They claim to know “Jesus”, but rejects the true Messiah who won victory at the cross of Calvary in Jerusalem.
Pastor Chris Oyakhilome of the Ministry Christ Embassy is one of the master deceivers who have entered into Christianity.
He presents one of the most occult teachings on claimed to be Christian TV. He boldly announces that Christianity did not come from the victory gained by Jesus death at the cross at Calvary Hill.
Men like Oyakhilome claims that Jesus after he said “Its finished” had to be sent to Hell and be tormented by Satan.
Read more about Oyakhilome false doctrines.
Such teachers say that Jesus took Satan’s nature on the cross. Their copy of “Jesus” rose from Hell after paying for our penalty in Hell, and they try to convince us that this “resurrection” from hell was the start of Christianity.
This kind of teaching is also called “serpent theology”. In the Word of Faith Movement this doctrine is called “DTS”, or Death through Spirit. That “god” had to die spiritually on the cross. The implication of such a doctrine is horrific, and rob Jesus from His eternal not changeable divinity.
Such preachers tells us that Jesus took the nature of Satan on the cross, and that it was “a serpent”, a cursed being, who died on the cross. Jesus was no longer God, but had been rejected by His Father God. Even the Holy Spirit had moved away from Him.
This false doctrine is very similar to Nestorianism. The copy-cat Christian faith, taught by Nestorius (386 AD to 451 AD). He said that since God can not suffer, Jesus was not God on the cross. Jesus had two natures, that could be separated from each other.
Read more about this presenter of a gnostic copycat of “Jesus”
What is the truth?
If God the Father did not suffer with His Son, He would not have loved the Son at all. The Father would not be able to share in the suffering of the Messiah, and the Son’s death of the cross is in deed pointless. There is no glory at Calvary, just shame.
This kind of “Jesus” is a copy cat that was not even able to save Him self, but perished and was sent to Hell.
Jesus of the Bible warns us about such copycats. Read Isaiah 53, and you will see that it is we who considered Him stricken by God.
Isaiah 53: 4-5.
4 Surely he took up our infirmities
and carried our sorrows,
yet we considered him stricken by God,
smitten by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was upon him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
There is not a single word that even hints that the Father will reject His son. Jesus also explains to us that He gives up His life for free, a command He received from His Father.
The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”
If so: How could the Father reject a Son who did what the Father had told Him to do?
Men men Oyakhilome are liars, wolfs in sheep’s clothing.
Who else teach these doctrine taught by demons?
Most of the World of Faith teachers. Men like Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Joel Osteen and Benny Hinn. Most of the teachers who appear on TV-stations like God.tv are godless men, who will lead you astray.
Please do not entertain deceivers. Leave them.
Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.
On the cross, Jesus was glorified by the Father, and won His victory over Satan.
When had spoken these things, He lifted up His eyes to heaven and said, Father, the hour has come. Glorify and exalt and honor and magnify Your Son, so that Your Son may glorify and extol and honor and magnify You.
And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.
And after He had appeared in human form, He abased and humbled Himself [still further] and carried His obedience to the extreme of death, even the death of the cross!
For there are many, of whom I have often told you and now tell you even with tears, who walk (live) as enemies of the cross of Christ (the Anointed One).
The Father and the Son has planned the victory at the cross before the beginning of the World.
When Jesus said” Father why have you forsaken me?”: He carried all the sins of the World, the most horrible burden that no man, only God, could carry. The Son felt rejected, but was and will never be rejected by His father. The Father and Son is always and will forever be in agreement. They are One.
Psalm: 22: 22-34
I will declare your name to my people;
in the assembly I will praise you.
23 You who fear the Lord, praise him!
All you descendants of Jacob, honor him!
Revere him, all you descendants of Israel!
24 For he has not despised or scorned
the suffering of the afflicted one;
he has not hidden his face from him
but has listened to his cry for help.
