I have been challenged to explain why I feel the Catholic Jesus is a copy of the true Messiah, Jesus of Nazareth.
That there will be copies is confirmed in the teaching of the Jewish Apostles Paul.
2 Corinthians 11:4
«For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough».
This is a list of obvious differences between the copy-cat of Rome, and the true Jewish Messiah Jesus of Nazareth.
In regards to Salvation:
Jesus of Nazareth: He saves today
Jesus of Rome: He will have to wait till you enter Purgatory. No surety of salvation before death.
In regards to dominion:
Jesus of Nazareth: He is a Jew, the head over the house of Jacob forever. The King of the Jews.
Jesus of Rome: He is the head over the Roman Catholics.
In regards to glory and honor:
Jesus of Nazareth: Is a jealous God. Do not share His glory with anyone but His Father God.
Jesus of Rome: He do not mind sharing His glory with his mother, saints and madonna’s.
In regards to worship of wood and stone:
Jesus of Nazareth: Is the author of the 2nd commandment, that forbid idols.
Jesus of Rome: He do not mind being presented and worshiped as an idol.
In regards to prayers for the dead:
Jesus of Nazareth: Pray only in His name. Not to the dead.
Jesus of Rome: He tells us to pray to and for the dead, saints and Madonna’s.
In regards to the dead prophet and the risen Lord:
Jesus of Nazareth: No longer on the cross. The empty cross and grave sign of victory.
Jesus of Rome: He do not mind that his followers still keep Him nailed to the cross.
In regards to exclusivity of Salvation:
Jesus of Nazareth: He is the only way to salvation
Jesus of Rome: His followers have started to tell us that that there is salvation in other religions.
In regards to his Vicar on Earth:
Jesus of Nazareth: He appointed the Holy Spirit as His vicar on Earth.
Jesus of Rome: He appointed a Pope as his vicar on Earth.
In regards to exclusivity of use of Holy Father:
Jesus of Nazareth: He represent the God the Holy Father.
Jesus of Rome: He appointed a Pope to be called the Holy Father, a name the Bible reserve to God.
In regards to all followers as priests:
Jesus of Nazareth: His followers are called to be priests in the Royal priesthood.
Jesus of Rome: He can only use priest that is faithful to the Pope.
In regards to the forbidden name of Queen of Heaven:
Jesus of Nazareth: He told through his prophet Jeremiah not to worship the Queen of Heaven.
Jesus of Rome: His Vicar the Pope tells us to keep statues of the Queen of Heaven.
In regards to prayer to his mother:
Jesus of Nazareth: He told us not to pray to his family. Not even his mother.
Jesus of Rome: He demands prayer to his mother.
In regards to him being white or colored:
Jesus of Nazareth: Walked in the sun. Most likely dark complexions.
Jesus of Rome: Is a pale skinned blue eyed European.
In regards to the Jewish people and Israel:
Jesus of Nazareth: Is the Lion of Judah, and the root of Jesse. He is coming back to his own people, back to Jerusalem.
Jesus of Rome: His followers in the Vatican claims the Jews have occupied the Holy land and Jerusalem. No talk of His return.
In regards to His Father God:
Since Jesus of Rome is a «Jesus» on the outside of Biblical truth, He are many times in serious disagreement with his father.
A good example is in regards to all the promises given to the Jewish people, and the restoration of the state of Israel.
Since Jesus of Nazareth said: «I and the Father are one», the copy in Rome is a liar and a deceiver.
Rome teachers blasphemy, and present a perverted gospel.
If you do not repent, and continue to put your trust in the wrong Messiah, you will end up in Hell.
This is the truth.
First published 01.11.2009.
Written by Ivar
Banjara Origin News 
it great to see the truth is getting out there
Dear Sakhile.
Thanks for this comment. May the God of Israel use His Messiah to bless you with all kinds of Heavenly blessings. In the name of Y´shua. Amen.
Very Good….Very Good…! Jesus said ‘Repent & Believe’…Paul through The Holy Ghost tells us (3 times) in
Galatians 1:6-9 (3 times) I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Galatians 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Corinthians 15:1-58 Explains The Gospel very clearly!
1 Corinthians 15:1-58
Shabbat Shalom Andrea,
I think that it was yesterday that we talked about Yeshua (Jesus) being The Torah (Word) made flesh. So the Torah is all about Him, as is the rest of the Scripture.
Yeshua is the Door that every person must walk through, to enter into eternal life. This applies to everyone. There isn’t one door for catholics, another for jews, there is one Shepard and one flock. The scriptures are very clear on this point. Anyone who knocks on this Door and ask Yeshua to be their covering for sin and their Shepard, will be answered.
These last days will be littered with false messiah’s and false prophets. With this in mind we must be very carefull not to allow our own walk with the Lord to be compremised.
This is how Satan works; he mixes truth with lies, and in so doing he decives many, who would otherwise be saved. Here is an example, and most christians get very angry when the subject is brought up. GOd gave us the Feasts of the Lord, and Shabbat, which He calles His Feasts. GOd did not say that these are Israel’s feast. He say’s that they are His feasts, therefore, if you belong to the Lord then they are your Feasts as well. These feast are the times when GOd says that He will meet with us. These are Holy convocations. Most Christians refuse to celebrate these times with the Lord, instead they choose to celebrate holy days of their own making. Days that have their origins in pagan worship, they put a christian spin on them, and in ignorance and arrogants expect the Creator of heaven and earth to show up at them. They continue to mix the Holy with the profane, which is exactly how Satan operates. The whole jewish practice of keeping kosher was established by GOd as a protection. By doing this they don’t take the bait of Satan, and keep from mixing the Holy with the profane.
Here is an example of the prophetic nature of the feasts, It is called Rosh Hodesh, which is a new moon, not a full moon, but a new moon, this occures when the very first sliver of the moon is spotted over Jerusalem. Yom truah, the Feast of Trumpets, otherwise known as Rosh hashanah, cannot begin until the new moon is spotted. This is why it is a two day feast, it is because, no one knows the hour or the day. Yom Turah is widely believed to be when the heavenly trumpets are sounded triggering the rapture of all believers.
Christmas, and Easter, are the traditions of men, which have their roots in paganism. Yeshua never celebrated these feasts, nor did he ever tell us too. Yeshua fulfilled the Feast of Unleavened Bread, Passover, First Fruits, and Shavuot (Pentecost.) Got to go for now, will finnish another time.
Dear Denise
Sabbath Shalom, and love in Yeshua.
I hope and pray that you will not misunderstand, what I write in this reply.
I know about Yum Kippur. But I do not go to my neighbor on this day, and ask for forgiveness. I go to my neighbor quickly and and ask forgiveness, any day. When I have committed a mistake. To recognize that it is Yum Kippur in the Jewish World, have brought be close to the root of my faith, that is fully based on Biblical Judaism.
I question Christians who do not know what Yum Kippur is, and have no clue about Judaism at large. I also question Messianic Jews, who might feel we as non-Jews grafted into the true faith, shall start to observe certain sectors of the Law.
In the book of acts the students of Jesus debated this issue, and I will follow their conclusion.
I know when Sukkot is celebrated in Israel, and I have had a nice evening cup of coffee in a tent in Jerusalem. But I do not call my Christian brothers in Norway to live in tents in their gardens in October, neither demand that they shall travel to Jerusalem to celebrate this feast. But I rejoice with my Jewish brothers and sisters, who up hold these rich traditions, and do pay respect and tributes to all the feasts of Judaism.
Jesus never said that we needed to pay special attention to any feast, nor festival. Surely He did observed them all. In this way also, he full fills the Law for me, where I am not capable. He is my righteousness. I am not going to gain one by my own observance and good deeds.
But the Messiah demands mercy, justice and faithfulness among his children, who are living in a multicolored and fragmented Christian and Jewish community.
Denise says:
December 10, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Shabbat Shalom Andrea,…Denise, I’m sorry, I don’t know what you are talking about…I was responding to ivarfjeld’s explanation for the 2 Jesus …one false, one The Lord Jesus Christ..Please refresh me on when we discussed what you are talking about. Thank you for your patience.
So where was jesus buried and where is the disciples
Classic comparison.
Keep up your endurance in bringing the TRUTH to the blind like myself.
Hi All,
May peace be with you also,
(Joh 5:43) I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.(KJV)
Fellow “truth seekers” should check out this link…
http://www.yahshuaservant.com/jesus-not-his-name.htm
Joshua (YaHshua) is the Hebrew name.
Jesus is not really even a Greek name.
If you called out to me “Help me Joe”, I would not hear you.
If you called out to me “Help me Bob”, I would come and help you.
