Being a Christian means belonging to the Church, Pope affirms.
In his general audience address Pope Francis drew attention to how God formed the Church to unify humanity, emphasizing that no one is saved on their own, but rather through the help of others. “Our identity is one of belonging.
To say ‘I am Christian’ means to say: ‘I belong to the Church. I belong to this People with whom God established an ancient alliance that is always faithful,’” the Pope explained in his June 25 general audience address.
His address to those gathered in St. Peter’s square continued the reflections he began on the Church last week.
“Dear Brothers and Sisters, in our catechesis on the Church we have seen that God gathered a people to himself in the Old Testament and in the fullness of time sent his Son to establish the Church as the sacrament of unity for all humanity.”
“God wanted to form a people that takes his blessing to all the nations of the Earth,” and he “sets it as a sign and instrument of union of all men with God and each other through Jesus Christ,” the Pope said. Explaining how we are all called to be a part of “this great family,” the Pope drew attention the importance of “belonging to this people.”
“We are not Christians as an individual, each one on his own,” he said. “None of us become Christians on our own,” but rather“we owe our relationship with God to so many others who passed on the faith, who brought us for Baptism, who taught us to pray and showed us the beauty of the Christian life.”
Pope Francis then encouraged those present to give thanks to “our parents and grandparents, our priests, religious and teachers” who helped bring us into the Church.
Source: CNA
My comment:
The Pope has again proclaimed the Roman Catholic replacement of the Jewish people as God’s chosen people.
According to the Papacy a Jew can simply not become an acceptable follower of Jesus is the Messiah, without joining the Roman Catholic Church. He must renounce his Jewishness, the Sabbath and all Jewish festivals.
This is the core basis for despotism, in the name of God and “Christ”.
To the radical opposite: No Christian can belong to the Roman Catholic Church, and by this kind of membership proclaim the ownership to the eterbal citizenship in Heaven.
The only way to became a Christian or a Messianic Jew, is to the accept the Lordship of the Messiah. To surrender to Him, and to be under his protection and guidance.
Westminster Confession of Faith:
VI. There is no other head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ: nor can the Pope of Rome in any sense be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin and son of perdition, that exalteth himself in the Church against Christ, and all that is called God.
By this kind of statements, the Pope proclaim that he is not a Christian, but the head of a religious movement. By nature, as Satanic as all other religious movements. Nevertheless, what makes the Papacy special is his claim to supremacy over all followers of Jesus. That makes the Pope a perfect candidate for the post as the antichrist, the last man of lawlessness.
Stay away from this kind of wickedness. If you do not want to face eternity in Hell, run out of the Catholic Church. Than go down on your knees and beg Jesus the Messiah for mercy.
Written by Ivar
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“With such violence
the great city of Babylon will be thrown down,
…………
By your magic spell all the nations were led astray.
In her was found the blood of prophets and of God’s holy people, of all who have been slaughtered on the earth.”
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The Pope is not the AntiChrist. It would be too obvious.
Dear †disciple†
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
Soemtime we just need to accept what is obvious.
Amen. Christ has given us eyes to see…
Dear †disciple†
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
Why refuse what is too obvious?
The Roman Catholic Church control 1,1 billion souls. That is a lot of fuel for the hellfire. Another 1,4 billion are Muslims. All of them decived by a desert demon. 1,4 billions are Chinese, 1,2 billions are Indians. A total of 5,1 billion people ready to accept the supremacy of the Pope, as long as he brings “peace”.
Good points. The possibility is very real. However, too early in the game to lean on my understanding. I am not Catholic nor do I stand in agreement with the Vatican.
Good day there all believers in Messiah!
No the pope is part of the false prophet odyssey!
As the roman chatholic church started and build up islam, they are together the false prophet…the pope has no choice but to stand with islam!
I agree. Cardinal Imbroglio is befitting the End-Times False Prophet. (He is an antichrist, not the Antichrist). He is the false religious leader who has the political clout to bring religions “together”. (The Antichrist may have a spiritual background but he will likely be a political leader). Note the chaos now left in his infallible wake after his recent trip to Jerusalem, in which he gave Islam in general, and the PLA specifically, global “credibility”.
He places himself in the Lord`s place, that makes him, by the definition of the word, an AntiChrist.
