Take a fresh look at Ezekiel 38 and 39. We might be in the advanced stages of the Prophetic end game, much closer to the rise of Antichrist than many have been told. This prophecy is regarding the mountains of Israel, and the local coastal area.
Ezekiel 39: 1-4
The Lord punish Gog
‘Son of man, prophesy against Gog and say: “This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you, Gog, chief prince of Meshek and Tubal. I will turn you around and drag you along. I will bring you from the far north and send you against the mountains of Israel. Then I will strike your bow from your left hand and make your arrows drop from your right hand. On the mountains of Israel you will fall, you and all your troops and the nations with you. I will give you as food to all kinds of carrion birds and to the wild animals.
It looks like “Gog” is already installed on the mountains of Israel. It’s the PLO (or al-Fatah). Gog was airlifted up on Israel’s mountains, aided by the beast from the north. “Norway”. It was the Norwegian Institute of International Affairs (NUPI) and FAFO (The research department of the Norwegian labor party controlled workers union) who masterminded the plan of giving the PLO a base on the mountains of Israel. The trap was called “The Oslo Accords”. The land in the north (Nor-wegen), or Norway, has since 1969 been completely de-Christianized. Many Norwegians have walked back to their pagan Norse idols. Just take a look at the map of the North Sea oil fields, and you will see how Odin, Thor, Balder and Frey have been hailed and honored. Through the Norwegian state Petroleum Fund, the Norwegian Government finance the PLO and Islamic terrorism against Israel.
Gog (PLO) has also been given a seat at the UN, and is now supported by 191 nations. In practical terms: All nations. Gog has strong political support in the “Quartet”, which is led by the Papal knight, Mr. Tony Blair. The major veto-powers are represented in “The Quartet”. Also Russia and China.
Ezekiel
Chapter 39: 6: I will send fire on Magog and on those who live in safety in the coastlands, and they will know that I am the Lord.
Magog is located on the coast. It is the power that now controls Gaza. Hamas is the extended arm of Iran or Persia. Now, today, we see that Gog (PLO and Norway) and Magog (Hamas and Iran) move into unity. The have started to fight for the Islamic revolution of 1979, to secure its the future in Iraq. Their common enemy is ISIL. They all struggle to see the dismiss of the Jewish state. The global army against Zion is being built right. Millions of Christians are deceived into this Satanic game.
There are many reasons why Christians are falling away. One of the reasons, are that many Christian assemblies do not permit lessons by prophets and apostles. Many Christians are unfortunately no longer active in Christian congregations. They quickly becomes freinds of the “world”. Their claimed Christian faith has been reduced to a part time hobby, or less.
Written by Ivar
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Christians need to get in the word, pray without ceasing and stand against the enemies of Israel. the apostasy is here , big time. Reading Amos 1:8 and all thru scripture G-d warns of Destroying Islam which HE sent for those in disobedience. and says , those against Israel do NOT have HIS spirit. the road to hell is wide..the narrow road many do not find and some who claim to be christians have fallen off the narrow road and became twice the sons of hell. that is what G-d says..they will not enter the kingdom. they need to really go to the book where JOHN the Revelator says, I wish you to be hot or cold, but since you are luke warm I will vomit you out of my mouth. a friend of the world is a enemy of G-d..the pastors who do not teach the truth, G-d says they will have double punishment. He is going to destroy all who rejict HIM , HE is G-d and says there IS not other.. HOPE fully they will throw out their churches new bibles and realize the only authority on earth IS G-d..Yeshua is G-d …and those who refuse the truth will be rejicted in that day.. and that day is sooner than we even think. Soon the time of the gentiles will be over and HIS EYES will go back to Israel , open their eyes to Messiah, and that is already happening Praise G-d..I pray the church will read Romans nine, ten and eleven. Salvation came thru the Jews we owe them a debt and they have protected the scripture and becase G-d blinded the Jews for us heathen so we can become sons of G-d. they have blessed the whole world..they are MY HEART forever. the Islamic and G-d haters are trying to destroy Israel because they think it would mean that G-d doesn’t exist.. Today is the DAY of Salvation, we know that anyone who changes even a dot or title of HIS Word is cursed..same with those who do not suport Israel, pray for Her and suport HER . as those who do love HER is grafted in, tose who don’t are not..NO ONE will have an excuse.. many cults think they are the vicar of Christ or the authority of the bible to change whatever they want..NOT so..G-d said it is better to believe G-d than man, Shalom
Also, Yeshua left the Cross and accended into heaveb so HE could leave HIS HOLY SPIRIT HER and those who Believe in HIM and HIS Word Have HIS Spirit and HE will lead us into ALL TRUTH..we can G0 to the Throne Room and ask G-d to forgive us for sins and it is thru none other than Yeshua as HE IS the way the truth and the life and no one comes thru the FATHER than thru HIM…
Hi Ivar
You said:
“Magog is located on the coast. It is the power that now controls Gaza. Hamas is the extended arm of Iran or Persia. Now, today, we see that Gog (PLO and Norway) and Magog (Hamas and Iran) move into unity. The have started to fight for the Islamic revolution of 1979, to secure its the future in Iraq. Their common enemy is ISIL. They all struggle to see the dismiss of the Jewish state. The global army against Zion is being built right. Millions of Christians are deceived into this Satanic game.”