The latest proof of the Word of Faith teachers apostasy, is their walk back to Rome, to support the Papacy:
Renounce these evil men. Follow Jesus the Messiah, and hold on to sound Biblical doctrines.
First published: 9th of April, 2011.
Written by Ivar
How do you interpret these words of our LORD?
Verily, verily, I say to you, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and you receive not our witness.
If I have told you earthly things, and you believe not, how shall you believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
And no man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
That whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
He that believes on him is not condemned: but he that believes not is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
For every one that does evil hates the light, neither comes to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
But he that does Truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. John 3:11-21
I am so sorry to see how you condemn many Ministers from the U.S.A,,,the Word of God teaches; Touch not my Annointed.Though you all give great information about many things,,,,I fear for your souls.
You dont understand these teachers,therefore you tear them down with your mouth.I Pray in Jesus name you repent,,,before it is too late.
Im sorry but I have waited a long time to say this to you.Please stop and reconsider
Shalom, and thanks for this comment.
I would be blessed if you would use scriptures to explain to me where I have gone astray.
Do you feel that the Bible explains that Jesus was glorified on the cross, or are you also ashamed of God Almighty who washed away your sins at the Cross with the blood of the Lamb of God, Jesus the Messiah who defeated Satan on the cross?
Im sorry but I cannot reply in detail at this time as I have just had a lower back fusion.I cannot sit too long at one time but I will be happy to discuss this in the future.Only ! because of my concern for you.Immediately following Jesus saying thou shalt do no Murder,,,He warns of causing strife amongst the brethren,,the Word of God say;You CANNOT ! say Jesus is your Lord but by the Holy Ghost. Well,,,you should listen to their confessions.They have done more to spread Gods Word around this world more than anyone I know of.Plus there are more you have cut with your words,,,,Im just saying,,,,you better be careful.
I’ll be back,,,not to fight with you but to help. Thank-you Jerry
Thanks for this reply.
I do not agree with your logic. If we look at numbers, there have never been a more righteous man than the Pope in Rome. His followers have spread all around the World, and they are today around one Billion.
Buy do they tell the truth?
In 400 A,D, there was another Church that went global. These Churches were built on Nestorianism.
While the Pope in Rome was not able to bypass Assyria, Nestorianism was a mission movement that entered as fare east as China.
The problem became obvious. Nestorius followed a false Jesus, a copy cat. 300 years later, the Nestorian Churches was gone. But the false teachings lives on. The false doctrines of the two separate natures of “Jesus”, a gnostic copy spreads like wild (false) fire inside Charismatic Pentecostal Churches.
Jesus has warned us about copy-cats. So did Paul:
2 Corinthians 11:4
For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.
Your another deceived person! i got another deceiver that you should know about Joyce Myers. if you don’t get away from the those sons and daughters of Judas your going to end up in the same place they will go if they are not given the Grace to “Repent”. HELL where the soul is NEVER quenched! READ THE BIBLE!!! you poor soul! Touch not my annoined, you don’t even know what that means. i’ll tell you…King David was annointed to be King, he never touched King Saul but that never stoped him from saying that Saul was a murder and a lier. Those people that Ivar mentioned are not annointed by G-D and neither is Joyce Myers or Marilyn Hickie they work for the Anti-christ. There is a larger PACK OF WOLVES then these “Wake UP” and ask “The LORD G-D for HELP” HE will if you are wanting The TRUTH!!!!Turn from these WICKED DECEIVERS and PRAY for SOUND DOCTRINE…PLEASE!!!
Dear Gloria J.
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
If we tell a different Gospel, we need to repent. The problem with many pastors, is that they have stopped preaching the Word of God. They tell a lot of stories, and use a Bible verse here and there. But if you go a little bit deeper, and see what kind of “Jesus” they believe in, you will be horrified.
