The betrayal of God and justice

Right-wing politicians call on justice minister to leave coalition following London parley with Palestinian Authority leader.

Tzippi Livni do no longer serve the best interest of the state of Israel.
Tzipi Livni do no longer serve the best interest of the state of Israel.

Justice Minister Tzipi Livni (Hatnua) did not represent the State of Israel when she met in London with PA President Mahmoud Abbas, officials in Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s office told the media Saturday night.

Israel’s policy, as expressed in a government vote, is not to negotiate with a Palestinian government that is united with Hamas, a terrorist organization intent on destroying the Jewish state, Netanyahu told Livni in a message he sent to her before the Abbas meeting on Thursday.

Palestinian officials refused to comment on the London meeting. Livni’s spokeswoman could not be reached for comment. The justice minister wrote on her Facebook page about her London trip, but did not mention her conversation with Abbas.

It occurred after US Secretary of State John Kerry, who was also in London, met separately with Abbas and then with Livni.

Source: Jerusalem Post

My comment:

It is a great embarrassment for the Papacy that there is no peace agreement in place, up front of the Pontiffs “peace mission” to Jerusalem.
Roman Catholic knights like John Kerry and Tony Blair have failed to bring the Zionist government in Jerusalem into submission.

It is true that before Biblical Zionism is removed from power in Jerusalem, the last and final antichrist can not enter and established its new stronghold in the city of David.

Evangelical Friends of Israel and the Zionist settlers in Judea and Samaria are the two true lamp stands on the face of the Earth. They will eventually be removed, and badly persecuted. Just like prophesied in the Book of Revelation.

Revelation 11:4
They are ‘the two olive trees’ and the two lampstands, and ‘they stand before the Lord of the earth.’

Tzipi Livni do not represent God of Israel. She represent a global alliance of ungodly people, who will eventually hail the last and final anti-Messiah. A replacement of the true Messiah, Yeshua of Nazareth.

  2 Thessalonians 2:7
For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.

All true Messianic believers must rejoice, when we see the Prophetic Word being fulfilled.  We have almost reached the end of the age, and the last and final battle in Zion can begin.

Be careful, so that no one deceives you. Do not end up in the wrong camp.

Written by Ivar

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15 thoughts on “The betrayal of God and justice

  1. Ivar, you said, “Evangelical friends of Israel and the Zionist settlers in Judea and Samaria are the two lampstands on the face of the earth. They will eventually be removed and badly persecuted. Just like prophesied in the book of Revelation 11:4.” What you say is incorrect Ivar. Scripture clearly says these two lampstands are 2 men called the ‘two witnesses’ who will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days (3 1/2 years) clothed in sackcloth. Some teachers say they might be Moses and Elijah, or Joshua and Zerubbabel which is a typology of the type of two men who will do this. Zechariah 4 has the Vision of the Lampstand and Olive Trees. Who was Zerubbabel? A descendant of David, A leader of Jewish exiles, who bebuilds the temple. 1 Chr. 3:1-19, Neh 7:6&7, Hag 2:21-23, Ezra 3:1-10, Zech.4:1-14.

    1. Dear Nannette

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      You wrote:

      2 men called the ‘two witnesses’

      My reply:

      You say this is “two men”. The Bible say two olive trees and two lamp stands…

      1. Come on Ivar and don’t subtract from God’s word and know for certain it says more than the two witnesses are “two olive trees and two lamps stands”. Do trees and lamp stands get killed and refused burial? As it is written, “And there dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.” Revelation 11:8. Since when do trees and lamp stands have bodies? Even a fifth grader can determine these two witnesses are two men that are killed in Jerusalem and refused burial where they lay dead for 3 1/2 days and are raised afterwards when “they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them “Come up here”. Revelation 11:12. Ivar it is hard to kick against the Scriptures…when will you stop subtracting? AMEN.

      2. Dear gordon stamper

        Shalom, and love in Jesus.

        The Bible says these are two olive trees, two lamp stands, two witnesses. I do not say there there are two pieces of wood standing for the Lord in Jerusalem. I say the homecoming Jews on the Mountains of Zion are a witness do God of Israel. So do all who have been grafted into the Jewish faith, by the Messiah, Jesus of Nazareth.

        This do not fit to the doctrines of the antisemitic “Church”. There are many versions of the Replacement theology of Rome. One of the are filled with Pre-trib preachers. They reject that Jewish settlers in Judea and Samaria are true witness for the Lord.

