Daily bread from the life of Y´shua

Luke 24:12-14

Peter, however, got up and ran to the tomb. Bending over, he saw the strips of linen lying by themselves, and he went away, wondering to himself what had happened.

The Jewish fisherman Peter was called by Jesus to become his student. Peter was like all of us. He struggled with his faith, not able to listen to Jesus and believe the messages from His Master. When Peter came to the grave and found it empty, He could simply not understand. Still, He had not got the Power of the Holy Spirit. That a man can rise from the dead, has to be revealed to us from above. We have to be born again to know this for sure.

32 thoughts on “Daily bread from the life of Y´shua

  1. Interesting line at the end of that chapter. Luke 24:49 And behold, I will send the promise of my father upon you; but tarie yee in the city of Jerusalem, (a)until ye are indued with power from an high.

    (a)-which was until whitsuntide when the holy ghost was sent from heaven

    So that seems to be a passage that supports the idea the promise of his father was entering into an eternal kingdom, if being filled with the holy spirit was synonymous with salvation, or to say your salvation was sealed, assured at that point.

    But I am not denying that the Jews have a certain ties to Israel, simply saying that the promise of his father was something other than that.

    1. Dear Ed.

      Shalom.

      The New Testament does not explicit demand a baptism of the Holy Spirit, that is another event than the day you got born again from above. The Bible says that a man like John the Baptist was filled with the Holy Spirit from childhood. Strangely enough, He had at that time never met Jesus in the flesh.

      This view makes me more of a Baptist, and certainly not a dogmatic Pentecostal. I still feel that there is a possibility of a separate baptism in the Holy Spirit, which often occur the day a person comes to know his gift of the Holy Spirit. That is another great day for all who believe. This gift can, among others, be the gift of praying in tongues.

      One of the greatest tragedy within claimed to be Christianity, is that millions of Church going Christians have no clue about what I just told you about. No focus on gifts, no knowledge and no interest either.

  2. John the Baptist was a special birth. His mother Elizabeth and Jesus’ mother Mary met when they were both pregnant. John the baptist kicked when he heard the name Jesus. When he was born he came out of his mothers womb praising God. There was a witness, a priest or something who said “what manner of baby is this”? So, John the Baptist seems to have been one of a kind.

    I’m not familiar with Pentecostals, had to look up whitsuntide, never heard that word before in my life.

    1. Dear Ed.

      Shalom.

      Have you never heard about the word Pentecostals? And you have been a faithful reader of this blog for more than a year…..

      Anyhow: Pentecostals both practice believer’s baptism, and do believe in a separate baptism in the Holy Spirit. The majority of Pentecostal Churches will put the hands on all who desire to have the gift of praying in tongues. Speaking in tongues are inside this denomination seen as a sign that a person is baptized in the Holy Spirit.

      The sensitive and unsolved issue among the Pentecostals, is the fact that there are also false tongues inside Churches. I guess all denominations have unsolvable issues in regards to the up coming separation of the sheep and the goats.

      Sister Gloria: Please arrest me if I am wrong.

      1. Ivar,

        Your comment brought a smile to my face. I will not arrest you 🙂

        I am one who was baptised around the age of 12 or 13, where I knew that I was accepting Jesus Christ as my Savior, and knew what that meant.

        I am also one who has felt the presence of Christ (Glory to Him), but I have never spoken in tongues. I do believe in speaking in tongues by the Holy Spirit (my mom and pastor are two believers in Christ who have the gift), but you are correct in saying that there are false tongues in the church.

        Ed,

        There of course are several verses in the bible about speaking in tongues by the Holy Spirit.

        Acts 2:1-4 When the day of Pentecost arrived, they were all together in one place. And suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.

        1 Corinthians 12:27-31 Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it. And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues. Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? Do all possess gifts of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? But earnestly desire the higher gifts.

        As my Pastor put it: And these are his exact words: “All the manifestations of God through the gifts of the Spirit are useful and necessary while the church is here on earth.”

        God Bless

  3. That sounds backwards from what happened in the temple. In the temple when given the gift of the holy spirit they could all understand each other even though they were from many nations and spoke different languages. It sounds like pentecostals see speaking in strange tongues so that nobody can understand them is a gift?

    1. Ed,

      I am Pentecostal. Like I stated above, there are a few people at my church, and some that do not attend my church, but others that speak in tongues. My Pastor, and my mom (both Pentecostals) are two of them. It is a gift from the Holy Spirit.