Cheers
Dear Bob.
Shalom
You wrote:
Joshua (YaHshua) is the Hebrew name. Jesus is not really even a Greek name.
My reply:
We have many times advised out readers to participate in a name-gathering-competition to once and for all settle the name of ‘God”.
There have been many good suggestions” God, Lord. Elohim, YHWH, Jave, Jehova, El Shadai, “I AM”, Lord God, Father God, and even “Holy Father”. Many good candidates for the correct name of the Messiah, has also been given as a free contribution: Immanuel, Emmanuel, Prince of Peace, The Gate, Jesus, Joshua, YaHshua, Yahushua, Yeshua, and even the greek versions Isus, or Iēsoûs.
As a Norwergain, I do not have to much to contribute. I am very sorry.
I know quite an amount of poor analfabets in India who call on him as “Yesu Mesi”. I like “Messiah, son of David, Have mercy on me”. I guess than I am safe.
Hi Ivar,
“Yesu” is Aramic I believe, and the Messiah spoke this also.
Some others are “Eesa”, “Ya’asu”, “YaH”, “YaH-u”.
Aramic names may be closer to truth than other transliterations, as
they were not trying to hide His “Holy Name”.
I guess my point is, everybody who thinks they’ve been “saved”
or “born again”, using the name of Jesus, may be in trouble.
As most translations of the Scriptures are copies of copies of copies.
Some mistakes were made because man is imperfect.
And all of the original scrolls are gone.
Even some of the NT scrolls recovered, like Matthew, were written in
Hebrew, not Greek.
However, the original Hebrew didn’t use vowels or punctuation.
Example:
(Luk 23:43) And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.(KJV).
Or:
“And YaHshua said unto him verily I say unto thee today,
shalt thou be with me in paradise”.
Just a simple comma changes the meaning…
It’s no wonder the Jewish people reject the name Jesus,
and rightly so, I believe.
Just plain common sense His name would be a Hebrew name.
After all, He was born from the tribe of Judah.
Even many of the Catholic Hymns are using the name YasHshua,
but are now being banned from usage.
How curious this is.
The devil doesn’t like us maybe getting to close to the truths?
(Dan 12:4) But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.(KJV)
I think this also includes spiritual knowledge in the “last days”.
Cheers and Blessings,
Bob
Dear Bob
Shalom.
Aramic names may be closer to truth than other transliterations, as they were not trying to hide His “Holy Name”.
My reply:
His “Holy name”.
Luke 1:49
for the Mighty One has done great things for me— holy is his name.
(end of scriptures).
Let me be a little bit rough. “Good morning Mr. Holy”. To all who feel “Holy” is the name of God, or that the name of God is “Holy”: You have missed the point.
God IS Holy. Everything about Him is Holy. The spirit of God is holy. His “name’ is not “Holy”. The process of Holiness has nothing to do with the championship of being most able to dig for his original “name”, and become able to pronounce his name correctly.
Do you really think the Messiah laughs at people seeking for Him, and trash those who can not speak or write Hebrew, ancient Syrian or what we call Aramic?
Let me remind you, that millions of Jews living in the diaspora when Jesus was born in flesh, spoke Greek. The Helenistic Empire of Alexander the Great (330 B.C) had brought Jewish traders deep into India.
“I am who I am”, was the angry reply from God to Moses. The Jewish man wanted to know the name of God. Jesus told us to address Him as Father. What a wonderful Messiah we serve.
Hi Ivar,
Sorry, I should have used “sacred name” instead.
And you missed my point, God, Lord, Adonai, Elohim, are
titles, which were used in place of the true name of the Father.
Scriptures use these (in reference to) the Creator and the Savior
over 6000 times.
I guess His Name isn’t important enough and then we can just pray to Santa, or Yoda.
Of course his NAME is Holy, but that is not His Name, duh!
Ask yourself: why have these “Names” been hidden from us?
I guess you don’t really care to know His real name, or want to.
(Eze 36:19) And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.
(Eze 36:20) And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the LORD, and are gone forth out of his land.
(Eze 36:21) But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.
(Eze 36:22) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name’s sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
(Eze 36:23) And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.
(Eze 36:24) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
See Ya
Dear Bob.
Shalom.
I am not saying we shall pray to God on the name of “Billy”. Neither is it “Franky”. What I am trying to say is that neither ‘Billy” nor “Frank” died for my sins at Calvary Hill in Jerusalem. Jesus did.
Are you ok with that?
Shabbat Shalom Ivar,
The Feasts of the Lord are not jewish feasts. Do the jews celebrate them ? Yes. We are not talking about the law here, though the law still is in force today. We are talking about times when GOd said for us to meet with Him, and these are the Feasts of the Lord. Jews celebrate the feasts through out the year, every year, and remain blind to the Messiah. My point is this; many christians are just as blind, take the easter sunrise service; what do you suppose would differentiate most christians from their pagan predisesors? They would gather to worship the sun and the goddess of fertility Ishtar, at sunrise. The only noticable differances would be their foot wear. Now it’s Jimmy Choos and Nikes, then it was sandles, and they changed the name from Ishtar to Jesus. For very good reasons GOd provided in His Word, protection by commanding us not to add ANYTHING or to TAKE AWAY anything from His Word. That I believe , means exactly what it says. That doesn’t mean go ahead and add your own feast, no matter how well intentioned they may be. Passover, First Fruits, Shavuot, Unlevened Bread, these are the Feasts that Yeshua fulfilled and they are the ones, that He celebrated, and with no instructions to celebrate anything else. Read Jeremiah: 6: 16-22, and note in verse 18, GOd is speaking directly to the NATIONS, and to the congregation what is among them. And in verse 1 He gives instructions to return to the ancient paths(the old ones). I have to go , have to bring my Grandson some place.
Dear sister Denise
Shalom.
Please do not neglect your grandson. And thanks for all your wonderful contributions to News That Matters.
I am aware, that even within the Messianic Jewish camp there is an ongoing debate of Torah observance. if I am not mistaken, the true faith was not limited to a few thousand Jewish souls, before 1967 A.D. If you want to make Torah observance a matter of salvation, I am afraid you have walked into a trap.
Man is saved by faith alone, in Yeshua alone, separated from observance and deeds. (works). The gospel of Torah observance is another form of New Judaism.
The Law is good and perfect. It convinces man of sin, and his incapability of gaining a righteousness of his own.
it was never meant for a Norwegian to celebrate Sukkot in a tent in his garden in October. There might be a meter of snow just outside his door. A simple not educated Nepali will enter the Kingdom of heaven just by pure grace. Screaming for mercy in the name of Jesus. Not even knowing where to put Jerusalem on the map.
AMEN AMEN AMEN!! I hear many yes ‘many’ who say ‘the Word of God don’t mean what it says, then they proceed to tell me what HE means and that includes the ‘Worldly Christianity’…sad, and very scarey! When I am told with an angry hateful spirit lurking at me, thru them, they say ”Where you there?” So how do you know for sure….?? I tell them..’No I was not there, but The Word was and HE says ‘this as I point to His Word’….with that I don’t win any Green Stamps and they get ‘applauded for bringing laughter to the group’….God help us God help us all!!! Where did we get those wounds….In the house of our friends!!! (relatives (Christian) folks and we just continue to pray for them! Even though the pain is like a javelin stabbed in your heart!
Are you involved with the Hebrew Roots movement??
My Jewish heritage is from my mothers side, my father was a Gentile. If by “Hebrew Roots,” you mean that I worship the GOD of Jacob, and His Son Yeshua, or that I keep the Lords Feast days, then yes, absolutely, I am part of the Hebrew Roots Movement.
I understand that there is a movement afoot, one that I know very little about, just enough to know that they try and slander Messianic believers.
I can tell you that the restoration of Messianic Congregation in these last days, is a work of the Holy Spirit, and the fulfillment of end times prophecy. It consist of both Jews and Gentiles worshiping the God of Jacob and His Son Yeshua, ” together, as one new man.”
Together, we have returned to the ‘ancient path,’ and worship in much the same way as the early church. God is gathering His people together, under one tent, and Satan hates it!
Amen,
Mike Hoggard does some excellent stuff on the Hebrew Roots movement, I think this movement is about bring people back under the law, rather than Grace..
Thank you for being so courteous etc in replying to me,
😀
shalom
Why would you want to shrink back to being under law. That makes everything that Christ did on the cross be for nothing
actually I am not under the Law, but under grace,,,
I was merely explaining what Hebrew Roots was about, in a very simplistic way.. 😀
That movement is anti Christ. The book of Hebrews teaches against shrinking back to that system. The new covenant did away with that
yes I am aware of that.
