Eucharistic Miracles or Demonic Deceptions?

The Catholic Church claims that the many Eucharistic miracles are proof that the bread (of the Lord’s supper) is turned into the Lord’s actual body, blood, soul, and divinity.

A so-called “miracle” that took place in 2005 in Naju after these two hosts apparently were suspended in mid-air by themselves and when they dropped to the floor, were bloody.

This is not an easy article for me to write for several reasons. Number one, because I was an avid Eucharist-adorer/believer. I used to think these miracles were proof the Catholic Church was true and that when I received communion, I ate God, just as the Church told me. Secondly, doing research to find these images leave me feeling physically ill and nauseated. Something I thought was the ultimate in holiness is akin to some kind of demonic cannibalistic  witch craft.

How many of you Catholics reading this article would be willing to eat the hosts in the above picture? Something inside you says NO. Yet, every week, or day if you are a daily Mass goer, you are , according to the Catholic Church, eating Christ’s flesh.

Through the centuries, the Roman Church has proclaimed these miracles. During the  Inquisition, Christians who refused to bow down and worship and then eat the hosts were burnt at the stake. Interestingly enough, in recent years the Roman Catholic Church is pushing Eucharistic worship along with the New Evangelization. The New Evangelization is a new plan to take back “Catholic” countries for the Catholic Church and promote Eucharisitic worship and amazement. Pope John Paul II said:

“The Year of the Eucharist has its source in the amazement with which the Church contemplates this great Mystery. It is amazement which I myself constantly experience . . .” (Mane Nobiscum, 29)

Pope John Paul II spoke of rekindling the amazement of the Eucharist. He also called Catholic Mary “Mother of the Eucharist.”

I do not like looking through these images. For me, it is a past full of idolatry. It is important for me to show you more of these ‘miracles.’  This next photo is extremely disturbing and demonic, however well documented:

Julia Kim of Naju, Korea. The Eucharist turns to “flesh” in her mouth routinely . She is well known as a holy “mystic.”
Bishop Gatti who consecrated the bloody host, also ate it and described his feelings after ingesting the flesh.

The Bishop stated:

Receiving the Holy Communion I have enjoyed the sweet taste of Jesus blood and I felt a strong heat and intense scent that invaded my inside. With this latest great Eucharistic miracle God put his seal on all the precious miracles that were refused by the great men of the Church, who claimed to know the name of priest who had consecrated the hosts of Jesus. Our Lady, the saints and angels brought into the thaumaturgical place, including the numerous hosts that poured blood.

One of the more disturbing  “miracles” shown below, may cause you to get sick. It shows flesh pulsating in a glass monstrance,  pulsating, oozing and squirming in the glass. It resides in Venezuela:

A dear friend of mine has recently left Catholicism. I write this for her and for all Catholics. This act of cannibalism is un-godly. It is idolatry. It is unclean. When I look at these images my insides revolt and I want to turn away. You must know and see what Catholicism teaches. They teach that when you eat the Lord’s supper you are eating real flesh and blood and that is how you have “life within you.”Pope Benedict has stated that those who do not participate in the Eucharist are not real Christians.Those truly born again can not imagine bowing before bread. They can not imagine that the Lord, sitting at the right hand of the Father, on command of the Catholic Priest could be contained into a piece of bread to be locked in a box. A piece of bread which can corrode and rot if not eaten in time.Acts 2:27because you will not abandon me to the grave, nor will you let your Holy One see decay.

Acts 7:47

However, the Most High does not live in houses made by men.

(end of scripture)

Despite these scriptures and the fact there is one incarnation seated at the right hand of the Father, the Roman Catholic Church says the opposite and those who do not believe it are anathema. Jesus said He was the vine and that he was the door. Did He ask His followers to gnaw on flesh in a sort of Cannibalism to find life everlasting? Or did He ask us to feed on the Word instead?

Matthew 4:4

Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'”

First published December 10th, 2011.

Written by Sue


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165 thoughts on “Eucharistic Miracles or Demonic Deceptions?

  1. I am speechless. I honestly feel like vomiting. These images are extremely disturbing.

    Their ugliness are proof of their own that Jesus is NOT present and proves falseness of This RC teaching that the host is “Christ’s Body and Blood” (CCC, 1333).

    Thank you Lord Jesus, for opening my eyes
    & heart, to choose to serve only You & please bless those who write on this site. Lord Jesus, You have worked through the writers of this site to help me to see your truth, to turn from idolatry & to find joy & beauty in You & Your Word. Protect the writers!
    There are many who will not like this article.

      1. As disgusting as they are…to me it is imperative that these pictures and more like them, what the Catholic ‘leaders’ have and do, should be shown World Wide..so all can see the lunacy and derlick behavior of a group of people who are leading millions to the Gates of Hell while they pillage and plunder their life as well as their finances in the guise they are ‘Peter’s replacement on Earth’….How insane…they’d do well to hold onto ‘both ears’ if Peter really got near them!!! (smile) This whole cult religion got started by a man who could not give up his lust for sex (with women) supposedly by his own admitting then raising his own Mother as “The Mother of Christ’…putting statues of her venerating her all thru his own life. What a sick and twisted religion…the other Denominations (yes all of them) fell away in one form or another from what Jesus and His Disciples taught…because they themselves refused to admit they did not and could not ‘abide’ by what Jesus taught..FACT…even today it’s a rancid show of arrogance of all of them…When I was little if you belonged to ‘any other’ than what your parents were…you were going to Hell…Well in one respect that saying is appropriate. And I am not afraid to say it in public…to anyone..If anyone has rejected the Lord Jesus Christ and “HIS” Gospel…they will go to Hell..Plain and simple..if they repent and believe HIS Gospel..they will be with Him…That’s His Word and I stick by that only..all the rest of the Mambie-Pansies who preach tolerance, etc to ‘not offend them’..but rather let them do as they please..they better get off that fence real quick for it is about to turn into a Razor Blade…and Believe me according to The Word of God..this World has not seen what is about to come nor will it ever see it again…Please don’t be stupid..Turn to Jesus…HE really is the ONLY WAY..I don’t care what Pharaoh and his cohorts say…they can build church’s, temples and mosques and all manner of altar worshiping traps to entice people..to make a false peace..(to lure the unsuspecting into a Spider’s Web of Deceit ..it still leads to HELL…Think about it…Jesus said if it were not for the Elects Sake even they’d be deceived…MY God..this ‘thing is no joke’..folks…no place of debate..it’s our Eternal Destiny…I try to tell all but I see daily people looking at me like they are a deer in headlights..or they are highly offended…I’d question their salvation..I’m not questioning it…it is not there to question…We better question our own..less we too be found wanting…Only leaning and trusting in The LORD JESUS CHRIST…The Risen Lord… can we be saved from the Tribulation, and The Wrath of God…some think they are one in the same..it’s not..Jesus plainly tells us Satan is given power to ‘over come’ the saints..if you are as old as I am you’d remember the many times that scripture has been altered to fit the message of the today..to not offend..yet ..Well I’ve written enough..I’m sure that there are many in this group that knows this truth and may say it more eloquently than I …I just know in whom I trust and I know His Voice..I pray that all who read this may also be that confident in Jesus….The Glorious Lord and Savior..

      2. Trying to reply to Andrea, but doesn’t have the option.. What is she speaking of? That the Virgin Mary, Mother of Jesus, was made so by a ‘man’ that, by his own admission, had a taste for women, and raised his mother to the Mother of Jesus.. Hunh! Jesus never had a women problem/ lust, nor ever ‘admitted’ such.. That is blasphemy. It is God that chose Mary, & Mary’s free will choice to say the most important Yes ever uttered! God raised her to be the Mother of Jesus! For, scripture even gives her this title when Our beautiful Mary visited her cousin Elizabeth (whom, was pregnant w/ John the Baptist), & Elizabeth says “Who am I that the MOTHER of My LORD should come visit me.?.”, this ‘Lord’, in native writing, is the same Lord as used w/ God..

        And though Jesus commanded us to EAT His Flesh & Drink His Blood, as He IS the Living Manna that came down from Heaven, & whom so ever obeys will have eternal life. But, we must stop thinking of it as human minds.. For Jesus ISO the Paschal Lamb, & on that 1st Passover (& every year since, in remember acne) the Jews not only had to mark their home w/ the Lamb’s Blood (I.e. Our own Bodies), but had to eat of the Paschal Lamb, for the Angel of death to pass over them, & Live..

        That said.. There are questions regarding the one Asian lady w/ what appears to be the Consecrated Host bleeding.. She does not have Church approval, from what I can find..

        But, who are we to think we can fully understand, or to question God when He commands.?. READ the Church Fathers, & truly read the Bible w/ a good Catholic commentary, as well as get a Catechism of the Catholic Church (free online). To reject God’s Church, is to reject God. His Catholic Church is His Body, why do you still persecute Him :(..???..

    1. You are ignorant! Jesus himself said that who do not eat his flesh and drink his blood will not have life with him. He talked about his flesh been true food and his blood true drink several times and his disciples did not understand and abandoned Him, only the 12 remained. If you find disgusting is because you have no part with Jesus. To think that God would not come from above to be eaten is heresy and pride, God does not act according to men’s thinking, He chose the most humble way to be born, He chose the most cruel and humiliating death for love of His sinful creatures. Go and ask for the grace of the Holly Spirit before you go to the devil’s arms.

      1. Amen!! The TRUTH is the TRUTH!!! The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ Himself!! He is the Passover Lamb! When I read this article I feel evil, and not from the photos of the Eucharistic Miracles, but from the author and commenters who agree with this article. John 6:51-59. Jesus states 9 times HE is the bread of Life. You doubt Him?? He lied?? After these statements made by Jesus Himself, some left him in disgust, LIKE THE AUTHOR OF THIS ARTICLE!!!

    2. Also read the early Christian writings to see what they believed the Holy Eucharist was.. For how can we make judgement upon ourselves for not discerning and partaking of just normal bread.?. Jesus is very clear about this, as were the Apotles, and the earliest Christians.. He is spiritual food, and our Passover Lamb. Just as the Jews had to consume the sacrificial lamb’s meat for the spirit of death to pass over, Jesus commands the same of us. You must not look at it w/ human senses, but spiritual. And even if it is still difficult to understand at the moment, TRUST God. Be obedience t to God. He told us very clearly, don’t be one of those followers that left Jesus in John 6:51-59 because you are confused.. Be faithful and trust in God, so you may have eternal life.

      You do not want to be one at the gate crying to our Lord saying “Jesus, you know me, I called your name, I prophecized and taught in Your Name”… And Jesus says, “I do not know you”.

      1 Corinthians 11:26-29
      ” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the death of the Lord until he comes.
      Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord A person should examine himself, and so eat the bread and drink the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself.”

      John 6:51-59
      ” I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.”
      The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?” Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me. This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever.” These things he said while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum.
      The Words of Eternal Life”

      1. Amen! The fullness of the Catholic Church is Jesus Christ as HE instituted it. Over 2,000 history, do these people really believe Jesus Christ would lead HIS Church astray???

  2. It’s amazing just how demented these cults can go…all of them…from those who claim God used the Gifts of The Spirit to ‘jump start’ the Church anything to deny the power of God but try to prove they are the power and ultimate solution to Peace on Earth with all men…to these demonic cults who just fall in line with Brother Jude …Ungodly, Ungodly Ungodly…in the later days…

  3. First off!!!

    He was the Word that spoke it;
    He took the bread and broke it;
    and what that Word did made it;
    I do believe and take it

    The passover lamb was representative of Jesus Christ.
    The Last Supper was done in rememberance of the body and blood of Christ and is where Jesus assigned the meaning of the bread and wine.

    Symbols are very powerful reminders of events and concepts. The Lord used them throughout the OT in the rituals and ordinances performed. Jews were no stranger to symbolic and metphoric meanings.

    Now Really? Again,where does Jesus say: THIS represents or is a symbol of my body and blood? John’s Gospel Chapter 6, does not suggest a symbol. Simply listen to Jesus say:

    “For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed” (John 6:55). He continues: “As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me” (John 6:57). The Greek word used for “eats” (trogon) is very blunt and has the sense of “chewing” or “gnawing.” This is not the language of metaphor!

    Really? St.Paul sure differs with your LDS belief.

    Paul wrote to the Corinthians: “The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ?” (1 Cor. 10:16). So when we receive Communion, we actually participate in the body and blood of Christ, not just eat symbols of them. Paul also said, “Therefore whoever eats the bread and drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. . . . For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself” (1 Cor. 11:27, 29).

    “To answer for the body and blood” of someone meant to be guilty of a crime as serious as homicide. How could eating mere bread and wine “unworthily” be so serious? Paul’s comment makes sense only if the bread and wine became the real body and blood of Christ. Pretty harsh words for something so symbolic.

