Leftist Israelis hope CIA can stop attack on Iran

Former CIA chief tells Haaretz: Decision on Iran strike can wait.

CIA-boss Michael Hayden is not a trustworthy partner for Israel.

Iran will achieve nuclear-weapons capability no earlier than 2013 or 2014, says Michael Hayden, adding that the U.S. would be better equipped to launch a military operation against the Islamic Republic than Israel.

A decision on attacking Iran need not be taken at present, as current assessments point to its achieving nuclear-weapons capabilities no earlier than 2013 or 2014, former director of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Michael Hayden told Haaretz on Monday.

Source: Israeli daily Haaretz

My comment:

The US has basically not behaved in a manner that makes Washington a suitable partner for Israel.

President Georg W. Bush promised Japan and South Korea, that the US would not permit North Korea going nuclear.

When Pyongyang trigged its first bomb on October 9, 2006, the US military did nothing to stop this nation from continue down the nuclear path.

Why should Israel believe that Washington would be able to do better in regards to Tehran?

Israel should not listen to the CIA, nor the Pentagon. The security of the Jewish people is a matter for the IDF and the incur cabinet in Jerusalem.

You can only be sure about one thing. The World will not get a prior warning when the Israel Air Force destroy the Iranian nuclear weapons program.

Written by Ivar

30 thoughts on “Leftist Israelis hope CIA can stop attack on Iran

  1. …(smile) …You can only be sure about one thing. The World will not get a prior warning when the Israel Air Force destroy the Iranian nuclear weapons program…..That’s a Fact 🙂 it’s all over but the dust settling when Israel gets in the middle of something….The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is still with Israel…

    1. 1Jn 2:22-23 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:

      “The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is still with Israel…”

      The God of this world is in control of Israel at this time ie… Satan as the rulers of Israel are all Antichrists. But yes many shall be saved when they believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and all those who are of the true Israel which is spiritual will be saved.

      Rom_2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

      1. Good Soldier
        Greetings and peace to you
        What you say is correct and yes the god of this world is in control of the unbelieving rulers of Israel. He is not in control of those in Israel who believe in Jesus messiah. He is ruler in their lives. Not all of Israel is Israel.

      2. ..Amen…..Rom_2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

  2. I respect your views Good Soldier but I think it is wrong to characterize Israel as being ruled by Satan. The gospel is being heard in Israel today and Messianic Jews report that there are increasing numbers of Israelis coming to faith in Yeshua. God is definitely doing a work there and we should be supporting that work rather than turning our back on Israel. We invite God’s blessing when we love the Jewish people.

    1. Sure thing I love all lost people especially Jewish people but not the Israeli Government, just go do your research on the Israeli Supreem court building and you will find that it has a 13 level Illuminati Pyramid with a whole were the all seeing eye should be. God is doing a might work from the foundations up as Jesus the rock of our salvation is the cornerstone of our faith but Lucifer is ruling from the top down and he is the capstone and ruler of this world which is why the NIV changes cornerstone to capstone and in Isaiah 14:12 Lucifer to Morning Star, Lucifer is busy ascending onto the mount of the congregation and has even manage to take a title for our Lord Jesus Christ who is come in the flesh and give it to himself and the Christians haven’t taken any notice. Judaism is an Antichrist religion and if you Google the blasphemous statements about Jesus contained in the Talmud I’m sure you will be shocked to find out what Jewish Rabbi’s teach about our Lord Jesus Christ.

      For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

  3. Ivar,
    Greetings and peace
    I agree with your comment that Israel should not think they must receive the okay fom any one to do what they must do. They must act on their own. If the intelligence is persuasive for them to be as concerned as they are then they must act. With or without anyone’s consent. If they have been persuaded by almighty God, then go for it. It appears that God has been with them all along in their battles, their should be no reason to believe that he won’t be with them in this one

    1. How can God be with them if they do not have his Son? Are you sure it’s not Satan setting them up to be slaughtered so he can move the UN to Jerusalem and rebuild the 3rd Temple so that the NWO will be completed? World War III is about to start just as it was planned in the writings of Albert Pike a Religious World War. Out the other side of this war we will see Apollyon Ruling for 5 prophetic months as per Revelation chapter 9 which is 150 then the Lord will return as per Revelation chapter 10:1. Just my take on our position in God prophetic time table, I don’t hold to a 7 year tribulation at the end of time. I hold to a historicity view point and from my calculations Israel can back into the Land right on time. Did you know that the Dome of the Rock was begun to be constructed in the year 688AD “The Abomination that make desolate” in my view and 1260 later Israel was made a nation in one day. The tribulation or the time of Jacob’s Trouble is 2520 years in length in my view and not 7 years at the end of time.

