Coptic Pope: “Todays Jews are not God’s chosen people”

“Modern-day Jews are not God’s chosen people, said Pope Shenouda III, the head of Egypt’s Coptic Orthodox Church”.

Look at this gift from Mahmoud Abbas to the coptic Pope. An icon of the “Holy Madonna” and her son. Cairo: September 13th, 2011.

This is a statement given on Sept. 28th, 2011.

“Do not believe their claims that they are God’s chosen people, because it is not true,” Shenouda said during his weekly sermon on Wednesday evening at the papal residence in Abbasseya.

When there were no believers on earth the Jews were really God’s chosen people, but God’s chosen people are now all those who believe in the existence of God and carry out all God’s teachings, he added.

Shenouda said he had spoken earlier with former US President Jimmy Carter, and explained to him that Jews were called God’s chosen people because they were the only worshipers on earth, while the rest of its inhabitants were pagans.

Once billions believed in the existence of God, the Jews no longer were God’s chosen people, he said, and now all those who believe in God and have true faith are God’s chosen people.

Source:
Oriental Orthodox

My comment:

The large majority of Evangelical Christian leaders accept Copts as Christians. But few evangelicals have much knowledge about Coptic Orthodoxy.

This religious movement also have a “pope”, and Jew-hate and Replacement theology is deeply rooted in the Egyptian Coptic minority.

The best exposure of the Palestinian-Coptic nexus, is Abu Mazen’s gift to the Coptic Pope. It is not a “holy Koran”, and obviously not a Bible. But an icon of the “holy madoona and her son”.  They are the royals, acceptable for the entire “Palestine movement”.

Not so strange. The Vatican was one of the first non Muslim nations to recognize the PLO formed in 1964.  The official Vatican Recognition came in 1974, 20 years before the Vatican recognized the state of Israel:

Pope Paul IV had the following statement ready for the 25th anniversary of the “Pontifical Mission for Palestine” in June 1974.  Written on the website of the Papal Mission to the Middle East.

  “One of the clearest signs of the Holy See’s concern for the welfare of the Palestinians, who are particularly dear to us because they are the people of the Holy Land, because they include followers of Christ and because they have been and still are being so tragically tried.”

Source: News That Matters

When the pope visited Jerusalem in 1964, the Vatican never complained about “illegal and immoral”Jordanian and Muslim unilateral actions there .

In 1973, Pope Shenouda III became the first Coptic Orthodox Pope of Alexandria to meet the Pope of Rome in over 1500 years.

The PLO was the Pope’s best bid to make both the Zionists and the Kingdom of Jordan to accept the Popes plan to make Jerusalem an International Zone.

This plan had to be kept on ice as the consequence of the Jordanian occupation of East Jerusalem in 1948.

The same year the Zionists got their own state with West Jerusalem as capital.

When this “zone” finally comes into existence, it must obviously be governed by someone.

The ruler of this Zone will be the last and final antichrist. This ruler will not return to Earth in the clouds of Heaven, but rather receive a red carpet welcome at Ben Gurion airport in Tel Aviv.

 Isaiah 8:14
He will be a holy place; for both Israel and Judah he will be a stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall. And for the people of Jerusalem he will be a trap and a snare.

In 1967, both the PLO and the Pope faced another serious setback, when the Zionists liberated the city of Jerusalem from Jordanian occupation.

The PLO, the Copts and the Pope are in agreement in regards to “the liberation of Palestine”. They face a second enemy in the Muslim brotherhood and their offspring Hamas, that needs to be brought on board in a great compromise.

Iran can not accept a “Palestine” that will be ruled by the followers of the son and the Madonna. The Iranian regime want Israel to become a pure Islamic state ruled by Iranian inspired sharia laws. Just like the coming republic of Egypt.

Only if they can agree to make peace with each other, and make Zionist Israel their common enemy, they can become “successful”.

Very few wants to listen to Jesus the Messiah, and obey the gospel.

 1 Peter 2:6
For in Scripture it says: “See, I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious cornerstone, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame.”

Behold: A grand compromise will come. One of the followers of the son of the “Queen of Heaven” will be the common denominator.

When this rule is about to collapse, and the Jews face the final betrayal and the ultimate Holocaust, the true Messiah will return to Zion.

There are horrible times ahead for the Jewish people, and all who live on the Earth. The rejection of the Messiah is almost total in this generation.

But the days of great tribulation will be shortened by the Messiah, for the sake of His elect. The elect is still around on Earth in small pockets, badly persecuted and hated by the entire World.

First Published: January 10th, 2012

Written by Ivar

The Pope is dead: Long live the Pope

The dead Coptic pope is crowned, and kept for public display on a throne.  

The dead Egyptian Pope is kept for public display.

The body of Pope Shenouda III, the head of Egypt’s 12 million Coptic Orthodox is displayed for public viewing inside the Abbasiya Cathedral in Cairo March 18, 2012.

The Copts and their dead Pope in Egypt.

What to say?

Why put a crown on a dead person, dress him up in kings cloths, and display him “sitting” on a throne?

This is grotesque. This is worship of a dead created being.  The Bible says: Do not worship or consult the dead:

Isaiah 19:3
The Egyptians will lose heart, and I will bring their plans to nothing; they will consult the idols and the spirits of the dead, the mediums and the spiritists.

Jesus said: 

 Matthew 22:31-32

But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you,  ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’ ? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.”

There are surely some saved Coptic Christians.

But it is not possible to include the Coptic Church as a  Christian Church. This religious movement is some kind of antisemitic Orthodox Catholic, separated, but on their way “home to Rome”.

Written by Ivar

Coptic Christians begin to flee Egypt

A growing number of Egypt’s 8-10 million Coptic Christians are looking for a way to get out.

Coptic Christians to not believe in the "democratic revolution" in Egypt.

The reason is that Ilamists increasingly take advantage of the nationalist revolution that toppled long-standing dictator Hosni Mubarak in February.

Egypt Daily News reported on Tuesday that “lawyers who specialize in working with Coptic Egyptians…say that in the past few weeks they have received hundreds of calls from Copts wanting to leave Egypt.”

“They are insisting on leaving Egypt because the risks of staying here are too great,” Naguib Gabriel, a Coptic human rights lawyer, told Egypt Daily News. “Many Christians are afraid of the future because of the fanatics in the mosques.”

At least 20 Christians have been killed in sectarian violence with Muslims since Mubarak’s ouster. And groups like the Muslim Brotherhood have been taking a n increasingly visible role in forming Egypt’s next government.

Coptic leaders have complained that they are being left out of the decision-making process, raising fears that the Egypt of tomorrow will be far less free and democratic than even the Egypt of Mubarak.

Source: Israel Today

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