Read carefully Rev 13. There are 2 antichrists roles, beast no. 1 and 2. One is son of perdition aka in place of/fake Christ ond other is false prophet. One is politician, one is religious leader. One Exalt himself above all called god, one comfirmes with laying wonders that he is.
and, one is Israeli and one not.
LORD bless thee Bro
Probably holding the office of beast no.2. Beast no.1 will be probably some politican, maybe from israel. (one is from israel, one from gentiles)
The Prophecies of God have been fulfilled and the remaining ones WILL be fulfilled. They are not maybes, perhaps or probably`s. If you trust what the scriptures say, you shouldn`t be speculating on who is who is not.
The Bible says the Antichrist is a king, not a politician. There is a major difference between the two, not least of which is an hereditary blood line. The beast described in Revelation 13:2 as having the body of a leopard, mouth of a lion, and feet of a bear is a direct reference to the heraldic achievement of a prince who is alive and known to us all today.
Read my book if you want to know the truth.
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
There was not many Presidents around, it the times Jesus walked the Earth in flesh. Nor was there a Pope. The “King” is a representastive of a kingdom, an area which the King control.
The largest Kingdom in the World, is the Vatican Kingdom. It has 160.000 priests placed around in every city in the World. And 180 nations have sent their Ambassadors to the corts of the Pope.
The “king” in the Vatican claim to be infallible, a “god” and a man above the Law. He also claim to be the replacement of “Christ” on the face of the Earth.
Can there ever be a better candicate for the “king”, a global man of lawlessnes, the last and final antichrist?
Ivar,
your reply is based on your allegorical interpretation of prophecy, rather like your interpretation of who are the Two Witnesses, which I showed to be wrong. Using allegory you can make your dog (if you have one) fit the bill. I prefer to use a tighter application of scripture.
The Pope doesn’t in anyway fit the description of Revelation 13:2.
And your assertion that there were not many Presidents around back then; in support of your dismissal of my claim that he will be a king, not a politician, exposes you lack of historical knowledge. Politicians operated in Greek and Roman society long before, and throughout the time of Christ. The giver of prophecy knows the difference!
You said ” Can there ever be a better candidate for the “king”, a global man of lawlessness, the last and final antichrist?”
My answer is yes. He is the candidate who fits the clues given in scripture. Of whom I have written in my book. He is not the Pope!
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
I do not have a dog. But I do have a Bible, and I have read it and belive every word.
You wrote:
The Pope doesn’t in anyway fit the description of Revelation 13:2.
My reply:
Revelation 13:2
The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority.
(end of scripture)
I know you do not belive in “allegorical interpretation of prophecy”, but. If we shall take what is written her litterally, we seems to be in need of some kind of interpreation. If not, we need to go to the zoo and look for a leopard, a bear and a lion. Non of them will be fitting into, neither the chair of a President, nor inside the dining room of a king.
I do undertand that Jesus is not a litteral lamb, neiter is He a physical lion. Still I am able to understand the message about the Lion and the Lamb.
You might have some phantom prophecies in your book. But I will remain within mainstream Reformed Christianity, who clearly have belled the Pope as an antichrist. Regardsless of what kind of messages you claim you have recived from heaven.
No Ivar, I don’t claim to have received any special messages or prophecy from heaven. I rely on those given in the Bible, and on the Holy Spirit to reveal their meaning.
You seem to rely on the old and mistaken interpretations of the past. Didn’t you read what the angel told Daniel? That the prophecy is sealed until the time of the end. Luther, and all your other heroes who belled the Pope as the Antichrist, were dealing with a sealed prophecy. They didn’t have a clue. And neither will you, if you rely on them, or on medieval maps drawn by men who thought the world was flat 🙂
But maybe I am being a little harsh. Maybe you actually can tell me how Revelation 13:2 is pointing to the Pope.
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You asked:
But maybe I am being a little harsh. Maybe you actually can tell me how Revelation 13:2 is pointing to the Pope.
My reply:
If you look for a leopard, who also have some body parts taken from a bear and a lion, you simply get -the Pope.
In dim light, this is difficult to detect. But: If you get the chance to remove the clotes of the Pontiff, you will see….!!..
Ah! And there was me thinking he had cloven feet, horns and a pointy tail 🙂
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
A 100 per cent litteral interpretation of the Bible, will leave many of us puzzled. Like a lion soon landing in Jerusalem.