Blessings
Very true I think I should forward this to my catholic friends
Blessing and Shalom
REGARDING:
Jesus of Nazareth: He saves today
Jesus of Rome: He will have to wait till you enter Purgatory. No surety of salvation before death.
PURGATORY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SALVATION: THIS IS BEING “SAVED AS THROUGH FIRE,” AS THE APOSTLE ATTESTS!
1 Corinthians 3:15, “If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.”
THE PERSON IS ALREADY SAVED, BUT HOW THE PERSON BUILT UPON THE FOUNDATION OF CHRIST…MUST BE BURNED AWAY, WHEN IT WAS BUILT UNWORTHILY…! THIS IS THE FACT OF “PURGATORY”! THE PERSON IS ALREADY SAVED BUT MUST STILL SUFFER PURGING OF EVIL WORKS! ANY OTHER UNDERSTANDING OF “PURGATORY” IS A MISUNDERSTANDING!
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REGARDING:
In regards to prayers for the dead:
Jesus of Nazareth: Pray only in His name. Not to the dead.
Jesus of Rome: He tells us to pray to and for the dead, saints and Madonna’s.
THE WORD–JESUS–TELLS US TO PRAY FOR EACH OTHER AND TELLS US ALL WHO ARE CHRISTIAN ARE ALIVE, THIS SIDE, OR THAT SIDE, OF DEATH… WE ARE TO PRAY TO THE FATHER FOR ALL SAINTS–CHRISTIANS–, AND WE ARE TO ASK ALL SAINTS–ALIVE WITH CHRIST OR WITH US–TO PRAY FOR US, AND “THE MADONNA,” IS A SAINT, AS WELL! NOT TO DISCRIMINATE “THE SAINTS”!
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REGARDING:
Jesus of Nazareth: He appointed the Holy Spirit as His vicar on Earth.
Jesus of Rome: He appointed a Pope as his vicar on Earth.
HE APPOINTED ONE GROUP TO HOLD “THE KEYS,” AND GO! HE APPOINTED ONE MAN TO HOLD “THE KEYS,” AND “FEED MY SHEEP”! THAT IS A SHEPHERD ACTING ON BEHALF OF “THE GOOD SHEPHERD”! JESUS SENT THE HOLY-SPIRIT TO THE SHEPHERD OF THE SHEEP! GOD CALLS WHOM HE WILL TO REPRESENT HIM…AND…GIVES THE HOLY-SPIRIT…TO…ALL WHO REPRESENT HIM! HE SENDS THE HOLY-SPIRIT TO BE HIS PRESENCE…AND…HE SENDS HUMAN TO REPRESENT! HE SENT A GROUP, HE SENT AN INDIVIDUAL, AND WE ARE TO LISTEN TO THEM, AS WE LISTEN TO HIM! JESUS SAID! THEY APPOINTED OTHERS IN THE SAME WAY…AND…TOLD US NOT TO TRUST THEM ALL! OBEY! DO NOT TRUST! OBEY! DECEIVERS WILL COME! BOTH! JESUS APPOINTED PETER… JESUS APPOINTED THE APOSTLES! HIS REPRESENTATIVE! THIS IS FACT. WE ARE TO ‘CHECK’–AS PAUL DID–‘THE VICAR,’ OR REPRESENTATIVE, WHO APPEARS AFTER THE GENERATION OF THE APOSTLES; JESUS–AND THEY–WARNED US!
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Regarding:
In regards to worship of wood and stone:
Jesus of Nazareth: Is the author of the 2nd commandment, that forbid idols.
Jesus of Rome: He do not mind being presented and worshiped as an idol.
Jesus of Nazareth is the “image of the Father” CHOSEN BY THE FATHER… JESUS, not His “snapshot we carry around in our wallet,” IS WHAT WE WORSHIP, and “snapshots of other members of the family” ARE NOT WHAT WE WORSHIP, but WE REMEMBER THEM… God DID Say not to worship IDOLS! We DO NOT. God DID NOT SAY NOT TO DECORATE! He Himself SPECIFIED Representatives of pomegranates and CHERUBIM, FOR INSTANCE, in HIS TEMPLE! We post PHOTOS OF MISSIONARIES! We POST PHOTOS of LOVED ONES WHO PASSED ON! PEOPLE DID NOT HAVE PHOTOS! THEY HAD STATUES, PAINTINGS, AND STAINED GLASS! WE HAVE finger-PAINTING in Sunday School, PICTURES of JESUS, and ALL SORTS of IMAGES for TEACHING and REMEMBRANCE! SAME THING!
WORSHIP of any of THESE things is IDOLATRY; USE of THEM for REMEMBRANCE, TEACHING, and HONOR–NOT WORSHIP–is UNDERSTANDABLE!
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Well done Ivar. I know my comment will not show in your site, but I would like to let you know this one of the best articles you wrote on you site. But I would like also to point out that it will best to call Jesus by his original hebrew name Yahshuah.
IS THE MESSIAH NAME JESUS?
NO. When the Messiah walked the earth over 2000 years ago the name Jesus was not in Existence. The Messiah was a Hebrew Israelite from the Tribe of Judah; He lived as a Hebrew with a Hebrew Name given to him from Yah the father. The name Jesus is English; there is no J or J equivalent in the Hebrew language. Jesus is not the English translation of the Messiah’s Hebrew name. Jesus is a name created by men not by the Most High. The Hebrew Messiah name is Yahshuah, which means Yah’s Salvation or Salvation of Yah, his name tells you whom he is and what his mission is. He is Salvation; the very belief on his true name can get you salvation.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
John 2:23 Now when he was in Jerusalem at the Passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did.
John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Yahshuah is the Messiah, the Son of Yah; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of Yah, even to them that believe on his name:
Acts 3:16 And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.
Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
The name of the Messiah is very important you can’t get around it. You have to call upon him by his Yah given Hebrew name, as it states in Acts 4:12 no other name can be a substitute, no translation of his name. Only his true name given from Heaven which can be spoken in every language is your key to salvation. There is no need for a translation. You really need to get our audio lesson entitled “THE TRUE MESSIAH REVEALED” We go into details from scripture to fully explain the MISSION, NAME, IMAGE, AND TRUTH OF THE MESSIAH. Visit the Media page for more Information about our audio lesson.
Even though Jesus is in the KJV doesn’t mean it is not a mistranslation, the name Jesus did not appear in the original 1611 KJV because the letter J was not in wide spread use yet. Many of the newer bibles have corrected that mistake. Some such as “THE SCRIPTURES” use the messiah true Hebrew Name Yahshuah.
Now Ask Yourself how can Jesus be the True name when it didn’t Exist until 15-17 centuries after the Messiah earthly mission. As I stated, the Name Jesus was not in existence during ancient times and it wasn’t in existence at the translation of the KJV.
CAN I STILL USE THE NAME OF JESUS, EVEN IF THE FATHER KNOWS MY HEART?
NO, THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR YOU TO CONTINUE TO WALK IN IGNORANCE AFTER YOU HAVE RECEIVED THE TRUTH. Jesus is not the name of the Messiah; you have to call upon the Messiah by his true name. Let me prove this to you.
John 3:16 For Yah so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
I’ve heard many people who don’t want to use the Messiah Hebrew name use this scripture to justify their actions. Scripture does say whoever believe in the son of Yah shall have everlasting life. But what is that belief based on, what about the Messiah do you have to believe. Well the answer is given two verses down in verse 18.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of Yah.
Scripture says you are condemned already if you don’t believe on the name of the only begotten son of Yah. You have to believe in Yah’s Salvation Yahshuah. Your believe is based on his true name, his name tells us who he is and it lets us know his mission. Jesus is a vain name that means nothing, as you have seen from the previous question, the name Jesus was not in existence when the 1611 KJV translation came about. In ancient times what did they call the Messiah, remember they were Hebrews and they spoke the Hebrew Language, they didn’t speak English because English wasn’t invented yet. The answer is simple the people of that day called the Messiah by his Hebrew Name. Scripture even shows us that He told the Apostle Paul his name in Hebrew.
Acts 26:14 and when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
15 And I said, who art thou, Master? And he said, I am Yahshuah whom thou persecutest.
Yahshuah spoke to Paul in Hebrew and said his name to Paul in the Hebrew tongue, not English or Greek, but Hebrew. Paul was a Greek speaker he knew the Greek language (Acts 21:38), so why didn’t Yahshuah give him a Greek Translation of his name? Because there is no other name under Heaven given among men whereby we must be saved. A Greek name would be another name, Just like an English name is another name. The Messiah name is Yahshuah.
