Norway wants to go totalitarian, demanding all monetary transactions to be traced. Users of cash are already portrayed as criminals.
Norwegians are constantly out less cash in shops and at ATMs. Cash now accounts for only four percent of household spending, and five percent of the payment funds in the community.
Only Sweden and the United Kingdom have a lower proportion of cash. During the first half of the year are carried 743.8 million card purchases. This is an increase of 8.6 percent compared with last year, according to figures from the Nets and Financial Norway.
Director Idar Kreutzer Finance Norway believes it is good news.
– Firstly, it reduces the risk of robbery. This increases the safety of the public. Second, it prevents electronic payment financial crime. It is easier to track electronic payment than cash, Kreutzer says to NRK.
There is nothing in the government declaration of a cash-free Norway.
Liberal (V) Kathy Melby see no reason to accelerate the process and points out that cash is important to be able to live a life without a trace.
– It must be possible to pay for goods and services without having to register. Today is the very best opportunity safeguarded in that it is possible to use cash, says Melby.
My comment:
The majority of the Norwegians are lost. They are among the the most indoctrinated people on the Western hemisphere. They have no problem accepting the totalitarian demand for a cash free society, and willingly obey.
The financial institutions of Norway demands that the government shall make the use of cash a criminal act. If you do not want the authorities to be able to trace all your moves and purchases, you are in principle a suspicious person.
Revelation 13:17
so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.
The gross error of the Norwegians, are their total rejection of the Bible. The Post-Christian Norwegian society walks right into the ultimate trap of Satan. We are approaching the time when people can not buy and sell without using an electronic device, based on a numeric code. In the scriptures, this code is called the mark of the beast. Those who take this mark, will with hundred per cent surety end up in the eternal flames of Hell.
Revelation 20:4
I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshipped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
Not only the non-Christians are blindfolded. Even claimed ot be Christian bible teachers are sleeping, and do not warn others about the formation of the totalitarian economical system to be used by the antichrist, and his goons. There is no other way than to reject the government, obey God of the Bible, and to reintroduce the good old system of barter trade.
Written by Ivar
ivarfjeld.com 
I want to pay with money, because I want to keep my life private. Is it a crime to keep one’s life private?
Dear tvillingsyster
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
Cash has been a mode of payment for more than 2.500 years. During the last 10 years, the totalitarian forces has started thier bid to abolish cash. The propblem is that most people has started to reflct on essetial issues. Like: Why shall we obey the governments desire tp control and trace every move and minutes of our life?
ivar, shalom brother. you tell the truth. it amazes me that all of the people with brains are in a trance and cannot see the trap being laid for them though people such as you and me are shouting out the truth! keep up the great work in love in Christ Jesus.
Dear john daugherty
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
Thanks for blessing me. This kind of comments will keep me blogging.
The mark of the beast isn’t a credit/debit card etc, and it won’t be simply a means of paying for your next McDonalds happy meal.
It’s something taken onto, or into the body, which declares a person’s allegiance to the Antichrist.
Barter gave way to cash. That was just as much a step in the same direction as Cash giving way to card. So don’t go cutting up your American Express!
Obedience to Gods will is what this mark is. As Christ said, study Daniel. Well Daniel has 2 tests, both dealing with obedience. The first killing was Cain failing to obey. In the end, our seal is the seal of obedience. Seriously Phil, anyone can overpower anyone and force a tattoo or an injection. He, our Creator is more concerned about our decision to follow Him as opposed to what some government can muscle us into doing.
Study this Sir-giving way to cash brings us all the more closer to the control in Revelation 13. Everyone being a credit/cash card is exactly what the beast wants. Easier to control you then.
Dear Tony.
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
Tony, why did you jump my questions?
Are people who do not keep the Sababth on Saturday, going to Hell?
Do the departed souls “sleep”, and await the final day of jugdment?
tony
Your SDA tradition regarding the mark of the beast is so obviously wrong, you would have to read your KJV with your eyes closed to believe it.
When confronted about Sabbath keeping, what was Jesus reply? “I keep every day as the Sabbath.” Is that the answer you would expect from the one who is warning us that Sunday Sabbath keeping is the mark of the beast?