      The Bible says in Mark 16:15-18: And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.”

      1 Corinthians 14 says: Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy. For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit.

      When you speak in tongues you speak to Christ, but I have seen a few who have translated what they were speaking. Understand, that nothing can be done without the Holy Spirit.

    2. Dear Ed.

      Shalom.

      There seems to be two different types on tongues Paul is speaking about. One took place as a miracle on the Day of Pentecost, when people heard the gospel in their language. The other type of tongues, is a gift that should not be used in the Church without someone having the gift of interpretation.

      If you Ed, did not understood the tongue that came in the Church, there should be someone else who can decode the message. And tell you what this message is all about.

      If there was no need for decoding, and all present understood, Paul would not have demanded the gift of interpretation.

      There is no need to make fun of this Ed. Since you did not even know about the existence of Pentecostals, I guess you have never seen these two gifts in action inside a Church. I have experienced both correct use of these gifts, and fakes trying to pretend.

      To be able to “see” the difference, you need to both read and obey the scriptures. The gift of discernment must also be put into action in all Churches, to avoid them falling into deception.

  4. What kind of tongues? Like Robert Deniro in cape fear speaking in tongues? Or something that others can understand? Because in the temple on the day that Pentecost remembers it describes the speaking in tongues as crossing language barriers. Useful, profitable and not something that could be easily faked.

    1. Ed,

      Your Comment: Like Robert Deniro in cape fear speaking in tongues?

      My Comment: Do you feel right in mocking me when I speak about the Word of God? When I tell you speaking in tongues is a Gift of God, and show you biblical verses, you feel good making fun of God’s Word?

      Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.

      If you want to have a serious conversation, then we can do that. If you want to make fun of God’s Word, then your digging your own hole, and I won’t be part of it.

  5. He also says be gone from me you workers of iniquity to people claiming and believing in all those things you mentioned doing. Perhaps they misunderstood something.

    In the temple the miracle was great, undeniable, irrefutable, unmockable, 3000 people converted to christianity that day.

    The occult teaches speaking in tongues, I imagine it would sound like Deniro’s. But I dont know. What is the occult? What’s wrong with them anyway?

    1. Ed,

      It is you who is misunderstanding the Word of God, and apparently you continue to be child like in your comments…no not child like. Because even my children, wouldn’t make fun of something they do not know, or have not experienced. So ignorant is more like it.

      Here are some more bible verses, that I think you should read over and over again.

      To communicate the Gospel message: 1 Corinthians 14:22-35
      22 Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is not for unbelievers but for believers. 23 So if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and inquirers or unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind? 24 But if an unbeliever or an inquirer comes in while everyone is prophesying, they are convicted of sin and are brought under judgment by all, 25 as the secrets of their hearts are laid bare. So they will fall down and worship God, exclaiming, “God is really among you!”

      2 Corinthians 12:12
      12 I persevered in demonstrating among you the marks of a true apostle, including signs, wonders and miracles

      Mark 16:15-17 He [Jesus] said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues.

      By your take on speaking tongues, I suppose you’ve never witnessed a miracle of God, or a believer in Christ drive a demon out of someone.

      If you reject God’s inspired word, how will you ever experience any gifts of the Holy Spirit.

  6. I Cor. 14, your not reading it correctly. The whole chapter is about how to deal with people who speak foreign languages. The reference to being out of their wits is if there are many people gathered together speaking different languages someone would walk in and think they were all crazy. It goes on to talk about solutions, It talks about having an interpreter.

    I Cor 14:27-28 If any man speak a strange tongue let it be by two or three at the most and that by course and let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter let him keep his silence in the church, which speaks languages, and let him speak to himself and to God.

    The goal was to be understood. I’m sure the language barrier was a big challenge for the Apostles.

    1. Dear Ed.

      Shalom.

      You wrote:

      and let him speak to himself and to God.

      My reply:

      Have you ever heard anyone speaking a foreign language to him self, and to God?

      The Language barrier was not a huge problems for the Apostles, after the day of Pentecost. Than the church had been enlarged by 3.000 people who could tell the gospel in multiple languages. Remember that Paul Him self could speak several languages, and did not have to tell anyone to “keep his foreign language” for him self.

