Vatican cantor hail Lucifer

Watch two minutes video: The Vatican announce Lucifer to be the father of “Christ”. Quite shocking and spectacular, but in every way, in accordance with the Prophetic Word:

Let see who the Bible say Lucifer is:

Isaiah 14:12 (Darby Translation)
How art thou fallen from heaven, Lucifer, son of the morning! Thou art cut down to the ground, that didst prostrate the nations!

Isaiah 14:12
King James Version (KJV)
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Isaiah 14:12
Amplified Bible (AMP)
12 How have you fallen from heaven, O light-bringer and daystar, son of the morning! How you have been cut down to the ground, you who weakened and laid low the nations [O blasphemous, satanic king of Babylon!]

The true Church will be able to identify the man of lawlessness, the man of sin, destined for destruction.  The true Church will be given power to resist him, and his worldwide religious movement, even to the point of death.

Published by Ivar

 

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50 thoughts on “Vatican cantor hail Lucifer

  1. Ivar,
    I neither speak, nor read much Latin, so I can’t be sure of what is being said, but I find it incredible that they would come right out like this.
    Are you sure this isn’t a fake, designed to make anti-Catholics look stupid?

    1. Dear Phil Mayo

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      Here is a translation I have found on the net. Anyone, who know Latin here?

       ”Flammas eius lucifer matutinus inveniat:  ille, inquam, Lucifer, qui nescit occasum, Christus Fillus tuus, qui, regressus ab inferis, humano generi serenus illuxit, et vivit et regnat, in saecula, saeculorum. “
      which in latin translated to English means:
      “Flaming Lucifer finds mankind, I say: Oh Lucifer, who will never be defeated, Christ is your son who came back from hell, shed his peaceful light and is alive and regins in the world without end”.

      1. Ivar,
        So sorry to question your infallibility on this subject, but I don’t like to take the word of anyone without checking it out.
        As I said. I don’t speak much Latin, so those words the guy is singing are not something I can just write down and go research, like you scornfully suggest.

        This passage you wrote – ”Flammas eius lucifer matutinus inveniat: ille, inquam, Lucifer, qui nescit occasum, Christus Fillus tuus, qui, regressus ab inferis, humano generi serenus illuxit, et vivit et regnat, in saecula, saeculorum.”

        Are you a Latin speaker? Did you hear and understand those words yourself, or were you told that is what was said?

      2. Phil Mayo

        Shalom, and love in Jesus.

        You wrote:

        So sorry to question your infallibility on this subject, but I don’t like to take the word of anyone without checking it out…

        My reply:

        Is this meant to be irony?

      3. This is an example of Arcadian Luciferianism. Although it is often compared with Satanism, its adherents would deny that they are Satanists. In actual fact, they worship Satan but they are deceived by him to think that they are worshiping a positive figure modeled after the Greek god Prometheus. Hard to believe that they could be declaring this heresy so openly but the RCC has always engaged in a lot of syncretism. Combining the truth with paganism is their specialty–“Mystery Babylon–the mother of harlots” is an apt description of those who would forsake the revealed Biblical truth for the made-up teachings of rank paganism.

    2. Phil Mayo, I know Latin, the native tongue of Rome. In fact I got a BA degree in foreign languages, and I am a certified professional translator.
      Every Easter, the Vatican invokes Lucifer Satan; every Easter, Rome broadcasts the same blasphemy… to deceive the world, the Vatican keeps on speaking the devil’s tongue that few understand. Instead of repenting, the Vatican edited wiki and gave a FALSE translation. Because of this, I no longer trust wiki, which has become a useful tongue of Satan.

      1. Correct sir ! i am the No Weapon Formed Against You Shall Prosper , bearer , and a few other things. More important than the Religion megga fuck up.
        The off world attackers coming to kill and harvest everyone except , traitors from USA ! unsure who they are with underground complex !
        To be able to survive the lightwave attack you need the cure from me!
        All with no cure dead in 7-10 mins after flash! like a 2 pack glue 🙂 curse in your head kills you 🙂 They never have casulty ! only from me !