Elijah exposed 600 prophets. He asked God of the Bible to judge them with the same measure as He judged them. Fire came down from Heaven, and God approved who was telling the truth. One truth-teller against 600 men who claimed to know “god” but walked in deception. A lie about Jesus that has been told a million times is still a lie. Even if 100 million people keeps on spreading this lie, it is still nothing but a lie.
i’m not horrified Ivar…i LAMENT! HE said in HIS Word that these thing would happen, i have so much sorrow for the unbelieving. Amen
This is very interesting that you posted this story at this time! I came into direct contact with some folks believing this stuff this week where I work. My first reaction was “that is blasphemy!” The two individuals were using Ephesians 4:8-9 to prove their point due to the phrase “lower parts of the earth.” I immediately went into research mode and within just a few hours found that this phrase used by Shaul in Ephesians was commonly used in Psalms also by King David. It is a Hebrew idiom meaning “into the womb”
Anyway – I thank you for the news story! Now I know what these folks are listening to. It is so important that we know truth so that we can recognize the lie, otherwise we will fall for and believe anything. It is too painful to watch the Church channels and Christian TV today for me. I just don’t do it. Shalom to you!
To Jerry, I want to remind of what James told us in his writings: “To him, then, who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.” James 4:17
We are to call sin – sin. Lying and Blaspheming the Name and Character of our Messiah is wrong. We are called to do good. For the end of sin is death. We should not protect the wrong by doing and saying nothing. People are being led to their death by these false teachers.
This kind of twisted Christianity has been ramping up like crazy in the last few months. As horrified as I am about it, I’m also thrilled because it tells me how close we are getting to the end.
TBN is called The Blasphemy Network for a couple of reasons, this is one of them.
(KJV) Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Tell you the truth, it’s hard to find bible-believers church in London, UK than ten years ago. Many denominations are in chaotic and preaches another ‘jesus’ which sadden me. One of London’s largest Christian store got books authored by Colin Dye, Roberts Liardon, Benny Hinn, T.D. Jakes, Marilyn Hickey, Paul and Jan Crouch, Rod Parsley, R.W. Shambach, Carlton Pearson, John Avanzinni, Kenneth & Gloria Copeland, Oral Roberts, Richard Roberts, Kenneth Hagin Sr and more. Truth is like becoming rare item buried in a large field or finding a needle in hundreds of large haystacks in today’s world. Many so-called Christians were decieved by angel of light which Satan transformed into. Even he poses as another ‘jesus’ appears and hold their hands!
We ought to pray for those souls to wake up.
Thanks for this comment. You have blessed my day. May Jesus keep on blessing you with all kinds of heavenly blessings.
You attack the annointed of God — people such as Kenneth Copeland and Creflo Dollar, whose name you cannot even spell correctly — with absolutely zero evidence or quotations from them.
You are a tool of Satan, the very tool you falsely accuse these men and women of God to be. Their ministries are filled with fruit and life. Yours? Dead.
All I can say to you is to pray that the Lord Jesus Christ make himself manifest to you and show you the grave error of your so-called God inspired revelation. Your error is obvious and easily discerned by anyone led of the Holy Spirit. You’ve heard of the Holy Spirit right? Or is that part of the gnostic teaching as well, in your sick opinion?
Dear The Truth.
Shalom, and thanks for all kinds of comments.
That you feel I am a tool for Satan, is something I can live with. I do not need approval of any man.
This is a Bible study that you might find useful. Let me know what you think.
I re-read your accusations and, again, not one recording or tape of the ministers saying what you claim they are saying.
Produce the evidence. I challenge you to post the videos. You’ve heard of YOUTUBE, right?
Produce the evidence.
I know you cannot, because you are merely a deceiver and a master of misdirection. Just because YOU say they stand for these things does not make it true.
The word says to judge and discern the spirit. I judge you a charlatan and a false teacher. I challenge you to prove me wrong.
PRODUCE THE RECORDINGS OR THE VIDEO RIGHT HERE. RIGHT NOW!
I remind you, by the way, that leading the faithful astray will earn you special recognition at the judgment. It’ll get you a nice eternal vacation in a very HOT climate.
