All signs points towards an imminent return of the Messiah

How we act towards Israel is only one of the tests of the human heart. The sign of a sudden second coming of the Messiah is now everywhere.

His creation has no power over Him. Jesus of Nazareth is God the Creator. He holds life and death in His hands, and even Mountains bows down to Him. Like on Haiti.

In the last days there will be terrible times. Jesus the Messiah asks a valid and important question:

Will I find faith, when I return?

Luke 18:8

I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?”

Mankind is turning to either of these qualities: Wickedness, blasphemy, perversion, hate and violence. Selfishness and apathy is the sign of the total degeneration of the Human race. The signs are everywhere, both inside of claimed to be Churches, and outside.

Are you singing in the bath room in the morning?

The Volcano on Iceland exposes mans limitations

If so, you start the day with praise and worship. Out of your mouth comes what your heart is full of. What you say and do, express who you have made Lord of your life. And with whom you will spend eternity.

Luke 6:45

The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks.

Just before the Son returns, our Father Creator will also show us the powerless man with signs from nature.

Poor children are dying. Few people realy cares

Tsunamis, earthquakes, erupting volcanoes, oil spill and other calamities will be viewable on all TV`s and mobile phones. Cold hearted people will not pay much attention to famines and genocide of not privilege people in the third World. But when many overfeed and arrogant people of the Western World experience instability and chaos, the majority will panic, and have no clue of what is about to happen. Because they do not read the Bible.

Luke 21:11
There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.

You might say: But there have always been earthquakes and wars. Whats the difference today, that points to the return of Jesus?

Never before have all these sign`s appeared simultaneous, and with such force.  The final blossom of Israel and the United Nation armed campaign against her seems to take place in our generation. There are now hardly any prophetic messages left to be accomplished,  that will delay the return of The Messiah.

Lets hope and pray that all human beings will turn from their life of sin, and turn to the living God before it is to late.

2 Timothy 3:1-5

But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.

Jews and Christians will suffer if they compromise.

Lukewarm «Christians» will be the first to perish on the day of Judgment. The Messiah called hypocrites brood of wipers, children of the devil.

Revelation 3:16
So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth.

The good news to all who read this message:

Jesus has paid in full for your sins, and took the eternal death you deserve. He is your only hope. Without His mercy and grace, you will surely perish.

His grave is empty. Jesus is alive. His mercy and love is still available for all who are willing to listen and obey. Please open your Bible and read. I pray the Holy Spirit will come and pierce your heart. Amen.

Written by Ivar

First published 02.05.2010.