What scripture says:
Ezekiel 38 “14Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it? 15And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army: 16And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
My comment:
Scripture doesn’t point to the PLO as being Gog. The PLO doesn’t come from “the north parts”. And if you want to call Norway Gog, you will need to show us where they have hidden their “great company” and “mighty army”.
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
Its always interesting to debate with people who interpretate the Bible literally, always.
Yea. I would like to see the Russians comming riding on horses….Do you have some for them?
Where did I mention anything about horses? And your comment below seems to indicate that you believe Gog comes from Russia.
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You wrote:
The PLO doesn’t come from “the north parts”.
My comment:
Even with my limited knowledge in geography, I am aware that Ramallah is located about 12 kilometer north of Jerusalem. That is how fare “the army” has reached. There is a solid fence who keep the intifada north of the city of David. Still the enemy has dug in, deep inside ancient Samaria. Norway, who are PLO’s main sponsor and co-workers, is located some 3.500 kilometers north of Jerusalem.
“The might army”, seems to be of more soldiers than the Norwegians can mobilize. Since Norway has been a part of NATO since its foundation in 1949, the present anti-Zionist army seems to have been enlarged. At this army is growing by the day.
You might not be aware about the Kingdom of Rus? It was a kingdom inside todays Russia, founded by Norwegian vikings. They all worshiped the pagan “gods” of Odin and Thor.
Ivar,
I accept that English isn’t your best language for understanding, but I am sure you can find a Bible in your first language, that will confirm what I am saying.
Ezekiel 39:2 “and I will turn you around, drive you on, take you up from “”the remotest parts of the north”” and bring you against the mountains of Israel.” (end quote)
If God is bringing them from the “remotest north” against the mountains of Israel, they obviously don’t already live in the region, as do the PLO. And that mob of gangsters never came from north of Israel. They are Arabs, and Arabs come for Arabia. Which is east of Jerusalem, unless you’re using that dodgy medieval map again 🙂
With regard to your comment concerning Rus. I am inclined to agree with you. (although, the Russian don’t) I believe the Norsemen/ Vikings/ Danes, to be descendants of the tribe of Dan. And their part in prophesy has a connection with Gog. But that also contradicts your idea about the PLO being Gog!
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
I do know enough english, to understand the word “horses”. It is an animal, and you can ride on it.
Since you are in the camp of the literal understanding of the Bible, only, you need to explain to all of us about the horses. Or you might have to find a more modern way to twist the Word of God, to make it fit into your doctrines:
” and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army”.
Please help us, and bring some fresh light to this verse!….
Ivar, You are using deceptive tactics in your attempt to bully me. It won’t work! As I already pointed out above. I made no mention of horses.
But if you insist on bringing this red-herring into the debate, I will answer by saying there are already modern-day army vehicles that have old time names. For instance: the IDF Battle Tank is called the Markavar, which is Hebrew for chariot. So it is quite possible that one day there will be a military vehicle called a horse!
Dear Philp Mayo.
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You wrote:
Ivar, You are using deceptive tactics in your attempt to bully me. It won’t work! As I already pointed out above. I made no mention of horses.