    Likewise,early church does not support your position,it is all a novelty a symbolic Eucharist.

    BTW: How ironic to believe Jesus is God and Creator,yet God is not capable nor is it POSSIBLE, giving us His Body and Blood in two simple elements: bread and wine. How arrogant.

  4. So, what makes a miracle a miracle? My assumtion is if it only actually happens in the eyes of a few people, then it is a vision. If it happens in the eyes of the entire world, then it is a miracle.

    Let me elaborate. If Jesus turned water into wine, but only a few people saw it was wine, that would be an illusion right? Or if God split the sea in half, and people walked into it and drowned, then it would have been an illusion. Or if the star that the 3 kings followed, only was to be seen by them, it would be an illusion.

    RIGHT???? Those are miracles right? Because they really occurred. Physically. If only a few people experienenced those miracles, they wouldnt really have happened right? they would be illusion.. Right?

    First of all, miracle does not have to have entire world to see in order to consider it as miracle. How many times have you heard any story in which a very sick person was miraculously cured with no medical explanation? If this is not miracle, what do you consider it? a vision? no!

    If you don’t want to hear from what the church say, then you can look at the fruit of this miracle/visions produce. If Satan can lure us, how long this miracle/visions last? Would God allow Satan to go that far to steal souls from those of the faithful ones – those who Love Virgin Mary, those who love the communion between Heaven and Earth. I don’t think so.

    Many non-Catholic Christians believe that Virgin Mary’s appearances are demonic, but look at the fruits it has been producing? How many people got cured physically and spiritually? Thousands of people are turning to God each day. Do you think Satan want to have this happen. If he even does, how long do you think he stand it with his lie and seeing many people are back to God?

    1. Dear Sue.

      Shalom.

      I feel this is an excellent article.

      The blood of Jesus was shed in Jerusalem 2.000 years ago. The Roman Catholics belongs to the only cult who claim the blood is physically present on Earth, in the Eucharist. Their “Jesus” ins physically present in bread and blood, truly an act of canabalism.

      The use of physical blood is central in the act of worship within witchcraft.

      Can there be any better example that the RCC Eucharist?

      1. Dear Ivar,

        Thanks you for your kind words. The photos are very hard to look at.
        I think it will be food for thought for those participating in the Mass.

      2. No, but I dare say that just as no one counterfeits pennies, Satan does not counterfeit things that are worthless. Cannibalism and witchcraft are counterfeit Eucharists. The Eucharist is the work of the Living God, and cannibalism is the Satanic imitation. Cannibals eat dead flesh; we eat the Bread of Life. Cannibals cut up a dead man, but Christ is not divided nor diminished by the breaking of His Body, for each Particle and Droplet of the Precious Body and Blood of Christ is the whole Christ, and thus equal to the entire Loaf and Cup.

      3. Dear Ivarfjeld,

        ou are I should like to point out wrong here. The Oriental and Eastern Orthodox also of course believe in the Eucharist having a physical reality as do some other Churches such as the Assyrian Church of the East. I suspect however those Churchs are beneath the radar so to speak with regards to this website.

      4. Dear Marcus James Murphy

        Shalom.

        The Assyrian Church of the East had nothing in the liturgy, calling their members to eat physical flesh and drink physical blood. They taught abut the “mysterious presence of Christ”.

        The leadership of the Assyrian Church of the East signed a compromise with Rome as late as 2001.

        The doctrine of drinking literal blood was a New Age doctrine that entered into the Roman Catholic Church in the dark ages.

        The Fourth Council of the Lateran, which convened beginning November 11, 1215, spoke of the bread and wine as “transubstantiated” into the body and blood of Christ:

      5. Wrong, sir. The Roman Catholics, the Eastern Rite Catholics, the Greek Orthodox, the Russian Orthodox, the Armenian Orthodox, the Malabar Church of India, the Episcopal Church, the Maronite Catholic Church, the Igreja Lusitana of Portugal, the Nippon Seiko Kai of Japan, the Lutheran Church of Sweden, the Igreja Episcopal do Brasil, the Church of England… I could go on and on, but won’t. ALL of these Churches believe that Christ Jesus is actually present in the Eucharist– that when He said “This is my Body…”, “This is my Blood…” He was not lying to His disciples. In fact, all those people are in good company: both Martin Lutheran and John Calvin believed in Transubstantiation. It only a minority of “Christians” (like the author of this blog) who refuse to believe Christ when He spoke this plainly. (In fact, this is s really new heresy– Christianity is more than 2000 years old, but this kind of heresy was unknown until the last couple of hundred years. Sad.)

      6. It is not cannabalism. We don’t consume and transform the host, rather the host enters inside of us and transforms us. That is not canibalism

    2. Dear Tyler.

      Shalom.

      You can not understand God, without first surrender to Jesus the Messiah. Only then you will receive the Holy Spirit. The cross can never again be bypassed.

      In regards to the RCC, you can always come up with a Bible verse or two, in a bid to defend this “Church”. But by her fruits, we can easily see what kind of religious movement she promotes.

      1. A leader who claim to be “holy father”, the name Jesus exclusively used on Father God.

      2. A Church who drinks physical blood, like other worshipers of witch craft.

      3. A priesthood who worship skulls, bones and corpses will basically be lead into insanity. That is why 150.000 children in Ireland have been raped by their spiritual leaders.

      4. A religious movement who looks up on the United Nations as a suitable forum for achieving world peace.

      I could make this list much longer.

      It you want to live in the Kingdom of Heaven, you have to leave the Vatican and her promoters. She is a house of demons, and they will hunt you and lead you into the pit of religious sins. In the end, you will have to spend eternity with Satan and his angles. You sided with them, and there is no excuse for the judgment you will receive.

      The good news is that the age of grace is not over. Repent, get baptized, and serve the living God, Yeshua from Nazareth. Amen.

    3. Dear Tyler,

      Shalom to you.

      Would eat the bloody host in the picture without a second thought?

      Please review the Marian apparitions. All of them point to a world religion to come. All of them speak of the necessity to sacrifice to save sinners as if His blood was not enough. Google “Lady of All Nations” ..she says all religions are the same to God. Same with Medjugorie.

      To answer your question. Yes. Satan wants this to happen, because he can drag millions into idolatry and praying to the dead. He takes the focus OFF the gospel and puts it on Mary and the “miracles” of the sun, rosaries turning gold and all these lying signs and wonders.
      When the pharisees asked for a ‘sign’ the Lord called them a wicked generation..saying the only sign they would get was Jonah. They wanted the hoopla and the magic tricks.
      Tyler, I implore you to do more research on Marian apparitions.

  5. We will not listen to what you say in the name of the LORD. Rather will we continue doing what we had proposed; we will burn incense to the Queen of Heaven & pour out libations to her, as we & our fathers, our kings and princes have done in the cities of Judah and the streets of Jerusalem.” (Jer 44:16)

    “Because you burned incense & sinned against the LORD, not obeying the voice of the LORD, not living by His law, His statutes & His decrees, this evil has befallen you @ the present day.” 44:23

  6. Ivar,

    Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you,thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you,THANK YOU for continuing to expose the Roman Catholic Church and its DEMONIC doctrines on your site.

    I pray that all who are caught up in this REPENT RIGHT NOW as time is short and eternity in hell defending these practices is NOT WORTH IT!

    There is NO EXCUSE for anyone to continue to follow this evil, evil, evil cult once you see with the eyes Jesus gave you to see with the truth about this “religion”.

    This evil “church” mocks the God of Abraham, Issac, Jacob and Yeshua.

    I pray that God grants those involved in this filth the wisdom to get out NOW and publicly renounce it. We are almost OUT OF TIME!

    (Thanks for writing this, Sue.)

  7. Dear Andrea,

    You said:

    This whole cult religion got started by a man who could not give up his lust for sex (with women) supposedly by his own admitting then raising his own Mother as “The Mother of Christ’…putting statues of her venerating her all thru his own life.

    My comment:
    Please tell me where you got this information from?

    1. Sueliz ..years ago, I was blessed to be set free from many things I didn’t even know I was in bondage to…one was so easy to believe that anyone older than I and/smarter than I, had to be telling the truth. (smile..in short I was not the brightest crayon in the box, molded by the god of this world and thought I was a good Christian..”NOT”..in reality I was on my way to Hell and taking my children with me..) ..By the grace of God I was able to sit under some people who did know The Truth..in a History Class on The Bible, we were told we had to do research on all Denominations, Doctrines as well as the one we were currently believing. But first we were shown how to lay any denomination along side of The Word of God..(those years I cried a lot ad the truth set us free). I was not and did not want to be a Catholic, but oh the pictures of Mary and ‘baby Jesus’ seemed to be the holiest thing..even Jesus on the cross. (We never had seen what is shown on this site and talked about.) A great respect for this..till the class and seeing a real skeleton venerated …ewww. This was quite an eye opener for the entire class. As the computer world opened up so much on the Internet everyone is able to get this information at a ‘fingers-touch’..I have often seen repeated what I was taught by The Holy Spirit in class…what we called The Class of The Spirit. (another class you cry alot in (smile) as you come to the Truth) .where we had days and hours of research and proof of each place of study Books, Libraries, Teachers, etc… Quite exhaustive… in fact the Ferris Wheel will never have the same for me again..The Monastery that Augustine lived with Monks for 9 years had the sign of what we see so many wearing today…or using..white/black curve … Monotheism the belief was you needed to talk to the ‘Head Monk when he comes he has and will give all understanding to the Great Mysteries…you arrived in stages around the wheel as the wheel cup left on the right it had good in it, as it progressed it had bad in it ..thus God had good and bad in Him…we are all of the one god..(lie of course)..When Augustine heard a Man preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ he was moved greatly..and accepted the grace of Salvation..but he could not over come the desire for women. His Mother was a praying women and he after his conversion …In all of this…this was around the 3rd Century ‘after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.’ Amazing how the Catholics claim to have Peter’s role..they’re saying it took God over 300 years to find ‘the one’ to take the place of The Father’ in earth and/or Peter’s place..crazy…Check into this you’ll find so much more…and it’s all very eye opening…just like the subjects on this site…which I am still ever aware of The Holy Spirit revealing more and more of the Truth brought forth in these Latter Days..and the people getting stronger in objections to the truth that is revealed here…Yall have played a huge part in ‘witnessing’ to what I have been taught over the years….Thanks You very much! (smile)

  8. In short…The 4 Gospels are like a Picture..it reveals what Man saw at Calvary…The Epistles are like a Negative..it reveals what God did at Calvary…(Ephesians 2:1-22) you can’t have one with out the other..The Old Testament is the revelation of all of what God did ..smile..the Mystery that was withheld…it’s sad people drop 39 Books of The Bible to only believe in 27 Books of The Bible..no wonder we fall for anything coming down the pike..Luke 7:47 is very precious to me. with out the entire Word of God..we can not love or have a Holy Fear of The ONE who is so worthy of all our love. obedience, faith and respectful reverence. Will Jesus find Faith when HE returns.. I think He will..I pray He will !

  9. Andrea,

    Still trying to understand your original comment in Augustine raising his own mother to the mother of Christ?? You claim the whole Catholic religion was started by Augustine. With respect, this is just not so.

    I’m not sure where you learned church history from, but Augustine was not the origin of Catholicism.
    Blessings,
    Sue

    1. All I can say is what I know…and the Catholic (I still believe it means “Universal”) was not started by Jesus…but by a ‘Man’ full of lust..and that faith has kept that spirit that still runs rampant through out the world today against, women and children.. That spirit is the spirit of lust..Blessings also to you too Sue…thanks for the chat..

    1. You are just like the accuser,only say negative things, all due to human weakness, but do not tell about the great good done by the Catholic Church, such as hospitals, schools, orphanages all over the world, the many sacrifices made by priests and nuns. In recent months, a priest in Syria, had the opportunity to leave, however he chose to remain knowing he would be killed. How many of you sharp tongues would do this sacrifice?

  10. Andrea,
    PLEASE keep letting the Lord lead you to expose these false cults, no matter what anyone says or thinks, as it’s done in love ‘through His Word’?? Use as much scripture reference as the Holy Spirit brings to your mind and with the Lord’s help you’ll continue to ‘stand’ no matter what they throw at you. Remember 1 John 4:3,4 and you’ll be just fine with “their” help. Take care and continue to be blessed.

  11. Andrea.

    I guess I have never heard Augustine started the RCC. Constantine yes but not Augustine. Was the classes you attended run by SDA church by any chance?

    Blessings in Jesus.