The mark is clearly described as being in or on the hand or the head. The way SDA twist the literal meaning of those words to come up with Sunday Sabbath is linguistic gymnastics of Olympic gold medal standards 🙂
the mark of the beast, my friends, is (waaait for it), a mark. the bible is not too hard to understand. the mark is a mark that is REQUIRED. we will know what it is EXACTLY when we see some form of mark that is 1. required by the government 2. is required in order to buy and sell and 3. has a number. also, 4. anyone who takes it will be doomed to go to hell. simple. do not take this mark. God will not let anyone be tricked into taking this mark. we will know EXACTLY what is at stake when we are given the choice to take it. amen.
IVAR,
I will never duck a question! Are you not posting my answers?
Let scripture answer all the questions Sir! See 1 John 2:3-4 as your answer to the Sabbath. Surely those who know Him will be in the Kingdom, do you agree?
2nd, as i previously posted, Jesus considers the dead as sleeping, therefore i do the same. ‘if is appointed unto man to die once and then the resurrection’-ever hear of this one?
Dear Tony
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
Lets take on subject at the time:
You wrote:
2nd, as i previously posted, Jesus considers the dead as sleeping, therefore i do the same.
My comment:
If the dead as sleeping: How could Moses and Elijah appear with Jesus?
After they appeard, did they go back to sleep, and is so: For what purpose?
Most excellent question! That i do appreciate. Moses was risen, while Elijah was translated, to represent a couple things: first how do we get to Heaven, either we die (Moses) or we are taken (Elijah). They represent the 2 Witnesses in Rev 12: Moses the law and Elijah the prophets. Remember, the end time church has both; the law and prophets-find this in also in Revelation. These two are surely exceptions to the rule. The rule being: it is appointed unto men to die, then the judgement (Heb 9:27). The purpose is obviously to give us the information of the last days, and what our Creator wants. Did they go back to sleep? No, i believe they will lead the way with the multitude of angels that come to take us at the very end of this all (1 Thess 4:17).
Dear Tony
Shalom,and love in Jesus.
You wrote:
Did they go back to sleep? No, i believe they will lead the way with the multitude of angels that come to take us at the very end of this all (1 Thess 4:17).
My comment:
You do not have to defend the not Biblical doctrine of soul sleep of the SDA. Remember that there is a lot of people who have been raised from the death. I can give you a handful of examples, not only the two men who appeaed with Jessu during the transfiguration.
Among those who has crossed over from death to life, are you. Eternal life has already begun, for all who belive. You are no longer accounted among the dead that bury their own dead. Paul also said, if he could chose, he would depart to be with the Lord. He never expessed a desire to sleep for more than 2.000 years.
Phil, while i see you as increasingly ignorant of scripture, lets hope this site does post my scriptural answers. Please Sir, show me where the quote is ‘every day is Sabbath’. Second, which other Commandments do you wish to discard? See John 14:15 to further prove your ignorance of simple truth.
And please, for your pride, continue to point to my SDA ‘doctrine’ as you say to point out your obvious shortcomings.
Mr Ivar, please ensure these posts get to the site. Im sure many will benefit from easy to understand, scriptural answers!
=)
IVAR,
In the article ‘pope calls for unity’ is where your initial question about soul sleeping was posted. On this page you question my lack of answering. I suggest Sir, you check the place where you asked the question, for I have answered with scripture and left no doubt. Instead of questioning me on a page that the original question did not originate, lets keep the subject of each page limited to that page. This rule does wonders for your journalistic abilities (or inabilities).
thank you, tony. yes lets keep the posts here on the subject of the mark. but i would like to say, the mark has nothing to do with what day you choose to go to church. revelations doesen’t say a word about the mark being anything other than a MARK. shalom.
Dear John Daugherty
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
The mark is a number. Interesing. We can soon not buy and sell, using cash. We need to use an electronic number. I am not saying that the present technology is the mark of the beast, but: It prepares the sleeping, to take it without asking questions. When it is launched, it is so convenient to take it, that most of the people will not bother. They are already in love with the World, and feel they can not continue in all their pleasures without it.
Electronic number? Do you really not realize that this would make all so much easier to implement the ‘buy/sell’ rules mentioned in Rev 13? Come now, lets think much deeper on this. Electronic numbers give total control to our government.
Dear Tony.
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
To return to Barter trade will make people survive. People who produce something, and do not work for the antichristian government, can exchange goods without using cash.
We have to create an alternative ecconmy, and use different kinds of payment mode. Like gold. It has always worked wonders.
