What dose Islam and the Papal religion have in common? More than you probably are aware of.
They both see the Holy Land as occupied by Zionists. Non of them have Jerusalem as the present center of their religion. And they both need to shift their throne of authority to Jerusalem to overcome the Jews.
Islam lack a throne. Muslims basically bows down to worship in front of an empty throne. The Pope has a throne. And the Catholics visiting the Vatican either bow down to kiss the ring of the Fisherman, or fall down on their face and worship him.
Islam has no central leader who can reunite them. Since that Pope already has accepted that Islam is a part of God`s plan to save mankind, Islam will be able to accept the Pope, as the Prince of Peace. Shiite and Sunni Muslims will for the first time stand united and gathered in front of the new universal Papal throne in the Dome of The Rock in Jerusalem.
But the Papal throne must face southwards inside the Dome of the Rock. Towards Mecca. Otherwise, the Muslims will not bow down towards the throne.
What is the Papal throne?
The Papal throne is nothing new to the Roman Church. It was last seen in 1978 with Papa Luciani. Now it back again used by the present Pontiff. Pope John Paul opted not to use a throne and so it sat in storage and then in the Lateran Palace museum until last December of 2006 when it was brought back into papal use. In the Catholic religion the Pope is infallible when he sits on his Papal throne or chair in questions about moral and true understanding of the scripture.
How will the Papal throne be moved from Rome to Jerusalem?
What do you think the Vatican and Islam are talking about when they met for interfaith dialogue?
They have already agreed on the most important issues:
1. The Holy land is occupied by Zionists and need to be liberated.
2. Both Roman Catholicism and Islam is included in Gods plan of saving mankind, since both represent the children of God of Abraham.
3. All religions expresses some truths about God, and needs to be included to make an fulfilled picture of the creator.
4. Jesus is the son of Mary.
5. World peace will first flow out from Jerusalem when the three present main religions are able to live in peace, and come together as one voice and offer God interfaith prayers.
How can Muslim pray in any other direction than Mecca?
Thats a good question. Let me first say that there are still certain issues the two main religions have not entered into agreement about. Thats why they keep on their dialogue .
But the challenges linked to your question has been solved. In 2006, the Pope entered into the Blue Mosque in Istanbul. There he joined his Muslim brethren in prayer. Some Catholics say the Pontiff only mediated, but thats beside my point. The head of the Vatican religion prayed or meditated in the direction of Mecca, with Muslims who prayed in the name of Allah.
When the Papal throne is moved to Jerusalem, the Muslim will pray in the direction of both the Papal throne and Mecca. Than there should be no longer any problems for Muslims and Catholics to pray together.
And where will they pray together?
And where will they pray together?
Do you think The Pope in May entered the Temple Mount to go for a stroll to the watch the beautiful view? It was both a display of new Catholic-Muslim unity, and a chance to debate the last practical solutions before a final agreement can be reached.
Questions like this still has to be answered and agreed up on:
How do we best move to renovate the Dome of The Rock without upsetting the Government of Israel?
Where are the Mullas and were are the Cardinals going to stand during the prayer service?
What shall be the level of the Papal throne? Shall it stand on the floor, or should it be elevated?
And in which name will they pray together?
They will probably officially pray to Allah in the name of «Jesus son of Mary». For the sake of World peace, both sides will be willing to compromise. In their view there is only one God, and how you pronounce his name is not so important. In specially now, when peace and universal brotherhood is at stake. Even the Iranian President Ahmadinejad believe in the return of Jesus. He will return and tell Christians and Jews to tell them to turn towards Allah.
How will they agree to make the Pope the new leader of the new Universal religion of all faiths lead to the same God?
Thats the easiest question to answer. Just like in the day of Elijah. He will call down fire from Heaven
Revelation: 13:13
«And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men».
Even Muslims understands who is the boss when fire comes down from Heaven. Than its all game, set and match. The final antichrist has no come to Jerusalem to enter into God`s temple.
The next Pope might be this powerful fellow, in whose footsteps will follow miracles and signs. People who can call down fire from Heaven, will exalt them self and the followers of signs and wonders will exalt him.
2 Thessalonians 2:4
«He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God».
How do we know that you are not a false prophet?
Only God knows. Time will tell. My job was to give you some in-sight, so you will not so easily start to walk into deception.
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The Antichrist has many scriptures to fulfill and ALL must be to the “t”. According to the scriptures a false prophet can speak things of the future that come to pass precisely yet leads you away from Torah-the teachings and commandments.
The situation and conditions of antichrist will be appear when THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST IS NEAR (Matthew 24:15, 21,RSV, and 2 Thessalonians 2 :8).
Without Christ and the Holy Spirit of God,they are Blinded.This is fulfilling end times prophecy acording to the Word of God.The Catholic leader Benedict,calls himself Most Holy Father God,the pope..Only God gets that name,They bow to him & worship him kissing his ring,he carries the title *sp Vicarious Filli Dei(Christ in the flesh)(Roman numerals = #666;Now ask yourselves..according to the Word of God..who seeks worship?who thinks they are as God??I believe he is the false prophet in the unholy trinity.All the ones without Christ are folled,deceived and Blinded to the scriptures.Last days are right on us.2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
They’ve taken away the DIVINITY of Christ….They’ve surrendered ”JESUS” for what; this means no CRUCIFIXION took place,if ”JESUS” WAS JUST THE SON OF MARY AND JESUS IS NOT GOD……..This has a lot to answer for
the most fascinating rubbish i’ve read.
Dear Suantak.
At least it was fascinating…
May the Spirit of the lord continue to use you inhis ministry in Jesus name Amen!
Dear Emeka.
Shalom, and return to sender: May Jesus keep on blessing you. Amen.
Somebody needs to get a life.
Dear Jason.
Shalom, and welcome to this site.
Jesus is life. He is the truth. He will reign over Jacob from the beginning to the end. He is coming back to Jerusalem to bring an end to the final anti-Messiah, the lawless one. Than all of Israel shall be saved. Amen.
my wife and father are papists,I have persuaded my sister to worship God
Dear Christopher.
Shalom, and welcome to this site.
I will pray that all your family shall find the saving grace of Jesus of Nazareth, and leave the wicked and corrupt religious system of Rome.
amen
God Bless you ivarfjeld,for all the prayers sent up for all believers and non believers.Jesus is the only way to the father,John 14:6 and he is the true living savior.May God Bless and looking forward to meeting you in the rapture.watch the eastern sky and listen for the trumpet sound of Gabriel…
The Catholic Church was started by Jesus Christ – you protestants would not have a Bible were it not for the Catholic Church. The Great Apostasy was predicted in Scripture to come at some time. The last five ‘popes’ are non Catholics and actually agents of Judaeo/masonry/communism that the powers of this world conspired for centuries to supplant the true pope (Cardinal Giuseppe Siri who was elected in 1958 and again when Jew Montini took the ‘throne’ as Paul 6) to put their man in the chair so that he would be marching according to their satanic gospel while having the power of the keys. The Keys to Heaven were given to St. Peter and his true successors ALONE. No protestant sect has the power of the keys, the Holy Eucharist or anything else that makes Biblical sense. You also have the devil’s own hatred for the new Ark of the Covenant – the Blessed Virgin – the mother of the person who claim to worship as God – or are you a Jehovah’s witness on this site and also think that Jesus Christ is not God? Also, looking at your pro Judaic stance, are you one of the many protesant sects that have signed on with the apostate Vatican into telling the Jews that Christ is Not the Messiah and that they are ok to wait for another – i.e. Antichrist? The presbyterians, baptists and John Hagee certainly have.
No Catholic “bows down and worships’ the pope but we respect him as having the promise of the Holy Ghost to lead the TRUE CHURCH in truth and to protect it in the matter of Faith and Morals from error. The protestant sects are full of differences in dogma and doctrine, yet the ONLY thing they are united in the ‘faith’ on is hatred of Catholics, most of the Sacraments established BY the apostles (where the heck do you people think those came from? The “Orthodox” also have them – the only other ANCIENT Christian sect – except for Gnostic heretics – are you one of those?), and the Blessed Virgin whom Christ Himself gave to His followers to be THEIR MOTHER – “woman behold THY SON – SON, Behold Thy Mother”) Good grief.
Moira G.
Shalom.
I never get tired of answering Catholics who present a falsification of Church history. Because I love Catholics, and would like to see them repenting, and being saved.
That the RCC is the oldest surviving church, the Church who gave us the Bible, etc, is not the truth.
The oldest surviving Church is the Thomas Church in Kerala in India. This Church was formed around 50-60 A.D, and is still there. The Thomas Churches pre-dates the Roman Catholic Church by 400 years, and was never under the Papacy in Rome. The Church split after the Catholic invasion of the Indian Ocean in 1498 A.D, some Churches forced in under the Papacy. There are still Thomas Christian Churches that rejects the Bishop of Rome.
In a similar way, the Assyrian Church of the East was formed before the Roman Empire claimed the end to Paganism, and installed a Pope in the capital of paganism. Neither did this church accept the papacy.
The first believers were Jews, Messianic baptists that baptized people with full immersion. Such believers were massacred by the anti-Christ in Rome. They have never submitted to the falsehood of the Italian papa, and they are still around. Gentile baptists carry on the legacy of true Christianity all over the World. The gates of Hell shall not prevail against this Church. Amen.
The Church was started by Jesus Christ. The Roman state cult claiming to be the Church was started by Roman emperor Constantine over 300 years later.
wow, I am so so so sorry that are able to quote one verse that does not mean what you think it means. If you would read the whole New Testament, and Old testament alike, you will notice that the center of all is GOD, is Jesus, is the Holy Spirit. Do you imagine a throne in Heaven and on the Throne someone else rather then GOD? that’s what the devil tried to do Isaiah 14 – Ezekiel 28 – Or do you imagine anyone else but Jesus on the right end of the Father? since 1 Timothy 2:5 says there is only one God and only one mediator between God and men, the Man Jesus. No excuses, that is the truth, one verse that does not say anything will not make you right. really, do you really think that whenever you pray to God in a Congregation He can hear every one? if you do, you are right, because God is omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent. Ops! do you think angels could do that? do you think that any of the saint could do that? really, if you pray to Sain Paul, could he come down from heaven, listen to you and to another 100 people at the same time? what about praying to Mary? do you really really think that he could hear all those who pray the “Hail Mary” at the same time on Sunday morning? like, 100 thousand, 200 thousand people. what if the pope is in tv and prays the Hail Mary and all the audience prays to her? let’s say 1 million people, do you REALLY THINK that a woman could really listen carefully to all those people at the same time and BE with all those people at the same time, to whom Jesus also said “Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.” besides that he once said “Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.” Matthew 12″ .
You see, whenever you believe that you make her omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent. That’s God, therefore you have been committing spiritual adultery leaving the Great God and Savior Jesus Christ for a Created being (Romans 1).
Then allow me to tell you, do you know that if anyone is found committing acts of pedophilia will be immediately arrested? does that really happen among the priests that do that? do you really close your years when hear that many priests, which are not married, touch women and kids having sex with them and are totally protected by the Vatican? are you saying that the pope protects the morals of WHO?
Very interesting…
I have a question, I have recently been leaning toward the historicist point of veiw that the Popes of rome are the seat of the real and true Antichrist. But I also lean toward some futurist veiws of a future man of sin setting his throne on the temple mount.
Could I be right in suggesting that the Papal throne is about to change to not only the Vicar of Christianity but the Vicar of all world religions, mainly of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam…
Dear Adam.
Shalom, and thanks for this comment.
You are right.
The Pope of Rome has for hundreds of year`s, tried to rally Christianity behind his claimed superiority over this religion. About one billion of them do. But a couple of hundred of million Christians refuse to accept the Pope as a Christian, and says the Catholics are idol worshipers.
The Vatican also has a policy of rallying all religions behind the Pope. Catholic means universal. That all faith leads to the same God. All the world religion will finally rally behind one Universal global leader. So fare, the Pope is the best candidate. At the end of time, only Bible faithful Christians will keep on saying with men like Martin Luther and John Calvin: The Pope of Rome is an anti-Messiah.
I totally agree with you and want to thank you for being unafraid to speak the truth that God has shown you.
Shalom, and may God bless you.
Have you ever heard of Maitreya?
The new age version of the messiah…
If so could someone like this take the Papal throne?
Dear Adam.
I have also worked with New Agers. I was surprised to see plenty of them revere « Jesus». But only as another «Vishnu baba», a miracle man that works in a Spiritual realm with many Messiah`s. Thats the same Spirit that will reign and unite people on a Global scale in the end time religion.
So are you saying that you believe that a Pope will fullfill Daniel 9:27?
I have heard others say that it was actually Jesus who fullfilled this. That he is the one who confirmed the new covenant and that he caused sacrifice and offering to cease with his own sacrifice. And that it was the abominations of the religious leaders that caused desolation. I have studied both veiws and have not come to a conclusion on what I believe yet.
Thank you in advance for your thoughts, I’m just looking for better understanding of the scriptures…
Dear Adam.
Daniel 9:27
He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.
Matthew 24:15
“So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand.
In my view its the Dome of the Rock that is the abomination. The Muslims put an end to Jewish sacrifices and offering in and around the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.
The «He» is the false prophet Muhammad and his followers.
The debate of what this verses really means has been going on for 2.000 years. I might be wrong on this.
The Papal chair inside the Dome of the Rock will be the seat of the final anti-Messiah. Than amazingly, the true Messiah will come and sit down in this chair.
Islam and Rome will finally merge in Jerusalem, enforced by a false peace. Both in Biblical symbolism and the new one Universal Faith religion.
Dear Adam.
The idea that Jesus put an end to sacrifice and offering in the Temple, can in my view not be correct. Because this kind of sacrifice and offerings continued after Jesus had died on the cross for another 40 years.
That these sacrifice and offerings now had become valueless, thats another issue.
It was the Romans who put an end to sacrifice and offerings in the Temple, when the temple was destroyed in 70. A.D.
Even though the Temple was gone, and the Jews scattered, there was still a remnant of them left in Jerusalem. They could still perform their religious rituals in the rubble of the Temple.
First after the Muslims closed the Temple Mount, the final end came to the Jewish sacrifice and offerings on this site. That happened just before the World entered the year 1000 A.D.
When the Catholic crusaders occupied Jerusalem, they banned Jews from re-starting their offerings and sacrifice. The Mosques and the Dome of the Rock at the Temple Mount was still closed for Jews. Muslims or Catholics. To the Jews it hardly made any difference.
Dear ivarfjeld,
Jesus did put an end to the sacrifices in the “midst” of the week, in 31 A.D. Solid and thorough mathmatical computations have proven without a shadow of a doubt that Christ was baptized and anointed in 27 A.D., was crucified in 31 A.D., and Stephen was stoned in 34 A.D. when the gospel went out to the gentiles. The “1 week” being spoken about is from 27 A.D. to 34 A.D. Christ died in 31 A.D., right smack in the center. I challenge anyone to refute these dates, and if you and I get our calculators out, I promise you will lose. I’ve been through this before. The Lunar Calendar reckoning is a huge farce.
When Christ died in the midst of the week, he said “it is FINISHED!”. Meaning, all the value of the sacrifices had come to a cease. The phraseology in Daniel 9:27 “he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease” does not mean that Christ must make the sacrifices from physically going on. While they were “finished” in value and spiritual meaning, of course, the Jews didn’t listen. The proof that there are still sacrifices going on today proves without a shadow of a doubt the argument that the sacrifices must physically cease in 31 A.D. in order for it to apply does not work. The “causing of the sacrifices and oblations to cease” was talking about not just the sacrifices in the temple, but in the whole world! There are Jews still performing sacrifices. But they have still ceased! In value! In spiritual meaning! They have no value! That’s how it ceases.
Lastly, you are ignoring “cause” and “effect”. While Christ “caused” the sacrifices and oblation to cease in the “midst” of the week, you could say that the “effect” did not materialize until 70 A.D. During those 40 years of sacrifices in the Temple, they meant absolutely nothing. They had ceased in spiritual significance.
So my invitation to you ivarfjeld, is to abandon your position that Christ’s sacrifice could not have fulfilled the prophecy.
Remember, it was Christ that declared the Temple and Jerusalem to be destroyed. He pronounced its doom when looking on the hill-top! Matthew 23:37,38. These verses perfectly line up with the last phrase in verse 27: “and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”
It was Christ that declared the Temple to be spiritually desolate! And that what Christ determined it was poured out on that which He declared spiritually desolate. Also, nowhere does it say that the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem must be within the 70 weeks time frame. The phrase “even until” denotes this reality.
Dear Ivarfjeld,
I understand that there is a great deal of confusion about this passage. However, you seem like a scholar.
Acts 21:18-25
18 On the following day Paul went in with us to James, and all the elders were present.
19 When he had greeted them, he told in detail those things which God had done among the Gentiles through his ministry.
20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord. And they said to him, “You see, brother, how many myriads of Jews there are who have believed, and they are all zealous for the law (of Moses);
21 but they have been informed about you that you teach all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake (the Laws of) Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children nor to walk according to the customs.
22 What then? The assembly must certainly meet, for they will hear that you have come.
23 Therefore do what we tell you: We have four men who have taken a (Nazirite) vow (reference Numbers Six).
24 Take them and be purified with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads, and that all may know that those things of which they were informed concerning you are nothing, but that you yourself also walk orderly and keep the Law (of Moses).
NKJV
The Nazirite Vow (Numbers Six) is the only vow in Scripture which requires one to shave one’s head at the completion of it.
If we read this passage carefully, James told Paul to go with four men who were separating their Nazirite Vows, in order to prove to all of the people that he ‘also walked orderly, keeping the Law.’
I have a full study on this topic on the Nazarene Israel website, if you like. Or I would be happy to email it to you.
Norman
what?do you know how GOD works or the mind of Lord,look at history God does not settle his accounts the same DAY.He is slow to anger………………thank God
the issue is simply one of adhering to a text-centered grammatical, contextual approach. The alternative, the ispensational approach that separates the 70th week from the previous 69 has no logical, linguistic or contextual justification. It is based on pseudepigrapha & Jesuit inventions.
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Dear Denver Goe.
Happy new year, and welcome to this site. I am sure your comment is meant to be a blessing.
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Dear Wael
Thanks for this comment. I visited your site, and did not understand much what its all about. But, anyhow. Read more about Jesus the Messiah and be blessed.
Just to be clear… Muslims will always pray and bow down to one and only Allah and will always consider ISSA or JEASES(Peace be upon him)as a true PROPHET of Allah.
Dear Peace
Shalom, and welcome to this site.
You are right. Muslims consider`s Issa (Jesus) as a prophet of Allah. But «doers» of the Bible, consider Him to be the creator who came down from our Father in Heaven. Jesus is God the Son. If you do not believe Jesus has the power to forgive your sins, and that He is the only One who can do so, you will surely perish.
Isa ,unfortunately for you, is not the true Jesus. and since muslims claim to believe the words of the prophets, why not seek out the meaning of Gen 3:15 ?
Dear Friend,
I believe this site has serious errors in place regarding the Pope. Firstly, I want to comment on the robed men laying flat on the floor in St. Peter’s Basilica. These are not bishops, these are men being ordained into the priesthood. Nor are they worshipping the Pope (For that would be idolatry) and no such thing occurs in the Church. What is going on here is that the priest is worshipping Almighty God and is submitting to His Holy Will. It is a beautiful sign that priests are servants of God and His people.
God Bless,
Andrew
Dear Andrew.
Shalom, and welcome to this site.
I have changed the picture-text on you guideline. Now, it is written priests, not bishops.
When priests turns Bishops, their are back in Rome. This time not laying on the floor in front of the Pope, but kissing the gold ring on his finger. The Ring of the Fisherman, with an idol of a man thay claim is a Jew called Peter.
If the priest were not worshiping the pope, I guess they could have faced the other direction? Or maybe had their heads towards the sun, or in the direction of the door or window?
When churches have an “altar call”, people kneel at the front, often facing the pastor too. I don’t believe that you would say they are worshipping the pastor! They are submitting to go!
Congratulations Adrew, well said. Let’s trust God the Almighty, that all those ‘artists’ will clear their eyes and minds and beging from anew as Easter Time is aproaching. God bless you and others as well.
You celebrate the feast of Ishtar? Are you aware that it is pagan?
I am Roman Catholic and want to make it clear that absolutely NO ONE worhsips the Pope.(or the saints or the Blessed Virgiin Mary, for that matter) Worhsip is for GOD alone!!! To think otherwise is ludicrous!
The photos of the priests on their bellies in St Peter’s is one in which they worhsip the GOD-MAN, Jesus, present in the Tabernacle,the (normally gold) box which is in every catholic church, present under the form of Bread enclosed in the Tabernacle, but it is really HIS Precious BODY and the priests are prostrate before HIM, the GOD-MAN. The Pope just happens to be, or maybe he’s not even there, on the altar nearby. That posture is typical of when priests are ordained to become priests. The Pope is just the Vicar of Christ, St Peter’s successor, just a man! ONLY GOD IS WORSHIPPED!!! Christ established His Holy Church (on St Peter) and is the heavenly Head of the Church and St Peter’s succesor is the earthly head of the Church, all believers. Please understand this and change your thinking about the throne with the Pope being worthy of worship. IT IS NOT!! LOVE GOD with all your heart and you will be given grace and Heaven.
Dear Reba
Shalom, and welcome to this site.
Jesus Son of God is not present in a golden box in Rome. Jesus the Messiah is presently at His throne in Heaven.
Every child above five can see that the priests worship the Pope, facing the Pontiff, and swearing an oath to be faithful to him. It is strange that you cant see this. That you believe the pope by default just appear´s in front of the clergy.
If you are right, the Pope could have been sitting behind the back of the priest, or may be he should have been laying on the floor together with the priests, and not sitting on the Papal throne?
Please read: https://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2010/02/21/bible-studies-41-why-the-catholic-eucharist-is-sin-and-idol-worship/
Reba,
I admire how you defend your religion but without doing some research on others comments will only keep you locked up in darkness from now to eternity. When you defend the Catholic church you are defending the devil himself.
God has given us His intelligence to dig for the truth so here is some interesting info that will help you see the truth. Check here in sequence to get a good understanding.
NEW WORLD ORDER.THE DEVIL IN THE VATICAN!!-The Vatican Archives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLp9xigjajM&feature=PlayList&p=5B080BA7C52ED41E&index=0&playnext=1 -1/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICc4pxx_mDg&feature=PlayList&p=5B080BA7C52ED41E&index=1 -2/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDB5bIX4ndY&feature=PlayList&p=5B080BA7C52ED41E&index=2 -3/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0mqUqc_RcY&feature=PlayList&p=5B080BA7C52ED41E&index=3 -4 –Pope John Paul II, the deceiver, – shocking news of who he is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVayBG7eJvU&feature=PlayList&p=5B080BA7C52ED41E&index=4 – 5/Pope John Paul’s apparition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnZcIoqpDYU&feature=PlayList&p=5B080BA7C52ED41E&index=5 – 6/John Paul II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ7YqEJ1Kxs&feature=PlayList&p=5B080BA7C52ED41E&index=6 – 7/ Revelation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF9y8REL840&feature=PlayList&p=5B080BA7C52ED41E&index=7 – 8/ The 7th day changed by the Harlot
There’s a lot more but this is good for the time being.
May the Lord enlighten you.
Dear Reba, I was reading your message and just want to know if you heard about the term born again. in the Bible read the Godpel of John chapter 3 and there Jesus said unless you are born again, you cannot enter the Kingdom of God.
you cannot love God unless you are born again. there is lots to learn. i was a catholic till i found out at 39years old that i needed Jesus to be my Lord and Savior. but it also says no one cometh to the Father but through Me.(Jesus) so i hope you can understand, e-mail me if you like. thank you for reading this.i have too many miracles to speak off. but Jesus is so real that you have to know the difference when you are bornagain..there is a very simple prayer to say called the sinners prayer. then you will have peace. God’s peace that surpassess all understanding. that is when you know that you are saved. and you can love others with His love. which is called aggape love. hope my spelling is right. i am now 68 since 1981 i was born again. and i will never forget it. the Holy Spirit comes and lives in our heart. Jesus promised that He would send the Holy Spirit who is the comforter. and that is where we are at. it says that Jesus when He arose He now sits at the right hand of the Father.
Dear Reba.
you said he was the Vicar of Christ, Not Peter.
If he was the vicar of Peter, then it would mean he was stnding in the place of Peter. But he stands as the Vicar of Christ. “THE ONE IN THE PLACE OF CHRIST” so he being a man who stands in the Place of God. If Not. Then he should change his Vicar title, to the “Vicar of PETER” Not christ. But he won’t. In his BIG HAT is written. Vicarius Filii Dei. in the place of Christ. he forgives sins, Only God can forgive sins. and if anyone tries to use the scripture in John 20:23. it’s talking of Baptism. Not man forgiving sins. John 20:23 is attached to ACT’s 2:38, acts chapter 8. acts chapter 10. thanks Gary.
Hello reba,.where it is written the the pope is the head??…but what is written that the ONLY HEAD we have is The MESSIAH or Hamaschiach…& also yes Messiah established the Assembly/kahal in hebrew but NOT the roman church..who, brings the member of this church into Idolatry, worshipping Maria and the little tammus /jesus WHICH NOTHING TO DO of the END time spoken in the Scripture or bible..they make the people of this church BLIND for whats going on ,in this Chaos world today….you have to research yourself the secret agenda of this so called “church”. you are jusT belong in the OUTER CIRCLE. May Elohim(God) open your understanding of His word..Shalom
Reba: your atempt to hide what is obvious, is pitiful. Catholic churches are all full of statues and paints, in front of which, catholics knee and pray to them. Catholics prefer to pray to the “mother of God”… does not ring it in your head? You probably pray to Mary, and to all the saints, leaving in secondary place Jesus Christ, the Saviour of the World. Catholics not even read the Bible, or if they read it, they cannot understand, for they are blinded, and they, in truth have already the Mark of the Beast: The Crescent moon.
ok, no problem, you are not worshiping any of those things, just bowing down before them, right?
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God.
#4 might not be familiar to you if you are using a catholic bible, as it has been deleted
I like your exposition!!! I agree fairly good on what you had shown in here. I had done my research for several years and this is my conclusions.
Matthew 24:15
“So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand.”
This already happened AND will also happen again!!! Double fulfillment is typical of bible prophecy. Antiochus Epiphanes did put the abomination in the temple, the statue of Jupiter (read book of Maccabees). The statue of Jupiter happens to be the same statue that the Catholic church claims is the statue of St. Peter. The statue of St. Peter was taken off the Pagan Pantheon. All other idols were destroyed but not that one cause it was the main one God for pagan romans AND was made of Silver and brass, too valuable to be wasted. So they broke off the hand of Jupiter holding the lighting bolt and replaced it with the keys of the gates of heaven hold by St. Peter.
