Bachmann calls Jews to embrace their Messiah

Former presidential candidate Michele Bachmann called for an intensified effort to share the gospel with Jews.

Michelle Backman has given an urgent call to share the gospel with Jews.
Michelle Backmann has given an urgent call to share the gospel with Jews.

The Times of Israel: Bachmann, a former congresswoman from Minnesota who ran for the Republican presidential nod in 2012, was in Israel last week on a tour organized by the Family Research Council, a conservative Christian group.

Toward the end of the week, she spoke on FRC President Tony Perkins’ radio program, Washington Watch, and discussed the meaning of the recent intensification of violence in Israel and the West Bank. She cast the violence as a signal of the return of Jesus, which would necessitate mass conversions.

“We recognize the shortness of the hour,” Bachmann said, “and that’s why we as a remnant want to be faithful in these days and do what it is that the Holy Spirit is speaking to each one of us, to be faithful in the Kingdom and to help bring in as many as we can — even among the Jews — share Jesus Christ with everyone that we possibly can because, again, He’s coming soon.”

Source: The Times of Israel

My comment:

The word “conversion” is wrongly put on the messages of Michele Bachmann. “Conversion” is consideded to be a crime in Israel, and used by anti-missionary Orthodox Jews in a bid to stop people sharing the gospel.

 Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile.

What Bachmann is saying, is that the gospel must be shared with Jews. That is in fact the very job evangelical Christians have been given by their Master.

Many evangelical Friends of Israel do not share the gospel with Jews. A Messianic Jew correctly said that this error is the most serious form of antisemitism. Because people who claim to know “god” do not feel the gospel has any relevance to the Jewish people.  Their love for the Jewish people are wordily, and not rooted in the eternal perspective.

A Jew do not have to convert to Christianity to be saved. He just need to see that the Messiah has come once to Jerusalem, and is returning. That the Messiah has fulfilled the Torah, and paid for the sins of the World in full with His own blood.

A Jew who believe Yeshua is the Messiah, is still a Jew. He can continue to uphold the Sabbath, and keep on celebrating the feasts of the Bible. All of them of Jewish origin. The Messiah Him self was Jewish.

Written by Ivar

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24 thoughts on “Bachmann calls Jews to embrace their Messiah

  1. We are called to make disciples, not converts ( Acts 11:26). The gospel is to the Jew first and also to the Greek (Romans 1:16). Paul preached in the synagogue first, and then he went to the Gentiles. You said, Ivar a “A Jew do not have to convert to Christianity to be saved” Yes they do. Christians are Jews and Gentiles who believe in Jesus and are called the “church”. Christians are “Christ” followers-disciples. “And when he (Barnabas) had brought him (Saul) unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the CHURCH, and taught much people. And the DISCIPLES WERE CALLED CHRISTIANS first in Antioch.” Acts 11:26. The first “Christians” were JEWS!

    1. Dear Nannette.

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      You wrote:

      And the DISCIPLES WERE CALLED CHRISTIANS first in Antioch.” Acts 11:26. The first “Christians” were JEWS!

      My reply:

      “Christ” is the English translation of a Greek word. It do not make sense to use this word in a Hebrew context. Facing the people of Israel, I like to call my self Messianic. I am a follower of Yeshua Ben David, the Son of David, the Lion of Judah, the eternally begotten Son of God. I do not want to have anything to do with the Helenistic copy-cat.

      My friends in Israel call me “Messianim”. A follower of the Messiah.

  2. I want to add this. Roman Catholics are NOT Christians and that is where the confusion is coming from. Jews don’t understand this, and they need to know. Roman Catholics have a different Jesus (Eucharist). So do the Mormons (They believe Jesus is the brother of satan), Seventh Day Adventists (they think that Michael the archangel is jesus) as do the Jehovah witnesses. True ‘Christians’ are Christ followers who believe the SCRIPTURES, through the SCRIPTURES is where we find out about Messiah. “Moreover brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I (Paul) preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also YE ARE SAVED, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS according to the SCRIPTURES; and that He was buried, and that he rose again the third day ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES.” 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. Not traditions! They need to believe MOSES. “For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed Me (Jesus). for he wrote of Me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe My words?” John 5:46-47

    1. Dear Nanette.

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      You wrote:

      I want to add this. Roman Catholics are NOT Christians and that is where the confusion is coming from.

