Second Vatican state to be established in Jerusalem

“The Old City of Jerusalem will become a “special regime”. It will be an autonomous, self-governing entity. The Chief Administrator will have minimum reliance on the existing regimes and structures”.

On the left of the Pope the Commander Swiss guards Elmar Theodor Mäder to right personal bodyguard, the Pope Benedict, Domenico Giani is the Inspector General of the Corpo della Gendarmeria, the police and security force of Vatican City.
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This is a policy proposal from “Jerusalem Old City Initiative”. The proposal is a fruit of the “peace process”, and inter faith dialogues between Jews, Muslims, Catholics and claimed to be “Christians”.

People are not aware that the planning of a the seat of the last antichrist has reached its final stages. This work got a booster after the implementation of the Oslo “peace accord”.

The final push for the end game, started with the formation of The Council of the Religious Institutions of the Holy Land in 2005. This council has Muslims, Jews, Catholics and claimed to be “Christians” in its governing body.

When you read their statement of faith, you are introduced to the final One World Religion. They try to tell us that all faiths leads to the same god. Now they plan the arrival of their leader.

Statement of faith:

“As religious leaders of different faiths, who share the conviction in the one Creator, Lord of the Universe; we believe that the essence of religion is to worship G-d and respect the life and dignity of all human beings, regardless of religion, nationality and gender”.

This is the councils website:

Did you know that both The Chief Rabbinate of Israel and the The Islamic Sharia Courts of the PA is supporting this Norwegian proposed “inter faith initiative” in Jerusalem?

Lutheran priest Trond Bakkevig

And the head of this council is a Norwegian Lutheran priest, Mr. Trond Bakkevig. He is supported by the Church of Norway, and the World Council of Churches.

And when the final “peace deal” almost went through in Annapolis in November 2007, The Religious interfaith Council was getting ready to party in the Norwegian Embassy in Washington.

To get the Old City of Jerusalem ready for a “special regime” to come, The “peace makers” have formed an International work shop called “Jerusalem Old City Initiative”. This initiative is sponsored by the mainly protestant Christian republic of Canada. Their head office is at The University of Windsor in Ontario, Canada.

The website of “Jerusalem Old City Initiative”.

Members of the Council of Religious Institutions in the Holy Land at the Norwegian ambassador's residence in Washington DC. They met prior to peace talks in Annapolis.

When you go through this web-site, reading strategic documents, reports and plans, you will be stunned by what they have suggested.

It is a copy-cat plan of the foundation of the Vatican statehood in 1929.

And the ideas of how to rule this Old City statehood in Jerusalem, seems to be collected from the governance of the present Papal system.

The final plan will be presented to the government of Israel as an offer, they simply “have to” accept.

The new statehood in Eastern Jerusalem will have a “Chief administrator” who govern a “special regime”. His powers will be  similar to the Pope of Rome.

Please take a closer look at their web-sites.

Below are some of the suggestions from Jerusalem Old City initiative.

The Chief Administrator will be lifted above the laws. He will have his own statehood, and his inhabitants will be a closed circle of faithful servants. From this seat, He can practice his lawlessness.

These suggestions are found in the summaries of the executive reports:

1. An autonomous bureaucracy

2. To have its own inhabitants.

3. A robust security force.

4. A Council, a partly democratically elected body with power of veto over actions of the Administrator.

5. Old City as a single unit under a single administrator, having executive authority.

6. Agreement between the parties, with two national capitals, Al Quds and Yerushalayim.

7. A single Old City Police service to be established.

This is an image, copied from Jerusalem Old City initiative website.

This is the text found in one of the strategic document on this web site.

Key Characteristics and Functions of the Special Regime

The proposed special regime, headed by a Chief Administrator, would be responsible for the efficient and equitable management and governance of the Old City, including ensuring the sanctity of and access to the Old City’s Holy Sites.

To meet these responsibilities, the special regime would require an empowered autonomous bureaucracy — one whose leadership has the confidence of both Israel and Palestine and one that is vested with both the authority and the capacity to administer, manage, and police specific aspects of the Old City and its inhabitants.

A key function of the Special Regime this regime would be to ensure equity, law, and order. Security will be the test of any peace agreement: if order in the Old City breaks down, any Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement itself will be at risk.

Thus, the Old City Special Regime would require a robust security force, with the capacity both to deliver even-handed law enforcement and justice and to confront successfully large-scale security threats, including potential efforts by extremists from the various camps seeking to undermine an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement.

Lets take a look at a photo feature on what a second Vatican statehood in Jerusalem might look like:

First the Old City security force, as a model from the Vatican City.

The Chief Administrator in the Old City will need to have proper security around him.
Like in the Vatican, security officers needs to scan people entering the Zone.
The Watchmen needs to have proper guns, like this assault rifles available for the Swiss guards in the Vatican.
Its not enough with a few men. Like the Swiss guard in the Vatican, there has to be a proper regiment.
And when the noblemen and freemasons enter the Zone, they need to feel secure. In the center, US President Obama.



To met the Chief Administrators in the Vatican, you need to get your belongings scanned.
The powerful head of the Vatican state greet his police force on certain occasions.
The Pope visited the Old city in Jerusalem in May 2009, to inspect the proper facilities for a head office. He also met his inter faith colleagues.

Catechism (doctrines) of the Catholic Church

841 The Church’s relationship with the Muslims.

The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”


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    1. Dear Cantueso.


      These are the implications:

      Daniel 11:36 (New International Version)

      The King Who Exalts Himself
      36 “The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place.

      Within evangelical Christendom, we use to say that this King ruling in Jerusalem, is the last anti-Christ.

    2. I thing that the real intention of all concern is to take Jerusalem from Israel and later on to pass it to the Arabs for political control on the city and leave the Church with much freedom and independence, not ruled by the common state rules. Sure Israel will keep hers legal control over the whole city, and leave the freedom of religios alive as it is today.

      1. Certainly the idea is to take Jerusalem from Israeli control; I do not see your corollary that the Church (or for that matter, Islam) will be allowed “much freedom and independence, not ruled by the common state rules.” The whole point of this is to establish a separate, secular State ruled by the UN, and Israel would by no means keep legal control over the whole city, as you state. That is very much akin to what prevailed in Palestine during the postwar period, and that did not end well–it ended in war, first guerrilla, then civil, and only when it was certain that Israeli forces were winning was the UN willing to broker what eventually resulted in the State of Israel.

