Bones of Saint Ann have been collected from several places, and kept in the Shrine of St. Anne de Beaupre, in Quebec in Canada.
Who is saint Ann?
The Pope in Rome claims she is the mother of the mother of Jesus.
The problems is that there is no record in the Bible about the name of the mother of the mother of Jesus.
Absolutely nothing about her at all.
The name “Ann” do appear in the “gospel of James”, an apocalyptical book that has never been included in any cannon of the Bible.
Still, the “gospel of James” is the very foundation of Marian theology.
What does the “gospel of James” tell us?
This book explains that Mary had a miraculous birth, and remind a virgin all her life. Her children mentioned in the canonized Gospels, are explained to be the children Joseph had from an earlier marriage. He was a widower, and remarried the young Jewish virgin. This gospel written down around 150 A.D, claims Joseph never had sex with his second wife.
The problem with this message, is that nothing of this can be found in the Bible. Neither in the Old Testament, nor in the New Testament.
The Roman Catholic Church (RCC) follows a gnostic gospels. The RCC is not at all a Biblical Church, but has its foundation deeply routed in gnosticism.
All Catholics are called to address Catholic Mary as “The Mother of God”. To take this theme to its logical conclusion, it will obviously be correct to call saint Ann for “The Grandmother of God”. And her husband Joachim should be canonized as the “The Grandfather of God”.
Written by Ivar
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MAY YESHUA HAVE MERCY UPON THEM as they continue in their idol worship. They will bring generational curses upon themselves and their families aprt from facing an eternity in hell if they do not come to full repentance
I find this humanization of god head amazing. Totally lost in all the charade is the simple fact that Mary was required to bring the burden of sin into the Son of Man. If she was sinless by miraculous birth then, like Mary, her mother would be holy, and even more holy and as Ivar pointed out the grandparents would grand parents of god. Wait, in order for that holiness their grandparents would have to have been holy……
It reminds me of the Hindu, what holds up the world? An elephant. What holds up the elephant? An elephant…..
Greeting Ivar,
There are many paths to the center, there isnt only one way or one truth. Many faiths have their own holy books, are you saying that your is the only true one? When all faiths start to respect one another paths the healing can begin, Co-existing together is a beautiful thing! I respect all of them and their right to worship according to their faith, even your’s. My spiritual path is just that mine and I dont have nor see the need to try and pour it down someone else throat. All faiths have something barrowed from another(Anicent).
Youn have a blessed Day
Dear Joyce Brown
Shalom.
It is true that peaceful co-existence between men is a noble task. But if we see through history, this is utopia.
The truth is that God is Just and Holy. Man is not. If we claim to be just and holy, we only deceive our selves.
An honest man admit that he is a sinner, hopelessly lost. He can never approach a Holy God, and surely not enter His Kingdom of Heaven.
All of us have sinned, and fallen short of the glory of God. The wages of sin is death.
The Good news is that God has provided the solution, and the only solution there is. Jesus paid the price for my sin. No one else will do this, and his victory on the cross in Jerusalem can not be copied by any other “god”.
You need to be saved.
Greeting Ivar
My faith is Wicca-pagan, my path, the solution as you call it. I have left your world and the worlds like it years ago, Saved from what? I believe in the Goddess and God. I finally have peace and I am soo happy! I respect all faiths and their rights to worship accordly. And your right to worship accordly to the faith you are in, mine nor your’s are the only path to the center!…I have watch over the years and grew up around those dragging and picking apart those other faiths or whose paths are diffenent from their’s. The mine is right and yours are wrong stuff, I wanted noooo part of that kind of mind-set. Sure there isnt anything wrong in discussing other faiths!:)
Blessed Be!