      My reply:

      It is true that Roman Catholics are false Christians, who defame the Messiah using the name of “Christ”. But every Jew has a responsibilty to search for the truth. Just like every gentile. Those who seek, shall find. For all who knocks, the door shall be opened.

  3. Peace to you Ivar and your readers.

    When this came to me by email there were errors that stood out straight away, but I did not respond, holding back, but was woken last night and reminded that I had not corrected that which I had seen.

    The original posting started as follows.

    ‘Michelle Backmann has given an urgent call to share the gospel with Jews’.

    Scriptures warn of false teachers preaching false gospels, Michelle gives an urgent call for ‘the gospel’ to be shared, false teachers call their gospel ‘the gospel’ so, Michelle should be more specific about which gospel she believes should be shared with the Jews because the pope himself will tell you that ‘the gospel’ should be preached and we know his version is false.

    Michelle also said

    ‘She cast the violence as a signal of the return of Jesus, which would necessitate mass conversions.’

    You pointed out correctly the way the word ‘conversion’ is received in Israel by religious Jews.

    But what about Michelles comment that mass conversions are implied to be a prerequisite to the return of the Lord Jesus Christ?

    The Lord Jesus Christ is going to return, whether people respond to those who are genuinely called to spread the Gospel according to scripture, or not, it will not stop the Lord Jesus Christs return at the hour appointed by Our Father in heaven.

    Matthew 24
    36 “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.

    I suspect Michelle Bachmann is a bit like the Pharisees that Jesus criticised for being able to discern the weather but unable to discern that He was their future Messiah, coming first as Saviour and in the future as Messiah.

    Michelle can see as we all can that there are wars and rumours of wars, that brother rises against brother as is the case with Isis and the muslim on muslim violence, but she seems to think that mass conversion of Jews must take place as part of the return.

    The Lord Jesus came first to the Jews, all of the disciples were Jews and because His ministry was centred in and around Judea His converts were Jews, they received the Gospel He taught first. The Apostles continued after Pentecost but, we read that among their first converts were Jews and Proselytes who were gentiles who had converted to Judaism and were their to keep the feast of passover then unleavened bread and finally to count Pentecost. So the Jews and those who followed them received the Gospel that Jesus commanded the Apostles to preach, first.

    The most well known ‘convert’ was Saul who underwent ‘conversion’ and was then named Paul and is referred to as the Apostle to the gentiles though he first preaced in synagogues to Jews, so he went to the Jews first and then the gentiles.

    Religious Jews will not like the word conversion, but one of their own ‘Saul’ was ‘converted’.

    I believe we must then look at scripture for an explanation.

    44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.

    God works in mysterious ways and stirs the soul of those He is drawing into a relationship with Him through His Son.

    There are those who God has called to preach the gospel He commanded the Apostles to preach. Knowing what that gospel is, will help us discern whether the individual who claims to have been called to preach ‘the gospel’ has been called or is presumptious about their calling.

    Matthew 24
    14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

    Matthew 4
    23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease among the people.

    Matthew 9
    35 Then Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.

    Mark 1
    14 Now after John was put in prison, Jesus came to Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,

    Does your Pastor preach ‘the Gospel of the Kingdom of God’?

    Most evangelicals preach the good news that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, which indeed is good news (gospel) but it is not the gospel that Jesus preached, or the Gospel the Apostles were commanded to preach.

    The good news is this, that after the beginning of sorrows, after the great tribulation, the Lord Jesus Christ will come as the Lion of Judah and establish the Kingdom of God on earth. He will rule as King of kings and Lord of lords and those who God has drawn and have responded to the call will be among the kings and lords who rule with Him, they will be in the first resurrection which will take place at His return, those who have been drawn and responded and are alive on that day, will be transformed on that day and raised up to be with Him and will rule with Him for a thousand years.