Ivar, shalom in the name of our Lord, Jesus Christ. you are exsctly correct in pointing out that all of these numbers are preparing the way for the final mark. i would also mention that i saw a video of a woman who had electronic bio-tattoo which could activate a persons electronic devices as well ad carry all of their medical information. i am positive that the mark of beast technology has already been invented the beast is waiting for an opportune time to release it. thank you for the wonderful work you do for the Lord. shalom.
Sir, thanks for the thought. Christ reminds us in more than a few places to ‘study Daniel’. With that, we see that this mark is clearly obedience. 1 John 2:3 is clear that those who know Him, keep His Commandments. Well John, while many like to downplay the Sabbath, none of the other seem to be an issue. In the 3 angels message right before Christ comes to get us we notice that the first angel repeats the 4th Commandment (Rev 14). Is it coincidence that most forget the one that starts ‘Remember’? Is it a coincidence that most Christians are blind when all the prophets echo how we are to keep the Sabbath forever? Read Is 66:23, Sabbath will be in Heaven. While it sounds minor, remember, Cain too was guilty of false worship. While the 3 Hebrews in Dan 1-2, honored them. Daniel in ch 6 honored them also. The decision is totally yours Sir. But please, lets keep it totally scriptural. Revelation does say in ch 12, 14 that we need to keep them, can you not see this? How about the final blessing of the last book, who does this go to? See Rev 22, the tree of life are for those who KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS!
Gentlemen, if obedience is an obstacle, if Sabbath is that difficult to see, and or keep….i can only wish you the best (john 14:15).
Dear Tony.
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
What do you do on the Sabbath?
Tony,
Tony,
You said: “Christ reminds us in more than a few places to ‘study Daniel’. With that, we see that this mark is clearly obedience.”
Give us the passages of scripture in the book of Daniel to which you refer. Show us where the mark of the beast is mentioned, and tell us how you interpret it as having to do with obedience.
Mr Ivar, i am still new at the Sabbath understanding but i am learning all the time. I attend church, as Christ (Luke 4:16) and all the early Biblical Christians did. I always take time to spend with my family and enjoy time in nature. There are people who have to work, which is doing good in some circumstances. Sabbath has a very bad historical rap because of the legality that the Pharisees always attached and the hundreds of laws. I think Christ made it very evident that it is NOT every a burden (nor any of His Ten) but it is time to spend with the One that you love more than anything. A time of reflection, gratitude. Realization that ‘the road is narrow’ indeed and many just don’t have the understanding that i have been blessed with.
thanks Sir,
Dear Tony
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You wrote:
Sabbath has a very bad historical rap because of the legality that the Pharisees always attached and the hundreds of laws. I think Christ made it very evident that it is NOT every a burden (nor any of His Ten) but it is time to spend with the One that you love more than anything.
My comment:
If we put obedience to the law as a requirement to be saved, we complicate the message of Jesus. Man is saved by faith, alone, by grace, alone, and by the blood of Jesus alone. We do good works because we are saved, not to get saved. The law is good. It convinces us that we are sinners, that needs to be saved. The Sabbath is a gift to mankind, since we all needs to rest.
Ivar,
You said: “If we put obedience to the law as a requirement to be saved, we complicate the message of Jesus. Man is saved by faith, alone, by grace, alone, and by the blood of Jesus alone. We do good works because we are saved, not to get saved. The law is good. It convinces us that we are sinners, that needs to be saved. The Sabbath is a gift to mankind, since we all needs to rest.”
That statement is entirely correct. How then do you believe we can lose our salvation if it was never the result of keeping the law in the first place?
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You asked:
How then do you believe we can lose our salvation if it was never the result of keeping the law in the first place?
My reply:
It amazes me that you do not see this. What will happen to me, if I tomorrow say: Jesus do not exist, there are many Gods who can save us, and I convert to Buddhism?
You won’t!
Which means his statement that he loses none whom God has given him is true. 🙂
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom,and love in Jesus.
You wrote:
You won’t!
My repy:
You are not God, and you do not know. Let us rather lsten to His words.
Matthew 13:20-21
The seed falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away.
Ivar,
You said: “You are not God, and you do not know. Let us rather listen to His words.”
I do listen to his words. And he says “”he loses none!”” So you have to judge the meaning of all other scriptures by that emphatic statement. Because to interpret anything in a way that contradicts that statement, is to make Christ out to be a liar.