My comment:
I do not try to bully you. I just wanted to know what you thought about those horses. Now I see that you interpretate that those animals, might not be animals at all. May be Ezeikel saw something that might be a modern weapon, that he with great difficulties, could be able to fully understand. Interesting. May be a lot of tanks. What about helicopters or aircrafts?
Revelation 9:9
“And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.”
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
Lets have a deeper lesson in English, to make this plain language to all who read this. Word by word:
Ezekiel 39:2
First lines: “and I will turn you around”….There is someone God (the correct understanding of -I-) will call to the mountain of Zion. They are on the way in one direction, and are now on the way towards Jerusalem.
second: “drive you on…”. It is a movement that will gain momentum.
Third: “take you up from “”the remotest parts of the north””. “Up”, from the deep, the abyss, I presume. These powers are comming from some godforsaken places “north” of Jeusalem.
Forth: “and bring you against the mountains of Israel.”. God will bring, I presume. Like Nebukanessar. Against the Jews living in Judah and Samaria.
(end of English lesson).
Next, a lesson in history and Nazi-ideology:
The PLO did not surface from nothing. Arafat coiped the ideology of the Nazis, and desired to bring an end to what the Nazis could not do. To give us the “final solution” to the Jewish problem. The Nazis looked towards Nor-wegen. That was the place Hitler felt the perfect arians lived, the tall, white, blueyed Norwegians. Hitler hailed the Vikings, and tried to copy them. “Lebensbarn” was produced just outside of Oslo. The Norwegian nazi-Puppet Qusling had Viking-symbols in this logo’s and bannars. He hailed the Viking culture (norse pagan gods, etc).
It is God of the Bible who calls (drag) his ancient enemies to the Mounains of Zion. There they will face Him.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Hi Ivar,
You are wrong. And I will be happy to correct you 🙂
It’s quite simple… Arabs come from Arabia which is EAST of Jerusalem. Gog comes from the NORTH. And because this northerner called Gog is the leader of the attack mentioned in Ezekiel’s prophesy, the Arabs from the east, that currently occupy the mountains of Judah can’t be him (Gog). Otherwise we would have to turn the world on its side to make east into north. But you already tried that using your mappa mundi.
And bye the way. Hitler and his mates seemed to think Aryans where Indo-Europeans that originated in Iran.
Dear Phil Mayo.
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
Do Ezekiel mention Arabs?
Is people in Lebanon Arabs? By default, north of Jerusalem?
PLO had its first proper base in Beirut. From 1974 onwards. In which direction from Jerusalem is this city?
Hi Ivar,
If you torture the facts long enough they will tell you anything!
The PLO didn’t have their first proper base in Beirut. They went there after being kicked out of Israel where they were originally based.
Yes, many people in Lebanon are Arabs. But Arabs are of Arabian origin. They came there during the Islamic conquests. The original inhabitants were Canaanite and Tyreens etc. God tends to refer to indigenous people in prophecy, or at least those who lived there at the time the prophecy was given around 2500 years ago.
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
So this returns back to the fact, that Ezekiel speaks about a force, that will gain momentum, and that has its origin in the “farest north”.
Americanized Chrisianity like to portray this place as Russia. Still Russia did not exist when Ezekiel recived this relevation.
Back to politics, to put this into a relevant modern context: Today, Putin is a torn in the eye of Washington. If it had not been for Putin, ISIL would have ruled in Damascus today. A city taken by the devilish Islamic forces, with weapons given to them by Pentagon.
Ivar,
you said…
“Americanized Christianity like to portray this place as Russia. Still Russia did not exist when Ezekiel received this revelation.”
My reply:
Israel didn’t exist at the time of Ezekiel’s prophecy in the way it does today either. It had been scattered by the Assyrians. And Judah was captive in Babylon. So your point is mute.
There’s nothing in your last post that we strongly disagree over, except perhaps for the nature of Gog/Magog. You seem to think of them as a spiritual force. I agree in part! But Magog also refers to the descendants of the son of Japheth (1Chronicles 1:5). And they are not Gazans.
Gazans ancient origins are more likely to be a mixture of Canaanite, Egyptian, Arab and Philistine. And they don’t come from the North either!
As I have said in the past… Biblical clues have a precise meaning, otherwise God would be giving us useless information to follow. Your allegorical approach to scripture allows you to name Putin’s pet Aardvark as Gog 🙂
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
The Philistin’s do not exist today. The Bible says this wicked people were totally destoyed. So the people who live in Gaza today, have a different origin.