    Revelation 20
    6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

    ‘Over such the second death has no power’.

    At the end of the 1000 year period, Satan will be released and there will be a final battle and he will be defeated and cast into the lake of fire, then there will be a further resurrection of all who have ever lived.

    The book of life will be opened and the final judgement will then take place.

    Ivar, I apologise for the length of this post, but it is vital your readers ‘listen’ carefully to those who preach something they call ‘the gospel’.

    It is vital that they then study scriptures carefully just like the noble Jews of Berea, so that they can discern whether the ‘gospel’ their pastor is preaching is the gospel that Jesus, the Christ, the Son of the Living God commanded His Apostles to preach.

    1. Hi Allistair
      You said a lot there.
      just a comment regarding what the apostles preached.
      Paul said he preached Christ crucified, buried, and rose again the third day.
      Jesus himself preached about the gospel of the Kingdom. what was that gospel?
      John the Baptist the last Old testament prophet preached the gospel of the kingdom.
      What was that gospel? What was the good news about the Kingdom of God.
      The good news is; if you were there then to hear Jesus or John proclaim it, was that it was at hand.
      The good news was that The kingdom of God or Kingdom of heaven that God wanted to be on earth,
      which was his plan and will from the beginning. Remember the prayer that Jesus told them they
      should pray, Our Father who art in heaven hallowed be thy name. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done
      on earth as it is in heaven. and at that time Jesus was saying that the Kingdom of God is at hand.
      What does at hand mean? What do you suppose it meant to those who were listening to him say it.
      If I was standing there or sitting listening to Jesus or John say it. I would maybe have said because of unbelief
      yeh sure and and I’m Elijah or maybe my ears would have perked up because I believed what the
      prophets had said about the kingdom coming. Now if Jesus himself said the kingdom was at hand and
      they understand what at hand means like I understand what at hand means then they would believe that the kingdom
      is upon them. When Paul said his departure was at hand, what did he mean? Obviously we understand that to mean that his death was going to take place in the very near future. Very soon he would die. He died soon after those words.
      in a matter of months. When Jesus said that the kingdom was at hand he didn’t mean 2000 years later.
      2000 years later looking back; what should the preaching of the gospel of the kingdom be? That it is still at hand
      or that it came. if Jesus said it was at hand and it didn’t come in their time then he was lying to them. Or it did
      come and they missed it. Unbelief causes blindness Just as it did with the Israelites and even the Religious leaders
      of the Israelites. I never hear preached the gospel of the Kingdom as already came and here in its fullness.
      I have heard it preached as here but not yet. Its either here or it is not here. Jesus said 2000 years ago the kingdom is at
      hand. Meaning its right at the door. Did God change his mind about the kingdom being established on earth as it is in heaven at that time to another distant time in the future or did his will take place as Jesus said that it was at the door?
      What do you believe about the Kingdom of God on earth. Any who read this comment, what do you believe?

      1. Hi Todd.

        In effect you answered your own question.

        You wrote
        ‘When Paul said his departure was at hand, what did he mean?’

        And correctly understood that Paul knew his end was near, but, even though it was ‘at hand’ he was still alive. So it was close,even iminent but he was still alive.

        When I read your response I was drawn to something Christ said to Pilate.

        John 18 verse 36

        36 Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.”

        If my memory serves me right, where the above says ‘is not of this world’ the greek can be translated to ‘not of this age, or era’.

        Because he gave this answer, Pilate found that Jesus was not a threat to Roman rule and therefore there was no crime to answer.

        The answer Jesus gave teaches us that the Kingdom has yet to come.

        But it is also true that Jesus spoke saying the Kingdom was at hand.

        The One who is to reign as King of kings was tood next to the Pharisees, they had access to the words of the Prophets and with all their studying should have recognised Him, in fact the Pharisees did know who He was.