28 thoughts on “All signs points towards an imminent return of the Messiah

  1. Ivar,

    As a Pastor and man who has studied over 32 years the Bible, I am still perplexed at comments such as yours where if we think wrongly about Israel or “How we act towards Israel is only one of the tests of the human heart. What has Israel to do with the second coming, and what has my thoughts about Israel to do with how I will be judged? I have never read anything about this in the Old Testament nor New Testament. The state of the mind of the Christian is not Israel bound but God bound. Israel is a God hating nation as most nations if not all nations today. They are Christ rejectors and have provoked God as all nations have in serving sin. There is no respecter of persons with God and God is no respecter of nations either. If, “according to the election of grace,” some of the nation of Israel are saved then they will be saved. The focus and will of Christ is to present His “Church” without spot, wrinkle or blemish before the Father’s glory.” The whole of Christianity is involved in this and to lay emphasis on Israel as the “sign” of Christ’s second coming is the folly and great error many of our fathers in the past have laid hold of in error.
    The great apostasy of our day is the sign and the Heavenly Jerusalem is the descending Holy Spirit the we receive upon salvation. We come to mount Zion, the mount of God meaning the throne of God, not the geographical country or city. We have the Heavenly Jerusalem written upon the hearts of all true saved born again Christians. As a minister, I never pray for Israel nor focus on Israel nor give money to Israel, nor do I see Israel as the church. They need salvation as any nation does Ivar. Too many inconsistencies taught in the church about the geographical Israel and Matthew 24. Matthew 25 tells of the second coming, Matthew 24 already happened, ” Matt. 24:25, For wheresoever the carcass is, there will the eagles be gathered together.” This is direct indication of the Roman armies gathering together under the sign of an eagle to destroy Israel in 70 A.d. Ivar. The gathering army saw the pestilence and earthquakes, the wars against the weakened Israel especially because they cursed themselves, “let His blood be upon us and our children.” Christ was answering three question Ivar and in Matthew 24, He answered only two. Chapter 25 is reserved for the guided as the what will happen at the second coming. Matthew 24:36, …But this generation shall not pass until all these things be fulfilled.” Ivar, the generation Christ spoke of was the Apostles generation and all those things did come to pass as he spoke. too much emphasis on prophecy and Israel. Preach to your own countrymen Ivar, God would be more pleased in this. A nation was born in a day…. all nations were born in a day Ivar, but this is the church born in Acts 2, the church, the spiritual and Heavenly Jerusalem.
    As you write on this blog site, Israel is about to get the second Vatican seated in Jerusalem. Do you not think God’s great wrath all the more on Jerusalem for this abomination? Yes!!
    Too many generations of church going people and lukewarm christians in the past have tried to address the issue of each time and era of their lives in great depressions, wars, famines, etc., as the “sign of the times” and have failed miserably. Some even moved there thinking Christ will for sure come and…. we are still here! They perished with a lack of knowledge and poor carnal interpretation of scriptures. fear drives people to study prophecy alone and Israel because they do not understand the scriptures. They do not have th mind of the spirit and are afraid of the second coming. A person who studies Israel and the second coming is one who will lack in service to the sinner man and be judged for a heart that is a respecter of persons! Satan has deceived many generations on these subjects Ivar.
    Anti Christ is already here and we always miss it as John says it is the apostasy that is anti Christ. It is a spirit of revolt in lukewarm Christians, the worldly minded half hearted Christian, the cult clinging Christian. These are what make the “system of antiChrist.”
    Study more about godliness and holiness. Study Charles Finney, and understand that, the condition of God’s judgment is not how you feel about Israel, but the condition of the heart toward God alone.
    John.

    1. Dear John.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      You wrote:

      Study Charles Finney, and understand that, the condition of God’s judgment is not how you feel about Israel, but the condition of the heart toward God alone.

      My reply:

      God’s judgment has nothing to do about how you feel about Israel. That is correct. It is rather what you DO in regards to Israel. DO you harm the Jewish people. DO you make their eternal promises null and void. DO you claim that God of the Bible is a liar, and can not be trusted.

      Our “conditions” of our heart towards God alone, is very much linked to our willingness to DO the Fathers will. So sit a look out over the ocean and do nothing but thinking about God, is sometimes good. But as you rise up and walk into society, you will face challenges every hour. If you face a Jew, please bless him. Help Him, and tell him about Yeshua. If you harm him, or start to boycott the Jewish homeland you DO not DO the will of the Father in Heaven.