    1. I don’t know what SDA Church is. And I hope I did not imply that you were negative or defending in what I said. The man of lust is always Satan…it’s just that man was not able to get past that..if I am in error of Augustine or Constatine….it was definitely one of them..(smile) ..but whether one or the other, ‘the spirit’ of the one that is dominate in any leader will ultimately try to appear in the followers, some to a stronger effect some to lessor..but “it” will appear..just like the ‘spirit of poverty’ is not a poor ragged appearance but rather one full of greed in many levels. So bottom line I would not wish anything or any spirit to try to imply a division in and/or among the brethren, by me.

  12. as for the spirit that is dominate can be overcome, thru prayer, fasting and obedience of The Holy Spirit. for He knows when and what the spirit is that tries to entice and/or lead ..If we know recognize the spirit we can stop it from having any lead or headway with us…Discerning of spirits. (not the critical spirit many babes in Christ have..)

    1. Dear Andrea

      Shalom.

      As Christians, we need to know the difference between a Christian Church, and cults and sectarian clubs. The SDA is not an evangelical Church. They hold on to a legalistic view on the Sabbath, that its on a Saturday.

      The SDA claim those who rest on Sundays, are heretics. The SDA also teach a different gospel, in regards to judgment. They teach “soul sleep”. All dead people are waiting on the judgment on the last day. This is not Biblical. Judgment day was 2.000 years ago, and all who believe in Jesus shall not be judged. Jesus have already taken our punishment, and those who die are going to Heaven to be with Him, IF they believed in Him.

  13. No no. Not at all Andrea. I didnt think you were causing division. Raised and educated Catholic including University, I was just curious. SDA is Seventh Day Adventist. I am hoping u are not of this church. They have some strange doctrines but interesting theories on the Vatican and their history.

    1. Never heard them called SDA before..but this generation calls everything by initials..even God…sad but true…so it seems everyone finds it easier to go by initials. No it was not the Seventh Day Adventist. In fact when they come to my door, I share with them Galatians 1:6-9 some (few) will listen, most do not and I tell them, then I can’t even bid you a Godspeed (Good day) less I am found going against The Word of God.
      As for this discussion ..I think it’s gone far enough. I know in Whom I trust and with out the daily leading, guiding, works of The Holy Ghost (whom Jesus sent for me and all who would believe and receive) I would be totally lost. I believe I’ll leave the roots of things to yall and just comment as I am led,..if Augustine & Constantine did not start the Catholic (Cult) Church, perhaps they were extremely important in bringing in the heresy and other spirits that have been instrumental in leading many to the brink of destruction as well as the reason so many have fled from their clutches by the precious and Holy leading of The Lord God. So please try to forgive me in being so lax in my opinion. The Truth of the matter is The Lord Jesus shed His blood for (as well as myself who was also saved by Grace) who took their sins that they might have Eternal Life. Right now I am hearing thunder, and it is one beautiful sound. Many scriptures are brought to mind…(what a joy it is when all things are done in The Name of Jesus. Thank you. Suzie, and Thank you Ivar, trying to so quickly, of reaching out to someone yall thought may of been led in error. Bea, your advice was well received as was Suzie and Ivar. Truly this is a god-send site. All of the confusion was on me. Blessings to you in Jesus Name.

      1. Thanks Andrea. Blessings back at you . Love and grace in Jesus. Just so you know the ones who come to your door are Jehovah Witness’s not SDA.

        Anyway, researching facts is a thing of mine, so I always try to pin facts down. Not trying to be picky, just like to nail down truth.

        Have a great day.

      2. You are delusional! Constintine was not even baptized until he was dying, and Augustine professed nothing contrary to the Catholic Faith, already understood and taught across the world. Every Christian apologist and theologian in the early Church professed the same faith as the Catholic Church does now. Don’t take my word for it- read the apologists and theologians for yourself and see that ALL of them claim that the Eucharist is literally the Flesh and Blood of Christ, crucified and risen.

        Besides which, if the Catholic Church is not the true Church, then Christ must be a liar, for there were several centuries in which the Catholic Church was the ONLY Church, unless you dare to call people who embrace such heresies as denying the Incarnation a church.

      3. Call me what you will…..yet The Truth “will” be shown to you, either ‘if you Repent and Believe The Gospel…or…when you take your last breath on Earth and face The Lord Jesus Christ….I pray it will be ‘before you face HIM for you allowing yourself to continue to be deceived after you have heard the Truth is the same as arrogant blatantly rejecting the Truth to keep a lie against GOD and His Word. Defending Church Doctrine that openly lies about The Word, The Lord, Mary and the Apostles, Deciples and His redemptive work in all who will believe… is not wise.

  14. Thank you for this article. Sue I enjoy your posts very much. I am so broken over the Catholic friends I have. I don’t know how to help them…I am trying to learn. I also have friends in SDA that really concern me. Do you know much about that group, cult or no?

    1. Dear Interested,

      Thank you for your kind comment. Don’t give up on your Catholic friends. If Jesus can work a miracle in my life, surely He can in your friends. Just keep sharing the pure gospel with them. I don’t know a ton about SDA but have done a little research on them to know that they are not apart of the evangelical church. They believe if you don’t rest on Saturday as the Jews did, you are heretical (as Ivar stated above). They also have strange beliefs about what foods to eat and how to approach health..this is mainly due to the writings of Ellen White. Here is some info:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh-day_Adventist_Church

  15. Dear Ivar,

    Andrea did not say she was a member of the SDA. I was just wondering due to the classes she took. I was merely trying to figure out where she was getting her church history from claiming that Augustine was the origin of Catholicism. It’s still not clear to me where this info came from. Augustine, known as an early church “father” is understood, as to being the origin of the RCC has me scratching my head,

  16. These pictures are beyond disgusting! How horrifying that there are people who actually believe these demonic teachings!

    I never heard the term before — “Mother of the Eucharist” even though I was raised in the Catholic Church.

    I was reading up on this and sadly came across this web site:
    (I hate to even link the web site here):

    http://www.catholictradition.org/Mary/virgin-eucharist.htm

    I nearly fell off my chair when I read how they have corrupted the teachings in the bible.

    “….the Blessed Virgin can repeat with truth to Jesus in the Host and in the Chalice, “You are my Son today I have generated You” (Ps. 2:7).”

    Ugh! These are doctrines from demons!!! Run from them!!!

  17. Jehovah Witness’s do not believe Jesus is God.
    The Jehovah witness’s bible say in John 1:1…the Word was a God.

    In the (kjv)John1:1… say the Word was God. Notice how the change the word and God say never to change his word or u will perish.

  18. Each comment from the 10 of you make me sick. How brainwashed and shameful you are to even use ‘ugliness’ as an excuse to not believe miracles. Crosses and the symbols of flesh and blood from christ are demonic are they? I honestly sympathize with you all that you dont have the capacity to understand simple logic, and hence know the truth. Please research any saint and the way they lived their earthly lives and the miracles that have happened as a result- curing cancer, sudden surgeries, etc.namely my favourite St. Charbel. OH NO MUST BE SATANS WORKS. absolute clowns you all are. nonetheless, God bless.

    1. You said…Please research any saint and the way they lived their earthly lives and the miracles that have happened as a result- curing cancer, sudden surgeries, etc.namely my favourite St. Charbel….I was going to give you some Scriptures that tells us ‘those born again’ are Saints, Priests, Holy, Righteous, Perfect ”in Christ Jesus”…but as I read your words I see it is more important for you and many like you dear, to defend your denominational doctrine than ‘repenting and believing The Lord Jesus Christ’…it is not one or many ‘Catholic saints’ that born our sins, nor their programed doctrine no matter what denomination or country they are from….it is ONLY JESUS THE RISEN LORD OF GLORY (smile) and when you or anyone gets this Truth…their filled with the Peace of God in all things.. We do not boast or relish in what Our LORD Jesus gave us, but rather we’re so ‘this world don’t have the words to describe’ the unmistakable joy, reverence, love of God The Father who raised Jesus from the Dead…and raised us also to sit with Him in Christ! …Oh I do pray you’ll set aside your faith and engulf “The Faith of Jesus Christ” for it all was done in His Faith for this astronomical Holy work that all men might be saved…yet sadly not all men want this Great Sacrifice to include them so they reject it and spend their time on Earth defending a Dead Religion and/or ramble-rousing in all manner of degrading abominations of all sins some ‘in the name of religion’ some just to enjoy sin for a season not realizing the rewards that Hell has waiting for them! We don’t lift up sin, disease or ‘way of life’ to suffer for others to see our trial as a token banner to wear. We lift up THE NAME OF JESUS..not ourselves, nor revel in the deeds and works of the flesh of others, than to follow Jesus themselves! Of which many are led astray and wonder why their faith is not as great as the deceivers..(who lie) .Sad!!!

      1. Amen Andrea! That was a good answer. Unfortunately for George C. and others like him, it IS more important to defend denominational doctrine than to repent and accept the truth of Jesus Christ.

        It is so clear! When I look at these hideous images and read about how deceived the RCC is, hair sticks up on the back of my neck. It is a visceral reaction, one given by the Holy Spirit that screams, “This is a lie from the pit of hell — run from it!”

        Sadly, George C. has been given over to the “Strong Delusion” that Jesus warned the end-time church about. Jesus told us that no amount of reasoning with those who have chosen to believe the lies of satan will change anything. They remain “stiff necked after many rebukes” and have chosen the path of arrogance, pride, uncontrolled anger, and deception.

        I pray with all my heart that the Holy Spirit convicts them of the truth before it’s too late and the words, “Be gone from me you workers of inequity” reverberate in their ears for all eternity.

        We are almost completely out of time and while Roman Catholics (or secret RC) claim to understand the urgency of the hour — they really have no idea that their very salvation may be at stake, not to mention the loss of every single reward and crown — for their participation in this lie.

        Heavenly Father, In Jesus Name, I pray that you reveal the truth right now too all those who continue to defend the Roman Catholic “church”. May they see clearly that it is nothing but a blasphemous lies from the pit of hell. May they understand that it is NOT COMPATIBLE with what Your Holy Words have spoken to our hearts. Save them, Dear Lord Jesus, and may your Holy Spirit bring them to a state of true repentance even today. In Jesus’ Precious Name, Amen.

      2. You ‘said….” In Jesus’ Precious Name, Amen….just got an email that was written four (4) hours ago…In no less than ‘Downtown, USA (North Carolina)…who’s governmental officials are doing exactly what they did in Germany…sad..but true…”And I’m told to ”soften and be quiet”…HOG-SPIT..!! (smile)
        Jesus’ Name Ruled ‘Unconstitutional’ it is written on WND and a couple of other News areas that in just 4 hours is being passed around…it’s too long to put in here but the title is clear enough…As long as it don’t rock the world of the pew sitters, and other closet believers..it’s A-OKAY….May God help ’em…all who will not bow to the Laws of Hell’s Spawns…no matter what National or Religious Title they do their lying deceptive deeds under!

      3. Funny how you contradict yourself when you say that IM trying to defend my denominational doctrine. The point of my comment was to argue that miracles are in fact the work of god and not demonic. As a catholic, and like every catholic, we represent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ first and foremost and believe that he is the ONLY one that can save us. Your whole point about the boasting made absolute no sense to me. “Election includeth in it a permanent resolution of God to glorify his mercy on the vessels of mercy, thus foreordained unto glory”- i dont understand how you would think of them as deceivers when clearly they are the vessels of God. Whats this token branner crap you speak of, just about everything youve assumed about catholics who are christians, who are believers of christ, has been wrong and misleading. Miracles from saints are just signs for non-believers to believe in Jesus and another light that God has chosen to place for all to witness. JM clearly fears looking at blood and its unfortunate miracles werent as pretty as butterflies- can u see what u base your 5 year old logic on? you might as well be a jew since Jesus never came across as a pretty king but as a humble servant to others. andrea i know this probably wont change anything but wake up a bit and maybe read the bible, which does not interpreting a miracle as a demonic, especially if it’s purpose is to bring you closer to God. How do you explain miracles involving oil and being incorruptible centuries after death. Once again they do not lift our sins or save us AT ALL, they are simply the extraordinary powers of God. Hopefully you can now understand in this final comment. God bless 🙂

      4. ….{As a catholic, and like every catholic, we represent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ first and foremost ..}
        Let the ”cries of little boys and yes little girls” from century past to even this very minute be a witness against you and your ‘first and foremost we believe in the Lord Jesus Christ….Let them tell of what you represent in the darkness ….let them tell you of your actions toward them when you ruled them with fear….Let God remind your ears of the devastating horror your kind put billions thru..Not just you O Sinful Man, but all the ones who profess ”they represent The Lord God Almighty”…May you all be rewarded for your pious religiosity …perhaps maybe perhaps when you stand before The ONE you profess you represent you will see all those faces and hear all those cries that went up to the Ears of The ONE who will not only judge but able to ‘reward’ for all eternity…not one thought, word or deed, O Catholic professor of all Catholics and the gall of claiming to be a representative of His Majesty…of God’s Grace, Mercy, and the witness of The Blood on your hands you as your many sins has gone before you, so shall your many sins follow after you when you have ‘expired the usefulness of this World and Satan,you were so eagerly to announce to all ”that YOU and
        all Catholics represent The Lord Jesus Christ first and foremost. Oh just a hint perhaps you may not have noticed…No where in The Word of God, has there ever been a sentence or hint, that Miracles saved anyone!!!! Only I say ONLY BY THE DEATH OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST THRU HIS SHED BLOOD AT CALVARY COULD AND CAN EVER BE THE ONLY WAY ‘BY FAITH’ IN WHAT HE DID AT CALVARY…ORDAINED BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD…TO PAY THE PRICE FOR ALL MANKIND, ”BY FAITH” IN HIS DEATH BURIAL AND RESURRECTION CAN ANY ONE BE SAVED..IT’S ALL ABOUT JESUS Sweetums..All about Jesus..(smile)…Notice it’s not about “YOU” or Your Catholic Society! Who can’t even pray unless they go thru Mary first…Who sends Pedophiles to a new location as The Pope’s way of Who hiding the sins of billions…so they can continue to have sex with anything that walks, sits or stands…or who Worship the Pope not God…who refuse to Obey God’s Word…spoken by JESUS…NOT TO CALL ANYONE FATHER BUT THE ALMIGHTY GOD!!…Now if you’re really serious about ”any form of faith” even to turn on a light switch…fall on your knees O Man and Repent and turn to JESUS not your demonic denomination. Less you find out too late who you and your Catholic Denomination has been really worshiping…and believe this too..Satan and his hordes of minions on Earth will laugh in your face for all eternity that you were so gullible to believe their lies…you were easy to deceive it only took a Pedophile…Oh yeah..you better take heed O Man.