The Pope is the Son of Perdition, NOT THE ANTI-CHRIST. The Man of Lawlessness will be destroyed with the rest of the sinners at Christ’s comming but the beast will NOT be destroyed but thrown ALIVE in the lake of fire.
Compare 2 Thessalonians 2:8 with Revelation 19:21
It is disturbing for some to learn that the Pope is the Son of Lawlessness (“The law was nailed at the cross!”) Is NOT the Anti-Christ.
The Bible CLEARLY says that the Man of Lawlessness (The Son of Perdition) does miracles and sits in the “throne of God” pretending to be like God but he will be destroyed, with the comming of Christ and the Holy Spirit of Christ that comes out of His mouth. Not casted alive but destroyed with the Sword of Christ. Notice that it is NOT the beast but “THE REMNANT” are destroyed with the power of the Holy Spirit SAME as the Man of Lawlessness, no escape from that logic.
Revelation 19:21 “And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth”
2 Thessalonians 2:8 “The Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming”
Put them together and you get the following:
The Man of Lawlessness shall be slain, destroyed and consumed with the sword of Christ, the spirit of His mouth that proceeded out of his mouth.
The Beast has a different ending: “And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.”
Revelations 19:20
No mouth proceeding spiritual sword in here!!!
iavrfjeld said “If you do not believe Jesus has the power to forgive your sins, and that He is the only One who can do so, you will surely perish.”
Demons also believe and know.
It is not about knowing or believing but TRUSTING !!!
IF Jesus is the Messiah THEN you will ….. what?
If you believe that Jesus is in fact the Messiah then He must be the son of God, and therefore you will know that HE is the LORD, and you will treat him as such. If you believe He is the lord the you will TRUST in him. Cause He has direct contact with God the father.
Do you trust that He will bring you back alive on the last day?
If you do not keep His commandments is because you do not Trust in him and therefore you do not “Love” him.
ivarfjeld; You are doing a great service to the Lord!
Reba, I was catholic and the error in that church is just awful. I worshiped Mary that’s what we were taught. What about Fatima That is awful the mother of Jesus would never put herself above her son. I use to think if I worked hard enough I would see her. I call that satan as an angle of light. The Catholic church changed because they had to. People are reading there Bibles, but there still lies there. Be ware and read your bible that priest told me I would never understand
Dear Sandra.
Shalom, and love in Jesus the Messiah. We can only love the Catholics by telling them the truth. There is only one way to Heaven, and that is Jesus our Master. No one besides Him, and surely no on above. Since we have direct access to our Father through Him, let us pray to Him in His name. To go through someone else, is a sin.
Thank you ivarfjeld. I wish that the Catholic’s would at least check out the Bible. God Bless in Jesus.
Shalom Ivarfjeld,
Keep sharing the truth that YAHSHUA ha MASHIAKH is GOD, SAVIOUR and MESSIAH. Only through HIM and HIM only people can only be saved (John 3: 16, John 14: 6).
Remember the TORAH, HOLY DAYS and HOLY FEASTS and SABBATH every day of our life.
Praise YAH. HaleluYAH
Dear Agi.
Shalom, and thanks for this comment. Yes we have to remember the Torah, and use the Law of Moses as a important reference for our Holy life. But without grace and mercy, no one can escape the wrath of God. Jesus the Messiah, regardless of how we spell his name, has payed in full for my sins. I deserved to hang on that cross. He took my place, and set me free. With His own blood He saved a wreck like me. Amen.
when do open our eyes to see that this gentile world are about to rebuild babel?
They have been at it for the last 50 years, at least.
The grammer in the article is weak… and it lacks something, ANY credible source. You claim the RCC and Islam in their talks have agreed on a list of things but you weren’t at the meeting and cite not source as to what they talked about. You make leaps in your logic, and then stoop to sophmoric name calling by calling the pope, who I am no fan of mind you, the “Fisherman.” You are probably very popular with the literalist crowd who wants to stand on the roof tops and cry out… but I imagine it will become much harder to teach Catholics about Yehoshua and Torah after people like you come along and deliberately profane the things they consider holy. They might not be holy… but since they see these things as holy they see you profane them. And when that happens, their ears will shut to anything but Catholicism and YOU might become part of why some people never come out.”
Dear Ken.
Shalom, and thanks for this comment. Really, its reflective and a warning to me.
I know my grammar is weak. English is not my first language. In regards to the RCC, the Catholic needs to be shaken a bit. Many claimed to be Christian`s is silent about the unsaved souls that consider the pope their «Holy Father». Its not my job to save them. Only The Holy Spirit can do that. My job is to tell them the truth, even when it hurts.
Ivan, your English is just fine. Please continue with the good work.
Hello All,
There will be two beasts! One is a political figure and the other is discribed as the false prophet in Rev 13.
The first beast will be a man possessed by the king of the abyss who will be released by Satan when God gives him the key to the bottomless pit. This you can read in Rev. 9.
Now the second beast that comes forth from the earth in my opinion will be possessed by Satan himself as indicated in Rev 13. He gives his authority to the beast and has two horns like a lamb, but speaks like a dragon. Of course we all know that Satan is called the dragon. He has been cursed by God as indicated in Gen. 3 in that he would be as a serpent, licking the dust of the earth.
As this false prophet he will command all of the world to worship the first beast, which of course means the world will be worshipping him because he has given the first beast his authority.
Same as when we worship Jesus Christ, we also worship God the Father because He has given Yeshua His authority.
As far as the pope being this false prophet, all indications seem to point to him being so. In 1991 all the world’s major religions, and this includes the Illuminati, choose the pope to be the one who heads them all as we venture towards Satan dream of his NEW World Order. See the article archives at http://www.cuttingedge.com for more info on that subject.
Bless You All As Gods Prophetic Word continues to be fulfilled.
So, you make quite a claim without sourcing anything. This is a really wild claim at that, especially since RCC and Islam are still at odds, in a big way with each other. This pope has made quite a few remarks dissing Islam, so it doesn’t seem like they’d be in talks over anything (as if Islam has some sort of organized hierarchy, like the RCC does).
Then you claim that because people are laying on their faces towards the pope while worshiping Christ, they are really worshiping the Pope. Does that mean when I am in my room on my face worshiping God, and I happen to be in the general direction of my bed, or a wall, or maybe the next room where my sister is, that I am actually worshiping those things?
I grow tired of all this ” ‘so and so’ is the anti-christ’ talk. If you spent just as half as much energy on simply reflecting on who God truly is, then you wouldn’t really care about the Anti-Christ. I don’t concern myself with these things, because I know there are many anti-christs living among us, and my objective is to praise God despite that, and show those people the Truth of Him.
Shalom,
Great comments. We will all see soon. One thing we were just reading in Daniel (at the very end) it talks about the abomination of desolation, which is what STOPS the DAILY sacrifices.
We don’t have those yet … that’s what I would be looking for next. Once the daily sacrifices begin, so does the countdown.
Barb
Dear Barbara D.
Shalom, and welcome to this site.
I have to humble my self in front of Jesus. The Papal Throne has not been shifted to Jerusalem, not yet. But the Vatican has many times tried to control Jerusalem, and was working against a Jewish homecoming to the Mountains of Zion. The Pope wanted the city sealed as an International Zone in 1948, when the United Kingdom gave up its occupation.
Rome and Islam is promoting Jerusalem as the city of all faiths, and call the Jewish control of the city as an illegal occupation.
http://www.Avenueoflight.com to answer your question Barbara
http://avenueoflight.com/2011/03/1054/
The “ABOMINATION” THAT “DESOLATES”!
http://avenueoflight.com/2010/10/15/
I know of those who claim to be Jew’s and are not but are the synogag of satan .hmmmmmm Sounds like the Catholic church to me and have found them to be false <<<< YES hAIL mARY fool of grace ?Prayer and denying it that they pray to her and she is god's mother ?
beside the mooeslims they claim Adam was muslim ?
yes the coran was written in herabic but still you need the chinse to translate it to chinise and people from Mexico cant read herabic unless they read the coran in spanish ?
Dear James.
Shalom.
There is a lot of legalistic people around, who distort the message of Jesus crucified and resurrected. One of the is the sect King James Only. They believe that the English Bible translation from around 1610 A.D is the only ultimate correct words of God of the Bible.
I once asked one of them: Did Jesus (Or Yeshua), or whatever way you are able to pronounce His name, really speak English to the fishermen He called to be His first students?
I will fail to understand the the Chinese translation of the Bible. But a God that can speak directly to an an-alphabet gypsy, can surely correct any spelling problems in Chinese. The truth is always revealed by the Holy Spirit, and all corrections in our life are done by Him.
On your may 4th comment: Did Jesus (Or Yeshua), or whatever way you are able to pronounce His name, really speak English to the fishermen He called to be His first students?
This comment shows ignorance (unlearned).. Untill the complete translation into english for the people only the catholic priests had access to the Word of God. They made alot of money and did not want the people knowing the truth. Have you ever read the letters the translators wrote? It used to be in the King James Bible. Man removed it. Do you know how many were beheaded and burnt at the stake and tortured for giving we the people Father’s word? Father does not leave us without tools. Have you not heard of a man by the name of Strong? God used this man to write what is called the Exhaustive Strongs concordance. This is a hebrew and Greek dictionary. The creator of all expects us to seek the truth and He has given us the material. I can definetly tell you know little of the Hebrew or Greek language. These are the last days. Becareful. In His service
I have often wondered hat if the pope is the false prophet and an evangelical the anti messiah?
As the compromising unity talks are the same for leaders in the groups ECT=Evangelicals and Catholics Together.
Something more to ponder?
Or the other way around??
Or might an Evangelical be the man of Lawlessness or the pope?
Seems to me that a good way to avoid being caught up in this false messiah and catholic nonsense we’ve inherited from Constantine and co, is to start getting used to referring to the true Messiah by the same name His virgin mum Miriam was instructed to give Him, ie Yahoshua (or Yeshua for short) which is Hebrew for ‘Yah’s (or God’s) Salvation. There are many Jesus’. Take for example Oprah’s Jesus who channeled ‘A course in miracles) into Helen Schucman… not a very kosher Jesus. On the other hand, there is only one Yeshua ben David. Even unbelieving Jews know exactly who one is referring to. The name Yeshua is the same name that was given to Hoshea son of nun after ‘God’ showed Moses that he would lead the children of Israel into the promised land. It should be easy to draw a prophetic parallel between that promised land and the promised land Yeshua ben david hamashiach will lead His faithful remnant to.
Christendom is fast heading for the ‘falling away’ of 2Thes2v3. The main reason for this is false teaching or leaven introduced by catholic church fathers that came to be known in our time as replacement theology. A little leaven leavens the lump.
I say, amen- It is not like we are not told in scripture how things would happen in the great falling away, and as G-d warned what he had against each chruch in first part of Rev. I started listening to the HOLY SPIRT that the bible says, will lead us into all truth. If only people would read G-d’s Word and not all the pulpits of the world who are mens thots , taking away and twisting or adding to HIS word. G-d says they are cursed. now the last false church coming together led by the RC.. for anyone to think they are saved by a church is so false. It is only the personal relationship with Christ. all true Christians who remember their Jewish Roots and then see all these false teaching come into play. after the vatican put their flay with the plo in Israel, I read in news how now the vatican wants it off their. I get concerned how so many as the pope for forgiveness..when only Yeshua can do that when we ask ..so all these many people think they are saved and forgiven by the pope forever..NO …just that they even call the pope the HOLY FATHER ..is pure blasphemy… I notice that the cresent of Islam is on the RC, Mormons an Islamic worship places. the four horses of Rev. one, Communism, then Capitalism and the the Catholicism and last Islam ..the first pale house is the color of pale in arab is pale green..Rev six seven eight and 12 brings it our that we are in the very last days as all the naiions around Israel in the first time in history is going to explode into the full world war 3..I appreciated the remarks here on this subject.. so sad that so many choose false teachings. they think we hate them but we love them and are trying to love them into truth shalom
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What about the name fortold by Isaiah, Immanuel?
Dear Sherry.
Shalom and love in Jesus.
Immanuel means “God with us”. The Messiah is fully God eternally. God took on flesh, and became human. Fully God and fully man. Unique. All copies of the Messiah, have this in common. They do not qualify to be Messiah accoding to the Word of God. You can call Him Christ, Jesus, Yeshua, or whatever. It will not help you, of you have not surredered to truth, God of the Bible.
Whoever wrote this, certainly wasted his time, the Holy father would never compromise. As a Catholic I believe the charity for muslims till it hurts, nobody can call him/herself a Christian if he/she does not love his fellow man including muslims. Dialogue is important, dialogue for better relations, dialogue for the defence of human life, dialogue for a better future even praying together as individuals. However it is obvious that this dialogue does not mean a watering down or compromise of the truth. There are things that unite Jews, Christians and Muslims but there are yet a lot of things that we disagree on for instance, Jesus as the last, full and final revelation of God, Jesus is the Way, Truth and life, the true understanding of who Jesus is as God and man and not what the feeble arguments of the late Ahmad deedat and disciples misrepresented or the bad theology of many christians including some priests who were badly taught in seminaries, with a lack of philosophy and apologetics. Islam has much to learn from Christianity or as they say the previous revelation. Islam should obey The Quran in sura 10:94, Muslims should learn the authentic Christian teachings found in the Catholic Church and from good knowledgable Catholic Christians. Saudi Arabia will not open a church in that country till the church accepts muhammad as a prophet. Well I guess that there will not be one any time soon but I believe that there will be churches in Saudi Arabia soon God willing. May the Lord open the hearts of my muslim brothers and sisters who I love very much and respect and come to the full knowledge of the truth of Christ. God Bless.
Dear John Mark.
Shalom, and welcome to this site.
You wrote:
Whoever wrote this, certainly wasted his time, the Holy father would never compromise.
My reply:
The problem is that the Catholics have compromised on the gospel it self, and will obviously corrupt all who listen to them.
The use of the tittle “Holy Father” on the Pope, is the worst of all blasphemies from the Vatican.
Jesus exclusively uses this tittle for God, our Father in Heaven.
John 17:11
I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name—the name you gave me—so that they may be one as we are one.
To quote from the Bible correctly, will never be a waste of time. Than the Holy Spirit will back you up.
John Mark:
Obviously you, as GOOD catholic, has forgotten or never read what Saint Paul says in Galatians 1:8: “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.”
But you, and the catholic pope to begin with, do not obey the Wholly Scriptures of the Bible.
Therefore, how could you accept some other false religion or credo? Because it “sounds good and righteous”?
Again, read Proverbs 14:12: “There is a way which seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death.”
The only way for muslims to convert to Jesus Christ is by telling them the Good News of the Bible, NOT to join them in their false religion; and by the way, read the Bible yourself: May God Almighty open your eyes, and be saved in Christ Jesus.
Holy Scriptures, not Wholly Scriptures.
*sigh* I googled the move of the “throne” to Israel and the only thing I found on it was this article…Which leads me to believe you just made the whole thing up. Sources please? Not that all of this is wrong, but one outright lie just pissed me off enough that I will demand you remove it. The picture caption “Papal priests worshiping the Pontiff in the Papal throne in Rome”. We do not worship the pope. *headdesk* Those men were not bowing down TO the pope. They are being ordained as priests in that picture. Priests, when they are ordained, lay flat on the ground because that is as low as they can go before GOD. It is the ultimate sign of humility before Jesus in their taking up their crosses to follow him; to tend his sheep, to feed his flock, to endure slander from people like you, etc etc. The reason why the pope would by happenstance be in front of them is because…He is ordaining them! This is common knowledge. You have no excuse.
Dear Jeanne
Your being ‘pissed off’ is a natural result of having been deceived by the manipulative forces at work within any ‘religion’ that has added to or subtracted from the Word that became flesh. Christendom is not alone in this. Even the Jews (with their immense evidence of the truth) were blinded during the time of the Gentiles (diaspora) in order that the good news might go to the nations. It is only recently, thanks partly to the information age and mostly to the work of Ruach Hokodesh, that enough light has been shed on Torah truth and it’s original prophetic, Messianic intent, for us to start becoming aware of the importance of interpreting scripture from a Hebraic perspective rather than the standard western, platonic, materialist mindset we’ve become so accustomed to. I’m not going to start quoting examples here. A little prayerful research will soon reveal what I am talking about
When we engage one another for the sake of truth, it is important that we do so in the correct spirit. What is called for here is humility and willingness to learn of the new season YHVH (‘God, Jesus’) is showing us, now that the diaspora is over. If it’s difficult to believe that He is doing a new thing just bear in mind that if it had been common knowledge prior to the ‘crucifixion’ that ‘Jesus’ had to die on our behalf, Satan would never have allowed Him to die on the tree. Father reveals things when the time is right.
The time is now right that we should start to comprehend that He promised to restore Israel, that Israel, whom He married under Sinai, then divorced because of her infidelity and then redeemed as her Redeemer Kinsman, is about to be married again … this time for ever. It is time for gentile believer to start thinking the way Ruth did when Naomi told her to lie at the feet of her kinsman redeemer.
It is time to cast off the mantle of paganism and Israel replacement theology that we inherited from church fathers like Luther and Constantine. I’m not saying that ‘God’ didn’t use them. It’s thanks to them that we the ‘foolish (lawless) nation’ mentioned in Deuteronomy 32 were able to grasp something of His goodness, mercy and grace. It is time, now that we have access to the truth about Israel, to stop being a foolish (Torahless) nation of gentiles … to accept that we are invited to take up our inheritance in Abraham and participate in the blessing that is being restored to the tents of Jacob (Israel)
So try not to be offended by the truths being revealed at this time. It really is an exciting time to be alive. We are that generation Yeshua said would not ‘pass till all these things be fulfilled’
Dear Peter.
Shalom, and welcome back with a fresh comment.
I sometimes feel that there is no hope for Roman Catholics. There is no end of this wicked,religious and very corrupt claimed to be “Christian” system.
Simply because God of the Bible curses the children of adults who hates Him.
I have encountered dozens of Catholic youth, who are forced to attend Catholic mas, after the Holy Spirit has revealed to them that the mas it self in a sin. The papist parents put a curse on their own Children.
Well, you can understand how a little error can lead to false beliefs. to support the truth, needs verifiable evidence. There were 12 popes named Pius, 13 named Leo, 16 named Gregory, 14 named Benedict (some were antipopes… 14… check the records) 21 popes named John (again, count from the record) 6 named Paul, and 2 named John Paul. And when all their numbers are added up, it equals 665. It is the “eighth” and final pope that will complete the count to 666, and that will be the next “pope” “Antichrist” and “Satan” who will place his throne in the “side of the north” (facing south). Benedict XVI will soon become an antipope, like Benedict X became an antipope before him.
The pope is the head of the Great Whore.
The final supreme “beast” and his 10 king buddies will destroy the Great Whore.
No way the pope would destroy his own body.
Sources? Nope. Ignoring anything resembling logic? Yup. I notice that in two posts you won’t even touch what I have to say to you. The obvious sign of someone who will not engage because he knows he won’t win. That should tell you something.
Dear Jeanne6x
Shalom.
The Bishop of Rome has ruled in Jerusalem before, and he has order brothers who works for the return of Jerusalem to the Pontiff. Let me remind you that the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem is the claimed to be caretaker of the Mother Church. The Church was not formed in Rome.
The Vatican never recognized the state of Israel in 1948, neither the liberation of Jerusalem in 1967. First in 1994, the Vatican accepted Israel as a state. But the Vatican flag was hoisted in Jerusalem during all kinds of Islamic occupation. One day the Bishop of Rome shall be elevated as the Bishop of the World. On that day he will sit on his throne in Jerusalem.
Here is some links to the topic.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,795047,00.html
http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2009/01/let-pope-preside-over-jerusalem.html
http://www.freeman.org/m_online/apr97/blech.htm
Source one: “In England, the Manchester Guardian reported that the Axis powers plan to turn Palestine over to the jurisdiction of the Vatican…” I.E. The Nazis wanted to get rid of the Jews and hand them off to the Catholics who they hated just as much…Big surprise. Nothing about the pope wanting to take over Israel.
Source two: Well, we can’t have peace, that be terrible. Why would any Christian want that? Again, YOU talk of the pope taking the place over. Your own SOURCE says he was invited to be a mediator by both parties. And it isn’t even a news source, just another guy’s blog…
Last one… Are you serious?
Question: Say I wanted to prove to you that the world will end immediately. If I find a random guy on the internet that says he knows the world will end in 22 minutes because the banana tree spirits told him, can I credit him as a source?
Dear Jeanne6x
Shalom.
You are not honest. I did not say this was three sources. I said here are three links to the topic. The Topic is a open book. Thousand years of Papal claims to the Holy land.
Which is why they have all lived in Rome…Except for a few who lived in France for a while, until they got told off and when back to Rome.
And you have my apologies for mistaking your links for sources after I’ve asked you for sources. Twice.
Dear Jeanne6x.
Shalom.
When you apologize, you are forgiven. All sins were paid for 2.000 years ago on the cross at Calvary Hill.
As I already said. The sources lies in Papal orders.
Read this, and let me know
https://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/order-of-malta-you-have-to-give-us-back-the-holy-land/
Yeah, I’m really not going to read any more of your crap. And you still have not removed that outrageous caption. Leaving it up simply proves you (in a more obvious fashion) to be a liar. No sources, because there aren’t any. No remission of anything false. No apologies. You really are a piece of work.
Jeanne6x,
I pray that God opens your heart to the truth. I took a little stroll over to your blog, and you said: What kind of God would doom billions of people to hell just for a ignorance that they have little to no control over?
Jesus is clear in the bible. Serve him or serve Satan. There is no black and white. You cannot curse, drink, on a daily basis and then think oh because I am mostly a good person I will go to heaven. NO. That is a lie from the devil himself, and he takes great joy in confusing people like you. Read the bibe. ASK GOD TO OPEN UP YOUR HEART.
Galatians 6
Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that naturea will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.
Well said Gloria!
Some things don’t have to be in black and white. I can’t prove to you Jeanne that I have received salvation and I can’t prove to you that the Holy Spirit exists … but I could introduce you to thousands of good, sane, saved people who through the work of the Holy Spirit believe that Catholicism (the white horseman) is dead on course to partner with the beast of Revelations. I strongly recommend that you receive some Messianic instruction (Mat 13:52 Then He said to them, Therefore every scribe who is instructed to the kingdom of Heaven is like a man who is a householder, who brings out things new and old out of his treasure) Yeshua’s fulfilled Torah gives one the correct perspective of the renewed covenant.
Here’s last night’s poem. It called “Be Grafted In”
The ‘Bride of Christ’ is a gentile concubine
steeped in traditions of popes and men
but only till she comes to know
the goodliness of Israel’s tents
and there lays herself down
at the feet of Meshiakh
as did the role model, Ruth of Moab
who lay at the feet of Boaz
her Kinsman Redeemer
There’ll be no Gentile gate
in the new Jerusalem
Pitching up pregnant with papal leaven
especially that scary ‘freedom from Torah’
might work for pagan nations
but it’s surely not set apart
in the way of Y’shua, the God
of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob
who suggests we overcome this world
as He’s overcome our enemy…
completely
We can clearly see things playing out right before our eyes here. This is a very interesting Article that is needed to be viewed.
Oh dear oh dear. Where will this end? The Pope has nothing to do in Jerusalem in his office. Jerusalem belongs first and foremost to God and the Jewish people
greets Hulda
Great write up and full of insight. Keep it up and remain blessed.
I would like to recieve more of this posts
This in order to clear up the error somewhere up there regarding why Y’shua cried out “It is finished”
The Passover lamb was taken to the Temple for four days for a specific purpose: it was to be kept under close observation. Why? The Passover lamb had to be a spotless lamb. Around 50 separate tests were performed to insure the lamb’s purity. On the fourteenth day of the month of Nisan, after the lamb was officially declared to be pure and free from defect, it was placed upon the altar at 9:00 AM. The lamb remained until 3:00 PM in the afternoon. At that time, the High Priest took a knife and slit the throat of the lamb and said “IT IS FINISHED”. After the death of the lamb, it was taken and then thrust on a vertical pole. A horizontal pole was transfixed on this pole and the lamb was layed out on it so that its skin could be flayed. The skin on its back was removed to ensure one thing: that it was as pure on the inside as it was on the outside. The heart of the lamb was removed and all the blood was drained from it. In all of this exercise, not one bone of the lamb was broken.
The problem with error is that it tends to contaminate what ever else one has written. “A little leaven leavens the lump”
Dear Peter, what an insight, I love the word of God and daily meditate on it, but this I did not know. i knew the lamb had to be spotless, but the details are something you stunned me with. Truly the NT fulfils what the OT said and did, thank you loads, God Bless you with abundant wisdom…….Amen
The invariable malady in Religion is the institution becomes the deity; a result of Man’s condition.
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My views at about this moving from Rome to Jerusalem are not very supporting. I believe the from part of the Pope is truly about religious harmony, while on other hand the Muslims will never do this from their heart. If they are agreed to do this, that means they must have a hidden political agenda behind this move. Which possible could be to get rid of Jews this way. Because one they are succeeded to send the Jews out of Jerusalem, later it will be very easy to force Christians to leave Jerusalem systematically and in the end Jerusalem will be conquered by Muslims without any resistance.
So, better keep the Jerusalem under the Jews control until the Christians are not willing by themselves to defend their lands and themselves.
Dear Tony Samuel.
Shalom, and welcome to this site.
It is important to acknowledge that the Pope has ruled in Jerusalem before. The city and parts of Israel was a Catholic Kingdom from 1099 A.D to 1291 A.D. After the Pope lost Jerusalem, his knights have tried to retake the city.
Few people are aware that the Pope do have a throne in Jerusalem already. This Papal Chair of the Bishop of Rome was placed in the Latino Quarter of the Old City in Jerusalem, during the Popes visit to Israel in 2009. One day this throne only has to be shifted 700 meters up on the Temple Mount, and the “Holy Father” has entered the temple to be worshiped. The Dome of the Rock in perfect. This is not a Mosque, as many people mistakenly say. The Al-Aqsa Mosque is placed at the southern end of the Temple Mount.
If you look at the top of the Dome of the Rock, it does not bear the Islamic symbol of the Crescent moon. It holds a full circle, and reminds me about the host of the Catholic Eucharist. These two symbols are already present in the Eucharist, and in Jerusalem they will merge at the Temple Mount it self.
Something to reflect on.
