Andrew Strom warns against Bill Johnson and Todd Bentley

Bill Johson is far more dangerous than Todd Bentley ever was. Because the deception is not as “obvious” as Todd Bentley, people are charmed into thinking he’s “fine”.

Three false teachers gathered. Todd Bentley, Bill Johnson and Rick Joyner.

This in yet another warning from Andrew Storm, who can be watch in a website named John the Baptist TV.  Strom has also published the book Kundalini warning, sharing his experiences from the Charismatic movement.

This is what Strom writes:

As you can see from all these reports, the ministry of Bill Johnson is highly suspect. Sadly, because the deception is not as “obvious” as Todd Bentley, people are
charmed into thinking he’s “fine”.

Charismatic leaders around the world flock to his meetings and openly endorse his teachings.
For this reason I believe he is far more dangerous than Todd Bentley ever was. The Bible says that in the last days will come false teachers and “lying signs and wonders” to deceive if possible the “very elect.”

And what do we see today?

New Age
practices and spirits are flooding the church. And it is men like Bill Johnson that have become the “acceptable face” of this invasion.

Please, friends, steer well clear.

The problem is that Bill Johnson endorses and promotes an “anointing” exactly identical to the one that Todd Bentley promotes.

 The “drunken glory”, fire-tunnel, laughing, jerking, gold-dust, “Angel-mania”-type anointing that has done such damage to the Charismatic movement around the world and in many cases reduced it to a shocking travesty of what it once was.

What would Derek Prince or Keith Green think of the things these men are into – spiritual drunkenness, “portals”, “visualization’, spirit-travel, fire-tunnels, angel-orbs and the like?

All his is found in the New Age movement, but not in
 the Bible.

Bill Johnson was one of the biggest supporters of the Lakeland revival led by Todd Bentley. And even after the fiasco that it became, he publicly endorsed Todd Bentley’s ministry again in 2011.

But Bill does it all with such “down-to-earth” charm and
wise-sounding words – “how could this be deception?”

That is what makes him so dangerous.

Source: John the Baptist TV.

My comment:

I can only say amen to this report.

We who believe in the working, baptism, gifts and fruits of the Holy Spirit needs to use discernment. We need to expose the counterfeit stuff.

  2 Thessalonians 2:9

The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.

If this gift of discernment is not present among the members in a Christian fellowship, it is a failure of the leaders. They are bad shepherds of the flock.

They are responsible for keeping the doors wide open for deceptions.

The three false teachers above also have in common that they preach Kingdom Now technology. If you listen carefully, you will come to know that  they accept the papacy as a seat of Christianity.

Rick Joyner is even a member of the Order of Malta, a committed member of a freemasonry organization controlled by the Pope. Here is a ink to an article that expose Joyner.

The Kingdom Now theology will accept and hail the false king that is about to enter the World stage.

Be aware of the unclean spirits that manifests as different kinds of animal noises, uncontrolled laughter or even some strange jump that make a man look like a large frog.

 Revelation 16:12-14

Then I saw three evil spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. They are spirits of demons performing miraculous signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty.

Stay away from them. If they come to put their hands on you, and offers to pray for you, tell them to back off.

Pray that you get a chance to confront this New Age evil, so it will be exposed in the circles who are willing to listen to you.

Written by Ivar

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62 thoughts on “Andrew Strom warns against Bill Johnson and Todd Bentley

  1. Shalom Ivar.
    The RCC teaches that the catholic church IS the kingdom of God on earth. It matches up very well with the earthly Kingdom Now (Dominionism) theology which teaches Christians to gain political power and win the world through this power so that Jesus will come back and the kingdom is set up. Crazy talk, earthly and false.

  2. The Word of God speaks about the ‘dress’ of these also…and that’ is a start…(smile) to be warned even before they open their mouth! ..but the today’s World will defend the ‘Modern Fad of Fashion’….as Jesus said …The World loves their own…being led by The Holy Spirit shows those who will follow and obey not to enter into the deception of these.

  3. Satan must be very proud of himself , haveing so much attention and focous of Christians on his deceptions,they fail to see he is keeping them from doing GODS work,no dought all part of his plan,we must not let ourselfs undrestimate his power, as he was created by GOD, and is the prince of this planet. Satan knows he cannot win ,as it is written sin/death will be destroyed,his goal is to take as maney souls as he can away from GOD .IT is not our job to point lost souls away from Satan ,it is our job to point lost souls in the direction of JESUS as only he can save them .

    1. Dear dean kevin heyes

      Shalom.

      You must be aware that Jesus the Messiah speaks about deception. So His followers must be aware of this kind of stuff.

      If you want to become popular among men, do not touch such issues. And they will love you. But if you want eternal blessings from Heaven, you better pay attention.

      1. Im sorry ivarfjeld I dont understand your sentance. If you want to become popular among men,do not touch such issues. And they will love you. can you elabourate please

      2. Dear dean kevin heyes

        Shalom.

        John 15:19
        If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.

      1. Todd.

        Shalom.

        Just a marginal correction, but surely of great significance. Sin and death have been defeated. But not yet totally destroyed. For this purpose, God of the Bible has prepared Hell. There is no place for neither sin nor death inside the Kingdom of Heaven.