        3 When Herod the king heard this, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.
        4 And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he inquired of them where the Christ was to be born.
        5 So they said to him, “In Bethlehem of Judea, for thus it is written by the prophet:
        6 ‘ But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, Are not the least among the rulers of Judah; For out of you shall come a Ruler Who will shepherd My people Israel.’ ”

        The aboe says chief priests and scribes, they were Pharisees because the Pharisees were in control at the time. They knew what the prophets foretold, they knew where to look.

        So if we look at context, we can see that the future King was present and could have been identified but from day one, they were determined to hold on to their positions.

        And we also should understand that Jesus came first as Saviour and will come again as Messiah and set up the Kingdom.

      2. Allistair
        I will try to respond with short comments so as to comply with the editor’s wishes.
        yes when Paul said his time of departure was at hand he knew it was near.
        I believe that Jesus would not say anything to deceive his listeners. Those who had ears to hear
        and eyes to see understood I believe he knew
        his kingdom was soon to arrive. In fact didn’t he tell his disciples or maybe it was
        the Pharisees that if the son of man drives out demons then the kingdom is here.
        I’m trying to find that verse.
        The word imminent is brought up often almost always in these kinds of discussions.
        that is a word that is used I believe to mask the real understanding because of unbelief
        and yes it does infer that something could happen at anytime, I believe that it means that it
        is imminent in their time not ours. he’s talking to them not us. We make the mistake of
        thinking that Jesus is talking to us. Audience relevance in the context is important to consider.
        If Jesus meant his kingdom was not going to come soon he would have said.
        As far as the translation regarding his kingdom is not of this age or era, then we are either still in that age
        or another age has come but its not the one that he was referring too. what age was he saying that his
        kingdom was not of. the one he was in obviously and it was soon to come to an end. in his Olivet discourse
        his disciples asked him what would be the signs of the end of the age and his coming. The leading sign
        that he told them was the destruction of the temple. But that was not the end.Then immediately after that the great tribulation would begin such as had never been before. Then the end would come. That generation saw the temple destroyed, No other generation has seen that since, so one would have to think that the age ended and a new age began.
        Jesus himself he did not know the day or the hour but he said this generation would not pass until all these had been fulfilled. When he said to consider the Fig tree. he said that when its shoots come out and leaves appear you know that
        summer is at the door. let me ask you, when you look outside in the summer can you see it? when I look out
        in summer I see the affects of a change in climate that has made everything bloom. When did that climate change take place? On the calendar we give it a certain day. but the day before and the day after that designated day didn’t look
        any different. we don’t really know when summer begins but we know that it did because of what we see and feel outside.
        if we stood outside waiting for the exact day or even hour we would not be able to determine its arrival because the
        moment before and after or even the day before or after didn’t appear to be any different.
        So it was with his coming.
        enough for now.
        I hope that is not to long Ivar.
        let me know if it is

      3. Dear Todd

        Shalom, and love in Jesus.

        You can write as long as you want, and rake up as many theological issues as you desire. But you will discover that you have made these points for your self.

        I desire to debate with people. One topic at the time. For this purpuse, I write these articles. Not to try to convice only my self.

      4. Dear Todd.

        Shalom and love in Jesus.

        Michelle Backmann made a simple but very mportant point. Evangelical Christians must share the gospel with the Jews.

        Was she wrong?

        Is it becasue ‘Christians” do not know, or do not understand the gospel, that they do not share the good news with Jews?

        Or are there other reasons?

      5. Hi Todd.

        You made a number of points, if I address them all, I will exceed 200 lines, though all may have to be addressed at some stage.

        The verse you were looking for?

        Matthew 12 verse 28

        28 But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

        Looking at the context of that verse we see that Jesus had cast out demons and the Pharisees had declared that Jesus was doing it in the name of Beelzebul the prince of demons.

        Whilst Jesus does say ‘the Kingdom of God’ He says it has ‘come upon you’. There isn’t a reference to this pertaining to the ‘gospel’ of the Kingdom of God, but a reference to the authority by which Jesus was able to cast out demons.