  1. Right under our noses and in plain sight but the people are unaware of the danger that lurks. Paying attention to WHAT is going on around us but not really understanding the significant importance until the word of God is applied. Now the plane takes shape and we are watching last days prophecies unfold with stark detail.
    Now the stage is set for the anti-christ to appear. amazing how Mr O just happens to be right in the middle of it.

  2. Thank you for this email,it is god to read tyhe prophecies of the last days whic I believe we are living in,I believe the Rapture is IMMINENT

    1. Fools! There is no rapture. If God came and raptured all his elect out, who stands to help the rest of God’s children (who he loves btw), to spread the word not to be deceived. Even his disciples in the Bible has to face persecution. You do not think he has disciples here spreading his word now? That’s why I call all who believe in the Rapture fools! Don’t be deceived when the anti-christ proclaims to be God and snaps his finger which causes fire to come down from heaven. Then everyone will be awed thinking he’s come to rapture them away, caught up in the clouds! However, they are being blinding from the truth. Remember, I told you these things. Do not be deceived! Does this sound familiar? However, God shortened the days because if he didn’t even his elect would be deceived. Do you see, their still here! This is why he has to place the seal in their foreheads which is the truth in your mind before the antichrist tries to grab his children from him. YE HE HATH EARS, LET THEM HEAR!

      1. “However, God shortened the days because if he didn’t even his elect would be deceived”.

        This is a lie.

        Matthew 24:24
        For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

        As you can see, the elect can not be deceived for it is impossible. Where did you come up with your man-made theory about the days being shortened?

    2. Paul Porter, Please take note, that there will be no rapture until the Messiah returns. He returns immediately after the tribulation, which is 3.5 years in duration. (matt 24:29-31)
      The keys to understand this are by reading the bible on your own, without man’s ideas spoiling the truth. Pray about what you want to know but you have to pick up the book or get some audio bible rolling — Yahshua said, many will come in his name, which means to come and say He sent me… and will DECEIVE MANY.
      Straight is the gate that leads to life, and there be FEW that find it. Many shall follow their destructive ways and ignore the warnings of what is to come.
      Yahshua said, Blessed are they that HEAR the WORD of GOD and do it. In Hebrew this is called SHEMA – which means to hear and obey.
      So, blessed are they that hear and obey what the HOLY SPIRIT is speaking unto His people.
      My people shall hear my voice and shall follow me.
      Repent means to turn from the ways that are contrary to the MOST HIGH, YHVH.
      Blessed is the name of YHVH forever!!!

  3. I would like you show the use the Second Vatican State Official government website to verify your information on a Second Vatican State and Treaty for the means of Temporal State. We proof (articles, treaties, ect)…..not a bunch of hear say!

    1. Larry, I was just browsing thru all the comments but couldn’t help responding to yours. Perhaps when you read the following article you might want to think a little more deeper:

      Some highlights of the article:
      ~~~~The institution of “The Vatican” is not understood by Israelis and Jews. The conventional wisdom you get from the spokespersons in Israeli government ministries and the conventional Israeli media is “both sides have great intentions to do good” and that’s about it. When it comes to Israel’s bi-lateral affairs, nothing much gets investigated by the Israeli media. Thus a secret deal could be done between the Vatican and the State of Israel and nobody in Israel would ever find out about it.
      ~~~~In fact, that is exactly what happened.
      This essay will provide the background to that deal, as well as what the Vatican’s intentions are regarding Israel and The Old City Of Jerusalem. It will reveal which Israeli politicians made certain commitments to The Vatican regarding the issue of sovereignty in the Old City of Jerusalem. These negotiations and meetings were all carried out in secret. During this time period, 1992-l995, the Oslo Accords was what got all the public’s attention. Oslo was like “throwing sand in the eyes” of the public. The Vatican is where the real action was happening. Oslo seemed to be just the cover story. A “red herring”, if you will.
      ~~~~First, you have to realize that for centuries The Vatican has attempted to obtain control of Jerusalem, which started with the Crusades. For them to convince the world that the Messiah they put on the world’s stage is going to be accepted as genuine, they need to perform this play in the Old City. The story of this production is that this “Messiah” will merge the three monotheistic religions, usher in peace and harmony in the world, and solve the Middle East conflict. The location for this “production” will be in none other than the Old City of Jerusalem.
      ~~~~This so-called “Messiah” that will be proclaimed, will be a false one and it will insist that by having a “world government” (i.e., the United Nations) the world peace and harmony will be ushered in. This will be a lie, and a fraud, but never mind. In our world, reality isn’t important. Public perceptions are. The end result is the stripping of Israel’s sovereignty as an independent nation giving way to a “regional bloc of nations” in the Middle East. Israel will be pressured to accede to these demands by all world bodies and the superpowers on the claim that “this is the only way to solve the Middle East conflict). In order to the Jews to go along they will convince them that with the “Messiah” having appeared for the Jews, it is time to start rebuilding the Third Temple- what they call “Solomon’s Temple”. This version of events is widely available through a simple search on the Internet as there are many Christian groups and organizations (the majority of which who are very pro-Israel) who don’t buy into these beliefs and thus are against them. I didn’t come up with the theory- I am just bringing it to the attention of the Israeli public.
      ~~~~Make no mistake about it. The Old City of Jerusalem, as well as most of the eastern half of the city, is what The Vatican is after.
      ~~~~Because controlling the entire Old City of Jerusalem (and not just Church properties) and being able to build whatever they want on Mount Zion is critical for the program they have planned to put into play in our capital city……… The deal that it has signed with Israel via Yossi Beilin and Shimon Peres (in secret and without the approval of the Knesset) gives The Church not only extraterritorial status to their properties (which is what the bi-lateral agreement the Israeli government signed with the Vatican on December 30th, 1993, put in law) but of control over the entire city as “custodians” under UN presence. In this way the Jews will give up control over the Old City. To the Vatican the Israeli people would have a problem with. To the UN, they would say, “we had no choice”……. Read the rest here:

      ~~~~So now you should know what the Vatican is up to.

  4. Ivar, thank you for this excellent article. I am very interested to learn more about your views on Daniel 11:36. Do you have an article explaining your views on this in more detail?