      1. Can you quote that verse and chapter for me? where does it say that? Why is it so important for me to bless a Jewish person? I tell everyone about Jesus Christ the Son of God. We are not to harm anyone with no respecter of persons as to jewish people first Ivar. Blessing Jewish people is not the will of God, quote it for me, where? I will not make any special receptions as to Jewish people over any other people. I treat all sinners as thus, sinners all.
        My question in response is… do you harm any people? They make their promises null and void, not me. I do not seek nor desire to face Jewish people nor do I treat them any different when they come into my church. They all hear the Gospel message and they are all sinners. There is no special provision but for all to come to repentance. The condition of the Christians heart is for the sinner man in our own country. If you are a Jewish man Ivar, then your burden is for your countrymen. Mine is for my immediate countrymen Ivar. I make no special effort to Jewish people as I do for any other people. I do not hate Jewish people nor dislike them. I treat all people the same, equal.
        I had a jewish man come into my church recently and he boasted about it and told me he would bless my church.I didn’t want anything to do with it. I would rather have a godly man or woman who is truly a prevailing prayer, and submitted to God universally in mind, soul, spirit and heart, than someone coming in to boast about where their lineage is from!
        Where does it say if I harm a Jewish man or woman I am not doing the will of my Father? I read more that if I do “anyone” harm, I am accountable for that! You must quit the respecter of persons in Jewish people as a focus but if you live there, then it is truly a burden to you. If not, the country you live in is your burden and the people you work with are the mission field. The Fathers will is not focussed on Israel, but the sinner man. I do nothing in regards to Israel and yet I have great understanding, revelation, godliness and holiness.My church is blessed in knowledge and revelation and a people built on solid understanding of scriptures, Old and New Testament. They know how to pray and they know the Christ they seek. I make no special provision for Israel but as a minister, my work is the church and salvation of the sinner man of all races. If a Jewish man or woman comes into the church, no special provision is made and they sit and hear the Word of God as does everyone else. I do not make special provision to bless them more or respect them more. If I did this, then I would be a respecter of persons. I bless all people, pray for all people and I do not harm “anyone.”
        Ivar, the promised land is the Holy Spirit. Jewish people returning to a land they refused to rid the enemy of and rebelled against God in serving idols and rejected and killed Christ has brought a curse upon them. He has not made special provision for them to take over the land, they didn’t do that under Joshua and God left the enemy in the land to try and test them and this they failed miserably in serving idols, hence the captivity. When Judah was the only tribe preserved, Christ came upon the scene and all was abolished completely. There is no more Jew, Greek, Barbarian, Gentile, all are one now and the Heavenly Jerusalem is the descending Holy Spirit upon salvation. We are children of the King, a spiritual kingdom not made with hands nor do we serve a political King ruling an empire on earth. The kingdom of God is not meat and drink, i.e., not physical, political, earthly, or a nation, but righteousness, holiness, joy and peace in the Holy Spirit. If any Christian s harmed, then you will face punishment. God does not choose Jewish people over His people to punish if harm is done to them. Israel the nation has always been harmed and always will be until the end. If that does not bring them to their knees, I do not know what will but in like manner, “any” nation who doe snot submit to God will be punished. If you want to pray for a nation pray for America. it is the seat of apostasy and every cult birthed and all manner of oppression grows from it. It is a nation of pride and arrogance, a bully and God rejecter. Spend time for it as it is going to fall greatly in a great way under heavy judgments.
        I do not set my mind against any nation and so, the great time of the harvest of the world Ivar, not the harvest of Israel, is upon us.

      2. Dear John.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        Ivar, the promised land is the Holy Spirit. Jewish people returning to a land they refused to rid the enemy of and rebelled against God in serving idols and rejected and killed Christ has brought a curse upon them.

        My reply:

        I never knew that a physical land could be a spirit….

        Your expression of Jews being “Christ-killers” is pure Nazism. It was the message from Hitler, who just kicked the “cursed Jews” a little bit harder than others.
        It was your sins that “killed Christ”. Mine too. So if you insist on blaming anyone for “killing Christ”, take a good in the mirror. Than you can send a bullet towards me. I can face it.

        I do not want to have this kind of anti-Jewish stuff on this site. Please go somewhere else.

        If you do not repent, your next message will be spammed. Now I have warned you in advance.

      3. Ivar sinned when he falsely accused a Christian of being a Nazi. You need to repent. Ivar will not speak against any Jew, but he speaks against a person who is truly Israel. There is something seriously wrong with your heart and your judgments.

      4. Dear His Truth.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        Ivar sinned when he falsely accused a Christian of being a Nazi. You need to repent. Ivar will not speak against any Jew, but he speaks against a person who is truly Israel. There is something seriously wrong with your heart and your judgments.

        My reply:

        This is a site of free expression. But I will not allow Jew-hate, filthy language, and insults without regrets. People who do not respond to direct question from the NTM team, will also be spammed. This is a site for debate, not publishing of private booklets.