        The next point your raised is this.

        The word imminent is brought up often almost always in these kinds of discussions.
        that is a word that is used I believe to mask the real understanding because of unbelief
        and yes it does infer that something could happen at anytime, I believe that it means that it
        is imminent in their time not ours. he’s talking to them not us.

        In the first part you state that you believe the word imminent is use to mask real understanding because of unbelief.

        In otherwords, the person who uses the word imminent is lacking in some understanding.

        The Apostle Paul believed that Christs return was imminent and was driven to do what he did because of it, though there are indications that he later realised that Christs return would not be in his lifetime.

        From that we learn that as Paul walked the walk, he grew in understanding, therefore we too can draw on this and walk the walk in confidence that we too will grow in understanding of the times in which we live.

        Going back to what Michelle wrote.

        She cast the violence as a signal of the return of Jesus, which would necessitate mass conversions.

        There will be mass conversions as the end of the age approaches.

        These conversions will be to the false one world religion, where people accept the mark of the beast who is supported by the false prophet.

        Nannette rightfully pointed out that Jews especially their religious leaders do not know the difference between a Catholic a protestant and a Jehovahs witness, they think all are Christians.

        Not long ago Pope Benedict told a chief Rabbi that Jews did not need to accept Christ to receive salvation.

        Do you think that was good news (gospel) to the Rabbi?

        The violence is a sign of the times.

        Jesus called it the beginning of sorrows.

      6. Allistair
        While Paul did imply that he might not see the 2nd advent or parousia as some call it, I call it the day of The Lord, he never doubted that it woul happen in the generation which he lived. He ,knew the words that Jesus had spoken to his disciples on the Mt of Olives and was driven and continued until his death to believe it would take place. He died before that generation (the generation that
        Jesus said would see the temple destroyed) passed away. It is not clear in any of the research I have done exactly when he died. But it was definately before that generation had passed. Jesus told his disciples that they would be persecuted and killed in that generational. With the exception of John they all
        Were martyrs for Jesus in that generation. Paul died just before that generation Passed. A biblical generation is 40 years. A generation of Israelites died out in the wilderness because of unbelief. It took Forty years for that generation to
        Die off.
        The problem that we have here is this;
        Organized Judaism denies or does not believe that Jesus came the first time
        And organized Christianity does not believe that he came the second time.
        Both think that these events could not happened unnoticed.
        The first coming was missed with the exception of handful of people that scripture records.
        His second coming was a spiritual event. Unseen. Paul said things that are visible are temporary and things that are unseen are eternal. He came to consummate the old age that the disciples asked when it would end. and usher in the new age. The age when heaven would be on earth just as it is in heaven.
        The kingdom is in our midst. We need to seek it
        Paul died just before the old age ended. He also didn’t go down he went up.
        By that time Sheol was no more. That’s why he said to be absent from the body
        Is to be present with the Lord.(something they didn’t say in the Old Testament)

      7. Hi Todd.

        You wrote

        The problem that we have here is this;
        Organized Judaism denies or does not believe that Jesus came the first time
        And organized Christianity does not believe that he came the second time.
        Both think that these events could not happened unnoticed.
        The first coming was missed with the exception of handful of people that scripture records.
        His second coming was a spiritual event.

        Your point re organised Judaism, I would agree with.

        Your second?

        The Bible says

        The Coming of Christ
        11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and wages war.
        12 His eyes are a flame of fire, and on His head are many diadems; and He has a name written on Him which no one knows except Himself.
        13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
        14 And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, were following Him on white horses.
        15 From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty.
        16 And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written, “KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.”

        Revelation was given to John after the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ to show us what is to happen in the future.

        John was carried forward to a time yet to come.

        There are other issues with your position.

        The Lord Jesus taught that sickness, death and sorrow would be a thing of the past in the Kingdom of God.

        Today my parents are at a funeral, someone got sick and died, there will be tears.