    >> These are the implications:
    Daniel 11:36 (New International Version)
    The King Who Exalts Himself
    36 “The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place.

    >>Within evangelical Christendom, we use to say that this King ruling in Jerusalem, is the last anti-Christ.

  5. som tur är så vet vi hur slutet kommer bli. Rom har försökt att besegra Jesus förr. Men se det gick inte. Är detta början på andra försöket? Ja, kanske

  6. Everyone who signed the Charta eumenica, has signed a contract with the antichrist. Very uncomfortable, I must say
    Regards Ulf Ekman, Sten Gunnar Hedin Hökmark and all others who have written on. I wonder if they understand what they did?

  7. Could it maybe that the man in the middle is the false prophet?…..a counterfeit of John the baptist……Amazing how many so-called Christians are so busy serving mammon, there eyes have been blinded…….

    1. Dear Den.


      I never felt that the Pope was walking in the spirit of John the Baptists. If his falsehood had been limited to this deception, a billion souls could get saved. The Pope claims to be “god”. He calls him self “Holy Father”, and everyone have to address him as “His holiness”. Did John the Baptist ever do that?

      1. Wrong Den,
        The Pope never ever claimed to be “God”. Your posts seem somewhat jaded and incorrect in factual reporting.

      2. Dear inri

        Shalom, and love in Jesus.

        You wrote:

        The Pope never ever claimed to be “God”

        My rely:

        What you claim is based on an opinion. Whom you feel God of the Bible should be.

        The Bible say God is “Holy Father” and “infailable”. The Pope truly equalize him self with God. Since no man is infalible, there is obviously two God’s of Catholicism. The Pope worship in Catholicism is a fact. Catholic bow before statues of dead Popes, and pray to them. Exodus 20:4 says only God deserves such reverence. So when Catholcis bow before the Pope, He takes the place of God. In fact, the Pontif is elevated above God, since he can set the Word of God aside and nulify it.

  8. WOW!! The head of the Vatican sure has a well trained police force and guards everywhere … while …

    Yeshua had only 12 friends or companions for Himself and their only weapon (but a powerful weapon) was the WORD of YEHOVAH the TORAH. Blessed be HIS HOLY NAME YESHUA HAMASHYIACH…. may HE come soon… Amein

  9. Dear Ivar,

    Thank you for continuing to expose the Pope as the final Antichrist. This is extremely important as there is so much confusion and deception regarding this topic. The Catholic church should not be viewed as “just a little confused” or “just another cult”. The truth is, IT IS THE MOST DANGEROUS AND EVIL RELIGIOUS SYSTEM THAT EVER EXISTED!

    The mere thought of that vile pope even stepping foot in Jerusalem makes me furious. Jesus said Jerusalem was HIS CITY and HIS DWELLING PLACE — NOT SATANS!

    Jesus further warned us about future events that would involve the blasphemous horror called the Catholic church in the book of Revelation. He reveals to us who the Antichrist Beast is (Pope) and what the “Mark of the Beast” is (Catholic Worship). Sadly, only a small percentage of the population are heeding the warning. This loathsome, deceptive, abomination of a “church” ruling under the power of satan, is rapidly accomplishing its goals of taking billions of souls to hell. And it will continue to deceive many throughout the tribulation — until Jesus returns and completely destroys it. (Hallelujah!)

    Revelation 13 tells us that the first Beast is the Catholic Church who will enforce “The Mark of the Beast.”

    “And they worshipped the dragon (Satan) which gave power unto the beast (Pope) and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.”

    The Papal system is the little horn of Daniel 7, which is synonymous with the Antichrist Beast power of Revelation 13. (Revelation 17 – Mystery Babylon – also reveals who antichrist is.)

    “So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.”

    The fact that the Catholic church changed the Fourth Commandment to worship on Sunday instead of Saturday shows that satan has attempted to replaced God’s true day of worship with a lie from the darkest pit of hell. Most people just gloss over this and say that the Sabbath is not a “moral” law and it is “legalism” to keep it. The truth is that The Ten Commandments are still the Ten Commandments and the Catholic church ruled by satan thinks it is above God’s laws. God said:

    “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates: For six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.”


    Flee from the Roman Catholic church! Flee from approving of it! Flee from supporting it! Flee from being lukewarm about how you feel about it! Flee form thinking it is acceptable! Warn everyone you know! WORSHIP ONLY GOD! Do not give allegiance to this church! Do no worship in this church! Do not worship in a “building” on Sunday! Even unto death, have nothing to do with this blasphemous Beast system!

    “And I heard another voice from heaven saying, ‘Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities'” (Rev. 18:4,5).

    “And look, here comes a chariot of men with a pair of horsemen! And he answered and said, ‘Babylon is fallen, is fallen! And all the carved images of her gods He has broken to the ground'” (Isaiah 21:9).

    “And on her forehead a name was written: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH” (Rev. 17:5).

    Read More About The Mark of the Beast:

      1. JimmieKrackKorn,

        No, Ellen G White is a false prophet and a liar from the pit of hell as is the entire SDA false “church”.

        If you are referring to the link I posted, I found the article on the mark of the beast interesting but did not thoroughly check out the entire site or the beliefs of the writer.

        My belief that the Vatican and the pope will play a huge part in the end times has NOTHING to do with anything Ellen White or anything the SDA teach.

        If it turns out that the link to that website does support the SDA church, I would kindly ask Ivar to delete it as I hate error, lies, and all deception — especially those coming from the Roman Catholic church.

    1. Correct

      Ellen G. White was no prophet. Further, she, her husband and son(at least) were into Masonry.

      It’s now apparent that Ellen G. Witch had “convenient” visions for the purpose of furthering “her vision” for “her church”

      80% of her “writings” were confirmed plagiarisms

      More evidence is abundant. Jesuits walk the halls of SDA institutions with impunity

      I was raised SDA. Trust me, I know.

      1. Dan,
        Praise the Lord for showing you the truth. I was raised under the Pope and know how hard it is to unlearn that which has been taught to you from childhood. Yet, nothing is impossible with our LORD Jesus the Christ. AMEN

    2. I am a Catholic, and I love my religion and my faith in The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost. I love the Blessed Mother for she is the mother of our Lord Jesus Christ. The Lord will clarify all in due time.