Phil Mayo
Are you really so dull, that you do not understand this? Or du you just want to quarel? We have a free will, and we can walk away.
Hmm. You obviously just don’t understand Christ’s power to save. We will leave this for now!
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom and love is Jesus.
I know Jesus, and I know His power to save. I have also seen people renouncing their faith in Him, and walked away. Many of them victims of false teachers, who decived them.
One example, to which I am a first hand witness: A former worship leader and Bible college gratudate. Today, he is an atheist. He left sound doctrines, walked away into the Charistmatic camp. When his wife got cancer (worries of the world) his faith crashed, and he walked away.
Correct, neither i nor the SDA that i attend (and know) will ever say otherwise. Yet you tell me i am defending their doctrine? No, i am defending truth from the Bible. I too read where many have risen from the dead. Yet i also read where many are ‘sleeping’ as Christ explains them. Lets not try to add by telling me i am among the alive when death has no yet taken this body. Grabbing at doctrine outside the Bible is not safe. And with the 2000 yr sleep remark, do you not know that time is only relevenet to us, now? A sleep is but a wink of an eye.
If you really understood the SDA doctrine, instead of what you see on the internet or hear from word of others, you would realize that it is truth that we speak. Again, in all churches of the world, there are misled and nonlearned (just look at Phil) =).
Dear Tony.
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
Just answer two questions:
1. Will those who do not keep the Sabbath on Saturdays, be sent to Hell?
2. From where did Moses and Elijah come from during the transfiguration, and what happened to them afterwards?
Please make the reply as short as possible.
Sir, in reference to the electronic card or pay deal, yes, a system with gold or other means to pay for good and/or services would surely be a great idea, i know government would never approve of however. But the idea of anything electric i just run from. If we keep Revelation in its entirety in perspective (along with Daniel) the foreknowledge He is providing is simple amazing. And remember – the final church in the last days does have the spirit of prophecy!
amen Tony. you have many good things to say but i want to tell you that i myself have looked at sda as an option for me but ultimately rejected it. i am a man of 52 years and spent 27 years of my life believing the false prosperity gospel. any group who take just a few verses and build a whole theology on it is a cult. one must weigh scripture with scripture like Jesus did when tempted by satan. satan said,”It is written” and Jesus said, “Yes, but it is ALSO WRITTEN”. So please compare .
Alway do Sir. Comparing is a must! I know that there are often more than just 2 sides to most, if not every, subject. While every church has ‘bad fruit’ and/or ‘good fruit’, this one here has been the most thorough Bible church i have ever known. I definitely do not abide by the ‘prosperity gospel’ either. It was alluring early on, that is true. I really see that the church i attend is a church with Jesus and all He has done and allowing now constantly eluded to. While the 3 angels message of Rev 14 is a cornerstone of what we plan to preach to the world. We do believe that, while His return is ‘thankfully’ inevitable, one should remain in a relationship with Him, ready, at all times. But we too see that signs are all around us.
Thank you too for the gracious reply Sir. I do really believe that the SDA, from all i have seen in my short time, can defend itself on any public forum with the Bible alone. And yet, while none are perfect, i know i am with the group He has placed me, thorough Bible students. The depth of the insight is wonderful to be a part of.
The Bible in its entirety is what i see and appreciate.
Gods best Sir!
Dear Tony.
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You wrote:
Thank you too for the gracious reply Sir. I do really believe that the SDA, from all i have seen in my short time, can defend itself on any public forum with the Bible alone.
My comemnt:
Since you have been a SDA for a short time, it is my duty to make yu aware of the difference between Evangelical Christianity and the SDA.
The first difference, is that Christians do not add sabbath observance to the fisihed work of Jesus on the cross. Nor Saturday observance, nor any other day of the week. Man is not saved by observing the Sabbath, nor will he face condemnation for not doing so. There are so many Sabbath rules and regulations, and non of them can add anything to grace, and the redemption we have in the blood of Jesus. Still we should celebrate the Sabbath and keep a day off, for our own good. And it can never be wrong to observe the Jewish Sabbath.
Second: SDA doctrine teach that Heaven is not populated. That all the departed souls are sleeping. Christians acnowledge that the souls depart for Heaven. The SDA and RCC, strangely enough, awaits salvation at the last day of judgment, and do not accnowledge that Jesus has already saved us. That is a way of denying the power of the ressurection, and that eternal life has already begun.
amen.