I understand the major qualites of a lion. Strong, brave and capable of protecting its own family. A lion is also a fearful hunter. Those who come in its way, will not survive the short battle.
Ivar,
All of the Bible’s prophetic visions have meaning that leads us to an understanding of what, or about whom God is speaking. They are visual clues!
But clues must have a definite and unique meaning, and they must have a discernible connection to the subject, otherwise there would be no way of knowing what was meant by them.
In the book of Daniel we have examples of visions which we know the meaning, because God and history interpreted them for us. And we can see from those interpretations that the clues given were visual symbols that in some way described the people and kingdoms about which God was speaking.
So they are examples of how to interpret prophecies like Revelation 13:2. That beast must in some way describe the Antichrist that is unique to him and can be understood by us. Obviously he won’t have the mouth of a lion, body of a leopard or feet of a bear. But we are told he is a king, and kings have coats of arms, and coats of arms do!
Dear Phil Mayo.
Shalom, and love in Jeuss.
The Pope is a/the high priest of Catholicism. The highest religious aythority on the face of the Earth, according to Rome. But the Pope is also a king, the claimed “Holy see”. The king in the Vatican is the head of a state. With an army (a guard), with a court, (with jugdes), the untouchable statehood, and with 180 ambassadors comming to its court. All Roman Catholic born kings and presidents, on the face of the Earth, come and bow before the King in the Vaican, and kiss his ring. They accept hin authroity, and bow in sumbmission. Also Muslim leaders do this, like the late PLO-leader Yasser Arafat. In their hundreds, protestant poastors and political leaders do the same. They accept the Pope as the “king of kings”. They kiss the the golden ring on the Popes finger, a ring with a symbol of claimed to be Peter the Apostle. And in this way they all accept total fraud, and a faisification of World and Church history.
The only thing the Pope do not claim to be, is a prophet. Becasue Rome feels all prophecies, ceases to exist in the Apostolic age. So not claiming to be a prophet, all who claim the Pope is a “false prophet”, do the Pope a favour. Blurring the Popes role as an antichrist.
Please read this link.
https://ivarfjeld.com/2014/07/30/kissing-an-gold-idol-on-the-ring-of-the-pope/
Well I read what you said Ivar, and it doesn’t in any way explain how the Pope fits Revelation 13:2. If he can’t fit that description, he can’t be the Antichrist.
But I did notice the change in your words. You called him ‘AN’ Antichrist in your last post. And that’s very different from ‘THE’ Antichrist, now isn’t it. And that is what you have been claiming until now.
I never said he wasn’t ‘an’ Antichrist. But there can only be one man of sin, son of perdition, beast, ‘The Antichrist’. And although he may be the head of a church, he isn’t a Pope.
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
There is not only a diffence in semantics, the use of words. Like the use of AN or THE antichrist.
There is also a theological differense.
If THE antichrist has been revelaled, the rapture did not take place in advance. The pre-trib doctrine is wrong, and the true Church is left behind. All Christians will have to take a stand against the wickeness of Rome, or compromise.
The Pope it both AN and THE Antichrist. It is possible that the present Pope, also is the LAST antichrist. The One World Government will agree to make the last Pope, the religious leader of their system. The Holy see already has a seat in the UN, and in a dozen multilateral global organizations and institutions.
The followers of Muhammed claim they represent THE great prophet. No need to search for the false prophet, who presently has 1,4 billion followers.
Hi Ivar,
The Lord bless you too.
We have to understand the difference between ‘revealing’ and ‘recognizing’.
The revealing of the Antichrist isn’t something that is going to be done by any eschatologist as I understand the meaning of revealing in this context.
2 Thess 2:8-9. “And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders”.
This revealing will be done by Satan, with lying signs and wonders. So it doesn’t exclude the possibility of members of the body of Christ recognizing him for who he is before Satan reveals him to the world, and therefore before the Rapture.
I agree with your assessment of Islam. I too believe the False Prophet will come from it. But I also believe the Roman Catholic Church is the woman who rides the beast. That beast being the antichrist kingdom. Historically, the Catholic church has always ridden on the back of kingdoms from the day it accepted Rome’s patronage.
That made sense! Thank you!
