Daily bread from the life of Y´shua

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Matthew 16:18

And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

The Messiah promised to build His Church using a Jewish fisherman named Peter. He did so. All the first believers in Jesus the Messiah were Jews. First 300 years later, paganism came into the true Messianic faith. It came through Rome, that quickly enforced Sunday as the Sabbath, deleted the 2nd commandment, and allowed production, adoration and veneration of idols. Jesus promised us that there will always be true Messianic followers on Earth.

20 thoughts on “Daily bread from the life of Y´shua

  1. I am only a little assured that you love Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior but certain you have serious flaws in your theology and knowledge of the Word of God. This is one more stupid comment on how the wrong interpretation of what exactly Jesus actually said and meant. Peter is the last place that Christ would build His Church. Remember, that Christ is the vine and we are the branches, and neither Peter nor anyone else, can built the body of Christ without the help of the Holy Spirit. What Jesus said exactly was “you are Petros (little stone) and upon this petra (foundation rock)I will build my Church.” Matthew 16:18.

    Jesus clearly taught that no one can come to Jesus Christ and believe in Him unless the Father draws that person. “No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him; and I will raise him up at the last day.” G-d the Father sent Jesus and not Peter to build the Church. It is Jesus who is our High Priest, Prophet, and King and NOT PETER.

    ivarfjeld you are suspect in your teaching and should stick to reporting the news and forsake teaching about what Jesus taught until you learn the Scriptures. Let me say it for the record that Peter is just a little stone and not the foundation rock our faith is built upon, again, as it is written, “having been built up on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the cornerstone, in whom all the building being fitted together grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together into a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.” Ephesians 2:20-22.

    You best forsake your terrible statement that Christ would build His Church on a Jewish fisherman named “little stone”. Peter is no different than anybody else and unless the Father reveals that Jesus Christ is the Son of God then it is impossible to believe in G-d. As it is written, without faith it is impossible to please G-d and this faith is a gift not something anyone can earn.

    AMEN

    1. Dear Gordon.

      Shalom.

      I know you have not been able to read through all the Bible studies on this site, since you have only recently started to comment.

      You wrote:

      I am only a little assured that you love Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior but certain you have serious flaws in your theology and knowledge of the Word of God.

      My comment:

      The issue was if Peter or Jesus is the rock. I have never said that Peter is the Rock of our salvation. Peter is at best a small rock, or chepas (small stone), and Jesus is the Rock.

      But strangely enough, Jesus could use fishermen to build Churches. So if Jesus can use fishermen like Peter, I am sure He can use people like me and you also.

      1. Gordon is right Ivar. Read the whole passage not just the line. Leading up to that statement the object in question was Jesus asking the disciples who people said he Jesus was. The disciples replied some say a prophet. When he asked his disciples who do you say I am and Simon replied the Son of the living God. That’s what prompted the quote you took Matt 16:18.
        That concept is repeated and very prominent throught the bible that a Christian aknowledge that Jesus is the son of god. Isn’t that the basis of Christianity? It goes on to say that what the church is built on is a truth that shall never pass away…Obviously meaning that Jesus is the son of God.

      2. Dear Ed.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        Obviously meaning that Jesus is the son of God.

        My reply:

        Is there any disagreement on this?

        Do the three of us disagree that Jesus is the Rock of our salvation?

      3. You are trying to cover the an outrageous statement, you said:

        “The Messiah promised to build His Church on a Jewish fisherman named Peter. He did so.”

        Jesus never promised to builod His c
        hurch on Peter, period. Get over it!

        I rebuke you in the Name of Jesus. Admit when you’re wrong, confess you sins, and learn from you mistakes. I will agree we are both sinners and that Jesus is the only way we can be saved. You still need to study to show yourself approved in my humble opinion becaause of the very points I’ve made here and elsewhere. Stay in the word and pray for the ability to accept correction and gain wisdom.

        AMEN

      4. Dear Gordon.

        Shalom.

        I feel we all agree that Jesus is the builder of His Church, and that Jesus is the Rock of our salvation.

        That Jesus uses small rocks like me and you to build His church, is also a fact. Like this blog.

        It would have been no articles on this blog, is Jesus was going to write all the articles alone.

      5. Gordon,

        I think you’re taking this a little too far by rebuking Ivar.

        I got this information from another website:

        Jesus appears to be using a play on words. “You are Peter (petros) and on this rock (petra) I will build my church.” Since Peter’s name means rock, and Jesus is going to build His church on a rock – it appears that Christ is linking the two together. God used Peter greatly in the foundation of the church. It was Peter who first proclaimed the Gospel on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:14-47). Peter was also the first to take the Gospel to the Gentiles (Acts 10:1-48). In a sense, Peter was the rock “foundation” of the church *end*

        We can all have disagreements, and I’ve had some with Ivar, but I’ve never rebuked him because we have different views. But we share the most important fact: Is that Jesus Christ is the only one who can save, and that he is coming soon.

  2. Your article states that Jesus built his church on the Jewish fisherman Peter (little stone). Gordon and I disagree and say that He built his church on himself. It’s a huge difference. If he built his church on Peter and gave this authority to men then there is creedence to apostolic succession. I do not think that’s what he was saying at all. Here’s an article I found that also attempts to explain it.

    http://www.thercg.org/questions/p184.a.html

    1. Ed read what I said and not what I quoted from others. We both are in agreement. Now for Gloria, you are wrong. Peter was rebuked by Paul for his double minded thinking. The whole point of Jesus stating the facts is to show that His Church was built on G-d not mere man. Of course G-d has chosen us to spread the Gospel. The most important point is that Peter was called “blessed” not because of what Peter did but what G-d did! It was His Father that revealed the truth to Peter that Jesus was the Christ. Peter was incapable of doing this on his own and neither are we. So this point is critical in the discussion of the truth and most appropriate of a rebuke when it is clearly ignored by man’s idea rather than G-d’s revelation.

