Watch the uniq “bone covenant theology” being launched on 13th of October 2014. The International Christian Embassy of Jerusalem (ICEJ) let Bishop John Francis of London preach a set of unbiblical Word of Faith doctrines.
The Bishop also presented his New Age understanding of Ezekiel 37, and a new bone covenant theology.
I am always amazed by New Ager preachers like Bishop John, who can command the forces of darkness by just giving some big talks. The gathered supporters of ICEJ in Jerusalem just have to command the Hamas to surrender. We are told we just have to vizualize the demon, and speak a New World Order into existence.
After watching this video, there seems to be a need for urgent change. This embassy needs to be renamed. So they do not continue to defame biblical Christianity. Feel free to use “Hyper Charismatic embassy”.
Published by Ivar
I wish I could have heard all parts and judged, I think you mean new bone covenant not convenient. That said, yes, you’re correct about a source of heresy there. Joseph’s bones were a LAST WISH of Joseph to be buried in the promised land ( interestingly Moses was not allowed ) to his family, not a covenant with God. In fact can find nothing significant about the bones historically except the manner of death.
Much ado has been made that Jesus bled to death or suffocated and none of it is true according to the Bible. According to the Bible, He hung on the cross, willingly poured out His blood as an offering, then He said it is finished ( the sacrifice has been made) and He released His Spirit. Neither of the above is so, His cause of death was because He said so.
Let me know when allow the Kundalini practices like Todd Bently and company.
God bless you Ivar.
Dear godsfingers
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
First. Ezekeiel 37 is very clear. The bones, the graves. You saw the Jews returning home from the Holocaust.
Second: Where is the link between “Covenant” and “bones” found in the Bible? And what about spiritualize the word “bones” into “promises”?
Hi Ivar,
Don’t get me wrong, please. I understand the Ezekiel bones, and Jesus unbroken bones to fulfill prophecy. My question was, more or less, directed at the bishop, in particular, promise and covenant are different things. So I was just supporting you in that this person is creating some new theology.
As a side note, I often find it irritating when some preacher has to shout and to constantly prompt the audience to say Amen, or something supporting. Did it ever occur to the person that the folks are not amening the heresy?
Dear Godsfingers
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
I agree with you. Why do I have to say “prophecy” twice?….Why do I have to say “a shake”. And do I have to say “amen”, when I totally disagree?
To speak things into existence that does not exist, is occultism in the name of “Jesus”. It is a New Age phenomen, used by spritists of different kinds. Its also linked to the “litle Messiah” herecy, which teach that we are all creators and gods.
Get us some solid Biblical teachings about Israel and the Jewish people. The massive shoutings of Bishop John, also underline that the ICEJ has to repent. No more screaming preachers.
These kind of men just populate Hell by their not Biblical nonsence. And they populate Hell with millions of deceived souls.
Ivar,
You say: “First. Ezekeiel 37 is very clear. The bones, the graves. You saw the Jews returning home from the Holocaust.”
Ah, so now you are telling us that the dead Jews got up out of their graves, and went home. Who is spiritualising what was said now? Is this some new resurrection doctrine you are teaching?
See how easy it is to twist what a person says to make it sound evil?
I don’t necessarily agree with all that guy’s ideas. but what he said about none of Christ’s bones being broken was a fulfilment of prophecy, which could also be called a promise. Yet you twist it to make it sound as if he was preaching something that hasn’t been accepted dogma for centuries, and which can be proved by scripture.
You also criticized him for speaking forth the word of God with authority. Tell me what’s wrong with him speaking these following words:
“I say to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and cast into the sea.”
Does that sound like a word that has too much faith for you?
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
Your message is full of garbage. Rubbish. You defame the Jewish people, and all Biblical teachers who link the Bones of Ezekiel 37 to the Holocaust survivours.
When the allied forces discovered “the boney remains of Jews” inside the Conzentration camps in Germay and Poland, they thought these Jews were dead. But up from this grave, people rose. It was a miracle. No person would even stand on his feet, with bones not covered with flesh. But God of Israel did it, just as the Prophetic word explains.
If you are going to continue to write messages in the same spirit, and with the same pattern, please find your self another website, to spread this kind of evils.
No Ivar. Only dead people are in graves. You just choose to interpret Ezekiel’s prophecy to mean what you say it means. But try reading the prophecy and you will see it speaks of people who are really dead, not the half dead survivors in the concentration camps.
So instead of trying to bully me with your ungodly accusations. Try answering my legitimate questions. Or have I offended you again by questioning your infallibility?
Dear Phil.
I do a last try:
Ezekiel 37:11.
Then he said to me: “Son of man, these bones are the people of Israel. They say, ‘Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.’
(end)
God explains the prophecy to Ezekiel. It is, the People of Israel.
12 Therefore prophesy and say to them: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: My people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel.
(end).
With you interpretation of scriptures, the Jews who came home to Israel in 1948, was dead. Did they really die, woke up from the dead, and travelled by boat back home to Haifa?
I make mistakes, but I will not tollerate your sarcastic defamation of the Holocaust survivours. And make no mistake: If I see no change, your next message will be spammed.
Stop trying to bully me with your threats. If you can’t answer my questions in a civil manor, you need prayer.
But first of all prove to me that Ezekiel’s prophecy is about the Jews coming back from the holocaust, and not from their graves everywhere they were scattered during the entire diaspora. Where in the prophecy does it say “this is only those who died in the holocaust? I see it says it is the WHOLE HOUSE OF ISRAEL.