        Many Nazis were considered “good Catholics”. That did not make them Christians. Many Jews do not know God. The state of Israel is filled with sinners, who do not know Jesus. There are also Jesus who believe that Jesus is the Messiah.

      5. Ivar,
        The Christian man you falsely accused have done none of the things you listed as offenses.
        You should be more afraid of the words you say to people who God loves, those of us who stay in Jesus’ love by obeying his teachings.
        You have sinned by falsely accusing a Christian, and you have slandered.

    2. You should not tell people that you have ben studing the bible for 32 years when you are so lost about what it says you should realy thing about giving up pastoring until you can give the right interpitations.

      1. Amein to that…

        I wonder why “Christians” have such a bad reputation?
        I’ll bet he believes in a pre-trib rapture and Trinity also.

        (Job 15:31) Let not him that is deceived trust in vanity: for vanity shall be his recompence.

        (Mat 15:9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

      2. Dear Bob.

        Shalom.

        I do not teach the doctrine of the pre-trib rapture, even though I long to be in Heaven with Jesus any day. To day, if possible.

        I do believe that God is a Trinity of three Persons, who are always in agreement. He appear to us in difference ways and forms. Elohim is a plural Hebrew word. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is One God. Three in One.

        I hope I can still be branded as a Messianic Believer, that will be permitted to enter the same Heaven as you.

      3. Sorry Ivar,

        My comment was directed at John.

        But as far as the “Trinity” goes, I can’t find it in the Scriptures.
        Therefor it must be a man made idea. (doctrine)?

        I just can’t figure the Holy Spirit is a 3rd being.
        Because it is the “Spirit of God”, from God Himself.
        A gift from God.

        However, it’s not a big issue, really not worth getting into.

        Bob

    3. John,

      You wrote: As a Pastor and man who has studied over 32 years the Bible, I am still perplexed at comments such as yours where if we think wrongly about Israel or “How we act towards Israel is only one of the tests of the human heart. What has Israel to do with the second coming, and what has my thoughts about Israel to do with how I will be judged?

      My Comment: Ezekiel 38 is called the LORD’S GREAT VICTORY over the Nations for a reason. the fact that Israel is God’s chosen land should not be ignored by anyone. If anyone harbor’s evil thought against Israel, or any man, Our Messiah already knows. And it has to do with judgment, as they Word of God says: “Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess to God.” Romans 14:11

      Ezekiel 38
      The LORD’s Great Victory Over the Nations
      1 The word of the LORD came to me: 2 “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of[a] Meshek and Tubal; prophesy against him 3 and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against you, Gog, chief prince of[b] Meshek and Tubal. 4 I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army—your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. 5 Persia, Cush[c] and Put will be with them, all with shields and helmets, 6 also Gomer with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah from the far north with all its troops—the many nations with you.
      7 “‘Get ready; be prepared, you and all the hordes gathered about you, and take command of them. 8 After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety. 9 You and all your troops and the many nations with you will go up, advancing like a storm; you will be like a cloud covering the land.

      10 “‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: On that day thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil scheme. 11 You will say, “I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people—all of them living without walls and without gates and bars. 12 I will plunder and loot and turn my hand against the resettled ruins and the people gathered from the nations, rich in livestock and goods, living at the center of the land.[d]” 13 Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all her villages[e] will say to you, “Have you come to plunder? Have you gathered your hordes to loot, to carry off silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods and to seize much plunder?”’

      1. Hi Gloria
        Peace to you
        The bible is full of truths and also gives much to consider.
        Consider this, and as you consider please don’t conclude
        that this is my way of proving a point to win a discussion.
        It is food for thought.
        The relationship between earthly ,temporal,fleshly Israel
        and God, was symbolic of a marriage was it not.
        Jer.2:2 “‘I remember the devotion of your (Israel) youth,
        how as a bride you loved me and followed me through the desert, through a land not sown.
        No question here Israel was married to her creator God
        symbolicaly.