  10. Dear Ken,

    What is the purpose of the organization? Tar and pitchforks? Is it an expose?

    I also see the truth of who she is. Lets be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.

    I have many Catholic family and friends. My job is to expose what the Vatican is saying and doing, and then pray and witness Jesus.

    Prayer being the most important. We can yap until the cows come home, but the battle is in the spiritual realm, not physical. We can point out everything she does wrong, but if we do not battle in prayer, what does it accomplish?

    Every battle against antichrist is spiritual, not in the courts or in the picket line.

    1. Dear Sister, I agree with you wholeheartedly. But does that mean that all we are ever to do, is pray? What about Phinehas, the son of Eleazar the priest, who took action against the people who were fornicating at the door of the Tabernacle of Meeting? Yahweh said that he and his descendants would be blessed forever, because while Moshe and Aharon were standing there praying, Phinehas took action.

    2. Hi Sueliz,

      What organization? Occupy Vatican is simply an information page. It’s purpose is posted under info – in love, to call people out of Babylon before God destroys it.

      Here are some excerpts:

      If you truly love your neighbor as yourself, you will be concerned not just for their physical well being, but also their spiritual well being – their soul, their eternal destiny, their salvation…

      Part of acting in love is to speak the truth in love, and the truth is that salvation is through Jesus Christ alone…

      Salvation does not come through Mary as Co-Redemptrix, nor the Sacraments of the Church, doing penance, prayers to Saints, worshiping relics or statues, confessing to a Priest, buying indulgences, ad nauseum…

      This page supports Biblical Christianity and traditional Protestant views. In particular, the Historicist Eschatology which reveals the Papacy as the anti-Christ system of Bible prophecy.

      It exposes the systemic vice, corruption, criminal activities, and heresies of the Vatican by researchers, journalists, and theologians. Not as an expression of hate, but out of love for the deceived and abused.

      Galatians 4:16 Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth?

      1. Blessings to you brother.

        The name threw me.

        Please explain to me your views on Operation Wall Street. On the site it had “like” under it.

    3. Hi Sueliz,

      Why have you assumed that I am not a man of prayer? Can one not be a man of action, and of faith, and not just prayer?

      Were not all the great heroes of faith men of action and not just prayer?

      Hebrews 11 33-34…who through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions, quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies.

      I have even written a short article on the virtues and power of prayer, and I find it somewhat offensive that you would make such an assumption.

      I also have many Catholic family and friends, which is why I do everything I can to awaken them from the sleep of deception. I expose the wolves in Sheep’s clothing that prey upon them, and their children.

      I also pray for them and allow my faith to work in love, since faith without works is dead.

      Most of my time is spent in online Ministry, running a network for Gospel artists and promoting charities. Confronting the heresies and evils of of Rome, is just one small part of what I do.

      Prayer is our most powerful weapon, and the battle is Spiritual, but as millions of martyrs including Christ and the apostles can testify, and as the Bible record clearly shows – spiritual battles have a way of spilling over into the physical realm.

      In fact, in Rev. 17-18 God’s judgement against Rome will be quite physical and the kings of the earth, and the people, will be involved.

    4. Hi Sueliz,

      My thoughts on the Occupy movement:

      Why does the occupy movement wrestle with the body of the snake, when they can simply crush it’s head?

      The Catholic church is the biggest financial power, wealth accumulator and property owner in existence. She is a greater possessor of material riches than any other single institution, corporation, bank, giant trust, government or state of the whole globe. — “The Vatican Billions” Avro Manhattan

      For a comprehensive article linked to many resources detailing the Vatican’s crimes against humanity, please read this:

      Occupy Vatican – Crimes against Humanity (Rev. 17-18)

  11. Dear Norman,

    Shalom. Love and grace in Jesus.

    My concern for this website, is the “like” for Operation Wall Street. This movement is really a promotion of world wide socialism. There is also a lot of anti-Jewish sentiment in this movement because of the bankers. I am weary of “movements” .
    Our defense and shield is Jesus. Our citizenship is heaven.

    I guess we do our part here at News That Matters, exposing lies and proclaiming the Gospel.

    Maybe you can give me some info. What else does this group do? Picket the Vatican? Do you know? Thanks for any information Norman.

    1. I understand the thought that our citizenship is in heaven. I don’t want to get too far afield on Ivar’s site (and I think he does a great job), but if you want to know more about “Two House” theory and/or the “Hebrew Roots Movement,” you can visit our site, at
      There is a line of thought that says the Christians are the lost ten tribes of Israel, and will one day be called back to the nation of Israel, because of their faith in the Messiah. This is also why the apostles write to the lost tribes (e.g., James 1:1, Romans 9-11, etc.).

      1. Dear Norman Wills

        Sabbath Shalom.

        You wrote:

        “Hebrew Roots Movement,”…

        My reply:

        I am not comfortable with this movement. Evangelical Friends of Israel can also fall into certain errors. The state of Israel is not the Kingdom of Heaven. It has never been, and will never be. The Jewish people are sinners like the rest of us. Some people elevate Israel, and make her an idol.

        In the Christian Zionist camp, there are anti-Christian elements. I like to call them preachers of New Judaism. They refuse to accept the doctrine of Faith alone: Man shall live my faith alone, in Yeshua alone, separated from works or deeds.

        I once dined with a man claiming to be a Messianic Rabbi. He explained to a secular Jewish friend of mine: “You have to come back to the Torah”. I rebuked this rabbi, and said: ” Most secular Jews are sick and tiered of such messages. You better tell them the gospel, that the Messiah has paid for their sins.

        The Messiah was crucified. The Messiah is risen. The Messiah will return. Without faith in the Messiah you will face judgment. This is the gospel. This is the good news.

        The rabbi called my message antisemitic, literally cursed me, and left.

      2. Dear Ivar,
        I love and respect you as a brother in the faith. I also realize that this is your website, and I don’t want to say anything that will upset you, as I value your posts, and want to continue receiving them. But you say I am rejecting the divinity of the Messiah unless I agree with your two doctrinal points above. I do not reject Yeshua’s divinity at all, but I believe you are only stating one side of the coin. I hope you will not delete me from your website, or your news list.

      3. Dear Norman Willis


        This site is a site for debate. Not dictatorship. I do spam people for filthy language, or Jew-hate.