      5. youve carked it. in fact youre really high. to say that no where in the word of god there has ever been a sentence or hint, that miracles saved anyone shows the devil inside you.

    1. Wake Up, George C,

      Satan is a limited being, corrupt and perverted in every sense of the term. Satan is a master of deceit, a liar through and through.

      “And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the LORD had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent. Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments. For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron’s rod swallowed up their rods.” —Exodus 7:10-12

      God had sent Moses to deliver the children of Israel out from under hard bondage in Egypt. Finally, after 400 years of torment and slavery, the Israelites were about to be freed from Egypt. God sent Moses and Aaron to confront Pharaoh, demanding the release of the Israelites. Aaron accompanied Moses as his spokesman. God told Moses and Aaron that Pharaoh was going to demand to see miracles. God had instructed them what to do. When Pharaoh did ask to see a miracle, Aaron tossed his rod down to the floor and it became a serpent. It should be to no surprise to a Christian that God is a miracle working God.

      However, what may be surprising to a newer believer who hasn’t grown yet in spiritual understanding is that SATAN ALSO PERFORMS MIRACLES! The fact that Satan and his false prophets can perform miracles is documented in the Scriptures.

      Exodus 7:11, “Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.”

      Exodus 7:22, “And the magicians of Egypt did so with their enchantments: and Pharaoh’s heart was hardened, neither did he hearken unto them; as the LORD had said.”

      Exodus 8:7, “And the magicians did so with their enchantments, and brought up frogs upon the land of Egypt. ”

      It is no surprise to the knowledgeable believer that Satan has power given to him by God. When the Devil tempted Jesus in Luke chapter four, the Devil made an interesting statement to Jesus…

      “And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.” —Luke 4:6

      http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/satans_miracles.htm

      1. JM how old are you LOL. did you know that jesus also performed miracles 😮 did you know that pictured host, now spread across the internet, is in fact bringing thousands closer to Christ. Satan also has powers but they are not used for the good of mankind lollll oh u

      2. Dear George.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        Satan also has powers but they are not used for the good of mankind…

        My comment:

        You have to give me Bible verses, to support your claim. Please give at lest one.

        Do you remember the magicians who copied Moses in Egypt? From where did they get their powers?

      3. are u saying satan does miracles for the good of mankind?
        are u saying the magicians used their powers to do good? hmm

      1. Dear George.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        i would most definitely eat the host in the photo. the blood and flesh of christ in the shape of a heart. what a blessing!

        My comment:

        Only cannibals drink blood and eat human flesh. Jesus was not a piece of bread that came flying down from Heaven. The Words we “eat” everyday is the bread of Life. The World became flesh, and dwell among us. Not to be killed and eaten by bloodthirsty men.

        John 6:63
        The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit and life.

        Repent, or perish. False doctrines of the Vatican have made you a wicked man, that delight in religious rituals that are pure blasphemy.

  19. “Take this and eat, this is my body, which will be given up for you,” then he took the cup: “This cup is the cup of my blood, the blood of the new and everlasting Covenant, which will be shed so that sins will be forgiven. Do this in memory of me” (Luke 22).

    God bless all your delusional minds.
    Especially Andrea. Andrea needs to get off the bong.

    1. I apologise if my comments have been very critical because of my strong beliefs. i respect your opinion and those of others who would like to share their own. But when people like andrea speak nonsense and lies about the catholic church you really cant have a serious debate with them.

    2. Sueliz1 as I read your response to George, this came to mind…

      Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

      Revelation 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

      1. Andrea,

        George means well. I understand him.

        Like Paul, he is zealous for his religion, and does not see whom he persecutes.

        Let us reach out in love and pray for him to know Jesus as Savior and Lord. Amen.

      2. Dear George,
        You said:
        andrea anyone can post bible passages, please stop embarassing yourself. they all apply very much to you

        My reply:
        I am afraid your posts condemn you. You again are being argumentative and rude. You have not been born again George and feel that you can pridefully criticize and say hurtful things to people.
        You said:
        “The world is fortunate to have twice as many Catholics as you Protestants.”

        Another derogatory statement that inflames bickering and conflict. You are not here out of love but to state you are “right” and everyone else is wrong. Please find another site to do this. Your efforts to ‘evangelize’ are futile.

  20. George,

    I accept your apology George. I extend the same love and grace given to me by Jesus for all of my mishaps.

    George, without love we are nothing. Any “evangelization” without love renders it null and void. God is love. Jesus says if we call someone “fool” we deserve hell for it. And if we don’t have love we are just a clanging symbol.

    I understand your position because I was there. I was a staunch Catholic, George and felt it was my job to defend the church from the heretics. Yeshua broke through my pharisee-ism and showed me what the Grace of the Gospel was.There was nothing I could do to save myself. Only the blood of the Lamb can save. Like the blood that covered the doorways during the passover, His blood is enough to cover you. When the angel passed over the door, the angel saw the blood and it was enough.
    When you accept Christ and trust Him and savior, the Father sees the blood and saves you from Wrath.
    What a mighty God we serve.
    George, rules can not save you, and neither can a church. Jesus can. And I pray this for you now, in His name. Amen.
    In His Love,
    Sue

    1. Please do not pray for me, for i should be the one praying for you. With all respect Sue, it’s great that you understand my position, but you have been misguided severely and lost some meaning in the truth. Your faith like most people on here was not strong enough to reject some thoughts of the devil. I do accept Christ as saviour? a church is there to teach us and strengthen our faith.. i never said rules or a church could save me. Why do you keep thinking that when i continuously argue that they only bring us closer to God but do not ultimately save us. That’s up to us whether we accept Christ in our heart, soul and mind. Dear oh dear. The world is fortunate to have twice as many Catholics as you Protestants. Peace.

  21. I pray that George C. and others like him will come to the place where they say, “thank you for pointing out the errors and lies spread by the Roman Catholic “church”. I will pray about this and seek council outside of the church and trust that the Holy Spirit will guide me to all truth.”

    Unfortunately, pride, arrogance and fleshly ego gets in the way, and won’t allow many to see the truth or even venture near it. They choose to BLINDLY fight for the cause of Satan which will result in eternity in Hell rather than to be true to the King of Kings who promises us eternal life with Him.

    If I was part of the RCC and was presented with this truth, I would I would RUN as fast as I can away from this “church”, repenting, renouncing, and throwing away every single thing I had in my home, office, car — anywhere near me — that represents this evil cult such as rosaries, statues of saints, charms, pictures, mary idols, etc. I would renounce publicly in all the places where I spoke and gave my approval of the Roman Catholic “church” that I am sorry for what I have done and then tell the truth about how the RCC is from the pit of Hell. I would pray for the renewing of my mind, to get all those ingrained blasphemous chants and repetitive “prayers” taught by the RCC out of my head. I would pray that every evil demon and curse that was upon me or my house from this evil organization of Satan to be gone. I would remove myself from any person, family member or home where this evil “religion” is spread, taught and worshiped, even if it meant living outside in a tent and being homeless.

    (Despicable items such as rosaries, statues, etc. should not just be throw out in the garbage but smashed and utterly destroyed to where they are unrecognizable to assure that no one else finds them or that they end up in a garage sale somewhere else.)

    Regarding communion, the early church viewed the last supper as a FELLOWSHIP MEAL in REMEMBRANCE of the sacrifice. The Catholic “church” turned this into a SACRIFICE MEAL in an ENACTMENT of the sacrifice.

    The early church viewed the last supper as the SPIRITUAL presence of the Lord. Some demonic Catholic church “priest” CHANGED the last supper into the EUCHARIST and said it was now the PHYSICAL presence of the Lord.

    The liars and the deceived in the RCC say that the bread and the wine become the ACTUAL body and blood of Christ. The Catholic doctrine of “Transubstantiation” is a lying doctrine of DEMONS.

    The bread and the wine are unchanged elements, but are used as SYMBOLS by FAITH representing Christ’s body and blood. Did you get it? Used as SYMBOLS. SYMBOLS that represent Christ’s body and blood in REMEMBRANCE of Him. It is NOT the ACTUAL blood and body.

    What the deceived Roman Catholic “church” has done ONCE AGAIN with the truth of the Last Supper is nothing short of blasphemous, heretical, satanic, high-priest sorcery, voodoo, and cultic witch-doctor like incantations over the “eucharist”.

    They take what is sacred and Holy and make a mockery out of it when they take the wafers and wine and perform DEMONIC ceremonies on it — hocus-pocus voodoo chanting and incense burning in the secret back rooms of churches.

    Is it any wonder that the wafers in the photos in this article have metamorphosized into some demonic bloody “live” entity? They have been cursed by the “priests”, who while performing an occult ceremony have channeled Satan and evil powers. Those deceived now think these are “miracles” but they are nothing short of the lying manifestations of “signs and wonders” by the price of all lies, the DEVIL himself.

    I also WOULD NOT put it past any so-called “priest” to place a bloody heart of a live mouse or other animal inside the wafer just to give credence to Satan’s lies that this is now a “miracle” from God. The “priests” depravity takes delight in tricking the masses. Most of these so-called signs and wonders are obviously man-made flagrant lies.

    Partaking OR APPROVING of what Catholics call the Eucharist makes you a blasphemous heretic, a cannibal, a vampire, and a sadistic masochist.

      1. Anyone who is not born of God will always reveal this type of spiritual bankruptcy! Even shows the typical spirit that ‘tries to pull out any Christian they think they and try to manipulate by saying “I respect you, but not such ‘n such or so ‘n so..only to pull out the carnal ideas to lean on the natural, remembrance of any subject. This is so sad, yet very dangerous for any Christian who don’t realize it is The Word of God we depend on not the experiences we have gone thru or visions, miracles. This is very dangerous, and this George has tried this several times to no avail..Thank The Lord. If a younger spiritual Christian had been his target, the Demons would not leave that one alone until they matured!

  22. Man has imperfect knowledge of God. The only truth was written in the bible. May God forgive all of you for your blasphemies. He will, through his almighty power bring us all to a realization of our sin through his warning to us. Time is short. We are in the second half of the tribulation, and Satan wants us to debunk all Christianity, especially the Catholic Church. It is not so easy to dismiss true miracles, and by the way, what made you the leading authority on miracles anyway? (Surely not the evil one you have been attributing to God?) Those who attribute evil to the Holy Spirit are lost without Jesus’ forgiveness. Fall to your knees and cry real tears of sadness for what you have done. Shame on you!

    1. You said….. “We are in the second half of the tribulation” (and other things…Gerald, that’s what happens when people believes the lies ..You dear are very deceived….on so many counts…Please get a Bible (not written by the latest heart throb of TV or the latest translation of Catholics..) and ‘read what The Lord says….If the Lord has not come by the time you get done you will have done yourself a great favor…actually you can read the Bible in 72 hours……or take a 5 or 7 day reading ….it will do wonders for your Eternal Destiny

    2. Gerald,

      Your comment: We are in the second half of the tribulation, and Satan wants us to debunk all Christianity, especially the Catholic Church.

