In a narrow verdict, the US supreme Court destroyed and replaced the Biblical marriage.
The US Supreme Court has ruled that same-sex marriage is a legal right across the United States. It means the 14 states with bans on same-sex marriage will no longer be able to enforce them.
Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote that the plaintiffs asked “for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right.”
The ruling brings to an end more than a decade of bitter legal battles.
Same-sex couples in several affected states including Georgia, Michigan, Ohio and Texas rushed to wed on Friday.
Source: The BBC
My comment:
Jesus the Messiah has warned us, that the large majority of people will face judgement. They will be sent to Hell. One of their gross errors, is their walk away from Him, and back to the days of Sodom. A city that was burned with hellfire by the only living God of Israel.
Luke 17: 26-30.
“Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.
“It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.
“It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed.
All Christians must rejoice, when we see the World falling deep in the pandemic of Sodomy. The words of our Lord is being fulfilled. We must praise Him.
Like Gomorra and Sodom, the whole World is destined for total destruction. The calling for all followers of Jesus is to survive in this environment of filth and perversions. To continue to serve the Lord with gladness in our heart, as we eagerly awaits the return of our savior, God and Master.
For the USA, this verdict is a disaster that will have apocalyptic consequences. A nation that was founded on Judeo Christian values, eventually wants to revoke all their blessings, and follow Satan. This nation will also share his eternal destiny. The Americans will ripe what they have sown.
May Jesus the Messiah have mercy on all deceived souls. And may He keep His elect safe on Earth through the comming Great Tribulation, so they can continue to share the gospel. Amen.
First published 27th of June 2015.
Written by Ivar
ivarfjeld.com 
Why should Christians rejoice when we see sodomy and perversion take over?! Especially when we see sinners getting even deeper into sin?! Yes, the scriptures are being fulfilled as we speak, and we give praise and thanks to our Lord for his grace and gift of salvation to us all. But telling us to be happy when the ones we know and love in this life turn and reject the chance to avoid the fires of hell is a little insensitive to me. All the more we should be intensifying our efforts to reach and speak out to these people, many of whom may be lukewarm to the truth, in the hope that they might be convicted and turn to Christ – only then can I truly rejoice when a sinner gets saved!
Dear Jason
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
Why should we rejoice when we see Sodomy and perversion take over?
Simply because this proves the Word of God to be valid and correct. And also that the second comming of Jesus is very, very close. More than enough reason to jump with joy.
Ivar, this makes no sense whatsoever, “All Christians must rejoice, when we see the World falling deep in the pandemic of Sodomy.” It’s like rejoicing when the signs of Armageddon are increasingly unfolding as evidence God Lives. It is the 3 unclean spirits, devils and false prophet (false beliefs about God in Judaism, Christianity and Islam) leading the world to it as it is CLEARLY EXPRESSED in Revelation 16. It is not God bringing us there!
It is so odd! The Church is the Bride of Christ it is taught. The Church is made up of males and females, so the Church tacitly acknowledges there are “male brides” in heaven, but cannot acknowledge them on earth.
This is a different perspective on the saying, “heavenly minded, but no earthly good!”
Dear Ray032
Shalom, and love in Jesus
You wrote:
it is CLEARLY EXPRESSED in Revelation 16. It is not God bringing us there!
My reply:
Revelation 16:17
God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath.
(end of scripture).
The book of Revelation is basically a book that display the action of God. He is in charge, and He is in control. Like the prophet Joel has told us: God will bring all the nations into Israel, and judge them.
Romans 1:24:25
Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
(end of scriptures).
God hands men over to the powers of Satan, and let them indulge in and support sodomy. Because they want to live in rebellion and sin. Truly a hellbound global movement.
We are told to have the minde of Christ. Christ had the mind and focus of GOD, the FATHER of ALL. As we were rebirth to Heavenly thinking……revelation becomes more and more appent to what GOD is doing. Yes, the world spins it’s own web and we are told to flee from it and not love its way. The flesh and the flesh minde can not help what it is doing but the spiritual rebirth can get it! We rejoice in that every word that comes out of the mouth of GOD is TRUE. HE is revealing HIS own glorious thoughts, wisdom and ways. The more we see HIS truth the more we see that HE is every bit Truthful in our need of a Savior and HIS own hands working in our lives to bring us back to HIM.