Another one of the sheep who elevate the men they admire, above God’s Word.
The bible is written in a certain way, so that those not chosen will not see or hear the truth because they don’t really desire the truth, but only desire to hear what they want to hear.
Mat 13:13 “Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.”
As Walid Shoebat frequently says, “it’s so the damned won’t get it” That paraphrases it perfectly.
When you see Jesus, Ivar, you’d change your mind… ha ha ha, i wonder how u’d think in heaven when u realize u had been wrong all the while. u see why you can’t make progress in ministry? because your ministry is based on tarnishing the image of fellow brethren and that is not borne out of love. You need a mentor, i doubt you have one that is why you are acting this way against brethren.
Shalom, and welcome with a comment.
I will suggest you use scriptures. Jesus warns us against false teachers and false prophets. Even enemies of the cross. People preaching a different “Jesus” and a “different gospel”.
Who are they?
Should we all keep quiet, and let the wolfs enter into our camps?
Dear The Truth.
Shalom, and welcome to this site:
Lets first take a look at the ‘jesus” promoted by Kenneth Copeland.
– Copeland teaches, as do all the Word-Faith teachers, that “Jesus Died Spiritually” (JDS). What makes the Word-Faith teachers’ version of JDS, heresy (if not blasphemy), is their teaching that our redemption comes not from Christ’s death upon the cross, but from His being tortured by Satan in hell for three days and nights! Copeland has, thus, embraced a heresy known as the “Ransom theory of the atonement.
” It is the view that Christ’s death was a ransom paid to Satan to settle the legal claim the devil had on the human race because of Adam’s sin.
But that view contradicts the clear Biblical teaching that Christ’s death was a sacrifice offered to God, not to Satan (Eph. 5:2) (Charismatic Chaos , p. 278). Copeland, for example, says:
“He allowed the devil to drag Him into the depths of hell as if He were the most wicked sinner who ever lived … Every demon in hell came down on Him to annihilate Him … [They] tortured Him beyond anything that anybody has ever conceived …
In a thunder of spiritual force, the voice of God spoke to the death-whipped, broken, punished spirit of Jesus … [in] the pit of destruction, and charged the spirit of Jesus with resurrection power! Suddenly His twisted, death-wracked spirit began to fill out and come back to life … He was literally being reborn before the devil’s very eyes. He began to flex His spiritual muscles … Jesus Christ dragged Satan up and down the halls of hell … Jesus … was raised up a born-again man … The day I realized that a born-again man had defeated Satan, hell, and death, I got so excited … !” (Believer’s Voice of Victory , September, 1991).
Dear The Truth.
Lets also take a look at what kind of “Jesus” that made Benny Hinn “born again”.
“Had the Holy Spirit not been with Jesus, He would have sinned” (Good Morning Holy Spirit, first edition, 1990, p135);
“Jesus knew the only way He would stop Satan is by becoming one in nature with him” (Benny Hinn, TBN, 15th December 1990).
“Before He died, I should say, on that cross, something happened to Him which began the wheels of the New Creation moving that was this: He died spiritually! …Jesus Christ understood that spiritual death is union with the satanic nature. …What is spiritual death? Separation from God” (New Creation in Christ sermon, late 1988).
Jesus Became One In Nature With Satan
– “Jesus knew the only way He would stop Satan is by becoming one in nature with him … He became one with the nature of Satan, so all those who had the nature of Satan can partake of the nature of God. Benny Hinn, TBN, 15th December 1990).
Jesus Died Spiritually
– “Before He died, I should say, on that cross, something happened to Him which began the wheels of the New Creation moving that was this: He died spiritually! …Jesus Christ understood that spiritual death is union with the satanic nature.” (New Creation in Christ sermon, late 1988).
Jesus Was Born Again In Hell – “Jesus was born again [in hell]” (Our Position in Christ#1, 1991, audio-tape).
