“Christian” leaders demand US betrayal of Israel

Religious leaders call on Congress to re-evaulate military aid to Israel.

Apostate “Christian” leaders is the US demand that Romney and Obama betray Israel. Romney is less likely to listen and obey.

Fifteen leaders of U.S. churches and other faith-based organizations have asked Congress to reevaluate U.S. military aid to Israel.

 “As Christian leaders in the United States, it is our moral responsibility to question the continuation of unconditional U.S. financial assistance to the government of Israel. Realizing a just and lasting peace will require this accountability, as continued U.S. military assistance to Israel — offered without conditions or accountability — will only serve to sustain the status quo and Israel’s military occupation of the Palestinian territories,” the letter, signed by leaders of the Lutheran, Methodist, UCC churches, and the National Council of Churches, said.

The American Jewish Committee said it was outraged by the Christian leaders’ call.

 “When the world currently is focused on the Iranian nuclear threat to the entire Middle East and the world, Christian leaders have chosen to mount another political attack on Israel,” said Rabbi Noam Marans, AJC director of Interreligious and Intergroup Relations.

 “When religious liberty and safety of Christians across the Middle East are threatened by the repercussions of the Arab Spring, these Christian leaders have chosen to initiate a polemic against Israel, a country that protects religious freedom and expression for Christians, Muslims and others.”

Source: JTA.org

My comment:

The last days will be known for the great falling away, and a massive betrayal of Israel.

Pagans can not fall away from a faith they have never had. It is followers of Jesus who are going to walk away from faith, and join others who are willing to betray the Messiah.

In the Lutheran and Methodist camp, anti-Zionism has been a problem since 1948.

The existence of a Jewish statehood do not fit into replacement theology. For supporters of this ideology, it can simply not be possible that Jesus has re-birthed Israel.

The basic doctrine of this ideology, is that All the promises given to the Jews were transported to the Catholics.  And only when the Jews embrace “the church”, God want to stand by his promises to them.

The truth is that the Messiah is a Zionist. He is the author of all the promises to the Jewish people.  He regathered them home and re-birthed the Jewish homeland. He took them home. All of them. Both the good the bad and the ugly.

You have no right to harm them. Anti-Zionists who claim to know “Jesus” have never known Him. They should read Matthew 7: 21-24 all over again.

 Matthew 7:21-24
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’

Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

It is not Father God’s will that man shall support a “Messiah” who is a rebel, and who change both his nature and his mind.

Stand up for Israel. Stand with the Jewish people in their time of trouble.

Written by Ivar

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55 thoughts on ““Christian” leaders demand US betrayal of Israel

  1. Shalom

    “BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS”
    Our Lord Jesus Christ warned:
    “Take heed that no man
    deceive you. For many shall
    come in my name, saying, I am
    Christ [from the Greek word
    christos meaning Anointed] ;
    and shall deceive many…. For
    there shall arise false Christs,
    and false prophets, and shall
    shew great signs and wonders;
    insomuch that, if it were
    possible, they shall deceive the
    very elect.” (Matt. 24:4,5,24)

    1. May I clarify what I meant, by Romans Chapter 1.

      They are nothing but prostitutes for abandoning the truth and to serve lesbians and homosexuals that lead their congregations in “prayer and worship” like it says their foolish heart was darkened.

      They by their own “wise” (admission) they profess their foolishness.

      Romans 1:16-25
      King James Version (KJV)
      16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

      17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

      18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

      19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

      20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

      21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

      22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

      23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

      24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

      25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

  2. America loves giving military aid. And it loves ignoring what the churches say, “seperation of church and state” So the media reports that Christians want to stop military aid, then the cheers for military aid begin to mount.

    1. it is not the churches calling for separation of church and state. Its the atheists and lesbians and homosexuals in the methodist, lutheran, presbyterian mainline churches because the Bible clearly points to the “FACT” that they damn themselves by the abhorrent sexual use of each other, men with men, women with women. For those of you that sit under those evil satanic ministries, you to are condemning yourselves to “HELL”.

      Not my thoughts or words, but from the “BIBLE” the very word which “THEY” are supposed to be teaching from “2 TIMOTHY 3:16-17”

      Wake up Ed.