        When asked about the end of the age.

        Jesus said there will be wars and rumours of wars, nation against nation, brother against brother, but the end is not yet.

        This is the beginning of sorrows.

        I did ask you a question once.

        Why did Jesus speak in parables?

        Do you remember your answer?

      8. Allistair
        Just another thought.
        The kingdom of heaven that is on earth that Jesus is King of is an eternal
        Kingdom of whose government and people their will be no end as was prophesied by the prophets. It’s eternal. What is unseen is eternal as Paul said
        We belong to it. Can it be seen?

      9. Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen.

        If His second coming occurred and was not noticed then the above scripture is in error because it says ‘every eye will see him’.

        If His second coming has happened then there would be record of it and all those eyes that saw would have their own version of events to tell.

        If it was spiritual and only those with eyes to see saw it, again, the above scripture would be in error because it says ‘every eye will see him’. Not just those with eyes to see but at the time of His second coming all who are alive then who are not raised up to be with Him will witness His second coming.

        It is yet still in the future.

      10. Hi Allistair,
        Ivar said I would be debating with myself. I should listen to his wisdom.
        If the second coming or the day of The Lord did not happen then we are still
        In the old age that he was in and all the rest of the disciples were in.
        And therefore the signs that Jesus told them of the end of the age did not happen.
        You asked me why Jesus spoke in parables a while back and I answered you and you actually said that was the correct answer. So I won’t answer it again.
        The Jewish people mostly were blind except those that God had given ears to hear and eyes to see things. The religious leaders were also blind. Jesus called them blind guides. The people believed what they taught. Today in the church we have the same citation. Blind Guides leading the blind. Church folk would rather follow the traditions of men rather than what Gods word said.
        Our blind guides think they know more than Jesus..
        Every argument you make against what I believe can be found in any commentary. Traditions of men. Bible notes are loaded with your arguments.
        I used to be where you are but then I read the bible and meditated on it with an open mind and amazingly the Holy Spirit began to reveal things.
        With that said I guess we disagree on the topic of the second coming but perhaps sometime we will have a topic we can agree on. One thing for sure
        When we get to heaven and our fleshly eyes are removed we will definately
        See correctly.

      11. Hi todd.

        Perhaps we should have started by establishing whether we agree on the definition of the word debate.

        In a debate individuals put forward their view on a topic. At the end of the debate those involved might still disagree but those who read through or hear the debate have the opportunity to form an opinion.

        One party might be persuaded to change their opinion in the process of the debate but debate in the first instance should be about the expression of opinion, on a topic but not of a person.

        Interestingly, your final comment added intrigue.

        You wrote

        When we get to Heaven and our fleshly eyes are removed we will definitely see correctly.

        You have put forward throughout that the Kingdom of Heaven is already here and you’re in it. And above you say “when we get to heaven” indicating that we’re not in heaven yet, and because we still have fleshly eyes we cannot yet see clearly.

        You suggest that the points I make can be found in many commentaries, I have only read my Bible and cannot comment on the content of other sources.

        You suggest that commentaries are the source of traditions of man.

        The Bible teaches that there are those who ‘teach for doctrine traditions of men’.

        Which of the following are traditions of men?

        Christmas
        Easter
        Pentecost
        Passover
        Eucharist
        Shrove tuesday
        Lent
        Mass
        Devali
        Haj
        Thanksgiving.

        But most important of all.

        Are we in debate or are we trying to convert each from our position to the others.

        Are we trying to promote thought in those reading our comments, or are we trying to lead the reader to judge us as individuals?

        You put forward to Ivar that you wanted to inspire the readers to think, me too.

        I did say that your answer to my question was in line with what scripture said, however that was one of a series of questions I have asked of people in debates, I may be inspired to put forward another sometime.

        But in the meantime my source for response will remain as always the Bible.

        God bless you.

    2. Dear Allistair

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      1. This is a site for debate. When you write a comment on 200 lines, very few people will read it. You send a message, that you do not want a debate.