THE DECEPTION OF CHRISTIANITY
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/nazareth.html
HOW CHRISTIANITY WAS INVENTED
http://beyondallreligion.net/christianity/
The Pope, as the head of the Christian Church and religion, made a statement calling Christ a fable and a superstition — a highly provocative quote by Pope Leo X (1513-1521), which was a toast at a Easter Friday banquet in the Vatican in 1514:.
“How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us, and our predecessors.”
The New Testament, in the strictest legal and moral sense, is a forgery; every Gospel and booklet it carries is falsified; and significant passages upon which the fabric of the church and its principal dogmas were founded are fictitious narratives.
Christianity originated and flourished on dishonesty, false pretence, deception, and feigned piety, and in ensuing centuries its leaders industriously engaged in the cover-up of information that exposed the real nature of clergy and their false doctrine.
Church history was knowingly falsified with deliberate fabrication of a whole Christian literature, manipulated to hide the true nature of Christian beginnings; the church concealed the essence of the truth of its origins and matters where self-interest of the priesthood were concerned; and for 1700 years the Christian church has perpetrated a litany of fraud lies and deception
AS FOR THE WRITINGS ATTRIBUTED TO PAUL
New Catholic Encyclopedia
The Encyclopedia Biblica states categorically:
“With respect to the Canonical Pauline Epistles, none of them are by Paul.
They are all, without distinction, pseudographia (false writings). The group (ten epistles) bears obvious marks of a certain unity, of having originated in one circle, at one time, in one environment, but not of unity of authorship” (Encyclopedia Biblica III pg. 3625-26).
Jesus Christ is a religious assumption, a very different story off the history of Christian origins
The Gospels are ‘utopian literature’, an ancient form of unhistorical creative writing that had its model earlier in Plato’s Republic (427-347 BCE).
The Church admits that the Epistles of Paul are forgeries, saying,
“Even the genuine Epistles were greatly interpolated to lend weight to the personal views of their authors”
(Catholic Encyclopedia, Farley ed., vol. vii, p. 645).
Likewise, St Jerome (d. 420) declared that the Acts of the Apostles, the fifth book of the New Testament, was also “falsely written” (“The Letters of Jerome”, Library of the Fathers, Oxford Movement, 1833-45, vol. v, p. 445).
very funny…..
RCC has nothing to do with Jesus. They are like you (unbeliver), but they just making business about Jesus.
Well said. RCC is pagan. Mr Greenwood has described the RCC, nothing more.
Not surprising, since the blasphemous Pontiff has always claimed to take the place of Christ on the earth. When in reality he is just sharing space with Allah, aka, Satan. You know what they say about “birds of a feather?”
The beast no.1. Al Mahdi Barack
Exactly!
The beast no.2. The false “prophet” Francis
(Petrus Romanus is here)
(Books: Petrus Romanus, Exo Vaticana)
Yes, Petrus Romanus is already here:
The pope is the false prophet. AntiChrist will use this false Babylon system to seduce the world. Later AntiChrist will destroy Babylon, when he is the ruler of the 10 kings, the 10 horns:
And the ten horns which thou sawest, and the beast, these shall hate the harlot, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and shall burn her utterly with fire.
For God did put in their hearts to do his mind, and to come to one mind, and to give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God should be accomplished.
Dear Ivar
You said:
According to the Papacy a Jew can simply not become an acceptable follower of Jesus is the Messiah, without joining the Roman Catholic Church. He must renounce his Jewishness, the Sabbath and all Jewish festivals.
My reply:
This is not true.
Google Hebrew Catholic. Go to the website and you will see for yourself the Hebrew Catholics still observe the Sabbath, still keep
Jewish festivals and did not renounce their Jewishness.
And yes they are in full communion with the Bishop of Rome.
Also google Catholics for Israel and you will learn something different than your article above.
Kind Regards
God Bless
Dear Amorrccar
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
After the Vatican II council, the Pope wanted to unite all kinds of religious people under his wings. From Islam, through Judaism to Hindus and Buddhists.
The formation of Israeli Catholics of non-Arab origin is yet another fraud, to fulfill the Vatican II. This small numbers of confused people do not account for more than a few hundreds inside Israel. Most of their claimed 10.000 members are scattered all over the World.
This movement was formed in 1978, by Elias Friedman (1916 – 1999). He was a Carmelite priest, born in South Africa. Not a Jew, but a false proselyte. An Order brother, who works for the Global agenda of the papacy.