If you remember, Christ said their is no male or female, nor maggiage in heaven and that was in response to flesh questions. BUT, it is our duty to take the flesh and bring it under control of the spirit.
Sexual sin is just that – sex outside of marriage. A believer knows this and will keep the faith. Those not in faith or love of the FATHER can’t get it! They will only see the flesh side and that is just a ceremony and flesh. Many rituals outside of GOD;s will were preformed as such. They are dead in the spiritual sence and of the flesh mind. They are fallen.
It is not about rituals it is all about the heart. If a man or women do not have the urge for sexual relations with the opposit sex, they are to give their lives for the service of GOD and others. There has never been any use of sex by GOD outside of HIS created wise plans. None. To do any sex outside of HIS Holy plans is a twist of the fallen ones and they will follow under the deception unless we speak the truth.
May all those who are puppets and decieved learn the truth and give themselves to the FATHER for His Holy purposes and give back to Cesear what he is manipulating them with. Greed, hatred, injustices of the world and jealousy can and will be used to twist truth. Let them go and see what GOD says and truth and freedom will come to all. Don’t seek the truth and take all that this worlds dominions promise and give out and slavery and death is at the door. Our bodies were not originally meant to abuse them in these ways.
In fact it is ironic that muslims and jews know God’s words but are allowed to give the endulgence to the world without their own speech of truth and right living. They, in this country, know the truth and keep silent. Amazing. The Christian, like Peter are to speak the truth in love and walk in the right truth no matter what. We are not to change our words or bend for any non believer. Salt can loose it’s saltiness. Unless we all take our thoughts captive in our spiritual ways in Christ, we too will fall. It is time to fight in the spiritual sence, not swords and knives or guns but with our thoughts and throw out everything that keeps us from following GOD;s words. It is our duty to speak truth to everyone! Everyone was created in God’s image. Who ever said that whatever you prefer in sex is a go in ceremonial marriage is a liar and thief.
A person labled as gay, need not marry nor have sex. It was to glorify GOD;s Creative ways of procreation and symbolize HIM. The devil perverted it in so many ways. It’s time for even the CHRISTIAN to confess sins of lust outside of Marriage of their wife. It is time for muslims to stop melting flesh of women or covering them up or mutilating them to hide thier own sin of lust! The devil sure knows how to decieve and twist GOD’s words. Where does it say kill other or destroy them because you yourself are sinning in thought! No where! You live with the evil still inside!
Same for everyone and anyone. You think that governments will hide sin and shame by taking and making laws to appease the lusts. When we all meet our CREATOR GOD, you will not say, it was the governements fault. You have no escuse. You can’t even blame the religions of this world. The WORD of GOD has been given to the whole world just like GOD wanted at Penticost! Remember the TOwer of Babel. Man wanted to go up to Heaven in all of it’s pride and not fill the earth. GOD changed it and forced man to unit in groups and spread out over the earth and glorify HIMself!
Penticost………Same thing ….same act of GOD. THIS time spread the peace HE gives through reconciliation of a Heavenly sacrifice that no one can ever do but GOD HIMSELF. The Holy Angels know and see this.
As moses took the pole and put the snake on it, the people were saved for those who looked in faith and knew GOD as TRUTH. No bite of the snake could kill them.
We now have the pole with the ONE and ONLY Son, created in flesh to take on the bites of all evil!!!!! Look upon the cross, the pole of HIS CREATION! The one who everything was created in and through Him and be saved. Look and believe! Look and turn from all that GOD said is wrong in HIS original laws. They will be written in the heart in this covenant. No man can change the heart but GOD! The minde can fight off the man made imput! Fight the mind of lies and win the battle . Make your flesh bow down to the FATHER through CHRIST and you will see the good and sweet ways of our LORD GOD!
Give unto Cesear that is his and we who are GOD;s will continue to give to GOD as HE calls us to do. It is wisdom,. It is life in the spirit of which we were created as well.