Ivar
JESUS fulfilled over 400 prophecies and still counting……The day he was crusified HE fulfilled 33 { that most know about ! } ……. if we take just 8 of them and calculate the odds, the probabilities are 1 in 100000000000000000 that would be like covering the state of Texas two feet deep in silver dollers ,marking one and then have a blind person sellect that marked doller the first time, Given the fact that these prophecies where in print long before HIS birth,……. this fraction of evidance { as there is much,much, more } is indisputable…, and therefor the only logical conclusion is that JESUS is the truth………may I ask what suports your theory ????
Joyce,
Do you not realize that by practicing witchcraft, you make your allegiance with the very devil? Your soul is in danger, and Satan has deceived you. Your happiness is not real. Please Joy pick up the Bible learn about Jesus. The Lord Christ has allowed em to see (all Glory goes to Jesus) the very demons you worship. Unless you repent, you will spend an eternity in pain and misery.
Jesus Christ died on the cross, rose, and will come again soon to judge every single one on earth. There is no goddess. There is only God Our Messiah.
2 Kings 21:6 And he burned his son as an offering and used fortune-telling and omens and dealt with mediums and with necromancers. He did much evil in the sight of the Lord, provoking him to anger.
Galatians 5:20-21 Idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
It is written: Romans 14:11 “‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, ‘every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God.'”
Greeting Gloria
The devil or the satan as you call it and the hell, is a christian concept..in my faith there is no such being or place.your book isnt the only book, the only path.If your faith gives you comfort and peace, I am happy for you!!:).
It isnt for me to knock it, its your path to walk and no one can do that for you!
We do not proselyte, does this mean that my faith is better than yours or yours better than mine? nope. There are many different faiths in the world and so much to learn from each other without the ” my faith is right and yours is wrong stuff”….The people are getting real tired of it! I wont knock your faith, I am center, content, happy and at peace in mine:). Every day and deep in my heart I thank the Lord and Lady for the path I walk! I finally have peace and joy! Ohh Gloria it isnt your place to decide how real is my happiness :). I and I alone decide that and it is as I stated!:)
Blessed be!
Gloria:)
Wicca is witchcraft. It’s is satanic. You are praising false gods, and demons, they surround you, possess you, and are in your home. Nothing good happens from evil. I feel sorry for you because unless you open your eyes Joyce, unless you realize Christ is what saves, then your soul is damned.
1 Chronicles 10:13-14 So Saul died for his breach of faith. He broke faith with the Lord in that he did not keep the command of the Lord, and also consulted a medium, seeking guidance. He did not seek guidance from the Lord. Therefore the Lord put him to death and turned the kingdom over to David the son of Jesse.
Greeting Gloria,
Dont feel sorry for me, I dont need it! I love my God and Goddess and there isnt anything false about them. Demons?? I dont worship them nor do we relate to them, thats your thing.My eyes are open, can I say the same for you? I respect your faith or whichever one you worship, yet you have this need to down mine..there are many truths and your arent the only one nor the only way..Its like your way or no way, nothing else matters
..reality check..yours isnt the only way, yours isnt the last word, your truths isnt the only one, yours isnt the only path to the center, The Gods and Goddesses of old were and is here way before your Christ walked Mother Earth..And yes I respect him also, which is more than I can say you have for mine! Is your mind open for learning , or is it closed? This is one reason for alot of hardship and sadness ” Intolerance”..
Wicca and Witchcraft are different…this is why I said you should read up! You have Pagans in Wicca who isnt in Witchcraft and you have some who are..nothing wrong with either! Its their choice or will!
My perspective is different from yours on this and I am okay with it:). Wicca is a living faith that is always evolving and growing and yes as I stated before I am happy with my path and I am sooo not interested in converting anyone, soo not our way. You can disagree with me and my path and its okay with me!!!!I
In some christian faith and a few others, I feel there is this pervasive “culture” in the organized church in which anything outside their dogma is considered evil. The work of the devil, and so on,And they are so happy to try to impress on the minds of others their own opinions as if these were The Law! I believe in the right, the freedom to choose your faith or religion, but I dont agree with spiritual blackmail , extortion nor what I see alot psychological terrorism…Tolerance is a good thing and who knows one day all may seat together at the table and talk, discuss without all the back bitting and fighting for who faith is the right one!! There is no one size fit all , faith or religion is a very deep and personal relationship with the devine/Gods/Christ/? No one has the right to pick for another, its their right to chose for themselves their path!