      Eze_4:6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.

      Lev_26:18 And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.

      Seven time is 2520 years just like times time and half a time is 1260 years ie.. half of the Tribulation. So I believe the curse has been lifted and the Jew’s can now hear the gospel again and this is true because more Jews are being saved at this time than ever before in history all over the world.

      When the final man of sin is revealed the son of perdition the 8th King then we will know that the Lord will be coming soon.

  4. Good Soldier I did not say he was with them, I said it appears that God has been with them. Their is a difference.
    You are reading the opinions of men. Just read scripture only. REvelation 1:1 The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him to show his servants what must SOON take place. 3. Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written because the time is NEAR.
    22:7 Behold, I am coming SOON! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book.
    22:10. Then he told me, Do not seal up the prophecy of this book, because the time is NEAR.
    Daniel 12:4 But you Daniel, close up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the END.
    One is not to be sealed because the time is near for the prophecy’s to take place. The other is to be sealed obviously because the prophecies of Daniel were to take place in his distant future.
    Not soon. In Matt 24 Jesus refers to Daniels prophecy. Jesus is prophesying events that will occur for the generation that is in existence at that time. Daniel’s prophecy was to be sealed until the times of the end and Jesus refers to it in his Olivet discourse as something that will happen before the END of the age occurs.
    Matt 24:3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us” they said, When will this happen, ,and what will be the sign of your coming and of the END of the age.
    Matt 24:34, I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.

    1. “You are reading the opinions of men. Just read scripture only.”

      So are you a dispensationalist Todd? Because that is also the opinion of men like Darby and Scofield.

      What Bible version are you using Todd? it sounds like the ESV. If it is the ESV then go look up Isaiah 14:12 and you will find that Lucifer is called the Day Star which is another title for Jesus Christ.

      ESV Isa 14:12 “How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low!

      AV/KJV 2Pe 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

      I see the links I posted have been removed so much for Iron sharpens Iron. Both those links and the people behind them were actually Christian Zionists in there day but they did not hold to dispensationalism. Mr Grattan Guinness was predicting that Israel would be back in the Land by 1939 but he got his calculation wrong back in the late 1800’s because he didn’t have the benefit of hindsight that we have today.

      1. Good Soldier
        Peace brother.
        Actually I was reading from an NIV because thats what was laying on my desk at work. I do not own an ESV. I do have an american standard and a new King JAmes .I am aware that translations can cause confusion and am careful to try discern truth. I am not a dispensastionalist. I just read the bible. Dispensasionalist believe that many things are yet to come. From the verses I referenced, How do you see it.

      2. Good Soldier
        I forgot to say that my bibles have no notes. I want it that way so that I might not be swayed by men’s commentary. Its cool that you are Irish. I wish I could hear you. Anyway as i asked before
        how do you understand the verses i reference in the previous
        comment. Rev.1:1,3-22:7-22:10, Dan12:4 etc. Would like to hear your take on all that

      3. …..my bibles have no notes. I want it that way so that I might not be swayed by men’s commentary……

        Neither do mine….I’ve seen some Bibles with so much commentaries and speculations in them…once I asked someone ”Where is the Word?”….apparently it offended the Bible Scholar …as I was told ‘when you want to know more about the Bible you’ll enjoy these commentaries also…I reckon I’m just too simple minded, I prefer to listen to the One who told me who would be ‘telling me all truth, etc”…that is not a slam on anyone who wants all the commentaries, we go where we are fed I just never felt full from anything except The Word …

      4. Hi Andea,
        I totally agree the Holy Spirit will lead you into all truth. I don’t read commentary’s never have done. when I first got saved I listened to many dispensational verse by verse teachings but very quickly I saw through them as false teaching. The first major thing that God showed me in the scripture in answer to prayer was that the Abomination that makes desolate was the Dome on the Rock which I didn’t understand at first till I started researching the Dome on the rock.

        I think it is Ok to talk these things over as long as we don’t lift men up as having all truth. Test everything anyone says about Bible prophesy for yourself and pray to God to show it to you if it is the truth and don’t take my word for it as I’m just a sinner and might be wrong. If you hear it from the Lord then take it as fact and that was what happened with me about the dome on the rock which has lead me to an understanding of prophesy that was once held during the reformation but of which I had no knowledge of before the Lord opened my eyes and lead me out of dispensationalism.