All those who go after Cesear will just be slaves to the man made god of this world. He holds the medical world. He holds the rich and the poor. He holds technology. He holds agriculture. He holds all the mind control and manipulations of the flesh. Slavery is an aweful place. This is why Yashua came …to free us from all the lies and false hopes and spirit led slaveries. The flesh can be controled in Christ Yashua! Hallelujuh!!!! GOD will be glorified to all! He is making HIS name known to all. No need to destroy humanity to fight the lies. GOD is making a way all the time. WALK IN THE WAYS OF YAHWEH AND KNOW TRUTH! Examin your god and see truth.
Ivar , I too cannot rejoice for anyone going to hell..we all knew how it would all be in the last days ..G-d tells us to pray for all of them and for our leaders. there are many who had the chance to talk to someone in great sin who did not know Yeshua..there blood is on the watchmans hands..I have seen some of the worst get saved about the luke warn who thot they could be won easier. million leaving the cults all over the world. the law is written in our hearts and all people know sin is sin, many rebell..I just plan to stay in the word , pray without cheasing and I finally see some preachers now shouting it out , as the time is near and it will be too late. some won’t because they don’t want to be hated as Yeshus said them hated HIM too.. I have lost family and friends because I speak the truth. , so be it. I never want to stand before G-d and say why I did not..HE gave HIS all..and what a joy when we win another to HIM. G-d said even one soul is worth the whole world.. when we are hated we can call it all joy in that respect.. I had two half brothers that refused and then when they did ,,I cried alot but had tried. it hurts. love to you. G-d bless you Ivar, Even on the cross, HE was not happy to know the one did not believe but accepted the other who did,
Dear Mama Bear
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You wrote:
Ivar , I too cannot rejoice for anyone going to hell.
My comment:
I do not rejoice over anyone being sent to Hell. Obviously, I can never know who will get such a final sentence. I do not even want my worst enemy to spend eternity in Hell.
But I do rejoice when I see that the Word of God is valid and true. Like when I see the pandemic spread of sodomy and perversion.
All who are “hellbound” must repent. That is always our message. Repent, or perish. Unfortunately few will be willing.
Ivar you used Luke 17:26-30 for your argument of which I totally agree, but you forgot to mention Noah’s typology who prepared an ark for the saving of his family. Hebrews 11:7 says, “By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and ecame heir of the righteousness WHICH IS BY FAITH.” The typology of this is that God will remove the Bible believing remnant who are born again whether Jew or Gentile from this judgment that is coming called Jacob’s trouble, just like He did with Noah and the flood of which the 8 were rescued. Now I know that you don’t believe that Christ’s death, burial and resurrection was not enough for you and that you need to go through the judgment and wrath of God. The Bible says, “For the great day of His wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?” Revelation 6:17 “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and He that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the WRATH of God abideth on him.” John 3:36 “For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned from idols to serve the living and true God; and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.” 1 Thess. 1:10 We believer’s have the righteousness of Jesus not our own, and now God looks down on us and see’s Jesus in us, why would God judge Jesus again when He already judged sin for us on the cross? “Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them; because greater is He that is in you, than he that is in the world.” 1 John 4:4 Remember the Jewish people are gathered in Israel in unbelief, why? “For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved; as it is written. There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob. For this is My covenant unto them, when I shall take a way their sins.” Romans 11:25-27 There is only one way to be saved and it’s FAITH in the blood of Jesus, JEW OR GENTILE. Blessings
Dear Nanette
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You wrote:
Now I know that you don’t believe that Christ’s death, burial and resurrection was not enough for you and that you need to go through the judgment and wrath of God.
My reply:
I know you are a precher of the pr-trib rapture. And you know that I do not teach pre-trib, but consider it a Jesuit inspired heresy. Yes, I do belive that a beliver will escape God’s wrath. We are not destined for Hell. I also belive that Jesus the Messiah will keep me safe on Earth, through the Great Tribulation. At least till the appointed day, which Jesus has chosen, within the Great Tribulation, for our flight to Jerusalem. Also called the rapture.