      1. Yes the athiests, agnostics and non-Christians, and those who act like them love the term seperation of church and state. So if the media, acting on behalf of the monied powers in America, wants to get them behind something, they say the Christians say such and such, in this case military funding, then the non-christians are ok with more military funding, as much as they can. Then the monied powers line their pockets selling weapons to the whole world at the taxpayers expense.

        Seperation of church and state is good when used properly, but like anything when used dishonestly can be no good.

      2. “I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.” -Abe Lincoln

        It’s all about preying on prejudices, keep people fighting amongst themselves, the balance of power around 50/50 then all they have to do to do whatever they want is pick which side to be on that day.

        If Christians didnt say it they would simply say they did. Most of the media is all athiests, what’s morality to them. A lie is as good as the truth if it serves their purpose.

    2. Ed,
      I wrote earlier this year that Obama and the media were inciting anti-Zionism. Obama created the Faith Counsel for this very reason and put Lyn Hybels on the board to help promote anti-Zionism. I think you err here, Obama has been waiting for this day.

      As a side note, there is no separation of church and state here, the state just promotes a different religion now. See my writings on what “religion’ is by definition.

  3. For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye.Zechariah 2:8 as true bible beleiveing christians we stand with israel as in these days we can see more and more the world turnning against the jewish people even our leaders who i think put a thick blanket over there real intentions, more and more we here the jewish nation will be destroyed and wiped of the face of the earth ,but there is one thing the jewish people have that the rest of the nations dont and that is the GOD of israel on there side .

  4. Let them get on with it, they have Bibles but don’t read em. The Lord don’t need em to bring His prophetic word to pass, its already written and will happen whether they are on this side or that side.

  5. Romney is less likely to cut aid to Israel.

    And the “mainline protestants” are almost as bad as catholicism when it comes to the lies of “replacement theology” and hatred of the truth, so this should not shock.

    Only Bible-believers will support Israel in the end, because the Bible teaches to support Israel.

  6. Dumb fools I will never turn my back on Israel…the Bible says not to add to or take from the word God gave Jewish people Israel the deeds in the Bible..the damnation and wrath of God these people will fill.he says I will bless those that bless Israel and curse those that curse Israel..

    1. Gen 12:3I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.”

      Galatians 3:8 The Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.”

      It’s talking about Jesus, those who bless him will be blessed and those who curse him cursed.

      Israel does not exactly bless Jesus and perhaps bring trouble upon themselves until the last days.

      1. Ed, you poor misinformed person, it’s about the Nation of Israel, YWHW’s people.
        YWHW told Abram exactly what it says, I will bless those that bless you, and curse those that curse you. No if ands or buts.
        Very clear, concise and definitive.
        When you understand man’s sin nature, what it is born of, and the desires that are born of that nature. You’ll see that from the fall in the Garden of Eden, mans doing, we have been disobedient ever since. Not every sin or temptation is solely the work of satan, the deadliest foe we encounter, when I have been tempted, in retrospect, I have put myself in that position. Thank God for salvation we have received through the loins of the “Jewish Nation”
        My point, satans desire is the death of every Jew in the Nation of Israel, if he can succeed, which he cannot, he effectively stops the return of Christ, our Messiah. But we Luke Chapter 14 disciples, know He will return to save a remnant of the Jewish Nation.
        Are you saved Ed?

      2. Ed …..I have just read Galations 3 and 4 and it is clear as day the { seed } is the son of GOD and mans saveior JESUS CHRIST .I can not sea how this interpretation makes one anti-Jewish ! are there not ten tribes scaterd in the world today ? It is also my humble interpretation that JESUS will only return to Jerusalem when the Jews admit there fault ,repent and wellcome him back { the second time} as the Messia .And to bring this about I guess they will have to have there backs to the wall ! or the authorities will have to come clean about the Ark of the covenent witch still lies hidden in Jerymias grotoe 20 feet directly below where JESUS was sacrificed and where his blood haveing flowed down the cross and into the crack { opend by the earthquacke } and then onto the mercy seat { completeing the sacrifice as was in the days of mosses }, and this uneque blood is JESUS CHRISTS underniable testoment and prehaps the proof the Jewish people need to forefill this conditional prophasyl

      3. Two different promises in question, Ed.

        The promise in Galatians is eternal life.