      In conclusion:

      Paul explain to us about a Heavenly language, that needs decoding, something that can only by done after receiving a gift of interpretation by the Holy Spirit. Not a decoding done by human wisdom, or a language school teacher.

    2. Ed,

      I don’t think I’m reading it incorrectly at all.

      With unmistakable clarity Paul says, “Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not . . . ” (1 Corinthians 14:22).

      The whole chapter is not about how to deal with people who speak in foreign language.

      How can you even suggest that when 1 Corinthians 14 the very first two verses begin like this: 1 Follow the way of love and eagerly desire gifts of the Spirit, especially prophecy. 2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue[a] does not speak to people but to God.

      YOu got that Ed? For anyone who speaks in a tongue, does not speak to people BUT TO GOD.

      It does not say how to deal with foreign people.

      Verse 39 says: Therefore, my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues.

      Paul places the word “prophesy” in the same sentence as “do not forbid speaking in tongues.”

      I suggest you read the chapter again Ed.

  7. Enough of a problem they dedicated I Corinthians 14 to discussing foreign languages. That was quoted “If there is no interpreter let him keep silence and speak to himself and God” In other words Pray silently to God in his own language.

    Yep it says some could speak multiple languages but for those who couldnt to get an interpreter,

    Where does he explain about heavenly language that needs decoding?

    1. Dear Ed.

      Shalom.

      Lets take a deeper look at the issue of tongues, with your take that this was foreign languages, that the Apostle Paul needed to educate the church how to use.

      1 Corinthians 13:8
      Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.

      There are still several thousand different languages on Earth. Do you feel that all of these languages will disappear?

      1 Corinthians 14:6
      Now, brothers and sisters, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?

      Here your viewpoint would lead Paul to speak in a foreign language to this Church, even though he obviously knew their native language. Why would Paul do that?

      Why would Paul speak prophecy in a foreign language?

      Why on Earth would Paul give this Church “word of instructions” in a foreign language?

      1 Corinthians 14:22
      Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is not for unbelievers but for believers.

      How come foreign languages is only a sign for unbelievers?

      Would there not be “believers” that would be able to understand these languages, after the day of Pentecost?

      1 Corinthians 14:39
      Therefore, my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues.

      Was there anyone in the Middle East that did not allow anyone to speak in foreign languages?

      On the cross, Pilate had written “King of the Jews”, in three different languages.

      On the day of Pentecost thousand of Jews that came to Jerusalem, surely spoke multiple languages.

      The first Churches in the Middle East, was often mixed congregations of Jews speaking Latin, Greek, Hebrew, Egyptian or Syriaic.

      Which of these languages, was it Paul felt was considered foreign?

    2. Ed,

      You write: Where does he explain about heavenly language that needs decoding?

      My Comment: See 1 Corinthians 14 verse 1 and 2
      1 Follow the way of love and eagerly desire gifts of the Spirit, especially prophecy. 2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue[a] does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit.

      Reread verse 2: For anyone who speaks in a tongue, does not speak to people but to God.

      Now take a look at this: verse 26 26 What then shall we say, brothers and sisters? When you come together, each of you has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. Everything must be done so that the church may be built up.

      Paul mentions “tongue” in church. He does not mention tongue in as a different language.

      Acts 2:4 says 2:4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit, and they began to speak in other languages as the Spirit enabled them

      Another verse about speaking in tongues.

      Here is more important verses:

      1 Corinthians 12:

      12:4 Now there are different gifts, but the same Spirit. 12:5 And there are different ministries, but the same Lord. 12:6 And there are different results, but the same God who produces all of them in everyone. 12:7 To each person the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the benefit of all. 12:8 For one person is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, and another the message of knowledge according to the same Spirit, 12:9 to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, 12:10 to another performance of miracles, to another prophecy, and to another discernment of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, and to another the interpretation of tongues. 12:11 It is one and the same Spirit, distributing as he decides to each person, who produces all these things.

      Do you see the ending? Paul says it is one and the same spirit, distributing as he decides to each person, who produces all these things (including speaking in tongues.)

      It doesn’t get anymore clearer than that.

  8. Understandeable. I Cor 14:22 Wherefore strange tongues are for a sign, not for them that believe but for them that believe not, (in reference to the curse put on mankind at the tower of Babel) but prophesying serves not them that believe not (those who dont understand) but them that believe (do understand).