        They cant be, according to the doctrines, originally introduced by the Jesuits.

        Because when the “Church” are taken away to celebrate the wedding party in “Heaven”, the settlers are burned with fire from heaven. They are going to be scorned in the Great Tribulation, because of their rejection of the Messiah.

        I am quite positive to Jewish settlers in Judea and Samaria. They believe in the Messiah, and they are waiting for the redeemer of Israel. I also do. But I am confident the Messiah already have been her before. That Is why I meet them, and preach the gospel to them. I have any day more in common with them, than the preachers of replacement theology.

  2. The 2 men are said to be two things. 1)olive trees, 2) lamp stands. Olive trees represent the two anointed ones who are standing by the Lord of the whole earth (Zechariah 4:11-14) Anointed means – to put oil in. Oil in the Bible is a picture of the Holy Spirit (Matthew 25). Lamp stands are what we should be. Filled with light (oil) as witnesses to the world, that Jesus Christ died for our sins. These two witnesses will be proclaiming God’s truth to a Christ rejecting world. Rev. 14:7 says they have a testimony, and Satan who comes out of the abyss will kill them. Don’t you think these two witnesses will be the ones called out by God to tell people who the anti-Christ is, as well as to communicate God’s word? They will also be killed by Satan, only to be resurrected after 3 1/2 days in front of all. Rev. 14:8&9. My study notes about Zechariah 4 says this, “Two olive branches. Better, two olive clusters. On each olive tree (v. 11) was a bunch, or cluster, of olives. Also, on the sides of the golden bowl on top of the lampstand (v.2) were two golden pipes (v. 12) turned upward, into which the two clusters of olives poured their oil ) a symbol of the Holy Spirit’s power, (v.6), which then flowed into the bowls and through the 49 pipes to the seven lamps. The two anointed ones. Lit., the two sons of oil, namely, Joshua and Zerubbabel. The point of the vision is that of light bearing, or witness. Israel is God’s witness; Joshua and Zerubbabel witnesses to His power in seeing to the completion of the Temple; and in the tribulation days two mighty witnesses will yet arise (Rev. 11:4). All true witness must be done in the power of the Spirit.” Amen

    1. Dear Nanette.

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      You wrote:

      These two witnesses will be proclaiming God’s truth to a Christ rejecting world. Rev. 14:7

      My comment:

      Again I see the Replacement theology being proclaimed. The Scriptures are twisted.

      Lets see what the scriptures says:

      Revelation 14:6-7

      6 Then I saw another angel flying in mid-air, and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on the earth – to every nation, tribe, language and people.

      7 He said in a loud voice, ‘Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water.’

      (end of scriptures).

      This is about an angle flying in mid-air. Not about the two witnesses.

      If the Holy Spirit has been removed at this point, and the witnesses gone, why is the gospel preached to “those who live on the Earth?

      They are not supposed to be lead into repentance, and into salvation. The saved “Church” is already taken away. Israel is left behind.

      The truth is that we will all be there. The true Israel of God is not taken away. They will stay put and proclaim the gospel and stand united with Israel to the very end.

  3. Ivar, I meant Revelation chapter 11, obviously, and you know it! Because that is what we are talking about, the Two Witnesses! People should have their Bibles open! Please accept my apology for the typo. Back to what you said in the beginning Ivar, it was incorrect. Your reply to Gordon says something different to your post in which you said, “Evangelical Friends of Israel & Zionist settler’s in Judea & Samaria are the two lampstands on the face of the Earth. They will eventually removed, and badly persecuted. Just like prophesied in the book of Revelation.” Question Ivar, why do you call “All pre- tribulationalists replacement theologians? The church has NOT replaced Israel like so many believe and I believe that I will not be here when God pours out His wrath. Jesus took the wrath I deserved on the cross and He did it for the Jews also! The gospel (John 3:16) is for the Jew first and also for the Greek (Romans 1:16) Praise the Lord!

    1. Dear Nannette

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      You asked:

      Why do you call “All pre- tribulationalists replacement theologians?

      My reply:

      The very idea of Israel being left behind, is obviously a theology based on the Jewish people being temporarily suspended as God’s Chosen people. And the Biblical promise of eternal love, has been transported to a people who have replaced the Jews. The people who submit to the doctrines of the “Church”.