I guess you get to call whom you want a deceiver and a liar? You also get to call this doctrine false? But you reprimand me and tell not to call Calvinism false?
But you reprimand me and tell not to call Calvinism false?
Do I have to defend all of Lutheranism to brand it correct?
And if I disagree with some of the teachings of Martin Luther, shall i renounce Lutheranism as false?
The same questions applies to John Calvin.
I feel you are to quick to jump to conclusions, and are not able to agree that you sometime will HAVE to disagree with other Christians. We can simply not agree on absolutely everything. We have to be honest, and admit that only Jesus is the truth, and has never said anything wrong.
Victoria and Ivar are both fallible in our understanding of the scriptures.
I am surprised and disappointed that people calling themselves Christian,are arguing over and fighting over differing points of view.I have often listened to the various ministers of religion that you mention,and have had my spirit lifted and refreshed by the encouraging and beautiful messages that they often convey.
I like to read the news items that you send to me,but mostly form my own interpretations of what they imply as I mostly find your comments judgemental and harsh.there seems to be intense hatred expressed at times.I believe God to be a God of truth,but most of all a God of compassion and love,who admonished us to “Judge not lest ye be judged”.
However we all can only try our best to do what is right and pray that God sheds light and furthers our understanding.
Thank you for the articles and all the best.
In the past 24 hours you have had conversations with several people. These conversations are not going well.
You are stirring up division and strife by repeatedly posting argumentative comments.
I am afraid this is your last warning, otherwise you will be spammed until you can debate with love and grace.
To write “hahahaha”…”God Bless” is very mocking, Victoria and is not written in a loving spirit.
Dear all readers.
The News That Matters team have decided to spam Victoria. The reason is that over time we have seen that this person have come to NTM, only to end up in endless quarrel.
Please enjoy this site of free and fair debate. Conduct your self. Admit that there are issues that are debatable, and that Christians sometimes have to just agree that we disagree.
Dear Elisabeth Cotter.
Shalom, and welcome to this site.
I agree with you. I regret that I also have been to quick to judge people I do not know. Jesus warns us not to judge people, beyond the measure we our self will be judge by Him. If I call a man a false teacher, Jesus will surely scrutiny my own teaching.
I will be more careful using the false teacher label, but rather give statements about serious disagreements. Still we have to willing to admit, that some people promote doctrines taught by demons. We must be allowed to use this scripture, and even give examples of such false teachings.
Dear Elisabeth Cotter.
You wrote: “Judge not lest ye be judged”.
The issues of not passing judgment, can be misunderstood to be “do not take a stand against wrongs”. We do have judges and they are supposed to pass correct and wise judgments.
What Jesus is trying to tell us, is that first take a look in the mirror. Do not pas judgment on others, that you can not implement in your own life.
“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
If we are good shepherds of the flock, we will surely have to rebuke and correct wrongs. We will also have to keep the wolfs away from the flock. If we do not, we disobey our Master.
You are welcome, Ivar. I strongly believe you are speaking the truth and Jesus inspires you to preach the gospel. Lamb of God bless you.
Two websites which clearly explains how Satan set up false Christianity, it’s worth to have a look. They exposed lots of false prophets.
1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Just want to share my experience with all of you. Last April ’10 my muslim friend and I jogged in the large park, we rested on the bench. He prayed direct to “allah” and then he said unto me, ‘I feel spirit is like flowing inside of my body’ – I was gobsmacked because at past, I went to Kensington Temple which belongs to the Elim Pentecostal Church led by Colin Dye, christian woman admitted she felt like spirit showers and flowing down and up inside of her body. Those two persons experienced EXACTLY same even muslim guy don’t believe in Jesus Christ as Son of God! I felt sick that Satan can deceive christians by rely on “feel good” instead of study the Word of God.
1 John 4:1 warns us about many false prophets and ought to test the spirits if it’s from God or not. Please correct me if I type wrong, thanks.
Hello writer you have failed, because these men of God are real, try others. You better be careful.