      2. Amen….the power of the ‘Nature of Sin’ that no one could or did have the power to over come it and/or to stop it, only Jesus because he was not born of the ”seed” of ‘man’…yet he came thru the seed of woman by the spoken word of The Holy Ghost

      3. Hi Todd I supose in the grand scheme of things ,that would be a fair statement ,however at this presant moment ,the saints have yet to enter heaven,and sinners like myself still need to be judged . Sin along with Satan and his followers still need to be totally consumed by fire, and this process will put an end to death, GOD will then recreate the universe and put the earth and man back to the way they where in the begining,anyway thats only my humble opinion,what do you think

      4. Hi Dean
        You said”sinners like me still have to be judged. Is that because you practice sin. Iwould dare say to you brother that you are not a sinner. You used to be a sinner but then Jesus saved you. Now you are not. Let me explain by using scripture. 1 Jn.1:8 If we claim to be without sin we deceive ourselves and the truth(Jesus)
        is not in us.9.If we confess our sins he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him (Jesus) to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives. 3:6 No one one who lives in him keeps on sinning. no on who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.7. Dear children do not let anyone lead you astray. He who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous.8.He who does what is sinful is of the devil,because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the son of God appeared was to destoy the devil’s work. 9. No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in him: he cannot go on sinning, because he is born of God. 10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not achild of God nor is anyone who does not love his brother.
        The guestion is are you in Christ? Have you been born of God?
        If you are then you will not continue to sin. If you are practicing sin then you have not been born of God and are not in Christ. You are either practicing sin or you are not. In Christ you will not make it a point to sin you will make it point to be righteous. If you are in Christ you are not a sinner. Thats what you used to be before rebirth in Christ. Now you have God’s seed that remains in you,and that is his spirit. There is no need for a child of God to face judgement. If you have confessed your sin he(Jesus) is faithful to forgive us our sins and purify us from ALL unrighteousness. Don’t call yourself a sinner. Let me give a quick illustration. If a prostitute comes to faith in Jesus and is born again and given a new start and God’s seed is put in her and remains and she in her new life does not prostitute herself anymore because she wants to live a life of thanks for what Jesus did for her on the cross. Is she still a prostitue(sinner) or is she a child of God. We are not sinners therefore their is no judgement for us to face. If we must face judgement then Christ’s work was for nothing. Only sinners(children of the devil) face judgement and death.

  4. Forgive me ivar this seems to be a simple missunderstanding, I was not intending to have a stab at you, who brings to the attention of others Satans deceptions ,as this is truly GODS work. My post was for the rest of us who seem to relish in haveing this knowledge ,yet do not offer sollutions or ideas on how to win back these lost souls.

    1. Dear dean kevin heyes

      Shalom.

      1. We can not win back lost souls. It is the Holy Spirit who delivers and saves.

      2. We must be careful not to fall into deception our selves.

      3. When we encounter deception within the Church, it must be detected and confronted. So people do not fall into deception.

      4.People who have permitted deceivers to operate inside Church do have a serious problem. Jesus speaks about those who lead people into sin. It would be better for them to have a millstone around their neck, and been thrown into the deep blue sea, than to face a horrific eternal destiny in Hell.

      1. Yes ivar point taken, and I agree that only JESUS can save souls,but I still maintain its our duty as his followers to help . however I do not agree with an eternal hell ,I cannot see such a place being part of GODS restored universe.

      2. Dean,

        To clarify, the Bible describes hell as an eternal place.

        Matthew 25:46 25:46 “And these will depart into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

        2 Peter 2:4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment;

        There are many verses that describe hell.

    2. really? hmmm like the
      Pharacies did to Jesus. Jesus he just wasn’t dressed right not like a king and road in on a donkey. Wow the Pharocies were right on Jesus dress gave him away before he even opened his mouth.

      Wake up. The Lord uses anything he wants any way he wants. men look and judge the outer man The Lord sees the heart.

      Read the word lady. As the word says “the lord uses the odd the unsuspecting the rejected of the world to CONFOUND the wise”

      Just like he did with Jesus.

      That judgement will be judged back right back at you. Your clothes will be judged and you rejected. Repent because if you don’t its going to tear your heart to shreds when its done to you. And it will.

  5. Hellow Gloria it apears we have a differance in text ,I have everlasting punishment ,also in JUDE1:7 if you read the verse it speaks of Sodom and Gamora suffering the vengeance of an eternal fire,this is not the case ,however you can go vissit these cities and walk down there streets andl you will find there ash remaines completely consumed by fire,you can still find the brimstone {97% sulpher nugets} inside these ash structures witch resemble the ancient cities of that time.

    1. Dean,

      Where is it that you think unbelievers and sinners go who do not accept Jesus?

      The Bible is clear on such matters. How can you choose to believe only portions of the Bible? What Jesus stated was the whole truth.

      Matthew 10:28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

      Mark 9:43-48 And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire. And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life lame than with two feet to be thrown into hell. And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into hell, ‘where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.’

      These verses are very clear!

      1. I take it you mean after there judgement and JESUS condems them ,and the saints are shown there sins and understand why it is to be,They dont go anywhere, or you could say they go to the place before there birth witch was nowhere they cease to exist,it would be as if they never where .

      2. No I meant now. When you sin and die without accepting Jesus, the Bible is clear on where you will go.

        The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16)

        19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.