        Did Her(Israel) husband (God) accuse her of being a prostitute
        or an harlot.
        Jer. 3:6 …:have you seen what faithless Israel has done? She has gone up on every high hill and under every spreading tree and has committed adultery there.
        Jer.3:16 Return faithless people declares the Lord for I am your husband.
        Ezekiel 16:28 You engaged in prostitution wit the Assyrians too, because you were insatiable; and even after that, you still were not satisfied. 29. Then you increased your promiscuity to include Babylonia, a land of merchants, but even with this you were not satisfied.
        Hosea 4:15 Though you commit adultery O Israel, let not Judah become guilty.
        Jer.3:8 I gave faithless Israel a certificate of divorce and sent her away because of all her adulteries.. Yet I saw her unfaithful sister
        Judah had no fear; she also went out and committed adultery….
        In spite of all this, her unfaithful sister did not come back to me with all her heart.
        Consider; Her husband (God) divorced her. Something that he hates. I hate divorce God says.
        Does this mean he will take her back? or is it forbidden by him to take her back and be married to her?
        Deut 24: 1 If a man marries a woman who becomes displeasing to him because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce,gives it to her and sends her from his house,2. and if after she leaves his house she becomes the wife of another man, 3.and her second husband dislikes her and writes her a certificate of divorce gives it to her and sends her from his house, or if he dies, 4. then her first husband who divorced her is not allowed to marry her again after she is defiled
        That would be detestable in Gods eyes.
        Consider the word of God closer
        Jesus, who is God in the Flesh is he not? is our great High priest. Heb. 4;14 Therefore since we have a great high priest
        who has gone through the heavens, Jesus the son of God…
        IICor 11:2 I am jealous for you(Corinthian believers, ie the church) with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him.
        Leviticus 21:10 The high priest, the one among you who has had the anointing oil poured on his head and has been ordained to wear the priestly garments…
        13. the woman he marries must be a virgin. He must not marry a widow, or a woman defiled by prostitution, but only a virgin from his own people.
        Jesus is the great High priest. does that mean he comes under strict marriage regulations. If so he can only be married to the church who Paul said is presented to one husband ,Christ as a virgin.
        Can the relationship that God had with eartly, fleshly Israel
        be a marriage relationship as it was. If so that would be detestable to him and he would violate his very rules of marriage and divorce
        Monkey wrench

    4. MULTIPLE CHOICE QUESTION

      Do you believe “Moshiach” is…

      (a) A tasty Polish stew best served in the depths of winter.

      (b) An irrelevant, archaic concept with no relevance to today’s world.

      (c) A metaphor for an age of world peace and does not imply an actual person.

      (d) Alive and breathing right now on Planet Earth and is doing his work.

      (e) Has already lived and will return one day.

      (f) Not born yet and is not physically present on earth yet.

      (g) Best represented by the collective Jewish people and/or the State of Israel.

  2. John,

    I always question any “Pastor” who brags about his knowledge and length of time in scripture and study. Alvin is right, Israel is the apple of God’s eye and to not support, pray for, or align ourselves with them puts us at odds or makes us a enemy of God, that is 100% scriptural. Matt. 24:36 “this generation shall not pass” is the generation that sees Israel reborn as a nation. Use your concordance and you will see that Jesus was speaking about the temple being destroyed, the things that would occur before the tribulation and the things just before His second coming. This saying and paragraph “Some even moved there thinking Christ will for sure come and…. we are still here!”

    What are you saying? That we waste our time in Bible prophecy because were scared, NO! We study and LOOK for Him using prophecies given to us so we can do as commanded by Him to “WATCH therefore”, and did you forget that He says in Matt. 24:45-51, 45 “Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season? 46 Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing. 47 Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods.

    48 But if that evil servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ [g] 49 and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards, 50 the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of, 51 and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    Fear does not drive people to prophecy, obedience to His command to WATCH drives people to prophecy and the hope of His Imminent return.
    You are quick to accuse Christians and lukewarm Christians and you yourself go against what is commanded of us, to love mercy and to walk Humbly before our God. Jeezzzzz ! Who taught you, you sound as confused and misguided as the Emergent Church.