What absolute non-sense. Priests, deacons and bishops in the Roman Catholic Church portray themselves before God while the Litany of the Saints is sung immediately before a bishop or bishop lay their hands on their heads to say the ordination prayer which make them priests, deacons or bishops; prayers which are also addressed to God. You obviously know nothing about the Catholic liturgy you are commenting on and your knowledge of the Scriptures is just as ignorant and preposterous as your comments on the Catholic liturgy.
Arvid,
The bible says that in the last days there will be many scoffers.
2 Peter 3:3-4, “Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.”
The Vatican is still one of the richest organisations in the world (if not the richest)
Read what it says at http://www.messianichallofshame.com/zwolves.html concerning making profits at the expense of God’s sheep.
Luther tried … The reformation failed … God won’t fail
http://soulrefuge.org/2010/10/21/roman-catholicism-and-the-anatomy-of-seduction/
http://www.mosquitonet.com/~prewett/
Dear Friends,
Every time I read such posts of personal interest, and every time I think of our wonderful Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (Yeshua or Y’shua or JAH-shua Mashiach) and what He did for all of us, I’m brought to tears of joy and gratitude, realizing that none of us could ever give our lives to ransom others’ souls. As a combat vet, I was willing to give my physical life for people I hardly knew, but never to ransom souls. So now I’ve purposed in my heart that I will live my life for Yeshua. Simultaneously, I’ve recognized late in life that most of us are going to be faced with this same choice in coming times that few are willing to believe or address from prophetic Scripture, that is, perhaps giving our lives for the cause of Jesus Christ.
Comments by subject matter:
1. Who will the Antichrist personality be?
Revelation 17:10, 11 gives us specifics from Holy Writ itself, my comments in brackets: “There are also seven kings (heads of state in today’s times). Five have fallen (died, been killed at the time of these events); one is (alive, the sixth), and the other (the seventh) has not yet come (on the scene, into office or power or has not yet assumed his office, the seventh). And when he comes (on the scene or into office, this seventh king), he must continue a short time (meaning he, too, may die). The beast that was (alive), and is not (alive due to his head wound, then revived to life), is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.”
(Edited, and made short). Editor.
Dear Ron.
Please write short messages, and comment on one topic at the time. You are free to make many comments.
Sorry, but following such stringent rules is one major way Christians get “Off track” in theology and doctrines. Your editing the most important cogent facts from my post, after spending hours of time to write it tells me you have little interest in truth, but some administrative rule is more important.
I’ll not waste any more of my time discussing or contributing to those who prefer “form over substance.”
Ron White
Der Ron.
Shalom.
It is not “substance” to write messages of 500 lines, that no one reads. Please feel free to join a debate with short messages. You are always welcome.
HERE LIES THE ANSWER TO THE 8 “HEADS”….
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to see what The “ABOMINATION THAT “DESOLATES”! IS.
Matthew 24:15 Daniel 11:45
Dear brother in Jesus,
God says, “I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times. what is still to come!…What I have said, that will I bring about; what I have planned that will I do!” Isaiah 46:10a, 11b This Bible study compares all the Scripture on each End-time topic and exposes over 12 absolute contradictions of God’s Word by dangerous and deceptive pre-trib doctrines. The next Bible study shows the 7 Bible clues which positively reveals the identity of 666. And then there is a Bible study which shows how Obama may qualify to be the very deceptive False Prophet of 666.
Would greatly appreciate any comments or Bible studies you may have on the Last Days.
Your eternal friend in Jesus,
Richard
Editor. (This message is Shortened).
Dear Richard. Please make small comments, and do comment whenever you want.
SHOCKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But how can every Muslim in the world pray in both the direction of both the Papal Throne AND the Kaaba? Muslims pray from all over the world five times a day, you can’t expect them all to line up in a single line such that they pray towards both areas. And as for those who are actually in Mecca performing their pilgrimage they pray towards the Kaaba, 360 degrees all around.
Romans 1:18-23
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known of God is revealed in them, for God revealed it to them.
For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse.
Because, knowing God, they didn’t glorify him as God, neither gave thanks, but became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and traded the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed animals, and creeping things.
All of them our of the devil and satanic sun worshippers of BAAL in the bible they also worship the queen of heaven which goes all the way back to tower of Babel and Babylon as well.Roman pedophiles and homosexual Sodom and Gehmorah worship!
Muslims also worship the sun as well also of devil!
The Catholic faith is not the Islamic faith – period. Please read history.
The Catholic Church is the original Christian Church from which all of Christianity springs forth. Whether you profess Orthodox or Protestant forms of Christianity, you cannot dismiss this fact.
Similarly, the Jewish faith is the roots of the Catholic faith. Jesus and the disciples were Jews. This is another historic fact. Yes, the word “Catholic” means “Universal”, however, it does not mean “Universal” in the sense that it encompasses all manners of faith. It means Universal in terms of the Universal Church of Christ. For the first 1000 years after Christ’s death and resurrection there was only 1 Church of Chirst and it was for all intets and purposes the 1 Universal Church of Christ. The first Schism within this Church was a political one, not a doctrinal one. The split in the Universal Church resulted in the politicla division of the Latin Catholic Church and the Orthodox Byzatine Catholic Church. Both of these Churches retained the true Essenses of histroic and Apostolic Catholicism. The Latin political Church is headed by the Pope – the Bishop of Rome, while the Orthodox Byzantine Church is headed by the Orthodox Patriarchs.
The next big schisms in Christianity occurred 500 years later with the European Protestent Reformation, or known as just “The Reformation” by adherents.
This schism was the first theological and doctrinal schism within the Church. The proponents of The Reformation did not merely deny the headship of Christ’s Church, but they denied and redefined several important doctrinal positions held by Christianity up to that time.
The divisions caused by The Reformation were much more serious in nature; the fruits of which have further fractured Christ’s Church into now innumerable “Christian Churches”. The most egregious error is that Reformers hold the Bible above the oral and written Christian Tradition passed down by the Apostles. They hold the ironic view that the Bible Alone holds the full truth about Christ and Christianity when in fact, it is the Christian Tradition (which includes the finalized form of the Holy Bible given to the Universal Christian Church by the leaders of the Catholic Church) that holds the fullness of the Christian faith.
In any case, the writers here seem to want to forget historosity and truth in favor of selective imagery and memory in order to advance their personal agendas.
Observer II,
Your Comment: The Catholic faith is not the Islamic faith – period. Please read history.
My Comment: Ivar has posted many articles where the catholics-the pope himelf is kissing the Quran. If that is not a unity- then I don’t know what is. And it isn’t history you should read, it’s current events. But a simple search on Ivar’s blog will suffice.
Your Comment: They hold the ironic view that the Bible Alone holds the full truth about Christ and Christianity when in fact, it is the Christian Tradition (which includes the finalized form of the Holy Bible given to the Universal Christian Church by the leaders of the Catholic Church) that holds the fullness of the Christian faith.
My Comment: The Holy Word of God is the whole truth, and the only truth. What you write about catholic holding any truth is an outright lie, and is completely against what Jesus Christ said.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Acts 4:12 “Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name given under heaven by which we must be saved.”
John 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Ephesians 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation– having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise.
You are defending your catholic faith, which is completely not what Jesus Christ stood and stands for today. Read the Word of God, with a clear mind and you will see that God’s word is the complete truth.
Dear Observer II.
The Islamic faith does indeed have its roots in the Catholic faith. Please read “The Roman-Islamic Beast”, starting at:
http://www.nazareneisrael.org/Study/TheChristianIslamicBeastBookbyChapters/RomeandIslam.aspx
The .pdf’s have illustrations that help.
Ivar there is no doubt deception within the Catholic church. My heart has been heavy ever since you proclaimed your opinion that 1 billion Catholics may not go heaven due to worshipping false idols. I just cant help but think that a large portion of Catholics living in third world countries are undeducated and they have never been introduced to scripture that may conflict with catholic practices. Many know nothing outside of the Catholic church. I just can’t imagine God sending those individuals to hell. You mentioned english is not your first language do you mind if I ask where you are from and what language you speak?
Richard,
Jesus Christ is a fair and just God. There will be no excuse for anyone on not ever having heard the true Word of God.
Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Amen
On the one hand, you will have millions of Catholics that will “get out of Babylon” but on the other, you will have multitudes of other Protestants who will be in the same boat; they will need to “get out of Babylon — the great” Most of evangelicals are falling into the same errors as the Catholics. The “remnant” of all who leave their fallen churches, will resemble the original Jewish more than any other. Follow God through the ancient Hewbrew Sanctuary. God will finish His Mediation soon.
Dear Ralph.
Shalom.
To claim to be a Catholic, a Protestant or a Jew, will not save anyone. Only Jesus saves. You are either a slave of sin, or you are a slave of His righteousness.
To make Jesus your Master, your have to renounce your friendship with the World. Very few people are willing to do that. The multitudes will give multiple reasons, for why they were not able to Obey Him.
Those who try to save their life, shall loose everything. But those who are willing to follow Him, shall gain everything.
The Kingdom of Heaven is the opposite of the Kingdoms of this World. Where the smallest one, will be the greatest. Where the poor man has become rich, and where the proud will not not be able to enter. Non of us deserve to be saved by Jesus. We can not buy, win or purchase our salvation.
He is salvation. He is the gate. He is the good shepherd. He is the truth. And outside of Him, there will be everlasting darkness and pain.
Jesus is the Word that became flesh. Feed your self with this bread of life, and obey. Do not become corrupt, and let wisdom of men rule your life. Jesus is always right. The Word of God is infallible. Amen.
Dear Richard.
Shalom.
I live in a Catholic society, and half of my family are Roman Catholics. So I do know quite a lot about the Vatican Church. This blog exposes a man much above average interested in finding the deep secrets of the Pope and his Church.
In the Third Word, there are many not educated people. This is also the epic center of witch craft, and all kind of paganism and idol worship. Ignorance can not save them either. The Bible says: My people (the Jews) perish because of lack of knowledge.
If people who do not know Jesus could be saved, Christian mission is the biggest crime of history.
The Kingdom of Heaven has a narrow gate. Only a few will make it through this gate. Thousand’s of years of paganism and rejection of the Word of God, have had deep impact on many cultures that is beyond repair.
I have written that One billion “Catholics” will not make it to the Kingdom of Heaven. A proper definition of a “Catholic” is one who know what this word means.
Who is a “Catholic?”
If you refuse to believe that the Pope is an infallible “Holy Father”, are you than a “Catholic?”.
If you refuse to bow down to idols, and pray the rosary to the Queen of Heaven, are you still a “Catholic?”.
Richard.
This is a complicated issue. The best thing we can say about people who claim to be “Catholics”, is that there is a total teaching Chaos withing this Religious movement.
I know we disagree about the fallen angel theory of Matthew 24.37 “as in the days of noah” but I have long suspected that fallen angels are deep with in the vatican today.
Again I’m not disagreeing with what you have to say about the catholic church I guess I’m just saddened to think about the number of lost souls.
Ivar do you believe in predeterminism according to Ephesisans 1.3-6? Do you think christians were predetermined to be christian by God before they were even in the womb?
Dear Richard.
Shalom.
Ephesians 1:4-6
For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will.
These are verses that explain the election of the Jewish people. Their election was decided before the foundation of the World.
Paul explains this sonship in the letter to the Romans.
Romans 9:4
the people of Israel. Theirs is the adoption to sonship; theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises.
(end of scripture).
All men are in principle cursed because of sin. Why the Father draws some people closes to Jesus, and others end up rejecting Him, is a puzzle we do not fully understand. Parents do curse their own children, by their rejection of Jesus. Sin moves down the generational line, as explained in Exodus 20.
God is omniscience. That means He knows everything, from A to Z. He knows who will Obey Him, and who will end up in Hell.
We do not know. That is the basic for Christian mission. Our search for the lost souls, are more His test of us, than a test of those who hear our message. It is Jesus way to test us, if we who believe in Him, obey Him.
Jesus do explain than those who rejects his students, also rejects him.
Not being involved in Christian mission, is a direct rejection of Jesus of Nazareth and His call to follow him.
The above by Observer II is a history promoted by the Catholic church and its apologists. A lot of people just accept it without any investigation. As usual there are two sides to every story and this one has another side as well. Below are two books that show a different history than what is often recited. They can be found and downloaded at Google books. Just search the titles.
History of Romanism by John Dowling
The Papacy It’s Historic Origin and Primitive Relations by Abbe Guettee
There are others as well but these are suggestions to start with.
correct! this is pure Jesuitry at it’s finest… just as the greatest hoax that ameriKa was founded upon CHRISTian principles…NOT!
sadly MOST don’t even know who their real enemies are?
Hint:(Black Pope, Jesuit Order (Illuminati), Freemasonry
Wow, this sounds so underdeveloped and ingnorant!
Francois,
Would you like to extend your answer and tell us why you think so?
Why wont you accept Yeshua(Jesus)
He came, he died, he rose and THEN into the heaven of heavens.
He is coming back, not to tell us to worship false gods, (that would be the antichrist who was foretold) Yeshua is coming again, to take his people home.
John, who writes more of the Spiritual nature of Christ than the other Gospel writers, is the only one mentioning anti-Christ. The problem Today is too many self-proclaimed Christians are looking for signs of anti-Christ, instead of signs of Christ who IS COME in the Flesh already.
We know at the separation of the sheep from the goats, Christ will have already been among us in a human form people did not expect.
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that anti-Christ shall come, even now are there many anti-Christs; whereby we know that it is the last time.
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
But you have an unction from the Holy One, and you know all things.
I have not written unto you because you know not the truth, but because you know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is anti-Christ, that denies the Father and the Son.
Whosoever denies the Son, the same has not the Father: (but) he that acknowledges the Son has the Father also. 1John 2:18-23
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
Hereby you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ IS COME in the flesh is of God:
And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ IS COME in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of anti-Christ, whereof you have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 1John4:1-3
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ IS COME in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an anti-Christ.
2John1:7
Dear Ray Joseph
Shalom, and thanks for this comment.
Once up on a time, there were three Popes in the Roman Catholic Church. Two of them were branded as anti-Popes. They claimed to be THE Pope, but were replacements.
The anti-Christ, will claim to be THE Christ. But he will be a copy-cat. A false Messiah. Jesus warned us that many would come in His name, and deceive even the elect, if possible. And many anti-Christs have already walked on Earth.
Are we today presented with a copy-cat “Jesus” who is not Jesus of the Bible?
Absolutely.
Will his followers reject that Jesus has come in the flesh?
Absolutely.
Jesus according to Rome is not a human. He is born by the Holy Spirit, and a sinless goddess. This Jesus-copy is not born by human parents. Rome completely rejects that Jesus has come in the flesh, rejecting the fact that Jesus did have a human sinner as his mother.
You do not have to look fare to find the anti-Christ. The man next door might be one of his students.
Shalom,ivarfjeld.
To be Pope back then was like being President of the world. The Cardinals and Bishops were like the Cabinet Ministers and CEOs of Today. The Managers of the system as it was then.
The Vatican is the longest continuous government on earth and all modern governments are patterned on that model.
I’m looking forward to watching the new Bravo series on the Borgia Popes debuting Tomorrow. The Borgia’s were original Mafia Crime Family as the adverts say.
In the meantime, you might enjoy reading this in my Blog.
http://ray032.wordpress.com/2011/02/26/the-imperial-pope/
Dear Ray Joseph.
Shalom.
Very few people are aware that the claim to be unbreakable papal succession of the Bishop of Rome was broken for 59 year. That the Pope of Rome threw the beats out, and sent him in exile.
Revelation 13:14
Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived.
This is a link that you might find useful.
https://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2009/12/28/pope-saved-by-mussolini-backed-nazi-germany/
I thought it was interesting to note both the Pope and Ronald Wilson Reagan (666?)both had a wound unto death but still lived in 1981.
I will be writing an article in my Blog soon connecting Revelation 19/11 to 9/11 soon. I hitch hiked from Ottawa to Whitehorse in 1981 to draw attention, symbolically, to the Rider on the White Horse in Revelation 19:11. It was chronicled in many newspapers at the time.
And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men
Revelation? That means people will be able to see it as it’s happening or being revealed. This describes the fire a nuclear missile carries through the air or the heavens. take your pick.
http://ray032.wordpress.com/2011/02/23/from-the-revolutionary-spirit-of-76-to-the-revolutionary-spirit-of-11/
http://ray032.wordpress.com/2011/02/26/the-imperial-pope/
Rev 17 anyone?
Yes, Revelation 17, Just click my name for the link, read all about it how it fits the prophecy.
Fascinating read. It’s not difficult to imagine this happening in the not too distant future.
see the great delusion coming to pass
crosstheborder. org/delusion
this article shows that I am not the only one who sees whats is coming,
MASS DECEPTION:
http://www.crosstheborder.org/delusion/
AMERICA in PROPHECY:
http://www.crosstheborder.org/america/
the GOOD NEWS is:
http://www.crosstheborder.org/greatestprophecy/
The end is indeed near, the next Pope will be named Peter Romanus (Peter the Roman) he will be the last Pope before the return of Jesus.Both the first AND last Pope were and are to be named Peter Romanus.The
last Pope will be the “False Prophet” of the End Times.Jesus the Son of God is about to return at any minute.Are you ready ?
possibly PETER HANS KOLVENBACH? THE JESUIT GENERAL WHO IS CONtrolling THIS WHOLE MIDDLE EASTERN FASCADE!
What a great learning site. This seems to be the only site where people really talk about “The Christ” and give the correct recognition to Our Lord and Saviour.
Please pray for my brother Bobby he is fighting for his life. work kidneys work!!
Rose,
I will be praying for Bobby.
Has Bobby accepted Jesus Christ as his Savior?
Oh Yes, His love of the Lord is great!! and a strange thing that happened is his eyes changed from brown to blue, to me that is strange, hopefully he will make it and may his kidneys start working soon.
Rose
God bless you Rose, I will remember Bobby too.
sueliz1
Thank YOu,
all good words are accepted..May the Grace and Peace of the Lord Christ Jesus be with you, Gloria and Bobby and all people!!
On the science channel last evening, they did a special on The Lost books Of The Bible. Some of these books sound interesting esp. The Book Of Peter, is anyone aware of these books? Are they authintic?
There are no lost books of the Bible. God is in control of His Word. A deeper study will reveal that there are things contained in any alleged “lost book” that kept it out of the collection of those canonized.
Thank You Ralph
For your knowledgeable insight into the so called lost books of the Bible.
Rose,
Please don’t listen to the lies of the history and science channels. The lost books are not scripture.
Thank You Sueliz1
I usually do not but was intrigued by the “lost book” subject. I have found that I don’t agree with most subject material there..
Hilarious stuff! best of all, you don’t let the fact that you understand little about the Catholic faith or about islam stop you from making up stories like this1
Dear Paul.
Shalom.
Inside the Latin Quarters of the Old City of Jerusalem, there is already placed a Papal throne. Did you know that?
When the Pope visited Israel in 2009, He sat on that throne, being the claimed “Holy Father” that had returned to Jerusalem.
The problem with this papal throne (huge chair, for exclusive use by the Pope), is that it is still not placed in God”s temple. Since the Vatican is a fake temple of “god”, the Pope needs to shift his chair to the real temple. That site is the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.
The Pope has controlled this site before. From 1099 A.D to 1291 A.D, the Temple Mount was controlled by the Bishop of Rome and his temple knights. The Pope did not move from Rome to Jerusalem during this reign. The Papal Kingdom of Jerusalem ended without the second coming of Jesus.
Today the Temple Mount is controlled by Islam.
When Islam and the Catholic faith merges into the One World Religion, we will see who will sit on the throne on the Temple Mount. Lets wait and watch.
Thank You Sir
For this article as I was wondering how islam would gain prominance in world religion, now I understand and this article brings prophsey into clearer focus for me.
Rose
Dear Rose.
Shalom, and thanks for this comment.
We will not know for sure who the final man of lawlessness is, before he sits on his throne on the Temple Mount. We do have some real good candidates. The Pope is surely a front runner. The present Pontiff might be to old to perform the great show. The next Bishop of Rome, might be a younger more charismatic fellow. I presume he will be walking in miracles and wonders, in a bid to deceive even the elect, if possible. Just my best guess.
Thy Kingdom Come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.
These people honour me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
Dear Sir:
Do you believe in the Rapture of people of Jesus Christ ( the church ) prior to the end times or the 7 year tribulation? I am not sure. I would guess the Abmonation Of Desolation is when we will know for sure of the antichrist name.
Please forgive my lack of knowledge at this time but it is growing daily. This is a great site for there is no uglyness at ones questions that I have seen which is awesome.
Should a person from another nation learn and honor Jewish Holidays if they believe in Jesus Christ?
Speaking from God as the “First Person the Scripture calls the holy days “My holy Feasts”.
They are “Jewish” only in the sense that the Jews are God’s people. In the New Testament, the believers are “Jews” by adoption. Just follow after the Apostle Paul, who also kept the Feasts (see Acts 17 to 21) Investigate the Quartodeciman Controversy to find out when the Feasts were changed.
Dear Rose.
Shalom.
I am a everyday rapture and everyday persecution preacher. I believe we have to be ready for both, every day. If you take a look at the tsunami in Japan, and apply the situation to your own town, I am sure your would have called it the Great Tribulation. I feel we are already deep inside the end of the age. The problem is that the Global elite and the Global Media do not tell us the truth.
Six million Jews slaughtered in Gas Chambers in Germany was surely felt like the Great Tribulation for those who care about Jews. Millions dying in Africa from wars and starvation, does not care about the theological differences and arguments about just tribulation, or the Great Tribulation.
Be ready for a bumpy ride.
Truth, truth, truth, and then a little error. There were not 6 million Jews slaughtered in the holocaust. It is the Jewish controlled mainstream media that has lied to the world about the number of Jews killed, and they pull this holocaust card to keep on slaughtering the Palestinians who have done nothing against the Jews except to have been born, lived and died there for generations. Do a little research on the number of Jews who died in the holocaust and stop perpetrating the Jewish lies.
Dear Ralph.
Shalom.
Holocaust denial is a punishable crime in nations like Germany and Austria. To deny the Nazi-slaughter of Jews is a common lie spread in the Muslim World. The source of such denial is the Father of all lies, Satan.
I have the privilege to see what kind of website you are promoting. Why do you promote 666beast.net?
Hello Sir:
Yes, if one is dying, like my brother through no fault of his own I would believe its tribulation time for him and at least he is one of Christ Jesus, without that there would be no hope or reason to continue. Thats why those Germans did what they did to the chosen people of GOD. They were blinded by hate(for no reason) by satan.
Hello Sir and thank you:
I do believe the judgement of God is falling upon America right now because of government refusal to help Israel in their time of need by our president. Who is the worst president in history of the world. Can we reverse it, I think it has gone on too long.
the road is already bumpy if it gets much worse then we are really in trouble..
Rose McCutcheon,
The new Jerusalem, the Jerusalem that comes from heaven is the Jerusalem we are to be concerned about. The bride of Christ is the new Jerusalem, the gospel of Jesus. We are all invited, but few are chosen.
Dear Victoria.
Shalom.
You wrote:
The new Jerusalem, the Jerusalem that comes from heaven is the Jerusalem we are to be concerned about. The bride of Christ is the new Jerusalem, the gospel of Jesus. We are all invited, but few are chosen.
My comment:
Those who are not concerned about the present physical Jerusalem, shall not enter the heavenly Jerusalem.
That the New Jerusalem is the Church: Who have told you this?
Please show me a single scripture to back up this doctrine.
I see it the same way, Victoria. Peace.
Our LORD is quite explicit about the temporal Jerusalem as compared to the Spiritual New Jerusalem. Some people don’t believe our LORD makes all things new, clinging to the ways and traditions of the Past.
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you that kills the prophets, and stones them which are sent to you, how often would I have gathered your children together, even as a hen gathers her chickens under her wings, and you would not!
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
For I say to you, You shall not see me henceforth, till you shall say, Blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord.
Matthew 23:37-39
Ray Joseph Cormier,
The peace is in knowing Him more fully. Thank you, and peace back to you.
Your word is Truth.
Victoria, as you know, The peace is in knowing Him more fully. This Peace that passes all understanding begets the Joy of the Lord.
Amen.
Nice to discuss with you.
Ivar,
You said: Those who are not concerned about the present physical Jerusalem, shall not enter the heavenly Jerusalem.
I have been saved by Jesus Christ himself. I have the Spirit of God living inside me. You cannot take me from God’s hand. You should be careful who you think you are condemning. With the measure you use it will be measured to you.
Dear Victoria.
Shalom.
You wrote:
I guess you think that Jesus died for nothing. If earthly land and a people who reject him are to be more valued above even Christ, then you are to be pitied.
My reply:
I am not interested in your private opinions. You have to show me scriptures.
Again I will ask you: Where is it written in the scriptures that the New Heavenly Jerusalem is the Church?
Ivar said: Please show me a single scripture to back up this doctrine.
I guess you think that Jesus died for nothing. If earthly land and a people who reject him are to be more valued above even Christ, then you are to be pitied.
Ivar said: I am not interested in your private opinions. You have to show me scriptures.
Again I will ask you: Where is it written in the scriptures that the New Heavenly Jerusalem is the Church?
I’m not interested in your private opinions either. Who do you think you are that you can condemn people? You think too highly of yourself.
I did not mention the word “Church,” but I guess you really have heard the answer before, or you would not of asked me about the church.
Dear Victoria.
Shalom.
There are some debates that are rather fruitless and gives no glory to the Word of God.
You wrote:
The new Jerusalem, the Jerusalem that comes from heaven is the Jerusalem we are to be concerned about. The bride of Christ is the new Jerusalem, the gospel of Jesus. We are all invited, but few are chosen.
My reply:
Show me one single scripture, that the New Heavenly Jerusalem is “the bride of Christ” (The Church, my remarks), ‘The Gospel of Jesus”.
If you can not show me a single scripture, than this is exactly what I wrote: Your private opinion. I teach the Word of God, and tell people to not pay any attentions to doctrines made by men.
Dear Victoria.
Shalom.
Since you do not want to use scriptures, I will do.
Revelation 12:9-12
One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.” And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel.
(end of scriptures).
It is clearly mentions that this is a HOLY CITY. It has high walls. Even gates. And not so surprisingly. It bypass the Church and Christianity with about thousand years. Because the names of the 12 tribes of Israel is written on them.
Many claimed followers of Jesus, do not even know what a tribe of Israel is. Neither do they know any of their names, nor do they bless and support the tribes that has returned to the earthly Jerusalem. This is one of the problem with replacement theology. Many people who claim to know Jesus, do not know Him at all. They have completely disconnected them selves from the truth.
Christianity who rejects its roots in Judaism, is a false religion. And their “Jesus” who they claim have saved them is an illusion.
Ivar, why don’t you try to explain to all what you think the “Church” is.
Thy Kingdom Come,thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.