        The promise of the land in Genesis, is a different promise.

        You go to a bad church.

      4. I’m not promoting anti-Jewish anything. I agree the land of Israel was given to the Jews. But where it says Abrahams seed would be a blessing to all nations it means Jesus Christ.

      5. Ed, once again, Galatians is about salvation, not about the separate promise of the land. You go to a bad church.

      1. Gal 3:16 “The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.”

      2. Dear Ed.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        Gal 3:16 “The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.”

        My comment:

        There is a huge error in your replacement theology, and your “Christ” is a copycat Messiah. It was Jesus the Messiah who gave Abraham this promise. Did Jesus have to use Abraham to give a promise to Him self?

      3. That’s straight from the bible Ivar. I don’t think the point of the promise was so much a promise to himself that He would come and be God, He already was God. But a promise He would come and the whole world would be blessed by it. Who else could promise that or do that? Jewish people are just people not much different than anyone else, except that Christ came to us as on of their descendants.

      4. Dear Ed.

        Shalom.

        Jesus tells Abraham that He will be blessed, and that all nations shall be bless through Him, and his seed. So obviously Abraham him self was going to become a blessing. And not only Abraham. The promises of God of the Bible is repeated to Isaak. So your ideology is wrong and evil. The promises is again repeated to Israel, to King Solomon, King David, etc, etc.

        Replacement theology is built on a satanic lie. That God can not be trusted, and that the promises given to the Jewish patriach’s are not given to the Jewish people in plural, but have been transported to pagans who follow a copy-cat Messiah.

      5. Jesus Christ is Abraham’s seed, absolutely and anyone who is in Christ or who belongs to Christ is also the seed of Abraham
        Galatians 3:29 If you belong to Christ then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise
        To belong to Christ requires faith that believes in him. The same kind of faith that Abraham had to believe which made him righteous. Those in Christ are believers, plain and simple. They make up the church, they are from every tongue, tribe and nation, These are the people of God. To say other wise is to deny the very promise that Christ made to Abraham. All nations will be blessed through you. To limit the promise to one specific people group ie;Jews is Anti- Christ. The great nation of Abraham is believers. Can you think of any nation that is greater. We belong to the greatest nation that exists whose King
        is Jesus. We have been redeemed. Some have it correct and some have it incorrect

      6. Ivar
        greetings and peace
        you are correct when you said that the promise was given to Issac and David. and Jacob(Israel) This is because they believed with faith in what God said. Had they not believed they would not have received the promise. The difference is faith. Believing Israel inherited the promise, unbelieving Israel did not. It’s about people who believe what God says. Today the Great nation of Abraham and the people of God are people who believe as he did. These are the people who God has put his seed(spirit) in. He lives in them and dwells among them, just as he promised

      7. The promises were repeated to Isaac, David and Soloman but having the same meaning as the promise made to Abraham. Which was not so obvious that it meant Jesus Christ. But they were all humble enough to recognize not every descendent of theirs would be a blessing to all nations, but just the one descendant, Jesus Christ.

        I’m not a subscriber to replacement theology, but the bible indicates there is a temporary condition so that the gentiles (non Jews) can be grafted in.

      8. Ed, those are two separate promises.

        Galatians is the promise for salvation.

        Genesis is the promise for the land and other things.

        You have a bad church.

      9. Ed
        When it comes to being grafted into the natural tree spoken of in Romans it requires faith. This is a spiritual thing. This is about salvation. All men have been bound to disobedience so that all men can receive mercy.
        Unbelieving Israel was cut off off from the tree and are grafted in
        the same way unbelieving gentiles are. By faith, not by observance of the law. The natural tree is rooted in faith. Jews and anyone else are not grafted in except by faith. Through faith
        they are grafted in and make a holy nation. Together they become one people. The people of God.Their is no dividing wall that sets one better than the other. Ouside of Christ their is a wall.

      10. In Galatians it clearly points out that the promise was talking about Christ. Abraham and his descendants had to go through all they did in order for Christ to be born where he was when he was. Which is greater the kingdom of heaven or the land of Israel? When God showed Moses all the land he would inherit he certainly meant the land of Israel. When Satan showed Jesus all the land he could rule over Jesus rejected it for a greater inheritance. So there’s a duality involved yes but the kingdom of heaven is the greater inheritance.