    The Lord says, that I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you. Speaking of His people and His nation. I am not a Jew but I rip my clothes to shreds out of the Ignorance you have of Scripture. You should shut your church down if this is the stuff you teach them!!!!!!!!!!

    The promised land IS Israel and the promised people are the Jews, all men, Jew and gentile put Jesus on that cross. It’s not a “Who dunit”, its (ALL Men) that put Him on the cross. The promised land is not the Holy Spirit and all are not one yet untill Christ gathers us ALL together, the Bride of Christ, the Friends of God and the Jew, when it is all said and done and all are graphed into His tree of Life will we then be ONE in Christ as a complete family, He is still graphting us in to His family tree, He’s not done yet.

    God does not want to bring Israel to there knee’s, He wants and ONLY wants them to acknoledge Him as there King and Messiah. That’s in scripture and since your so all knowing of things and scripture I will leave it to you to find out where it say’s that. You know Greek and Hebrew Translations are really good in giving you the meaning of the words used by the authors, I suggest you try using it.

    Study to show yourself approved! That’s in scripture to incase you missed it.

  3. I have a little game I would like to play. It is completely up to the Christian reader whether you want to join in. I have offered the same deal to quite a few people in many parts of the world at different times over the past eight years.

    The game is called the “Second Coming 2011 Futures Contract”.
    This is how it works. As a Christian you will no doubt adhere to the belief that Jesus is returning to earth at some point in time for a second visit to terra firma. Because you hold this belief and that is why you are a Christian, you may be prepared to commit to something. Now I don’t believe in the idea of the second coming, even though I believe Jesus was real and was one of the most important people to have ever lived. Now I will bet that he will never return. You can take a position and quite rightly profit from your belief. Jesus had a reasonable problem with the money-changers but he wasn’t completely against the stuff.

    For every dollar you invest I will pay you an amount = Your Stake x A Multiplier of 100 x The Number of Months Expired from the Start of the Contract when he Appears.

    If he doesn’t appear by Dec. 31st, 2011, you lose your stake. If you would like to bet again then we can renegotiate another “Special Carpenter Futures Contract”. It is a very generous offer. To make things worthwhile the minimum bet you can make is $1000.

    Example…

    Jesus of Nazareth reappears descending from the clouds with his donkey at the gates of Jerusalem via YouTube on Christmas Day 2011.

    Your bet $1000 x 100 x 5 months = $500,000

    HOLY JACKPOT !!!

    A good return in any stockbroker’s language.

    Interested…

    1. Oh Adam, I do pity you. I mean that in a respectful way. A person who is a christian would not take your bet, the bible says no man shall know the day nor the hour of Christs return. I have only been a believer for 3 years but i do know that the rapture of the church will occur before Christ’s physical return to the earth. The rapture is the completion of the time of the gentiles. That is when God turns His full attention back to Israel and 144000 Jewish people become Believers in Jesus at that point. The bible tells us signs to be watching for to let us know we are getting closer, but it does not date set no matter where you look. It tells us just to be ready, I personally am amazed at the signs of the times. But that does not mean i can pick a time out of thin air. I will be praying for you and those who know you. I pray that Jesus will get ahold of your heart and show you how amazing he really is.
      Also in response to John,
      Like I said I am still a fairly new christian. But I have been Hungry for Gods word. the more I read of his word, the more I see that Israel is the key. God told Abraham I will bless those who bless you and cures those who curse you. That applies to him and his decendents- the nation of Israel. You say that you dont even pray for those of Israel, Jesus himself was a jew. Jesus himself said O Jeresulem Jeresulem how I have longed to gather you as a hen gathers her chicks, but you were not willing. Jesus knew they were not willing at that point but he still longed for them. God did not forsake his covenant with Abraham- it was a one sided covenant, God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Abraham when He made the covenant. That symbolized that the covenant was not a conditional covenant. Now you may not be interested in prophecy- it is a large section of the bible- but it is your choice. But Jesus did not condemn the Jews as he hung on the cross. He still loved them. And out of respect for your savior you should at least pray for those he longed to gather to him. They are still his nation. We- the gentiles- are the wild olive branches that are grafted to the root. will he not much more accept the natural branches more. Read romans 11. the whole chapter tlks about gentiles vs jews. God loves all of us but remember do not boast against the branches. if you have been a pastor for 32 years then you should know exactly what i am talking about. God bless you sir. I do pray that you allow him to open your eyes to the full beauty of himself.