    1. Dear Denise

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      God of Israel puts lying spirits in the mouths of people, as He desires. To expose liars. The cantor in the Vatican is one of them.

      1 Samuel 18:10
      The next day an evil spirit from God came forcefully on Saul. He was prophesying in his house, while David was playing the lyre, as he usually did. Saul had a spear in his hand.

      1 Kings 22:22
      ‘“By what means?” the Lord asked. ‘“I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,” he said. ‘“You will succeed in enticing him,” said the Lord. “Go and do it.”

      Psalm 5:9
      Not a word from their mouth can be trusted; their heart is filled with malice. Their throat is an open grave; with their tongues they tell lies.

  2. This prayer is the Exsultet. Lucifer, from lux, lucis (light, dawn) + fero, ferre (to carry), literally means light-bringer; in this case, Morning Star. Lucifer is used several times throughout the Vulgate in contexts that have no reference to the devil.
    I’m not sure where your translation came from, but the first two lines are translated inaccurately.
    Hence: “May this flame be found still burning by the Morning Star: the one Morning Star who never sets, Christ your Son, who, coming back from death’s domain, has shed his peaceful light on humanity, and lives and reigns for ever and ever.”

    1. Dear armorrcc

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      You are at least honest, and admit that Lucifer is worshiped in Rome. A lot of claimed to be Protestants will outright reject this, because they will have to identify the antichrist while they are still on Earth. And their false teachers do not permit them to do so.

      Let see who the Bible say Lucifer is:

      Isaiah 14:12 (Darby Translation)
      How art thou fallen from heaven, Lucifer, son of the morning! Thou art cut down to the ground, that didst prostrate the nations!

      Isaiah 14:12
      King James Version (KJV)
      12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

      Isaiah 14:12
      Amplified Bible (AMP)
      12 How have you fallen from heaven, O light-bringer and daystar, son of the morning! How you have been cut down to the ground, you who weakened and laid low the nations [O blasphemous, satanic king of Babylon!]

      1. I did NOT admit Rome is worshipping lucifer.

        Morning Star is used in various context in Scripture. We see this in Revelations, Job, Peter and Isaiah. 

        The issue is not lucifer or Christ, it is “Morning Star” which is an analogy of a supernatural entity. In Isaiah it refers to a King of Babylon who in essense was linked to satan as lucifer. In Revelations it refers to Christ.

        The Latin Vulgate does not use lucifer or luciferum as a proper name for Satan or Christ, or anyone. It is used as a description

      2. Dear armorrcc

        Shalom, and love in Jesus.

        Lets see what scripture says about this topic:

        Revelation 22:16
        I, Jesus, have sent My messenger (angel) to you to witness and to give you assurance of these things for the churches (assemblies). I am the Root (the Source) and the Offspring of David, the radiant and brilliant Morning Star.

        My reply:

        Jesus the Messiah is NOT the son of the morning star. (a collection of illuminated gas). Neither is he ” a star”. Regardless of what the Vatican might claim. Neither is Jesus “a root” (a physical plant), a gate (of wood), a rock (a stone), nor is he “a light” (a candle).

        The cantor of the Vatican sing about “Lucifer” and “Christ your son”. This connection is absolutely true. The Christ of the Vatican is an invention of Lucifer. He is not the eternal Son of God of Israel. The “Christ” of the Roman Catholic religion is not the Messiah of the Bible.

    2. “I’m not sure where your translation came from”
      How much has the Vatican paid you to say that? I’ve met hundreds of Roman Catholic committed satan followers screaming the same lies!