Lastly if you continue to call on the name of a pagan God, that’s what Jesus is he is the Pagan God of the Pagan Religion called Christianity. The scripture clearly lets us know that after we receive the knowledge of the truth and we continue to sin, there remains no more sacrifice for our sins. To answer the question if you can still use the name of Jesus even if the father knows your heart.
NO you can not use that name after you understand it is false. If you are truly seeking truth the father will guide you, he will show you the lie and it’s up to you to accept or reject it. If you reject the truth the father knows your heart is full of deceit. He knows all of our hearts, he knows who will accept and who will reject.
Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Dear AHARON ELAZAR
Shalom.
You wrote:
Well done Ivar. I know my comment will not show in your site,….
My reply:
As the editor in chief of this site, I have the authority to prove that your statement is false. Like the latest one.
In regards to the ‘god” “yah”, and His son, or whatever you claim him to be: “Yahshuah” is a false Messiah. Because the Messiah did not permit his children to defame people who can not speak Hebrew, neither is able to pronounce Hebrew words as the World Champions among us are able to do.
The Messiah set the name of God, once and for all. GOD THE FATHER. I have a Father in Heaven, and that is enough for me. He is no longer in the Temple in Zion. Nor do He rule from Zion. FATHER God rule from His throne in Heaven. When the Messiah returns, that is going to change.
He is the God of Abraham, Isaak and Jacob. That is also enough for me. I cry out for mercy in the name of Jesus. I do not know how the name of the Messiah will look in Japanese or Swahili, neither how the sound of His name will be on Japanese lips. But KING Messiah knows who His Children are, and who are not.
When someone claim that only a man who is able to correctly pronounce Hebrew words will be saved, I know I am speaking to a lost soul who present some strange form of New Judaism. You only do the devils work. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Amen Ivar
Amen!
Both to the article, and to this reply.
Dear AHARON ELAZAR,
I agree with you, although a bit too harsh on Ivar.
I think this subject is very valid and important.
Is this all part of the “Tower of Babble” language barriers?
Lol, maybe we all need to learn Hebrew.
At the very least the transliterations should have used the name
Joshua instead of Jesus.
I really believe the Holy Spirit of YaH is drawing me to some of these
things, as I’ve been digging for “truths” over the years.
I think in these “last days”, many new things will be revealed to us.
10 Lost Tribes returning home to Israel, (two sticks prophecy).
When we all have a common language (prophecy).
Still in the future.
My theory:
The New Testament, and The Old Testament are still separated,
much like the Jews and Gentiles (Christians) are separate.
And I think the final solution requires a joining together of sorts.
2 Keys, if you will, to unlock the secret door.
Orthodox Jews have Key # 1
Messianics have key # 2
Neither one by itself will unlock the door.
This can only happen when the Heavenly Father wants it to happen.
Side Note:
Way to much hate in the world and not nearly enough love.
Cheers and Blessings
Bob
Dear Bob.
Shalom.
You wrote:
At the very least the transliterations should have used the name
Joshua instead of Jesus.
My reply:
In Hebrew there is now “J”. So the “Hebrew Messiah” will surely send all men to Hell, that do not respect His limitation in understanding other languages than Hebrew.
What a hopelessly disconnected sect of people who believe “Hebrew” is the exclusive language of the Messiah.
What language to you think the Messiah spoke to Roman officers ruling in Jerusalem?
The Messiah could not communicate in Latin?
Do you really feel the Messiah is not willing to listen to a prayer made in Norwegian, or Greek?
Do you think He do not appear to a Chinese, and speak Chinese to Him in visions and dreams?
When the Jews was exiled from Zion in 70 A.D, and the Jews started to become assimilate into different cultures. Did the Messiah also get lost?
Can the Messiah speak Spanish? What about Jiddish?
Jews who came home to Zion from exile in Russia, must have found it difficult to find the way, not being able to read Hebrew.
And a small point, from the very beginning:
Did God speak Hebrew to Adam and Eve also? Was it because of her faulty understanding of Hebrew, that Eve misunderstood the message?
Please get your acts together.
Aharon,
The Holy Spirit inspired the GREEK New Testament, written by Jews, and the Name Iasous is the name He inspired. It is true that Yeshua, or Yehoshua is the same name, but the name God inspired is Iasous. Jesus is a transliteration of that name.
Since it is possible to follow a false Jesus, and still be lost, it is equally possible to follow a false Yeshua, or Yehoshua. Whatever name you call Him, he must be the Saviour of the Bible, both Old and New Testaments, or you are still lost!
Shalom,
Dan Knezacek
Hi Ivar,
I said that I wanted to address some nuggets found in the Feast of the Lord. I know that you are aware that Yeshua fulfilled the Spring Feasts with His first coming, and so He will fulfill the Fall Feasts with His second coming. The question here is will you be ready? You said that we were not commanded to celebrate the Feasts; please read Genesis 1:14, Then God said, let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and for years. Strongs #226, signs, a signal or a becon. Seasons, Moed, these are the Feasts, not summer spring, fall. So we are to use the lights in the heavens to determine when to celebrate His Feasts. Notice that they are not Israel’s Feasts, they are His Feasts.
Leviticus 23:2, “Speak to the chrildren of Israel, and say to them; The Feasts of the Lord, which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, these are My feasts.”
You said that Yeshua never told you to celebrate any of the feasts. The above passages should give you pause, to rethink your position. If You remember that Yeshua taught by example and also in parables. Read the parable about the man who shows up at the kings wedding without a wedding garment. Note that he is bound hand and foot and cast into outter darkness. There are some interesting customs that are practiced on Yom Kippur. Traditionally, in the evening service people wear white garments, men wear a kittel, which is a white garment that he also wears on his wedding day. So if you are not celebrating the Lord’s feasts, you won’t be watchiing for Yeshua’s return, you will be caught off guard, and you won’t have your wedding garment.
There is an incredible web site called, elshaddaiministries.us when you get on the site scroll down and on your left you will see an offer for the Feasts of the Lord, click it, you will then see 4 cd’s right in a row. Click on them and you can read or listen for free. This is the best presentation that I have ever viewed. You should buy the set, it is one of the best investments that you will ever make. Think about this; Yeshua never told us to celebrate Christmas, or Easter, He taught by example, and he celebrated the feasts of the Lord. If you are grafted into Israel, why wouldn’t you celebrate the same feasts? May the Holy Spirit be your teacher.
Shalom Denise after reading your reply to Ivar I can say that today we r not supposed to celebrate any feast or festivals our main focus is on Yeshua and follow His teachings not what He did ,He was born under the law to redeem those who are under the law ,like wise He had to go to the temple ,synagouge etc to preach as people gather mainly during all these Sabbaths including the 7th day if we mix these laws today then we are committing spiritual adultery .The word law is very common but it is not specific, with the temple gone most of the laws in the old testamentalso are annulled.My conclusion is no worship of idols or images not to get involved with any festivals like christmas newyear easter as these r all forbidden by God as He said in 1jn 5v19.and love our neighbour as your self Mt 7v 12.
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Dear Denise
Shalom.
You wrote:
Yeshua never told us to celebrate Christmas, or Easter, He taught by example, and he celebrated the feasts of the Lord. If you are grafted into Israel, why wouldn’t you celebrate the same feasts? May the Holy Spirit be your teacher.
My reply:
In a few days time, is will be Hannukah. I am sure God of the Bible will not punish anyone, who celebrate this Jewish festival. Later the same week, hundreds of millions of people will celebrate Christmas. I am also positive that God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will not punish those who celebrate this festival either, as long as they honor the Son.
I do light candles for Hannukah. Even though the war of the Maccabeans seems to be of lesser importance, in regards to the teaching of the Messiah. I also look forward to celebrate Christmas with my family. Many of them not saved. I will highlight the Son, and tell them that a great savior of the Jewish people was born in flesh. He also shed his blood for the gentiles in Norway, who must submit to Him if they want to live.
Jesus my Lord did not die on the cross to bring the gentiles out of the nations, take them home to Israel and make them “proper Jews”. But He demands that we treat the Jewish people with dignity and respect. Judaism is the root of my faith. The Jewish people are my brothers and sisters.
Dear Ivar,
Thank you for this excellent article that clearly shows that the Roman Catholic version of Jesus is blasphemy.
The billions that sit on pews each week deceived by this unholy, damned “religion” — who call themselves Christians but who have been exposed by the Lord Himself as being nothing more than pawns in the hand of satan — WORSHIP IN VAIN. They have twisted and mocked the true Gospel of Jesus Christ beyond recognition. The Lord says that these followers of the lie will be REMOVED from the Tree of Life and from The Holy City — FOREVER.