        The divinity of Jesus is an important topic. Jesus came from Heaven. He is the creator, who came to Earth and took form of a man. Elohim Israel is plural. Three in One. Still One God. Always in agreement.

        We have to separate justification by faith alone, from the doctrine of sanctification, or the walk in holiness.

        For a Jew, it is holiness to live in a tent in Jerusalem, during Sukkot. For a man who live in Northern Norway this is not demanded to become holy. There might be a meter of snow outside his door in October.

        The Hebrew Root movement has a tendency to highlight Jewishness, as something more noble than being of any other community on Earth. That gentiles shall come and settle in Israel before the return of the Messiah, is not demanded. Nor is it desirable. Gentile believers in the Messiah is called to proclaim the gospel to their own people. The gospel shall be proclaimed in all nations, to every man under the sun. Than the end shall come.

      4. Dear Norman Willis

        Sabbath Shalom (Peace on the day of rest).

        You wrote:

        I don’t want to upset Ivar in any way, but I believe this is a complex issue….

        My reply:

        Please challenge me. If I get upset, I do have an attitude problem.

      5. Dear Ivar,
        Thank you so much for your refreshing and brotherly attitude!
        If you enjoy good Scriptural challenges (as all good brothers do), please consider that Yeshua said not to think that the Law and the Prophets were abolished. Rather, He said that nothing at all could pass from them as long as heaven and earth still exist (Matthew 5:17-19). Well, these prophecies foretell the return of the lost ten tribes of the House of Israel (aka the House of Ephraim).
        If Yahweh says that the lost ten tribes of the house of Israel/Ephraim will come some day, and if Yeshua said He was not sent on His first trip, but to these lost ten tribes (Matthew 15:24), and if James and Peter both write to these lost tribes who are in the Dispersion (James 1:1, 1 Peter 1:1), then are not those who follow Yeshua of these lost ten tribes?
        And would that not also explain why the gates of the New Jerusalem are only for the lost ten tribes (rather than for Catholics, Baptists, Independent Christians, etc.)?
        I am trying to do many things, but I will try to check email as I can. May Yahweh bless you and your family.

    2. Hi Sueliz,

      I can’t speak for the “Occupy” movement. I can’t even speak for the “Occupy Vatican” movement since there are several sites with the same name but different approaches.

      To dislike a movement because of some elements would be akin to disliking Jews because some are corrupt bankers, or disliking Christians because of what pedophile Priests do.

      The occupy movement is a predictable reaction to financial tyranny, but because of deception, it is thus far been primarily focused on the wrong target.

      This is a last days movement predicted by prophecy. Notice that James says this would happen in the last days.

      James 5 1-5 Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming upon you. Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. Look! The wages you failed to pay the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered innocent men, who were not opposing you.

      Rome, is at the “top of the food chain” when it comes to International monetary corruption. It’s not just through religion and politics, but through it’s vast wealth and secret societies, that it rules. It controls the merchants of the earth, who grow fat from her favors. They will weep and be terrified when Rome is destroyed by God.

      Rev. 18 15-18 “They will say, ‘The fruit you longed for is gone from you. All your riches and splendor have vanished, never to be recovered.’ The merchants who sold these things and gained their wealth from her will stand far off, terrified at her torment. They will weep and mourn and cry out:

      1. My humble opinion: Rome was infiltrated by Judeo-Masonry many hundreds of years ago. It’s “mission” is no longer to save souls–it’s mission appears to be to run a one-world religion department for the one-world government.

  12. I should just add that these theories explain otherwise unexplicable phenomena, such as why the Christians have gone from being basically hostile to Jews, to the Jew-loving behavior that we see here on Ivar’s site, and others.

  13. Ken,

    I am not assuming that. Please forgive me if I seemed to imply. My statements were generalizations I should have holded until I knew more. Would you kindly tell me your views on Operation Wall St?

    I’m curious about the “liking” of all the Occupation Wall St. cities, the liking of Amnesty International, ect.

  14. Dear Norman and Ivar,

    I know a Jewish couple in my church. They have warned us to be very careful in looking at Messianic Congregations and Jewish movements, stating many of these groups to not proclaim Jesus as Lord. After doing some digging in my area, I have found this to be true. I’m sure not all of them are like that. Being that the gentleman I speak of grew up as a Rabbinic Jew, I believe him. His parents never accepted him after he decided to follow Jesus.

    1. Dear Sue.


      You have to be pretty sure, that your are in a congregation that believe in the Trinity. Oneness Pentecostals do not believe that Jesus is God, The second person, equally the creator as His Father. In the Messianic Jewish camp, there are people who teach that Yeshua is not eternal God. There are different sects, that teach a lot of strange stuff.

      There are two questions you need to ask your pastor or Rabbi:

      1. Is man saved by faith alone, in Yeshua (Jesus) alone, separated from works of deeds.

      2. Is Yeshua (Jesus) equally God as Father God in Heaven.

      If these two questions are not answered with a ‘Yes”, it does not matter if you are a Roman Catholic, a Messianic Jew or whatever. You reject the divinity of the Messiah.

      1. Therefore, I can engage in all manner of corrupt, heinous and vile activity and never repent of such deeds and so long as I say, at some point in my wretched life, “Jesus, Jesus, I believe in Thee as Father in heaven and my savior” I am destined to see the Beatific vision and live eternally with the Father in heaven?
        Therefore, the Father and Jesus and the Spirit can be mocked with impugnity?

    2. I agree with Ivar that there are a lot of strange teachings out there. I believe it is important for each person to study the Scriptures out for himself, and never take a pastor’s word for anything. Yahweh’s word must win out over man’s word, each and every time.
      I don’t want to upset Ivar in any way, but I believe this is a complex issue. My study is at:
      I do not want to upset Ivar in any way on his own site, so I am going to try to back out now. And thank you, Ivar, for your patience and tolerance.