      1. Hello Hungry for his word
        You said:
        God told Abraham I will Bless those who bless you and curse those
        who curse you. That applies to him and his decendents-the nation of Israel.
        My comment:
        God made a promise to Abraham that he would bless those who bless him and his seed.
        Who is his seed?
        What is it that makes a person a true Israelite?
        Their are two Israel’s mentioned in scripture.
        Which Israel is the Israel of God.?
        What makes a man a Jew?
        When Paul wrote Romans and he talks about Israel being cut off
        from the natural root because of unbelief,and gentiles being grafted in because of faith, What does it take for them to be grafted back into the natural root again?

  4. A key “timing” verse is Luke 21:24

    Luke 21:24
    24 and they will fall by the edge of the sword, and will be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled under foot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

    The verses preceding this one were fulfilled by Titus when he destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple. Jesus then uses the phrase “times of the Gentiles”…….the only other place in the whole Bible when a similar phrase is used is in Romans 11, by Paul, when he is discussing the “fulness of the Gentiles”, and Israel’s “partial hardening”.

    As of 1967, Jerusalem is no longer trampled underfoot by Gentiles (Romans, Byzantines, Mohammed, Crusaders, Saladin, Ottomans, British) , but is united under Jewish rule for the first time in over 2000 years, maybe the “times of the Gentiles” are coming to a close, and so we should hold our heads high, for our redemption is near.

    As far as the restoration of national Israel, there can be no doubt, unless one wants to tear Ezekiel 36 and Jeremiah 30-33 out of their Bible. They WILL be His people, and He WILL be their God, as He swore to the forefathers…it is only a matter of time…..God WILL fulfill what He has promised concerning Jacob.

    1. “As of 1967, Jerusalem is no longer trampled underfoot by Gentiles”. This is partially true but the temple mount is still controlled by Gentiles (Arabs). There is coming a time when the Jews will rebuild their temple but will still share the temple mount.
      Revelation chapter 11 records that John was told to “Measure the temple” and that he is to “leave out” the outer court because it has been given over to the Gentiles.

      This leads me to believe the times of the Gentiles will last right up until the Lord returns.

  5. When I read these comments from so-called Christian who claimed he reads the bible for 32 years, I was horrid to hear that he directed to attack on Ivarfjeld because he supports Israel. My comment is for those lukewarm Christians to wake up and read the verse – Genesis 12:2-3 (KJV)
    And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: [3] And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

    God stated that whoever curses on Jews, He curses them! False Christians do not know why God chooses Israel as a nation where He sent His begotten Son to save the people from Satan. And even old testament predicted Israel will be re-born which fulfilled in 1948. God bless Israel and Lord Jesus Christ died for Jews and non-Jews. One day Israel will finally accept Jesus as their Lord and He will save Israel.

    Zechariah 12:10 (KJV)
    And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son , and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

    Leave Jews alone and prays for them to be saved. Amen.

  6. Wow. Have read most of the comments and some clarity is needed, hope and pray this helps.

    There were 12 tribes. All Children of Israel (Jacob).

    Judah (Jews) and Benjamin and some of Levi lived in Judea (Jews).
    The rest in Samaria.

    All Jews are Israelites but not all Israelites are Jews.

    Modern Israel is a COUNTRY, biblical Israel is a FAMILY and even when in Egypt they were still Israel. It doesn’t matter where these people went when they were in exile they were still Israel.

    The northern tribes went into exile before the people of Judea went to Babylon for the last time and because they never adhered to the law of God but chose their own gods, when these people went West they assimilated wherever they went.

    The people of Judea that went to Babylon never forgot who they were and kept Torah. Had they not kept Torah, we would not have the Old Testament.