  3. In Roman astronomy, Lucifer was the name given to the morning star. The name derives from the Latin term lucem ferre, bringer, or bearer, of light.” In the Hebrew text the expression used to describe the
    Babylonian king before his death is Helal, son of Shahar, which can best be translated as “Day star, son of the Dawn.”
    Again “Lucifer” is nothing more than an ancient Latin name for the morning star, the bringer of light. I understand that it is confusing for Christians (including Catholics, who is also Christian 🙂 who identify Christ as the morning star, a term used as a central theme in many Christian sermons. As already pointed out Revelation 22:16
    I do not know why this is a problem for you. The Mormons are having much more diffulty because they claim the book of mormons was written before 600BC.

    1. dear armorrcc

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      Deception do not take place by introducing something new and strange. Deception take place when there is a replacement of the original substance of words, and when the original meaning is deleted.

      Let me give you some examples.

      1. Biblical “peace” is the end of hostility with God.
      2. The Nazi meaning of “peace” is end of hostility with Hitler.
      3. The Biblical “Holy Father” is God the almighty
      4. The Roman Catholic “Holy Father” is the Pope.
      5. The Roman Catholic “Christ” is the son of “Lucifer”.
      6. The Biblical Messiah is eternal God of Israel.
      7. The Biblical “Lucifer” is the Satanic King of Babylon, Satan him self.
      8. The Roman Catholic “Lucifer” is a an angel of light, or a shining star.

      Do you understand what I am trying to tell you?

      Rome has not abolished, but changed:
      1. The Biblical calender.
      2. The appointed Biblical feasts.
      3. The meaning of words in the scripture.
      4. Biblical leadership.
      5. The substance of the ‘Holy Father”.
      6. The understanding of the fatherhood of “Christ”.
      7. The Biblical substance of the word “Lucifer”.
      8. The Biblical Law.
      9. The understanding of the sinful nature of the mother of Jesus.
      etc.

      Out of this comes an anti (replacement) faith of the Biblical faith, lead by an anti-Messiah.

      1. Ok, you have thrown in at least 6 or 7 untruths or misunderstandings regarding the Catholic faith.
        I will stay on topic regarding the meaning of “Lucifer” For examle:
        You are writing final year Latin exam and you have to get this question correct to graduate and earn your degree.
        Question
        What is the meaning of lucifer. Explain in short english (1point)

      2. Dear armorrcc

        Shalom, and love in Jesus.

        This is basic.

        Lucifer is Satan according to the Hebrew Bible.
        Lucifer is the father of “Christ” according to to the Latin Vulgate.

        Now you answer me:

        Who came first? The Hebrew Bible, or the Latin Vulgate?

        Who replaced the original Biblical meaning?

        I will never, even to the point of death, claim “Lucifer” to be the father of the Messiah. Its just one more blasphemy invented by demons, from the deepest pits of the abyss.

  4. My closing comments.
    To answer your question: The Hebrew Bible.
    You have inserted words of Martin Luther elsewhere, trying to proof me wrong. Below you will find words from Calvin and Luther regarding Isaiah 14:12.
    Calvin said: “The exposition of this passage, which some have given, as if it referred to Satan, has arisen from ignorance: for the context plainly shows these statements must be understood in reference to the king of the Babylonians.” Luther also considered it a gross error to refer this verse to the devil.
    In his lectures on Isaiah concerning this verse, Martin Luther indicated that the Hebrew word “denotes the morning star, called Lucifer and the son of Dawn” (Luther’s Works, Vol. 16, p. 140). According to this translation of his own comments, Luther’s rendering was “morning star“ was intended to mean the same as “Lucifer.”
    You will also notice the most Bibles have a foot note:
    a. Isaiah 14:12 Literally Day Star
    My Catholic Bible (RSV) Isaiah 14:12
    12 “How you are fallen from heaven,
    O Day Star, son of Dawn!
    How you are cut down to the ground,
    you who laid the nations low!
    Lastly. You said – Point 5:
    5. The Roman Catholic “Christ” is the son of “Lucifer”.
    I answer:
    This is absolutely not true and is a clever way to persecute the Catholic Church.
    The Hebrew word translated “Lucifer” is helel (or heylel), from the root, hâlâl, meaning “to shine” or “to bear light.”
    This from the Complete Jewish Bible – Please note it is the same as the RSV Catholic Bible
    Isaiah 14:12
    Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
    12 “How did you come to fall from the heavens,
    morning star, son of the dawn?
    How did you come to be cut to the ground,
    conqueror of nations?
    Here is the Hebrew Name Bible
    “How you are fallen from heaven, Heylel, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, who laid the nations low!”

