To remove the active “saints”, who have identified the antichrist, if possible, seems to be a huge contradiction to our calling of being a true and trustworthy witness.
Her are some points you can use to defend your faith in the written Word of God. The last battle will stand in Zion, and the true witnesses will never be removed by any antichrist. We will not keep quiet.
1. Jesus the Messiah said that he would be with us to the end. The claimed timing of the pre-trib rapture is not the end. There are many more episodes to be played on the face of the Earth.
2. If the pre-trib rapture is the “end”, when shall the sheep and the goats be separated? (Matthew 25:31, onwards).
Shall all the “saints” return from the presumed “wedding party”, to be separated from the goats, one more time?
First time they claim they will escaped secretly. One day they presumably will return from the party in Heaven, and be present in Jerusalem. This is a message to people standing before the Judgment throne in the city of King David. It is not a nice message to all who ignored the needs of of the Jews, gathered home to Zion by the Messiah.
Matthew 25:44-46.
44 ‘They also will answer, “Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or ill or in prison, and did not help you?”
45 ‘He will reply, “Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.”
46 ‘Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.’
Stop doing, not helping the Jewish people, stop witnessing was never a desirable option for the true witnesses.
3. Jesus the Messiah will have to return to the Earth anyhow, after the antichrist has been revealed. To kill the last man of lawlessness. So in those days He will at least have witnesses present all over the Earth. Simply because His true witnesses testified globally, about a loving God, by their refusal to worship the beast.
And I said to him, “Sir, you know.” So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.Therefore they are before the throne of God, and serve Him day and night in His temple. And He who sits on the throne will dwell among them.
To all who believe in the Word of God as it is written, this might seems both logic and obvious. You have to resist the truth, to deny this. And listen to those who take a Bible verse from here and there, and make it into an theology who is very much pleasing to the papacy.
Please be alarmed: The so-called free Churches have now, formally, accepted the Pope in Rome as a Christian leader. They have all been intoxicated by the teachers of the pre-trib doctrine. The almost absolute majority of them, have stopped calling the Pope an antichrist. Simply because they have been drilled to believe, that no one can identify the last and final antichrist. We are told that Martin Luther, John Calvin, all the Church reformers, all Baptist preachers through the ages, were “obviusly wrong”. Just like the Vatican II Council demand from the global Church. If you do not support the Pope, at least keep quite, and leave the question up in the air.
We are told by our leaders, that the “saints” do not have to worry (reflect on, warn about and resist), not to take the mark of the beast.
The fruits of this kind of theology, is a defenseless Church, who will easily walk into deceptions.
No doubts, Jesus the Messiah asked if the Son of Man will find faith on the Earth, when he returns. Or just a huge multitude of religious people, misusing His name. Just like the Pope.
Hebrews 9:28
so the Messiah was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.
Stay put in the Word of God. Obey, trust and rely on the Messiah. The Word can be trusted. The Word shall be understood as it is written. The Word is infallible, and Jesus the Messiah will be with you till the end of time. Eternally.
Written by Ivar
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It is written in 2 Thessalonians that God will send Delusion so people who refuse to accept the truth will believe what is false.
So, we should understand that those who now appear to be returning to Rome must have been teaching lies all along. This is to be expected.
Furthermore, those who bear witness to the truth will be hated for it.
May God watch over His servants. Amen
Do you keep Torah, 7th day Shabbat and not sunday? Do you also keep YAH’s moedim [feasts]? I need to ask you this. And if you understand we are to question brothers and be Berean’s then you will understand. Thank you.
We are in the pre-tribulation period before Christ returns to gather his elect from the four corners. He comes from the North † As far as Sabbaths or Shabbats…
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. Colossians 2:16
One Torah For ALL who align themselves with Israel. Are you grafted in to Israel?
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You have taken Colossians 2:16 out of context. That is a letter written by Shaul [Paul] to the Colossians telling them that they had accepted Yeshua as Messiah, and to walk with Him, vs. 6, and to see to it that no one makes prey of them through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the TRADITIONS of men, according to the elementary mattes of the WORLD, and NOT according to Messiah, vs. 8.
Because in Him dwells all of the COMPLETENESS of Elohim-ness bodily, and they were made complete in Him, who is the HEAD of all principality and authority. vs. 9-10.
and read on the remaining verses wherein Shaul admonishes the Colossians and told them that all of their old ways had been forgiven, and all of their trespasses agains His Word [Torah] were blotted out, that which was written by hand against them, and those sins committed by the Colossians against His Word [Torah] were nailed to the cross and forgiven. Their SINS, not the Torah! He said that not one jot nor tittle would ever pass away.