This is a small piece of testimony from a Jewish person:
And, I see the Jewishness of it all. For example, the synagogue has an Eternal Light hanging over the Ark where the Torahs are kept; the Catholic Church has a Light lit near the Tabernacle where the “Torah made flesh’ is kept. There is a long table in the synagogue for the Torah; there is an altar for the Eucharist in the Church. There are scripture readings and prayers chanted in the synagogue; the Church has scriptures and prayers read and sung.
When I became a believer in Yeshua at the Messianic Congregation, I did not cease to be Jewish or love Israel.
Dear armorrcc
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You wrote:
Tabernacle where the “Torah made flesh’ is kept. There is a long table in the synagogue for the Torah; there is an altar for the Eucharist in the Church.
My reply:
That physicall “Christ” can be confined to a tabernacle in the “Church”, is an interesting concept of Catholicism. The round wafer held up by the priest, is made into physicall “Jesus”. After being crucified at the alter, the Messiah is locked up inside the Church, waiting for the next Hocus Pocus magic to take place.
I wounder what is will take for a Papist to ever acnowledge the truth, and repent.
Will you ever open your eyes and heart? Or will you rather walk the whole way, into the wide gates of destruction?
The Bible clarly axplain this to be a false Messiah. A Messiah, who the priest claims can be found in “the inner room”.
Matthew 24:26
“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.
(end of scripture).
Repent, or perish. I loved you enough to warn you. If this is your last day on Earth, you need to pay attention to what I have exposed to you.
The Jewish Christians (Catholic) believe the Eucharist is Jesus Body Blood, Soul and Divinity?
The Eucharist, like the Old Passover, participated in the New Passover of Jesus.
You had to eat the Lamb to complete the sacrifice.
Saint Paul in 1 Cor 5:7-8 says : “Christ, our paschal lamb, has been sacrificed. Therefore let us keep the feast!”
The Hebrew Catholics (converted Jews) believe in the real presence of Jesus and the fulfilment of the Old Testament Passover without giving up their Jewishness.
Dear armorrcc
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
Unfortunately, you do not respond to the message.
You wrote:
The Eucharist, like the Old Passover, participated in the New Passover of Jesus. You had to eat the Lamb to complete the sacrifice.
My comment:
This is another falcification of history. The lamb was blodless. It had to hung over night, so that all the blood had left the lamb. It is an abomination and a grave sin to drink blood. It is a satanic ritual.
To even claim that Jesus is brought physically back from Heaven, to be crucified, is truly satanic. To eat his physical flesh and drink his physicall blood is an act of cannibalism in the name of “Christ”.
1. Jesus did not drink the passover blood. It was never drunk. In the cup, there was wine, drunk in remembrance of the passover lamb.
2. Jesus did not cut his finger, and called his student to drink blood. Jesus never drunk blood.
3. The passover in Jerusalem was a rememberence feast of the passover taking place 1.000 years earlier. Today we celebrate the passover lamb, Jesus the Messiah. And the blood He sheed for our sins at Calvarly Hill in Jerusalem.
Dear armorrcc
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
The Pope has decieved you to become a lawless man. A mocker of the truth, a man that defend sin, and bless sin.
Leviticus 17:11
For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life.
Leviticus 17:14
because the life of every creature is its blood. That is why I have said to the Israelites, “You must not eat the blood of any creature, because the life of every creature is its blood; anyone who eats it must be cut off.
@armorrcc: “The Hebrew Catholics (converted Jews) . . .”
Shalom. Your antisemitism is showing. A Jew does not need to “convert” from being a Jew. Once any of us are born again, we become converted sinners – regardless of whether Jew or Gentile. Do you identify someone as a “converted Gentile”?
Please ask King Jesus to help you through His Holy Spirit.
Dear Mordechai
If my words offended you my apologies. I do not know how otherwise to put the sentence. English is not my home language.
I can guarantee you I am not a Jew hater.
The Good News of Jesus Christ and His Church is for all men—Jew and Gentile alike.
May God Bless you.
armorrcc,
Shalom and Toda Rabah (thank you) for your additional information. Apology accepted.
Dear Ivar
I will gladly answer to all above when my first post is resolved.
You have stated this to me in another thread as well and is still unanswered by me because I did not get an answer from a question that I have asked.
Here we have the same scenario.