    In the context of Chapter 14 – Lucifer is not Satan.

    1. dear armorrcc

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      I understand you do not want to debate this topic…I hope your soul starts revolting from within, every time you say: “Jesus, the son of Lucifer”. Please repent, and understand that you have been royally deceived.

      There are millions of souls that have been set free by the true Messiah. They will never again, submit to the blasphemies of the papacy.

    2. whoever resists authority opposes what God has appointed, and those who oppose it will bring judgment upon themselves.
      Romans 13:2
      Wrong is wrong whether it is Calvin or Luther or even centuries old!

      1. Dear Oldman

        Shalom, and love in Jesus.

        You never stop amazing me. Please do not leave this blog. We need witnesses who confirm that all written on this blog about the wickedness of Roman Catholicism is true. Please convince me, that you are not cursed, and beyond the point where you can not be rescued.

        Please repent, renounce the papacy and the pagan Catholic “Queen of Heaven”. Accept the Lordship of Jesus the Messiah, and stay faithful to Him, only. Amen.

      2. Very well said. Over 30,000 christian denominations claiming they understand The word of God and they understand Jesus but are not unified. A modern day confusion of the tongue like in genesis. They are in the wilderness.

    3. Hi armorrcc,
      To quote a famous Rabbi; the bottom line is this…”By their fruits you shall know them.” Those who practice the Catholic faith, still pray to dead saints, which is necromancy, a practice which is absolutely forbidden. The Pope still claims to take the place of Christ on the earth, which is the workings of the Antichrist, and also blasphemous. The Priests still claim the power to forgive sins, something that only GOD can do. These practices, and there are many more, are satanic.

      When I read Isaiah 14: This is how I understand it: This is Satan: “How you are fallen from heaven;” The king of Babylon never fell from heaven. 9: “Hell from beneath is excited about you, To meet you at your coming; It stirs up the dead for you,” HaShem is talking to Satan. I believe that this is prophetic, speaking of the not only the King of Babylon, who is a type and shadow of the coming Antichrist. I believe that this is speaking of Satan as the embodiment of the finale Antichrist who will be possessed by Satan.

      The Catholic Church has persecuted the Jewish people. Priests have continually molested young boys; After which, the church concealed the truth and then gave cover to the offending Priests. The Catholic Church still changed ‘times and laws,” too numerous to bother listing. The Catholics still practice infant baptisms, etc.

      As for your argument on Isaiah; There are a literary {tools}, I can’t think of the right term at the moment, but they are called personifications, and metaphors. Both English and Hebrew frequently employ these methods. Example: The King of Babylon and the Antichrist are often interchangeable. Another example is using the word mountains for kingdoms, etc.

      There are passages in the Bible which are not completely understood, much the same as there are mysteries, like the Seven Thunders. I imagine this is why the scriptures tell us that Yeshua will be our teacher during the Millennial reign. “Right now, we see through the glass darkly!” That being said: GOD has given us more than enough information, so that we will be without excuse when Yeshua returns to judge the living and the dead. Therefore, if we know that certain practices are unbiblical, then we also know that any church or person who practices such things should be called out on it, and then avoided.