And then, proceeding on Shaul tells the Colossians that Messiah stripped the principalities and the authorities and made a public display of them, and prevailoed over them in it. So, not to let any man judge them in eating or drinking [keeping kosher as His Word tells us], or in respect to God’s commanded Feast/Festivals [that are His, and are commanded perpetually in His Word, and in which are a sign between He and His Bride Israel], and in observing/keeping the New Moons [again in His Word], and in keeping Shabbat [inHis Word=Torah] the only sign that Israel are His People.
Are you grafted in? Then if you say you are, you are to keep His Word. ALL of it. NONE of it has been done away with or changed, and Yeshua has a HUGE admonishment from HIS own mouth to ANYONE who changes any of it [does away with the true Shabbat, Feast/Festivals of YAH, New Moons, Kosher foods that YAH told us to eat, and also what we are not to eat] at the end of Revelation.
So you decide. I challenge you to do a deep heart felt study into this because time IS short and the only way that His Bride will be protected is if they follow His Bride diet, and all of the things that He set before them in His Covenant with His Bride-Israel. There are not two brides. Only one, and it is His People Israel. 12 tribes. What gate will you enter? What tribe will you belong to?
I say this out of love and concern, and we will also be judged by how we judge and what we teach others. We should strive to teach others His Truth, which is His Torah. Look up the Hebrew translations for Word, Truth, Teaching, Instruction, Custom, Guidance, System.
It is Israel’s Ketubah [Covenant] with YHVH. In the world we often times see a man and a wife divorce and annul their covenant between themselves. But YHVH’s promises in His Marriage Covenant with Israel is FOREVER!
Shalom
Dear, dear……
expain torah to the saved jungle inhabitans or poor bosnians or my illiterate gradmother (age 92)……
read Romans 3:20
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
….and…..
Acts 15:20, 15:29 & 21:25
Repent and have freedom in Jesus (or Paul vill be angry at you Peter :-))
And remember to read about new testament, in His holy Blood….1Cor 11:25, Eph 2:15, Heb 10:19, Rev 1:5 (KJV)
Jer 31:31 & Eze 11:19
well I’m not here to argue. Are you grafted in to Israel, or are you of the nations? Bottom line. Messiah kept ALL of Torah and so did His disciples. Why would it be any different for us then?
Dear Duesterbeck Tikvah
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
I love Israel enough to:
1. Give the Jewish people the gospel of the salvation in the blood of Jesus (Yeshua) only.
2. Praise God of Israel for His faithfulness to a rather faithless population inside Israel.
3. Honor the Torah enough to accept that I am a lawbreaker and a sinner, who can only be saved by pure grace (not deserved kindness).
4. I do celebrate Jewish festivals. It gives me great joy. Still it will be to cold in the Arctic sector, to stay outside in bamboo huts during Sukkoth, so I skip that part of the fun.
5. Telling all to buy a double portion of Israeli products, when others call for a boycott.
Read Galatians 1:8-9 carefuly……….and then 1 Corinthians 15:1-4….
get rid of this silly stuff, you sound cultish
YES we are all sinners, and saved by His Grace, if we love Him we WILL strive our hardest to Keep/Guard/Treasure His Torah/Commandments/Mitzvot/Sabbath/Feasts.
Afterall it is a sign between He and His Bride, Israel. Doesn’t one strive to keep their marriage covenant with their partner in this world? How much more with our Heavenly Bridegroom-King, Yeshua! Glory be to Him!
Yes, but commands of Jesus. by the way, in ezeq tempe blood sacrifices will be in memorial looking back at calvary, and it will not be 4 kings&priests.
Explain to me…. how will my gradma, age 92, without school, from bosnia, keep Torah?
do yourelf a favour and burdon yourself with law…..not the others, read gal 1:8-9 again, please.
Mido… in the Millennial Kingdom she WILL keep Torah as will everyone who survives that came up against Jerusalam in Yeshua’s Kingdom. The Torah WILL go forth from Zion and ALL nations “that survive” will come to celebrate Sukkot or their and will experience famine/no rain in their land Zechariah 14:16. They will have NO choice. PERIOD. And, it’s not me saying it, it’s our Heavenly Father. So you are not arguing with me, you are arguing with Him. And, there will still be sacrifices. Paul sacrificed in the Newer Writings. And again, Yeshua who IS the Word which = Torah, NEVER did away wth ANYTHING in Torah or He could NOT be the Messiah. He can NOT go against His own Word. He changes NOT.
Duesterbeck Tikvah
Shalom, and love in jesus.
You wrote:
Yeshua who IS the Word which = Torah, NEVER did away wth ANYTHING in Torah or He could NOT be the Messiah. He can NOT go against His own Word. He changes NOT.