  15. Dear Ivar, Thank you for letting me know that you encourage debate. I have limited time, but will try to make my case briefly.
    Salvation is by grace through faith, but it is not of our own doing. Yet, once we are saved, we are not allowed to do whatever we choose. Anyone who gets baptized does so because they read that Yeshua said it is fitting for all righteousness, and they want to please Him. In the same way, we keep the Ten Commandments, and other commandments as well.
    I apologize if the Messianic rabbi cursed you. That was not right. He will have to answer for that. I hope we can all pray for him. But the Messiah Himself said not to think that the Law was abolished, and this was in His very first speech (in Matthew 5:17, in the Beatitudes). many people believe that because He said He came to fulfill part of the prophecies, that the Law is now abolished…but He said not to think that way. So why do we do that?
    You are correct that Yeshua and His Father are One. He says so, at John 10:30. But He also says that His Father is greater than Him (John 14:28). To say so does not make one deny Yeshua’s deity. I believe this is a complex issue, and I wrote a study on it, which I referenced in the above link.
    I believe you may find that yes, there are a whole lot of crackpots in the Hebrew Roots and the Two House movements, just like you find a lot of crackpots in each and every church, and also in independent Christianity. I don’t want to name any names (ha hah). And I also am learning and growing. Some things I believed ten years ago, I no longer believe. But when Yeshua said that He was not sent (on His first trip) but for the lost sheep of the House of Israel, one thing I was never taught in church was that “House of Israel” (aka the House of Ephraim) is a code name for the lost ten tribes, which Hosea says will come back to the land of Israel one day (because of their faith in the Messiah). I realize that this raises a lot of logical objections in the mind, and I apologize that I may not have time to answer all of them, as my plate runneth over (joke). But I believe that you love Yeshua and Yahweh very much, or you would not be doing such a good work.
    I apologize if I did not understand how to work your “reply” feature before. I am hurrying to get things done before the Sabbath (as Yeshua and the other apostles surely did). May Yahweh bless you and your family.

    1. Dear Norman Willis

      Sabbath Shalom.

      You wrote:

      But when Yeshua said that He was not sent (on His first trip) but for the lost sheep of the House of Israel, one thing I was never taught in church was that “House of Israel” (aka the House of Ephraim) is a code name for the lost ten tribes, which Hosea says will come back to the land of Israel one day (because of their faith in the Messiah).

      My reply:

      Please do not stress. We have hopefully more days on Earth, to debate this interesting topic.

      I agree that Jesus came for the lost sheep of Israel. The lost sheep of Israel returned to Zion in 1948. Very, very few of them recognized Yeshua as the Messiah. That is why God of the Bible says in the words of Ezekiel: “Be ASHAMED of your conduct, house of Israel”.

      God of the Bible would obviously not have said that, if all the Jews had turned to Yeshua before the homecoming. The Bible explains that the Jews will return in disbelief.

      Christians who have been deceived by Replacement theology miss this point. They believe the “true Jews” would returned to Zion, based on their Messianic faith and merits. That is why many Christian preachers up to 1948, believed that a rebirth of Israel was theological fiction and a practical impossibility.

      The return to Zion is not based on merits, but on the faithfulness of God. The rebirth of Israel has nothing to do with the spiritual condition of the Jewish people, but purely based on the holiness of God who is faithful to his promises to their forefathers.

      1. Dear Ivar,
        I appreciate your kindness. However, the term “House of Israel/Ephraim” refers to the northern ten tribes that were taken in the Assyrian Dispersion (1 Kings 11 and 12).
        In contrast, the “House of Judah” refers to the southern two tribes (Benjamin and Judah), and some say also the tribe of Levi. These were “the Jews” who were taken into the Babylonian captivity in the days of Nebuchadnezzar, and they were also “the Jews” who were under Roman oppression in Yeshua’s day. These are also “the Jews” who were restored in 1948. So the two terms are not synonymous, but different.
        Jeremiah 3 speaks of the time of the Ingathering, after the sonn-coming tribulation. Jeremiah 3:18 18 “In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given as an inheritance to your fathers.”
        So Yahweh does not consider them to be one in the same. Neither does Hosea. Or Shaul/Paul.

      2. Dear Norman Willis

        Sabbath Shalom.

        It is time for me to go to bed, but I would love to continue this debate tomorrow.

        I am not an expert in the whereabouts of the lost tribes of Israel. I was amazed when they found remnants of the half tribe of Manasse inside the state of Nagaland in India.

        But what I know, is that God of Israel known.

        I am quite convinced that the remnant of all the lost tribes of Israel, now is represented in the Jewish community inside the present state of Israel.

        I cried when I came to Jerusalem, and took the bus from Mevasseret Zion to the city center. What a BEAUTIFUL and COLORFUL gathering of the most amazing people I have ever seen. I praised my Lord God, for giving me a chance to experience this.

      3. Shabbat Shalom! I pray He will give you a good rest.
        I agree that we are to be called out of every tribe and nation and tongue, from every family, and every clan. Yeshua also says that many will come from east and west, and sit down in the kingdom of heaven, while the sons of the kingdom will be cast into the outer darkness (Matthew 8:11). Yahweh does not care what color our skin is, because He does not glory in flesh (but looks on our hearts instead).
        And He does promise that He will save a remnant of the Jews through the tribulation, and they will believe on our Messiah (Zecharian 12:10). But there will also be Christians and Jews who will come back to the land of Israel following the tribulation, who are not there now. That is what the Jeremiah 3:18 quote is talking about. And yet though the children of Israel be of the sand of the sea, which is neither numbered nor counted, yet only a remnant shall be saved.
        So the main problem with the Orthodox theories is not that these people are not of the house of Israel…because they probably are. But the only thing is that they do not represent all of the house of Israel (nor can they), because Yeshua said that He was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel…and this is also who the apostles write to.
        The prophecies in Hosea also talk about how the house of Israel would be brought back into the covenant, and Shaul/Paul refers to these things in Romans 9-11, telling the new converts that they are grafted into the nation of Israel. But this fine point of understanding was wiped out by the Roman Church at the Council of Nicea in 325 CE, when they made it illegal to think of oneself as an Israelite believer in Yeshua (as the apostles all did).
        I will be at our assembly tomorrow, but I will try to correspond, if Yahweh wills. May He greatly bless you and your family, and give you a wonderful and peaceful Sabbath!

  16. The Catholic Church is a joke. During WW2 when Hitler deciced to send Jews to the gas chambers he called on a young soldier in the Polish army who was also a talented chemist to devise a suitable gas to use. He was successful in producing this terrible gas. After the war he was called the most hated man in Poland. He pretended to be ashamed of himself and joined the Catholic Church. He eventually became a priest and quickly rose through the ranks. He is now in the Vatican with a new name. This name is Pope John Paul the second.