      AMEN.

      1. Gordon,

        The discussion was about Matthew 16:18. We can all agree that God revealed the truth to Peter that Jesus was Christ, son of the Living God. That part is not in disagreement.

        Gordon you are taking a stance that you are completely 100% correct. But what if Ivar is the one that is 100% correct?

        And adding to my comment above: God chose Noah, Abraham, Moses and others in times past, he chose Peter for the task of opening the doors of the kingdom of God to the world.

        Notice I said: **Opening the doors**

        FYI: Peter was rebuked later in regards to what he said in Matthew 16 verse 22.

      2. Dear Gloria.

        Shalom.

        Your comment:

        Gordon you are taking a stance that you are completely 100% correct. But what if Ivar is the one that is 100% correct?

        My reply:

        This is not a competition in correctness. All the three of us will surely make mistakes. Sometimes we all can teach something that is wrong, and we are students till the day we face our Master. There are also differences between us, in regards to not central doctrines. Like: Praying in tongues, and the timing of the rapture.

        Inside a Church, you will find very few people who agree 100 per cent in everything.

      3. I apologize if my words came across as “a competition.” That is not what I intended. We can still learn from each other. Yes, the rapture is something we disagree on, but speaking in tongues is something we agree on.

        God Bless.

      4. Dear Gloria.

        Shalom,

        We agree on the doctrine of speaking in tongues. I do not know what Gordon feels about many issues, since he also was included in my last message.

        Blessings from a brother in Jesus the Messiah.

    2. Opps forgive me I think I misunderstood you. Anyway we are in agreement. Besides, everyone that is saved is called by Jesus, as He calls us, we don’t call Him. Thanks for your extra witness.

      The other reason I jumped to correct this false idea that Jesus built His Church on Peter is because that is the false teaching of the Roman Catholic Church we declare the same thing! Whenever any man is placed in the middle between any individual and Jesus Christ he is considered “instead of Christ” or what is called the “antiChrist” meaning you must go through a man instead of Jesus to reach heaven. This is nothing more than the practice of the Nicolaitans which is hated by Jesus Christ.

      AMEN

      1. Dear Gordon.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        The other reason I jumped to correct this false idea that Jesus built His Church on Peter is because that is the false teaching of the Roman Catholic Church we declare the same thing!

        My reply:

        A short trip around this site, will tell you that this in not a Roman Catholic website. Rome do teach that The Church is ONLY built on Peter, and that Peter had a supreme role to play as the head Bishop, the Bishop of Rome.

        Neither do I believe this, nor do Gloria.

        The Church is built on small stone like all of us (including Peter). Peter was the man that got the message from Jesus. He is later told to feed the sheep of Jesus, and look after the flock. Not alone, but surely chosen.

        Can we agree on this?

    3. Dear Ed and Gordon.

      Shalom.

      Lets read the Amplified Bible version of this important teaching of Jesus.

      Matthew 16:18
      And I tell you, you are Peter [Greek, Petros–a large piece of rock], and on this rock [Greek, petra–a huge rock like Gibraltar] I will build My church, and the gates of Hades (the powers of the infernal region) shall not overpower it [or be strong to its detriment or hold out against it].

      This conversation clearly states that Jesus will use Peter. Can we agree on this?

      Use Peter for what?

      As a co-worker to build the Church. Not the “Catholic Peter”, but Peter the Jewish Apostles.

      1 Corinthians 3:8-10 (New International Version)

      The one who plants and the one who waters have one purpose, and they will each be rewarded according to their own labor. For we are co-workers in God’s service; you are God’s field, God’s building.

      By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as a wise builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should build with care.

      (end of scripture)

      I guess Jesus is building His blog on small stones like us. He being the master Builder, giving me inspiration and motivation to keep on leading people into His Kingdom.

      Paul clearly states that “I” lay the foundation, as a wise builder. We (also Peter) are God’s building.

      1. Thanks, I think the true message is getting through
        through. I wasn’t trying to be a nit picker, but wanted to be sure that Jesus doesn’t build His chruch on man. He may allow us to help Him, but He is the builder and foundation on which the Church stands not man.

        AMEN

      2. Dear Gordon and Gloria.

        Shalom.

        Gordon wrote:

        I wasn’t trying to a nit picker….

        My reply:

        What is a nit picker?

        I have changed the comment on today’s “Daily Bread of Y’shua”.

        Now it is written: “The Messiah promised to build His Church using a Jewish fisherman named Peter. He did so”.

        The word “on” has been replaced with “using”. Let us agree that the comment has been changed to make it clear who is the Master Builder.

  3. I don’t think so. Peter didn’t stand out from the other disciples except Jesus seemed to favor him a bit having chosen him to be the first to confess that he was the son of God. That was perhaps a great honor for Peter to lay the first foundation of the Christian faith. To say “thou are the son of God” because “The lips save a man from death”. The rest of what your saying is not related, because he’s not much different than the rest of the disciples as a teacher, also not ALL of the first discples were Jews by natural birth, Paul was a Roman soldier prior to being converted. Peter was not even the greatest man to ever live. John the Baptist was according to Jesus. And John the Baptist said Jesus was greater than himself. Peter died and is dead. Jesus died and was raised. So who is the Master Builder? Who did the Gates of Hell (death) not overcome?

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