Jesus shows His hatred in the book of Malachi for those who put His Name to disgrace through doctrines of demons and seducing spirits. “Oh that there were ONE among you who would shut the gates, that you might not uselessly kindle fire on My altar! I AM NOT PLEASED WITH YOU,” says the Lord of hosts, “nor will I accept an offering from you” (Malachi 1:10).
In Isaiah He said, “What makes you think I want all your sacrifices? I am sick of your burnt offering of rams and the fat of cattle. I get no pleasure from the blood of bulls.”
Roman Catholic “worship” is a despicable outward manifestation of demons and is a stench to a Holy God. Jesus compares it to VOMIT. In His message to the seven Churches He warned those who refused to repent, ” I will VOMIT you out of my mouth” (Rev:3:16).
He said, “They draw near to Me and honor Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me, “AND IN VAIN THEY WORSHIP ME”, says the Lord (Isaiah 29:13).
Jesus demands righteousness and worship that is done in spirit and truth. The endless lies coming from this system, in particular the lies about the deity of “Mary” and her status of goddess, will be harshly judged by a God who will NOT BE MOCKED. In a booklet put out by the Roman Catholic church entitled, “Questions and Answers about Mary” by Anthony M. Buono it says: “All favors granted by God to his rational creatures are granted in virtue of and because of Mary’s intercession. It is not necessary that we explicitly implore her intercession in our prayers. But whether we mention her or not, it is through her that we receive whatever we receive.”
This is blasphemy. Anyone following the Jesus of Rome or the Mary of Rome and can expect one thing for sure if they fail to repent:
ETERNAL DAMNATION.
Der JM.
Shalom.
Thanks for ministering on this blog. For Messianic Jews and Evangelical Christians, it is impossible not to be a little but rough on Roman Catholics. To accept them as Christians will be fatal for all of us.
Dear Ivar,
Blessings to you in Yeshua while we wait for His soon and glorious return!
Jesus was rough and did not mince words. He said, “And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts” (Malachi 4:3).
“For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do WICKEDLY shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch” (Malachi 4:1).
“And Jesus went to Jerusalem and found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables; And said unto them that sold doves, ‘Take these things hence; make not my Father’s house a den of thieves'” (John 2:14-16).
Thank you for your wonderful blog!
Hi Ivar,
I don’t know how long I will have internet access. I’m unemployed and so all the extras will soon have to go. Please keep me in prayer for a job. Not just any job, one where I will be able to have Shabbat off.
Dear Denise
Shalom.
Surely I will keep you in prayer. And more than that: If you have no place to stay, come and stay in my house. If you have nothing to eat, please come and take what you need from my fridge. I wish I could offer you a job. Please send me an email, so we can have some private conversations: ivarfjeld@yahoo.com
May Yeshua the Messiah pay special attention to you in your tough days of testing. Amen.
Hi JM,
If anyone has any doubts that Satan is preparing the way for the rise of the antichrist; and we already know how evil Obama is. However, just consider for a moment the so called conservative candidates; Romney, a Mormon… they believe that one day they will be gods. What was Satan’s proclomation? “I will be like G’d.” The other two, Gingrich and Santorum, both are Catholics, and they believe in the Infalability of the pope. What is his procolmation? The pope claims the title of the Vicar of Christ. So they believe that he takes the place oif Christ on the earth. This should send shivers down the spine of anyone who is not asleep. That proclimation alone is sufficiant enough for anyone to run away from the catholic faith. Yeshua warned us that many will come in My Name saying..”I am the christ” and will decieve many.”
America is under judgement from the All Mighty. All of our “leaders” are corrupt. They all offer up plans for our recovery and make all sorts of promisses. However, not one of them has said that we need to FAST AND TO REPENT AS A NATION, so that G’d, in His mercy might relent and heal our land.
It is time that we stop looking to men to save our nation, we should be looking to Yeshua only.
Ditto on the above comment
Very good article. Very well done.
Well said.
Just as Rachel took some of her father’s idols when she left home with Jacob, the man of God, so many protestants still cling to many errors of Rome! This is why I believe the “daughters of the Harlot” of Revelation 17 are protestant churches, including Baptists. They have, to a great extent, created a Jesus in their own image!
I’ve noticed you gave absolutely no references. For example, you say that Jesus of Nazareth is the author of the 2nd commandment, that forbid(s) idols. You also say the the Jesus of Rome do(es) not mind being presented and worshiped as an idol.
What reference do you have to prove that the Jesus of Rome is worshiped as an idol?
Thank you.
Michael,
You only have to look at pictures, photos, and even visit a catholic church to realize that the Jesus of Rome is worshipped as an idol. The fact that the pope holds a statute, commands people to kiss bones and dead flesh, and pray to a mary in the form of a statue is proof enough.
Isaiah 44:6-20 Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god. Who is like me? Let him proclaim it. Let him declare and set it before me, since I appointed an ancient people. Let them declare what is to come, and what will happen. Fear not, nor be afraid; have I not told you from of old and declared it? And you are my witnesses! Is there a God besides me? There is no Rock; I know not any.” All who fashion idols are nothing, and the things they delight in do not profit. Their witnesses neither see nor know, that they may be put to shame. Who fashions a god or casts an idol that is profitable for nothing? …
You don’t need mary, you don’t need the pope. Only Jesus Christ can save you!
I find it interesting that you associate all statues with idol worship.
Are you unaware that it’s possible to erect statues without worshiping them?
Statues, like photographs, are merely representations of the subject. The statues are only wood, stone, or some other substance. They are not to be worshiped.
As a God-fearing Catholic, I resent all the Catholic-bashing that goes on in the world. It certainly cannot have the positive effect the Catholic-basher hopes to have.
Why do you do it?
Someone who has read your article recently, posted it to Facebook. I responded. Of course, the lady got mad. She wants to be able to bash the Catholic Church and we Catholics are supposed to fall right in step or else we’re deceived, lost in our sins, and on our way to a certain Hell.
I asked her if she would condemn Father Damien to Hell, or Father Maximillian Kolbe, or Mother Teresa. She never responded.
NO ONE Scripturally has the right or power to ‘condemn anyone to Hell ”except” The Lord…though ‘Christians ‘do’ have the right to
retain sins and/or to forgive them which they will be ‘retained or forgiven’…if you don’t believe that ”Rip that Scripture out and ‘Re-write your own Bible…The Catholics did and many high risen Bible Teachers of today have written their own also….so much so their Bibles have more ‘Commentaries in it than the Word of God written in it! Then you also have those who ‘have their own Books ‘along side of the Bibles which ‘they (like the Catholics) have added to the Word of God. tsk tsk…in all seriousness….you as well as we all will be held accountable for The Word…do you really want to take that chance that you ‘are wrong’…(smile)…it gets really in Arizona, and hotter in the Deserts, but far hotter in Hell ”IF” we (you included) don’t repent ‘and believe The Gospel of Jesus Christ and NOT THE GOSPEL OF ANY POPE!
Dear Michael Stafford
Shalom
You wrote:
Someone who has read your article recently, posted it to Facebook. I responded. Of course, the lady got mad. She wants to be able to bash the Catholic Church and we Catholics are supposed to fall right in step or else we’re deceived, lost in our sins, and on our way to a certain Hell.
My comment:
There is no one who wants to “bash” the Catholic Church. We simply love the Roman Catholics enough to tell them the truth. The Roman Catholic church is able to create enough problems for her self, and no one from the outside needs to help her.
The best examples are the tens of thousands of Catholic children who have been raped by their priests. If the Catholic parents had any respect for the truth, they would have made a huge exodus from this religious movement. But they do not. Surely the curses moves on from the parents to their children, for all who rejects the truth.
It is sad that you who are able to read the Bible, use multiple excuses for rejecting the truth. You keep on adoring, venerating and worshiping created things, and feel no shame about it. You let your priests loot your graves, and drag corpses, bones and skulls into your “Churches”. There seems to be no end of pain, agony and wickedness.
We who obey Jesus feel sad about all of this. Because we do not want anyone to perish. But those who refuse to repent and live in rebellion, will surely face judgment.
Please repent.
Dear Michael Stafford
Shalom.
Not all Roman Catholics are aware of the terror of the “Church” they are a member of.
Here are two links I would like you to read, before you post your next comment:
First: The skull and bones files:
https://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/category/vatican-skulls-and-bones/
Second: The files that display the sex crimes of the Vatican priesthood:
https://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/category/vatican-rapes-and-sexcrimes/
Michael,
What sort of bashing did I do? What I did was quote you the truth, which is the Word of God. See, people who do not want to see the truth, or want to interpret the truth in their own way, would say bashing would somehow say I was doing something demeaning to them. And yet, all I did was tell you the truth, which is what Christ has wants us to do.