  17. Reblogged this on To the Assembly, with love…. and commented:
    Mystery, Babylon….. JERUSALEM, the book of Revelation with the Old Testament prophecy. Chris White’s excellent teaching on Mystery Babylon is available on his web site and on YouTube. The anti Christ will rule from Jerusalem, not Rome.

  18. Oh my! First I’ve seen of this report, but knew of the recent deal to put a ‘throne’ in the ‘Upper Room’ for the papacy…

    Things in Yerushlayim just get weirder and weirder!!

    Baruch haba beshem YHWH! Maranatha!


  19. Other commentors who say that the Pope is antichrist are missing the mark. The Catholic Church is the true original Christianity founded by Jesus Christ and vested with His promises. However, since 1958 when the last valid Pope Pius XII died, the prophecy of Our Lady of La Salette has come true. This prophecy which was approved by indisputably valid Popes said: “Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of Antichrist.” This came about because the Church was taken over by her historic enemies – Freemasonry which is behind the whole New World Order. After 1958 especially after the false Council Vatican II, the new invalid administration of the Church began to contradict what the Church had taught in the past and what the Bible teaches. One example of this is the above quote from the Vatican II “Catechism.” The Bible and the Church, for example, always taught that Muslims do not worship the true God of Abraham. “Who believes not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.” (Jn. 3: 36). “But though We or an angel from Heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema.” (Gal. 1: 8). Mahammad claimed that the angel Gabriel gave him the religion of Islam – another gospel. It was obviously a devil not an angel. The prayer of Pope Leo XIII consecrating the human race to the Sacred Heart of Jesus Christ summed up the true teaching of the Church: “… Be Thou king of all those who are still involved in the darkness of idolatry or of Islamism, and refuse not to draw them all into the light and kingdom of God.” The Popes until 1958 always taught the truth of the Gospel. It is the apparent Popes after 1958 that taught heresy. Catholic dogma teaches that if a valid Pope falls into heresy that he falls out of the Church and his see and office become vacant: see: “Cum ex Apostolatus Officio.” If he was a heretic when he was elected then his election is null and void. An invalid Pope is called an Antipope. The Church lists 42 Antipopes in her history since the time of Christ. The Book of Revelation does not say that the seat of Antichrist is in Jerusalem. St. Paul’s letter to the Thessalonians suggests that the seat of antichrist will be in Rome: “Who opposeth, and is lifted up above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, so that he sitteth in the Temple of God shewing himself as if he were God.” (2 Thess. 2: 4). The Temple of God is the Catholic Church and Paul VI boasted of the Churches new humanism in Vatican II, and what is humanism but the religion of man made God confronting the religion of God made man, as this same apostate Antipope said. True Pope Pius X in 1903 said that humanism was the distinguishing mark of Antichrist.

  20. Praise God He allows everyone to come to their own conclusions based on conscience. We must be humble and study to see if our beliefs are in harmony with the Word. Jesus loves every person and does not want anyone to be lost, but sadly, the majority will be deceived at the end when Papal Rome, empowered by the United States of America, introduces a Sunday Law that will be accepted by the world governments. All who obey, even if they believe Sunday is the day of worship, will receive the wrath of God. At this moment, it seems strange to Sunday-keepers, and that is why we need to study the Word. A book called ‘National Sunday Law’ by Jan Marcussion explains the subject briefly and clearly, and I recommend reading it. (Write for a free copy) True Christians will be persecuted for refusing to obey, and many will be martyred. God’s remnant people of all demoninations won’t be raptured away; they must stand by faith in Jesus Christ, and ‘love not their lives unto the death’. May all who read these words come to a knowledge of the truth, and live surrendered live in Jesus until He returns in power and glory.

  21. May I highly recommend that you all purchase the book “PETRUS ROMANUS…The FINAL Pope is Here” by
    Thomas Horn & Chris Putnam. This well-documented
    tome is a real eye opener regarding the Papacy and the coming New World (satanic) Order.

  22. … and what is happening now? The Catholic Church is crumbling before the satanic men? My Holly Spirit guide Cardinals when the election of new Pope is happening and may new Pope be strong and not affraid of fight with anything any anyone who has any connections with satan and masoneria.

    1. Danuta,

      The catholic church will crumble for it’s idolatry and lies. That you support such a church is worrisome. For the Word of God tells us how to live, and there is too much evidence of the catholic church going against Jesus.

      Now is the right time for you to walk away from idols, praising dead flesh, and praying to a sinner like the pope, and listen only to the Jesus Christ.

      Revelation 9:20-21 The rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands nor give up worshiping demons and idols of gold and silver and bronze and stone and wood, which cannot see or hear or walk, nor did they repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts.


  23. “God does not change, Great Earthquake resurrection occurred and will occur at dawn on the first day of the week, after the Sabbath or Shabbath, on the feast of Passover or Feast of Passover, we must be Warned Brothers”

    Oh my dear brethren, when the Lord Jesus Christ was crucified and died on the cross of Calvary, there was a great earthquake in Jerusalem and this happened on a Friday, before the Sabbath or Shabbath in Hebrew Feast of Passover or Easter Hebrew (Matthew Chapter 27, Verse 51 to 54) and when he raised was a great earthquake, and this occurred after the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Bone Easter Day, (Matthew 28 verses 1 to 10) .

    Now in 2013 The Hebrew Passover Festival is celebrated on Sunday March 24 through Tuesday April 2, AD 2013. Holy Week begins on Palm Sunday Day March 24, AD 2013 and ends or culminates with Easter Day, Sunday March 31, AD 2013.

    “The powerful right hand of the Lord Jesus will destroy and tear down and collapse of the mosque of Omar or the abomination that maketh desolate, with the Great Global Earthquake Easter and this will happen in the time of Pesach or Passover, before the Great Tribulation and after this mega-earthquake Global, Israel lifted the Third Temple, Halelu-Yah ”

    Oh Glory to God here are the Wonders of God being manifested today Siglo XXI, 2013, what a glorious time we lived, the third stage God himself made Power, God will stand by His people Israel and will make manifest the great earthquake and Global World Easter, which will destroy large cities and abominations of the earth, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, California, London, Paris, Jerusalem, etc.. and also destroy the Mosque of Omar or abomination that maketh desolate, for Israel to lift the Third Temple, Oh Glory to God, Glory to God, Glory to God, Halelu-yah.