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom.
Since I am the editor, I will spam anyone who distriute antisemitism. In this case, defameing the Holocaust survivours.
Next: The whole history of the Jewish people do not have to be given in a vision to Ezekiel. But the propecy should be easily understandable to all cultures, who honor history, and avoid being decived by those who falsify history.
There are a lot of testimonies, from the conzentration camps. About allied officers, who saw what they were 100 per cent sure of were corpses. And suddenly there was life in them, life in people left without skinn on their bones, rose from the massgraves.
Do you need any better proff for the fulfilment of Ezekiel 37?
Ivar, You said:
“Since I am the editor, I will spam anyone who distributes anti-Semitism. In this case, defaming the Holocaust survivors.”
You haven’t, even in the smallest way ever seen me distribute anti-Semitism, or defame Holocaust survivors. And you know it !
Your accusations are perverse, and intended only to cover your disgusting attack on the body of Jesus Christ, which I have exposed.
You seem to think that God cares less about his own children than he does about those who reject him. When a Jew wrote anti-Christ posts on this blog some time ago, you said we should speak softly to him. Even though he was a Pharisee, the likes of whom which Christ rebuked.
But do you speak softly to Christians whose theology you disagree with? Do you gently try to persuade them of what you think is the correct way? No! You go at them with the teeth of a snarling dog.
And when I challenge your disgustingly ungodly attacks on them, you use threats to try to bully me, and refuse to justify your attacks with scripture.
So go ahead and spam me, you hypocrite. I will keep speaking the truth, whether you like it or not!
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
I will just keep your last comment for some time, so people will come to know why there are no more comment from your pen on this site, til I see your willingness to debate and reason.
You message just convinces me that true Christians need to keep on warning against the Charismatic pentecostal moverment, and keep on exposing their use of false prophets and New Age heretics.
There is a spirit at work. The ecumenical movement must find ways to create common ground.
The prophecy concerning bones not being broken concern the Lord. There were two others crucified with him. They had their legs broken in order to hasten death, the Lord had already given up his spirit. They pierced his side and what came out was water and blood. If he had been alive this would have been blood.
The move to bring all religion together is on.
Dear Alistair
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
The bones of Jesus was not broken, so that one particular prophecy would be fulfilled. So that people who knew the Scriptures could see that the man who died on the cross, was the Messiah. if the Prophetic Word has stated that the left knee, or whatever, would be cut off, it would have been.
Jesus is the fullfilment of all prohecies, related to the comming of the Messiah. To add to scriptures with certain “super-revelations” is wickedness.
The kind of doubious Bible practices, are not unknown to the leadership of the ICEJ. When I confronted the former excetutive director with anouther “super revelation”, He god angry on me. And told me to be in submission. The topic was his “vision” of the Egyptians finding special favours inside the Messianic age, for protecting Jesus during his family’s exile in Egypt. There is not a single line in the Bible about this, and this kind of messages is surely adding to the cross. There is no special favour’s ahed, for any pagan, as long as he reject Yeshua the Messiah.
you tell’em ivar! shalom and blessings in the name of our Lord, Jesus Christ. there is something to creating our situations with our mouths. the bible says out of the mouth come all the issues of life. that be either good or bad. that is why the devil has hijacked this teaching with new age witchcraft, just like he has introduced barking dogs and hippie dancing shaking head “prophetess” mistress of todd bently. it is because the devil is terrified of a christian who finds the truth of the gifts of the Holy Spirit and uses them TO EDIFY THE BODY rather than to try and get goodies for himself.
Dear John.
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
I agree. If I say “Jesus is alive”, I confirm something with my month. There is life is such a statement. I can also use my mouth to curse my self and others.
But what the Word of Faith movement claim they are doing, is to speach into existense somthing that do not exist. Like claiming victory, when there is an obvious defeat. It can make a man feel good for some time, but it do not change the reality.
If Israel should live according to such principles, the Jewish nation should have scraped the IDF, and belived in vicory by speaking into existence the dissolvment of the Hamas.
Ivar,
You said: “But what the Word of Faith movement claim they are doing, is to speak into existence something that dose not exist.”
Can you tell me. Did the extra bread and fish that Christ fed the multitude with already exist. Or did he speak them into existence?
And didn’t Jesus say “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father.”?
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You with so great faith. Today, go to the nearast hospital, and command the corpses in the body bags to rise. Be sure to take some pictures, and send me some copies.
Ah. So you don’t believe what Jesus said!
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You asked:
Can you tell me. Did the extra bread and fish that Christ fed the multitude with already exist. Or did he speak them into existence?
My reply:
God spoke, and God created. Now you go to the bakery, and multiply. Please take pictures, and do not forget to send me copies.
Oh, I will be the first to admit my faith is weaker than it should be. But at least I admit the fault is with me. I certainly wouldn’t criticize someone for believing God, and trying to do what he says we can do in his name. Because then I would be guilty of preaching against the word of God!
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You wrote:
Oh, I will be the first to admit my faith is weaker than it should be. But at least I admit the fault is with me.
My comment:
Your faith in Him should be rock solid. He can do. It Is He who perform. Please, do not have any faith in your own faith. That is the problem with the Word of Faith movement. They teach that WE need to have enough faith, in OUR own faith…That kind of attitude will one day traumatize a believer.