I have just studied the GENERAL AUDIENCE St. Peter’s Square Wednesday, 25 June 2014 from Pope Francis again.
Not anywhere can I find it was said, and I quote what you said”
” He must renounce his Jewishness, the Sabbath and all Jewish festivals.”
Not one of your replies to me has proof that this is what the Papacy said.
Please guide me to where you have found this in Pope Francis General Audience.
God Bless
Dear armorrcc
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
Just another scripture where God of the Bible instruct us NOT to eat or drink blood. Jesus did not. Nor do we.
Deut: 12:15:16.
Nevertheless, you may slaughter your animals in any of your towns and eat as much of the meat as you want, as if it were gazelle or deer, according to the blessing the Lord your God gives you. Both the ceremonially unclean and the clean may eat it. But you must not eat the blood; pour it out on the ground like water.
Dear armorrcc
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You wrote:
Not anywhere can I find it was said, and I quote what you said”. ” He must renounce his Jewishness, the Sabbath and all Jewish festivals.” Not one of your replies to me has proof that this is what the Papacy said.
My reply:
The Pope says we can not be individual follwoers of the Messiah, but only through the Church. Undestood to be the Roman Catholic Church. The Jews have never accpeted the “Pope”, nor his “CHurch”.
Beliving Jews are organized is synagogues, or and messianic congregations. They are baptized based on their conferssion of faith. They celerabthe the Jewish Sabbath, keep the Passover according to the Jewish callendar, (Nisan 14th) and celebrste all the Jewish feasts.
All of this has been deleted in the Roman Catholic Church, abd replaced by the dotrcines of the Papacy.
Dear Ivar
You wrote:
The Pope says we can not be individual follwoers of the Messiah, but only through the Church. Undestood to be the Roman Catholic Church. The Jews have never accpeted the “Pope”, nor his “CHurch”.
I reply:
There are Jews who have accepted the Bishop of Rome.
You wrote:
Beliving Jews are organized is synagogues, or and messianic congregations. They are baptized based on their conferssion of faith. They celerabthe the Jewish Sabbath, keep the Passover according to the Jewish callendar, (Nisan 14th) and celebrste all the Jewish feasts.
I reply:
The Hebrew Catholic Jews do celebrate the Jewish Sabbath (rest) from sunset on Friday.
The Hebrew Catholic Jews do keep the Jewish calendar (Nisan 14th) and other Jewish festivals.
You wrote:
All of this has been deleted in the Roman Catholic Church, abd replaced by the dotrcines of the Papacy.
My reply:
Colossians 2:16
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat or in drink, or in respect of a festival day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbaths,
Dear Ivar
You wrote:
This is another falcification of history. The lamb was blodless. It had to hung over night, so that all the blood had left the lamb. It is an abomination and a grave sin to drink blood. It is a satanic ritual.
I reply:
The Eucharist is bloodless.
Truly a miracle from Heaven – the Old Testament Passover completely fulfilled.
Dear Armorrcc……
You are in grave errorr. You have to be born again by the Holy Ghost. You have to put your entire life in the hands of Jesus. Not pope, not mary, not church, not me, not ivar, not religion, not good works, not yourself.
Please ask God of Israel to open Word of God 4 you. You risking Hellfire myfriend. God is trying reach to you trough this blog and bro Ivar………please ask Lord to open your heart.
I must worn you that you are under Gal 1:8-9. Please repent and turn to Jesus
Dear armorrcc
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You wrote:
The Eucharist is bloodless.
My comment:
Do not jump the topic. The Catholic priests claim they drink physical blood, the blood of the Messiah. The Bible explain that this is a sin, banned by God’s own law.
Is this correct a correct observation. Yes or no. Kindly reply.
Dear Ivar
You wrote:
Do not jump the topic.
My reply
To not to bend the rules of this forum, please show me where I have jump the topic and how so?
I do not understand.
Kind Regards
God Bless
Dear armorrcc
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
The topic here is if Christians can be so, outside of the Church, read Rome. The Pope can accept anything, as long as they bow before his claimed Lordship.
The Pope can even accept Judaism, if the followers of Jewish festivals, can accept his supremacy at the “Vicar of Christ”. The Pope desire to be the head over all the World religions.
According to Rome, no Christian can be so without accpting the Pope as the sucessor of Peter, the head of the Church.