        22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
        25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’

        27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’

        29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’

        30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’

        31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”

      3. Putyhwh 1ST explained this on the 24 september musslims kissing the black stone, as we are all sinners you included Gloria , we will sleep in the earth until our judgement

      4. Many people do Gloria, many people believe in only parts of the Bible and when you show them what it says, they say ”but he don’t mean that”…or ”well if that is so then how come such and such preach and teach this…?”…it’s because the teachers don’t believe it either! A lot of healing, miracle healings, people frown on and call it pentecostal, as if they are the only ones who believe in miracles though they seem to be the only ones who know where the scriptures are on it, yet sad to say many will use those scriptures to lure in people for their own profit. Sad…ju7st like all the other gifts of the Spirit, it’s explained away to make the teller look smart even when he flat refuses to believe they are for today just like yesterday and will be tomorrow until Jesus returns…The Baptist as a whole will even admit that there is a ‘gift of tongues; (refusing to believe there is an evidence in receiving the Baptism of The Holy Ghost, but the ‘gift is separate and they’ll tell you all about ”the 13th chapter of Corinthians ….it’s better to ‘love’….to get you off them refusing to believe God’s Word in an area they reject…so yes Gloria many people only believe parts of The Bible …(smile)

      5. Hi Andrea,

        It really astounds me how someone can say they believe in Christ, believe that there is a Heaven, but then stop-wait there is no hell?

        Oh, sometimes I wish I had more time, to say all the things Christ has shown me (Glory goes to him always). But then I suppose a few like Dean would doubt that too.

        To not believe in the entire Word of God, is to not believe in Christ fully.

      6. Gloria you are not being honest or fair ,continualy putting words in my mouth. I never said I did not beleive there is a place called hell , I made it clear that I did not think that GOD would have such a place in his new restored universe.And you know that our disscusion was about {is hell eternal} but you chose to spread false gossip about my beliefs, so I am to be scoffed at, now if you read revelations 20 , it clearly states hell will end up in the lake of fire,and that is why I made the statement to ivar.As it has become quiet clear you do not follow the teachings of JESUS and have no opinions of your own and you have attended a penticostal church from a joung age,, one has to come to the conclusion you have bean brainwashed by man , I advise you to leave this man made church and seek the truth while there is still time and you to can delight in GODS messanger. . .

      7. Okay Dean let’s try this another way.

        In Luke 16 the Rich man ends up in hell. How can the rich man end up in hell if it is as you say, we “just sleep”? What is this place you speak of where we go after we die? I believe you are more than just confused. Is this something that Wyatt has taught?

        What you said was and i’m quoting you here: “They dont go anywhere, or you could say they go to the place before there birth witch was nowhere they cease to exist,it would be as if they never where .”

        I’ve told taken several verses from the Word of God, and proved you were wrong.

        You’ve also stated: however I do not agree with an eternal hell ,I cannot see such a place being part of GODS restored universe.

        The Word of God proves you wrong.

        Yet when I asked you to prove what you speak of, you take offense of it. If you are here to learn from the Word of God, why do you not behave humble as if you are willing to learn?

        Whether you believe it or not, there is a hell right at this moment with people in it. There is a lake of fire for judgment. It’s sad how you easily follow man (Wyatt), but then doubt the word of God, because if you believed what God wrote, then you will see when the rich man was in hell, he cried out to Abraham because of the pain he was in.

        Also, do not attack the church I attend. and yes, it is pentecostal and those who attend the church believe in The father, the son, the Holy Spirit. we believe that Jesus heals, and we believe that Jesus is our King.

        Please be humble, and acknowledge at least that the Bible verses prove you wrong.

        Mark 9

        Causing to Stumble
        42 “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them if a large millstone were hung around their neck and they were thrown into the sea. 43 If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out. [44] [b] 45 And if your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into hell. [46] [c] 47 And if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, 48 where

        “‘the worms that eat them do not die,
        and the fire is not quenched.’[d]

  6. Gloria, I took offence because you presumed I would dought things our LORD has shown you, and dissapointed you enterd into false gossip about me with the smileing ? scoffing ? Andrea! The bible speaks of the dead in the sea……they are not in hell , I think these are the pre- flood dead,it also speaks of the dead,I think these are the dead in the earth after the flood….. and they are not in hell as the bible speaks of hell being seperate of them ,who GOD judges swiftly and sends straight to hell is his buisness.The unbeleivers and unsaved sinners will face there judgement at the end of the 7000 years and the condemed, along with hell will be cast in the lake of fire and totaly destroyed and will be no more .So yes I do now that hell exists, and who knows what abominations dwell there ,witch raises the question if the end times are to be like the days of Noa ,is Satans antichrist allready beaning genneticly modified to use 100% of his brain power {bearing in mind we only use 10% of ours} imagine the wounders such a being can do ?

    1. Dean,

      Your comments are more of personal opinions. First, Jesus sends no one to hell. It is our decision to accept Christ or not, and so based on how we live on earth, that is what sends us to heaven or hell.

      Second, once we die we do not cease to exist.

      Third, I did not enter false gossip about you. Why are you on this site if you believe so? We are here to discuss the Word of God. You claim “false gossip”, but I’ve quoted you on your own words.

      I noticed you avoid answering my question about the Rich Man and Lazarus.

      Hebrews 9:27 Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment,

      Also Satan will use “lying wonders” and will deceive many into taking the mark of the beast.

      But this is the time we can spread the Word of God, spread his promise, in hopes that many will accept him, and repent.

      1. Gloria sometimes writen words are understood differant to the way they were intended for someone to undrstand,my brief explanations are bound to get misenterpreted ! out of 100 people prehaps 1% will get close to fully understanding the whole bible yet everyone thinks they are of that 1%. Fortunately decifering the bible is not what is required to be saved, neither is it the reason I stumbled on this site.My reasons I have made clear and that is to use proof/evidance to show the lost that the bible is a true record of our history and that the sacrifice of the son of GOD who also created us has yet to be fully understood, Gloria I can honestly say that you are the only person I have ever discused the bible with and I thank you for your tme ,but I am going to wait so I can hear the whole truth from those who wrote it , I bid you fair well and may JESUS keap you safe in these strange times

      2. Dear dean kevin heyes

        Shalom

        You wrote:

        Gloria I can honestly say that you are the only person I have ever discused the bible with and I thank you for your time.