You said: I asked her if she would condemn Father Damien to Hell, or Father Maximillian Kolbe, or Mother Teresa. She never responded.
My comment: Being a sinner who accept Christ herself, I cannot condemn you ro anyone to hell, for I’m far from perfect. I can however show you what Jesus says on the matter.
Revelation 21:8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
But Jesus loves you hat much that he wants you to turn away from the pope, from idolatry, and serve only him. He is the only one who can cast anyone into hell.
God Bless.
You said :
“You only have to look at pictures, photos,
and even visit a catholic church to realize
that the Jesus of Rome is worshipped as
an idol. The fact that the pope holds a
statute, commands people to kiss bones
and dead flesh, and pray to a mary in the
form of a statue is proof enough.”
I’m catholic and this is laughable and pathetic to say the least. Gloria, I know you and all who are part of this blog mean well but it doesn’t change the fact that you are spreading lies about Catholics with nor remorse and no care for evidence at all.
I can tell you now that anyone who practices worship of anything or anyone other than Jesus is scolded in the Church for in the bible and the Catechism of the Catholic Church it forbids idolatry of all sorts.
I don’t think I need to put the ten commandments down because we both know them. So I will just reference the Catechism of the Catholic Church for you :
CCC 2110 The first commandment forbids honoring gods other than the one Lord who has revealed himself to his people. It proscribes superstition and irreligion. Superstition in some sense represents a perverse excess of religion; irreligion is the vice contrary by defect to the virtue of religion.
2112 The first commandment condemns polytheism. It requires man neither to believe in, nor to venerate, other divinities than the one true God. Scripture constantly recalls this rejection of “idols, [of] silver and gold, the work of men’s hands. They have mouths, but do not speak; eyes, but do not see.” These empty idols make their worshippers empty: “Those who make them are like them; so are all who trust in them.”42 God, however,is the “living God”43 who gives life and intervenes in history.
2113 Idolatry not only refers to false pagan worship. It remains a constant temptation to faith. Idolatry consists in divinizing what is not God. Man commits idolatry whenever he honors and reveres a creature in place of God, whether this be gods or demons (for example, satanism), power, pleasure, race, ancestors, the state, money, etc. Jesus says, “You cannot serve God and mammon.”44 Many martyrs died for not adoring “the Beast”45 refusing even to simulate such worship. Idolatry rejects the unique Lordship of God; it is therefore incompatible with communion with God.46
2114 Human life finds its unity in the adoration of the one God. The commandment to worship the Lord alone integrates man and saves him from an endless disintegration. Idolatry is a perversion of man’s innate religious sense. An idolater is someone who “transfers his indestructible notion of God to anything other than God.”
Deear wandile93
Shalom.
You rwote:
I don’t think I need to put the ten commandments down because we both know them. So I will just reference the Catechism of the Catholic Church for you :
CCC 2110 The first commandment forbids honoring gods other than the one Lord who has revealed himself to his people. It proscribes superstition and irreligion. Superstition in some sense represents a perverse excess of religion; irreligion is the vice contrary by defect to the virtue of religion.
My comment:
I think it is very much needed to quote the 1st and 2nd commandment to expose the falsehood of the Roman Catholic religion, and in particular CCC 2110.
Exodus 20: 4
4 “You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.
5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,
6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.
(end)
The RCC breaks all of it, and makes a mockery out of the command of God.
A. They make images of created things.
B. That call pieces of stone and wood for holy.
C. They bow and pray in front of stone and wood, idols that can not hear. Images they have made with their own hands.
We who are not blind can see all this. And we will never present sin and blasphemy as holiness.
We will worship Jesus the Messiah in Spirit and in truth.
Ivar you wrote :
The RCC breaks all of it, and makes a
mockery out of the command of God.
A. They make images of created things.
B. That call pieces of stone and wood for
holy.
C. They bow and pray in front of stone and
wood, idols that can not hear. Images that
have made with their own hands.
My reply :
A) the problem is not making statues of pictures of anything for even GOD asked the Jews to make golden statues of to angels on the ark of the covenant. The problem is treating these idols as gods and worshipping them.
B) There I nothing wrong with this. Whatever we call holy is only holy because of the charism of God’s holiness bestowed upon whatever item or person is concerned. We acknowledge the work of the holy spirit in these persons or relics and than GOD for this.
C) We bow and kiss these relics not out of worship but out of reverence for what and whom they represent. God forbade bowing and all the likes if they are akin to ascribing worship to these things which in that case is idolatry. CONTEXT IS KEY IVAR.
To pray in fornt of of a statue is not idolatry at all. With that logic, praying in front of a wall is idolatry lol. Jews pray in front of the western wall of Herod’s temple out of reverence for what it represents. Are they committing idolatry? NO just as we pray in front of statues, icons and churches as well as shrines because of what they represent. It helps to better the spiritual connection with GOD.
Dear wandile93
Shalom.
The 2nd commandment is so easy to understand, that even small children understand. But they are cursed by their parents, who force them to sin.
It is so sad. It can never be wrong to obey God, to stop doing what he hates.
Dear wandile93
Shalom.
By the way. Jews do not bow down to images of angles. And they surely do not kiss them.
Dear wandile93
Shalom.
You wrote:
A) the problem is not making statues of pictures of anything for even GOD asked the Jews to make golden statues of to angels on the ark of the covenant. The problem is treating these idols as gods and worshiping them.
My reply:
God said: DO NOT MAKE. He is serious. I do not care what the Pope have told you. Even a 10 year old child understand why God have told us to NOT make. He can just look at Hindus, Catholics, Buddhists, etc, and the child will understand. God SHALL be worshiped in spirit and in truth by all who love Him.
B) There I nothing wrong with this. Whatever we call holy is only holy because of the charism of God’s holiness bestowed upon whatever item or person is concerned. We acknowledge the work of the holy spirit in these persons or relics and than GOD for this.
My reply:
This is like a fairy tale. The Pope has made up his own stories, and Roman Catholic parents force their children to do what is wrong.
What is “the work of the Holy spirit in a skull?
What is “the work of the Holy Spirit in a jaw bone?
What is holy in dressing up skeleton and corpses, and display them inside the Church, so Catholics can bow before such items?
To bow and pray in front of, and even kiss,such items is quite morbid and grotesque. Surely only cursed or insane human beings can participate in such, and in public brand it as “holy”.
And this kind of religious activities gives Jesus a bad name. Millions of people hold their fingers over their nose, and will never have anything with people who call them selves “Christians”. The most stern judgment and eternal torture is what is waiting on people who claim to know “Jesus”, but makes a mockery out of Him.
C) We bow and kiss these relics not out of worship but out of reverence for what and whom they represent. God forbade bowing and all the likes if they are akin to ascribing worship to these things which in that case is idolatry. CONTEXT IS KEY IVAR.
My reply:
“We bow and kiss these relics not out of worship but out of reverence for what and whom they represent”.
Why not stop bowing down to created things, and not kiss them?
You wrote:
To pray in fornt of of a statue is not idolatry at all. With that logic, praying in front of a wall is idolatry lol. Jews pray in front of the western wall of Herod’s temple out of reverence for what it represents. Are they committing idolatry? NO just as we pray in front of statues, icons and churches as well as shrines because of what they represent. It helps to better the spiritual connection with GOD.
My reply:
To pray in front of a statue is idolatry. It provokes God of the Bible to anger. Roman Catholics have been told the truth, refuse to repent, are judged and sent to Hell. Cursed by the Pope, his cardinals, bishops and priests.
This is the truth.
This seems like a good place and time to ‘take an aspirin’ …. Geesh…aren’t you tired yet or do you (as we all do (smile) fill up before all these determined people follow Satan’s pawn..(between the work and the Intercession in prayer before and after we labor, I declare …if it wasn’t for The Holy Spirit I think many would just scream Lord ‘knock ’em all off again and start over’…haha…Well he did with Noah and did it again at the Cross…but many refuse to accept His wondrous love, mercy and grace so what??? so they can follow a Man in a golden, jeweled dress holding a dead Jesus on the cross…Ohh how foolish we all were before The Lord God opened our eyes…whether it be following the Pope or just thinking ‘the Catholic Religion was Holy’….God help us….God help us all!! I may not be here often Ivar, I’ve been and am very busy lately with what I do, but please know in your heart and the ‘faithful ones to our Lord Jesus Christ, all of you are in my prayers on a regular basis!! and I do covet the prayers of the Saints (the Saints Jesus made Saints (not the ‘copy-cat saint’s called by the Popes of many generations)…
Again thank you for your labor, patience, love of the brethren and dedication of love that only The Lord Jesus can give to your calling, on these who oppose themselves and lead others to destruction. Again I say ‘thank you Brother’
you said…..”Gloria, I know you and all who are part of this blog mean well”….