      5. I read what you wrote ……I was also told nearly the same as you except…in a different verse topic….I will say however I am not a sinner,….I was a sinner and now I am saved by Grace…there is a big difference from ‘committing a sin’ …in that we have an advocate, The Lord Jesus Christ… the Church teaches we are all sinners….yet if we as The Word says I am born again ….I am no longer the nature of Satan….nor do I desire to return to his fold…but you’ll get ‘Tarred and Feathered’ real quick when you get that scripture in your heart and you know it to be Truth and not adhere to the doctrine of man again! …I refuse to ‘repeat after me (as some say)…I am a sinner and …..etc etc etc …Noooo I quickly say I am not a sinner….I was….but not now! There are way too many scriptures that taught me that ‘prayer is a lie’…(and it keeps the children of God in bondage in many areas)

      6. Hi Andea,
        I totally agree the Holy Spirit will lead you into all truth. I don’t read commentary’s never have done. when I first got saved I listened to many dispensational verse by verse teachings but very quickly I saw through them as false teaching. The first major thing that God showed me in the scripture in answer to prayer was that the Abomination that makes desolate was the Dome on the Rock which I didn’t understand at first till I started researching the Dome on the rock.

        I think it is Ok to talk these things over as long as we don’t lift men up as having all truth. Test everything anyone says about Bible prophesy for yourself and pray to God to show it to you if it is the truth and don’t take my word for it as I’m just a sinner and might be wrong. If you hear it from the Lord then take it as fact and that was what happened with me about the dome on the rock which has lead me to an understanding of prophesy that was once held during the reformation but of which I had no knowledge of before the Lord opened my eyes and lead me out of dispensationalism.

      7. You said ‘don’t take my word for it I’m just a sinner …..then dear you should Repent and be born again….you can’t be a sinner and a Christian at the same time….you can ‘commit sin but you can’t be the sin nature….so that when you ‘know The Word ….they can take your word for it for The Word is in you 🙂 and that is what you will speak !

        Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

      8. Interesting point regarding calling ones self a sinner after you are saved. I wasn’t going to post hear again but that needs an answer.

        1Jn 1:7-10 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

        I do see what you are saying Andrea and I accept your point and will not use that turn of phrase again. Thank you for the correction. I do sin yes but no I am not a sinner I am a Child of the Most High who could be in error so don’t trust me only trust the Holy Spirit to teach you the Bible. Men will speak of themselves but the Holy Spirit will only speak of Jesus.

        1Co 3:20-12 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain. Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;

        Dose that sound better? :~)

      9. G.S my heart is bubbling over with great joy in The Spirit ….you ‘heard’ and received….What a Wonderful Gift The Lord has given to me this morning….Thank you Sir and yes Thank you G.S…Anytime The Word does this my eyes flood with tears of gratitude to Our Lord and great thankfulness of His love and patience to me to even speak His Word….’What a job we have (smile) we work for a ‘Penny-a-Day’ and are far richer than the World could ever give us!

      10. Hi Todd

        Daniels visions where sealed until Pentecost and then understanding was given to the apostles when they received the Holy Spirit. Revelation is not sealed because we are living it out seal by seal until just before the seventh seal is opened when the wrath of God is poured out.

        Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

        Revelation is layered and Johns Visions overlap, just before the seventh Seal, Trumpet and Vial you will find the Church in heaven praising God. When the seventh Seal, Trumpet and Vial happen then the wrath of God is poured out. Daniels 70 weeks were fulfilled by Jesus fully in my view it is a great error to brake off the last week and land it at the end of time as is the case in dispensational thought.

        Mat 24:33-34 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

        you left out Matthew 24:33 so my question to you is what things?

        I would hold to the view that Jesus is talking about verses 29, 30, 31 and 32 in verse 34 and not the whole olivet discourse from start to finish, the rules of grammar dictate this. If I’m correct then when the tribulation is over then the last generation will see the coming of the Lord.

        Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

        in verse 29 we see that Jesus says that “after the tribulation of those days” those days is referring to everything previously said about the tribulation and in verse like I said “these things is referring to the signs mentioned in verses 29 to 33.

        I don’t believe the time of Jacobs trouble (the tribulation) is quite over yet but it is close to over in my view. Just as not all Israel was taken into captivity in Babylon in one go the curse is also not lifted from all Jewish descendants in one go. The 2520 year of the time of Jacob’s trouble didn’t start on the same day for all the Jews and it wont finish for all the decedents in the year 1948 but every year since that date more and more Jews are hearing the gospel and believing so one day right at the end they will say blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord.

        Mat 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

        I hope this helps you realize I am not listening to the teachings of men on this matter as I have only read one book on the subject of Historicity and got the general concept from that and then have done nothing but study the Bible to see if it was correct. That book was Light for the Last days by Mr Guinness which really didn’t teach the Bible at all and didn’t go verse by verse through Daniel, Matthew 24 or Revelation or anything like that, it mainly talked about Prophetic cycles in scripture and the history of the Jewish people and there many tribulations over the last few thousand years.