Well done on this ‘Faith’ topic ivarfjeld!! The wicked always stir when the nest is disturbed, just like hornets. People should read Heb 8-11 – it is ALL Blood Atonement. And as for those who claim these are ‘real men of God’, how sad you are blind. It appears that Jesus words apply ‘Why is my language not clear to you? It is because you are of your father the devil.’ You do not understand His Words.
ivarfjeld May I suggest that you change the title from ‘within Christianity’ to ‘claiming to be Christian’ – because by denying the basics of Christianity, they put themselves outside. We cannot give them any credence whatsoever.
Fuck you!!you don know what you sayin…you just a hypocrite…. ….better leave the men of God alone….
Fuck you ivar!! you don know what u sayin….you just a hypocrite…better leave de men of God alone or else fire wil come down from heaven n consum u.
Thank you for writing this comment. It proves the demonic nature of this kind of false Christianity, and that my article hit the nail on the head.
Let me also remind you, that filthy language is not permitted on this site.
May Jesus drive the unclean spirit out of your heart today, and make you stop following a copycat “messiah”. Amen.
Fuck you ivar!! you don know what u sayin….you just a hypocrite…better leave de men of God alone or else fire wil come down from heaven n consum u.
Forgive me for insultin you n th good news is God has already forgiven me accordin to His Eternal Holy Word(1John1:9). But also if your a Christian wc you claim you are you ought to exercise this fruit of th Holy Ghost wc is temperanc.lastly, my prayer for you is that my Lord Jesus Christ who is seated at the right hand of God may enlighten th eyes of your understandin &grant unto you the spirit of wisdom & rev€lation in th knowl€dg of Him. God b£ess yöü
Romans 6:1 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?
Ivar is just pointing out errors of those who call themselves Christians. But You act like Jesus made everything ok and these people are above criticism or condemnation. Scriptures disagree with you.
Jude 1:4 For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.
Then again you may be right Bromaxy. It goes on to describe those people as grumblers and faultfinders who find fault in others to make themselves look good. Better is the man who calls himself a sinner than calls others sinners.
Jude 1:16 These men are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage.
for those who began these insults against men of God,
1. do you have Jesus in your life? you cannot defend someone you dont know. you might think you are pleading Jesus’ cause but you are only destroying youself. and at Judgment, there will be no excuse.
2. since you have taken it up to try to destroy the credibility of these men of God, ask youself,SINCE YOU ARE THE RIGHTEOUS ONE KNOWING THE ‘TRUTH’ HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE YOU LED TO CHRIST? HOW MANY EYES HAVE YOU OPENED? HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE WALKED BECAUSE OF A MIRACLE GOD WORKED THROUGH YOU? HOW MANY DEMONS HAVE BEEN CAST OUT BY YOU? Jesus said greater signs than these shall ye do… how many ‘small’ signs have you done how much more great signs?
3. by your articles you show no one’s shame but yours and manifestly too. in scaterring how many have you gathered?
You do not know God. You do not know Christ. You do not have the anointing.
the sooner you keep quiet the better, what you do not understand carry the bible, open it and read it.
if you do not trust these men of GoD AT LEAST YOU SHOULD TRUST THE BIBLE. OR DONT YOU TRUST THE BIBLE?
NO ONE CAN FIGHT WITH THE BIBLE. YOU CAN TALK AND TALK BUT TRUTH IS TRUTH.
I AM NOT DEFENDING ANY BODY’S CAUSE , BECAUSE THE MEN OF GOD ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
It is the cause of your condemend self that i am fighting for.
When you open the bible to read, talk the father saying
“Father, I know taht by your Holy Spirit you wrote the bible. Teach me and guide me into its truth. in Jesus name. Amen”
God does not lie. And if he leads you alongside as he has led these great men of God, dont be too proud to admit your mistake. Get on your knees and ask for forgiveness.
God loves you too much. But believe me, HE CAN WATCH YOU DIE IN YOUR SINS.