      1. Who is the pagan queen? No catholic worships anyone other than God! Your operated out of ignorance. These saints are venerated and not worshiped, they are not prayed to but are asked to pray for us.
        Ephesians 6:18
        With all prayer and petition pray at all times in the Spirit, and with this in view, be on the alert with all perseverance and petition for all the saints,

  5. Good post ivarf. Don’t debate to much with this armorccc lucifer is lucifer period , dont look or try to find or make the name lucifer as something other than satan. The Vatican is falsehood . The evil of this world doesn’t hide anything anymore satan and his minions know how blind people are with their music and entertaiment that they just rub it right in your face and you still follow this people , amazing how blind people are , we need to pray for eachother and those people who are ignorant by choice , pride, selfishness self and pleasure . Lucifer is satan , we are living in the time of evil where good is bad and evil is good , there is a reason for sites like this and comments like mine ,ivarf and other brothers and sister on this site who make comments and write articles so you can wake up from this evil blindnes coming from the enemy wich is nothing but truth mix with lies.This is how satan gets you with mixing the truth, he will never come to you with horns to deceive you , he will come like an agel of light to get you against God and the word of God wich is God. Lucifer is satan period. Get prepare people , this is just the beginning we are going to be persecuted and evil will come to us to brake are Church , homes, marriages, family and are walk with God . There is going to be choices that we have to make , wether to compromise the word of God , the Gospel and to be trendy like the world who accepts every evil as good and call it love. This is how long this comments is ,because we know that the God of Israel the creator loves you and he doesn’t want you to be deceive.

    1. so True. did you know that if you take the D off of Devil, you are left with D-evil.
      Satan hides his own persona in one of his names, since he has more.

      1. Yes but evil backwards is live and to live is to love one”s self and love spelled backward’s is evol… which sounds like evil….evol love ….. nobody who chooses to live is truly evil for evil in its purest form is hate and hate ceases to exist therefore the Devil shares the same benevolent nature as God…

  6. Ivarf, I think you say enough to this armorcc . I just want to say this to you Ivarf and the rest of you brothers and sisters, there is to many Trolls on the internet and most of this comments are from a goverment troll, atheist , gay activist or hackers. A person with common sense will understand what Lucifer is , this i how you know wo is searching for the truth or who is working for Satan or some stupid hacker or goverment troll. This people are not going to stop debating you , so dont give up on this site and continue what you are doing cause this evil people that troll your sites and other christian sites comment , this people are trying to distort the truth and we can’t stop cause there is a lot of people searching for the truth and the truth is in God Word. Keep perching the Gospel and don’t stop , don’t compromise and dont comfort to this world . They hate us cause they choose not to be where we at so they try to make you like them , they are evil , sarcastic , selfish , cowards and ignorant. Jesus Christ has trample over that. God bless you all and learn how to discern and know about spiritual warfare is very real and scary for those are knew in Christ. Most people in this world are still living inside the worldly box , if you step out of the box you will be able to see how evil this world is especially on this time we are living and this is baby stuff compare to what is coming.

    1. Dear Ee.

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      You wrote:

      Ivarf, I think you say enough to this armorcc .

      My reply:

      I feel we have to love Roman Catholics enough to take them at face value. Here we had one of them at least admitting that “Lucifer” is worshiped in the Vatican, as the father of “Jesus”. As I have written. Many claimed to be protestants will outright deny this. Because their false prophets and false teachers hail the Pope as a Christian leader. A brother of them.

      1. Dear Ivar
        Please show me where I have used the word worship/ed other than June 2 2014 at 9:18 where i said “I did NOT admit Rome is worshipping lucifer” It is not fair to play around with words.

        Futher, there is no way you will be able to convert me if you allow your members/followers to use words like “troll, gay etc,”
        That is in line with hate speech.
        God Bless you all

      2. Dear armorrcc

        Shalom, and love in Jesus.

        First. News That Matters is a free blog. No membership. People can operate here with false ID,s. I do not, and can not, know who all my readers are.

        But I do have the spam button, and can delete messages. Anyone calling you “gay” or “troll”, just tell me. I will warn them, and tell them to repent.

        You have admitted that “Lucifer” is worshiped in Rome, as the claimed father of “Christ”. The issue is what we put into the Word “Lucifer”. The Hebrew Bible pre-dates the Latin Vulgate by around 1200 years. It was the Latin Vulgate who changed the substance of “Lucifer” used in the Word of God. I have already given you Biblical proof of this fact.