      My comment: The tribulation has not began, because Jesus Christ has not raptured his church yet.

      1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first

      Furthermore, Gerald it is not the “Catholic church” that will save you. It is not praying to there gross body parts of humans, or praying to Mary in the form of a statue. Please wake up.

      It is Jesus Christ who is the only one who can save you.

      1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

      1 Corinthians 1:18 For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God

      Romans 5:8 But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

  23. And to answer your questions: Yes! Jesus DID command us to gnaw on His Flesh to have eternal life, and this is not cannibalism because He is Alive, not dead. Yes! There is but one Incarnation, which is why once they have become the Body and Blood of Christ, there is no bread or wine left behind, nor can there be, no matter what your sight, taste or touch tells you. They are entirely the Living God who was Incarnate in human flesh, born of a Virgin, died for our sins and rose from the dead, and there is no trace of bread or wine left behind.

    If this offends you, why are you not more offended by the Incarnation, wherein the Eternal God humbles Himself to become an Embryo, too small to see, and soon grows into a Boy and then a Man, all the while subject to suffering and ultimately dying. Why are you not offended by the Passion? Can God die? Why are you not offended by the Resurrection? Why should the dead live again in the flesh, which was sown in corruption, and not as free spirits like God the Father? To reject the Eucharist as offensive is to reject the Incarnation, Passion and Resurrection of Christ as equally offensive. Conversely, if you believe in these doctrines because the Bible tells you so, why do you balk at believing in the Eucharist, which the Bible also testifies to and commands you to believe? Because God should be a pure spirit, rather than flesh and blood? Then you are a Gnostic, not a faithful Christian. Because it sounds like cannibalism? The Crucifixion no less resembles human sacrifices than the Eucharist does cannibalism. Because it is a work? Jesus Himself called faith a work, and besides that, faith without works is dead. Because it invests power in human beings? The Scriptures command the presbyters, not deacons or laymen, to anoint the sick in the hopes of their healing and to effect the forgiveness of sins; therefore, saying that God has not given power unto the bishops and presbyters is contrary to the Bible.

  24. Myth Busters,

    Shalom.

    When Jesus celebrated the Seder meal with his disciples, he ate with them.. He also dipped the bread in the herbs and ate. Do you think He ate Himself?

  25. While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is my body.” Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you.
    – Matthew 26:26-27

    It states that He gave the bread and wine (which He consecrated to be His own Body and Blood) to His disciples after giving thanks, not that He ate it Himself.

    Plus, after, He says

    I tell you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it anew with you in my Father’s kingdom.”
    – Matthew 26:29

    But also he did fully partook of this very special seder meal, even though he had no need to do so. He also was Baptized, even though he had no need to do so.

    Jesus leads by example is the point and since he is God, there no limit to what he could do. Eating His own self is no way difficult than raising his own body from the dead.

      1. Sueliz1 this is truly sad, it reminds me of a child playing “Pick-up-sticks”…they toss all the sticks out of the can then take one to pick out one and not move the others…less they loose their turn…many have and do treat the Word of God the same way, they have it all in a neat little can then toss it out there …like a jumbled puzzle…But Ohhh the glory that will rise in their hearts and those who pray for them, when they finally see with the eyes Jesus gave them and hear with the ears Jesus gave them…then their hunger for His Word will be enormous…right now it’s a tool to win an argument…

    1. Dear David.

      Shalom.

      Please listen to Sue.

      If Jesus said He was in the bread, there must have been two “Jesus’es” present in what the Vatican has called “The Holy Communion”. One Messiah siting at the table, and one located in the bread.

      Than there are at least two separated “gods”, in this room, which would be plain and horribly wrong idolatry.

      We who obey the scripture, understand what takes place. Please follow me:

      During the passover, the Jews understood that it is a grave and damnable sin to drink blood. Even Jesus the Jewish Messiah could not drink, and would never drink blood. They took the passover cup and drank wine, and the wine was consumed as remembrance of the passover blood of Egypt. The ritual had been going on for 1.000 years, in remembrance of the Passover.

      Now, Jesus was going to create a new covenant, NOT in the CUP in the passover. But the new covenant in the blood He was going to shed on the cross. The perfect passover Lamb of God. A sacrifice, NOT to be forgotten, but to be remembered as often as they came together to break bread.

      That religious people do not understand this, is based on 1.500 years of heretic teaching by the Roman Catholic priesthood. Their heretic teaching became a Papal dogma in 1215 A.D, called the transubstantiation.

      All who respect Judaism and have obeyed the Holy Spirit, rejoices in the truth. And we have stopped distributed the lies and falsehood of the Vatican.

    2. 1Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

  26. I’m a firm believer but a bit of a wishy washy catholic and I do not receive the eucharist. I’m still wondering if there really is the presence of Christ in the eucharist. Sometimes I do, sometimes I’m not so sure. As for yourself, don’t you think the devil is doing what he can to pull you away from this great miracle (if that’s what it really is), in being one with Christ? Jesus did say ‘this IS MY BODY…. EAT IT’. He didn’t say its a symbol. He was pretty frank and straightforward in what it is and what we need to do. I don’t think you should worry about these eucharist miracles – maybe they’re real, maybe they are demonic. Focus on Christ’s last supper and what he asked of us. Be one with Him. He is our God and creator. Better to please Him than to be put off by nonsense from the evil one who will stop at nothing to pull us away from God. Better yet, pray about it!

  27. All you fanatical anti-catholic christians out there, why is it that you judge catholics so harshly but never utter a word against hindus, jews, muslims, buddhists etc? This venom you spit at the catholic church can only be the work of the devil! YOU are probably all possessed! But instead of me carrying on and being insulting, offensive and antagonistic towards you like you are towards the catholics, I will pray for you! What you are doing is exactly the antithesis of christianity and you dare call yourself ‘christians’! No wonder my husband hates christians!

  28. When I will return, will I find faith on earth? some are still the fake followers who shouted at Jesus, “are we cannibals? how can you give us your flesh and blood to eat and drink? But surely i tell you, except you eat the body and drink the blood of the Son of Man have no life in him. The Miracles are just a way of reminding and re-kindling the faith that is waxing cold. Jesus is real, His words are real, His presence is real. Maybe you know better than God who commanded that a bronze serpent be made, mind you my God did not introduce idol worship because He created all things and has the right over them. Maybe the making of Ark of the covenant will also make you think same of Our God. Friends, if you call yourself a christian, think again, you might be fighting against the Love of God who desires and does all just to save you. He brought this miracles of his love as he promised to be with you till the end of time and now, what do you pay him back with? it shocks me to see the foolishness of man feeble mind trying to comprehend the incomprehensible. THINK AGAIN.

  29. I am shocked to read all this against the Catholic church. I am 22 yrs old and stongly belive in mother mary and all the miracles of the sacrament happend and with lots of love love and due respect towards jesus i am ready to eat the flesh and bllod of christ who is are saviour. and please stop brainwashing people, it hurts a lot…….and no 1 has a right to hurt others sentiments…..we catholics dont force any1 to have the holy eucharist….its by their own free willl…..god bless all of u….

  30. You think those pictures look disgusting? Surely God would never present himself bloody, beaten, hard to look at, repulsive, etc?
    What about his actual passion? Wouldn’t that have made all around who watched it, physically sick and repulsed? It is by that bloody passion and death, fulfilled in His glorious resurrection that we are saved. We are saved by that which was so repulsive and hard to look at. His blood, on the cross, and the grace flowing through his passion.

  31. The Catholic Church is doing what Christ commanded it to do…

    Luke, Chapter 22 verse 19. “Then he took the bread, said the blessing, broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which will be given for you; do this in memory of me.”

    Mark Chapter 14 verse 22. 7 While they were eating, he took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and gave it to them, and said, “Take it; this is my body.”

    Mark Chapter 14 verses 23,24…Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, and they all drank from it.
    He said to them, “This is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed for many.

    Christ was clear and consise when he said this… The Catholic Church is the only church that is historically united to Christ and it also can be credited for the bible canon because it put the bible together. You guys and your man made churchs need to do your homework. The Catholic church has existed 2000 years and will continue to be here another 2000 years because Christ told Peter, “the gates of hell will never prevail against it”..

  32. Thank you all Catholics that are prepaire to stand up for Christ Church I feel sick to the bone how any one can so directly , blindly hate Christ church disregarding history and truth presented to them
    No one is so blind that do not want to see
    It would be loughable if the concequnces would,not be so serouis atributing the things of God to Satan
    All we can do is pray for them

    1. Dear Kiewiet

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      I feel the Word of God can defend it self. It is plain language to all men, not to be misunderstood. My opinions do not matter, neither my emotions, nor feelings.

      Please take a look at the skull on the left hand column on this site. Please click the image, and surf through about 50 articles with Roman Catholic bishop and priests, bowing before corpses, bones and skulls.

      https://ivarfjeld.com/category/vatican-skulls-and-bones/

      I love you enough, to call you to leave this kind of religious movements. A true death cult. It is a matter of life and death. I urge you to repent, before it is too late. May Jesus the Messiah open your eyes, make you fall down on your knees, and beg for mercy. You will be granted eternal life, if you do. Amen.

      May Jesus the Messiah have mercy on my soul too.

  33. I fail to find a cogent logical syllogism in this article. If I’m reading it correctly, the logic follows thus: “I’m disgusted by the pictures, therefore, the Eucharist cannot be the body and blood of Christ.”

    Very important in matters of faith to separate flowery language from falsehood.

    My advice: Cling to truth. Stay with Sacred Scripture, and be sure you don’t read into scripture (eisegesis), but always let the inspired word speak to you, even if you don’t understand it (exegesis).

    The possibility of Christ being metaphorical in his bread of life discourse is debunked in the very same passage when he is given the opportunity to recount. Therefore, as a starting point for your logic, you might assent to the real presence in the Eucharist, and go from there.

    The presence or absence of blood does not discount the truth of scripture.

  34. Yes, I am a catholic priest. While I was looking through the Holy Eucharistc miracles, it happened to visit this site. Very interesting and I am so happy that some of them like, Bill, Joey, Gracie Komasara etc have made beautiful comments. But the comments of Tyler seems to be more precise and up to the point. I copied it below because it’s worth reading again and reflecting on it.
    I am a priest, celebrating the holy Mass daily. But I can’t understand how it becomes a witch craft or magic???!!! I always lived and still live as a normal man, with a mission of sanctification. Honestly saying if a priest is doing a witch craft, he can never lead a normal life because witches never had normal life. How is it possible that the entire priests of the Catholic Church around the world do the ceremony the same way and the result of visible transformation of bread and wine happends only very few times? Every 10 or 15 minitues of the world clock, starts the celebration of a holy Mass in the world. ,!!!!!!

    It happend to read a comady, some one commented that ‘if Jesus gave his body and blood to the disciples during the last supper there where two Jesus’, one is Jesus as person and the other is body and blood’. Can Jesus be in different place at the same time? Or he is limited to time and space like us? While Jesus was in this world he can not be separated totally from Father and Holy Spirit because they share the same substance… One single God in Trinity, if so His presence also was with Father and Holy Spirit!???? Then there were two Jesus?

    The 15th century revolution of the Protestants brought up these thoughts against catholic faith. The bible and the fundamental fath that is carried by them is debted from the catholic doctrines. Can any one of you give us a history and truth of your fath from the chronicles before 15th century? Please try to be honest… Jesus said: “For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed” (John 6:55). He continues: “As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me” (John 6:57). “Do this in memory of me”(Luke 22:19)….. That’s the command of The Lord…
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    !Tyler…..
    He took the bread and broke it;
    and what that Word did made it;
    I do believe and take it

    The passover lamb was representative of Jesus Christ.
    The Last Supper was done in rememberance of the body and blood of Christ and is where Jesus assigned the meaning of the bread and wine.

    Symbols are very powerful reminders of events and concepts. The Lord used them throughout the OT in the rituals and ordinances performed. Jews were no stranger to symbolic and metphoric meanings.

    Now Really? Again,where does Jesus say: THIS represents or is a symbol of my body and blood? John’s Gospel Chapter 6, does not suggest a symbol. Simply listen to Jesus say:

    “For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed” (John 6:55). He continues: “As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me” (John 6:57). The Greek word used for “eats” (trogon) is very blunt and has the sense of “chewing” or “gnawing.” This is not the language of metaphor!

    Really? St.Paul sure differs with your LDS belief.

    Paul wrote to the Corinthians: “The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ?” (1 Cor. 10:16). So when we receive Communion, we actually participate in the body and blood of Christ, not just eat symbols of them. Paul also said, “Therefore whoever eats the bread and drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. . . . For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself” (1 Cor. 11:27, 29).