Sweetheart, you don’t know Gloria let alone ‘all’ who are part of this blog that are against the preaching and teaching of Catholicism…
If you knew Gloria you’d fall on your face before The Lord of Glory and repent, honey….this is no game..it’s your very life….if you knew her you’d see who is in her ‘talking and pleading with you to put away these foolish things and repent and believe The Gospel of Jesus Christ….Why as The Word says…Why do you insist on destroying yourself, eating things that will utterly kill you. Turn Turn from those lies, and seek The Lord while you may in the day, for the Night will soon come, so very soon, and you will be found wanting…all too soon, many will die and awake to find their shame…please don’t continue to follow this path so you too may awake to the glorious joy in Christ Jesus who has pleaded with you many times in and through these people you claim to know. If you ‘knew Jesus you’d know these’…but you only know the false Jesus…
How so very sad dear one how so very sad…I truly weep for your very spirit soul and body! You will eagerly go along with the ”Unity of the Believers in the days to come…if you continue to oppose yourself and these who continually plead and warn you…
You said :
“You only have to look at pictures, photos,
and even visit a catholic church to realize
that the Jesus of Rome is worshipped as
an idol. The fact that the pope holds a
statute, commands people to kiss bones
and dead flesh, and pray to a mary in the
form of a statue is proof enough.”
I’m catholic and this is laughable and pathetic to say the least. Gloria, I know you and all who are part of this blog mean well but it doesn’t change the fact that you are spreading lies about Catholics with nor remorse and no care for evidence at all.
I can tell you now that anyone who practices worship of anything or anyone other than Jesus is scolded in the Church for in the bible and the Catechism of the Catholic Church it forbids idolatry of all sorts.
I don’t think I need to put the ten commandments down because we both know them. So I will just reference the Catechism of the Catholic Church for you :
CCC 2110 The first commandment forbids honoring gods other than the one Lord who has revealed himself to his people. It proscribes superstition and irreligion. Superstition in some sense represents a perverse excess of religion; irreligion is the vice contrary by defect to the virtue of religion.
2112 The first commandment condemns polytheism. It requires man neither to believe in, nor to venerate, other divinities than the one true God. Scripture constantly recalls this rejection of “idols, [of] silver and gold, the work of men’s hands. They have mouths, but do not speak; eyes, but do not see.” These empty idols make their worshippers empty: “Those who make them are like them; so are all who trust in them.”42 God, however,is the “living God”43 who gives life and intervenes in 2112 The first commandment condemns polytheism. It requires man neither to believe in, nor to venerate, other divinities than the one true God. Scripture constantly recalls this rejection of “idols, [of] silver and gold, the work of men’s hands. They have mouths, but do not speak; eyes, but do not see.” These empty idols make their worshippers empty: “Those who make them are like them; so are all who trust in them.”42 God, however,is the “living God”43 who gives life and intervenes in 2112 The first commandment condemns polytheism. It requires man neither to believe in, nor to venerate, other divinities than the one true God. Scripture constantly recalls this rejection of “idols, [of] silver and gold, the work of men’s hands. They have mouths, but do not speak; eyes, but do not see.” These empty idols make their worshippers empty: “Those who make them are like them; so are all who trust in them.”42 God,
Catholicism teaches works for salvation, which pridefully leads to hell (Romans 4:5).
No Catholicism doesn’t teach works get you saved. What is taught is that works alone will get you nowhere just as faith alone is worthless.
Faith is the beginning of justification as it is the first step to salvation. Your faith gets justified by your works which are the true fruit of good faith.
James 2:24 – the phrase “faith alone” (the Greek “pisteos monon”) only occurs once in the Bible. “Man is justified by works and NOT faith alone.” Unlike what many Protestant churches teach, no where in Scripture does it say that man is justified or saved by “faith alone.” To the contrary, man is not justified by faith alone. In Catholic theology, a person is justified by faith and works acting together, which comes solely from God’s divine grace. Faith alone never obtains the grace of justification. Also, the word “justified” (dikaiow) is the same word Paul uses for justification in Rom. 4:3 in regard to Abraham (so Protestants cannot argue James is not referring to “justification” in James 2:24 unless they argue Paul wasn’t in Rom. 4:3 either).
“What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? CAN FAITH SAVE HIM? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? Thus also FAITH BY ITSELF, IF IT DOES NOT HAVE WORKS, IS DEAD.”
(James 2:14-17)
That’s your problem Wandilee, you would rather follow the catholic lies, then the God of the Bible. You would rather follow the farce that catechism of the catholic church, then the Word of God. That will be your downfall.
We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Gal. 2:15-16 (that’s Galatians, just in case because I see you DON’T know the Bible)
You said :
“God say: DO NOT MAKE. He is
serious. I do not care what the
Pope have told you. Even a 10
year old child understand why
God have told us to NOT make.
He can just look at Hindus,
Catholics, Buddhists, etc, and the
child will understand. God SHALL
be worshiped in spirit and in truth
by all who love Him.”
My reply :
Then how do you explain God commanding the Jews to MAKE to statues of Golden Angels on top of the ark of the covenant? Is this not Idolatry by your logic? By your logic is GOD commanding them to sin? Is God contradicting himself?
We both know God does not contradict himself. Therefore the problem is not with God, but rather it is YOU and your incorrect understanding of the commandments that is the problem.
You said :
“This is like a fairy tale. The Pope
has made up his own stories, and
Roman Catholic parents force
their children to do what is wrong.
What is “the work of the Holy spirit
in a skull?
What is “the work of the Holy Spirit
in a jaw bone?
What is holy in dressing up
skeleton and corpses, and display
them inside the Church, do
Catholics can bow before such
items?
To bow, pray in front of and kiss
such items is so morbid and
grotesque, that only cursed or
insane can participate in such,
and brand it as “holy”. ”
The Holy Spirit works through anything and everything! From the bones of Elisha to the bones of Saints in the Catholic Church. People are miraculously healed by these relics in some occasions. These relics help bring us closer to God through realising that God works through us even after we have died. This shows that God does not forsake us and thus enables us to trust him and have a better relationship!
You said :
“Why not stop bowing down to
created things, and not kiss them?
To pray in front of a statue is
idolatry. It provokes God of the
Bible to anger. Roman Catholics
have been told the truth, refuse to
repent, are judged and sent to
Hell. Cursed by the Pope, his
cardinals, bishops and priests.
This is the truth.”
In other words… You have no rebuttal
To pray in front of a statues is not wrong at all! Its not idolatry nor any other sin. Or else we should not pray in front of walls, or doors or even the air!!! For by your logic anything which is created should not be prayed before. Well we are in a created realm so by your reasoning, we should not pray at all because everything in front of us is created!
Lol Ivar let it go… You are wrong on this one. You know it and I know it. And THAT is the truth. God presided with his Church forever as it is the pillar and foundation of truth! AMEN and glory be to GOD
Dear wandile93
Shalom.
You wrote:
Lol Ivar let it go… You are wrong on this one. You know it and I know it. And THAT is the truth. God presided with his Church forever as it is the pillar and foundation of truth! AMEN and glory be to GOD
My comment:
It is true that the gates of Hell shall never prevail against the true Church of Jesus the Messiah. There will always be people who refuse to bow before, and pray in front of, skulls, bones, corpses, and other rotten stuff. People who refuse to accept the sins of the Pope will always represent the true saints.
Dear wandile93
Shalom.
You are concerned about Jews making statues of Angles, and placing them inside the Temple. In fact you are accusing God of lying, and for contradicting Him self, in regards to the first and second commandments.
1. These angles were a part of the Temple decoration.
2. These angles were not taken up from the grave, as a part of grave looting.
3. No one bowed down before the statues of the angles, and did not pray to them or in front of them
Your logic is that:
Since the Jews were instructed to make statues of Angles as a part of decoration, why can not Catholics decorate their religious institutions with skulls, corpses and bones?
You defend morbid wickedness. To take the dead out of the graves and put them up for display in “Churches” is grave looting.
This is Satanic, and makes a mockery out of the true faith. This kind of lawlessness is regrettable and damnable. All who participate in this will face judgment.
Shalom
Wonderful post this show and teach us about the error of Papal Church
Bob wrote,
“I guess my point is, everybody who thinks they’ve been “saved”
or “born again”, using the name of Jesus, may be in trouble.”