      11. Ed, you are wrong. Salvation is the promise in Galatians. The land is the promise in Genesis, and it is only to the Jewish people. You’re an anti-semite, clearly.

      12. I agree it is about salvation which is what the promise was about, not about inheriting land at all, except that the land was used symbolically to represent the kingdom of heaven.

        According to Galatians the promise referred to Christ and no other.

        Gal 3:16The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,”g meaning one person, who is Christ. 17What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. 18For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.

        Gal 3:19 “What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come.”

        I would say that fits reality better also since the Jews have become disenfranchised from the land on a couple occasions. I don’t attend any church, never have.

      13. Andy
        The promise in genesis is about salvation and an inheritance of eternal value. We have the entire scripture that gives us the full understanding of the promise. The book of Hebrews tells the 1st century Jews that Abraham lived in the land as a sojourner, as did Issac and Jacob who were heirs of the same promise. He did not make permanent residence their because he was looking for a better place. He was looking forward to the city whose architect and builder is God. The point that the writer of Hebrews was trying to get across to them was that the temporal earthly land is not important and is not the inheritance, they should be looking forward to the inheritance that was promised to Abraham. A heavenly land, that is of greater value. So much importance is placed on the land when the focus should be on salvation. Jews can call it their land if they want, but should consider it as Abraham did, a temporary place. Without Christ the temporal earthly land is all they will get. In Christ the land is not important
        because the promised land is a heavenly land. Outside of Christ
        the earthly temporal land is the most important because its all they have in this life. The perspective is different inside of Christ.
        We know that we are aliens and strangers here because our citizenship is in heaven. Abraham knew that and those in Christ know that. How unfortunate for those outside of Christ. The vast majority of the people that live in the land of Israel do not know that. The New covenant ? is; are you in Christ? or are you outside of Christ? because nothing else matters including the land. Blindness causes unbelief

  7. THESE ARE NOT TRUE CHRISTIAN LEADERS, THEY ARE “APOSTATE” (ESPECIALLY ‘O’, WHO BELIEVES THERE IS MORE THAN ONE WAY TO HEAVEN, OTHER THAN JESUS CHRIST). PLEASE, DO NOT, lump in TRUE CHRIST FOLLOWERS with these two or others like Oprah and a few, who have NO idea who the True and Living God and Jesus Christ really are?? Thanks.

  8. In my life time I’ve always heard of different denomination of churches especially the Muslims always saying terrible things against gods beloved people, so to make a long story short and I’ll just say this anyone ho stand against gods beloved chosen people in any way or form is an enemy and a hater of god and those churches ans these fake Christians will ansawre to the lord when he comes back in glory and power. For all those Christians and churches ho stand against the Jewish people let me just say this, Jesus says in the bible that in his second coming he will separate the sheeps in the right side of him and the goats on the left side of him and he will say to the sheeps witch are the good true Christians you have feed me when I was hungry , visited me when I was in jail , gave me water when I was thirsty and so on and the true faithful Christians will say when did we do all this for you Jesus and jesus will say when you saw my people ho are the Jews in those times of needs the true Christians helped the and gave them the hel

    1. Dear Jimmy

      Galatians 3:16
      God made incredible promises to
      Abraham and his seed about 4,000
      years ago … promises of a land for
      an everlasting possession, an
      innumerable family, destruction of
      their enemies, and blessings on all
      nations of the earth. Who is the
      seed of Abraham? The answer
      should be important to every
      reader.
      The Seed of Abraham is Christ
      and His elect.
      “Now to Abraham and his seed
      were the promises made. He saith
      not, And to seeds, as of many; but
      as of one, And to thy seed, which is
      Christ.” Galatians 3:16
      “For as many of you as have been
      baptized into Christ have put on
      Christ. There is neither Jew nor
      Greek, there is neither bond nor
      free, there is neither male nor
      female: for ye are all one in Christ
      Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then
      are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs
      according to the promise.”
      Galatians 3:27-29

  9. So many “replacement theology” heretics on this site. It’s a shame that such people can’t read Romans chapters 9 through 11 and realize that they are fighting against the very Root that they claim to be in. Jesus is the Root, and He is Jewish, and the first Christians were all Jewish, and there are many Jewish Christians today.