8] This people draws nigh to me with their mouth, and honours me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. Matthew 15
Ivar said: Show me one single scripture, that the New Heavenly Jerusalem is “the bride of Christ” (The Church, my remarks), ‘The Gospel of Jesus”.
I did not say that the Church was the new Jerusalem. You suggested that.
Ivar said: If you can not show me a single scripture, than this is exactly what I wrote: Your private opinion. I teach the Word of God, and tell people to not pay any attentions to doctrines made by men.
I wanted you to answer my question before I answer you…because you put things into my comment that I did not say, and because from what you said, it doesn’t sound like you know what the “Church” is. Instead of answering my question, you continue with false judgments.
Don’t accuse me falsely. I do not teach doctrines made by men, maybe you do? Be careful how you judge…it is usually what people are guilty of.
Ivar said: Since you do not want to use scriptures, I will do.
Revelation 12:9-12
One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.” And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel.
(end of scriptures).
It is clearly mentions that this is a HOLY CITY. It has high walls. Even gates. And not so surprisingly. It bypass the Church and Christianity with about thousand years. Because the names of the 12 tribes of Israel is written on them.
Many claimed followers of Jesus, do not even know what a tribe of Israel is. Neither do they know any of their names, nor do they bless and support the tribes that has returned to the earthly Jerusalem. This is one of the problem with replacement theology. Many people who claim to know Jesus, do not know Him at all. They have completely disconnected them selves from the truth.
Christianity who rejects its roots in Judaism, is a false religion. And their “Jesus” who they claim have saved them is an illusion.
I always use scripture. Looks like you found the scripture that tells you exactly what I said—that the bride of Christ is the new Jerusalem. Do you want to apologize now?
From all your false judgments, I’m beginning to think that the perfect word for your belief is “illusion.”
And, you didn’t seem to know that the Church is the body of Christ, so maybe you are the one who doesn’t know Christ at all.
Ivar said: Christianity who rejects its roots in Judaism, is a false religion. And their “Jesus” who they claim have saved them is an illusion.
Ivar, I hope that you are not being deceitful deliberately. You are discussing with someone who does not reject it’s roots in Judaism, so why are you trying to throw this into the conversation? Who have you learned this type of technique of deceit from?
Ivar said: It is clearly mentions that this is a HOLY CITY. It has high walls. Even gates. And not so surprisingly. It bypass the Church and Christianity with about thousand years.
It clearly says that the holy city is the bride of Christ. It is the new Jerusalem from heaven.
And when you talk down about the Church…you talk down about Jesus. The Church is the body of Christ!
Ivar said: It is clearly mentions that this is a HOLY CITY. It has high walls. Even gates. And not so surprisingly. It bypass the Church and Christianity with about thousand years.
Ivar left out about the foundation of the holy city. Ivar, do you want to tell your readers about the foundation of this holy city, the holy city that you say bypasses the Church and Christianity?
I’ll tell your readers.
The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
Revelation 21:14
The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
So Ivar, do you want to repent of your false teachings?
Dear Victoria.
Shalom.
You really have not come to this site to debate issues in regards to faith. You are on this site to quarrel, and the quarrels you start have no end.
It is correct that I did not mentioned the JEWISH apostles who were followers of the JEWISH Messiah.For the first 100 years after the resurrection almost all the followers of Yeshua (Jesus) were JEWS.
What I tried to do, was to point out to the fact, that the Heavenly Jerusalem is a CITY. The name of the CITY is Jerusalem. Also called the Virgin of Zion.
The foundation of this city is Jewish, built by JEWISH King David. It was build by the 12 tribes of Israel, and will forever remain a JEWISH city.
At the end of the age, we will see something great. The eternal city, the Heavenly Jerusalem, will come down from Heaven. The Church will not come down from Heaven. The Church is very much placed on Earth.
To mix the Church and the Heavenly Jerusalem is wrong.
The CHURCH is not made of walls. The Church is built by living stones. The CHURCH is not a CITY, and will never be. Israel is called the Woman who gave birth to the Son in the book of Revelation chapter 12. This woman, the bride of the Lamb, do have a New Covenant to offer pagans living all over the World. People who believe in the JEWISH Messiah have been grafted into this wine, by the MESSIAH.
Do not make me regret that I have permitted you to come back to this site, Victoria. We have had endless debates that have not resulted in anything fruitful. And this one might be the last one you will have with me.
Ivar said: Shalom.
Ivar says “Shalom,” but he does not speak of peace. He speaks of accusations, threats and falseness to me.
Ivar said: You really have not come to this site to debate issues in regards to faith. You are on this site to quarrel, and the quarrels you start have no end.
What you say here is ridiculous.
Ivar said: It is correct that I did not mentioned the JEWISH apostles who were followers of the JEWISH Messiah.For the first 100 years after the resurrection almost all the followers of Yeshua (Jesus) were JEWS.
Why do you keep saying “JEWISH”?
You did not only not mentions the apostles, but you failed to mention their names are on the foundations.
Ivar said: What I tried to do, was to point out to the fact, that the Heavenly Jerusalem is a CITY. The name of the CITY is Jerusalem. Also called the Virgin of Zion. The perfect CITY has walls, and it was surely not build by Christians.
The foundation of this city is Jewish, built by JEWISH King David. It was build by the 12 tribes of Israel, and will forever remain a JEWISH city.
Let’s not hear what you have to say, let’s hear what the Bible says. This is what the Bible says about the foundations:
Revelation 21:14 The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
Ephesians 2:20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone.
Hebrews 11:10 For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God.
Ivar said: At the end of the age, the eternal city will come down from Heaven. The Church will not come down from Heaven. The Church is very much placed on Earth.
The Church is the body of Christ! Who has confused you?
Ivar said: The CHURCH is not made of walls. The Church is built by living stones. The CHURCH is not a CITY, and will never be.
How many times do you have to be told that the Church is the body of Christ?
Ivar said: Israel is called the Woman who gave birth to the Son in the book of Revelation chapter 12. This woman, the bride of the Lamb, do have a New Covenant to offer pagans living all over the World. People who believe in the JEWISH Messiah have been grafted into this wine, by the MESSIAH.
You say Israel is the woman who gave birth to the Son, but then you call her the bride?
Ivar said: Do not make me regret that I have permitted you to come back to this site, Victoria. We have had endless debates that have not resulted in anything fruitful. And this one might be the last one you will have with me.
I only speak what the Word of God says. If you have a problem with me…then you have a problem with the Word of God.
Dear Victoria
Shalom.
You wrote:
Ivar says “Shalom,” but he does not speak of peace. He speaks of accusations, threats and falseness to me.
My comment:
We can not have it this way, Victoria. It is pointless to debate with someone who read disagreements as personal attacks. Please do not inflict your self with such pain as repeatedly coming back to this website. If you feel I am a false teacher, you have made your points. No need for more of this self-inflicted victimization of your self.
Dear Victoria.
Shalom.
Is Israel the bride of Christ?
First, we need to understand that Israel is more than one thing. Israel is a man, Jacob. Second Israel is the 12 tribes of Jacob. Third a nation, the state of Israel.
The New Israel of God, the bride of Jesus, includes the 12 tribes of Israel and the 12 apostles. Those who believe in Yeshua will not neglect the nation of Israel, and work with the children of the devil for the destruction of the only Jewish statehood on Planet Earth.
In regards to the New Heavenly Jerusalem, both the 12 tribes of Israel and the 12 Jewish Apostles are included in this Holy City. Pagans can be grafted into the Jewish faith, by Jesus the Messiah. He came to full fill the Law and the Prophecies, not to replace them, nor to start his own religion.
Please read the full teachings of John, given to enlighten us.
Revelation 21: 9-14.
One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.” And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. There were three gates on the east, three on the north, three on the south and three on the west. The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
Ivar said: Is Israel the bride of Christ?
First, we need to understand that Israel is more than one thing. Israel is a man, Jacob. Second Israel is the 12 tribes of Jacob. Third a nation, the state of Israel.
I know what the Bible says Israel is. Do you know? Can you show me scripture that says what you say here, that “Israel is the bride”? Show scripture to what you say. Otherwise it is your own mixed up and beliefs.
Ivar said: We can not have it this way, Victoria. It is pointless to debate with someone who read disagreements as personal attacks.
I guess you think you can say anything and it will be construed as truth?
You do attack personally, and I can defend my self.
No, I do not deny the holocaust. I deny the inflated figures that the Jews promote and the excuse they use to perpetrate crimes against others on account of having experienced the holocaust. The true figures of the number that died in the holocaust is somewhere between half a million to one and a half million. I should hope that you do not miss the part in my web site that concurs with your wordpress blog here; that the Vatican moves to Jerusalem: http://www.666beast.net/index.html#Line
As for the rest of the website, it is research that I have done that shows that the papal history and prophecy of Revelation agree and align.
Thank you Ralph
I do have German in laws that state the figure of Jewish persons murdered would exceed the Six Million number and too many Americans state the Six Million number, so many try to extinguish the numbers for some reason I don’t understand, it was horrific.
Beware to all who are looking to Jerusalem to be transformed shortly here on earth. I believe it to be the intent of the writer of this blog/article that the Vatican’s move to Jerusalem is by the act of the great Antichrist Satan, in his attempt to deceive the whole world, while impersonating the coming of the Messiah. And when you see the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place, spoken of by Daniel, then the end of the judgment has come, and it is time then to leave the populated areas and seek the most solitary places. The coming the the Messiah to redeem His own will PRECEDE the return of the New Jerusalem to the earth.
Dear all readers.
Shalom.
I have spammed Ralph from 666beast.net. I do not permit Jew hate on this site.
Ivar I applaud your courage you’re like one warrior in a field surrounded by enemies. That must have been one/dream slash vision when God told you to start a blog. You’re a true warrior I applaud your devotion my brother in christ.
Ivar said: Show me one single scripture, that the New Heavenly Jerusalem is “the bride of Christ” (The Church, my remarks), ‘The Gospel of Jesus”.
If you can not show me a single scripture, than this is exactly what I wrote: Your private opinion. I teach the Word of God, and tell people to not pay any attentions to doctrines made by men.
The new Jerusalem is the bride of Christ.
Revelation 21
9 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.” 10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God.
The Church is the body of Christ.
Colossians 1
24 Now I rejoice in what I am suffering for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ’s afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church.
The Humble Beginning of Church cc
So, Simon, did you get the franchise?
Sorry boss, its not for sale … not at any price
But I hung around to suss things out a bit
and guess what? You can’t see it
So its not like it can be copyrighted
We can start our own business
The action is all on Sunday
Not like we thought, on the sabbath
They don’t touch money on the sabbath
So everyone gets together on sunday
to handle the money side
They buy animals then kill them and eat together
Its called tithing. Real weird
At our church, we already meet on sunday
I mean, like we invented SUN day
All we have to do is start charging 10% tax
So what do you think boss?
Can I have a raise?
Ivarfjeld, maybe you should go and join the IDF, gun-toting Jews who reject Yeshua as the Messiah. There are good Jews who accept the Messiah and there are BAD Jews who reject the Messiah, and it appears that you do not know the difference. To say there are bad Jews and his identifying them does not warrant calling Ralph a Jew hater. (I was fortunate to have seen the link before you deleted it)
Dear Jason.
Shalom, and thanks for this comment.
I am a strong supporter of the IDF. There are many Messianic Jews who serve in the IDF. Do you have any problems with that?
There are many Jews who commit atrocities and crimes against the Palestinians living there. They bulldoze their homes and villages for no reason than to oppress them and drive them out of Israel. The Zionist agenda is not God’s.
Dear Jason.
Shalom.
The Zionist agenda is to bring Jews back to Zion, the land of Israel. The Bible is crystal clear. The Jews are the only true caretakers of the land God of the Bible gifted them. The Arab Palestinians are intruders, who have been deceived by the false religion of Islam. They try to destroy Israel.
As I have said before on this site, The Jerusalem here on this earth is wicked and has been for 99% of its history. Paul in Galatians,compares jerusalem here to Mt Sinai of Arabia. Both who are in slavery.The apostle John in the Revelation of Jesus Christ calls Jerusalem, Sodom were they crucified our Lord. These are not positive comparisons regarding the “Holy City”
The emphasis in the new testament by the writers of the New Testament who were Israelites were to look forward to the New Jerusalem. Thats were there are no lawbreakers. Thats were all are circumcised. Circumcision of the heart. Paul said to the Phillipian
believers; Watch out for those dogs, those men who do evil, those mutilators of the flesh. Notice he called Judaizers dogs. This is what Israelites called gentile
sinners. He said ie; Christ said that it is we (believers, Believing Jews and gentiles who are the circumcision,It is we who glory in Christ Jesus,we who worship by the spirit and put no confidence in the flesh. The promises that were spoken to Abraham were also spoken to his seed who is Christ and all who are in Christ are Abrahams seed. Go back to Genesis and read the promises that God made to Abraham and his seed
Those promises apply today to all who are in Christ. We
Who are in Christ are a nation. It is God who makes nations. Abraham Issac and Jacob had sons.They didn’t make a nation. Consider this; If in the New Testament
the present city of Jerusalem was to be of any importance do you not think that Christ would have told us to care about it. He did however teach us to look forward to and long for the Jerusalem that is above. By the way it already exists. Hebrews 12:18
You have not come to a mountainthat can be touched and that is burning with fire; to darkness, gloom and storm
22. But you have come ( not going to come to in the future)to Mount Zion to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the Living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, to the Church of the first born (Jesus)whose names are written in heaven. So you see we are already there in spirit. We worship in spirit and truth. My friends who think that Jerusalem is important today. Remember Jesus said set your affections on things above , not things below. It is amazing that on this site little to no emphasis is given to bless Christ and his elect. But much is given in regards to blessing Israel.If we want blessing from God we need to bless his people. That would be Christ and the elect.And the praeching of the gospel. The reason nations are in a mess is because they are not blessing christ and his elect.
Many Christians go to visit Israel to see the many places that are spoken of in the bible, to walk were Jesus walked. To get some sort of emotional experience that they say is so awesome. They call it the holy land. Think about it. Its an unholy land just like everywhere else in this world. I personally can’t wait to get to my holy land. The Jerusalem, the holy mountain that is above. Just thinking about it awesome.Israelis today have until the time of the full number of gentiles come in to be grafted back in. Romans 11;25 Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of gentiles come in. Until the full number of gentiles come in the israelites still have a chance to be grafted back in thats why All of the elect isrealites will be saved.Show me in scripture were the israelites have another opportunity
than the one they have now to be grafted back in. As long as it is called today they have the opportunity.
Today is the day; Now is the day of salvation
Todd, I don’t know where you are in the world, but reading your comment from the National Capital District of CanaDa, my Spirit rejoices with the Spirit of your letter.
When men try to codify the Free Spirit of God in the letter, they no longer live by the Truth that sets us free.
Our LORD said 2000 years ago, the Time is come when a mountain or the Temple in Jerusalem is not the place of worship of God as John writes.
But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeks such to worship him.
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
The New Jerusalem is a Spiritual Place open to the True Believers Today as Our LORD says, So that where I AM, there you may be also. That’s talking to us in the world.
Out Lord also warns many thinking they are doing the Will of God are not.
The road to destruction is broad and wide and there be many rushing down it. The Way that leads to Eternal Life IS narrow and straight, and there BE few than find it, and we still must grow in the Knowledge of the Spirit of the Living God the Bible talks about within such a great cloud of witnesses thinking they already know everything God knows.
The New Jerusalem is NOT a spiritual place. As Ivar has pointed out from the Word of God, it is an actual city.
Revelation 12:9-12
One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.” And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel.
You, Ray Cormier have tried to confuse people a few times. But I say always adhere to the Word of God, and never to man.
Gloria, as much as you think yourself to be Spiritual, you interpret the scriptures with a carnal, fleshy, materialistic mind. I don’t say this to offend you, but in the Spirit of our LORD who says Blessed are those who are not offended in me. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
“And he carried me away in the Spirit”
The description of the New Jerusalem in the material terms of precious stones and jewels is to convey a Spiritual sense of the Richness of the Glory of God.
You will know that when you receive an invitation to the Marriage Feast of the Lamb while a star struck world is focused on the Royal Wedding.
Ray,
Your Comment: Gloria, as much as you think yourself to be Spiritual, you interpret the scriptures with a carnal, fleshy, materialistic mind. I don’t say this to offend you, but in the Spirit of our LORD who says Blessed are those who are not offended in me
My Comment: I care not what man thinks of me. What’s important to me is my Savior Jesus Christ.
James 1:5 – If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
Your Comment: The description of the New Jerusalem in the material terms of precious stones and jewels is to convey a Spiritual sense of the Richness of the Glory of God.
My Comment: Again, I believe in God, not man.
Gloria,
Ray is speaking the truth—God’s Word.
Dear Victoria.
Shalom.
You wrote:
Gloria. Ray is speaking the truth—God’s Word.
My comment:
This seems to be the day that I will spam two persons that I, under serious doubt, permitted to continue on News That Matters. I have spammed you before, and this time I will not revoke this decision.
Victoria: You support a man who quotes from the Koran on his site, and tries to tell us that the Bible is just a book, not THE book. You are an opportunist and a woman who like to quarrel. You read any kind of disagreements with your points, as a personal attack on you.
Now, when you can get a shoot on Gloria, you do not mind what kind of person you will side with.
Enough of this.
Dear all readers.
Shalom.
I have spammed Victoria for insults without regrets. Please conduct your self with humbleness and respect, in regards to Christians who might disagree with you.
Dear all readers.
Ray has been spammed, just as I promised.
Jude 1:4
For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.
(end of scriptures).
People who claim the Bible and the Koran are equal books, pervert the truth. They deny Jesus as the only way to Heaven.
And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that hears say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
I am happy then, Gloria, you understanding the Spirit of the Word.
Victoria,
It bears repeating.
I believe in Jesus and His Word, not man.
Might I even point out that God goes even further into his description of the New Jerusalem.
Revelation 21
The New Jerusalem, the Bride of the Lamb
15 The angel who talked with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the city, its gates and its walls. 16 The city was laid out like a square, as long as it was wide. He measured the city with the rod and found it to be 12,000 stadia[c] in length, and as wide and high as it is long. 17 The angel measured the wall using human measurement, and it was 144 cubits[d] thick.[e] 18 The wall was made of jasper, and the city of pure gold, as pure as glass. 19 The foundations of the city walls were decorated with every kind of precious stone. The first foundation was jasper, the second sapphire, the third agate, the fourth emerald, 20 the fifth onyx, the sixth ruby, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth turquoise, the eleventh jacinth, and the twelfth amethyst.[f] 21 The twelve gates were twelve pearls, each gate made of a single pearl. The great street of the city was of gold, as pure as transparent glass.
Dear Ray and Gloria.
Shalom.
There are those who believe in the Word of God as it is written. And there are those who mocks the Word of God, and try to convince us that the Word of God means something else.
Do be in the “something else” camp makes you anything, but not a follower of Jesus. You might claim to know Jesus, but you are nothing but a deceiver, who deceive your self and those who listen to you.
I will not accept this kind of deceptions on New That Matters. Ray, you will have to go somewhere else. You personal attack on Gloria will make me spam your next message, if I do not see an apology.
Gloria, Jesus IS The Word.
Yes, he is Ray, and He gave us his Word to read, learn and live by.
Dear Todd.
Shalom.
You wrote:
Paul said to the Phillipian believers; Watch out for those dogs, those men who do evil, those mutilators of the flesh. Notice he called Judaizers dogs. This is what Israelites called gentile.
My reply:
Please quote the full scripture passage:
Philippians 3:4-6
though I myself have reasons for such confidence.
If someone else thinks they have reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more: circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee; as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for righteousness based on the law, faultless.
(end of scripture).
I guess Paul is not a dog, even though He is blameless in regards to the Law?
Do Paul say that all cicumzised Jews are dogs?
Not at all. He says THOSE evildoers. If He was talking about all Jews, He would defame God of the Bible. Because it Is God who demands their circumcision of the flesh.
Please repent from this anti-Jewish comment.
Ivar
Peace to you.
There were times when paul adressed the circumcision group. These were unbelieving israelites that were trying to add to the gospel by teaching that circumcision was necassary. they were trying to impose an Israelite tradition on gentiles. These are who paul was referring to as dogs. They tried to impose circumcision done in the flesh on new gentile believers. In quoting
the entire passage as you have done you forgot to quote Phil 3:7 But what ever was to my profit (A hebrew of hebrews, circumsised on the eighth day of the tribe of Benjamin,in regard to the law a pharisee,as for zeal; persecuting the church, as for righteousness based on the the law, faultless) I now consider loss
for the sake of Christ. 8. What is more I consider everything a loss compared to the cirpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus for who’s sake I have lost all things.
I consider them rubbish that I may gain Christ…paul was a dog at one time but then Jesus found him. He then Became a jew.
Gal.Those of us who are jews by birth and not gentile sinners no that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. What birth was he talking about? certainly not natural birth as an Isrelite. They did not believe that justification was through faith in Christ.
They were taught by their blind guides that justification came by observing the law. The birth that he is talking about is rebirth , being born again as he told Nicodemus. And Nicodemus thought he literally meant getting back into his mothers womb and being born again. It is the washing of rebirth that paul is speaking of. Not Paul but Christ cause he’s the one who told Paul what to write.Titus 3:5 He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the holy spirit, whom he poured out on us genourously through Jesus Christ our saviour.Ivar The dogs were those unbelieving judaizers who were trying to thwart the gospel message. Paul was warning the Phillipians about them. He said watch out for them. (the circumcision group). We(those who are in Christ) are the circumcision group now. Physical circumcision to me is absolutely meaning less as Christ has said. Your comment to me to repent of this anti jewish comment would be the same as repenting from a statement that is anti Christ and I will not repent of that.
Remember Ivar Its all about Christ and his covenant now. Remember also as I have said before on this site, Paul said in Romans chap 2 a man is not a jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical, No a man is a jew if he is one inwardly and circumcision is circumcision of the heart done by the spirit not the written code. Otherwise all men are gentile sinners because they have not been born again. All men (those that call themselves jews but are not, and gentiles
are sinners, because God has bound all men to disobedience(sin) so that all men may now recieve mercy.
love you brother
Dear Todd.
Shalom.
The messages from Paul to the Jews, must not be read as Jew-hate. He do not feel that the Jews are dogs, including him self. Neither does Paul claim to have the authority to change the Word of God, and replace the covenants between the Jewish people and God.
If Paul did that, He would make God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob a liar. Because God told His chosen people to be circumcised in the flesh.
Many Jews seems to be more loyal to the Word of God than many Christians. That is why such Jews can not accept their “Jesus”, who makes a mockery out of what His Father told them would be an everlasting ordinance. The same “Jesus” copy does try to delete the everlasting promise about the land.
The logic seems to be: “If the Jews do no longer have to be circumcised in the flesh, than they are no longer caretakers of the land. God has simply changed his mind, and can not be trusted”.
Genesis 17:10-12
This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you. For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner—those who are not your offspring.
(end of scriptures).
The Jewish males are circumcised in the flesh. They have obeyed the Word, and that is why God has preserved them for 3.000 years, while all their enemies have perished. No false teachers have been able to turn the Jews away from obeying and keeping the Law.
Will obedience to the Law save them?
Absolutely not.
A Jew is not saved by obedience of the Law, but by letting God of the Bible do a circumcision of his heart. This is the job of the Holy Spirit. The Messiah is the only one who can save a Jew.
Paul explains that the heart of the Jewish people, have been hardened.
Who did this?
God the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. God have hardened their heart for a purpose. So salvation could come to the gentiles.
But we can also be deceived, and Jesus refuse to save us.
We are suppose to love the Jews, and provoke them to jealousy. Few Christians do that. Because their have totally disconnected them selves from the Jewish faith. They have no clue about the Jewish festivals that Jesus celebrated, no cue about the history of the Jewish people, and the hardships linked to the restoration of Israel.
When Christians live in disobedience, and lack basic knowledge about the Jewish faith, history and culture, why should a Law obedient Jew listen to Him?
Paul’s teaching about the relationship between the law and grace is sometimes challenging stuff. But let this verse end my comment:
Romans 3:31
Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.
Additionally Circumcision of the flesh is no longer required by God to anyone.Because it is of no value to anyone unless they are able to keep the law. And no
one can keep it. All have sinned and fallen short.What the jews do today is mockery of all that Christ did for them. Circumsision did not save them then. It was a symbol of who they were. Israelites.
Israel was the kingdom of God in the Old testament, but in the new covenant of Christ the kingdom has been taken away from them and has now been given to a people who will bear its fruit. Matt.23 parable of the tennants. Those who bear its fruit are the elect, the chosen of God. believers in Jesus Christ who have received circumcision of the heart by the spirit. They bear the fruit of the kingdom. They are to be blessed and loved. If anyone blesses them they will be blessed by God because God said so when he told Abraham that he would bless those who bless you and your seed who is Christ and all who are in Christ.
Dear Todd
To say Israel will be taken from the Jewish people is display ignorance of the word of YHVH. Have you not heard of Messianic Jews yet? They believe that Y’shua is Messiah and are persecuted in Israel for their faithfulness. True Israel is the House of Jacob, the true olive tree. Gentile believers (wild olive branches) must be grafted into the true olive in order to be considered part of the bride of Yeshua Messiah (chosen people) just as it was for the mixed remnant of the first Exodus to Sinai. (A second Exodus will happen soon, this time to Zion). There will be no 13th gate for gentile believers in the new Jerusalem.
In 1948 Israel miraculously became a nation again and was handed back to the Jewish people. In the same year, the first of the dead sea scrolls was discovered in a cave by a shepherd boy. This was an original scroll of what we know today as the book of Isaiah. Isaiah prophesied that Israel would be returned to The Jewish people and that the twelve tribes would be restored. If you really imagine this was just coincidence then I recommend spending more time in humbling yourself before the Lord. Otherwise you may well be one of those He turns away with “I never knew you”.
Peter
greetings
I didn’t say that the kingdom would be taken away from them,
Jesus did. The audience who Jesus is talking to in the parable of the tenants are Chief priests and pharisees. He told them that the kingdom would be taken away from them and given to a people who would bear its fruit. If those words mean something other than what I think they mean, then please tell me. and who are the people who receive the kingdom,that was once theirs and is not anymore. You see the spirit is the one who asks the deep questions of God as Paul has written. I’m only asking deep questions.