      You wrote:

      The church has NOT replaced Israel like so many believe and I believe that I will not be here when God pours out His wrath.

      My reply:

      Oh, yes. You believe Israel will be here, and facing the wrath. In your doctrinal world, the Jews have absolutely and totally been replaced by people like you.

  4. Ivar you have your theology mixed up. You said, “In your doctrinal world, the Jews have absolutely and totally been replaced by people like you.” The Bible says, “For I do not desire, brethren that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happen to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: The deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins.” Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers.” Romans 11:25-28. “I say then, have they (the Jews) stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles.” Romans 11:13. “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes for the Jew first and also for the Greek, For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, The just shall live by faith.” Romans 1:16&17. Any Jewish person can be saved just like us. They must believe in their Messiah Jesus who has already come, and when they do, they will be raptured with us believer’s in Jesus the Messiah! Praise the Lord!

    1. Dear Nannette

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      You wrote:

      Ivar you have your theology mixed up..

      My reply:

      Well, I am not exactly alone in resisting the pre-trib doctrine. This has been the view of the classical Orthodox Baptist Church for 2.000 years.

  5. Ivar, not being alone in your belief is no excuse for your false teaching. You have a platform for your ministry in which you reach many. Teachers will we judged by God more harshly because of leading His sheep astray. Are you following a religion or Jesus, Ivar. The Bible is truth, not mans opinions! God’s word says that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles come in. This is what God says. Is he a replacement theology God? Is God a liar? Is God unfair? He has given us all the same chances. Believe in the Lord Jesus and thou shalt be saved! Saved from what? Sin and death, the wrath of God! False teachers in Israel are not sharing the gospel with the Jews. It is the same gospel that saves us all! “Moreover brethren, I (Paul) declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also you have received, and wherein you stand; By which also you are saved, if you keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless you have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.” 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

    1. Dar Nanentte.

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      You wrote:

      Ivar, not being alone in your belief is no excuse for your false teaching.

      My reply:

      My best guess is that you called me by name, and called me a false teacher. I guess we who resist the pre-trib doctrine, will be persecuted and silenced in many Churches. But if we keep silent, even the stones will start talking from the ground.

  6. Ivar, I am not talking about your pre-trib resistance. Your teaching on the two witnesses, your claiming that I and others are into replacement theology just because we believe the pre-trib view. Your above quote, “Oh yes, you believe Israel will be here, and facing the wrath. In your doctrinal world, the Jews have no absolutely and totally been replaced by people like you.” It is not my words it is Gods and you are rejecting His words, not mine. He says, through Paul, “For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. AND SO ALL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED……ect. Romans 11:25&26. Now the Apostle reveals that the future restoration of Israel is not only a possibility but is an assured fact. What Paul now reveals is a MYSTERY a truth hitherto unknown, a truth that could not be known by man’s unaided intellect, but a truth that has now been made known, Paul sets it forth so that Gentile believers will not be wise in their own opinion, looking down their nationalistic noses at the Jews. This MYSTERY is as follows: Blindness in part has happened to Israel. It has not affected all the nation, but only the UNBELIEVING segment. That blindness is temporary. It will continue only until the fullness of the Gentiles arrives. The fullness of the Gentiles refers to the time when the last member will be added to the church, and when the completed Body of Christ will be raptured home to heaven. It coincides with the Rapture. When Israel says, “blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.” will be spared to enter the kingdom. Heaven is our home! The Jews will be converted during the Tribulation. The elect remnant will not be saved until Christ returns to earth as King of kings and Lord of lords. When Paul says all Israel will be saved he means all BELIEVING Israel. (From the Believer’s Bible commentary, William MacDonald)

    1. Dear Nanette

      Shalom, and love i Jesus.

      I do not know if there is a point, in continuing this debate.

      I can not stop people, and will not stop people from preaching the pre-trib doctrine. It is by the free will of man, that he can chose to listen to whoever he desire.

      I believe in the Word of God. Also chapter 11 in the book of Revelation. A clear cut message of two lamp stands, two olive threes, two witnesses who are not attending the claimed wedding party in Heaven. But who continue to work, empowered by the Holy Spirit, present in the Great Tribulation on the face of the Earth. Inside the city of Jerusalem

      They are eventually raptured!. In the midst of the Great Tribulation…

      This is ABC in correct use of the Bible. Can not be denied, but can surely be twisted. And stuff can be added….

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