Ahh we are off topic here, Ivar was discussing something dealing with the pope and bones..I dont have a problem, its their worship..But I do love discussion without all the name calling and such..and yes I can get very very deep..this is truth, my truth!
Blessed Be !Gloria
Opps
Gloria, As I stated before the Satan is a Christian concept not a Wicca nor pagan one..Satanic or those who deal in this kind of worship has nothing to do with Wicca nor witchcraft. they are more Christian, they have alot of christian elements to their worship..yes we learn about the different faiths and where they started from the beginning to present in school!!..soo you can keep your satan, satanic worship and devil being!! we dont have them nor need them.. …I have got to go and finish my paper for my spiritual class which is due next week!!
Blessed Be Gloria!!
Joyce,
I do feel sorry for you, because you have heard the truth, and have hardened your heart against it.
Ephesians 4:18 They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart.
Do you not understand that the god and goddess you worship are satanic demons? They are not the only one TRUE GOD that is JESUS CHRIST.
Matthew 13:14-15 Indeed, in their case the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled that says: “‘You will indeed hear but never understand, and you will indeed see but never perceive. For this people’s heart has grown dull, and with their ears they can barely hear, and their eyes they have closed, lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears and understand with their heart and turn, and I would heal them.’
I worship Jesus Christ, who has saved me from my sins. And I will blantantly tell you the truth, that the lies you believe in, leads you to the very gates of hell. I would rather tell you the truth now, and hope you’ll hear it, rather than placate you and “respect” the satanic lie you believe in. For what kind of Christian would I be, if I let you believe that your way is the right way?
John 12:48 The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day.
Joyce, Jesus Christ is the truth and only one. If you do not believe in him, you will die in your sins. It’s as simple as that.
John 8:24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am [the one I claim to be], you will indeed die in your sins.”
“Your truth” is a lie, and I hope you find this out, before you stand before God. I really do.
Ohh yes and you can keep your demons also, they are yours too!! Not ours, No devil. not satan and noooo demons! All Christian concept, your holy book!! And as far as my home goes, Its is blessed and a happy one, Blessed Be!!!!LOL
Joyce,
I guess there is nothing more I can say to you. You have made your choice. Just as each one of us has a choice to choose Jesus Christ or not.
The Bible is clear as to where you will go, and to all those who do not choose Jesus.
Revelation 21:8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
May Jesus Christ The Only Messiah, touch your heart, so you can see that he is the only way. Amen!
I kindly ask that you not spread your lies on this blog further.
Greeting to all
This is Ivar’s site and for him to do as he pleases, I am not here to knock nor drag down what he nor anyone else for that matter in what they stand for or believe in. I am doing a paper which is due in a week time for one of my classes at my spiritual school and came across this site. One can learn something from all!
Blessed Be!:)
Greeting Gloria
Heard the truth, your truth?? You keep your truth, its whats keeping you going and I will keep mine, its what keeps me going..You have a blessed and wonderful day!! mine is starting off great!!!!
Blessed Be!! Gloria
Greeting Gloria
Not all in Wicca nor paganism deals in witchcraft(you should read up) and if they did there is nothing wrong with doing so! We have our laws, one of them are” Harm none! do what thou will!..No one in Wicca nor any of the other pagan paths are interested in trying to convert anyone! we can care less about that, its the respecting and trying to learn from each other that wholes the caring part. The way you went off with your quotes reminded the “Why” I wouldnt ever, ever go back to that world again! and I am staying right where I am happy! for that thank-you sooo much!!!!!!
Blessed Be!
Gloria, may you find peace and happiness on your path!!