You said that Messianic jews are persecuted in Israel for their faith, and I submit to you that anyone who claims the name of Christ and is faithful to procaim in Israel that Jesus is the Messiah they missed the first time suffers persecution as well. I know this for a fact. So; to say that only Messianic Jews are the only to be persecuted is not true. Followers of Christ suffer all over the world,and he said we would. Wild Olive branch or not,
when grafted in the same way as those who were once part of the tree and cut off, both are of the same family, and that is the Israel of God. Through adoption we are all sons.
the branches that were cut off, and those were unbelieving Israelites such as yourself, can only be part of the original tree by being grafted into it. No difference.God loves all his People
Enjoyed your response Todd but Y’sHuWaH wasn’t meaning that the Kingdom would be taken away from Jews specifically or even Pharisees for that matter … He was implying that it would be taken away from those who refused Him and given to a remnant who would remain faithful to Him. These would in turn become 12 tribes again (just as in the first Exodus) and rule with Him from Zion. Israel (the house of Jacob) will be restored as prophesied by most of the prophets and Messiah’s Torah Word will shine out from Zion again
Mr. Ivarfjeld
Thank You for your help, I worried about what I did wrong and have reviewed all notes writen and have wondered. How should I study the Bible to learn more and how should it be done? Do you know of any study programs that would enhance learning ?
Jesus said, I am The Way, The Truth and The Life all go through Jesus Christ to obtain The Father. I don’t know the Chapter or verse but it is stated maybe not those exact words but mighty close, Praise God and may God Bless Israel and Jerusalem!
Dear Rose.
Shalom.
You wrote:
I worried about what I did wrong and have reviewed all notes written and have wondered. How should I study the Bible to learn more and how should it be done?
My comment:
Find your self a good shepherd (pastor) who only teach the Word of God. He should be in a Church and a Fellowship that cares for Israel, and pray for peace in Jerusalem.
Rose your wrongs are forgiven. The past, present and future sins are carried by Jesus, nailed to the cross, and forgiven. Trust and Obey Jesus. He will pull His mercy and grace over you every day.
How do you study the Bible ? Open it and read it. Trust NO MAN to tell you what it means.
Amen John
Thats the way I do it. I have gotten rid of commentaries annd bibles with notes.Only simple bible wit a concordance and /or cross references. It seems that with study bibles there are more of mans words on the page than scripture. Paul said who can know the mind of a man except the spirit of that man. Who can know the mind of God except the spirit of God. Who’s spirit lives in the believer. We can know what the word means if we seek the answer from the one who wrote and lives in us.If any one lacks wisdom let him ask of God who gives generously without finding fault. If you study this way You might realize that much of what has been taught is wrong
Jesus speaking through the Apostle Paul prophesied that the antichrist would sit on his throne and declare himself to be God–‘the son of perdition’ [II Thessalonians 2:4}. Catholicism is a horrible distortion of Christianity.
Seems to me that the Roman Catholic Church is selling out God and all Christians.
Just read Herbert W Armstrong’s “Who and What is the Prophetic Beast” This shows that the “Man of Sin” is also the “False Prophet” Which is the Pope! The Image of the Beast is the CATHOLIC CHURCH! The Beast is the Roman Empire. What organization is modeled after the Roman Empire? The Catholic Church!The Beast that has two horns is also the Catholic Church because in Bible Prophesy horns means “governments”.Two horn means two fold Government One Civil and One Religion, The Roman Empire Model( Which the State religion was worshiping the leader). This is the Image of the Beast as Herbert Armstrong shows FROM the Bible the PROOF!! If the Above events are true, that means The Beast already STOOD in the glorious land(Palistine)and now has overthrown Egypt(mubarak) I believe this is fulfilling prophesy before our eyes! May we be counted worthy to escape the things to come!
he is “not” teaching truth….. but leaven!
ameriKa is the false prophet…….beast that rose up from the earth! the very image of her mother rome! 666=Lucifer SUNworship directly from Babylon!
be not deceived!
The big thing that confuses so many believers and which is leading to the demise of the Christian church, is their stubborn refusal to understand that the ‘time of the gentiles is over’. The body of evidence we have access to nowadays, that the Holy Spirit (via the information age) has revealed to prove that ‘the wild branch’ or gentiles who accept Jesus as their redeemer/Messiah must be grafted into the true olive tree (Israel/The House of Jacob) is overwhelming. This is not to say that Father’s plan did not include YHVH revealing His Son to the ‘nation of fools’ Moses wrote about in Deu 32, but that is not the end of the matter. The Holy Spirit continues to reveal things to those who have ears to hear and eyes to see.
Jesus has a real name, not just a Christianese nickname. His ‘mother’, Miryam, was instructed by the Holy Spirit (Ruach Hakodesh) to give Him the name Yahushua. Yahushua can be translated as ‘the salvation of Yah’. Its English equivalent is Joshua. Yah is a shortened form of YaHVeH which in English is referred to the Tetragammon or the four letters YHVH by which ‘God’ (another nickname) introduced Him/Them selves to Moses. I say Him/Them because the word is used in a plural sense in scripture . eg Gen 11:6 ‘And YHWH said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, let US (plural) go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one anothers speech’.
A good way of translating the word YHVH (pronounced Yahweh by many) therefore is to consider them as the trinity ie Father, Son and Holy Spirit. In most Bibles They are referred to as ‘The Lord’ or ‘God’ but this can lead to confusion … as it obviously has.
It is interesting to note that if we at least had used Joshua, rather than Jesus, we might have seen another prophecy inherent in Yahushua’s name. The Joshua that succeeded Moses led the children of Israel into the promised land of his time. A different Joshua will lead this generation into the promised land of our ‘end time’ generation. His name is Yahushua … the salvation of Father, Son and Holy Spirit (YaHWeH). Some people use YaHuWaH, which kind of gets close to Jahovah used by previous (less puffed up) generations.
Also interesting is an explanation of what the individual symbols stand for in the name YHVH. In ancient Hebrew, a Yod or our Y stands for what we know in English as ‘hand’. Hei or H stands for our English verb ‘behold’. V stands for Vav or V which means ‘nail’ and the final H has been dealt with already. So what we have in short is a name which means ‘behold the hand, behold the nail’. Still prefer ‘God’ and ‘Jesus’ ?.
The main reason most of Christianity is refusing to acknowledge the importance of a correct, Hebrew-based understanding of scripture is simple. To do so would put an end to the business of church. Torah (the first five books of the Bible in Hebrew), correctly understood includes teachings that one may not make a profit at the expense of one’s fellow believers. Interesting Huh? Picture Yahushua whipping businessmen from His temple.
Hope you enjoyed this introduction to reality. If you would like to know more about the truth, join a Messianic fellowship. Whatever you do, ignore the propaganda being preached by apostate Christian businesses to the effect that Messianics are a cult.
Dear Peter Coch
Shalom.
You wrote:
Yahushua can be translated as ‘the salvation of Yah’.
My comment:
The Bible says that the Messiah should be called Immanuel.
Isaiah 7:14
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.
(end of scriptures)
He was also to be called Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Wonderful councilor and price of peace.
Isaiah 9:6
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
(end of scriptures)
This “Yahushua” is unknown to me. I can not even pronounce such a Hebrew grammatical construction in my native language.
God most High and His Son is aware that the Messianic Believers all over the World, is calling on the Son with different pronunciation’s. Few of us can speak Hebrew.
In India converted Hindu’s call up on Him as “Yeshu Mesi”. As a Norwegian I call up on Him as “Jesus”, in a typical Norwegian dialect that hardly any Jew can utter. Please be careful not to make the name of the Messiah an issue.
Praised be Jesus, the Jewish Messiah, the Son of God.
A question ivarfjeld how should I pronounce your name because it certainly seems difficult to me….you wouldn’t mind if I changed it would you?
Shalom
Veronica,
Your name isn’t the easiest to pronounce either. I have a cousin with that name, and when my Dad because of his spanish heritage couldn’t pronounce it, he would say it in his own language.
But regarding our Savior, thanks to Him always for answering me when I have called him in any name I’ve called him: Jesus, Father, God, Dios, in both English and Spanish
Here are some more: Advocate, Almighty, Redeemer, Alpha
I agree that the name of Messiah should not be an issue among believers but you yourself made mention above somewhere that the name Jesus son of Mary is likely to be the name Islam worships as the antiMessiah, so surely one should at least be wondering what the alternatives are. Immanuel is more a title than a name, like AlefTav (alpha omega in Greek). Now there’s an interesting study. Why did Y’shua say ‘I am the AlefTav’ to John on Patmos. The original title of our Saviour appears as the middle word of the menora that is Gen1:1 in Hebrew. Its right next to the word Elohim or ‘God’, and yet it’s hidden from those who don’t follow Him (eg unsaved Jews, lukewarm, etc). That’s why John refers to Him as the word that was with ‘God’ and was ‘God’ in the beginning. (http://www.torahteachers.com/mystery-of-the-alef-tav-rico-cortes/)
Alpha Omega, Jesus, God, etc. simply do not convey the original Hebrew intent. Keeping sabbath on Sunday and other unscriptural feasts creates confusion (mixed seed). Its ok for those who aren’t all that interested and really don’t have the time to examine scripture (especially the Torah instructions) more closely but those who desire to be kings and priests in the coming millennial Kingdom need to be aware that Father hides things in scripture …
Pro 25:2 The glory of God is to hide a thing; but the honor of kings is to search out a matter.
Take note of the advice He gives us in Mat 13:52 Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.
The ‘new’ of the NT comes into true perspective when one truly understands the old. The original Torah is written in Hebrew. Many ‘saved’ scribes have become Torah teachers. Speak to them.
Peter,
I just like to mention that I’ve called Jesus, by that name, also God, My Father, Messiah, and he’s never failed to answer me.
God Bless,
Gloria
Dear Peter Coch.
Shalom.
Thanks for this comment, brother.
The Bibles says many will come in His name. Jesus warns us in advance, that there will be copy cats. And Indian preacher I know, told me His name in North India is “Bali Raja” The suffering king. The problem with this man, is that He will not come back to Jerusalem.
I do acknowledge that the Hebrew Messiah has come to Jerusalem, died for my sins on the cross at Calvary, rose from the dead, and will come back for a second time. He will come back to Jerusalem. I also acknowledge that there are copy-cats, and that people have been deceived to follow a “different Jesus”. I also acknowledge that there are people who claim to know Him, but have never known Him. I call on Him, as Jesus. I have no problem to call on Him as “Yeshua”. I have seen saved Indians calling Him as “Yeshu Mesi”. What a wonderful saver He is. Amen.
Mr.Ivarfjeld Sir
Another question for you, when reading in the Holy Bible I will see words that seem to jump off the page, can you tell me what that means?
Thank YOU!
A Woman Rides The Beast
With ease Europa tames her snorting beast
Pounding bloodline spiritually subdued
First as a fox in her fortress, floating
then filled with his tithes, gloating
Now she’s testing testosterone in tights and boots
This way my faithful steed
Right! now that way, and … JUMP
Islam for Temple Mount
Galloping horsepower glides in her gloves
Onward ho! Now bow and kiss the ring
Entranced, he submits to the Papal brand
Steel clad bit tastes strangely sweet
as it clamps his slavering tongue
Sensitive teeth, on edge protest
sensing vipers in the Holy see
Vainly they champ champ foamy warnings
but our hero clears every round
‘wins’ the day for little horn
paves the way for obamanation
Lucifer chortles, takes a white knight
Break a leg, he says, raising his eggtimer
Here’s to Humpty
and a quivverful of Dumptys
Ivar I wanted to bring this article to your attention.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53968.html
Obama’s father forced out at Harvard
Harvard administrators, the memo stated, “were having difficulty with his financial arrangements and couldn’t seem to figure out how many wives he had.”
Look up Alberto Rivera, the Papacy created Islam. Islam rebelled from the Pope. Now it’s all coming back together.
Realize people, all the early protestants ‘knew’ the Anti-Messiah was the Pope. Read their history, and find out what the counter reformation (Jesuits) has done to get the protestants back under the Harlot’s sway.
NEBUCHADNEZZAR had a dream. The FINAL EMPIRE was of IRON and CLAY. ROME has always been accepted as IRON… Most folk do not realize that followers of ISLAM are called “CHILDREN OF THE CLAY”. These two kingdoms permeate the world, they are connected, yet not blended. They are two distinct kingdoms and in the end will form ONE KINGDOM.. THEN… There is a STONE
Daniel 2:40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.
41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters’ clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.
43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
Pope John Paul’s coffin being kissed by fellow illuminists
It would be really good if the author of this article had cited his sources, and if someone had proofread it for grammar. I find it difficult to take seriously new information in poorly written articles.
As it is, it’s just a headline, backed up with a lot of conjecture as to the Pope’s intentions, not with any fact. It weakens the integrity of the blog.
That is your opinion Sylvia.
Readers come to this blog to learn about Jesus Christ, who is the One and True King.
Readers also come to learn about false teachers like the pope.
By way of confirmation http://doubleportioninheritance.blogspot.com/2011/05/nimrod-papacy-pangaea_17.html
i’m catholic. i pray everyday. i don’t worship the pope or mary or anyone other than God. God who is trinity – father, son, and holy spirit. i love people as best as i can with the love that has been given to me from the Lord. i’ve been baptized. i read my bible and study the scriptures.
am i going to hell?
Dear Matt
Shalom, and welcome to this site.
To whom to do you pray?
I can see why you’re confused about what this term means. The pope does not have to be SITTING in the chair of St Peter in order to speak ex cathedra. A chair, or office of authority, is a symbolic thing.
Jesus’ words to Peter in Matthew 16:18–19, “You are Peter, and upon this Rock, I will build my Church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. To you have I entrusted the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven”, are inscribed in Latin in the apse, within which is placed Bernini’s monument enclosing the wooden chair, both of which are seen as symbolic of the authority of the Bishop of Rome as Vicar of Christ and successor of Saint Peter (see Petrine supremacy).
Dear Henry Jones.
Shalom.
It is not the point if the Pope sit or stand. The point is that the Pope is “god” when he speaks about correct moral, and how to understand the scripture. Please accept the Word of God as it is written. Leave the Pope alone.
I have many times been puzzled by Roman Catholic, simply not able to obey Jesus. It can never be incorrect to pray in the name of Jesus only. So why pray in any other name? Why ask for favors from dead saints and madonnas?
Lave dead saints and madonnas alone. Talk directly to the living God.
HenryJones,
What Jesus said to Peter, does this mean Jesus also said this directly to Catholic Popes? No.
You do not even understand correctly what Jesus said to Peter and why it was said.
I want to ask you what you think the “church” is. Do you think that the church is a building where the Pope sits? Do you think that the church is a building anywhere? Do you think that the church is all people in a religion or denomination?
The church is the body of Christ, made up of true believers.
If a Catholic loves Jesus then he will want to find out what pleases the Lord, the Catholic would obey the teachings of Jesus, so that he would remain in Jesus’ love. A Catholic that loves the Lord and obeys would come out of the Catholic religion after starting to obey the Truth.
Catholics have succumbed to the teachings of the Popes, and blinded by these teachings. Catholics forsake the teachings of Jesus to follow the Pope’s teachings. Read the Bible and start doing what Jesus say now.
What does Jesus say? Open your Bible and begin carefully considering these scriptures:
Here is one scripture to show why NOT to call any one “father”. Matthew 23:9.
Here is a passage to show why NOT to make statues. Deuteronomy 4:15-17.
Here is one scripture to show NOT to call Mary a “Mediatrix”. 1 Timothy 2:5.
Here are scriptures to show why not to say Mary was sinless. Romans 3:23.
Here are scriptures to show that there is not real presence in the bread and wine. John 6:60-64.
Here is a scripture to show that we do not pray to priests in confessionals. Matthew 27:51.
Here is a scripture to show that infant baptism is not biblical. Acts 2:38.
Here is a scripture that shows not to venerate relics. 1 Corinthians 10:14.
Here is a scripture to show that Catholic priests are not to be forbidden to marry. 1 Timothy 4:2
Here is a scripture to show that it is wrong when the Catholics forbid the eating of meat. 1 Timothy 4:2
The name Jesus called God is “Holy Father” (John 17:11), this is a name reserved for God. It should make you cringe when you hear the Catholic Pope referred to as Holy Father.
The Catholic Pope walks around in flowing robes, and taking the seat of importance. Jesus teaches us not to do those things (Luke 20:46).
The Catholic Pope reverenced by people bowing to him and having his feet kissed. However, the Word of God says not to do these things (Revelation 19:10; Revelation 22:8-9; Acts 10:25-26).
Nowhere in the Bible does it speak of apostolic succession, nor does the Bible even hint at such a tradition.
It really is not so hard to know the right things to do. We must not be stubborn. Read the written Word of God and start obeying the Truth now. It is what you should be doing for the rest of your life, for your life.
Let me ask you guys something??? What makes really sure that your opinion solely the right teachings???? Where does your authority come from??? I know you will use sacred scripture to back up your claim to be right, but the Bible cannot be the only sole authority in the matter of the Christian Faith?!?!
Our Lord Himself wrote nothing. He commanded the Apostles not to write but to teach and preach: “Going, therefore, teach all nations” and “preach the Gospel to every creature.” Christ’s disciples and the Christians were commanded to hear the Church, not to read the still nonexistent or at best incomplete New Testament Scriptures: “He who hears you, hears Me.”
The teaching Church was in existence long before a single line of the New Testament was written. The Apostles evangelized different peoples, not by presenting to them a copy of the New Testament which did not as yet exist, but by preaching the Gospel, the oral message of Christ to them. Thousands of men became Christians and adhered to the whole truth of God before they saw or read a single book of the New Testament.
It was the leaders of the existing teaching Church who wrote the books of the New Testament. It was the Church which collected and preserved these books, and distinguished them from spurious books which might have otherwise found their way into the Bible. It was from the Catholic church that the Protestants of the sixteenth century took their Bible and also their belief in its divine inspiration.
How illogical, then, it is for a group to step in fifteen hundred years later, wrest the Bible from its historical and lawful possessor and fosterer, put the Bible in the place of the Church, and pretend to possess a true understanding of the purpose and meaning of the Bible?
The different books of the New Testament were for many centuries scattered in the various Christian communities of the Orient. Being written on papyrus which was fragile and breakable, these books could not be widely circulated and hence were read by a comparatively few groups. It was only in 397 A.D. that the Council of Carthage finally decided which books belong to the Bible, and it was about this time, too, that the books of the Bible were combined into one volume. Yet prior to this, the Church spread rapidly to many lands, converts were received into the Church by the thousands, the faith of the people was so strong that it peopled heaven with countless saints and martyrs.
What makes you think you are more right and make the Catholic Church (I mean the whole not only Roman, but also Byzantine Rite and even the Eastern Orthodox Church). All you do is attack the Catholic faith and its traditions!!
Before the invention of printing in the sixteenth century, copies of the Bible written by hand were so rare and costly that only the rich could procure them. To own a Bible during this period was to own a fortune, and in many instances the Bible had to be chained in order to prevent its being stolen. Were the poor, then, during all these centuries, without a religious guide and teacher?
Was God indifferent to the salvation of the countless souls that passed into eternity during these fifteen hundred years? Did not our Lord provide for the salvation of these unnumbered millions, event though they could not procure, or read, or understand the Bible? We are sure that even our non-Catholic brethren would hardly subscribe to these blasphemous conclusions.
Bible Christianity, then, is an invention of the sixteenth century. In the previous centuries it was not only unknown but it was impossible. Bible Christianity is a formal denial of the Catholic Church, of her divine authority and mission to teach all men. It strives to abrogate the Church which Christ instituted, endeavours to substitute in its place a book, and makes the Bible, as interpreted by one’s own private judgment, the sole and supreme rule of faith and morality.
That the Bible is not self-explanatory is apparent, for example, from a mere casual reading of any chapter of the Epistle to the Romans or of the Apocalypse. That it is not self-sufficient is evident from the countless commentaries and books on Sacred Scripture. St. Peter himself was aware of certain difficult passages in the Pauline Epistles when he wrote: “Our most dear brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, hath written to you, as also in all his epistles speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other Scriptures, to their own destruction” (II Peter 3:15-16).
If you can’t answer the question I have asked about or even try to avoid it or go off another subject of attack on the Church. Then I truely know you have no right or authority or true teachings of any sort!!
HenryJones says: Let me ask you guys something??? What makes really sure that your opinion solely the right teachings????
My reply: Can you not read the scriptures and understand for yourself? Can you not understand the words from the Bible? It really is not so hard to understand.
HenryJones says: Our Lord Himself wrote nothing. He commanded the Apostles not to write but to teach and preach: “Going, therefore, teach all nations” and “preach the Gospel to every creature.” Christ’s disciples and the Christians were commanded to hear the Church, not to read the still nonexistent or at best incomplete New Testament Scriptures: “He who hears you, hears Me.”
My reply: Please read and carefully consider this passage: Romans 16:25-27 Now to him who is able to establish you by my gospel and the proclamation of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery hidden for long ages past, but now revealed and made known through the prophetic writings by the command of the eternal God, so that all nations might believe and obey him–to the only wise God be glory forever through Jesus Christ! Amen
Did you read what the Word of God says? The word of God says that the revelation of the mystery hidden for long ages past, but now made known through the prophetic writings.
Are there really more questions you have after reading those scriptures?
HenryJones,
What the apostles verbally taught, these teaching did not contradict the written word.
Here are more scriptures for you to consider carefully:
As the apostle Peter told the Jewish council in Acts 5:29, “We ought to obey God rather than men”.
The teaching of the Popes adds to God’s Word, and not only adds to God’s Word but also contradicts.
The original apostles received all the truth we need to guide us to eternal life, and they wrote this down in the Scriptures (John 16:13; 2 Pet. 1:3; Acts 20:20,27; Matt. 28:20; I Cor. 14:37; 2 Tim. 3:16,17).
The teachings of these inspired writers can be understood by the common people. We do not need official interpreters to understand the word, but we should use the word to check out the teachers! (Mark 7:14; 2 Tim. 3:15, 16,17; John 20:30,31; Acts 17:11; Psalm 119:105)
We displease God when we follow tradition or church laws or any human standard as the source of authority for the church (Matt. 15:1-14; Col. 2:8; Gal. 1:6-9; Prov. 14:12; 2 John 9-11; Jer. 10:23).
HenryJones,
Please read this scripture. How can you possibly ever repeat what you said about the written word again?
John 20:30 Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. 31 But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.
“But these are written that you may believe…”
Luke 1:1-4 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.
Did you see that? In Luke we are told “it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you….so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.“
Paul was not saying that he kept all the law but that he knew, in his heart, that the One in Whom he had faith, Jesus Christ, was His Savior/Redeemer, Who had accomplished this for him. The righteousness of Christ was Paul’s covering. But Paul said, “To the Jew, I will make myself a Jew….”. Unless he felt that what he was doing denied that Jesus was Lord he did not feel it was wrong. However, for a Gentile convert to do such a thing would be wrong because it would be against our conscience.
Romans 16:25-27
25 Now to him that is able to establish you, according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret from eternity,
26 (Which now is made manifest by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the precept of the eternal God, for the obedience of faith,) known among all nations;
27 To God the only wise, through Jesus Christ, to whom be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
There is widespread scholarly opinion that Paul did not write these verses; however, the person who did and the editor who placed them near the end of the letter (clearly presumed that these words reflected Paul’s views). Earlier in Romans, Paul has stated that the fundamental human act in relation to God should be acknowledgement of God (Romans 1:28), and so the giving of honor and thanksgiving to God (Romans 1:21). Humanity’s ability to be human is built on the primary action of recognizing God and so of honoring and thanking God. The essential human stance is a focus on God and a profound awareness that God is, as a famous Protestant theologian once said (Paul Tillich), ‘the ground of being’. Consequently, the ideal human disposition is praise of God.
The perfect mode of being human is to live for God’s glory. Paul (or an heir of Paul) models this at the end of Romans: “to the only wise God be glory for evermore through Jesus Christ! Amen” (16:27).
Praise of God is an ideal because humanity, in Paul’s view, has been drawn away from its natural state. Sin, and humanity’s cooperation with Sin, has distorted humanity so that, typically, human beings look to themselves and look after themselves as if God did not exist. The praise of God is foreign; what is normal is the praise of humanity. This means that what should be natural has become an ideal.
The good news, however, is that this ideal is now an offer. Humans can now live in praise of God because they can now live in the “obedience of faith” (Romans 16:26; cf. Romans 1:5). God has made available, through the gospel, the capacity to live apart from the dominion of Sin; to live in Christ (Romans 8:1-2), which is to live in the obedience of faith, as Christ did (Philippians 2:8) – the result of which is the glory of God (Philippians 2:11).
This way of faithfulness to God, of obedience to God, of praise of God is available because God has taken the initiative and revealed the mystery (16:25). Paul thinks of the good news as the apocalyptic revelation of God’s Son (see Galatians 1:16; and look at the commentary on Galatians by Theologian and Scripture Scholar J. L. Martyn). It is not that the gospel itself is mysterious. It is that the gospel is the unveiling of what had until now been a mystery.
Two things to note here: First, the gospel is an unveiling of something that was in existence. The gospel is, then, not new in the divine scheme of things. It has been in God’s universe, as the words of this passage say, “for long ages” (16:25). This is why the “prophetic writings” (16:26) are one of the vehicles through which the mystery is revealed. Even though the scriptures of the synagogue are prior to the “preaching of Jesus Christ” (16:25), they reveal that preaching. This is the case because the kerygma of Jesus Christ is only new from the human point of view.
Other writings of Paul will take up this feature of the wonder of the gospel. Colossians, for instance, will speak of Christ’s activity in the creation of the world (Colossians 1:16) and of how all things hold together in Christ (Colossians 1:17). The event of the cross is placed in a context much broader than the historical life of Jesus. The event of the cross is seen as an episode in a narrative that spans back to the creation of the world and forward to the final defeat of everything that opposes God’s holiness.
The second thing to note is that the mystery is a mystery only until God decides to unveil it. Now there is no mystery in regards to the good news and the preaching of Jesus Christ. God has revealed the mystery.
Believers, then, stand in the light of revelation. This is all the more reason to praise God. God’s character as the one who cares enough to help God’s creatures live in their most perfect way, in the way of obedience of faith, is seen more fully now. The good news reveals God’s commitment to helping humanity live apart from Sin and so apart from disobedience; to live as we were created to live – towards God and not towards ourselves.
This passage places the incarnation (the mystery), in the broad arena of God’s never ending, always existent desire for humanity to live in peace. The reconciliation that is offered in the gospel is the reconciliation to what humanity was created to be. The goal of reconciliation has always been at the heart of God’s cosmos. Now it has been revealed. Believers in Christ are privy to the revelation of the mystery which is the good news – that Jesus Christ came into the world, died for our sins, as a tradition of sacrifice offer to God, the most high, was raised and that he will return to complete the defeat of Sin.
Lord have mercy!