Sabbath observance. Sleeping dead etc. It’s all garbage! A pointless argument about worthless issues.
If you believe Christ only died to clear your record, so you can now earn your place in heaven by keeping the law, you are believing in another Christ, another gospel. Not the one that will save you. And you will end up in Hell, because no one is without sin. And sin cannot enter heaven!
Thanks Mr Ivar, a couple things i’d like to point out. First, if non observance of Sabbath may as well be non observance of ANY of the Commands, they are not good ideas, nor suggestions. As for the rules and regulations, didn’t Christ make it obvious that doing good is always well on Sabbath? Again, you are mixing this with the annual and the trash that the pharissee’s added. Also, you fail to recognize the 2 facts i previously pointed out: 1 being there is no diff between Jew and non Jew, 2nd that is is NOT Jewish! Either way, point made…again. Keeping ‘A’ day off instead of HIS Day, that HE made Holy is well, that is between you and HIM (but as for me and my house Joshua 24:15).
2nd, while you quote SDA doctrine, you are also only partially informed. Heaven is inhabited, as i previously pointed out, see 1 Thess 4:16-17. Also, What point is a resurrection if we are already in Heaven? Scripture says that some rise to everlasting life and some to damnations. How is this so if they are already in Heaven? You tried to differentiate Christians from SDA? Sorry Sir, many other denominations understand that we do NOT go immediately to Heaven. This is how RCC gets the silly notion of praying to the dead! And i really suggest you see Catholic Encyclopedia vol 4, page 153 if you intend to make Sabbath any day, as the RCC tried also. If any day is acceptable, why then, why not sun worship day?
Further, i do not ever deny anything that is Truth, i simply uncomplicate the complicated. Of course we both know that Phil is the exception: that poor man runs circles of stupidity =)
Any question for me is fair game. Sadly, most simply do NOT understand true SDA doctrine.
Phil, you poor soul: you have 2 issues, 1) Love – see John 14:15.
2) a reading disability – see (on the dead) John 11:4, 1 Cor 15:12 & 18, 1 Thess 4:13-18, 2 Sam 11:9….just to name a few.
Maybe it is just pride that keeps you blind?
wish you healing sir!
Mr Ivar, there was no reply button. Is someone going to hell if they do not keep Sabbath? I do not have that answer, only God does. I simply follow the Commandments of God, not a day from the pope.
2nd, Moses was (obviously) resurrected and Elijah came from Heaven. This however is not a blanket statement for everyone. Is this difficult to get?
Afterwards i am sure that both went to heaven. Again, why would there be a resurrection if we were there already? Makes no sense Sir.
Dear Tony.
Shalom, and loves in Jesus.
You do not hold on to the classical doctrines of the SDA.
I celebrate Sabbath on Friday, and I believe in the power of the ressurection. Now, today. I belive that I will depart for heaven, in the moment Jesus calls my soul home. Just like Paul, If I could chose, I desire to depart and be with the Lord.
Ps. I do not have to celebrate the Sabbath on Fridays. Since I have found the eternal sabbath rest in Jesus the Messiah. But I need to take a day off every week, and keep it holy.
Interesting that you say that, i actually have a doctrinal belief book from there and they are just what i stated. Therefore, for all who read, do not make decisions on what is NOT researched and/or really understood! And yes Sir, Jesus is in total control of when we go, regardless of the method or time.
PS-God purposely set aside a specific day for Christians. This is between you and Him. To change it, well that simply echos exactly what catholicism does and wants us the think-that it is our option, not His. Maybe pray Sir, i did and He opened His Holy Day for me. And this ‘Jesus is rest’ stuff is simply a cop out to do as we please. Regardless: i hold no keys to Heaven and therefore only suggest we follow His to specifications (see Cain). There is something about His Sabbath that is unlike anything we can choose to attempt to create that is above and beyond!
i do wish you well Sir!
True partially, Sabbath starts at sundown Fri until sundown Sat!
Another: you did mention the power of the resurrection: well, repeatedly in scripture it is celebrated by full submersion baptism. This too was altered by RCC. If we are thankful for His resurrection, we follow his simple directions (John 14:15). Also worth noting: with all the resurrections in the Bible, not one person is recorded in mentioning Heaven. Why, because the did not yet ascend is the obvious answer!