    What a bunch of hateful and unbiblical people these “replacement theology” types are.

    1. Andy
      No body disputes that Jesus is the root. No body disputes that the first followers of Jesus were Jewish. They were the first to receive it. It went to the Jew first. I certainly am grateful for Christ and the first fruits (Jews) who were witnesses and took the gospel to the ends of the earth. Them and the apostles revealed the mystery of God. That mystery was that the Gentiles would be included into the natural tree through faith just as they had faith.
      Your so quick to refer to these RT types as you call them as hateful and unbiblical, when the truth of the matter is, is that their
      is hate in your heart towards your brothers in Christ. If your response is in regards to what I wrote to you then please tell me what I wrote that was incorrect and we can discuss that rationally rather then accusing of being hateful and unbiblical.
      It is always the non RT types that accuse those that are, as being hateful and unbiblical and jew haters. Who has the hate?

      1. Todd

        In Genesis 22:18 we have God’s
        promise to Abraham. “In your
        seed all the nations of the earth
        shall be blessed, because you
        have obeyed My voice.” In Paul’s
        letter to the Galatians he makes
        reference to that verse, saying,
        “Now to Abraham and his Seed
        were the promises made. He
        does not say, ‘And to seeds,’ as
        of many, but as of one, ‘And to
        your Seed,’ who is Christ.” God
        promised to bless all the nations
        through Abraham’s Seed. Galatians
        3:16. The blessing was that God
        would justify the Gentiles by faith,
        even as Abraham was justified
        because He believed.
        The Galatians had been bewitched
        by legalistic preachers, who
        proclaimed another gospel of
        works, the works of the law.
        According to them, obedience to
        the law of Moses was a condition
        of salvation.

      2. Amen Tiva, That’s what I’ve been trying to convey. Also the legalistic preachers you mention were those of the circumcision group. Judaizers. But don’t forget that through the power of adoption gentiles were made sons just as the Jews who believe were, therefore giving them equal inheritance. Those of us who believe with faith, Jew and gentile are the same in Christ. Together we make one body, one nation, the church of whom Jesus is the chief cornerstone. Not only are we justifiedthrough faith in Jesus but we are also one family. This can only happen through faith in Christ. Unbelieving Jews and gentiles do not share in the inheritance. They have no inheritance. Some want to make the two different and give one preference over the other.That is incorrect

      3. Hi Todd,

        In defense of Andy, the RT types are famous for making it up as they go along (see RCC, Lutherans, Anglicans). The very well known teacher John Piper is one of these. He’s caught taking Romans 11:28 and inserting that the Jews are enemies of God.

        A good break out of this comes from Rabbi Baruch:

        “…This is well-said. The problem is that Mr. Piper grossly mishandles the Scripture and thereby arrives at “his truths” which are a distortion of the Biblical record. For example, in quoting Romans 11:28, “As regards the Gospel they (Israel) are enemies of God for your sake but as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers.”

        “The first problem is that, if one checks the original Greek text, the word “God” does not appear in this verse.

        κατὰ μὲν τὸ εὐαγγέλιον ἐχθροὶ δι’ ὑμᾶς, κατὰ δὲ τὴν ἐκλογὴν ἀγαπητοὶ διὰ τοὺς πατέρας:

        “Correct translation: “In regard to the Gospel, (they are) enemies for your sake, but in regard to the election, (they are) beloved for the sake of the patriarchs.””

        I don’t like dropping URLs on Ivar’s site but more can be found at Parts 1 and 2

        http://www.torahclass.com/archived-articles/860-a-response-to-john-pipers-article-by-rabbi-baruch

        http://www.torahclass.com/archived-articles/865-a-response-to-john-pipers-article-part-2-by-rabbi-baruch

        Sorry, but the hate is from those who usurp the Promise to the Israelite’s.