Jesus has shorten those days for the sake of the elect. If not, non could survive.
If I have been chosen to be one of His martyrs, I might be home in Heaven before you. I might also be home in heaven before you, if I die a natural death, before the Lord returns.
It is not a Jesuit heresy Ivar, prove it. Show me where the Jesuits preach the rapture Which is Harpazo in Greek. Why did God spare Noah and not destroy his family with the wicked? Why did God spare Lot and not destroy him with the wicked? God will destroy the earth with fire (2 Peter 12&13) which we look for a new heavens and a new earth.! The preachers/redeemed during the tribulation are the 144,000 Jews (Revelation 14). The church is not mentioned again after Revelation 3:22 until the end of the tribulation where they are in heaven Revelation 22:17. Anyone can be a member of the church today by putting their faith in Jesus finished work on the cross. Again Ivar, show me where the Jesuits preach the rapture, please. Blessings!
Dear Nanette.
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You wrote:
Again Ivar, show me where the Jesuits preach the rapture, please. Blessings!
My comment:
I know that this will be a debate without end. But I will present my case. The Jesuit Order was formed by the Pope as a part of Counter Reformation. In a bid to prove that the Pope was not an antichrist, but THE very Christian leader. The Bishop of Rome must be accepted as the highest authority in all matters of faith on the face of the Earth.
All the Church reformers called the Pope an antichrist.
Almost all the Church leaders today reject the Church reformers. They claim it is not possible to identify the antichrist.
What happended?
The Jesuits have succeded. They have been able to abolish the fruits of the Reformation, and made the post-Reformation Church accept the core doctrine of the RCC. The Apostolic succession of the the Pope’s. Apostate Christian leaders in their tens of thousands, accept the Bishop of Rome to hold the seat of a true apostle.
How did the Jesuite gain their victory?
They have the permission to lie for the Papacy, as lomg as it is benefitical for the “Holy see”. They can even enter the Protestant chuch, and claim not to be a member of the RCC, to be able to plant doctrines that will achive their objectives.
The pre-trib doctrines is THE VERY doctrine that makes it impossible for any Church, to identify the antichrist. It replaces the core doctrine of the Church reformers. The Church is set check mate in one move, by all who proclaim pre-trib.
That the Church is not present on Earth from Revelation chapter 3 to chapter 22 is another error transmitted into the Church by this doctrine. It rejects pure logic and what is written. I will make my case in another comment.
Dear Nannette.
You wrote:
The Church is not mentioned again after Revelation 3:22 until the end of the tribulation where they are in heaven Revelation 22:17.
My comment:
If so, the Church is not mentioned in Revelation 4:1.
Revelation 4:1
After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.”
This is the very verse use by pre-tribbers to claim the rapture of the Church. It is a message to a man, a singular man called John, who is taken in a vision up to God, to see what will take place next. To say this is “the Church” is to add to scripture, in particular the book of revelation. This book it self warns that no one must add to what is written. Like a “singular” word being replaced by a “plural” word, to please our doctrinal convictions.
Now, dear sister. If the Church is not mentioned after Revelation 3:22, where is the verse, in this book, or sequence, that testify about the rapture?
Before I go further into the other errors of the pre-trib doctrine, I want to focus on this point. Because it has do do with a curse that will enter the Church.
Dear Ivar, you said in one of your posts, “our flight to Jerusalem” How are you going to get there? How am I going to get there living in the USA? Secondly, I will answer what you wanted me to focus on, that is most pretribber’s use Revelation 4:1. I will use the words of Jesus. Now remember in His earthly ministry He was talking to the Jews, specifically answering questions from the disciples who asked Him what the sign of His coming was and the end of the age. Matthew 24:3 “And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Then let them which are in Judea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. FOR THESE BE THE DAYS OF VENGENCE, THAT ALL THINGS WHICH ARE WRITTEN MAY BE FULFILLED.” Luke 21:20-22. Judea is called the Westbank of Israel today. Who is Jesus talking to? Jews. Jesus was rejected during His earthly ministry. If they would have accepted the ministry of John the Baptist, the fulfillment of Malachi 4:5-6 would have been fulfilled. That is what Jesus said, “And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.” Matthew 11:14&15. Jesus said He would not come back until HIs own the Jews say, “For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is He that cometh in the name of the Lord.” Matthew 23:39. They did not receive Jesus and Jesus said, “I Am come in My Father’s Name and ye receive me not. If another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. How can ye believe, which receive honor one of another, and seek not the honor that cometh from God only? Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father There is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in who ye trust. For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed Me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words? John 5:42-47. I will finish in my next post.