My comment:
Matthew 5:18
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
(end)
Also this kind of statements from Jesus, has to be put into context. Did Jesus change anything in the Torah?
Absolutely not. But the whole Torah is about Him. So when He comes in the flesh, what the Torah says will change, is changed. Like, no need for cutting of chicken and bulls to offer blood in the Temple. The blood of the Lamb of God is now the only redemption for mankind there is. A huge change, inline with the Torah. The temple in Jerusalem is ultimately removed. Also inline with the Torah, and the will of God of Israel. Now people of Israel: “Listen to my Son”.
Micah 4:1-3 and Isaiah 2:2-4 declare:
“Now it shall come to pass in the latter days that the mountain of the Lord’s house shall be established on the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow to it. Many people shall come and say, ‘Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; He will teach us His ways, and we shall walk in His paths.’ For out of Zion shall go forth the Torah, and the word [Yeshua] of YHVH from Jerusalem. He shall judge between the nations, and shall rebuke many people; they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.”
And, there are several different types of sacrifices. Yes, Yeshua was the final “blood sacrifice” for our sins and salvation. But there are shalom offerings, grain offerings, thank offerings, guilt offerings, etc. Those will be instituted in the millennial temple. Why else would there be an altar built?
Shalom for now.
She will enter millenium either by newbirth or she will bi survavior at 2nd coming (shorten days 4 elect sake). But i ment 4 belivers now, she isnt required obey all those things.
He who has the Son, has life. Your teaching are like judiazers from acts. Spread gospel, not law. Law brig only death, becouse only Jesus (YHWH) could keep it. We are free from law. We live by the spirit.
As 4 me, Acts 15:20, 15:29 & 21:25 are all requirements from YHWH. And of course 1 Cor 13.
You should be send in India or S. Arabia to preach Torah. We should preach CROSS ONLY.
And, bride is Church, Israel is wife, momentaly disobidient until HOS 5:15 and establishing a new cov 4 house of Israel. Until that happens, you are church who loves Israel, like Ruth loved Naomi, even if you are from Israel, if you are bornagain, you are Church.
Love in Jesus….
Oh My, you are NOT being teached sound doctrine Mido. How can there be a bride and a wife? Two different entities? The Church and Israel? That’s NOT even scriptural. And the Torah was NEVER done away with. It can NOT be. Unfortunately Torah was sorely mistranslated as law. Torah is our instructions for living. And you are correct, that no one can keep it perfectly, but we are to try our hardest to do so. So if you saw we are free from the law, then we can murder? We can commit adultery? We can steal and lie? That makes NO sense whatsoever. When the woman was caught in adultery, Yeshua told her to go and sin NO MORE! He did not tell her go, you are FREE from the law now, you can sin, it’s okay I’ve got that covered. That’s preposterous. And yes we do live by the Ruach [Spirit of YHVH] as His Torah is now written on our hearts, therefore we should yearn to love/guard/treasure and keep His Torah. And remember… Torah=Word=Yeshua [jesus]. I say this out of love in Messiah Yeshua
Shalom for now
“Blow the trumpet in Zion; sound the alarm on my holy hill. Let all who live in the land tremble, for the day of the Lord is coming. It is close at hand”
Joel 2:1
“Blow the trumpet in Zion, declare a holy fast, call a sacred assembly”
Joel 2:15
Hi Ivar
“You said “Did Jesus change anything in the Torah? Absolutely not.”
I seem to remember him changing something Moses had said about divorce…
Matthew 19:2-12
“And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him. And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter. And he said to them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, commits adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she commits adultery.”
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
The Law never changed. Moses changed his views, because the heart of the Jews were hard.
Ivar.
Moses was the mediator between God and the Israelites. What he told them was law. If you are saying it wasn’t, you have no justification in claiming any of it was God’s law. How can you know he didn’t give other laws that God didn’t intend?
The law said “an eye for an eye” but Jesus changed that too. So you have nothing to justify your claim that we should be keeping Torah.
The law was given to show us our need for our saviour Jesus Christ, nothing else.
Dear Phil Mayo
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
You wrote:
How can you know he didn’t give other laws that God didn’t intend?
My reply:
Moses had a difficult task. He received from Jesus what the present days Jews did not want to obey. Not so different from many “Christians” of today, who obey the commands of their likings, and delete or overlook the rest.
God of the Bible was not too happy with Moses. At one point He desired to kill him instantly. Moses was also refused to enter the promised land. Still he reappears with Jesus.
The Law is good and a blessing to us. It convicts us about sins, and leads us to repentance and salvation in Jesus the Messiah. Amen.