You must be as dumb as dog shit! First of all, those aren’t priests in that picture. They did become priests that day, because it’s an ordination ceremony into the priesthood. Next, they aren’t worshiping the pope, they’re reciting the Litany of Saints, and humbling themselves to God and begging the saints intercession.
Also, the common enemy of the Jews and Islam has always been the Church. I have heard many Muslims and Jews say out of their mouths that they would side with each other to overcome Christianity.
Maybe you should do some research before you vomit evil from your sinister pie hole.
Hey domQCatholic, be advised the Vatican is the Great Whore Mother of the Revelation. Her children are the Prot cults.
“come out of her MY people”
domQ… those opening bars of yours provide a valuable clue. Be suspicious of any religious system which claims to be teaching you Messiah’s truth but which, in fact has succeeded in inspiring such degrading fruit.
Religiosity is exactly what Y’sHuWaH Messiah came to teach us how to steer clear of. This forum should not be perceived as your enemy. Try to have an open mind and just peacefully try to gain the truthful perspective it seeks to provide.
Christianity and Judaism are both religions which try to present us with truth that has been compromised by political agendas. When one considers that the first of the dead sea scrolls, Isaiah was discovered in the same year (1948) that Israel miraculously became a nation again, it should provide evidence that the church is teaching false doctrine by upholding what it calls ‘Replacement Theology’. Isaiah prophesied, among many other things, that Israel would be restored, that all 12 tribes would be reinstated and that Messiah would rule the world from Zion (Jerusalem) with the iron rod of His law (Torah) for 1000 years of sabbath peace.
On the other hand, Judaism, which claims to follow Messiah’s Torah as given to Moses, does no such thing … it too, has compromised Messiah’s truth (The Word) by adding to it, the traditions of men (Talmud, Mishnah, etc) and subtracting whatever gets in the way of it’s agenda (Messiah Y’sHuWaH)
The narrow road advocated by Messiah is narrow largely because it must blaze a trail through the burgeoning camps of Jewish and Christian religion. One becomes despised by both camps in rejecting their false teaching. This is not to say that, over the millennia, their input has not provided much which assists one in finding the truth that is Messiah and His living Word … Christianity for me personally has been invaluable as a platform in which one can grow from baby steps with Jesus and then move on to giant leaps of faith in Messiah Y’sHuWaH by shedding the chaff it seems so intent on preserving.
This link should help:
http://videos.followersofyah.com/Videos/The-Imposter/Main.html
shalom
This is a really interestig article because one of the most fascinating debates is whether there is some event in the future that will allow Islam and its common enemy Christion Zionism to come together. I disagree that Vatican is separate to zionism as the first part of this article seems to state.
Please dont forget the vatican supported the Knights Templars massacre of millions of Muslims in Israel and these Knight Templarsand their bloodlines are now the same masonic controlled countries who are funding the rebuilding of Solomons Temple on the Temple Mount in Jersusalem.
Dont think you can seperate vatican and treat them as separate to the Zionists.
I came across http://www.theantichristidentity.com which goes into a lot of detail about Obama and Islam and the Middle East
Thanks
Kev
Dear Kev
Shalom.
You wrote:
This is a really interesting article because one of the most fascinating debates is whether there is some event in the future that will allow Islam and its common enemy Christian Zionism to come together. I disagree that Vatican is separate to zionism as the first part of this article seems to state.
My comment:
In the Christian Zionist camp, there will be two flocks. Just like in all other camps. Some Christian Zionists accept support from Roman Catholics. Like the ecumenical ministry, the International Christian Embassy in Jerusalem. You will never see the leaders of this ministry utter the words of the Reformers: The Pope is an antichrist.
Other Christian Zionist will stand on the lessons from the Reformation, when challenged. Even if hundreds of thousands of dollars will vanish when their present “supporters” disappears.
In regards to Islam, there will be some Christian Zionists who will accept the “final peace proposal”. Simply because they feel that peace in Israel is the highest political goal of their support for the Jewish state.
There will be other Christian Zionist who agree that Islam is of the devil, and that Muslim leaders can not, and must never be trusted. Their signature is not worth the papers it is written on.
Dear Ivar,
Thank you for exposing the evil plot of the Vatican long before it has come to pass.
“Israel reached an historical agreement with the Vatican to give up some sort of sovereignty over the “Hall of the Last Supper” on Mount Zion in Jerusalem. The Vatican will now have a foothold at the site: Israel agreed to give the Vatican first priority in leasing opportunities and access to it.
“This was the culmination of a long campaign by the Roman Catholic Church to regain religious stewardship over the place where Jesus broke bread and drank wine with his disciples on the eve of his crucifixion, and where the Holy Spirit descended on the disciples at Pentecost.
“A few months ago, Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran, head of the Vatican’s Council for Interreligious Dialogue, asked to place the Israeli holy site under Vatican authority. The problem is that the site is also King David’s Tomb, a complex of buildings of some 100,000 square feet where David and Solomon, and Jewish kings of Judea, are buried.
“The Vatican wants Israel to also relinquish sovereignty at the Western Wall and the Temple Mount. The Holy See uses the expression “Holy Basin,” which refers to the area of the Temple Mount, the Mount of Olives, Mount Zion and a variety of Christian holy sites that many US governments also asked to be administered under a “special regime.”
“The goal is to ensure that a Jew will not set foot in the heart of Jerusalem, as was the case before 1967.”
Read More:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4185027,00.html
A very serious end time move..Armagerddon just around the corner..God will never give up on Jerusalem..beware:Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Zec 12:4 In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.
In THAT DAY…means now,in these last days
I agree Zec 12 [same war as Ezek 38-39] is just around the corner. The Zec and Ezek war will occur years before the final Revelation chapter 19 war [Armagerddon].
Sounds like Jerusalem doesn’t have to worry about horsey’s and their riders. The Lord will take care of them. Now if your talking missiles and nukes then Jerusalem has something to fear. Could it be possible that the Jerusalem they are speaking of is Christ’s church. That certainly was a burdensome stone for the people in the last days of the end of the age. (Law Israel age) It certainly was a burdensome stone for the unbelieving
leaders of Israel. And they because of their unbelief in messiah
and their endeavor to wipe out Christ’s church were cut into pieces literally. Jerusalem is Christ’s church. The last days were the days between the Old and New Covenant. They did exist together for a while, you know, but then the New Covenant took over completely. The law/Israel age is over and now is the gospel church age.
Dear Todd.
Shalom.
You wrote:
The law/Israel age is over and now is the gospel church age.
My comment:
This is the whole idea of Replacement theology. God has finished his business with the Jews, and there is basically no Jewish people anymore. The state of Israel is not a fullfilment of Biblical prophecy, and the state of Israel just one of the 200 nations on the face of the Earth.
If this is true, God of the Bible is a liar. So is “Jesus”. The Bible is a hoax. The Christian faith is dead.
To the radical opposite: The rebirth of Israel is the very best proof in our days, that the Bible can be trusted. The best proof there is of Jesus being alive.
Todd.
We have been through this many time before. Will there ever be an end to the deception you are walking in?
ALL of Christianity is Satans master piece of deception.
The Hebrew Messiah has a HEBREW NAME that NAME is YAHSHUA. This HEBREW NAME tells His story. Number 2424 in the Strong’s His NAME mean Yahweh’s SALVATION in the Hebrew the langue the Holy Scriptures were written in!
Jesus the Christ of the Christian religion is the false savior all the Hebrew prophets and the apostles of Yahshua Messiah warned this deceived world was coming.
This fake savior was working to deceive the whole world in the days of the apostles Rev.12:9 2 Yahchanan (John ) 7.
Should you have eyes to see this truth then you may want to come on by the only place that has SALVATION from the Hebrew Messiah on this earth today.
http://www.yahweh.com
May the Spirit that is Holy the same Spirit that inspired the Hebrew prophets and the apostles of the Hebrew Messiah to write to us bless your understanding in your search for TRUTH!
Okie
Ivar
Greetings
Is not the age of law over? The age of living by the law to be justified ended because the promised seed(who is Christ )
came. The law was put into affect because of transgressions until the seed to whom the promise refered had come. Gal 3;19. Now Justification is through faith(belief) in Christ. There is a plan of God for all those who call themselves Jews, and that is that they will come to faith in Christ. All who believe are children of Abraham. Gal 3:7. The Law age still exists for some. Primarily Jewish. but sadly they still remain blind because of their unbelief.
Cursed is anyone who tries to live by the law to gain justification.
Gal 3:10. This is not a deception. This is the truth and is for all to believe. This teaching has nothing to do with a deception that is linked with replacement theology as you call it. The covenant that was made with Abraham was made with him by God alone.
And it was spoken to Christ as well. The covenant that was made with the twelve tribes of Israel was made with angels and a mediator. But God is one. Christ covenant supercedes the one that was made with angels and a mediator because he is greater than the angels and Moses. That’s biblical teaching that is correct. The covenant that was made with Israel by angels and a mediator was only binding until the promised seed came. He came obviously, so that puts and end to the old covenant. The Covenant that was made with Abraham by God alone is still in effect; and yet applies to those who are in Christ. If you want to teach something different than that, then you are in error
Dear Todd.
Shalom.
You wrote:
If you want to teach something different than that, then you are in error.
My reply:
If Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever: When did He brake the eternal promises He gave to the Jewish forefathers?
If the age of law were over as you put it Todd, then why do the prophets agree that in the 7th (Sabbath) Millennium, after Messiah’s return, the light of Torah will shine forth from Zion once again ?
Ivar
greetings again
Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever. He has kept his promise to the Jewish forefathers Abraham Issac and Jacob because they believed what God said, and he has kept his promise to all who previously believed in the promised seed.
He is still keeping it with all who have believed in him since he came.and all who believe in him in the future yet. What were the promises that were spoken to Abraham. Your name will be great, I will bless you, I will make from you a great nation, all the nations will blessed through you. I will curse those who curse you and bless those who bless you. These promises were spoken to Abraham’s seed as well. (Who is Christ) This covenant is an everlasting covenant that applies to Abraham and Christ and all who are in Christ. Who do these promises apply too? Any Jewish person today who puts his faith in Christ inherits the promises that were made to Abraham, because they truly are then and only then, Abraham’s children.
Dear Todd.
Shalom.
You wrote:
Who do these promises apply too? Any Jewish person today who puts his faith in Christ inherits the promises that were made to Abraham, because they truly are then and only then, Abraham’s children.
My reply:
These promises were given by Jesus to Abraham. Jesus can not deny Him self.
You are in error, Todd. You teach that Jesus is a liar, who can not be trusted. That the old covenant has been replaced with a New, is about the blood of Jesus being superior to the blood of doves and bulls. The eternal promises in regards to Zion still stands. The Prophetic Word is crystal clear. Still thousands of Christian leaders say Jesus is a liar. What a shame.
Ivar greetings and peace
Galatians 3 vs 16 NIV
The promises were spoken to Abraham and his seed. Note that it says spoken to not spoken by him (Christ who is his seed). Christ is not a liar. Genesis 12;1 The Lord had said to Abram,
His name had not been changed yet to Abraham, but he was the same guy. Was it the Lord God, or the Lord Christ. Paul makes a distinction by saying the promises were spoken to not spoken by. Which is it?
Peter Coch
greetings and peace
Your thinking is obviously rooted in the fact that Christ has not yet returned obviously. The letter to the Hebrews says that the Old covenant which was mediated by Moses and angels is obsolete and passing and will soon fade away. That was 2000
years ago. The Old covenant that was temporarily in affect until the seed to whom the promised refered came Then that temporary covenant became obsolete. Just
as it says in the letter to the Hebrews. For it to come back again would be to put into affect the law which has no power, and is a curse because no one can follow it. It would also be a mockery to the finished work of Christ. He Christ would not put into affect a covenant that cannot bring justification to man. If a law could have been given that could impart life then righteousness could have been obtained through the law. Gal 3:21. The Light of the Torah is that all nations will be blessed through and to Abraham’s seed, who is Christ. All who believe are Abraham’s children and all who are in Christ are Abraham’s seed That is the Torah. There is no blessing in following the law ,only a curse. as it says cursed is anyone who tries to live by the law. The Law is powerless.
To believe otherwise is error
Dear Todd.
Shalom.
You are in error. The righteousness of Abraham did not come through the law of Moses. Abraham lived by faith. The promises to Zion is not given through the Torah, but by Jesus directly to Abraham. His seed is Isaac. Than came Jacob, and the ten tribes of Israel.
As I have said multiple times: If the eternal promises promises given by God of the Bible, the Christian faith is a hoax. Jesus is just some kind of mythological figure. You can freely chose the Bible verses that suits you, and delete the rest.
Todd… So am I to understand that Paul and the writer of Hebrews have done away with the need to believe Messiah … because my Messiah teaches ‘If you love Me, keep My commandments.’
‘I did not come to abolish the law (Torah) but to fulfill it (give it completeness).’
‘He who teaches men to disobey the least of these (commandments) will be least in the kingdom of heaven … He who teaches men to obey them will be great in the kingdom of heaven.’
‘Many will come to me in that day saying Lord, Lord, didn’t we do miracles in your name, didn’t we chase out demons ? I will say to them, away from Me you lawless ones… I never knew you’.
Your logic needs to be reversed. Discard anything that doesn’t line up with what Messiah taught. He is the sum total of scripture … not Paul.
Ivar and Peter
greetings and peace
Am I not to believe the words of the apostle Paul. Are his words not inspired by God.Peter you recited the words of Jesus, and I am agreement with them. When Jesus spoke those words the new Covenant had not yet come to fullfillment. Israel was still under mosaic law covenant. New Covenant began with his shed blood. Now ,I do believe that when one loves Jesus and believes in him then new life is given to that one to walk in newness of life.
That work is accomplished through the holy spirit living in that one’s life. Yes Ivar, Abrahams righteousness is because of his belief,no arguing that,and so is righteousness that comes to anyone who believes. Is the blood of bulls and goats still required to cover sin? No. Is their a role for a high priest today.No because Jesus is our geat High priest. Can we approach God without going to a priest? yes. We can access God through our great high priest. Because of what Christ did,their is no longer a need for the covenant of law that required one to obey it. Peter and Ivar are you able to follow the law. I hardly think so. So Messiah came and did the work that law was powerless to do. The Law should have pointed all who tried to obey it to Christ because no one could keep it. If Paul’s words are not inspired by God/Christ then we might as well throw out the entire bible because it cant be trusted. Paul said those things under the inspiration of God. Twas and still is difficult for Jewish people to accept that all who believe are Abraham’s children and heirs to the promise. Was he just saying that to stir up trouble among his fellow men or is it the truth?
Dear Todd.
Shalom.
The classical error of replacement theology “Jesus”, is that He is not the author of the Old Testament. So He is not bound by any eternal promises given to the Jewish people. Such a Messiah is a copy. He can not save Him self, and can not save anyone who believe in such falsehood.
Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever. He is the author of the old covenant, the Torah and Tannak and the New Covenant.
Let me underline this one more time.
1. The New Covenant in the blood of Jesus have replaced the Old covenant of blood of doves and bulls. The New Covenant is therefor a better covenant. God has forgiven our sins once and for all. This is the messages in the book of Hebrews.
2. Jesus is faithful to His eternal promises. He re-birthed the nation of Israel in 1948, and has since that day been the Rock of Zion.
3. The replacement theology “Jesus” hates the Jewish people, and wants to delete the state of Israel. He is like Balak and Balaam. The message is: – If you do not want to curse her, at least ignore Israel, so that Islam can do the dirty job.
Peter
Greetings and peace.
You say That we must follow the teachings of Christ not Paul and or the writer of Hebrews. Do you not consider their writings inspired by God. If you do not then for the most part you must be in disagreement with the most of the New Testament because Paul wrote 2/3 of it. Is that the case with you?
Hi Todd
The purpose of the Tanakh is to provide a foundation for proving Yeshua’s claim to Messiahship. The dead sea scrolls provide proof that it has not been tampered with. Do you have anything like that for me as evidence that Paul’s opinion regarding the importance of Torah is to be placed above Messiah’s ? If not then I suggest you believe Messiah rather than Paul wherever any issue comes up where Paul says something that appears to contradict what Messiah taught.
” ….my Messiah teaches ‘If you love Me,
keep My commandments.’” …..
amen.
This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us.
Then John, I have to ask why Christianity uses Paul’s writings to justify abolishing the commandments and other forms of replacement/dispensationalist theology…. when Messiah specifically taught that He did not come to abolish the commandments, but rather to explain them more fully. … and that if we profess to love Him, we are to keep His commandments.
Scripture is very clear that we are not to change anything in the Word to suit ourselves. Yet a brief look at the practices of Christianity as opposed to the original instructions contained in the dead sea scrolls, reveals much that is changed, added to or subtracted.
Is it any wonder then, that we find the leavened lump attempting to rise to the highest place by embracing abominations.?.
Peter Coch
Greetings and peace
You obviously do not believe the words of the new testament writers are inspired including Paul the apostle. The new testament to you would be a hoax.
This website is cool and all but it would be seen with more credibilty if the person that is typing the articles WOULD LEARN HOW TO SPELL PROPERLY…… Many of the words lack an “s” behind them, to where it seems like a child is typing them, and it needs to be corrected. And I say this with all due respect, not meaning to criticize you in any way. GODBLESS
I disagree Michael. I have no problem understanding anything ivarfjeld writes about. English is just not his first language. No problem …. shalom
Dear Peter.
Shalom, and thanks.
My English is bad. It is not my first language. I should use a spell check ore often. I promise to improve.
My strength is digging. I am a journalist. I also like to write in Tabloid, to make a clear point. The use of pictures are often the best way to expose evil.
Looks to me like the following hope/promise is offered to both Jew and Gentile.
4 Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. Rev 20
“Reign with Christ.” That’s as good as it gets !
Oh fools and slow of heart…..Luke 24:25.
Should you believe the Christian lie that the Laws are nailed to some PAGAN CROSS then you my dear friend are one of these FOOLS the Messiah was talking about. Read Rev.22:14 with out your Christian blinders,
Come see how Satan has deceived you.
http://www.yahweh.com
May Spirit Holy Bless your understaning
Okie
The moral guidance of the NT revealed Jesus Christ surpasses that of “the law.” By far.
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life;
no one comes to the Father but through Me.
Speaking directly to some Jews, [but applicable to all] Jesus said: “for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”
Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you,
unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
Of Jesus, John the Bapt said: “He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”
The Old and New Covenants are marriage Covenants. God made the Old Covenant with the Nation of Israel in Ancient Times. The Nation of Israel committed Harlotry and God Divorced them. By The Church’s Divorce doctrine, When you divorce one partner the other has to die before the other can re-marry. Jesus Christ came to Earth and Died for our sins. He was the God of the Old Covenant. Since He died, the Old Covenant(Which is the covenant with the Nation of Israel(the 12 tribes) the covenant of Abraham is a different covenant), since He died, the Old Covenant was done away. The Nation of Israel Now can re-marry anybody they want. The New Covenant is the Marriage Covenant with Spiritual Israel the Church. We have not made that covenant yet. That Covenant will be completed at the Marriage of the Lamb, at Christ’s Second Coming(which is soon). God made the Old covenant right away with the nation of Israel, they agreed to it. God is Not making the New Covenant, until he comes back. It is so He can test us, and make ready the Bride(the Church) and so he can make sure we will developed the right Character to keep our word. We MUST be Faithful to our Husband Jesus Christ. The Nation of Israel in ancient times broke their word and committed Harlotry. so God Divorced them. We Must keep our word, or God will Divorce us also. See this for a better explanation
http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/81449032?access_key=key-2906g93w33gvzez386z3
Timothy
greetings and peace
Yes both covenants are marriage covenants,and yes God/Christ
gave Israel a certificate of divorce and sent her on her way because of her adultery with other gods. Another angle when it comes to a relationship that Christ has with the church. Jesus is our great high priest and according to levitical law a high priest comes under strict rules as to who he is allowed to marry. He cannot marry a widow,a harlot or a divorced woman. Only a virgin from his own people. Paul the apostle wrote to the corinthians that they had been presented to Christ as a virgin.
Christ is married to the church because the church is presented to him as a virgin.
Each believer is made new to walk in newness of life. A virgin
without spot or blemish. Any one including an Israeli or Jew or Muslim or Italian …etc who believes by faith in messiah Jesus
receives this new life. Some do not believe that the apostle Pauls words were inspired,and are only his opinion. And yes also: The covenant God/Christ made with Abraham is a different covenant
than he made with the nation of Israel. Abrahams covenant has no strings attached,and is an everlasting covenant and the one that was made with ancient nation of israel has many strings. Blessings and curses
The “new covenant” has been availible
since Jesus was given “all power in heaven and earth.”
Along with multiple millions [Jew/Gentile no matter] since then,
I have a convenant with Jesus.
This is the deal,…
I put heed and put faith in Jesus,….
and Jesus takes care of me now and forever.
heed, not “put heed” [editor feature is nice !]
Paul was a great servant of Jesus Christ. There is no conflict tween them.
Wrong Todd; I do indeed believe the words of NT writers are inspired by YHWH. Those of the disciples provide evidence that Messiah is true to His Word (Torah, Prophets, etc). Those of Paul provide in part, a test, also inspired by YHWH, whereby His remnant can determine for themselves whether they truly believe Messiah is the entire purpose of the scriptures. SHould they find themselves using something Paul wrote to counter something Messiah taught concerning His commandments, then it’s time to go back to the beginning and prayerfully start over again.
Peter
Thank you for your response back. You said “Those of Paul provide in part a test, also inspired by YHWY, whereby his remnant can determine for themselves whether they truly
believe Messiah is the entire purpose of the scriptures”. Where is it mentioned that his words are a test. I have missed that. However;I do believe everything he wrote did prove that Messiah is the entire purpose of scripture. He also proved that Messiah was the saving grace for all mankind. Scripture foreknew that the gospel was going to be for everyone, when he announced it to Abraham. Through your seed all nations would be blessed. It would not just only be the nation of Israel that would receive it.
Is that not correct thinking?
Dear Todd.
Shalom.
Since we both believe Paul understood the Gospel, please take this teachings to your heart.
Romans 15:8-10
For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God’s truth, so that the promises made to the patriarchs might be confirmed and, moreover, that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy. As it is written:
“Therefore I will praise you among the Gentiles;
I will sing the praises of your name.”
Again, it says,
“Rejoice, you Gentiles, with his people.”
Ivar
Thanks
It is morning here in US
So good morning to you
I like it when we agree
and I will take it to heart.
If the commandments have been done away with as you imply then I guess the rod of iron that Messiah will rule with in the sabbath millennium can’t possibly be referring to His Torah commandments.
Zechariah gives us a glimpse of Messiah’s Millennial rule.
Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. If any of the peoples of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, they will have no rain. If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain. The LORD will bring on them the plague he inflicts on the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. This will be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. (Zechariah 14:16-19)
How interesting … seems Torah will be implemented by Messiah in the Sabbath Millennium. Why then would He do away with the need for Torah in the 4th to 6th millenniums ?
Your argument is flawed according to scripture.
“Then John, I have to ask why Christianity uses Paul’s writings to justify abolishing the commandments …….”
Jesus’s COMMAND to “love one another” and His NT revealed word/example constitites moral guidance which far SURPASSES “the commandments.”
‘“For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven”
For instance: the OT law says “don’t steal” and “don’t kill” which is ELEMENTARY ethics.
Whereas the example of Jesus is constant giving and healing.
“Give to everyone who asks of you, and whoever takes away what is yours, do not demand it back. ….Give, and it will be given to you.
If someone steals your jacket, give them your shirt also….. turn the other cheek …. go the extra mile …” SURPASSES the OT “law”
The Revelation of Jesus Christ is a letter directly from God.
How one treats a letter reveals what one thinks of the sender.
Nominal Christians,… “Christians” still in organized religion,..
are ignoring [if not scorning] the following:
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John,
2 who testified to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw.
3 Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of the prophecy, and heed the things which are written in it; for the time is near.
But He answered and said, “It is written,
‘ MAN SHALL NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE, BUT ON EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD.’”
More on (done away with) Torah in the Sabbath Millennium;
According to Ezekiel, the most prominent feature of Millennial Israel will be its Temple, The Temple will have an outer court and an inner court. Each has gates facing East, North and South. Inside each inner gate is a room for preparing animal sacrifices (Ezek. 40:38-39), which will clearly be the order of the day during the Kingdom Age. There will be sacrifices for the year, the month, the week, and the day, in addition to those for the three remaining Levitical Feasts, Passover (bulls and goats but no lamb), Unleavened Bread, and Tabernacles. These are all discussed in detail in Ezekiel 45:13 – 46:15.
So now we know that animals will be sacrificed regularly through out the Millennium. They’ll be called sin offerings, guilt offerings and burnt offerings, just like in Leviticus.
I think you better explain to Messiah that He not allowed to do that.
AS Abraham was willing to sacrifice his only son to God, so God offered His Son as the final blood offering for sin. The Jewish religion of the blood sacrifice in the Temple ended with this free will offering by Jesus.
I read here someone thinks the Dome on the Rock is Daniel’s abomination that makes desolation. Understand this, But when you shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that reads understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
Luke 13:14
I think the more accurate reality and Spirit of the letter in the Spirit of these Times is seeing the A-bomb-i-Nations where it ought not be.
There are many voices in temporal Israel calling for the destruction of the Dome on the Rock so the Jews can rebuild the Jewish Temple.
And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
Ray. Interesting observation, but one short sentence from John saying he saw no temple doesn’t necessarily mean that Ezekiel’s in depth description of one was sucked out of Ezekiel’s thumb
John: If the law is so elementary then surely it should be no problem for those indwelled by the Ruach to keep it . Perhaps this is why we have Messiah’s ‘If you love Me, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS.
Wrt to testing, Pro 25:2 The glory of God is to hide a thing; but the honor of kings is to search out a matter.
Pete
Greetings
I am dumb founded
Why would messiah want to put into place again the sacrificial system when he has made the sacrifice once and for all already.
by giving himself up for a randsome. That is to fall back. To make every one worship him through works. I mean that fly’s in the face of what he did at calvary. And just what is the spirit of understanding regarding “ruling with an iron scepter and a rod of iron. He does that now with me. His discipline with me is painful at times but it’s for my good, so that I will become more like him. And I can liken it to a rod of iron. I’m sorry but that just does not line up with the scripture.