  7. Armorccc, what you don’t understand is that man dont convert anyone, that’s between you and God. We can preach the Gospel ,tell you about sin and to repent and lead you to the word of God , so you can line up what your beliefs are with the bible and see if they 100% line up with the word of God, if it doesn’t then you are going to have to make some changes by studying the word, faith and prayer. This is between you and God , he gave you a free will and you have a choice to choose a false man at the Vatican or The real God The Bible. To this World today everything you call out sin is a hate speech and if you feel offended by it is because your conscience is wrong in one of these. If your heart is open, just come to The Lord and belive and leave earthly thinking and start believing in his word, have a relationship with him.I am a sinner but am not living in sin , through reading the word and spending time with God i sin less. I was also a fornicator , but that was 7 years ago and I don’t get stuck in the past because God made me new . My friend Love is not hate speech and telling people of what is really happening is not hate speech. The reason this world is what it is , is because people are trendy to sin . People today are afraid to tell someone the truth because they don’t want to loose their status, jobs, friends and their ambitions or they want to be love by men instead, we lie instead and send people to hell, I can’t live with knowing of people been separated from God , because of satan and evil men twisting God word leading people away from the truth, I can’t live with that. If you don’t listen at end of the day it becomes your problem not us not mine, Jesus did wipe his feet on some people because he knew they were truly evil and he knew they rejected the son of man.

    Matthew 4:4
    New International Version (NIV)
    4 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’[a]”

    Mark 8:36
    New International Version (NIV)
    36 What good is it for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul?

    I rather tell the truth to someone and be called a hater than winning your friendship and you and I loosing are soul. By , prayer i hope God open your heart, mind and soul just like he did with me.

    My time is not wasted , cause people are more important than my time and God loves you so much and is not right for me to know the truth and just sit around and watch people get confuse and hurt because of lies and twisting of the word of God, not cool.

  8. Ivarf , this is how Evil people operate , they call it hate speech when you tell them truth . There is groups of Gay, Atheist, Goverment and Hackers, their purpose is to mess around with Christian blog or sites to keep people away from the truth and away from this site you created for the purpose of winning souls for the Kingdom of God. They call it a hate speech because is the only way to coward away from the truth and distort people and basically say I told you so, so people will stop doing research when they are seeking truth. If I tell you the things what this groups are doing and trying to do with my family ,maybe you will understand me. We are living in the time were us who believe in the God of Israel and his Son Jesus Christ , we are call haters and this is just the beginning, people need to prepare themselves cause is going to get worst. I got proof of this , this is why am speaking out about it, so you people know.

  9. i really can’t fathom why the Pope should mention Lucifer in his prayers and further confuse/mislead catholics??? and these catholics accept EVERYTHING the pope says or do blindly, hook line and sinker!! It really saddens my heart because if I myself saw the mistakes of the RCC (i was once a catholic), why can’t the others see as well?? We do need a lot of true Christians to evangelize and preach the Bible!

    1. “i really can’t fathom why the Pope should mention Lucifer in his prayers”
      Because the pope is a WHORE. Get it? The Mother of WHORES, always dressed in a white gown, to cover her stained nakedness exposed to all abominations!

  10. Mary is Lucifer, according to the twisted theology of the Vatican. Lucifer is female and this is why the focus is on Mary, and not Jesus, in many Catholic teachings.

    It is possible that the Catholic Church started Islam. Mary is held in very high regard in Koranic scripture. How the Catholic Church views her may actually be found in the Koran.

  11. The word ‘Vatican’ is classic Latin, means ‘hill/or place of divination’.
    Yes, the chanted Latin is correct – unfortunately, the Satanic Vatican embraces Lucifer. I am a former nun, was with the Carmelite order for many years. They have also ‘promoted’ Mary to be co-redemtress with Jesus – what an abomination this is.
    Am not longer a Catholic, but wholly/exclusively embrace Christ as Savior.