        P.S

        The ESV is basically the American standard version repackaged so don’t bother wasting your money buying it you already have it. but as I’ve said in the post way above the NIV is even worse than the ESV as it changes cornerstone to capstone and Lucifer to Morning Star. This blog is worth reading on the subject:
        http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/niv_exposed.htm

        God Bless

      11. Good Soldier
        Thank you for your reply.
        You definitely gave me some things to consider.
        One issue that seems to always get overlooked when I present
        the first verses of revelation. The words soon to take place and the time is near and at the end of the book when Jesus says the time is near. I looked those words up in the original greek and they mean exactly how their translated. Near means near or at arms length, soon means soon or at hand. So when I consider
        those verses I can only conclude that the prophecy of things to come were about to take place. The revelation of Jesus Christ
        mentions things that you have seen, (past) are now (present at time of writing)and soon to take place(near future) How do you see it. I also agree that to place a pause of more than 2000 years between the 69th week and 70th week is crazy. Its what the dispensationalist have done in order to make their understanding work. I can in no way accept that thinking. Their is one thing for sure brother, some day we will have clear understanding about these things.

  5. My last comment didn’t make it to the page.

    briefly I will try again, Revelation I believe was written before 70AD and was meant to be read by every generation of Christian and applied to there life. It has at least 3 levels of interpretation but probably 7. Preterist and futurist interpretations have many correct teachings but the lack Historicity to fill the gap and complete the understanding.

    Good Soldier

  6. Andrea
    Greetings once again
    I was excited to read that your bible has no commentary in it. I am encouraged by that. We don’t need the opinion of men to give us understanding. Ps. 119:97-100 says this Oh, how I love your law! I meditate on it all day long.98. Your commands make me wiser than my enemies, for they are ever with me.99. I have more insight than all my teachers, for I meditate on your statutes. 100.I have more understanding than the elders for I obey your precepts.
    These verses tell me that by loving the word ,meditating on it all day and obeying it can and will make me wiser and smarter than my enemies, instructors and teachers. Might not be a good thing for you though if your taking bible courses and your smarter than the professor, but who needs bible courses when you have the best teacher, the one who wrote it. Thats great Andrea keep it up

    1. …. if your taking bible courses and your smarter than the professor,…haha…better transfer (smile) …or better yet..Pray and ask The Lord what can I learn from this Teacher? What is it you want me to know Lord from this Teacher? You’d be surprised at just how much The Holy Spirit will reveal to you in that class with that Teacher (smile) …yum yum His Word is sweeter than Honey!

  7. My post with my original e-mail address have been blocked so I’m guessing Ivar is a dispensationalist. I get the hint I’ll leave you alone and stop posting on your blog.

    “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;”

    Peace Be With You

  8. I would like to make one comment about the Abomination that makes desolate, since it has been mentioned in this thread. Here’s the verse-
    When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
    (Mat 24:15 KJV)

    The holy place was in the tabernacle just before the holy of holies. The holy place had the lampstand and the table of shewbread on opposite sides of the room, so the abomination would be a man standing between those two. If he stands there then he casts his shadow upon the table of shewbread. He overshadows it. This is why the deception centers around the Eucharist and the false doctrine that says a man can change a wafer literally into Jesus. If you believe that, you are in trouble.

    1. Greetings Steve
      In the gospels we have three accounts of Jesus speaking about the abomination that causes desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet. Matthew’s account has Jesus quoting Daniels prophecy. “when you see standing in the holy place, the abomination that causes desolation….” Marks account “when you see the abomination that causes desolation standing where it does not belong..and Luke’s account in chapter 21 says this, “when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. Now I believe Matthew was remembering what Jesus said because he was among those that Jesus was speaking too. I am not sure about Mark. Luke on the other hand was probably not among those whom Jesus was talking too but received his information from eye witnesses. Luke’s book begins with these words, “Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word(Jesus) Therefore since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning
      it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you , most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know with certainty
      the things you have been taught. Having wrote all this my point is this, when Jesus said to his listeners “when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near”
      he was giving them a positive clue that the abomination that causes desolation was very near. We know that in that generation Jerusalem was surrounded by armies and was also
      taken by those armies and was burned and left desolate. Now, Was it the armies surrounding Jerusalem that was the abomination that causes desolation? Because they did desolate
      it. Or was it some person or object standing where he shouldn’t be. To find the answer you must go back to Daniels prophecy.
      Daniel chapter 9 vs 27 ….And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. That tells me that it was not a man but a thing. The armies surrounding Jerusalem were a prelude to the abomination of desolation that was very near to happen. Its interesting that Daniels prophecy was to be sealed until the end and now at this time in history
      Jesus has unsealed it. The prophecy of Revelation was not to be sealed because the time was near for them to occur.

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