      2. It is possible to share theology, political points and phillosphy with the Jewish people. But that is not what Christians are called to do.

      3. The gospel is simple. Some men makes things very complicated, and confusing.

      4. The messiah, Jesus of Nazareth freely died in the cross at Calvary. He paid the atonining sacrefice for all sins, and fulfilled the law. In His blood there is forgiveness. He rose from th death for our justification. If we surrender to His Lordship, we become His subjects. Our final destiny is the eternal kingdom of Heaven. We are SAVED!. If we reject Him as the promised Messiah, we will perish.

      5. This short messages is NOT given to the Jewish people by may claimed to be evangelical friends of Israel.

      1. Peace to you Ivar.

        In response to point 1.

        I counted the lines, I am not a brilliant mathematician, but I got to around 60.

        In response to point 2.

        The Parable of the Talents
        14 “For the kingdom of heaven is like a man traveling to a far country, who called his own servants and delivered his goods to them.
        15 And to one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one, to each according to his own ability; and immediately he went on a journey.

        Not all Christians are called to preach.

        Each are given gifts and each is to use what they are given, all are expected to use what they have been given and return more than what they started with, but, each is called as an individual and each individuals calling is not the same.

        4 There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
        5 There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord.
        6 And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all.
        7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all:
        8 for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit,
        9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit,
        10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues.
        11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.

        In response to point 3.

        The good news that Jesus, the Christ, the Son of the Living God has laid down His life and shed His blood for all those who believe. is indeed good news.

        It is simple to those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, but to those who do not, it is more complicated, however, through what He did on the cross, His sacrifice forms the bedrock of our Salvation.

        Then the believer must begin his/her walk of faith.

        Philippians 2
        12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling,

        The believer must live his/her life as a believer, growing and using the measure of gifts given so that he/she presents themselves as a good and faithful servant.

        In response to point 4

        The biggest little word in the English language ‘if’ has been used a lot in your statement.

        The messiah, Jesus of Nazareth freely died in the cross at Calvary. He paid the atonining sacrefice for all sins.

        This part is true.

        and fulfilled the law.

        This part is error.

        Matthew 5
        18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

        The Lord Jesus Christ has not yet returned and ruled for 1000 years, therefore the law has yet to be fulfilled, I could list more,

        In His blood there is forgiveness. He rose from th death for our justification.

        If we surrender to His Lordship, we become His subjects.

        There’s the ‘if’ word, ‘if’ implies conditional on our surrender. But ‘if’ we do surrender we do indeed become His subjects.

        Our final destiny is the eternal kingdom of Heaven.

        True and if we study the Bible and are open to what it teaches we discover something truly amazing.

        After Christ has ruled for 1000 years, Satan is released once more, he is thrown into the lake of fire and then what happens?

        God, our Father who are in heaven comes to dwell in the Kingdom of heaven established here with His Son as King.

        We are SAVED!.

        As per the above quote, each believer must work out his salvation with fear and trembling. Each believer must learn to understand the purpose of their calling and use the skills given according to measure.

        For some, it may be simply that all God expects is that they believe, for others they may be required to go out into the world and preach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, as it has to preached to all the world before the end comes.

        If we reject Him as the promised Messiah, we will perish.

        True.

        In response to point 5.

        God is greater than you and I, He has His eye on the descendants of Judah wherever they are in the world, He will call whoever He wills to minister to them, and they too will have to be like the noble Jews of Berea. Listen carefully then go home and study scriptures to see if what has been taught is true.

        Once again Ivar.

        I have to apologise for the length of my response, but you posted the points and I have tried to respond to each one briefly, but no doubt my responses will be questioned.