    “To answer for the body and blood” of someone meant to be guilty of a crime as serious as homicide. How could eating mere bread and wine “unworthily” be so serious? Paul’s comment makes sense only if the bread and wine became the real body and blood of Christ. Pretty harsh words for something so symbolic.

    Likewise,early church does not support your position,it is all a novelty a symbolic Eucharist.

    BTW: How ironic to believe Jesus is God and Creator,yet God is not capable nor is it POSSIBLE, giving us His Body and Blood in two simple elements: bread and wine. How arrogant.

    Tyler October 12, 2011 at 8:59 am · · Reply →
    So, what makes a miracle a miracle? My assumtion is if it only actually happens in the eyes of a few people, then it is a vision. If it happens in the eyes of the entire world, then it is a miracle.

    Let me elaborate. If Jesus turned water into wine, but only a few people saw it was wine, that would be an illusion right? Or if God split the sea in half, and people walked into it and drowned, then it would have been an illusion. Or if the star that the 3 kings followed, only was to be seen by them, it would be an illusion.

    RIGHT???? Those are miracles right? Because they really occurred. Physically. If only a few people experienenced those miracles, they wouldnt really have happened right? they would be illusion.. Right?

    First of all, miracle does not have to have entire world to see in order to consider it as miracle. How many times have you heard any story in which a very sick person was miraculously cured with no medical explanation? If this is not miracle, what do you consider it? a vision? no!

    If you don’t want to hear from what the church say, then you can look at the fruit of this miracle/visions produce. If Satan can lure us, how long this miracle/visions last? Would God allow Satan to go that far to steal souls from those of the faithful ones – those who Love Virgin Mary, those who love the communion between Heaven and Earth. I don’t think so.

    Many non-Catholic Christians believe that Virgin Mary’s appearances are demonic, but look at the fruits it has been producing? How many people got cured physically and spiritually? Thousands of people are turning to God each day. Do you think Satan want to have this happen. If he even does, how long do you think he stand it with his lie and seeing many people are back to God?

    1. dear RC priest……

      You are a victim of a great deception, you are called by the Lord blind leader of the blind (Matt 15:14). You have to be born again by the Holy Ghost, by putting your whole hope, trust and life in a hand of Jesus, repenting from your sins to gain a new heart from the LORD (Jer 31:33, Eze 11:19-20, John 3:3-7, Heb 8:10-11).

      You must denounce religion and ask Lord to open the Word 4 you. Ask God to open your eyes to se evil in religion. Christianity is not religion, rather walking with Lord.

      By the way, after speaking on eating his flesh and drinking his blood Jesus said in a verse (John 6:63): It is the spirit that quickeneth: the flesh profiteth nothing. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. (Douay-Rheims Bible).

      For the co called mass……………..Jesus told us in Luke 22:19 and Paul said in 1 Cor 11:24 quoting Lord; do it in my rememberence, he said that his BODY will be broken and BLOOD shed on the CROSS. Thats done deal. His blood was shed and body broken almost 2000 years ago. WE DO TAKE BREAD AND WINE IN REMEMERIN WHAT PRECIOUS LORD HAS DONE 4 US, not to consumete him to gain life. SPIRIT of the LORD will bring you LIFE (if you repent – to be born again od the HOLY Ghost), becouse he IS RESURECTION AND LIFE. Then He will live in you by the Holy Ghost:

      Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

      When you serve MASS you are sacrefise Lord again and again and again. Its a pure blasfemy. Repent of that, please. Read this Heb 9:

      25 Nor did he go into heaven to sacrifice himself again and again, the way the high priest goes into the Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. 26 Then he would have had to suffer repeatedly since the creation of the world. But now, at the end of the ages, he has appeared once for all to remove sin by his sacrifice.

      Please Repent……..

      1. Mathew 12:32
        “And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come”.

  35. John Bradford defined an anti-christ as a minister who operated under a fake, counterfeit false anointing….He also had the misfortune to live part of his earthly life under the curse of papal totalitarianism. He was a truly righteous and holy man-eventually executed by the papacy because he could not accept the doctrine of transubstantiative catholic mass.

    The reason catholics persist in repeatedly performing their hoodoo mass ritual, is because they have never had an actual revelation of Jesus as the risen Lord. For them Jesus hasnt defeated satan yet, He is no more than a spiritual mascot has to be theatrically and ritually re crucified every time they do a mass, so that the priest retains unwarranted levels of spiritual control over the sinner-actually stands in the way of a sinner responding to the freely offered gift of forgiveness, redemption and new life in Christ. And because they havent accepted that Jesus is in Heaven, on His throne, ever victorious, interceding, the faithful high priest we confess….The popes and the priest presumptuously imagine that salvation is dependent on them-their ministry, their office, on them dispensing wafers and wine that they falsely assert to be the actual body and actual blood of Jesus.

    Catholics are quite like homosexuals. In the same way that some homosexuals insist they can still retain that particular ungodly lifestyle choice, and still be a christian-the catholic priests, from the outset, insisted they could retain pagan ritual offerings, and still be christians. They just cloaked and disguised them with christianese jargon. But essentially the mass is nevertheless a pagan offering.

    1. Mark 9:40
      “39But Jesus said, “Do not hinder him, for there is no one who will perform a miracle in My name, and be able soon afterward to speak evil of Me. 40″For he who is not against us is for us. 41″For whoever gives you a cup of water to drink because of your name as followers of Christ, truly I say to you, he will not lose his reward.”

      We are noT speaking against you anyway… But from the above words it’s so clear that you need only to attack the Catholics. Very pity… We don’t say what you do but we want to defend the real faith. You do whatever you wish but you should know the responsibility is always yours for every single word you speak. No one is capable of questioning the Holy Spirit. What is your measure to calculate the percentage of Holy Spirit that you have and the Catholics? You can never measure or judge over it!!!!
      If really we do not follow Jesus why we need to hang on Christianity? I prefer to leave and make an another religion rather than remaining here. We can make miracles like body of Christ to attract people very easily in a new religion if it is demonic. I myself alone can be more famous. Che stupidità, Mio Dio perdona mi. Be rational dear friends. You can have your faith and no one will question it. But why you attack others’ faith???

      1. We attack demonic deception. You should be watchful 4 your soul and searc the LORD 4 answers and guidence. You are brainwashed by your thelogy7philosopy degree, fake pristhood powers and traditions of men and doctrines of deamons.

        Only truth is WORD OF LIVING GOD aka BIBLE aka JESUS. NOT TRADITION, NOT RELIGION, NOT POPE,NOT RITUALS.

        Please consider this….Is Satan capable of performing lying miracles? Wonders? Remember Moses in front of pharaoh?

        read 2Thess2. I only seek that you let LORD to open your eyes and grant you forgivnes and eternal life.

      2. Give me answer for Mark 9:33-41!!! The direct words of Jesus!!! And Mathew 12:32 is the result… Take care…. All the best…. Good night.

  36. Fr X,

    Blessings and love to you. When we are saved we have Jesus inside of us. On that can we agree? But the Catholic Church does not promote believers to say “I am saved”, it is conditional to making mass, holy days of obligation and following dogma.
    When a believer is saved Jesus takes residence inside us. We don’t need to eat God to have God. He is always there. We don’t need a physical bread to have Jesus. He left so that we always have Him until He drinks with us from the vine again.
    Jesus said he was a door and he was a vine. Not representations of a door or vine. We know He is not a wooden door. Or a real vine. He uses these terms to explain more about Himself. His life in us is our bread and drink. We live on Him every moment. He is our sustenance and strength. Hallelujah.
    To be saved is to know there is no ladder high enough to climb to get to heaven, no way to earn it or follow a ritual or rile book. HE DID IT ALL. We must trust in His blood and know IT IS FINISHED. We don’t need to repeat the sacrifice. He sits at the right hand because it is finished. Hallelujah. To trust in His finished work is freedom.
    If you’ve ever attended a Jewish Seder , the meaning of communion will change in your heart. We remember what He did. So glorious and precious. So important and holy. Mold rots bread. His body can not see destruction. His body can not become rotten and Eucharist bread indeed does.
    If you have Jesus alive in your heart and being you don’t need to eat god. For He is there.

  37. Answer 4 you: Jesus talks about disputes among born-again Christians. You are a pagan chained by religion. Chistianity is walk with god (remember Adam&Eve?)

    So, my friend, i am not attacking you, i care about you beeing set free by the blood of the Lamb. Read Fil 3:7-9 (replece paul with yourself).

  38. “But why you attack others’ faith???”
    Not attacking it Xavier-just robustly explaining some facts about catholicism, from a non catholic viewpoint-rather than meekly accepting its superstitious myths and dogmas at face value as many people “in the spirit of ecumentalism” seem compelled to do nowadays.
    Do you think I am going to roll over and die, and allow your pope to trample over me, when he appears on a youtube video and claims that I am his brother? Or when his colleague Tony Palmer claims “we are all catholics now, Luthers protest is over” ???? When in fact the ancient pagan mystery cult religion the pope currently heads is diametrically opposed to Life in Christ, is a consistent and notorious persecutor of true righteousness, one that creates, promotes and maintains false hope, is based on self righteousness and legalistic good works, is corrupt and corrupting, obsessed with total authoritarian control of all christendom, prepared to kill in order to acheive that, actively preventing sinners from receiving saving grace??

    1. Dear chaircharacter

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      You wrote:

      Or when his colleague Tony Palmer claims “we are all catholics now, Luthers protest is over” ????

      My comment:

      Tony Palmer just died in a motorbike accident.

      1. Apparently two investigative fellows contatcted not 1 but 2 operators at the hospital where Tony Palmer was admitted. Both of them confirmed each other that be was “discharged” not deceased. The reporter asked severeal times if by discharged they meant let go or died but she said no, he was discbarged. Had he died the computer would show “deceased”. He was dischrged 2:45 minutes after being admitted. Yet the press said he was in surgery for 10 hours and died sunday eve. Pontifex Maximus sent a personal note of condolence to his family but didn’t kmow he had been discharged? Weren’t they close friends? Working together for unity? The vatican is up to something and so is the dragon who gave his power seat and authority to it. I guess time will tell.

  39. I have never seen such hatred towards a religion before. I had (previously) admired Protestants for their openness to discussion. I was always taught that the first rule of a discussion is to give your interlocutor “ultimate charity,” i.e. to built up the opposing view to its utmost before seeking what might be unsound. “Cult”? “Pagan”? “Catholics are quite like homosexuals”?? Very immature.

    Not only are the antagonists in this blog lacking the fundamentals of a mature logical discourse, but they’re also severely lacking in charity. Very disappointing. I do admire, in general, the charity and welcoming demeanor in most Protestant churches I visit. This article is little more than chest-thumping, emotive rhetoric, and the basis for any “theology” (so-called) is solely anti-Catholicism. I don’t purport that these faiths wouldn’t exist without Catholicism because Catholicism is the root of all (30,000) Christian denominations, but rather I purport they wouldn’t exist without Catholicism because without a common hatred for all things Roman Catholic, there would be nothing else to unite them. I’m more sure of that now than ever.

    Fr. Xavier, I applaud you in your efforts to show that the (wholly Christian) teachings of the Catholic faith are not mutually exclusive from much of the aforementioned spirituality. Happy feast of St. Ignatius.

    Fr. Bill (ordained a priest of Jesus Christ June 21st, 2014)

  40. Not every protestant is able and willing to shut themselves up and agree to a deception and a lie. Read 1 kings 22:13

    ” I do admire, in general, the charity and welcoming demeanor in most Protestant churches I visit. ”

    Well, keep visiting those places if it makes you happy, whats the problem? Although if protestantism is papal anathema why does a catholic even go near them in any case? Ah yes, because those churches have been neutered, emasculated, hypnotised into stupor in part because of their condoning acceptance of post modernism, and also by pope-led interfaith syncretism and ecumentalism. You are a roman catholic priest. By calling yourself “a priest of Jesus Christ” you probably see it as you mission to make those supine proddies into good catholics. By and large those churches are in great confuson. Why? Certainly not because they are Protestant (any more than catholic churches are confused and divided by socialism/liberalism/marxism/humanism/traditionalism and in conflict amongst themselves because they are catholic)…The proddies have (with immense stupidity) almost completely rejected the preaching of the traditional orthodox full gospel-of original sin, repentance, the cross, being washed by the Blood of the Lamb; being born again, dying to the adamic nature, living a new life in Christ in the power of the Holy Spirit, doing the good work/s that God created IN ADVANCE or us to perform….they now almost certainly see fit to reject the final authority of scripture, and even of the need to be saved anyway, as if any religion will do. Many are given over to politicised gestures and social initiatives, humanitarian, community based seeker friendly liberalism and immoral lifestyle choices, and want “unity” at any cost-even if it means being in communion with the bishops of rome. In other words there is (unfortunately) a fertile breeding ground for neo romanist zealots like yourself. catholicism always thrives in the midst of confusion and Biblical illiteracy.
    “Charity” these days has actually come to mean something more like “unquestioning tolerance”. If you are “charitable” in the current ecumental climate, then you mustnt say or do anything that will offend anyone, most especially the pope and his religious organisation. But actually, it certainly doesnt mean you should just sit back and shut up for the sake of ecumental “peace” when you see the onward march of the papacy to wrest control of christendom entirely to itself.