        My comment:

        I love this kind of statements, and I know Jesus rejoice over your confession.

        You have come to a site, where His name is lifted up, and His Words honored.
        News That Matters is a site for free expression in regards to matters of faith. There are some rules, that I as the editor will request you to follow.

        1. Jew-hate and antisemitic slur’s are not permitted.

        2. Those who use filthy language will be spammed.

        3. Insults without regrets will not be tolerated.

        I also demand that those who comment, shall reply to my questions. This is my authority as the Editor.

      3. Dean,

        You said: out of 100 people prehaps 1% will get close to fully understanding the whole bible

        My comment: Where did you find that statistic? Did you make that up? You want to understand God’s word, then get close to King Jesus. It’s as simple as that.

        Your comment: My reasons I have made clear and that is to use proof/evidance to show the lost that the bible is a true record of our history and that the sacrifice of the son of GOD who also created us has yet to be fully understood,

        My Comment: So you are one of those that need proof to believe? When having faith in Christ is all you need.

        Romans 8:24 For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he already has?

        2 Corinthians 4:18 So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.

        Your comment: Gloria I can honestly say that you are the only person I have ever discused the bible with and I thank you for your tme ,but I am going to wait so I can hear the whole truth from those who wrote it , I bid you fair well and may JESUS keap you safe in these strange times

        My comment: Dean, you don’t get it. Jesus wrote the Bible! The men were inspired by the Holy Spirit. It’s Gods’ Word. You need not to wait for proof. Place your trust entirely on Christ.

        May Jesus touch your heart, and awaken you to his Word. God Bless.

    2. Back up the track Sweetie…before you assume what I believe in line with what you have said to Gloria….know this …you are wrong..I do not nor did I ever say I did not know where the ‘dead’ are whether the discussion is on land, sea or air …for The Word of God clearly says where…and HE, God is not prone to change His Word nor Truth to suit or desire the approval of anyone! HE does however desire for us to ‘believe Him’ and anyone who lines up with His Word…He is pleased…How do I know…”The Bible tells me so: …
      >>you said.. Andrea! The bible speaks of the dead in the sea……they are not in hell , I think these are the pre- flood dead,it also speaks of the dead,I think these are the dead in the earth after the flood…<<<<<
      Here you said I think….these are such and such…God don't think HE knows and He has told us clearly and plainly in His Word so there is no room for 'I think or so and so said so'…God said …that makes it 'so' …(smile) ….†

      1. Andrea

        you applauded the guy Todd for writing that once a prostitute is saved she will never sin again. that any one saved will never sin again?
        Are you and Todd saved. Have you sinned since. Yes you have.

        That means you are perfect now after being saved. Where in the world and what book are you reading from?

        Todd which you said Amen to Andrea has just written a commentary that when you are saved you wont sin again? ok so Todd just wrote we are on the same level as Jesus. Perfect now.
        and andrea is the one who wrote about the clothes as the people who don’t dress as you would like or your taken out of context scripture suggest, their close are a give away to false prophets with out even opening their mouths ? again explain Jesus…dressed in a style unfit for a king riding on a donkey. Legalistic. Pharocies thinking. Read people read with un filtered glasses. The Holy Spirit gives us revelation of the written word. Not you! Better yet start looking up the Greek and Hebrew meanings of some of these words. like Fear the Lord.
        You think it literally means fear I bet. Fear of the Lord means to be Awestruck!

        Burns me up to see such uneducated writing God forbid if any unbeliever gets saved and reads that totally false man made writings that if you get saved you will never sin again! Oh Lord that right there will destroy a new believer. Once they sin again they keep on and on and on trying to get saved. Satans tool for them to feel shamed and they have such a rigid hard core impossible Jesus to follow. the correct statement is Repent after a stumble.

        once saved your saved period!

        Hard core legalistic comments that you yourselves havent even lived …the sinless life after you were saved.

        Best advice. Really get to know who God really is and His Love.

        Todd andrea until you receive the true love of God You will continue to preach the bad news.

        i pray no new believer gets near this page. Hide this page Lord Hide it In Jesus name. ! hallelujah let only the truth be told and I command in Jesus name you killers of faith be gone. in Jesus name. Amen

  7. Hi! I was involved with the “prophetic movement” for over 7 years, and I can attest, from first-hand knowledge that these people (Bentley, Johnson, Joyner) are very deceived. If you want to, you can read my story here: http://www.honorofkings.org/elijahlist/

    I also have a video of Johnson’s daughter-in-law preaching, and you can see some of the fruit that his ministry is producing. http://www.honorofkings.org/jenn-johnson

    God bless. If you feel it is inappropriate for me to post external links on this blog, feel free to delete this post.

  8. Why don’t you guys rather focus on the muslims making all of the good food halaal, instead of causing division in the body of Christ. Why don’t you guys rather try convert sinners, instead of trying to convert the converted? Why don’t you all rather pray and seek forgiveness for this crucifying other children of GOD for doing good, how can satan heal satan I ask? I rather think u guys are making Jesus weak by all this fingerpointing!

  9. “More churches have been destroyed by the accuser of the brethren and its faultfinding than by either immorality or misuse of church funds. So prevalent is this influence in our society that, among many, faultfinding has been elevated to the status of a ‘ministry‘! The Lord has promised, however, that in His house accusing one another will be replaced with prayer, and faultfinding with a love that covers a multitude of sins.”
     – Francis Frangipane.
     