Jesus’s command to drink His Blood is NOT a violation of God’s law in the Old Testament.
This is why:
1. Mark 7:19
2. Col 2:17-16
3. Col 3:4
Dear armorrcc
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
Ok, lets take it all over again. If you do not repent, than leave this site. This was your second and last chanse.
1. Mark 7:19 (Amplified Bible).
19 Since it does not reach and enter his heart but [only his] digestive tract, and so passes on [into the place designed to receive waste]? Thus He was making and declaring all foods [ceremonially] clean [that is, [a]abolishing the ceremonial distinctions of the Levitical Law].
My comment:
The Roman Catholic Church is an expert in taking scriptures out of context. This is not a scripture about the risk of putting gasoline, poison or whatever into your mouth. But a teaching about the filth that comes out of the heart of a man, displayed in all kind of foolishness and sins, lies, hate, cheating, etc.
You might be chanse eat a badly made biff, with some blood inside. This is not what Jesus is talking about. To drink blood of the alter, is a sin by the law. The blood was supposed to be disposed on the ground. To drink such blood is a sin. Just like lying, killing, cheating, etc. Jesus did not come to abolish the Law, not a single letter of it. Jesus and his students did not drink physical blood, as little as we are supposed to drink blood of humans. We are remembering the blood of the passover lamb of God, shed on the cross of Calvary Hill in Jerusalem.
To mock the blood that Jesus sheed on the cross, is a serious matter. Many have fallen asleep (died) becaue of dealing with the last supper in a not worthy manner. Paul gives us a stern warning. And so do I.
2. Col 2:17-16
16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.
My comment:
True. Nothing we eat, drink, no festival or celebration of the Sabbath can SAVE us. Only the blood of Jesus. Still we do eat, we do drink, we do arrange for festivals, and we enjoy celebrating the Sabbath.
3. Col 3:4
4 When Christ, who is your[a] life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.
My comment:
Scirpture not related to the topic.
This man (so-called “Pope”) should undergo exorcisms or go to a psychiatrist, but I’m not sure in what order … More, I won’t comment, ’cause I’m not a Christian, I do not want to offend anyone. But when Pope recently invited to the Vatican Nazi-Islamists, it became clear who this man is! It’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing! If Pope thinks that any Jew deny their God, their tradition, he’s probably an idiot! Even the Babylon, the Inquisition or Holocaust were not able to kill the faith in the Chosen People and certainly won’t do that such wolves as Obama or Pope Francis. Evil never win with the Goodness! Ever!
Dear Barbara……..
Our beloved Jesus died for you. Please accept his sacrifice on your behalf and put your trust in him. He will never fail you (Jesus from Bible).
May Lord bless you quest 4 truth.
Dear Ivar
You wrote
Scirpture not related to the topic.
My reply
Col 3:4
The Old Testament is very clear about why one was not to eat blood in Lev 17:14 and Deut 12:23.
The Israelites could not eat animal blood because it contained the animal’s life.
But there is one Person whose life you must have in you, “Christ who is your life” (Col 3:4)
Dear armorrcc
Shalom.
You wrote:
But there is one Person whose life you must have in you, “Christ who is your life” (Col 3:4)
My comment:
This is the essense of wickedness of the Roman Catholic Relgion. The claim that by consuming “Christ” physically, you will have him on the inside. The truth is that at man who repents from his life is blasphemy and sin, will get Jesus inside his heart. Empowered by the Holy Spirit.
This is the gross error of the Catholic “Eucharist”, the utimate abomination and blaphemy against God of the Bible. That the Roman Catholics are called to belive in kanibalizm, and lead others into the same error.
Now, find your self another website. And do not return, till I see fruites of repentence.
You wrote
The Roman Catholic Church is an expert in taking scriptures out of context. This is not a scripture about the risk of putting gasoline, poison or whatever into your mouth.
My reply
In Mark 7, Jesus is criticized by some scribes and Pharisees because his disciples eat without washing their hands.
Jesus defends the disciples by saying that it is what comes out of a man’s heart, not what goes into his mouth, that makes him unclean.
Mark then adds an editorial comment to flesh out the implications of this: “Thus he declared all foods clean” ( Mark 7:19).