    “Raise your flag in Zion, Assemble yourselves, do not stop, for I will bring evil from the north, and great destruction.”

    It is written book of Jeremiah, Chapter 4, Verse 6 to 9. Reina Valera 1602 and 1909.
    Set up a standard 4:6 in Zion, Assemble yourselves, do not stop, for I will bring evil from the north, and great destruction.
    4:7 The lion up from his thicket, and a destroyer of nations has departed; Salido has of his place to make your land desolate, your cities will be wasted without inhabitant.
    4:8 For this gird you with sackcloth, lament and howl: for the LORD’s anger has not turned away from us.
    4:9 And in that day, saith the Lord, that will melt the heart of the king, and the hearts of men, and the priests shall be astonished, and the prophets shall wonder.

    “And in that day, saith the Lord God, I will melt the heart of the King, and the heart of the princes, and the priests shall be astonished, and the prophets shall wonder”

    Glory to God My precious brothers in Christ Jesus, because this is the time when the heart of these same kings, princes and presidents of the United Nations shall fail, because they made an agreement against Yisrael, because they made an agreement against Glorious Mighty Word of God, because they took a contrary agreement decreed by God, because they took an agreement against the laws and commandments of God, (Abortion, Divorce, Gay Civil Union, Sexual discrimination laws, etc.)

    Moreover all priests, bishops, pastors and denominational Religious Society Sodomite This New Century XXI, shall be astonished, will be admired, terrified and stunned by the great events that were unleashed on Earth, they will be scared and frightened by the Development of these great events written and recorded in Scripture, the Torah and the Bible Version 1602 and 1909, by his servants the Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors and Doctors of the glorious and powerful Word of God, Halelu-yah.

    In Exchange Prophets will marvel, The Apostolic and Prophetic People XXI Century will marvel over the compliance of the whole Word of God, brought by his servants the prophets, who were ordained and predestined by God before the ages and ages and Before World Foundation, Glory to God Halelu-yah.

    The Lord Jesus Christ our God, get up, bless, keep, defend and fight for Always by Israel, and Israel means: He who fights or governs with God, the children of God are kings, priests and soldiers of Christ, therefore We rule and fought with God and the victory is ours, Halelu-yah.

    “And shall shine as the brightness of the firmament, and those who lead the crowd, like the stars forever and ever”

    It is written book of Daniel, chapter 12, verses 7 to 13. Reina Valera 1909.
    12:1 And at that time Michael, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation: more at that time your people-everyone that shall be found written in the book.
    12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
    12:3 And shall shine as the brightness of the firmament, and they that turn many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever.
    12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book until the time of the end: many shall run, and knowledge shall be increased.
    12:5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other from the other side of the bank of the river.
    12:6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, How long shall be the end of these wonders?
    12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times and half. And when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
    12:8 And I heard, but I understood not. And I said, My lord, what shall be the end of these things?
    2:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of fulfillment.
    12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and purified but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.
    12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away to the appalling abomination, will in 1200 and ninety days.
    12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the 1335 days.
    12:13 And thou shalt go at last, rest, and stand in your lot at the end of the days.

    Oh my dear brethren, have little time, that the Lord Jesus Christ bless you greatly, Shaloom

    Brother Manuel de la Peña
    Santiago de Chile, March 11, AD 2013.

  24. Today hypocrisy begins. Cardinals in the Whore-“church” will go in conclave to elect its next leader. This is interesting on a prophetic level. I think that the new pope will be elected during the first election session, which will then (in my view) mean that the person is predetermined (primarily by the Illuminati and the Vatican).
    If that does not happen in the first electoral session, it’s going to be several – five-six-perhaps ten to twelve electoral sessions (depending on how many each day) until they have found a “suitable candidate”. All this to hide that “election” has already been done.
    Had this been by the Holy Spirit, it had been different, for He has no difficulty in deciding …

  25. repeat judgement is coming…very soon get out of her my people says the LORD…don’t follow men …this whole mess is deception… get out of her my people….beware of the false prophet and the beast that she is riding….which will devour her and all those that follow her!!!! Beware….you’ve been warned……..Shalom

  26. John Rodriguez IV: The great harlot of the Apocalypse and the beast she is riding do nor fit the description of the Church: “And the woman which thou sawest is the great city, which hath kingdom over the kings of the earth… And the merchants of the earth shall weep, and mourn for her: for no man shall buy their merchandise any more… And in her was found the blood of the prophets and of the saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.” (Apocalypse 17: 18, 18: 11 & 24). This description fits the Synagogue and the beast that she is riding – freemasonry. The false prophet would be an Antipope who was an enemy of Jesus Christ in the service of the great harlot and the beast. Such men we do not follow but we only follow the true successors of St. Peter before 1958 who was appointed by God HImself to speak in His name, as Moses was in the Old Testament now made void and superseeded by the New Covenant in the blood of Christ.

    1. The Father YHWH never gave any one the power that the Vatican is said to have!!! The Pope is not the Vicar of Christ, whoever Christ is. This name was made up by man!
      The Father told Moses his name and His son’s name. Once at the Burning Bush and again on Mount Sinai. The Messenger told Miriam the mother of Yeshua Messiah what His name will be!
      In the Hebrew it means ‘THE ONE WHO SAVES!
      Like the Pagans before Constantine and the Vatican they have altered the words of the Father to suit their ultimate end!
      The Father has prophesied the end of this world and He has described the Beast no matter what the Vatican says BELIEVE THE CREATOR ABOVE ALL AND DENY THE BEAST HIS POWER!!!

      1. Dear Jerry Jennett

        Shalom, and love in Jesus.

        The Pope is a usurper of authority. He claims to have been handed over the keys to Heaven from God, as the only true apostolic sucessor of Peter. That is a lie. The Roman Catholic Church was formed in 320 A.D. Hundreds of years after this Jewish apostle walked on the face of the Earth.

        To collect such athority on one hand, is blaspehmy against the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the only replacemnt for Jesus the Messiah. And the Spirit is equally available to all who are willing to repent, and obey the Word of God.

        The spirit do not work through, nor reveal all truths to one man. An infallibe leader of the Church of Jesus the Messiah. A man who claim such a position is an antichrist.


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