    Many years ago, I stumbled across a website devoted to exposing false prophets. Among those being “exposed” were Benny Hinn, Oral Roberts, Jack Hayford, and even Billy Graham. As a young Christian, I was appalled. I had no idea that so many of the people I’d been listening to were false prophets! I was on the website for hours, reading about the sins of these men, the false prophecies they had given, the healings that had not taken place, the false doctrine they’d been spreading. I immediately sent the website link to a good friend of mine, a mature woman of faith, who wrote back with the following reply: “Why did you send this to me? What are you getting out of all this?” I was offended. What did she mean, “What am I getting out of this?” Didn’t she, too, want to keep from being deceived?! I have since come to understand her gentle rebuke for, although I didn’t know it at the time, I was participating in one of the oldest schemes of the devil (1).

    The truth is that if we look hard enough, we can uncover the sins of any pastor, preacher, or brother in Christ. Given enough time, we can expose false doctrines and teachings. And if a minister claims to have a healing or prophetic ministry, we will eventually discover prophecies that were not fulfilled and people who were not healed (2). And yet, does this mean that these men are not Christians? And if they are Christians, do they deserve this type of persecution?

    While correction is certainly biblical, accusation is a weapon of the enemy. When Jesus corrected the churches in Asia (Rev 2-3) He first praised them for their good works. This is the essence of Godly correction. This is the “spirit of gentleness” that Paul speaks of that is needed to “restore such a one” (Gal 6:1). In Mat 18:15, we are given the precedent for Godly correction that works to build and not destroy. The first step is to bring up the error “between you and him alone.” Should this fail to bring correction, the second step is to take with us “two or more witnesses” and again speak concerning the issue. Only after these two attempts have been tried and failed, are we to “tell it to the church.” Many, however, publish videos, tapes, sermons, newsletters, and even entire websites devoted to the public criticism and reproach of people they have never met or spoken to. They never present the virtues of the people they are attacking but set out only to expose their sin. Under the pretense of protecting sheep from “gnat sized” errors in doctrines or practices, they force the flock to swallow the “camel-sized” error of loveless correction (3).

    Satan is called the “accuser of the brethren” (Rev. 12:10). When we give heed to unbiblical forms of correction, or employ these methods ourselves, we open ourselves up to Satan’s influence in our own lives (Gal 6:1). Therefore, it is extremely important that we examine the method of correction employed by those who seek to warn us of so-called “false prophets” before we give audience to their teachings.  Likewise, those of us who see that a brother has fallen into sin must examine our motives and be sure to employ biblical methods of correction. Correction should never be about exposing sin, but restoring those around us to Jesus Christ. We must realize that “if the word of rebuke or correction does not offer grace for restoration, it is not the voice of [our] Shepherd. If [we] are Christ’s sheep, [we] will flee from it” (4). Let us remember that Christ has called us to unity in the body, and to love.

    – “Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things” (1 Cor 13).

    If we have participated in accusations against others, let us now seek forgiveness and begin to pray for those in leadership positions who are in such need of it. In many cases, those things which we deem wrong or lacking in the ministries of others are the very areas in which the Lord seeks to position us for intercession. “We must learn to pray for one another instead of praying on one another” (5). If we have been influenced by ungodly accusations against those in the Body, let us confess this now and renew our efforts to “believe all things, hope all things, and think no evil.”

    “And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus” (Phil 4:7).

     

    1.) I understand that most of the people who reject Benny Hinn and those like him do so out of a desire to protect themselves and others from deception, for it is true that many deceived groups have come from those who have claimed to hear God’s voice or work miracles. However, it is important to recognize that it is ultimately the responsibility of the Holy Spirit to “guide us in all truth” (John 16:13) and “keep us from stumbling” (Jude 24-25). We must be careful that in our zeal to protect ourselves we do not hinder our own growth. Will we live our lives attempting to remain free from error, only to make the bigger mistake of remaining powerless and out of communication with the Holy Spirit? Will we hide our talents and tell the Master when He comes that we were afraid of being wrong? We are each responsible for guarding our hearts against that which would attempt to destroy our faith. Bill Johnson once wrote: “I pay no attention to the warnings of possible excess from those who are satisfied with lack.” Likewise, I cannot entertain criticisms for those who walk in power by those content to walk in powerlessness. My faith is too valuable to me.

    2.) Many who discredit these ministers point to prophecies that have not come to pass. They quote Deut. 18:20-22 which tells us that a prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in God’s name should be sentenced to death. It goes on to define speaking presumptuously, saying: “if the thing does not happen or come to pass… the prophet has spoken it presumptuously.” Yet it is important to note that Jonah was never considered a “false prophet” although Nineveh was not destroyed (Jonah 3). Ezekiel is not considered a “false prophet” although the destruction of Tyre was not completed during the Babylonian siege (Eze 26-29). Neither is Jeremiah considered a “false prophet” although he said that Zedekiah would die in peace (having my children killed in front of me, my eyes cut out, and dying in a prison is definitely not my definition of “peace.” [see Jer. 34:4-5; 52:10-11]). The point is that strict adherence to Deut. 18 can cause us to reject even Biblical prophets. Prophecy is a complicated matter, subject to interpretation, circumstance and perception. If we really want to find reasons to reject a prophet, we will eventually succeed.

    Others focus on the sins of these men as credible reasons to disregard their teachings. Yet King David was both an adulterer and a murderer. Solomon infiltrated Israel with the worship of other Gods. Moses’ sin kept him from entering the Promised Land. Limiting ourselves to accepting only the teachings of those who have never fallen into sin would be to disregard large portions of the bible itself.