This was an important because there was a question in the early Church about whether Gentiles had to keep the Jewish food laws
Rom. 14
Gal. 2:11-14
Col. 2:16
This is the start of a series of stories involving Gentiles. (too much for this forum)
dear armorrcc
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
Since I am quite positive that you are an educated person, let me try one more time.
Mark 7:14-15.
Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. Nothing outside a person can defile them by going into them. Rather, it is what comes out of a person that defiles them.”
(end of scripture)
It is possible to twist any kind of scripture, quote it out of context, and use it to defend the dogmas of the Roman Catholic religion. Surely, a lot of thing that a man eat or drink, can defile his stomac, and even kill him. I can make the list long.
But out of the heart of man comes ungodliness, mocking, blaphemy, perversion, hate and lies. That is in fact a larger problem for the Messiah, than all the rubbish that a man might fill up his mouth with. Including claiming to drink blood. And even, the more satanic version: Claiming to drink the blood of the Messiah.
My lost brother, in the Roman Catholic Church. You need to repent, or face eternal jugdment. Pleace do not take the road to Hell, and regret for eternity that you refused to listen, but rather confinued to distribute lawlessness. This was your final warning. I hope you make a U-turn in your life, before it is to late.
Dear Ivar
You wrote
If you do not repent, than leave this site. This was your second and last chanse.
My reply
I do not have to repent because Jesus told us the Church is the bulwark of the truth.
You are the editor of this site and it is your decision to ask me to leave.
Just let me know if it is permanent or only for this page?
Kind Regards
God Bless
The beast no.2. The false prophet Francis
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-assures-atheists-you-dont-have-to-believe-in-god-to-go-to-heaven-8810062.html
Dear Svein Egil Haraldseid
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
In principle, the comment field is for debate on faith. Not a place to link up external websites.
I have written about the Pope, acceting that Atehist can reach heaven by their good deeds. Another of the present Jesuit Pope’s many blaphemic statements.
https://ivarfjeld.com/2013/05/27/pope-francis-claims-atheists-redeemed-by-jesus/
http://www.y….cenored. Editor. =cvcl8pe53yU
Dear Svein Egil Haraldseid
Shalom.
Please pay attention to the rules and regulation on this site. I have sencored your last link.
According to Alberto Rivera called it: holy mother church roman catholic.
It is written about her in the book of Revelation. chapter 13 – 18
I pray not at all of salvation for the beast no.2. The false prophet Francis : ( !!
“With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication , and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication . So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness : and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast , full of names of blasphemy , having seven heads and ten horns . And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour , and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls , having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication : {decked: Gr. gilded} And upon her forehead [was] a name written , MYSTERY , BABYLON THE GREAT , THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH . {harlots: or, fornications} And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints , and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus : and when I saw her , I wondered with great admiration . ”
(The Revelation to John. 17. 2 – 6) King James Bible
“And I heard another voice from heaven , saying , Come out of her , my people , that ye be not partakers of her sins , and that ye receive not of her plagues . For her sins have reached unto heaven , and God hath remembered her iniquities . Reward her even as she rewarded you , and double unto her double according to her works : in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double . How much she hath glorified herself , and lived deliciously , so much torment and sorrow give her : for she saith in her heart , I sit a queen , and am no widow , and shall see no sorrow . ”
(The Revelation to John 18. 4 – 7) King James Bible
“Come out of her , my people” : ) !!
Dear Svein Egil Haraldseid
Rev 17:18 tells us who, or what and where the “whore” is,
“And the woman whom thou sawest is the great city which has kingship over the kings of the earth.”
Is the great city Rome?
If it is Rome can you proof it?
Dear armorrcc
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
I have told you to depart from this site. Do not bother writing more messages. The next one will be spammed.
“Therefore shall her plagues come in one day , death , and mourning , and famine ; and she shall be utterly burned with fire : for strong [is] the Lord God who judgeth her . ”
(The Revalation to John 18. 8) King James Bible
The pope is obviously the head of the Rev 17&18 Great Whore. He is not either of the two “beast” of Rev 13-forward. They are two other men.
ivarfjeld you are a fool for talking against the pope. He is the pope and there is nothing you can do about it. Devil!
Amaka,
Perhaps you should take a long hard look at your own theological loyalties before calling anyone a fool. There is no logical or moral argument that you or anyone else can present which could justify the wickedness that is, and has been, from its inception, the Catholic Church. The same organization that the Pope is the head of.