This was an old post but I’d like to ask a question. Why would they be in trouble?
I got my answer from going back over the posts. The Sacred Name people can’t even agree on the name in Hebrew. Yeshua, Yahshuah, Yehoshua, and they think we have a problem
If I carve an idol out of wood, of a man on a cross, and then call tht man Yeshua, or Yehoshuah, and pray to him, can he save me?
Of course not.
While the bible emphasizes the “name” it is really pointing to the person behind the name. If you have the name 100% correct, but are praying to a lump of wood that you have given that name, it can’t save you. What’s more the real Jesus/Yeshua will actually be very angry with you because you are an idolator!
I am very afraid that many “Christians” have actually started with the true Jesus, and then have added things to Him to the point that they are actually idolators. For instance the Metropolitan Community Churches believe in a “Jesus”, but then tell us that He approves of homosexuality/sodomy! This is another Jesus who actually can’t save anyone!
If you start with the true Jesus and start adding things to His character, from your imagination, at some point you will have crossed the line from true faith to an idolator.
I would say that point is reached the first time you attribute to Him characteristics that are not biblical. I hope I am wrong! I hope He is more forgiving than that, but I would not bet my life on it!
People who say that their Jesus wouldn’t make or drink wine, contrary to the Scriptures, are in this category. I would not want to be in their shoes!
Thank you for seperat this two. Yahshua (Jesus) of Nazareth is the Messia of hole Israel. The jews is not the hole Israel, only one out of twelve traibs. Israels (Jacob) sons was splitt in to two kingdoms becauce of king Salomons sin against God Yahwe. First of all Yashua came to rescue Efraim, the norhtern kingdom who was cast out of the land and the covenent. Hoseas 1.(read the hole book) As I can see it, Esaias 49 v1 – 6 is Messias mandat. After Salomon all the prophet talks about the house of Israel and the house of Judah. Yashua talks about them and his diciples talk about the same. Look for it and you can see the hole purpose that Yahwe has/had for fulfil his promesis to Abraham, Isak, Jacob and Efraim. This is the biggest Love story in history, its about a marriage relation between Gud and His elected holy people. If we are not of Efraim, the house of Israel or the jews, we can be like the egyption who followed Israel out of Egypt. we can say like Ruth “your Gud is my God, your people are my people and where you die I will die”. Ezekiel 37 talks of a restoration that will one day be done by God him self. Yahua was and is the offer so God Yahwe could remerried his wife. The “Good News” is not about a pagan church who has replaced Israel, but a restoration of the fallen “shukkah” of David. We are all invited to join in to this remarriage feast when He comes back. But we must keep Gods comendment and belive Yashua (Jesus) of Nazareth Rev. 14 v12.
Hosea 4: 6 (KJV) My people perish from a lack of knowledge
John 3:20-21
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to
the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be
made manifest, that they are wrought in God. The time is too short, as Francis keeps pushing catholics towards the marian idolatrous worship preparing way for the end time deception ,the coming of Daniel 9:26 “the prince
who is to come.” 2 thess 2:9-10 who,s workings and power
will show actual manifestation of Satan’s supernatural power. Let’s keep praying and evangelising catholics. –Ivar make Yeshua protect and keep inspiring you.
But what about salvation by works, which the Catholics teach?
AMEN var, commenting on the original article, ‘Why Jesus of Nazareth is not the jesus of Rome! Excellent!
Dear Nannette
Shalom.
Thanks for blessing me. This kind of articles do surly not make me popular among people who want “unity in the Church, across all denominations”.
But as long as heaven approves of my articles, I could care less. A “different Jesus” can not take you to the Kingdom of Heaven. He will lead you down the broad highway to hell.
Matthew 7:21 gives us a stern warning.
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
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Thank you for speaking the truth! God bless you through His Son Jesus Christ.
http://holdingforthhisword.wordpress.com/2013/07/05/what-in-the-world/
Catholics, and many other Christian denominations, fail to realize that Jesus, aka Yeshua, is Jewish. The Church, “eclessia,” (probably spelled wrong,) just means, called out. The early Church was all Jewish. The apostles were jewish, the prophets were jewish. The first gentile member of the church was Cornelius.
Thankfully, today the veil is being lifted from jewish eyes, and many are now beginning to recognize Jesus, as the Messiah. Simultaneously, many Christians are rediscovering their lost Jewish heritage, and are returning to the jewish roots of their faith. They are keeping the Commandments, and are celebrating the Feasts of the Lord. They are coming together, Jew and Gentile, worshiping as “one new man.” One in Messiah, just as the scriptures said it would happen.
This union is a beautiful thing, it is GOD gathering together his end- times Church, separating the wheat from the tares. Fulfilling GOD’s promise to Abraham, that he would be the father of many nations.
I feel sorry for Catholics, their faith is rooted in paganism. They refuse to celebrate GOD’s Feast Days. These feasts are holy convocations, times that GOD has set aside to meet with His people. Instead of celebrating the Lords Passover, they choose to celebrate Easter. Most know that Easter has Pagan roots, but they prefer the traditions of men and demons.
“Do they not know that they cannot partake of the table of GOD, and of the table of demons?” “They loved not the truth, but took pleasure in unrighteousness.” Pray for their eyes to be opened.
Thanks ivar for those Biblical sounded position. may the God of the Bible blessed you more. stand in truth is a worship to YASHUA.
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Very good Ivar! Amen, Thank you.
Great post as always. Love your new website. I am a devoted follower of Jesus (and your blog). God bless.
Only one Jesus died on the Cross for the redemption of Mankind not any “copy-cat” Jesus. And we follow the One Who died for our sins.
Dear Oldman
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
There are many copies of “Jesus”. Plenty of them is also supposed to have died on a cross, for our sins. Like the ‘Jesus” of the Jehova Witness. He is not the creator, but a copy-cat created being.
Even the “Jesus” of the New Age Movement died on the cross. And people who believe in Him can get saved, we are told. Saved, just like all who believe in Krishna.
The “Jesus” of Rome is not born by a human being. But by a goddess, the “Queen of Heaven”. This is a copy-cat, like all the copies Satan has invented to make people go astray, and make them sons of Hell.
Repent, or perish.
Jesus of the Bible is different from the rest. He was born a Jews, lived like a Jew, and came according to the scriptures. All god-haters deny this. They live according to the rule of men, and have created a mockery of the true faith in the Messiah, and replaced it with different kinds of religions.
For this is impossible to satan and his minion (prophets) to die on the Cross for mankind’s sins
Love only come from Lord.
Satan invented copy-cats cannot die for man’s sin. No, Never.
And we follow the One Who died for our sins.
“….The Jews denied Me and then betrayed Me. The Romans crucified Me and it was in Rome that My beloved apostle Peter was instructed to form My Church on Earth, for I wished that My Church be formed amongst those who persecuted Me….” -Your Jesus
Partly message of MDM titled It will be within the Roman Empire that the great abomination will rise up against Me Dated June 15, 2013.
Dear Oldman.
You seem to surface from time to time, with all your MDM (Maria divine mercy) non sense. Please pack your bag and leave.
Thanks Ivar for our response.
God’s servants are not accepted by the world. This world will reject MDM as a Prophet. This is the evidence.
Oldman.
Now you have made your point. Please leave, and do not come back.
Is it hard to find out the RealChurch? It is the One will face the greatest opposition and not welcomed by this world.
“It will be the Roman Catholics and the Jews who will face the greatest opposition in the times ahead. They will suffer discrimination, opposition and hatred as the apostasy strangles humanity. These “two witnesses” will continue to proclaim the Truth. ”
In the endtimes there is supposed to be a movement where the Jews start turning to Christ. So one olive tree could be the Messianic Jews, the other olive tree would have to be some gentile believers. Perhaps there is a Christian awakening in Israel. Those who come against them are from many nations and tongues. Roman Catholics are sort of spread out over many nations and tongues, as well as Judaism Jews. You would be hard pressed to fit all the Roman Catholics and Judaism Jews in Israel. Perhaps they will try to snuff out the flame of a Christian awakening in Isreal.
Oldman,This woman you follow is false,she is not a prophet of god,The church you go to is of little importance your personal relationship and interaction with JESUS/GOD is.
Dear ROMMGIRL
Shalom, and love in Jesus.
Thanks for rebuking Oldman. He has been permitted to comment on this blog for the past 3-4 years. But not replying to questions, only spreading the MDM falsehood. I warned him, and spammed him. Please do not entertain him, till we see some kind of repentance and willingness to debate.
Thank you ,my time to respond is very limited,my son gets most of my attention,I do believe god speak’s to us all,when his need be.