Jesus said, And some of the Pharasees from among the multitude said unto Him, Master, rebuke thy disciples. And He answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.” Luke 19:39&40. Who are the stones? Peter says, “Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.” 1 Peter 1:5. The most awesome ministry was that of Stephen who was a ‘born again’ Jew, read his testimony in Acts 6:5-7-7:58. Like I showed, Jesus came to His own and He was rejected. We must believe in the Millinium or none of this will make sense. The Roman Catholic Church is Amillennial meaning that the millinium is symbolic. They don’t believe in the rapture either. It is a complete apostate religion who is like you say trying to reverse the reformation. They believe the Roman church has replaced Israel. God is not through with Israel. Paul says, “For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, If you have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you ward. How that by revelation He made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, Whereby, when ye read, ye many understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ Which in other ages was not made KNOWN unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by Spirit. That the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, and of the same body and partakers of His promise in Christ by the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) See also Col. 1:25-29. The mystery is “To whom God would make known that is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.” Now the believers, Jew and Gentile have Christ in them, are they going to get God’s wrath? NO! What is an overcomer which Jesus spoke in all the churches in Revelation 2-22? He asked them to over come! “Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.” Revelation 3:10. An overcomer: “For what so ever is born of God overcometh the world. And this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.” 1 John 5:4. Jesus says, “Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Fathers house are many mansions. If it were not so, I would have told you. I GO TO PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU. And If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that WHERE I AM THERE YOU MAY BE ALSO. And whiter I go ye know and the way ye Know.” “I am the way, the truth, and the life. no man COMETH UNTO THE FATHER BUT BUY ME.” John 14:1-4,6. Read also 1 Corinthians 15. “Behold, I shew you a mystery; we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an ey, at the last trutm. For the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible and we shall be changed.” 1 Corinthians 15:51-52. I don’t know when Jesus with receive us to Himself, but I know I won’t be here for God’s wrath, I have put on Christ my beloved Savior, who died for me and gave Himself for me. Now I pray, “Lord come quickly” Blessings!
Dear nanette
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You asked:
Dear Ivar, you said in one of your posts, “our flight to Jerusalem” How are you going to get there? How am I going to get there living in the USA?
My reply:
You are going to be airlifted….By the Lord Him self. You are going to meet Him in the air. You will be taken to Jerusalem together with His Holy servants. We will all be like the angels, and be together with the Messiah at His judgment seat. When the Messiah returns, both the known time and the laws of physics will be set a side. It will be an awesome sequence of events.
The millenium “1000 years” can be like a day. Because “a day” for the Lord, is a day beyond our understanding of time. The age of judgment will take as lomg as it takes, the Messiah ruling the World with an iron rod. When the “prince of peace” returns as the Lion of Judah, there will be “peace”. All knees will bow, and all tongues confess, that Jesus is THE LORD.
Dear nanette.
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You wrote:
I will answer what you wanted me to focus on, that is most pretribber’s use Revelation 4:1.
My comment:
But I did not see any answer? Where is the verse, explaining the timing of the rapture?
I have heared many pre-tribbers using Revelation 4:1, and I am still clueless.
You wrote: “Revelation 2-22: He asked them to over come! “Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.”
To say that we will be “kept from” the hour of trial (or temptation), is not the same as being “taken away” from. The Jews were kept from the hour of trial in Egypt, during the times of the plages. If these plagues had been global, we would surley have understod this to be a time of Great Tribulation.