A lot of the terrorists in the Hamas are from Iran. They are Persians. Through the tunnels from Egypt, every Islamic jihadists under the sun, have been welcomed since 2006. In the brief Muslim Brotherhood rule in Cairo, the gates from Egypt into Gaza was wide open. There are also white skinned Jihadists from Norway and Germany in Gaza today. Some of them claim to be doctors, like Mr. Mads Gilbert from Oslo. Others roam around with press-cards around their neck.
In conclusion: We need to use both comon sense and deeper knowledge about Islam, to be able to imply the Prophetic Word correctly. There is enough of “hobby-prophets” around.
Ivar,
You said… “The Philistines do not exist today”.
Oh really! And where do you get that idea from? If you are taking it from the fact that Samson killed a lot of them in Gaza, you are missing the fact that Philistines didn’t originate there. They were invaders. Which means that, just like you Vikings, they left behind family in their place of origin, which some historians believe to have been Crete. But that’s not North of Jerusalem either! Neither is Iran! Neither is Cairo! And neither is Germany!
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
My goodness. Lets go to Crete and search…and the vikings…Where did you find them?
regardless of whether norway is gog or magog, we ARE very, very close to the revealing of the antichrist. these things will become clearer as we go forward toward the end. therefore, we need to share the forgiveness of Jesus Christ with all whom we meet. let us pray for the lost that the Lord will do a mighty work through us in these last days.
Dear john daugherty
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
The enemy of the God of Israel is not found in blood and flesh. He is fighting Satan, and prinsipalities of darkness. Gog, is by Ezekiel expllained to be forces that manifest it self, with its origion in “the farest north”.
The Baylonian pricipality of darkness shall gain momentum, and become a global force. This force will be be draged into the mountains of Zion.
The particular side of Norway is, that this thiny nation has taken a leading role in the fight against Zion:
1. The Norne pagan “gods” are warrior gods. There has never been a more rutless forces in Europe, ever.
2. The Norne head of “gods”, Odin, might have its origin at the Black Sea basin. The most known Norwegian Viking age historian Snorre claims so.
3. The Nazis held the Norse “gods” in high esteem.
4. Norway is the nation that created the PLO base in Ramallah. It was a new entry for the “exiled” PLO from Tunis, after the failure of Beirut in 1981.
5. Norway found oil in 1969. The nation returned to the worship of the old Norse “gods”, who have surfacned in the North Sea basin.
6. Norway has a Petroleum found, of 700 billion USD in cash. Norway demand a unity goverment of PLO and Hamas to rebuild Gaza.
7. Norway and Qatar (and Iran) will be the major financers of the continued terror-regimes both in Gaza and on the “Westbank”.
Can there be a better intepretation of Gog?
We can find more info about who Gog is,read some Josephus.
Dear Vert12
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
Titus Flavius Josephus was not a prophet of God, nor a Messianic believer. Still we can learn a lot from him. But he is a historian, basing his knowledge on Romanism.
One thing for sure is..never in histroy have we seen ALL nations on Israel’s border. G-d said, HE would draw them their and when they try to attack, HE WILL destroy all but a sixth of them. the Jews are and will always be the apple of HIS EYE..and HIS name will be there forever…In the meantime all the nations think they have Israel where they want HER. old Kerry will be going there this week to have them sign the seven yr peace treatie. we are at the beginning of the tribulation. and because the US is giving weapons and money, they are a part of ALL Nations going against Israel. Remember G-d said: when Israel becomes a nation that we are the people alive and standing that will see HIM COME. HE is coming and to destry all nation who are against HER. and becasue many would not believe the truth, that G-d would send a lie and they would believe it.. so many have fallen for unity instead of the powerful Gospel and if anyone preaches another gospel , from such turn away…we see they won’t follow G-ds warning and will be lost. The riven in Iraz runs to Turkey, and Isis calls Iraq their nation. Islam is Islam…the demonic angels have been let out of the river , and I would see that Iraq will still be completly destryed as it is written.. G-d is clear..and I pray that their is only ONE Gospel, and no other will work ever…and only one CHURCH which is us people who love G-d the Christ and stand with our family the Jews…it was not Hitler who started the hate, it was Satan in Genesis who did not want Messiah to come..