    Still others may focus on the healings that have not taken place under those who have healing ministries. Yet Jesus’ ministry at the Pool of Bethesda only produced one healing, although there was “a great multitude of sick people, blind, lame, paralyzed, waiting for the moving of the water” (John 5:3). Will we negate the miracle that took place there, because the others waiting were not healed as well? The ministries of Benny Hinn, Todd Bentley, Oral Roberts, and others should be commended for the healings that have taken place, not condemned for those that have not.

    3.) What those seeking to expose the deceitfulness of others may not realize is that in many ways they are actually causing more problems within the body of Christ than the “false prophets” themselves. These types of criticisms cause many believers to stumble and even doubt their faith. As Christians, we are all “members of one another” (Eph 4:25). Leviticus 18:6-10 tells us that we are not to uncover the nakedness of a relative “for their nakedness is yours.” When we expose the sins of other believers to the world, we are exposing all of Christianity to ridicule. Love, however, focuses on the good in others and always finds a redemptive way to “cover a multitude of sins” (1 Peter 4:8).

    Exposing the Accuser of the Brethren, Truths Compiled From the Writings of Francis Frangipane, Francis Frangipane, Arrow Publications, Cedar Rapids, LA, 1991, pg 12, 16 and 17

    4.) Ibid, pg. 13

    1. Francis Frangipane is a false teacher himself. And the Bible says to examine doctrines (Acts 17:11), and to expose false teachers (Ephesians 5:11). We do that. And you won’t stop us.

      We obey the Bible. We don’t obey false teachers. If you don’t like what you read, there are places that will tell you lies and fables if that is what you prefer.

    2. There is Only One Gospel, and anyone not preaching that gospel will be accursed. Apostle Paul warned against the false teachers who were creeping into the Churches and preaching
      a different doctrine. Anyone who ‘twists’ the word of God is headed through the ‘wide gates that lead to destruction.’ Don’t be one of them.

      6″I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.” (Galatians 1:6-9)

      1. Hey its okay, I don’t elaborate on anything. Just as you guys expose other’s sins, I showed you where you are doing wrong. Don’t try justify what you do as wrong with scripture. Jesus said to love one another, not hate. So if I point you to Jesus then I practice love. I don’t poont you to satan, as you guys do here, maybe unconscious, I don’t know. But I speak grace and love to you all. Please do not bother mentioning me as I won’t reply, I’ve done what I had to do here 🙂

      2. The only thing wikazi has done is to deny the Bible and spread hate, since the BiIble says that true love must include truth (1 Corinthians 13:6). Since wikazi hates the truth, then he is not spreading love. He is spreading hate.

        Love tells the truth. Jesus is truth and love. False prophets tell lies, which is hate.

      3. Andy, you are absolutely right. There are certain people who have a contentious spirit (not from God), and who argue things that if they read and knew the Word of God, they would see the folly of their ways. Satan and his minions are truly busy in these last days, spreading ‘the doctrine of demons’ through false teachers, to all who will listen, because they ‘did not have a love for the truth.’ God bless.

    3. Dear wikazi

      Shalom, and love in Jesus.

      You wrote:

      Prophecy is a complicated matter, subject to interpretation, circumstance and perception. If we really want to find reasons to reject a prophet, we will eventually succeed.

      My comment:

      This is an interesting observation. Basically you are accusing God of lying. Or being unable to speak through any Prophet. There is just a lot of fog out there.

      1. Dear Wikazi

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        How on earth did you come up with that observation?

        My comment:

        Jesus told us to watch out for false prophets. But if here is to much fog blurring your spiritual life, you will not be able to see the difference between true and false. Surely seeing, but still being blind as a bat.

      2. Shalom Ivar,

        I hope Wakazi gets to read this in reference to his statement about Prophecy, where He said: “Prophecy is a complicated matter, subject to interpretation, circumstance and perception.
        If we really want to find reasons to reject a prophet, we will eventually succeed.” I’ve never heard such utter nonsense.
        I hope that he will especially read 20-21 of what the Apostle Peter had to say about the subject of Prophecy:

        16″For we did not follow cleverly devised tales when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of His majesty. 17 For when He received honor and glory from God the Father, such an utterance as this was made to Him by the Majestic Glory, “This is My beloved Son with whom I am well-pleased”— 18 and we ourselves heard this utterance made from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain. 19 So we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts. 20 But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, 21 for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.” (2 Peter 1:16-21).

        God bless.