  4. Hi Ivar
    Peace
    I agree with Michelle.
    I have heard her speak at the university I am on staff
    I can assure you the gospel she is speaking of is the gospel of
    Yeshua Ben David. Yeshua crucified, buried, and rose again the third day
    Atoned for sins conquered death and so on.
    She has a genuine love for Israel and love of Jewish people.
    She believes in the God of the Hebrews.
    Her Jesus is not the copy cat.
    She is genuine in her comments about the Jewish people needing to embrace
    Their messiah.
    As far as my theological debate, thank you for allowing to express my belief and/or opinion. I don’t know who reads it but maybe just maybe it will cause them to think about it. I know especially on your blog I stand alone on
    The matters discussed, but that’s okay. Sometimes we have too.
    I’m know you understand about standing alone at times.
    Thank you my brother

    1. Dear Todd.

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      You wrote:

      I agree with Michelle.

      My reply:

      So do I. Every Evangelical Friend of Isael must share the gospel with Jews. Failing to do so, is a sin against the Messiah who called us to be His witnesses.

  5. He wait’s for his children to except him as theirs,until they do the world and Israel will dwell in the darkness’only if we believe that Jesus is the Messiah shall we live in the glory of his eternal light

  6. THE MARK OF THE JEWISH BEAST

    Upon their arrival in Israel Jew from all over the world receive automatic Israeli citizenship due to the Law of Return since they are considered Jews, a religious denomination valid only because of hereditary reasons. In practice, their beliefs are irrelevant, such subtleties insignificant to the Ministry of Interior. Their beliefs about race are clearly visible on Jewish identity cards. It is based on their records, which Jews can not change. All identity cards have a field that can be translated into English as “Ethnic Group.” The old Pharisaic tradition states that in Judaism’s case, the ethnic group and the religion over lapses. Therefore it is meaningless for a Jew to change their religion. This convention obliges every citizen recognized as a Jew to be circumcised – a form of mutilation generally despised when applied to women from other cultures, but acceptable under Jewish tradition. Without being asked, anyone born Jewish must marry in a synagogue, if they wish their marriage to be recognized by the state, and must be buried in a Jewish cemetery.

    Following a huge public debate the country for the last time, the explicit statement of ethnicity was removed from any new identity card, but the records were still kept by the ministry that chose a person’s religion according to their files about the person’s ancestors. The official viewpoint of the minister was that the issue of ethnicity on the cards was irrevelent due to the monitoring of records. These records were kept not only within the ministry, BUT WERE ENCODED IN THE DOCUMENT’S NUMBER AS WELL. As in Nazi Germany, document numbers acted like a tattoo on ones arm. The cards stated that they were Jews, and since they were immigrants, their numbers began with ONE (1), while regular Israelis have a number beginning with TWO (2), and more often than not with a THREE (3) or FOUR (4) following it. My card number was 12166674. Moreover, in another field, it is explicitly stated that they were born outside the country. The duplicity of the information encoded in the numbers ensures that institutions with access to numbers of immigrants would be aware of their faults. On the faculty board at universities, whenever the secretary published exan results the grade appeared next to the corresponding identification number, a process adopted to promise false anonymity. My number shone like a new sun in the sky. Israeli Arabs studying in a university can have their grades easily detected by an identity number beginning with a FOUR (4), while a THREE (3) denotes students belonging to the Russian immigration from the early nineties.

    Making identifying details on individuals is a characteristic that Israel shared with regimes from t5he first half of the twentieth century in Europe. Once in Israel, the surviving Jews adopted the system in a more sophisticated, less evident way. The victims had become persecutors using the same type of ethnic discrimination used against them during the Nazi Regime. Since the citizen’s religion in Israel determined his debts towards and rights from the state, it was a very serious issue. The abusiveness of the system became more evident each time one experienced inequity.

    A Druze could choose not to enter the army; an Arab was automatically exempted unless he was a Bedouin; an ultra-Orthodox Jew could choose according to his will; and a secular Jew was obliged to go to the army. His conscience was irrelevant to the issue.

    One could change the Ethnic Group field in their document and then they could marry in whichever temple they choose. That is right from a technical standpoint, but the process would take years of painful arguments with the ministry and in the end, their document number would still identity them according to an unjust system and yet they couldn’t marry in a civil ceremony.

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