Does that sound like the God you know? Christianity is not logic. assumption and critical thinking.
Without the Holy Spirit you have no christianity.
Help yourself before THE DEVIL HELPS YOU DESTROY YOURSELF.
You said: for those who began these insults against men of God
My Comment: the bible tell us to: 1 John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Jesus would not have told us not to, if there weren’t to be any men who would use the world to deceive.
Please see my comment below. I was taken to Heaven to see Jesus Christ face to face in my salvation. That makes me “apostolic”. I pray in the name of Jesus and people are saved, healed and delivered… speak with new tongues… devils are cast out. I teach people the sound doctrines of the grace of God and the Sovereignty of God… and they literally receive me as an apostolic teacher. They rise up in the Spirit of God, as they learn submission and subjection to God by grace through faith… and worship of God as God in the honor due His name… and they arise in anointing to cast out devils and pray seeing instant miraculous healings… winning souls… and signs and wonders even beyond these. And… they give all glory to God… because man is nothing…a nd they know it through sound doctrine. God alone does all of these things through His servants… who are saved by grace alone.
Anyway, for you to believe that Spirit-filled Christians “go along” with this Word of Faith apostasy… no we do not!! We are mightily anointed by the true Holy Spirit in the name of the true Jesus of scripture who is GOD!! ~ and we preach and speak the true gospel of salvation through Jesus Christ alone… who was fully God in Spirit and fully man according to the flesh His entire human lifetime and that without sin!!
These apostates are manifesting the spirit of the devil!! I saw this “Pastor Chris” and was disgusted by the display of the spirit of the devil that he said was the “Holy Ghost”.
I am moving right now… in response… to release ANATHEMA to him… and in the name of Jesus Christ… if God permits me to rebuke him int he name of Jesus to His face… and he falls down before me as Ananias and Sapphira did before Peter… this would be to God’s glory and I would appreciate it if God would so honor me. And that’s how I ended up at this site… because I saw so much demonic power moving in his meeting… didn’t know his doctrine… but thought he must be a Word of Faith apostate… just checking.
The real apostolic opposes such wolves as these!
Are you a real Christian?? This man denies the Deity of Jesus Christ. And if you are a real Christian, discipleship to Jesus Christ demands that you reject this man completely declaring him to be a false Christian. (Trying to say that we who object are not Spirit-filled and lack real power of the Holy Spirit… I am just testifying… is not true!)
Hebrews 7:16 (KJV) who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
Hebrews 7:16 NIV) one who has become a priest not on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry but on the basis of the power of an indestructible life.
Hebrews 9:14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Jesus Christ as God took on flesh to be made a man. He was fully God and fully man. He secured our redemption and salvation by taking sin upon Himself according to His flesh dying to the flesh. Yes, on the cross, His soul was separated from God as He took our sins upon Himself though He had never sinned.
His inward Spirit Being is/was the Spirit of God. The Spirit in Him as God was the Spirit of Life, Indestructible Life, Endless Life, the Eternal Spirit.
It is not possible for God, who is Spirit, to die spiritually. Rather, Jesus merely died a death according to the flesh. His body did not see decay. He remained in 100% full victory the entire 3 days.
Jesus never died spiritually – He is God and the Spirit of God is Life… and cannot die. Only His human level body and soul suffered while He was on the cross and took our sins upon Himself drinking the full cup of God’s wrath on sin. He descended into hell from the cross… and all was finished when Jesus Christ said it was finished.
To say that Jesus Christ died spiritually is apostasy.
Not heresy. Apostasy.
It is a denial of the Spirit of God of Jesus as God the Son who is the Life as God: Endless/Indestructible Life by power of His Eternal Spirit as God.
We all as humans have a “spirit man”. We are created beings. Jesus Christ is God and the Life Giving Spirit Himself as God who is Life – Endless Life.
The Life Giving Spirit… did not die in His Spirit! God did not die in His Spirit! Jesus Christ only died in the flesh on the “man side” that was flesh!