Ivar, Jesus says, “But of that day and hour knoweth NO MAN, no not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.” Matthew 24:36 Peter says, “But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.” 2 Peter 3:10 Paul says, “But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and THEY SHALL NOT ESCAPE. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. For God hath not appointed us TO WRATH, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ.” 1 Thess. 5:1-3,9. Look in Revelation 5:9-10, “And they sung a new song, saying, thou are worthy to take the book, and to open the seals there of for thou was slain, and has AND HAST REDEEMED US to God by the blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation. And has made US unto our God kings and priests. And we shall rein on the earth.” Revelation chapter 6 has not happened yet, and yet the church is in heaven. Read carefully Ivar. Your reply was unbiblical. There will be a literal 1000 year millinium where the church will rule and reign with Jesus. It is not as you say, “a day with the Lord is as a 1,000 years.” You took that out of context. Peter is reminding the church that, “the Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us ward, not will that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.” 2 Peter 3:9&10. In this verse it would seem to us that it is taking forever for Jesus to come, but he is waiting for the last church member (born again believer) . This is not talking about the millinium. In Revelation 20:2&3 says, “And He laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bout him a thousand years, and cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, TILL THE THOUSAND YEARS SHOULD BE FULFILLED and after that he must be loosed a little season.” Also I don’t think the Lord is going to pick me up and take me to Jerusalem, heaven is my home and that is where I’m going. Paul says, “For the hope which is laid up for you IN HEAVEN, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel.” Colossians 1:5 Then, “WHEN CHRIST, WHO IS OUR LIFE, SHALL APEAR, THEN SHALL YE ALSO APPEAR WITH HIM IN GLORY.” Colossians 3:4 “TO THE END HE MAY STABLISH YOUR HEARTS UNBLAMEABLE IN HOLINESS BEFOE GOD, EVEN OUR FATHER, AT THE COMING OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WITH ALL HIS SAINTS.” 1 Thessalonians 3:13 Blessings!
Dear Nanette.
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You wrote:
” Also I don’t think the Lord is going to pick me up and take me to Jerusalem, heaven is my home and that is where I’m going.
My comment:
So Jesus the Messiah will be ruling in Jerusalem without you being present.
I have always woundered if the people who are having a party in Heaven, are going to return to Earth. Since there must be a seperation of the sheep and the goat, as foretold in Matthew 25.
If the church is at the wedding baquette in heaven during the separation of the sheep and the goats, who are these sheep?
A second Church, not worthy of being raptured into the banquette hall?
If the separation of the sheep and the goats already have taken place, when the wedding party starts, than Jesus must appear in Jerusalem before the rapture. This is just a bid to apply some simple common sense, in stead of trying to fit verses into a doctrine.
That the Lord will come like a thief in the night, do not mean he is a thief. Nor that it will be night when he appear in His second comming. But we know that the sun will be darkended, and not give proper daylight on any part of the globe.
We do not know the hour or the day. But time is put together by more than hours and days….There will surely be both seasons, and signs, that points towards His second comming.
Ps. Many people are very well prepeared for potential thifs that will appear in the night.
All who beliieve will be ready, and waiting for Him. The World will not. All the pagans will be utterly surprised, to their eternal shame.
Dear Nanette.
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
What is “1.000 years” for God? And what will his “day” be like? Is God’s day 24 hours?
There are people who belive that God did His creation in six days lasting 24 hours. And that creation took place some 6.000 years ago. Strangely enough they belive that anything else related to God’s character and nature, is timeless and eternal.
How long was “God’s day”, before he created the sun?
Please answer me.
Ivar, you said, “how long was God’s day before He created the sun?” He created the sun and moon on day 4. Genesis 1:16-18. So before that He created on day 3, dry land (earth), seas, grass, herbs yielding seed, fruit trees which seed was in itself. Ivar, in verse 5, “And God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. AND EVENING AND MORNING WERE THE FIRST DAY. That is a 24 hour period, just like it says. Why would it be so hard to believe literally that the millinium will be 1,000 years when Methuselah lived 969 years? (Genesis 5:27). God lives in eternity. We live on earth.
Nanette.
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You ducked my question. So I’l try again.
Was God’s day 24 hours before He created the sun?