HiTodd
Do you really imagine Messiah would have recommended a lifestyle that is bad for His people. The Torah was designed to free His people from slavery. I see many Christians still subject to bondage by this world (Egypt). Do we not struggle with serving two masters. The reason Christianity is so anti-Torah is because Constantine’s creed forbade anything even vaguely Hebrew in character and Luther just excascerbated the problem with his dirty little book ‘On the Jews and Their Lies’.. Don’t you ever wonder how you were persuaded to honour the first day of the week rather than the 7th day as instructed? Why not err on the right side of the line … even if you have no clue why you should keep the true sabbath, why not just do it because your Savior suggested we keep it?. The excuse is mostly that Christians keep sunday because it be the day of the Lord. What’s that supposed to mean? … that He rose from the grave on sunday. That’s not true. For the truth about this, go to http://www.facebook.com/notes/mariyah-merola/why-does-the-sabbath-day-point-to…-the-resurrection-i-will-raise-him-up-at-the-la/377715137108
He never once said that after He died and rose again we should deviate from His original instructions. In fact He did the opposite … He said ‘I came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it … every tittle and jot applies till heaven and earth pass’, Check outside … is heaven and earth still there? He also said that those who teach men to disobey the least of His commandments will be least in the kingdom and those who teach men to obey His commandments will be GREAT in His kingdom. Is that rocket science ? ‘If you love Me keep My commandments’ is the clincher … nowhere do I read ‘If you love Me, keep My commandments till Paul comes with different instructions.’
‘Many are called, few are chosen’. Are the billion or so people not keeping Messiah’s commandments more likely to be chosen than the few who at least try to keep as many as possible.?
It’s true that the sacrificial laws can’t be applied today, but according to Ezekiel, the only sacrifice that will be done away with in the Sabbath millennium will be that which previously involved lambs. Let’s give thanks for the Lamb Who died that we might be saved … and honour Him by loving Him the way He requested … by keeping His commandments.
There is only one Day that exists with God and that is always Today.
Peter
greetings
When one believes in Jesus,Messiah his word says that he puts his spirit in him. The prophets said the day would come when this would happened. It did happen. The apostles spoke the words of the prophets regarding this. His spirit lives in his people. This it why it was said” I will live among them and I will be there God ,and they shall be my people. He has written his laws on his people’s hearts so that they will not sin against him. His spirit lives in me. The spiritual side of me desires and strives to honor him by not sinning. My fleshly carnal side struggles to do the opposite. Praise be to Christ that I overcome my fleshly side more often. My hope in Christ is that I sin less. God knows my heart and when my flesh is trying to win out he convicts me of that. This is accomplished by his spirit that lives in me. My honor to God is a daily observance, not just one day of the week. As you say to love him is to keep his commands. His spirit in me makes my “want to” to love him and keep his commands. While I am endeavoring to follow his commands, sometimes I fail. It is then when I realize my failure in honoring him by keeping his command to love the Lord thy God with all my heart, That I ask him to forgive me. I can approach him through our great High Priest ,who is his son Jesus. His word says that he is faithful and just to forgive me and to cleanse me from all unrighteousness.
This is how I remain in a right relationship with God the father.
Thomas, you have seen and now you believe. From now on Blessed are those who have not seen yet believe.
Saul, who was on on a targeted assassination mission to wipe out this new sect of Judaism, never saw Jesus and had a conversion from one extreme to another. This was about as extreme as the Ayatollah of Iran greeting the Chief Rabbi of Israel with a kiss of Peace in Jerusalem, the City of Peace.
For God’s purposes Paul was assigned to be the Apostle of Faith for us who have not seen yet believe. I die daily and resurrect daily he wrote. We must die daily to the ways of the Flesh and resurrect daily to the ways of Christ striving to be as perfect as out Father in Heaven. This is a lifetime of daily effort on our part.
Jesus taught I go and prepare a place for you so that where I AM, you may be also.
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
To him that OVERCOMES will I grant to SIT WITH ME in my throne, even as I ALSO OVERCAME, and AM set down with my Father in his throne.
He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. Revelation 3
Jesus does forgive our sins as we make the conscious effort daily to overcome them and the ways of this world by the constant renewal of the mind and cleansing of the heart.
Ray Joseph Cormier
I can see that you have made it through the spam filter. I saw you first did a test in a singular line. Now you are back commenting with great confidence.
Let me underline that you are not welcome on this site. Please go to other sites, that might permit your false universal teaching.
pc :”If the commandments have been done away with as you imply then I guess the rod of iron that Messiah will rule with in the sabbath millennium can’t possibly be referring to His Torah commandments.”
“The Messiah will rule” WITH the saved of the end time generation.
[which I am confident is our generation]
As per “Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. ”
“reigned WITH the Messiah”
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31 “Behold, days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, 32 not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,” declares the LORD. 33 “But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares the LORD, “I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 They will not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,” declares the LORD, “for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”
It’s amazing to me that Judaism and Christianity have the same attitude to Messiah’s commandments (Torah)…. come let’s change them to be more compatible with modern man and his traditions. Hence we end up with Talmudism and Mishnah from Judaism and Replacement theology from Christianity. All this despite ‘If you knew Moses, you would Know Me’ … and ‘if you love Me, keep My commandments’. Why is it so hard to understand?
Paul was referring to the sacrificial and levitical law or the Mosaic law and not the TEN COMMANDMENTS as he was clearly speaking of what came four hundred and thirty years after GOD gave the promice to Abraham……
How very sad that the deceived christian world really believe they have a “New Testament”. Just another lie from the lying preachers that were deceived by the Devil. Remember what the TRUE MESSIAH said in Luke 24:25 and don’t be one of those christian fools!
Okie
Paul was referring to the sacrificial law and not to the TEN COMMANDMENTS as he was speaking of what came four hundred and thirty years later
okieshowedem, in light of Luke 24:25,
what do you make of Jerimiah 31:31-34 ?
sorry about glitch double post,… perhaps admin will delete one
Remember the Scriptures tells us that the end would come on this unbelieveing world and take them by supprize.
Don’t be deceived only believe ALL that the prophets have spoken.
Come see what a great PLAN Father Yahweh has in store for those who love Him and His dear Son Yahshua Messiah.
http://www.
B.D.613
See what a great PLAN God has for those who love God’s Son Jesus Christ. It is in The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants,….
Say John
Mind telling me how many Gods you can name?
I know that the great apostles warned us of many God in Acts 19.
He also pointed out that Satan is the God of this world in 2 Cor.4:4 is this the God you are talking about?
The Hebrews worshiped only Yahweh Who sent His beloved Son YAHSHUA MESSIAH. Do you have another God?
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B.D.613
I accept what the NT revealed Jesus Christ said to God the Father:
“This is eternal life, that they may know You,
the only true God,
and Jesus Christ whom You have sent “
No matter what I think, you lot just ignor it. So up your own fucking areses, No church deserves any wealth at that level – What for? preaching about an asumption based on bullying opinions over the top morons waffling on about god this god that, total trite .
your all gonna burn in hell!!!!!!!!!
There are sooo many “facts” that are wrong in this article. Catholics don’t worship the pope. The priests laying on the ground are most likely receiving the sacrament of Holy Orders, i.e. being ordained priests. The pope is always considered infallible by Carholics in matters of faith, no matter what kind of furniture he is or is not sitting on at the time. Catholics believe in the Holy Trinity, that God the Father, Jesus the Son (considered to be both human snd divine), and the Holy Spirit are ONE. To a Muslim this would be considered “shirk,” which is worshiping more than the One True God, which is a grave sin. Muslims do not believe in the divinity of Jesus. Muslims believe that Jesus is a prophet and a messenger, but, again, not God, so not someone who can be worshiped. So, the two groups would never be able to reconcile the descrepancy in their beliefs, seeing as they are somewhat diametrically opposed. They could never worship together. Also, Muslims believe that Jesus did not die on the cross, rather that a twin or look-a-like (believed to be Judas) died in his place. Muslims also believe Jesus was assumed into heaven and did not die here on earth. Again — Catholics believe Jesus is God and God’s son at the same time and that he died on the cross to save mankind, then came back from the dead and was assumed up to heaven and later sent the Holy Spirit, also God, down. Catholics don’t worship the pope. They don’t worship saints either, they just ask saints to talk to God for them, like when you want to ask your dad for something and you think if you can get your mom or someone else to help you ask you might get a better result.
It’s painfully amusing to see how misinformed this entire post and thread is….lol
listen up brothers and sisters, we have become comfortable to the mark of the beast, it has been sitting there under our noses for 1000s of years, making sure that we won’t notice it when it become in fact law.
God is calling us to wipe clean all the pagan related insertions to our church: christmas, easter, statues, images, symbols, and yes even sunday worship.
what is the 1 commandment he gave us that says it will be a covenant that seals who are his children are. those that have not REMEMBERED that commandment are following the doctrines and commandments of men; therefore we have excepted the mark of the beast. SUNDAY IS NOT THE SABBATH
Be advised since Christ rose, every day is the same. See Romans 14:5
Which day did Messiah Himself keep as Sabbath ? Are we to emulate perfect, provable Messiah or fallible, unprovable Paul ? Did Messiah ever say that we should rather start following Paul’s words once He’d ascended?
Grace and mercy are not meant to provide an excuse for disobedience (sin)…. they provide forgiveness … not justification for sin. Ditch Paul if he confuses you…. Messiah provides clarity … stick to His words.
15 And certain men [like Peter Coch]
came down from Judaea and taught the brethren, saying,
Except ye be circumcised after the custom of Moses, ye cannot be saved. …………
“8 And God, who knoweth the heart, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Spirit, even as he did unto us;
9 and he made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith.
10 Now therefore why make ye trial of God, that ye should put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11 But we believe that we shall be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in like manner as they. ……….”
Dear John Prewett
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
I know you wrote your poem to Peter Coch, but I would like to contribute with a poem about you.
And John came down from the plains of Damascus, and said to the Jews and gentiles: “You do not have to pay attention to the commands of God. Jesus does this for us, so we can do whatever we like, as long as we say we love the Lord”.
– THE good sheep recognoze the voice of their sheepered ? the Faith of Ibraham is the faith of Moses ( jessus came to fulfile moses Law means the same faith ) Same faith of king David and king Soliman and finally prophet mohammed confirmaing all of the above including the true jessus teachings and the true Bible with the most updated Godly message ” the Quran ” –
To whom it may concern:
“21 I do not make void the grace of God: for if righteousness is through the law, then Christ died for nought.”
To all who think they know more about the place of “the Law” in relation to salvation in Jesus than Jesus’s handpicked apostle Paul [also see Acts 15],…. I don’t think you do. However, it’s a free country and have a nice day.
Dear John Prewett
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
The relationship between the law and grace is a 3.000 year old topic. The Jews were always saved by grace. From Moses to King David. Today, the law convince us about sins, through rebukes given by the Holy Spirit.
Galatians 6:2
Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfil the law of Christ.
Jesus the Messiah is the lawgiver.
Jesus the Messiah fulfilled the law in regards to blood sacrifice needed for the forgiveness of sins.
Jesus the Messiah has put the law in our hearts, and the Holy Spirit convince us of sins. (lawlessness).
Jesus the Messiah is the judge, that will use His laws to give a fair judgment.
“I know you wrote your poem to Peter Coch, but I would like to contribute with a poem about you. And John came down from the plains of Damascus, and said to the Jews and gentiles:
“You do not have to pay attention to the commands of God. Jesus does this for us, so we can do whatever we like, as long as we say we love the Lord”.
I don’t appreciate words being attributed to me that I did not say.
“The relationship between the law and grace is a 3.000 year old topic. ” Right, and that relationship was settled as per Acts 15 and letters from Paul.
I accept/believe that Paul spoke for Jesus about His followers relationship to “the Law” If you/anyone accept same,…. then fine,… we are in agreement.
If you think Paul in any way erred or wrote falsehood, then please elaborate on his error or falsehood.
my speech was limited to” Faith in one god “to be united under God.
we all should stand for freedom to reach the truth.—————–
— but although we live in a free country, still we witness one of our fellow citizens on the run just because he stand against spying on the citizens of that free country? which is diffrent from what it was before in ” Nixon’s Era “? also we witnessing some Evile forces trying to disarm our fellow citizens to have advantage\control over our citizens? this is against freedom principles? and thank God for our good American citizens in the justice department who stand up against George Bush junior who was trying to open political prisons in U.S until he had to move it to other countries to manipulate the system. we all have to keep working to keep ” Freedom ” alive with justice.
To peter coch: Jesus was under the law. We who are in Jesus now are not.
another Paulian concept …. this is how replacement theology evolved. Ever wondered what exactly is being ‘replaced’? It’s Messiah’s words that get replaced …. with Paul’s….. eg
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
Mat 7:23 “And then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!’
In a way I can understand the attractiveness of replacing Messiah’s teaching with Paul’s … it feels a whole lot better to justify lawlessness than to try to be compatible with the will of our Father in heaven… thanks but I’d rather repent for my wretched incompatibility with Father’s will than try to justify it. Think for a moment about why such importance was attached to preserving the dead sea scrolls as proof of the validity of the OT instructions. Can one prove what Paul said by comparing it to the original scrolls.? On the other hand, everything Messiah taught is 100% compatible with what He dictated to Moses… Replacement (Paulian) theology is a cop-out. Ditch it for the truth.
The most hard core “law keepers” that ever existed got the Messiah crucified.
Now there’s evidence of ignorance … those who put Messiah to ‘death’ on a stake were (obviously) not keeping His Torah instructions. They kept traditions of men known as mishna and talmud. Most of Christianity has a similar problem …. they call it replacement theology, prosperity gospel, dispensationalism, etc, etc, ad-nauseum and thus come to such faulty conclusions as just displayed.
Quote from the beginning of the article.
“What dose Islam and the Papal religion have in common? More than you probably are aware of.”
The first and foremost thing they have in common is illustrated in a quote from Jonathan Edwards.
“The two great works of the devil which he wrought against the Kingdom of Christ are . . . his Anti-Christian (Romish or Papal) and Mahometan (Muslim or Islamic) kingdoms, which have been, and still are, two kingdoms of great extent and strength. Both together swallow up the Ancient Roman Empire; the (Papal) kingdom of the Antichrist swallowing up the Western Empire; and Satan’s Mahometan kingdom the Eastern Empire . .”
Two works of the devil. One against Christ, the other, in place of Christ.
Dear Dave 1543
Shalom.
You wrote:
Two works of the devil. One against Christ, the other, in place of Christ
First:
Thanks for being back ministering on this blog. May Jesus use you to guide people about His ways.
You are absolutely correct. The anti-Christ is against the Messiah in the sense that He has been replaced. By a copy cat. Anti-Christs introduce to us copy-cats. They follow a “Messiah”, but not the Messiah of the Bible.
Dear all readers.
Shalom.
I have spammed Oldman. He has been told not to publish Vatican approved booklets on this site, but refused to listen to the instruction from the editorial desk.
May His soul not be sent to hell, because of this adoration and submission to the antichrist in Rome. May He find the truth, and be found in the Kingdom of Heaven. Amen.
Hello ivarfjeld, Praise God,
I love your zeal for the Lord.
Gal 4:18 But it is good to be zealously affected always in a good thing…
Rev 13 + 14 describe the “mark of the Beast” and the terrible fate of those that take this “mark”. I confident the “mark” is not about having a special day to worship God. Christians are to be led of God’s Spirit EVERY DAY. There is no special day to be extra led of the Spirit. I’m confident Apostle Paul was hand picked by Jesus to be the chief explainer of the place of the Law in light of Jesus Christ. Sabbath keepers think Paul was ignorant/decieved. I think Ellen White was.
Main problem with this logic is it’s fruit. The ghastly fruit of catholic traditions of men as introduced by Constantine and co and maintained by most of churchdom (including so called protestantism which methinks didn’t protest enough) is visible for all to see today… lawlessness, charismania, gay pastors/churches, prosperity gospel, child molestation,… need I go on ?
The Humble Beginning of Church cc
So, Simon, did you get the franchise?
Sorry Eminence, its not for sale … not at any price
But I hung around to investigate a bit
and guess what? One can’t actually see this famous Spirit
So its not like it can be copyrighted
We too can start our own spirit business
The action is all on Sunday
Not like we thought, on the sabbath
They don’t touch money on the sabbath
So everyone gets together on sunday
to handle money matters
buying animals and then killing them to eat
Its called tithing. Real weird
Our church, on the other hand, already meets on sunday
I mean, like we invented SUN day
All we need do is start charging 10% tax
So what do you think boss?
Any chance of that raise you mentioned?
Well done Peter, I like your way with wit and sarcasm, kudos brother.
Unfortunately Torahless Churchyites will never get it.
RC [and her family of cults] is not a fruit of being led by God’s Spirit. Rather God’s Spirit leads people to understand and heed Jesus’s command to “come out of her MY people”.
A main problem with the “Sunday worship is mark of beast” false doctrine is that people who believe and cling to it will not recognize the real “marking” when it comes to pass.
To date the only RC inspired (Christian) denomination that has actually come out of the Babylon/Egypt of replacement theology is that of the Amish people who recently made a public display (most unusual for them) of renouncing the false doctrine and apologising for having not doing so long ago. Are you, John, prepared to acknowledge that mainstream Christianity’s doctrine known as replacement theology is founded on error ? … and if so, how should Christianity adjust it’s perspective of the House of Israel (so despised by church fathers like Constantine, Luther, etc.
What has amazes me, is that Christianity chooses to remain so attached to the obviously false doctrines of RC that form its backbone. Paul provides a ‘perfect’ platform for not having to restore the original foundation as provided by Messiah via Moses. This was understandable in a sense, until the OT proof provided by the Dead Sea scrolls became commonly available. AT that point, replacement theology should have been thrown out by the churchdom of Christianity, but it wasn’t. Why? … because it had become endemic to prosperity gospel … the gospel of profiteering from the Word of YHWH. That’s exactly how Paul’s word became more important than Messiah’s word and to this day is still used to contradict the emphasis Messiah placed on keeping His commandments (fulfilled, enlarged Torah). Those ‘Jews’ who ‘crucified’ ‘Jesus’ followed traditions of men rather than Messiah’s Torah … so does Christianity. Traditions of men are attractive because they tend to attract money. ‘That which men highly esteem is abomination to YHWH’.
Note that I’m not saying that the ALmighty will not use manmade institutioand reveal His glory through them/ within them. I’m saying that once He does so, it should create a hunger for truth … not complacency.
Dear Peter Coch,
You are thinking of what “mainstream Christianity” [organized religion] [denominations] should do to get right with Jesus/God.
I am concerned with what an individual must do to get/stay right with Jesus/God.
An individual need never have heard of [nor take a stand for or against] “replacement theology.”
One’s salvation does not depend on understanding what is meant by “replacement theology” nor upon what one thinks of it.
One pitting Jesus word against the word of Jesus’s servant Paul is making an error.
One discrediting Paul should never think of themself as a “bible believer” because Paul’s words make up most of the New Testament and the NT is part of the “Bible.”
Jesus earthly life was lived UNDER THE LAW.
Jesus kept the law for me.
I’m saved by faith in Jesus and not saved by heeding “the Law”
I need never even read “the Law”
Jesus word, example and Spirit inspires one to be BETTER than “the Law” requires.
For instance: Law says “don’t steal” which is elementary moral guidance.
Jesus Spirit says “give all you can and if stolen from GIVE MORE” which is more ADVANCED moral guidance than that of “the law”
Law says “Sabbath is special day to think of and worship God”
Jesus Spirit says “have Jesus in your mind and heed and serve Jesus EVERY DAY”
The Sabbath is a sign as to who God’s people are and who are not His, and I am quite confident Yeshua (Jesus) would say I am correct on that. Sunday Sabbath is a trick and a lie of hasatan (the adversary, the devil, the god of this world, the great deceiver).
The Roman Catholic church has indeed replaced Jesus Christ with their own Christ. Like our Lord told us,
Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
The Catholic church refers to the pope as “sweet Christ on earth”. If you don’t believe that, or if you try to deny that, just go to the official Vatican website and read. From the second sentence, Congregation for the doctrine of the faith, the message of Fatima, read where they call pope John Paul II, the unholy father, “sweet Christ on earth”.
Catholic mystics also call pope the “sweet Christ on earth”. Pope Paul VI quotes St. Catherine, refering to the unholy father as “sweet Christ on earth”. It’s there to read at the Vatican website. The line of men in the papacy surely looks like “the many” that will come in His name saying I am Christ, the parade of unholy fathers down through the centuries.
Here are some New Jersey nuns and the current unholy father, pope Ratzinger, who they call “sweet Christ on earth”.
http://nunsopsummit.org/archives/2046
Nuns and priests do get saved and come out of the Catholic church. We need to show mercy by praying for them, that God would open their eyes.
The Constantine Creed (by default the creed of all “Christians”)
“I renounce all customs, rites, legalisms, unleavened breads and sacrifices of lambs of the Hebrews, and all the other feasts of the Hebrews, sacrifices, prayers, aspirations, purifications, sanctifications, and propitiations, and fasts and new moons, and Sabbaths, and superstitions, and hymns and chants, and observances and synagogues. absolutely everything Jewish, every Law, rite and custom and if afterwards I shall wish to deny and return to Jewish superstition, or shall be found eating with Jews, or feasting with them, or secretly conversing and condemning the Christian religion instead of openly confuting them and condemning their vain faith, then let the trembling of Cain and the leprosy of Gehazi cleave to me, as well as the legal punishments to which I acknowledge myself liable. And may I be an
anathema in the world to come, and may my soul be set down with Satan and the devils.” (Stcfano Assemani, Acta Sanctorium Martyrum Orientalium at Occidentalium, Vol. 1, Rome 1748, page 105)
Furthermore, any follower of the “Jewish Messiah” (Yeshua HaMashiach) who wished to join this “holy community” was compelled to adopt a different set of rules and customs. Subsequently special creeds were drafted, to which the Christian would have to swear such as:
“1 accept all customs, rites, legalism, and feasts of the Romans, sacrifices. Prayers, purifications with water, sanctifications by Pontificus Maxmus (high priests of Rome), propitiations, and feasts, and the New Sabbath “So! dei” (day of the Sun, ), all new chants and observances, and all the foods and drinks of the Romans. In other words, I absolutely accept everything Roman, every new law, rite and custom, of Rome, and the New Roman Religion.”
Additionally, in approximately 365 AD, the Council of Laodicea wrote, in one of their canons: Christians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day. Rather, honoring the Lord’s Day. But if any shall be found to be Judaizers, let them be anathema (against) from Christ”.
Concerning Antiochus Epiphanes…
He set up an image of Zeus in the Temple which was the Abomination of Desolation spoken of in Daniel 11. For 3 years, he continued to desecrate the Temple.
These were the new laws that Antiochus set up:
Thou shall profane the Sabbath
Thou shall change the set times (festivals) and laws
Thou shall set up idols
Thou shall eat unclean animals
Thou shall not circumcise
Thou shall forget the Torah
3 years and 2 months later, the Temple was taken back and rededicated. This is known as the Feast of Dedication, or Festival of Lights, or Hanukkah.
What’s really is ironic…..these laws were created by an antichrist Antiochus, and are the same things Constantine would later repeat and this is what people want to live by today. Totally going against God’s Word. People today are living under laws created by Antiochus and Constantine; an antichrist.
Matthew 24:15 “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation, ‘ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), 16″then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. 18And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. 19But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.
Matthew 7:23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Romans 6:19 I speak in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves of uncleanness, and of lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness.
Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, 12 teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age, 13looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, 14who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works.
1 John 3:4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.
John 14:19 “A little while longer and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also. 20At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you. 21He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him.”
Revelations 12:17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Act 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
E. White and her false prophesys I presume to be still around…how unfortunate. Well, I’m not sure if the pope is the anti-christ or not, but one thing I do know is he is a part of the “great deception” of the last days (a false system of worship)..it is also appearant that most of what calls itself christian, is not!! The only true church is made up of those who not only Love and obey the Saviour, but believe by faith that He and He alone paid the full complete sin dept….it seems there is a “church on every corner”, but I would say that most of them are religeous and most in them are lost as a wild goose in winter….its a number game to most pastors, but still there are those in them that know the Lord in truth. The Body of Christ is alive and well…but few in number. Jesus is coming soon! are you ready? Ray
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THE VATICAN “CREATED” ISLAM!
http://avenueoflight.com/2010/11/papal-throne-jerusalem-islamic-connection/
It was not for nothing that the 2nd Vatican Council said Jews, Muslims, and Roman Catholics worshipped the same God. This was laying the foundation for the one world religion that is waiting at the door to take the stage. As a former Roman Catholic, now Baptist, I point out the large number of flip flops in doctrine made by the Roman church. Their slogan has long been, Semper Edam, “always the same.” Anything but nowadays. Pope Pius X confirmed higher criticism of the Bible, but pro-Nazi pope Pius XII approved it. Pope Urban II proclaimed a crusade to fight Islam, he would have thrown up had he seen the current Pope showing respect to Muslim prayers in the Blue Mosque. Not a few Greek Orthodox would have been disgusted. I did not see the Ecumenical Patriarch at the service! How would those who fought the Turks at Vienna in 1683 have felt? Or the heroes of Lepanto in 1571? I’ll bet Armenians, and Greeks who know Turks for the Barbarians they are, did not celebrate!
And just to round off my point, IF popes since Vatican 2 have not bothered to keep faith with their predecessors, why should any other Roman Catholics? Come out of this false church and believe in Jesus by faith alone!
correct! it is all LUCIFER “SUN” WORSHIP / BABYLON “MYSTERY” RELIGION / 666
http://avenueoflight.com/2012/09/1723/
The author of this blog is utterly wrong when saying that “Both Roman Catholicism and Islam is included in Gods plan of saving mankind, since both represent the children of God of Abraham”
False! It’s an evil lie! Both catholics and muslims are the children of Satan, and they are deceived, in the same way as the author of these lies. To those who do not understand, read the Bible: Only there is Salvation through Jesus Christ, the Son of the True All Mighty God, YHVH, Yahweh, also Jehovah: “This is my Name forever”, says the Lord (Ex 3:15).
In light of this week’s news (Pope Benedict retiring, Vatican being hit by lightning,) and last week’s news (Pope reached agreement with Netanyahu to give the Pope a chair in the room commonly understood to have housed the Last Supper, as well as giving the Holy See rights in other Christian sites in Jerusalem) – this article from 2009 is closer than ever to being proven to be based on correct suppositions.
Certainly all activity in Rome and Jerusalem, (and Babylon) is to be watched with interest. It’s time to read the Bible, know history, watch the news, love Jesus, and tell the world the Good News.
You are not a false prophet, the false prophet worships and gives glory to the anti-Christ. Thank you for sharing, God bless! See you in heaven, SOON!
I understand this story please can you display the whole story to everybody so that he or she can read themselves, this is last days of the world, Jesus is coming soon.
I don’t want to talk about people or believers of any religion, because people can do anything, I just wanted to give some Mecca instructions from Quran.
Muslims are not authorized to change their praying directions because it’s immobile and permanent by Quran.