    “Not only are the antagonists in this blog lacking the fundamentals of a mature logical discourse, but they’re also severely lacking in charity. ”

    Well, you have evidently never been on the receiving end of some of your nut-job catholic bretheren then have you. I seriously wonder sometimes if some of them are reincarnations of general franco the spanish fascist. That or general pinochet the chilean fascist…

    The catholic notion of “mature logical discourse” is a non starter. Why? Even the way you describe non catholics (on a non catholic web site) as “antagonists” gives you away. The rcc has a supremacist mindset, imagines it cannot be wrong, and that every one else is at fault; they assert that they alone are guardians of truth and only their church can save. And it has no intention of ever changing, so what is the point of “debating” this or that? Huh? The popes requirement is to expect non catholics to blindly submit to the catchetism the magisterium, papal authority and their inane tradition, even if it ultimately means beating and killing to prove the point. They will fight tooth and nail to retain and “justify” all manner of unbiblical ungodly practises such as statue idolatry, mary worship, relic worship-and the transubstantiative mass. For me the “miracle” of the mass is that so so many people are deceived by it. As any martyred non catholic reformer would tell you, the transubstantiative mass was THE key doctrine at the heart of the reformation. You talk about “discourse” well have you ever read journal accounts (often from death row) of people who actually had the misfortune to live under papal totalitarianism? Men who knew what it really entailed, rather than the rosy tinted misty eyed version that modern catholics hold to? When they-at peril to their earthly lives-forensically exposed its desperately false basis, they realised that it was at the heart of roman catholic counterfeit spiritual power. Its precisely the same today. The one thing that the papacy is truly afraid of is a born again spirit filled man of God who preaches the Biblical gospel of salvation. Thats why the papacy always ties to eradicate true righteousness and impose its own counterfeit version instead. Ecumentalism has worked better than probably the popes wildest dreams, to eliminate the preaching of true righteousness.

    1. You lost me at “deception and lie.” Apparently, I lost you at “charity,” which means love. Two greatest commandments. Point made (set and match). Unsubscribing.

      1. “Catholics are quite like homosexuals”?? Very immature.

        No its true Billy. I explained why, you just need to grow a pair and not get so touchy and thin skinned. You need to wake up to spiritual realities because your false religion has lulled you to sleep

        If you talk to “gay xians” you will find the same self centred strong willed determination to retain ungodly, unbiblical and unecessary elements in their spirituality as one does with your average papist-in the case of non heterosexuals this would be the irrational need to retain sodomy, their unbiblical sexual preference. In the case of the papist like yourself, its the irrational need to retain pagan elements such as the eat-God mass, and carved statues and idols. In fact the Bible is CRAMMED with bible verses which highlight again and again and again the futility and wickedness of idols and those who make and use them. But of course the papacy knows better than God Himself. In fact there is FAR MORE explicitly anti-IDOL scriptural basis than there is anti-GAY.

  41. Fr Bill
    Protestants can not conceive bowing before bread. It is a gross form of idolatry. I know this is hard to understand. There is no worship of bread in the bible.
    I know you believe it is Jesus in the bread and that there is no more bread after consecration due Aristotles theory of accidents.
    There was arguments in the Catholic Church and church fathers concerning the Eucharist and mass itself was not even an obligation until around 1215 A.D.
    This is obviously a very deeply felt topic. Considering Protestants were burned at the stake by the Vatican for not believing in it brings up lots of feelings.
    I would like to know your opinion of the images above. Would you eat a bloody communion? I ask this without sarcasm or any disrespectful tone.
    Thank you and God bless.

  42. I would say that Jesus is PRETTY clear when saying that the bread to be eaten is real flesh and real blood.

    The Bible says:

    John 6:53 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in yourselves. 54 He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. 55 For My flesh is true food, and My blood is true drink. 56 He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him

    after this, some of the disciples left, simply because they couldn’t believe what He said. Now, there could be 2 things happening here:

    They left, because the THOUGHT when Jesus spoke he talked about eating REAL flesh and drinking REAL blood.

    Or they left, because what Jesus said about REAL flesh and REAL blood was EXACTLY what he meant.

    Some people would argue that the disciples ran away, because the understood him wrong when talking about flesh as real food. That is exactly the reason why they left. Jesus knew this. When they ran away, Jesus didn’t say: “oh, wait. You misunderstood me, I was talking about flesh and blood in a figurative way”. But he didn’t. Because He knew that they left because they couldn’t believe EXACTLY what Jesus meant.

    If that still doesn’t convince anyone here that it is real food Jesus is talking about, there is also this text, from I Corinthians:

    1 Corinthians 11:
    23 For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, 24 and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.” 25 In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26 For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.

    27 So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Everyone ought to examine themselves before they eat of the bread and drink from the cup. 29 For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves.

    When Paul speakers about “they eat and drink from the cup” he is speaking about a physical cup. After this, he says that we should NOT eat and drink without the BODY of Christ, because we would bring judgement upon ourselves. That means, we should eat and drink the body of Christ. How can we eat and drink the body of Christ in a figurative way but we have to discern (this means to perceive, observe) the body of Christ? There is no way to observe the Body of Christ in the Bread, if it isn’t there.

    Even more interesting is, that when looking up the word ‘to eat’ in the original Greek language the letters of Peter were written, we find the word “trogon” when translating this into English, it also means to ‘chew’ or to ‘gnawn’. One can only do that if it is a physical piece of bread.

    My last remark; if someone believes Jesus is talking about a figurative body to eat, He would also be speaking about a figurative (or symbolic) form of ‘flesh’ dying on the cross, because in both speeches he is talking about his OWN flesh. How could any Christian believe that Jesus didn’t really die on the cross, but only did it symbolic? I can’t. And for that same reason I believe Him as He says:

    “For My flesh is TRUE food, and My blood is TRUE drink.”

    It can’t be more obvious than that. If He meant it symbolic after all, he would have asked the disciples to return, so he could give the proper explanation of what he meant. But Jesus isn’t a bad teacher, so he didn’t have to change his word when speaking about flesh being REAL food, THAT’S the reason why some of the disciples left in John 6:66, they were unbelieving.

    And I’m sorry for all of you here who doubt all of these words from Jesus Himself

  43. Yes, you said it well Richard. The Christian life is not just symbolic or ideological. It’s the real life with true experience and factual worship and miraculous faith. The second letter to the Thesselonians chapter 2 verses 13 to 17 brings out clearly and directly the apostolic teaching to maintain the tradition and worship to have the real hope and consolation. The word of God is really living, not only at the time of creation or at the time of birth and life of Jesus, but also now in the modern world. His words has the power to creat, to cure and to transform even now. In the gospel of Mathew 16:13-20 speaks clearly the duty of the apostles who are the first members of the Church. I ask friendly to all my Protestant friends ,if they do not follow the tradition, from where they get even the holy Bible??? It’s not the product of Luther or the 15th century. Give us the solid response precise and up to the point (expect from the New Testament, probably from Gospals… Because you people have the habit of taking suitable points from different parts of the bible which has contextually nothing to do with it!!!)
    I conclude totally my conversation in this site with an invitation and challenge to all my Protestant brothers… The official prayers of the Catholic Church is found in the Holy Missal and the Breviary. The celebration of the Holy Eucharist is in the Holy Missal. I challenge each one of you to read it and find out a single possibility of demonic worship in the Eucharistic celebration. To find it easily, there is a application for Apple and Google play named -“iBreviary”- if you find out something solid and truly convincing I will leave my priesthood and leave the catholic faith. The catholic faith is not rigid or closed like the Islamic fith and teaching. It’s an open book and totally free faith in Triniterian God through Jesus Christ with the help of Holy Spirit. May God bless us all because each and every human existence are sons of God without separation. I stop here my words with love because Jesus said it’s not fair to throw pearls Infront of pigs…

  44. “The Christian life is not just symbolic or ideological. It’s the real life with true experience and factual worship and miraculous faith.”

    So then why does the average papist have to use statues, relics etc, and why do they get into a frenzy because a statue weeps blood or oil?
    One of the funniest videos on youtube is the one where the 4 doddery old men end up dropping a mary idol on the floor…..

    “The catholic faith is not rigid or closed like the Islamic fith and teaching.”

    What, as in “no salvation outside the catholic church”?
    You need to read church history-not from the point of view of papist writers and officials, but from the point of view of those who were on the receiving end of catholic totalitarianism….Why dont YOU have a go at reading the writings-from death row-of John Bradford for instance?

  45. I ask those who believe this eucharistic transubstantation ceremony: Is there anything in the Bible that says Jesus will come down from Heaven and offer His blood and body not just once more but each and every time for the forgiveness of sins??? Come on, it is very explicit in the Bible that Jesus will ONLY come again on the judgment day!! Can the RCC priests really demand that Jesus come down when they call Him for this ceremony? I don’t think so! So who are the RCC priests calling to come down?? And who are you bowing down to every time?? What a scary thought!! Jesus Himself said that the act of breaking bread and drinking wine during the “last supper” is for remembrance (Luke 22:19); He didn’t say He will come down and that we will actually be eating His flesh and blood in the form of wafer and red juice/wine?!?! Please please read the Bible and know the Truth!!

    1. Bro, just wondering. How should one reconcile the view that breaking bread at the last supper was just a symbol with ‘those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves’? http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/11-29.htm

      Gosh, I’m wondering why is it considered so serious if the bread was just a symbol? Hmmm…

      1. The Corinthians were not in good shape.

        1Co 11:17 Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse.
        1Co 11:18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
        1Co 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

        Anyone who takes communion as a sinner is guilty of the body and blood of Jesus. Before we were saved we guilty also. This very serious with the Lord. That is why they were getting sick and damned. So, the Lord had Paul write them to get themselves straightened out.

      2. Here is another reason,

        1Co 11:20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord’s supper.
        1Co 11:21 For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken.

      3. Bro Dave, thanks. But it seems even the early Christians believe that the bread is really Christ’s flesh. And even Christ says that the bread that he gives is his flesh for the life of the world several times in John 6. Could it be that the Catholic church is right?

        http://www.cathcorn.org/foof/21.html

  46. When Jesus was talking about eating His flesh and drinking His blood maany disciples murmrued, also the Jews.

    Joh 6:52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

    Joh 6:60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

    Jesus is God in the flesh not a piece of bread. It was a parable like so many others He spoke. In order to clear up their confusion He said,

    Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

    There are not millions of Jesus’s sitting in wafers around the world. Jesus is on the right hand of God.

    Mat 22:44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?

    Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
    Heb 10:11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
    Heb 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
    Heb 10:13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

    The Eucharist is just another Catholic false doctrine, one of many.

  47. Hello li,
    Jesus spoke in parables. They aren’t to be taken literally, but spiritually. Jesus is not a door or a rock and we aren’t sheep. The Spirit reveals the true meaning. Jesus is the bread of life. It doesn’t mean He is a piece of bread. It means He is what we live by. We can’t live without food and Christians can’t live without Jesus.

    1. Go read Dr. Brant Pitre’s book “Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist,” and let’s talk about your statement.

  48. The Roman Catholics are not the only ones who believe in the Real Presence of Jesus in the bread and wine. This is the same belief held by all Orthodox Christians (Eastern, Coptic, and Syrian). Basically, it’s believed and has ALWAYS been believed by the OLDEST Christian churches (who were the one Church in the beginning). It was believed by the Apostles, as they warned about taking it “unworthily” and bringing condemnation on oneself (it’s in the Bible, as a previous poster mentioned). If it were “just a symbol,” what would it matter if you took it unworthily? It wasn’t until the creation of thousands of new Christian sects that these newer religions stopped believing. If you don’t want to believe it, don’t, but at least educate yourself and realize that this was not a novel invention of the Catholic Church. Now whether or not these ‘miracles’ are of divine or demonic origin, it may vary, but that doesn’t prove or disprove anything.

  49. I find it mildly amusing when supposed “Bible-believing” Christians choose to gloss over the biggest teaching in the whole bible (Jesus as the Lamb of the NEW COVENANT sacrificed at Calvary on the cross). How can you claim “Sola Scriputura” but not literally believe the words of Jesus? John 6 is quite clear- no ifs, and’s, or buts about it.

    And by the way, what DID the Jews of the Old Testament do with their Passover Lamb who SAVED their firstborn children from death? Oh, yeah… eat it! Jesus IS the LAMB sacrificed for all of us… what do we do with him? Eat HIS body!

