
Gloria
False prophets have been a dime a dozen from the beginning of Christianity. Jesus Christ Himself warned against them. He said beware of false prophets who come to you in the clothing of sheep.” (Matt. 7: 15).
Owen Makaka: The Holy Trinity is not another god of the Devil. The Holy Trinity is the God of Abraham. Isaac and Jacob, as the Bible shows, in the Old Testament as well as the New Testament: “And He said: Let Us make man to Our image and likeness…” (Genesis 1: 26). The Lord appeared to Abraham in the form of three men. “Who shall know Thy thought, except Thou give wisdom, and send Thy Holy Spirit from above.” (Wisdom 9: 17).”Thus saith the Lord the king of Israel, and His redeemer the Lord of Hosts…” (Isaias 44: 6). The name Adonai that God revealed to Moses is a plurality that means literally “Lords.”
Eloi spoken of in Psalm 21: 2 means God in justice. This refers to God the Father Whom Jesus called on from the Cross. Jesus is the Greek form of the Hebrew Joshue, or Joshua, meaning “Jah saves,” “Jehova saves.” or “The God of Mercy saves,” The Shekina or The Holy Spirit was the Divine Presence in the great Temple of Jerusalem. It was the Holy Spirit that was taken from the Temple and that descended on the Church at Pentecost (Acts 2).”There are three that give testimony in Heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost. And these three are One.” (1 John 5: 7).
Gloria, are you sure of what you are saying.
Hamlet,
Let me ask you. If a sinner man or woman came up to you and told you that he was worthy to open the seven seals, would you believe him?
Hmmm….I so much pity the Gloria that wrote this..u know nothing about the scripture,if u don’t belive the message of any of the 7 stars on Jesus right u are doomed,better go and reconsider ur stand!.Jesus also was called a lots of name in His days…even most of the prophets in isreal never had it smooth they were all the time criticised…pls be a vessel unto honour
I wholeheartedly disagree with your post.william braham is a true prophet of this last (laodecea) age. Read more of his books to know more of him.
Gloria,God bless u.i also pray that God of heaven will open ur eyes,cause only him can do that.no one can come to me except my father draws him says Jesus.believe ur bible not branham nor the Catholic Church.Sister Gloria if I gave you somebody and said to you,please sister ,go and baptism this person in the name of my father.By the way my surname is Ogundipe.if you then take this individual to the river and say ‘I baptize you in the name of father’.itgoes to show how shallow and without understanding you are of my instruction.to show that you understood me,you would go and say’i baptize you in the name of mr ogundipe’.cause that’s my father’s name.this is not about branham or anybody,this is god’s word.u ask yourself,why did the disciples ,who were the direct recipients of that instruction,baptize otherwise and no one place in the bible did they baptize in titles.and god stamped it with the Holy Ghost.you know what the diff is?those disciples did not hear that instruction by the flesh or letter,just like ‘eat my flesh and drink my blood’they heard it by revelation.open ur eyes my blessed sister,that title baptism of father son etc is from the Catholic Church,stay away from it.twas in 325bc anybody first baptized in titles after the death of the last apostle’s believer.godbless you.
I second what Gideon wrote, no one comes to Jesus except the Father draws him/her. This conversation will go on for years, but those that will believe the bible will believe it by revelation and those that will not see it CAN NEVER SEE IT. Gloria, if you are a predestinated seed of God, you will see the truth whether today or someday. But if you are not, you will NEVER SEE IT. Haven’t you read that it is given to SOME NOT ALL to know the mysteries of the kingdom. Whether Branham was a true prophet or not, ONLY GOD vindicates those who are his, it is left to them whom the prophet of God is sent to to see it. Just as it was in the bible. Do you think Jesus was sent to Caiphas or Pontius Pilate???The Lamb of God was slain from the foundation of the world to save the lost souls.
One question I have for you Gloria is this, the water baptism that the Apostles of Christ baptized in the bible(which were done in the name of our Lord Jesus Christe.g Acts2:38), was it ordained of God or not? And secondly, God said in Malachi 1 vs 11 ”For my name will be great among the nations, says the LORD of hosts….” the question to you is, what name of God is great among the nations today; I believe it is Jesus Christ. Jesus said I came in the name of my Father. Jesus in hebrew is Yeshua meaning God our saviour!!! Finally, show me one place in the bible where ANYONE was BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY GHOST.
In summary, let him who rejects God’s word continue to do so and let them who have an understanding of God’s word hold tightly to what they have received. Time is short, soon Gloria and all who have posted here will know the truth whether in this world or the great judgement seat. Let ALL that nameth the name of Christ hold on to the truth. Moses
Moses.
Shalom.
You wrote:
Gloria, if you are a predestinated seed of God, you will see the truth whether today or someday. But if you are not, you will NEVER SEE IT.
My reply:
Calvinism and Catholicism seems to be two of a kind.
I have closed the comment field for this article. May Jesus have mercy on all souls, and save us purely by His grace. Amen.