Ivar, if you are a disciple of Jesus then you would believe in what God’s word says. You would believe there will be a literal 1,000 millenniam. You would believe that Jesus is God in the flesh, and that God created the heavens and the earth in 6 literal days and on the 7th day he rested. That there will be a literal judgment on earth called the great tribulation. You never answered my questions. Why did God spare Noah and Lot when he judged the wicked, why not destroy the wicked with the righteous as you say God will do in the Great tribulation? And you never proved to me that the Jesuits created the rapture theory. Have a blessed day.
Dear Nanette
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You make God’s creation an object of human understanding of “a day”. A 24 hour day. That is a God who is limited to the understanding of a human mind. A man made idol. Please rise above the horizon of the human mind and the atmosphere, and take a look. And try to reflect on the creation, before the sun was created. Out in space, you might be able to grasp timelessness, and a creator God beyond time amd space. Just like Genesis chapter 1 says: God simply said: “Let there be light”.
The book of Job is good reading. Who is able to understand the depts and heighs of God’s creation? Still he had probably never seen pictures from outer space.
Dear Nanette.
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You wrote:
Why did God spare Noah and Lot when he judged the wicked, why not destroy the wicked with the righteous as you say God will do in the Great tribulation?
My reply:
An Noah and Lot was not even raptured…..
I have never said that God will destroy the wicked with the righetous in the Great Tribulation. To the radical oposite, I have said we will be kept through the Great Tribulation. And if we are martyred, we are not destroyed. We are just promoted to Heaven.
nanette, while I have an abiding and growing Faith in God through Christ Jesus for the last 39 years, I believe “The Rapture” as it is taught as Christian Doctrine, is a deception of the False Prophet. It is illogical and makes no sense to me whatsoever.
Think about the Doctrine! Just before Armageddon and all hell breaks loose on this earth, the “good sinners” will be physically removed as as not to experience the torments reserved for the other sinners in their flesh.
If you believe this, it takes away any incentive or inducement to do anything to stop the unfolding Armageddon even Atheists see shaping up on the horizon. Atheists know what Armageddon means.
And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. (false beliefs about the Eternal God in Judaism, Christianity & Islam. This included the 3rd branch 600 years before Islam appeared)
For they are the spirits of DEVILS, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth (Presidents, Prime Ministers, the 1%, CEOs and other IDOLS of the People) and of the whole world,(the rest of the People) to gather them to the Battle of that Great Day of God Almighty.
Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
Revelation 16
Here the living scripture tells us it is false religion and Devils leading this world to Armageddon and the Churches praise the Lord and pass the ammunition. Why should God spare Christians who do not do and live the Truth?
Armageddon was derived from Har Megiddo located in the occupied West Bank of Roman Palestine 2000 years ago. Israel had disappeared from among the kingdoms of this world some 700 years earlier.
Har Megiddo/Armageddon still exists as a physical place in Israel recreated from the Bible after an absence of some 2700 years. The explosive issue in Today’s world is still over an occupation of Palestine these thousands of years later.
Besides, scripture tells me, even if others can’t grasp it, Christ Jesus does not believe in “The Rapture” as it is being taught as an escape hatch. This is made clear in his other prayer to the Lord:
I pray not that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil.
John 17
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for You are with me; Your rod and Your staff they comfort me.
“Nevertheless when the Son of man comes, shall he find Faith on the earth?”
Luke 18:8
Why is this view in scripture? The True Believers will stand out and the false Believers will be exposed at the end of it all.
Ivar, you never answer my questions. That is what false teachers do, they change the subject and go on some kind of strange doctrine like the cults do. The beginning of this post was about Luke 17:26-30. Look how far around we have come from the original thought of this conversation we are having. You brought up the Jesuit inspired theory of the rapture of which you never answered. After my first comment, you continually change the subject. I asked originally why did God spare Noah and Lot in typology of Luke 17?
Dear Nanette.
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
I have answered your question about the pre-trib doctrine being of Jesuit origin. A docrine that makes it heretical to claim that the Pope is an antichrist. Just like the Vatican II council demands.