    It goes on to say that those who are able to understand will be laid bare recognizing their sins, fall on their face and worship God. Being humbled and such. But if they cannot understand this desired effect wont happen.

    1. Ed,

      My point is this. Christ called me at a very young age to see things, many others couldn’t. I was very fortunate that my parents brought me up, teaching me about Jesus Christ, and the many things that can be done in his name.

      Nothing can be done without Jesus. And if anyone says that they can do without Christ, then that is Truly false. Because Glory to God in all things, must be given to him.

      God Bless.

  9. I Cor 14:1-5
    1) Follow after love and covet spiritual gifts, and rather that ye may prophesie.
    2) For he that speaks a strange tongue speaks not to men, but to God; for no man hears him. (God understands all languages no matter what you use, not going to teach him anything)
    3) But he that prophesies speaks to men to edifying, to exhortation, and to comfort.
    4) He that speaks strange languages edifies himself (because he is not understood): but he that prophesies edifies the church.
    5) I would that ye all spake strange languages, but rather that yee prophesied: for greater is he that prophesies, then he who speaks diverse tongues, except he expound it (translate it)so the church can recieve edification (enlightenment).

    6)And now brethren, if I came to you speaking diverse tongues what will it profit you?

    Definitley making the case whether its necessary to be understood but I would definitely say he is making the case for being understood. Not like some churches who have prefered scriptures were to not be understood. Like the Roman Catholic church did by using Latin and forbidding scriptures to be translated to common languages.

    1. Dear Ed.

      Shalom.

      No one will force you to understand this. Neither will any Pentecostal stop praying in tongues, after he has received this gift. People who either have not been occupied with gifts of the Holy spirit, or do not use their gift, sin.

      You wrote:

      For he that speaks a strange tongue speaks not to men, but to God; for no man hears him. (God understands all languages no matter what you use, not going to teach him anything)

      My reply:

      Your take is that anyone who speak a Foreign language, can not be understood by MEN, but only by God. What you are portraying, is an alien from space. You seems to like to disagree for the sake of disagreeing.

      We must understand from your take on “tongues”, that such a foreigner will be the only one speaking this language, since “no man hears him”. This makes him an alien on Earth, from a lost and distant Galaxy.

      Come on Ed. You are not so dull.

  10. No, that passage is that dull and basic in its meaning. Obviously if your multilingual and understand whatever particular language it is they are speaking it’s not a strange tongue to you. Read it carefully but im not going to argue anymore about it.

    1. Ed,

      Your Comment: No, that passage is that dull and basic in its meaning.

      My Comment: How can you say that about the Word of God? Not at one time, that I have read God’s Word a statement like “dull” has ever entered my mind. Ed, please think before you speak.

      1. Gloria,

        Dull and basic compared to what some think it means, speaking in tongues as in foreign languages instead of speaking in tongues like Deniro. If it was a plain and simple message would you cast it to the ground for being dull? Not me. Honestly read the whole chapter carefully. I find it to be a great message and one I cherish dearly because it is saying that we should be communicating with each other with the intent of understanding instead of simply to hear ourselves speak.

      2. Ed,

        At this point, I’m just going to say conversation over from my end. You refuse to see what the Word of Christ means, and you incoporate your own meaning. That is absolutely wrong.

        God Bless and have a Happy Thanksgiving.

      3. Dear Gloria.

        Shalom.

        Thanks again for being a minister on our blog. You are a blessing to all of us, also those who disagree with you. Keep the flames burning. May Jesus always bless you and keep you. Amen.

  11. Look here at all the different versions of I Cor 14:18

    New International Version (©1984)
    I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you.

    International Standard Version (©2008)
    I thank God that I speak in other languages more than all of you.

    King James version
    I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:

    1607 Geneva Bible
    I thank my God, I speak more languages than ye all.

    So probably what happened is the Hebrew word for tongues and languages are similar. But which did he mean? I suggest languages and the gift on tongues the gift of picking up other languages similar to an artist having a gift to draw.
    The word prophesy is a similar case since it instructs everyone to prophesy. Now basically prophesy is making known the truth. Spiritual gifts are truths you may recieve from prayer and study and by prophesy I submit that he means making these things known to others. Then he instructs that we compare this proposed truth to the rest of scriptures and see if it fits.

    1. Dear Ed and Gloria.

      Shalom.

      I feel the topic of tongues has been debated from every angle. We simply should not keep on repeating the same points. Lets move one.

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