  10. Initial Membership List of the Knights of Malta *
    Compiled by Eric Samuelson, J.D.
    Edward Fenech Adami
    Drolor Bosso Adamti
    General Allavena
    George W. Anderson
    James Jesus Angelton
    Samuel Alito
    Julian Allason
    Joe M. Allbaugh
    Roberto Alejos Arzu
    Silvio Berlusconi
    Grandmaster, Prince Andrew Willoughby Ninian Bertie (cousinof QEII) deceased.
    (Former Prime Minister) Tony Blair
    Michael Bloomberg
    Elmer Bobst
    Marie Corinne Morrison Claiborne Boggs (Dame Lindy Boggs)
    Geoffrey T. Boisi
    John Robert Bolton
    Charles Joseph Bonaparte
    Prince Valerio Borghese
    Gen. William Boykin
    Dr. Barry Bradley
    Nicholas Brady
    Joseph Brennan
    Monsignor Mario Brini
    Pat Buchanan
    James Buckley
    William F. Buckley, Jr.
    George H.W Bush
    George W. Bush
    Jeb Bush
    Precott Bush, Jr.
    Frank Capra
    (King) Juan Carlos
    Frank Charles Carlucci III
    William Casey
    Michael Chertoff
    Noam Chomsky
    Gustavo Cisneros
    (President) Bill Clinton
    (Cardinal) Terence Cooke
    Gerald Coughlin
    (Senator) John Danforth
    John J. DeGioia
    Cartha DeLoach
    Giscard d’Estaing
    Giulliano di Bernardo
    Bill Donovan
    Allen Dulles
    Avery Dulles
    (Archbishop) Edward Egan
    (Count) Franz Egon
    Frank J. Fahrenkopf Jr.
    Noreen Falcone
    John A. Farrell
    Matthew Festing (79th Grand Master)
    Edwin J. Feulner
    Francis D. Flanagan
    Raymond Flynn
    Adrian Fortescue (16th century)
    John C. Gannon
    Licio Gelli
    Reinhard Gehlen
    Burton Gerber
    Rudy Giuliani
    Emilio T. González
    Dr. Lawrence Gonzi
    Sir John Gorman CVO
    Thomas K. Gorman
    J. Peter Grace
    Alan Greenspan
    Lord Guthrie of Craigiebank
    Gen. Alexander Haig
    Cyril Hamilton
    Otto von Hapsburg
    William Randolph Hearst
    Edward L. Hennessy, Jr.
    (Baron) Conrad Hilton
    Heinrich Himmler
    Richard Holbrooke
    J. Edgar Hoover
    Leonard G. Horowitz
    Daniel Imperato
    Lee Iococca
    Carl Nicholas Karcher
    Francis L. Kellogg
    Joseph Kennedy
    (Senator) Ted Kennedy
    Henry A. Kissinger
    Bowie Kuhn
    Cardinal Pio Laghi
    Cathy L. Lanier
    Joseph P. Larkin
    Louis Lehrman
    Leonard Leo
    General de Lorenzo
    Clara Booth Luce (Dame)
    Henry Luce
    Thabo Mbeki
    Angus Daniel McDonald
    George MacDonald
    Nelson Mandela
    Avro Manhattan
    Alexandre de Marenches
    John McCone
    Thomas Melady
    Sir Stewart Menzies
    (Prince) Angelo di Mojana
    Thomas S. Monaghan
    Lord Christopher Walter Monckton
    Rupert Murdoch
    Robert James “Jim” Nicholson
    Charles G. Noska, Sr.
    Oliver North
    Joseph A. O’Hare
    Francis (Frank) V. Ortiz
    Thomas ‘Tip’ O’Neill
    George Pataki
    Cardinal Patronus
    Fra Giancarlo Pallavicini
    Fra Hubert Pallavicini
    Franz von Papen
    Baron Luigi Parrilli
    Juan Peron
    Peter G. Peterson
    Harold A.R. ‘Kim’ Philby
    Augusto Pinochet
    Eric Prince
    John Francis Queeny
    John J. Raskob
    (President) Ronald E. Reagan
    Joseph Retinger
    John Charles Reynolds
    George Rocca
    Nelson Rockefeller
    David Rockefeller
    Francis Rooney
    Amschel Mayer von Rothschild
    Rick Santorum
    General Giuseppe Santovito
    Antonin Scalia
    Walter Schellenburg
    Phyllis Schlafly (Dame)
    John E Schmitz
    Joseph Edward Schmitz (Blackwater)
    Stephen A. Schwarzman
    Frank Shakespeare
    Martin F. Shea
    Clay Shaw
    William Edward Simon Jr.
    Jennifer Sims
    Frank Sinatra
    Frederick W. Smith
    Cardinal Francis Spellman
    Francix X. Stankard
    Steve Stavros
    Myron Taylor
    George Tenet
    Fritz Thyssen
    Richard Torrenzano
    Admiral Giovanni Torrinsi
    (Prince) Anton Turkul
    Ted Turner
    James B. Utt (John Birch Soc.)
    Albrecht von Boeselager
    Winfried Henckel von Donnersmark
    Thomas Von Essen
    Amschel Mayer von Rothschild
    Robert Ferdinand Wagner, Jr
    Kurt Waldheim
    General Vernon A. Walters
    Col. Albert J. Wetzel
    Canon Edward West
    Gen. William Westmoreland
    Gen. Charles A. Willoughby
    William Wilson
    Robert Zoellick
    Gen. Anthony Zinni

    Here is a list of the members of the order of malta. I do not see Rick Joyner’s name in that list. Can you elaborate as to why his name does not appear on the list, or is it that his name is written in the Lamb’s book of life?

    1. Dear wikazi

      Shalom.

      Please write brief comments, and focus on the conserved topics.

      You might take that arrogant tone, and try to present your self as something great. But if falls flat in front of people who humbly research each topic, before we give insight to others.

      It might be interesting for you to know that Rick Joyner him self, on his website, has confirmed that he is a knight of the Order of Malta.

      http://www.morningstarministries.org/about/questions-and-answers/knights-malta-rick-joyner#.UYWMu4KbyjE

      And in regards to the book of life, I do not think you have been permitted to read it!.

      1. I wish to thank you for exposing the truth of Bill Johnson and Rick Joyner and Tod Bentley.

        They truly are soldier of faith and deserve respect due to them.

        I want to honor them in front of you, because I love them even more now.

        Do not feel left out as you also are loved by me brother. How I wish that we all could be knights of malta.

      2. Dear wikazi

        Shalom.