It is a teaching in the church, that came from the Jesuits. It was absorbed by the Plymoth Brethren in the 1830-ties, and are today leading the majority of the Pentacostal Charismatics off the cliff.
From Wikipedia:
Authors generally maintain that the pre-tribulation Rapture doctrine originated in the eighteenth century, with the Puritan preachers Increase and Cotton Mather, and was then popularized in the 1830s by John Darby.[14][15] Others, including Grant Jeffrey, maintain that an earlier document called Ephraem or Pseudo-Ephraem already supported a pre-tribulation rapture.[16]
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In 1590, Francisco Ribera, a Catholic Jesuit, taught “futurism” the idea that most of Revelation was about the future, and therefore, not about the Catholic Church. He also taught that the rapture would happen 45 days before the end of a 3.5 year tribulation.
Before this, this kind of herecy was only taught by one Roman Catholic “Church father”, Ephraem the Syrian. He wrote down this doctrine around 600 A.D, in his heretical book named ” Apocalypse of Pseudo-Ephraem the Syrian”. This book include a lot of rubbish.
You can read more about this heretic stuff at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture
Preach that to the millions of Christians who are being persecuted and tortured and killed right now for their faith.
Do these “rapture” believers really believe that they are more privileged than those who are suffering for Christ right now.
So armorrcc are we in the Tribulation now? Who is the anti-Christ? Where is the worldwide famine where it takes a days wages to buy food? Revelation 6:1-8. The Bible clearly teaches persecution of the church and the Jews by the world and even by so called Bible believing Christians. Some of the millions being murdered are not all Christians. They are from other religions as well. The Muslims are killing muslims, they are killing Jews, and Catholics, civilians (homosexuals) & the military members, etc. I did not say we would not suffer persecution. I have been talking about God’s wrath on the unbelieving world and how God rescued Noah, and Lot being a picture or a typology of the Harpazo. Blessings!
Ivar, I have no idea what your talking about. I did not duck your question, I was going by scripture which is our final authority. God had no beginning, He pre-existed along with the Son, and Holy Spirit. There is no time in heaven, it is eternal. We do not know what heaven is like, we are on earth living in time that God created for us to live in our mortal bodies. That is, 365 days in a year with a 24 hour time clock. We have earthly bodies, but when we go to heaven we will have heavenly bodies. We will be changed. “Behold, I shew you a mystery; we shall not all sleep, but we shall be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye at the last trump. for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.” 1 Corinthians 15:51-52
Dear nanette.
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
I am not the first disciple of Jesus, reflecting on how long ” a day” is for God. Before the Sun existed, there was no sunrise on the face of the Earth. The 24 hour “day” is a man’s understanding of a day. From sunrise to sunrise.
God’s understanding of time is timeless.
2.Peter 3: 7-8
But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
HOPE THE COMMENTS ARE SHORT .
Amen.
The messages from Jesus to MDM have come to light.
Take for instance same sex marriage given to MDM March 16, 2012 its now came to pass. We have the oppertunity to re read the messages from the beginning a…………………………………………..
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The message:::
My dearly beloved daughter, the pain and suffering of My poor followers, who have ………………………………………
Not only do you have to witness sin, children, you then have to watch as sin is prese…………………………it as being humane.
I refer to one sin in particular, same sex marriage, which is presented as a natural right.
You are then expected to accept this abomination, as it is set before My Father’s Throne in a church.
…more
Oldman.
Shalom, and love and Jesus.
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Oldman
The Catholic Church has already decleared MDM false in 2011. Maria Divine Mercy’s identity has now been revealed and she has closed shop. MDM does not exist anymore.
I don’t think the axe of destruction is going to come any sooner than the axe falls on the whole earth, since the whole earth is prophecied to become like Sodom and Gomorrah. The truth is a double edge sword, it is a good day for bible prophecies being fulfilled, reassuring us that Christs kingdom is coming, but a sad day for righteous Americans who will have to suffer day by day as the increase of wickedness torments their souls.
Proverbs 28:12 When the righteous triumph, there is great rejoicing, but when the wicked come to power, people hide themselves.
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