Jesus Christ was fully man according to His flesh.
Jesus Christ was fully God according to His Spirit!!
The body of Jesus Christ not seeing decay shows clearly that Jesus Christ never died spiritually, never in His Spirit became Satan! Jesus Christ is God! God didn’t become Satan in His Spirit on the cross! Apostasy!!
Jesus was NOT UNDER THE POWER OF SATAN FOR THE 3 DAYS HIS BODY WAS DEAD… IT’S OBVIOUS BECAUSE HIS BODY DID NOT SEE DECAY and He was in Paradise with the thief on His right the day of His death.
Jesus Christ is the LIFE – ENDLESS LIFE – INDESTRUCTIBLE LIFE… LIFE THAT CAN NEVER DIE!! HE IS GOD THE ETERNAL SPIRIT!!
These apostates deny the Deity of the Lord Jesus Christ on every level… saying He died spiritually on the cross.. . went to hell… and was not fully God in Spirit as a man (separate and distinct from all mankind and angels as Creator is separate and distinct from created beings!!)
This is apostasy… these people are not Christians… they are preaching an entirely different religion and different Jesus Christ.
It is part of the great falling away.
Thank you, Ivar for your obedience and courage to post the truth. I followed the word of faith movement for years. I life changing event in my life woke me up from my sleep. I almost lost everything that I love that year. I am grateful to God for awakening my spirit to the truth. Now I am free. It wasn’t an easy process, but I am so glad that God loved me enough to keep me through it. If it weren’t for that experience , I would still be there. Freedom is good!!!
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
The Word of Faith movement has elements of truth as their doctrines. But they are still heretics. If all was wrong, no one would be decieved.
It is true, that I have to have faith to please God. But not faith in my self, or my own faith. I need to have faith in His Son, Jesus of Nazareth. The Word of God “does not work” when you have “enough faith”. The Word of God testify about the Messiah. When we pray according to His will, He acts. And believe me: He is good. He has all powers in Heaven and Earth.
To the person that wrote this article on Pastor Chris as a false teacher, pastor Chris is not my pastor , but this is what I know. I don’t think that you are any better. If Jesus took our place, to me he become sin on that cross. everything that represents darkness was upon him that day on the cross. He did go to heel and fought Satan and took the keys of death out of Satan’s hands. In order for us human to be free, Jesus had to become us. He was indeed dead in the spirit on that cross , because he was separated from God at that moment. Didn’t the Bible says in John 12:24 that” Verily, verily , I say unto you, except a grain of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it dies, it bringeth forth much fruit. Jesus was resurrected as a born again, the Bible says in Colossians 1:18″ And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the FIRSTBORN from among the DEAD, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. So the Bible calls us dead, and it clearly says that Jesus was the first born again. And to me only those who have died that can be reborn in the spirit . Because we are not talking about physical death here, but death in the spirit. So Jesus was dead in the spirit on that cross in other for him to be born again, to be the first born among the dead.
Jesus fought the devil , it’s in the Bible. The person who wrote this is the one that needs spiritual insights. D’ONT use your intelligence to interpret the word of God. Instead of criticizing , why don’t you pray for God to ENLIGHTEN you. I always wonder why the so called men of God always bring other men of God down , don’t we supposed to be working with one spirit. The church of Jesus Christ and his spirit is not about confusion. So if you know better, why don’t you teach him and pray for him, instead of calling him all this names. No wonder the church is powerless . There is no unity in the body, too much hate, jalousie and division in the church. Because of people like you. Many are turning away from the faith , because they are confused, when they see men of God fight , insulting and bringing each other down. So please you need to repent.
Dear Chantal Okelola
Shalom and praise Jesus.
Since Jesus warns us about false teachers and prophets, we need to have an open and honest debate around this topic. A Church who do not take these warnings seriously, will be open to all kinds of religious falsehood in the name of the Messiah.