        Go, have fun among the Vatican priests and their supporters in the “protestant camp”. There must be place for all Knight’s of Malta in the gay sauna in Rome I wrote about some weeks ago.

        Joke’s a side:

        I hope you will not end up in this sauna with these men. But rather get deliverance from the false anointing you are walking in. Who laid their hands on you, and said you have received the Holy Spirit?

      3. Bless you Ivan, may the Lord truly bless you.

        And the annointing I have is not mine, but belongs to GOD, the true and only Creator of the salvation made available to men.

        It is in the visitation to widows and caring for orphans, praying for the weak and strengthening those who fall, so they can become strong again. It is in loving the neighbor and loving the Lord I find my satisfaction. He made me a true light as He is. In Him I have my being, my life and my everything is in Jesus. Visit my blogs and you will see brother Ivan

        To the soon returning King, the Spirit and the Bride say come Lord Jesus, come

      4. Dear wikazi

        Shalom, and love in Jesus.

        Please explain, as short as you can, what this verse in the Bible means:

        2 Corinthians 11:4
        For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.

  11. Wikazi is a hypocrite. He/she says “don’t judge”, but then tells everyone here that they are going to hell.

    But the Bible says to judge doctrine, and wikazi’s favorite “teachers” are false teachers. And we will continue to say it, and all the talk won’t stop it.

  12. I have compassion for you and righteous anger towards you Strom and I pray for mercy for God to hold back His hand of judgement from you for judging others, especially the ones called in this time for cutting edge ministry that the religious spirit in you cant accept.

    In the end times now people are going to have to be equipped for the spiritual war fare we are only seeing the very beginning of.

    its apparent you do not know the word as you are not talking about these men you are talking about the Holy Spirit and his giftings.

    Kathryn Kulman, do you even know who she was?, The same as the three you mentioned. Do you know about the Azusa street revival back in the 1906 was lead by a one eye black man named William Seymore, lead the same kind of revival. Healings miracles signs and wonders. yes a one eyed black man. As the word says he uses the odd ones to confound the wise. Like Seymore and Todd Bentley.

    And many followed the same path , John G Lake, Binny Hinn. Derek Prince was into deliverance ministry which along with that comes the other gifts. Derek Prince is praising God now up there in the heavenlies as he is as excited as the rest with the supernatural impact to equip believers.

    We wrestle not against flesh and blood but fight against the rulers the authorities against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in heavenly realms. Ephesians 6:12.

    Its obvious that denomination Religion is all over you and the spirit of Religion rules your life not The Lord Baptist I am sure.

    you dont know the word. You are using it like a coupon book to put down that which you have never experienced and relate it demons and false prophets.

    Do you even know the characteristic of a false prophet? Let me enlighten you One that glorifies themselves its all about them and is all about money and definitely does not glorify God or lead any to salvation.

    True men being used by God Like Todd Bill and Rick gives all the Glory to God and reminds people that they are not doing any thing and but its all the Lord.

    False prophets such as Jim Jones the real brain washer, will be brought to swift destruction. Todd was never destroyed. He is back leading millions to Christ. over the World in his Walmart white tennis shoes.

    Todd Bentley just lead over 30k Hindus to salvation. And since age 22has lead over or close to a million to Christ.

    False prophets are men pleasers. Todd Bentley is certainly not a men pleaser as if he was he would dress like those stiff neck suits in a tie and other things. Tattoos and jeans and a shirt is definitely not a men pleaser, Todd was given a ministry because he spent hours and hours in the secret place of the Lord.

    Bill Johnson nor Todd Bentley mesmerize crowds. People are in fear of God which mean awestruck by the Lord and His love for them spoken through these men and demonstrating his love through these vessels.

    Hey you missed the word If it’s says IF it were possible even the elect would be deceived. Not even the elect would be deceived. The word IF changes the whole sentence. and would be deceived not WILL be deceived.
    changes the entire meaning.

    These men who you try to destroy through your ignorance are out on the battle field going after souls to save them from hell. The real battle field where you come up against every demon to destroy you. True warriors of the faith to fight for souls.

    And what do you do Strom,? Nothing! but criticize judge and point fingers. You have brought down untold curses upon your self. Unfortunately you will be judged back the way you judge Bill Johnson, Rick Joyner and Todd Bentley.

    I know all three and you are so way off is almost comical but really truly sad for you.

    I am no bubbled head non discerning woman. I have been on the battle in Africa twice i know the price thats paid to let the Lord trust you with His word His people saved an unsaved. And the Holy Spirit giftings that flow when i am in the anointing.

    Get delivered from your critical spirit, judgmental attitude, your gossip to destroy people. From out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. Gossip is an abomination to the Lord because gossip is like murder in fact it is murder.

    Once you get set free of your own demons that flow from your mouth and put down Gods anointed which is just, killing you and any hopes of real work for the Lord, maybe God can use you in ministry, you better clean up your hatred, jealousy and your own false doctrine you have bought into real quick. God is getting rid of the mockers of the Holy Spirit and men and woman who have run after the Lord to be used for the good of bringing people to Christ real fast these days.

    Strom i think you will never make it after what i have just read, and the twisted doctrine to keep people from walking with the Holy Spirit and The Lord in ways you will never know, Gods holy wrath will destroy you and any one these days that try and block the Work of the Lord from his chosen anointed. Chosen anointed because these men paid a high price and ran after God and gave up a lot to be with the Lord. 4 to 12 hours a day to get what they have and bring millions to Christ.

    God have Mercy on Strom and deliver him from severe deception and hatred.

    candice carley!

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