    Read Dr. Brant Pitre’s Book, “Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist” or Scott Hahn’s book “The Lamb’s Supper.” Then come back at me with your arguments against the ONE, TRUE, HOLY, APOSTOLIC church founded by Christ 2000 years ago (Notice it wasn’t started 150, 250, or 500 years ago).

  50. I don’t need any theological explanation like (transubstantiation) to believe that the Eucharist is truly the body and blood of Christ Himself because this is the only thing that the Devil has not been able to reproduce since 750 AD. There are many that he did and deceived many people… but this one??? I doubt it.

    1. Dear Stephen

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      You wrote:

      I don’t need any theological explanation like (transubstantiation) to believe that the Eucharist is truly the body and blood of Christ Himself because this is the only thing that the Devil has not been able to reproduce since 750 AD.

      My comment:

      Amazing. This is the first time I have read such a defense of the Eucharist. That the devil lost some powers in 750 A.D. Truly a “super-revelation”. Please explain.

  51. I would not eat that Eucharist,unless my own eyes saw it occur maybe im a doubting Thomas,but i would want to know were that blood come from.There is no point to DNA sampling as there is nothing to compare it to,that beating flesh is very odd all locked up in a box,looks more like an embryo,GOD does give signs and works through man but this is were we must use good judgement I dont think Jesus spilt that much blood at his crucifiction even

  52. The Hebrew scriptures prohibit the consumption of blood. 

    Deuteronomy 12:23
    Only be sure that you do not eat the blood; for the blood is the life, and you shall not eat the life with the flesh. 

    The blood is the life and to eat the blood of animals is to live the life of animals.

    Jesus however is God. 

    John 6:53
    So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; 

    To drink the blood of Jesus is to drink and live the life of God. 

    The Greek word for “life” used in John 6:53, is “zoen” which means, “divine life of God imparted to us”.

    There are other Greek words for “life” that St. John could have chosen, such as “bios” which simply means “life”.

    The fact that he chose the word “zoen” is very significant.

    The pictures in this article have not been approved by the Catholic Church and could be forgeries for propaganda purposes.

  53. While you protestants unfortunately are too busy denigrating the only true Church founded by God himself, and truly believe that scripture is the only source of truth (adopting an approach not different from that of Muslim Salafis/ISIS brainwashed tools), forget this:

    John 6:53

    Have a good day and please convert your hearts. Ut sint unum.

    1. Dear Catholic from the Vatican.

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      The Roman Catholic Churrch was formed in Rome around 320 A.D. Placed under the atuthority of the emperor. Since the pagan Emperor’s of Rome were supposed to be “gods” in the flesh, you are right. Their “god” did form the Roman Catholic Church. But this “god” is not God of the Bible, God of Israel, God of the Hebrews. But a mortal copy-cat.

  54. Do you know that the Church has condemned the so called Naju miracle? And even excommunicated Julia Kim?
    So don’t judge the Church when the Church herself is on the look out for hoaxes and signs of the devil.
    The Church say it may the devil is at work in these “miracles.”

  55. Jesus commands everyone during the last supper. :” Matthew 26:26 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is my body.” “Matthew 26:27-28 Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you.This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins”

    It is a command from Jesus. It is not cannibalism. In my own opinion, these miracles happened not for the Catholics but for the protestant so that they will believe that it is truly Jesus Body and blood. So Jesus said in John 6:53 “Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.” – See protestants and other religion will keep you away from eating and drinking the flesh of Jesus so that you will not have life like them.

  56. The catholic way doesn’t match, or come close to any examples in the bible. Paul giving bread to the hungry, people eating together. Not that protestants do it any better or at all. Perhaps Catholics doing it their own way is like eating their own bread and drinking their own wine.

    Isaiah 49:26 I will make your oppressors eat their own flesh; they will be drunk on their own blood, as with wine. Then all mankind will know that I, the LORD, am your Savior, your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.”

    Making people eat flesh and drink blood seems to be being called a just reward for people who act like bloodthirsty animals, murderers.

    Rev 16:6 for they have shed the blood of your holy people and your prophets, and you have given them blood to drink as they deserve.”

  57. Acts 2:46 Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts,

  58. There is a very presumable scientific reason for the red color. I am wondering that this is not mentions in the artical or comments because it was already discussed many times.
    Often this color is derived by a bacterium called Serratia marcescens and it is better not to eat this eucharistic bread when it is coverd with that bacteria.
    If the bacteria is send by god to give is a sign is to leave for everybodys personal believe.

  59. This whole thread, 5 years worth! saddens me. Jesus’ will is that Hus followers be One, as He and the Father are One. I am a Catholic convert from Evangelical Protestant. Most of my family and friends are still Protestant. They love the Lord, as I do, and are my brethren. The Catholic Church respects Protestants as brothers in the Lord. They treat converts from other Christian churches as Christians – I wasn’t re-baptized as a Catholic. Sure we don’t agree on everything but we serve the same Lord. We are Christians. We are brothers and sisters. I could go into great detail as to why I became a Catholic after 45 years as an Evangelical, but that would just bring on the criticism. For my Evangelical brothers and sisters, just know that Catholics are saved, just as you are, by the blood of Jesus shed for us on Calvary. When you tell Catholics that they are going to Hell, are idolaters, and need to leave the RCC and get saved, you don’t know what you are talking about, and you are in opposition to the unity in Christ that is His will.

    1. Dear robinspreitler

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      Welcome to this site.

      You are entitled to have your opinions about Catholics being saved, etc. But I need to see scriptures. When a Roman Catholic pray to Mary, where have you fond permission in the Bible for this kind of worship?

      1. It seems that the whole point of this blog site is to oppose Catholicism, so I’m certain there’s nothing I could say that would change your mind. I don’t want to argue. I just think it’s very sad when there is a lost world that needs Jesus our common Savior, that you choose to focus your efforts on opposing Catholics. It is this type of animosity between brothers that causes the unbelieving world to discredit us.

      2. Dear robinspreitler

        Shalom, and love in Jesus.

        I must read from your reply, that you are not interested in debating scripture. I need to know your possition on important issues.

        Please answer:

        1. Was Mary, the mother of Jesus, born without sin? Did she live a life without sinning, and was she taken up in Heaven in soul and body sinless?

      3. Let me ask this in reply; when people pass away are they dead and there is no after life? Is talking to someone a form of worshipping them? Of course not. Do you worship your boss? No, but you do speak with him/her. If, when people pass away and they have achieved life after death on earth, and speaking to someone in and of itself is not worship, why is it wrong to speak with the dearly departed. Veneration and worship are two different things.

      4. Thomas Aquinus

        Shalom, and love in Jesus.

        Worship the living God, and Him alone.

        To worth ship, is to give honor and praise to Him who deserve it. The Creator, ONLY!.

        Romans 1:24-25

        Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshipped and served created things rather than the Creator – who is for ever praised. Amen.

        Read it. Believe it. And OBEY!.

  60. Mary was saved as we are by the blood of her Son Jesus. Whether she was saved by being forgiven of her sins, or by an act of His grace was preserved from sin, is irrelevant to our salvation. It is something we will likely disagree on but in no way affects either your salvation or mine. Also, what happened to her body when she died is also irrelevant to our salvation. God could certainly take her to heaven if He chose. He took Enoch and Elijah to heaven. We don’t worship or pray TO Mary. We ask her to pray for us. We believe that the church is all believers, on earth or in Heaven. We ask believers in heaven to pray for us as we would ask our pastor or brother or sister in the Lord on earth to pray for us.
    My point isn’t to prove doctrine on areas where we disagree. There will always be disagreements on doctrine. There are significant disagreements between various Protestant denominations as well. My point was that we agree that we are sinners, saved by Grace, made possible because God chose to intervene in human history by sending His son to sacrificialky die on our place; to take the punishment that we deserved. We can know Him by faith, and entering into a relationship with Him we can have our sins forgiven. We have much more in common than what separates us. God bless.

    1. Dear robinspreitler

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      You wrote:

      We don’t worship or pray TO Mary. We ask her to pray for us. We believe that the church is all believers, on earth or in Heaven.

      My reply:

      I am sorry. You have come to the wrong place. This is a site for people who are interested in the Word of God. If you are not able, or willing to debate on scripture, I am simply wasting my time. Please leave News That Matters.

  61. John 6:53-58 you will see that after Jesus told the disciples to eat His body and drink His blood that many many of them left Him.

    If Jesus meant it symbolically, they would have had no issue and would have symbolically done what He said but they knew what Jesus meant and like you they probably called it disgusting and demonic so they left him.

    He turned then to his apostles and asked if they too would leave Him. They stayed with him and are still with God today in paradise.

    I shall pray for those of you who are still walking away with those disciples from communion with God through the body and blood of Christ. I shake pray that God reveal to you the true nature of His presence in the bread and wine and hey… if you still feel that we worship the devil then my prayers shouldn’t phase you because you should believe that the devil’s snares are kept from you by God’s power and if we Catholics are not canabals and devil worshippers and are actually following Jesus through the scriptures as we claim then you’re welcome.

    One last thing, God is love and pours out mercy and grace and He requires love from us for Him and for each other. Stop attacking your neighbours, instead do what Jesus would do. Love your neighbour as God loves you. Let that love come across as love not attack.

    1. Roche,

      There is no attack in teaching you what is correct in the Word of God.
      Jesus Christ said: 2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

      What the catholics have done is twist the Word of God. What you bow down to pray to (the pope) is a sinner like us. What you’ve bowed down and prayed to (Mary) is not in the Word of God. You even take your dead popes, and kiss they’re decaying flesh. Where does it say in the Bible to do this?

      The Lord clearly says in Matthew 12:46-50
      Jesus’ Mother and Brothers
      46 While he was still speaking to the people, behold, his mother and his brothers stood outside, asking to speak to him.[a] 48 But he replied to the man who told him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49 And stretching out his hand toward his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”

  62. on the issue of Mary refer to the writings or even transcripts from talks given by Scott Hahn. he has researched these matters in the bible and in writings by theologians and has all the answers you seek.

  63. John chapter 9…the whole thing. If Jesus has said to eat him, but man says it is folly….. I will still follow jesus.

  64. Hi there. I too left the Roman Catholic Cult. I find the miracles to be false demonic manifestations as well. Catholics error in their view on the Communion cause they fail to realize Jesus’s way of speaking in parables (hidden code language). When Jesus said eat my flesh/drink my blood and spoke of being broken bread and wine, he was referencing communion with him through suffering, identity with him, and being broken and poured out in the earth so others can live. Eating something meant partaking of the nature of that thing in biblical sacrificial terms. Through communion we are making a proclamation to live in his likeness. To have our lives
    .hidden in Him. Everything we do is tied to His life and death now.

    1. Dear Michelle Enriquez

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      You wrote:

      Catholics error in their view on the Communion cause they fail to realize Jesus’s way of speaking in parables (hidden code language).

      My reply:

      You have hit the nail on the head. The Pope do not believe in the Word of God, where is should be understood litterally. And the Pope demand that his followers whould take the word litterally, where Jesus obviously wants us to take his message figuratively. Like the ide of eating him in the bread and wine.

  65. What was Jesus’ Church called from the year 33 to the year 300?

    Historical records please.

    Who were the successors to the Apostles and who were their successors during those years?

    Historical records pkease.

    Who were the true Christians during those years?

    Historical records please.

    Which was the Church that Jesus spoke about when he said the gates of hell will not prevail against it?

    Historical facts please.

    Didn’t Jesus’ Church last through these first 300 years? What was it called? Who ran it when Jesus ascended? Who were the followers of this Church?

    Here’s a hint … Look up any denomination in an encyclopedia. If it was founded after 33, that aint it!

    It is so cute to see people trying to deny Christ’s Church as they are totally oblivious to the historical fact that there is no contender other than the Catholic Church.

  66. So am I to assume by your writing that these Eucharistic Miracles are demonic? Is that your conclusion based on scripture verses that you arbitrarily pulled out of the bible to support your position? (which don’t by the way!) Why are these incidents more demonic than miraculous? I’m not sure what, or who, got into your head but your conclusion that Catholics are cannibals because we believe in the true presence of Christ in the Eucharist is fanatical. Was it just some pictures and a video that disgusted you that brought you to your conclusions? I’m sorry that your faith was so weak that this was all it took to turn you away.

    Finally, here a bible verse quote for YOU: And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying “This IS my Body, which is given for you. Do this to remember me” Luke; 22:19. I don’t see this scripture verse cited in your article. then again, why would we? Doesn’t exactly fit your argument, does it.

    I don’t judge you for your position. I read your article with interest. It is not for me, or anyone else, to judge. What a shame though, that you feel it necessary, or even appropriate, to judge others. God bless you.

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