    Pam

  12. First of all the POP isn’t a prophet.. He is a man elected of men and claims NO divine AUTHORITY. A prophet is called of God. Second, Christ proclaims His Father, God. Christ proclaims himself Son of God. Christ ALSO proclaim he and the Father are ONE in purpose….to bring to pass the redemption of ALL MANKIND to return from that place from whence we came.

    1. Dear Deb Tidwell

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      You wrote:

      First of all the POP isn’t a prophet.. He is a man elected of men and claims NO divine AUTHORITY…

      My reply:

      You are partly right. The Pope is not a prophet. Still many protestants polute the body of Jesus, claiming that the Pope is a false prophet. How can it be!. A man who do not claim to be a prophet, can NOT be a false prophet.

      Still the Pope claim to have divine authority. In fact, over the whole universal Church on the face of the Earth. The Pope claim that the supposed to be executive authority given my Jesus to the apostle Peter, has been handed over to him. The Pope is therefor elevated to the seat of God, hailed as the “Holy Father”. And the Vatican also claim that the Pope has replaced the Holy Spirit as the “Vicar of Christ”. Truly the Pope is worshiped by the Roman Catholic like a god in the flesh.

  13. i just wanna say so simple ..brother and sister…JESUS said i am the way the truth and the light,,no one comes to the FATHER except through me.,, so you dont have to pray to anyone else,,saints,,maria,,coz they connot do anything for you,,just fucos to JESUS CHRIST THE LORD,…HE is only the way of SALVATION,,,GOD BLESS YOU,,BROTHERS,,AND SISTERS,,SHALOM,,

  14. Enough babbling folks. The bottomline is, why does the roman catholic church still use Latin in the first place, when no one even understand? None of my roman catholic friends understand this, and they don’t even care to wonder and ask. People are deceived in this scheme of things and different interpretations of the old language, including unfamiliar and ambiguous terms only complicate things. Shouldn’t be the message be understandable to all? How sad 😦

  15. LUCIFER the light was cast down from heaven,to be the dweller of darkness,Then where did Satan come from please explain witty,as you must know many deities,demon’s,Goddess/Gods have many titles,are you sure there not one in the same ?

    1. Lucifer represents all facets of human nature, the imperfections of mankind that are deemed unworthy for God’s heaven. No matter how evil or innocent ones intentions may be if they don’t fit with God’s ideal of perfection then lucifer provides a home for those whom fall short of making the cut and those whom find an identity within their immoral depraved manic affliction ridden disposition as they where born with it and it is all that they have know so they they would rather forgo entering the golden gates and white clouds of heaven where all I’s revealed in stunning radiance for the Lower world where darkness allows them discretion and privacy to enjoy the carnal animalistic side of their nature and the black hell flames just the right amount of light as to welcome ones colorful personalality into an arena where it might fiND other colorful exuberant expression’s of life unchained as those whos’s once angst ridden turmoil of self acceptance becomes less of a burdensome thing as they see others enjoying their guilty pleasures without the guilt….. Lucifer accepts all no matter how depraved into his underwold playground for if he even turned the most vial wicked inhumane soul away he would be doing humanity no favor as he represents all that is wrong but so right with God’s creation….D-evoIIove…. its right in the words Devil-evil-love…..

      Hate stops existing at the point it realizes that in order for it to be a reality it has to forgo ceasing to exist and become a part of something that is interwoven with life as its reality depends on it and anything that is a part of life is a part of creation which is an act of love therfore hate stops in a standstill and makes peace with love and retire’s into history as an explanative.

      Lucifer wins as God’s victory is above man where as lucifer’s is below waiting to catch him when he falls…

      The morning star breaks God’s laws and shines during the day escaping the night and even outshines the sun as it represents our dreams and all that we are and can become beyond God’s word and power which lucifer shows we have in us ….

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