Quran:
“2-125. Remember We made the House(125) a place of assembly for men and a place of safety; and take ye the station of Abraham as a place of prayer; and We covenanted with Abraham and Isma´il, that they should sanctify My House for those who compass it round, or use it as a retreat, or bow, or prostrate themselves (therein(126) in prayer).
2-144. We have seen the turning of thy face to heaven (for guidance, O Muhammad). And now verily We shall make thee turn (in prayer) toward a qiblah which is dear to thee. So turn thy face toward the Inviolable Place of Worship, and ye (O Muslims), wheresoever ye may be, turn your faces when ye pray) toward it. Lo! those who have received the Scripture know that (this Revelation) is the Truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do.
2-145. And even if thou broughtest unto those who have received the Scripture all kinds of portents, they would not follow thy qiblah, nor canst thou be a follower of their qiblah; nor are some of them followers of the qiblah of others. And if thou shouldst follow their desires after the knowledge which hath come unto thee, then surely wert thou of the evil doers.”
3-95. Say: “(Allah) speaketh the Truth: follow the religion of Abraham, the sane in faith; he was not of the Pagans(421).” *
3-96. The first House (of worship) appointed for men was that at Bakkah(422): Full of blessing and of guidance for all kinds of beings(423): *
3-97. In it are Signs Manifest; (for example), the Station of Abraham(424); whoever enters it attains security(425); Pilgrimage thereto is a duty men owe to Allah,- those who can afford the journey; but if any deny faith, Allah stands not in need of any of His creatures. *
3-98. Say: “O People of the Book! Why reject ye the Signs of Allah, when Allah is Himself witness to all ye do?””
So, Muslims can not select any other direction by themshelves to bow and make prostration.
The Quran says there are signs manifest at the Macca, Kaaba. I think that could be signs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Br1OatEQD8
All holly books are clear an all religions are perfect. But people are not. So I think all we need to be careful about devil. And I am very happy to see many believers here that means we may be wrong but least we all believing. So we’re safe.
God bless all of you.
This is so poorly written, that even if there is truth in it, most will be turned off by the numerous and blatant spelling and grammatical errors. The second line of the header says Dose where he means does; the second line below the first picture says non where he means none, then in the first line of the text it says lack where is should say lacks, and it goes on and on from there. Hard to read something this poorly written. Did he even proofread it??
So what their is grammar mistakes and spelling mistakes.I know what the writer means and have never had a problem understanding what he means in anything he has written. Ivar does a great job. He humbly tries to do his work well. God exalts the humble and resists the proud. Whoever you are you are very proud.Beware
AGREED, THERE ARE SPELLING ERRORS…MY TAKE WOULD BE… HE IS “NOT” AMERICAN????? YOU THINK???
Does it matter that ivar is not American? He’s Saviour is Jesus. Enough said. I support Ivar and appreciate all his hard work.
AGREED BROTHER…
Dear AVENUE OF LIGHT
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
English is not my native language. Sorry for my bad grammar.
BROTHER ivarfjeld; BLESSINGS IN THE HOLY FATHER’S NAME YHWH AND IN HIS SON’S NAME YESHUA. ACTUALLY I WAS DEFENDING YOU. I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOU EFFORT AND STANCE TAKEN AGAINST MAN’S ENEMY. IT APPEARS SOME WOULD RATHER SWAT AT A GNAT AND SWALLOW A CAMEL? AS SCRIPTURE SAYS IN THE LAST DAYS; WE ARE TO DRAW CLOSE TOGETHER; LET US AGREE ON WHAT WE CAN ACCORING TO SCRIPTURE AND WALK TOGETHER; RATHER THAN CONDEMN AND SEPARATE. MY TAKE ON IT….
The popes role is the false prophet not the antichrist the signs and wonders are only done by the false prophet rev 13:11-13 , rev 19:20 , and the coming of the Antichrist is by Satans power and the lying signs done by the false prophet 2 Thess 2:9 . the Antichrist doesn’t do signs and wonders
Also the reference to signs like Elijah in Revelation 13:13 is a false interpretation. it has nothing to do with Elijah , it has to do with the sign Solomon showed the people that God is with them in the temple and it was done in the middle of the people to confirm after it occurred the people fell down and worshiped. 2 Chronicles 7:1-3
where we’re going now, is it the end of world or revolution? Ok! Lets wait and see.
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THE “ABOMINATION” THAT “DESOLATES”!
Today hypocrisy begins. Cardinals in the Whore-“church” will go in conclave to elect its next leader. This is interesting on a prophetic level. I think that the new pope will be elected during the first election session, which will then (in my view) mean that the person is predetermined (primarily by the Illuminati and the Vatican).
If that does not happen in the first electoral session, it’s going to be several – five-six-perhaps ten to twelve electoral sessions (depending on how many each day) until they have found a “suitable candidate”. All this to hide that “election” has already been done.
Had this been by the Holy Spirit, it had been different, for He has no difficulty in deciding …
i am a jew in jerusalem. no matter what agreements are made by our corrupt leaders here,the pope is not coming to my city to take it over.never. in fact all the arabs will be leaving soon despite all their attempts to steal it by building 3 0,000 illegal homes all over the city.
you see it belongs to me,my nation. god gave us this land and we vomit out al l our enemies.
the resignation of the former pope why dont you check it out, why he ran.the court cases against the catholic church.this pope aint going to last long either,because he has his eye on my holy city
dont be fooled folks. i personally will rip out the eyes of anyone who looks in this direction.jews have survived christian persecution,muslim persecutions all through t he centuries.
nations came and went trying to steal my heart, my jerusalem. and we are here. that is all. and always will be.these are the days of gog and magog.god is cleaning the wicked out of the world
if you christians want to have a place here to come and praise god, you will not convert us, not by sword or by trick.you will respect us and come with clean hearts to our home and act like dignified visitors.
every year many of us go out to welcome the christians who cme at succot .its a lovely event.they come with so much ight and joy to be here in our holy city. remember that.its our city,respect that.
Ruth,
Your comment: dont be fooled folks. i personally will rip out the eyes of anyone who looks in this direction.jews have survived christian persecution,muslim persecutions all through t he centuries.
My comment: I have to say your comment is a bit disturbing. Jesus taught us to love our enemies. Remember that each of us will bow and confess to God.
Your comment: if you christians want to have a place here to come and praise god, you will not convert us, not by sword or by trick.you will respect us and come with clean hearts to our home and act like dignified visitors.
My comment: I am a Christian and I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior. I consider myself to be a Jew to and believe in God’s promise. If you believe in your heart and confess that Jesus is God, and you truly believe he has saved you, then when someone tries to convert you, that is when you speak of the love Christ has for you and everyone.
Papist persecuted Jews [and Christians labeled “heretic”].
But Christians [defined as followers of Christ] never persecuted anyone.
Amen, John
I am an American that is one of the taxpayers that has been financially supporting Israel for decades. It seems the height of hypocrisy to accuse the Arab people of steeling your land, to quote you as saying, “By building 30,000 “illegal” homes all over the city.” Illegal by whose estimation? Do the Jewish people remember a document put forth by the British around 1922 known as the “Balfour Declaration?” This was an illegal document that gave Jews from all over the world permission to immigrate to Palestine. And Jews flooded into Palestine by the millions and took over land that was owned by Arab families for centuries. The world turned it’s back on the indigenous Arab people during this time and said nothing when Jews stole Arab land from defenseless people. Then when the Arab people fought back they were put behind barbed wire where they remain today; just as the Nazi’s did to the Jews. When the Jews were put into concentration camps the Jews rightly cried out for help, but when the Jews put the indigenous Arab people behind barbed wire and make them prisoners in their own land then the Jews and the world turns a blind eye to the plight of the Arab people. If any of the Jewish people had ever taken the trouble to read the Balfour Declaration they would have read a line written into that document that said back in 1922, “That the rights of the indigenous Arab people must be expected. When have the Jews ever respected the rights of the Arab people who lived peacefully and grazed their sheep on their own land since the time of the Jewish Diaspora? The Jews stole the land from the Canaanites, then the Romans stole the land from them. When the Jews were sold into slavery by the Romans the Palestinian Arabs and the Sephardic Jews who were both Semitic people lived side by side for centuries until the influx of European Jews started to flood into Palestine at the end of WW II. Before any Jews in Israel start calling any Arab people thieves for “stealing land by building houses on land that was rightfully theirs, the Jews better start reading their history books and taking a good look in their mirrors.
Israel/Jew relationship to the land in question and Jerusalem in particular did not begin in 1922. See Bible for details.
This is remarkably stupid, poorly written, and profoundly ignorant. Please keep writing this stuff because it brings discredit to your views. As long as hillbillies keep writing stuff like this, educated people will continue to laugh at your beliefs. SO keep up the good work!!!!! Please.
— the AntiChrist
Don’t worry about Steve here, the Florida Heat is getting to him.
Keep up the good work ivarfjeld.
Don’t worry about Steve here, the Florida sun gets to him a lot.
He has a history of doing this around the blogs.(thinking he’s someone else :/) Anyway get better buddy!
Thank you for this article Ivarfield. Something that needs to be exposed!
I would rather think that you are remarkably stupid, who doesn’t understand that J’lem actually is the physical center of the world, the omphalos.
Who Is Lord God? Who Is Baal?
Click to access Booklet_Lord-God.pdf
Okie
Pope Benedict/AntiChrist,
I do pray that Ivar keeps up preaching and teaching the Word of God.
And as for you (pope benedict): 2 Corinthians 4:4 In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
You still haven’t answered the question and explained the discrepancy. How can Jesus Christ have fulfilled the scriptures if he is not of the biological line of David. I asked an honest question and you have descended into personalities. It is you who are ignorant of DNA, which is a creation of God. If I were you I would follow the advice of an old adage which teaches, “it is better to remain silent and be thought of as an idiot, then to speak and confirm the diagnosis.”
Dear Benita A. smith
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You wrote:
You still haven’t answered the question and explained the discrepancy. How can Jesus Christ have fulfilled the scriptures if he is not of the biological line of David.
My comment:
This is one of the key issues of true Christianity, that will expose the copies.
If Jesus the Messiah is not of the blood line of Jewish King David, He is not the Messiah. But a fiction, and a false-Messiah. The true Messiah warned us in advance, that many would come “In My name”, and deceive even the elect, if possible.
Jesus the Messiah, is from the Jewish tribe of Judah, and from the bloodline of King David.
If the messiah you follow has a Greek name he or it is not the Messiah written about in the HEBREW SCRIPTURES, sorry charlie.
The HEBREW MESSIAH has a HEBREW NAME! That Name will never change. YAHSHUA’S Name tells His story because YAHSHUA means YAHWEH’S SALVATION in the very Language that the Scriptures were written in. Jesus the Christ of the Christian religion is the AntiMESSIAH all the Hebrew prophets and the apostles of YAHSHUA warned about.
Go to The House Of Yahweh web site check out the free booklet “Who is Lord God” “Who is Baal”.
God worship in any form is a sin and an abomination to Father Yahweh. Repent and be converted. Acts 3:19.
May the same Spirit that inspired the prophets and apostles of YAHSHUA MESSIAH to write to us bless your understanding.
B.D. 613
Dear okieshowedem613
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
I have earlier banished the promoters of the cult named ” The House Of Yahweh “. I will do it again.
Anyone claiming that a correct Pronunciation of the Hebrew name of the Messiah is required for salvation, is off the mark. Let it be YAHSHUA, or whatever. I use my Norwegian language when I talk to the Messiah. I can also use English, or Hindi. I do not need to use YAHSHUA.
If I do not see repentance, do not even bother to write another comment. I will spam you.
9 G1He who turns away his ear from hearing the Law, even his prayers are an abomination. 10 He who causes
Hawkins, Yisrayl (2012-03-12). The Book of Yahweh, The Holy Scriptures, Tenth Edition, Ebook Version (Kindle Locations 30206-30208). The House of Yahweh. Kindle Edition.
According to the ancient, Old Testament, religious scriptures, the Messiah was supposed to come from the line of David. Yet we are told that not only was Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ born of a Virgin, but that she, herself, conceived Jesus through “Immaculate Conception,” by the Spirit of the Holy Ghost. That means that Mary remained a virgin, before, during & after the time of her conception of Jesus by the Holy Ghost. Even today, we are still told that Mary did not “know” a man (Joseph) sexually, at the time when the Holy Ghost placed Jesus into Mary’s womb. Therefore, Mary was already pregnant with Jesus, either by the miraculous actions of the Holy Spirit, Or by a process known as “parthenogenesis.” Either way, according to scripture, there never was any sexual contact between Joseph and Mary. So, this means that there was never any transfer of Joseph’s DNA into Mary’s womb. The only other logical conclusions that can be drawn by these facts, are that Jesus was not the “biological son” of Joseph and Mary; Jesus was only the “biological” son of Mary & the spirit of the Holy Ghost. Furthermore, if Jesus Christ, who was a real, live, Jewish man, who “historically” was born in first century, Judea; and whose death by crucifixion at the hands of the Romans was recorded by them and was even mentioned by the historian Josephus, then Jesus Christ was “Miraculously” the “biological son” of his mother Mary “alone.” Moreover, this means that the first and most incredible miracle surrounding the life of Jesus of Nazareth was, in fact, not his resurrection from the grave, but the remarkable and unique manner in which he was born; since we all accept the fact that Jesus was the first Human Man that was born without sexual intercourse, but through the process of parthenogenesis; which is scientifically still known as a process that has only taken place in lower animal species such as lizards; both before and after Jesus Christ was born. More importantly, it also means that Jesus could NOT have fulfilled the ancient Hebrew scriptural prophecy, that was required for him to actually be the Messiah and the Son of God come to earth. The ancient Hebrew scripture describes the coming Messiah as descending from the (blood) line of King David; whose blood and DNA was still running through Joseph’s veins, NOT Mary’s by the way. Therefore, Jesus could not have been the expected Messiah that the Jews were waiting for and are still waiting for, for thousands of years. Nor could Jesus have been the son of God, because He was not, and could not have been, descended from the line of David as was foretold in ancient Hebrew scriptures. Since Jesus was born of a Woman only, without the contribution of Joseph’s (male) sperm, then Jesus is NOT and could not have been the Messiah or the Son of God foretold in the Bible. Please explain this vast discrepancy that has been conveniently overlooked for the last several thousand years.
Benita,.. so Jesus couldn’t have been the Messiah because His Father really was God. Funny argument.
Benita is a little confused.
According to Scriptures (Luke) Mary was a descendant of King David, read it very carefully Benita, if I could see it you should too, guided by Ruach haKodesh.
Islam does not promote ” Racial ideas ” , King David and His son King Soleman are Islamic prophets , so maney of the israelis are moslems Now . but those who rejected God’s way been cursed and if they dont come back to God ? they will destroyed either they sons of king David or not ? === It is about God .===
Benita A. Smith is just another person, of whom we have seen many, trying to muddy the water and bring doubt. She should be more careful in what she posts. She wrote,
Quote,
” …. then Jesus is NOT and could not have been the Messiah or the Son of God foretold in the Bible.”
End of quote.
The Bible describes people like this.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
As far as the lineage of Jesus goes here is a link that will bring some light to her objections to Jesus being the Messiah.
http://www.wordofmessiah.org/9/post/2011/10/how-can-jesus-be-the-son-of-david.html
The link is only for the sake of argument. Christians know, absolutely, beyond doubt, that Jesus is the Messiah and the Son of God. We have the witness in ourselves with the Spirit of God confirming, and we also know the Spirit is the truth.
Dear dave1543
Shalom.
I feel you misunderstood Benita A. Smith. She was replying to a Catholic voice, and not rebuking any Christian.
This Catholic voice brand him self as “Pope Benedict”. Most likely a copycat-ID, and not a comment by the aging Pope Emeritus.
The end of this evil beastly system is in sight.
When the Christian religion has run it’s course and is exposed for the lie it is many will seek the truth at last.
That truth is that Satan as the God of this world has blinded the minds of those who reject the truth and they have believe the lie.
If you are among those who believes that God created anything you my friend are one of those whom Satan has deceived.
The Creator has a NAME it is YAHWEH, Father Yahweh is NOT A GOD!
Lets let the Scripture be true and all men lairs.
2 Cor. 4: 4 1For the gods (elohim) of this world (led by Satan) have blinded the minds of those who do not believe, so that the light of the message of the glory of the Messiah, Who is the image of Yahweh, should not shine unto them.
Just because you read English and this word god is not written as God does not mean that your God is not the devil.
Then there is warning found in Rev. 12: 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, who deceives the whole world. She was cast out into the earth, and her angels were cast out with her.
Here is how deceived you are as a Christian you really think that Satan is a male, how sad.
I guess that since you can’t count to 3 there is not much hope of you understanding the the 7th day is the Sabbath.
As a deceived Christian you keep Easter which is PAGAN to the core and most likely go to your little whore house on SunDAY.
You love Pigmass oh I mean ChristMASS too.
It’s O.K. you will die in your sins and be resurrected and be taught how the devil deceived you.
Sleep on dear deceived Christian your day will come.
B.D. 613
They are not ‘worshiping’ the pope, they are lying prostrate in in honor to God, not the pope.
Their god, maybe, but not the God of the Bible.
According to Islam , God is ONE and supreme even before the whole existanc. Second, all prophets invite to one God and love one onther. this is Jessus teaching and he came to fulfile Moses prophecy. obviously the diffrencies are man made .( Mathew 22 :36\40 ) –
Sorry Salem, that is ERRONEOUS.
Islam states that Allah is one. But Allah is not G-d, that is JHVH, the God of the Bible.
Repent, and sin no more.
Everyone will be held responsible to what he stand for ? – God did his part sending messengers(Prophets) with guidance( holy books ) and warnings from Evile and the son of Evile . every single individul will be judged according to his own detailed history ?
Who care what God thinks? The Creator Whose NAME IS YAHWEH is NOT a GOD! Satan is the God of this deceived world just as 2 Cor.4:4 tell us. Don’t be deceived only believe ALL that the prophets have spoken or you too will die as a FOOL , Luke 24:25.
Have a great day.
Okie
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:44 AM, News that matters wrote:
> Salem commented: “Everyone will be held responsible to what he stand > for ? – God did his part sending messengers(Prophets) with guidance( holy > books ) and warnings from Evile and the son of Evile . every single > individul will be judged according to his own detailed history” >
No any son of God!!
All world of God… no any son no any father no Mother …
God from Always… Allah ho Akbar..
It is about ” our Faith in the true GOD ” not about any location Jerosalem or not ? when we all get that right direction , we all can live in Peace with God’s Blessing.
Fake Messiah will lead many Jews. Since the Jews do not know the description of their messiah. They will follow the fake messiah
I assume you’re not talking about Messianic Jews but you really ought to qualify that. The Saviour himself taught his people that if they believed (followed) Moses, they would believe (follow) Him. Many Jews are coming to believe by being taught the same Torah Messiah Y’sHuWaH taught.
In islamic Faith we are all one ( son of adam , humans , mankind —) and created by ” The One God ” . this is the message ( one God ) and the messenger is all the prophets . Any other thing is false message who ever deliver such false message is ” false Messia ? . and everything we are going through is ( seperating the weeds from the wheats – Matthew 13:24-30 ) .
Perhaps this former Jesuit-commander is THE False Prophet preparing the path of the Anti-Christ who might start to overthrow the Iranian government en start to conquer the whole East ???
Fact is that there are 3 popes (Benedict XVI, former member Hitlerjugend; this Jesuit Francis and the black pope-the Jesuit General) !!
Dear Conan from Brussels
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
Thanks for this message. The Pope’s strongest card in the Muslim World, is their lack of a clear leadership. The Vatican has. The Pope can also be used as a peace broker between the Shia and Sunni Muslims. The PLO is a tool for the Vatican, now-a-days in “peace talks” with the Hamas.
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A great article that foresaw the rise of the Antichrist’s religion Chrislam. Here we have the groundwork being laid back in 2009. Here in 2014 we see the insanity and emergence of the One World Antichrist religion with the help of the Jesuit Pope and his wolf in sheep’s clothing act.
Islam have nothing to do with the ” Roman cross ” – Islam stands for Bible and jesus the son of mary – ( one god and love one onther ) the greatest comonment ever told.
Well this Pope thinks that his Catholic church plus Islam or Chrislam is compatible. I see nothing but a new Inquisition with both teams joining up to kill off the true Bible believers.
yes Islam has nothing to do with the “Roman cross” yes one GOD,but if you think killing and enforcing a religion on someone is loving or doing good service to god then you are wrong.I find that most Muslim seemingly enjoy a western style life style{ie}criminal activities selling drug’s,joining and/or working for gang’s,nightclubbing,gambling etc etc, HYPOCRITES,MURDEROUS HYPOCRITES,holding the world to account for not bowing to ALLAH,That is you’re perception of GOD/JESUS,He {Jesus}more then just the son of MARY the blessed
Yes , According to Islam this is not right . But this happening as a politics may be in the name of relagion ? but , what is happening to moslems around the world ? pushing some to act in that direction – check Google ” Gencide against moslems ” ?
– not to mention ” Iraq ” , Syria and mascaring egyptian Moslems ……For oil ? ? ?
– The world criminals do not care for any values ? EXAMPLE === ” the catholic pop” recognized Islam as the true faith of God for all prophets just like Jesus said – the POP is like a prophet himself – but world criminals “set him aside” ? misleading the whole world population just for their own intrest . This been going on since ” Jesus ” who mentioned in Quran as ” the word of god ” , ” a spirit from God ” , ” God suported him by Holy spirit ” ? ? ? of course those world criminals do not let know these facts ? === ( Pope converts to Islam – From the Peters Mosque in Rome ) – – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e2QB9y_Q6A
Yes , According to Islam this is not right . But this happening as a politics may be in the name of relagion ? but , what is happening to moslems around the world ? pushing some to act in that direction – check Google ” Gencide against moslems ” ?
– not to mention ” Iraq ” , Syria and mascaring egyptian Moslems ……For oil ? ? ?
– The world criminals do not care for any values ? EXAMPLE === ” the catholic pop” recognized Islam as the true faith of God for all prophets just like Jesus said – the POP is like a prophet himself – but world criminals “set him aside” ? misleading the whole world population just for their own intrest . This been going on since ” Jesus ” who mentioned in Quran as ” the word of god ” , ” a spirit from God ” , ” God suported him by Holy spirit ” ? ? ? of course those world criminals do not let you know these facts ? === ( Pope converts to Islam – From the Peters Mosque in Rome ) – – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e2QB9y_Q6A
Muslim is killing Muslim throughout the middle east to enforce an Islamic state ,it is not genocide being committed by any other country/religion except your own,yes politics are at play ,but those who are pushing for total control are the extremist groups,ie Isl,hezbola,etc and they do this in the name of ALLAH,they have called for JIhad against the world as we are infidels,Do you think that a Muslim who slits the throat of a Christian will go to paradise?Do you think there will be earthly pleasures given ?Do you think the trivial needs of man are apart of GOD’S kingdom?Personally i dont GOD is above and beyond that What is of man.
The Vatican is uniquely the fulfillment of Rev 17&18. If one correctly identifies the Rev “Great Whore Mother,” then from the clues in Rev 13 and 17, one can identify the final supreme “beast” by name. When this famous name person [now thought dead] amazes the world by reappearing, many are going to say “why didn’t I see who was coming” ? “Terrible head wound” is a crucial clue. His carrying the Great Whore is a crucial clue. For the world to be “amazed” to see him, he has to be someone the world knows about, so must be famous world-wide. “Was, and IS not yet Will Be” is a great clue.
Knowing history – crusader and jews are the Same ( defeated Roman Empire and slaved jews for over 5000 yrs ) i.e Anti-jesus and Anti-Rightiousness ” False Prophesy ” which Explain ” Gay Relagion ” ? – But jesus said ( a good sheep recognize the voice of its sheaperd ) -= Islam stand for -” ONE GOD “- and all the holy books and all prophets -= Moses , Jesus and mohammed as the last prophet .
– – https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/10360960_756667941073564_5723387669427384637_n.jpg?oh=9b4e3b5a8bdee320bca7453612060165&oe=5616FF61
ISIS has declared in a recent video that their forces plan on invading Jerusalem, the Vatican, and Spain.
These words come in front of the screen:
“Bombardments will never cease until the Cross is broken”
Anti Catholics who hate Rome probably will be praising ISIS for this.
Dear armorrcc
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You are not a man of honor, since you, desite promising never to do so, keep on returning to News That Matters. This time I had to pick up your comment from the span filter.
You have promised to leave, and not return. But my best guess, is that the articles on this site, are so excited that you simply have to read them.
When will your permitt Jesus of the Bible, to reign in your heart? When will we see the first sign of repentance and salvation?
the bible talks of the man of sin and I think the man is pope-period. All of should turn back to the Lord JESUS who is our Redeemer not pope or their is any other name under the sun that man can be saved. Thank;
Am bro. Sam
== this is Islam ==
—>Mark : 12 – 29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.[a] 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[b] 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[c] There is no commandment greater than these.”
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— >Mathew 5 -17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Nice photoshop of the guys bowing down before the antipope. I bet y’all don’t know that the last real pope spent his papacy in exile from Rome from 1958 to 1989. He took his name after Pope St. Gregory VII who ironically also died in exile from Rome! Again, Antipopes John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I, John Paul II, and Benedict XVI are antipopes, and so is Antipope Francis I. There is NO pope at this time. It’s not the pope we worship anyway. It’s the Most Holy Trinity alone we worship. We revere Mary, the angels, the saints, and the good popes, bishops, and pastors, but we only worship God.
Well this Pope thinks that his Catholic church plus Islam or Chrislam is compatible. I see nothing but a new Inquisition with both teams joining up to kill off the true Bible believers.
All who believe in Religion are wasting their precious time.All of them are evil. Christianity,Mustim,Judaism. If you want to be saved look for a true black Israelite to teach you the devine laws of the Torah.
All the three religions above worship evil spirits. Namely GOD,JESUS,.ALLAH. The present white men in the land of Israel has claimed to be Israelite when in actual sense they are pagans from eastern Europe.Before the black messiah Yahushua will be resurrected all the religions above must have disappeared and made useless in the world scene.By then the true black Israel will return to their land and with the help of yahushua rebut the holy temple which will usher in true worship on earth.
“Within the ordination rite the man being ordained lies prostrate during the Litany of Saints and the prayer that follows it. It symbolizes his unworthiness for the office to be assumed and his dependence upon God and the prayers of the entire Christian community to be successful in his new ministry.”
The priests are not worshiping the Pope….they are being ordained!
help help now great pope; from one who has great faith in jerusalem; roman
You have no idea what it means to speak from the chair of Peter. News flash it isn’t talking about a real chair but refers to the authority that Jesus gave to Peter.