      4. Godsfinger
        Greetings and peace.
        Thank you for your comment. My Bible does not have God in the verse you cited, Rom 11:28. However to clarify who is being referred to in the verse look at the context. Paul is talking about his fellow kinsman,ie Israelites, and I would clarify that a little further as unbelieving Israelites. But he’s telling his readers even though they are enemies because they definitely had much to do with the persecution of the saints, they are loved and to be loved because of the Patriarchs. I do not listen or read any of John Piper’s stuff. I believe Paul mention’s in his letter to the Phillipians “For as I have told you before and now say it again even with tears,many live as enemies of the cross. Who was he speaking about in that verse? and who was he reffering to that would cause him to weep over their actions? I always enjoy reading your posts.Thank you and I pray that you have a great day of worship today

  10. Todd

    God’s word is clear and simple but we misunderstood it

    GAL 3:29 And if ye be
    Christ’s, then are ye
    Abraham’s seed, and heirs
    according to the promise.
    The idea that those in
    Christ are not the seed of
    Abraham, and that they do
    not share equally with the
    same equality of Jews, is
    false. Abraham and all Jews
    who knew the promise of
    God, know that the promise
    to Abraham was that ALL
    NATIONS , would
    be blessed to share in the
    promises of Abraham at a
    future date and time. To
    deny this and keep the
    Jews separate from those
    saved in Jesus, is to build
    up again the wall that was
    torn down by Messiah on
    the Cross. Now, there is
    neither Jew nor Gentile we
    are all equal at the foot of
    the Cross.

      1. Hi Todd,

        Above you mentioned the circumcision group. You might be surprised to find out that the group seems to have resurrected somewhat. In the circles of the Messianic Jews is a growing theology of the “One New Man” teaching that keeping the feasts and following a more Jewish form of worship and identity is needed to be more pleasing to God. Since most Americans are circumcised that part is moot but does the rest sound familiar? What becomes a problem for them is it seems to attract more Gentiles ( the over religious?) which then seems to alienate potential new Jewish believers. Interesting…

        Have a great day,

        Dan

      2. Hi Godsfinger
        Yeh, you know I read something to that affect some time ago
        It is interesting , the parallel. History repeats itself. A gospel of works which is no gospel at all. Galatians were bewitched because of that kind of teaching. Thanks for bringing that to my attention

  11. goldfingers

    Judaizer were preaching gospel of flesh which save no one at all
    Paul’s epistle to the Galatians is
    primarily concerned with the rise
    of a Judaizing sect which sought to
    bind upon the Galatians
    (particularly the Gentiles) certain
    Jewish practices in accordance
    with the law of Moses. The issue
    focused on the role of
    circumcision in salvation (see Acts
    15:1-5). Must the Gentiles be
    circumcised to be saved? Or asked
    another way, is obedient faith in
    Jesus Christ sufficient for
    salvation? How will the Gentiles be
    saved: by the work of
    circumcision or by faith in Christ?
    It seems clear that after a recent
    visit of Paul to the Galatian
    churches certain Judaizers traveled
    through the region adding to
    Paul’s gospel of salvation through
    faith in Christ. These antagonists
    had, in fact, perverted the gospel
    of Christ (Gal. 1:8,9). They had
    turned the grace of God into a
    legalistic code.

    1. Tiva82
      Tis true what you say, and this is why New testament writings came about so quickly. False teaching was rampant just a Jesus said that it would in his Olivet discourse. Its amazing how the spirit inspired these men to write and how consistent their writings were with each other. This false teaching needed to be adressed. Very good Tiva

      1. Todd

        Thank you, Even now modern Judaizers has been risen where they were hiding, They will tell in other to be a true follower Yeshua do not Use the name God, Jesus, Do not celebrate Christmas holidays you need to celebrate Jewish feasts, etc

  12. Is not the trinity a C atholic come pagan doctrine. The word trinity does not appear in the Bible. Consider this. God is eternal. For a mere 6 thousand years Jesus and the Holy Spirit are active and then are absorbed by God for eternity. Now. About Abraham. Who are the promised and true children of Abraham? Gal. 3.29. And if you are. Christs, then you are Abraham’s seed, (children) and heirs according to the promise. ( covenant) Again Paul says that not the Jews of the flesh are Abraham’s children but only the born again Jews and Gentiles. Therefore the unsaved Jews are not God’s people. The Bible is not about the Jews but about Jesus and the Gentiles.

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