    Jesus came to the Jew first, why? They had the Torah, they knew the prophets and when He fulfilled what the prophets said about Him, those of Judea who feared God recognised Him and became followers of The Way.

    His disciples were commanded to go after the lost sheep.

    Who are the lost sheep?
    The lost israelites who went into exile before the Jews and lost their identity and mixed with other peoples.

    God is a covenant God.

    A covenant is an agreement drawn up between two parties.
    Even if one of the parties breaks the covenant, the covenant will still be honoured.

    The law was given to all Israel, both Judean and Samarian. The Judeans kept the letter of the law and some do to this day, most of the Samarians did not unless hard times caused them to repent and turn once again to the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.

    God spoke the law direct to Israelites who agreed verbally that it was good and then He gave it to Moses in writing sealing the deal.

    Israel broke the covenant while the tablets were being written, and Moses had to, after atonement go back up the mountain to receive a new set.

    The covenant God made is still in force, so, where are we now.

    Very few people understand that it is possible to be an Israelite by blood or by adoption, both are equal to God. He does not diferentiate.

    If we look at the Exodus, anyone who went into a house with an Israelite family, a sojourner or stranger, received the same protection from the blood of the Lamb.

    Under the New Covenant Jesus is the Lamb of God and all who believe in Him receive the promise of eternal life, in fact it is only through Him that this can be received, just as during the Exodus it was only by being indoors with an Israelite family that there was a guarantee of protection from the plague.

    Somewhere back in history those Israelites who left Samaria and headed West (the lost sheep) were still recognised by God and known. All the people they employed, tooki as slaves, the nations they colonised and anyone they governed became Israelite by adoption.

    Just as it was possible to find Jews anywhere in the world, the world has also experienced the influence of Israelites who did not know they were Israelites living among them, causing them to unwittingly become Israelite, all now recognised by God as potentially His.

    This is why people often readily accept the God of the Bible, but don’t like obeying His Words, this is default Israelite behaviour!

    No man can come to me unless the Father who sent me, sends him.

    The God of the Bible watches over all His creation and He alone decides who He will introduce to His only beloved Son, Jesus Christ who by His Spirit comes to dwell in us.

    We live in the days where virtually all of humanity has the potential to accept, but is attracted by the ‘cares of this world’ and by choice will go after other gods. God knows this and will let us go so far down the wrong road so that we will respond to Him and repent from that way and want His Way.

    Jesus tells us that until we take the log out of our own eye we cannot help our brothers remove splinters from theirs.

    Our brothers the Jews of today have Torah, with the help of the Spirit they swiftly see that Yeshuah of Nazareth is their Messiah and will come again in that capacity.

    Christians of today have a harder time because Jesus clearly says that those who truly love him will keep His Commandments.

    As we know that Jesus was God in the flesh, the commandments He was talking about were the ten commandments.

    Christians need then to address the test commandment, that is commandment number 4.

    We can all accept that stealing, murder, envy and desire of things that don’e belong to us are wrong but how many realise that the simplest way to show God and the Lord Jesus that you love them is by keeping the Sabbath?

    Many will say that Saturday is the Jewish Sabbath and Sunday is the Christian Sabbath.

    God created the Sabbath at the end of creation week. Adam was not a Jew, the tribe of Judah did not exist then, therefore Jews did not exist either and, Jesus has not been born as the Word made flesh, so Christianity did not exist either.

    The Sabbath was made for man, God gave us a day to set aside.

    God will watch over His people, His people are those who love Him and keep His commandments.

    We therefore should ask God to bless our brothers in Judaism for they kept the Torah, which instructs them to keep the Sabbath that He created for of humanity

    Satan wants Iran to destroy Israel because the very fact that there are people in this world keeping the Sabbath is proof that God exists,

    God blesses those who bless you, so ask God to bless all of His children wherever they are and ask Him to open their eyes and yours to His wonderful truth which is to establish the Kingdom of Heaven here on earth with, Our Lord Jesus as King of kings and Lord of lords.

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