Hitler was a “pagan idol,” says pope to Jews in Berlin

The Pope praises growing trust between Judaism and the Church.

The Pope is hopeful that his latest gift to Angela Merkel will impress her.

Benedict XVI referred to Adolf Hitler as a “pagan idol” today as he addressed a small group of Jewish representatives in Berlin.

The Pope referred to his visit — part of his four-day tour of Germany — as bringing him to a “central place of remembrance, the appalling remembrance that it was from here that the Shoah, the annihilation of our Jewish fellow citizens in Europe, was planned and organized.”
The Holy Father is on his third trip to his homeland as Pope, though his first state visit.

The Pontiff spoke of the “Nazi reign of terror” as being based on a “racist myth, part of which was the rejection of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of Jesus Christ and of all who believe in him.”

“The supposedly ‘almighty’ Adolf Hitler was a pagan idol, who wanted to take the place of the biblical God, the Creator and Father of all men,” he said.

The Pope warned that “refusal to heed this one God always makes people heedless of human dignity as well.”
He said the images from the concentration camps at the end of the war show “what man is capable of when he rejects God, and what the face of a people can look like when it denies this God.”

Benedict XVI went on to highlight some of the signs today of a “real blossoming of Jewish life in Germany.” He also praised a “deepening dialogue of the Catholic Church with Judaism.”

The Pope proposed as well that “we Christians must also become increasingly aware of our own inner affinity with Judaism. For Christians, there can be no rupture in salvation history. Salvation comes from the Jews.”

The Holy Father called for dialogue between the reading of the Hebrew Bible and the Christian Old Testament.

“This dialogue should serve to strengthen our common hope in God in the midst of an increasingly secularized society,” he proposed. “Without this hope, society loses its humanity.”

Source: Zenit.

My comment:

The Pope again tries to falsify history.

Hither demanded that his followers should call him “Der Fürer”. The supreme and not challengeable leader of the German flock.

The Pope is also a supreme and not challengeable leader of the Catholic flock.  The Pope even elevate him self beyond Hitler, taking the name of “god”, the very “Holy Father”. Jesus only addressed His Father in Heaven as  “Holy father”.  The Messiah sternly warned his followers not to call any priest or spiritual leader for “father”.

Hitler looked up on him self as the successor of the Roman Empire, and only correct heir to the Roman emperor’s powers. The “Roman Empire” was the first Reich. “The Holy Roman Empire of Germany” was the second Reich, and Nazi-Germany the third Reich.

To achieve his Political ambitions, Hitlers moved into union with Fascist Italy. Benito Mussolini had already gifted the Vatican statehood to the Papacy in 1929, and Roman Catholicism had been brought back as state religion in Italy, after 50 years of religious freedom.

The Pope regained his status as the religious head of the Roman Empire.

 John 17:11
I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.

What is the difference of the “idol Hitler”, and the “Pope as an idol”?  Are they not both “pagan idols”, and makes a mockery of the Biblical faith?

 Matthew 23:9
And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.

In respect of claiming to be god’s replacement on Earth, the Pope is a higher and more dangerous idol that the Nazi-leader.

Written by Ivar

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7 thoughts on “Hitler was a “pagan idol,” says pope to Jews in Berlin

  1. “Where the Bishop is, there let the multitude of believers be;
    even as where Jesus is, there is the Catholic Church”
    Ignatius of Antioch, 1st c. A.D

    Bottom line: Christ spoke Aramaic and nicknamed Simon “Kepha,” (“Cephas”) which means “Rock.” Most of the New Testament was written in Greek (or translated into Greek, as is possible in the case of Matthew’s Book), and Kepha was translated as “Petros” or “Petra” (depending on stylistic needs of the context), which both mean “Rock.” In our English Bibles, “Petros” and “Petra” get translated into “Peter.” 1 Peter IS “the Rock,” the earthly head of Christ’s Church as Christ Himself states in Matthew 16. This would be as if you and I, speaking English and discussing someone named Mary, were quoted by an Italian who wrote her name as “Maria,” which a Frenchman translated as “Marie”.

    Many Protestants try to get around Matthew 16:15-19 by pointing to 1 Corinthians 10:3-5 “And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.” But this is something no Catholic would disagree with! Yes, the SPIRITUAL Rock, Christ, the High Priest and Head of the Church, authorized Peter to be the earthly Rock, His Vicar, of the Church — the father of the New Covenant, just as God the Father made Abraham the earthly father of the Old Covenant (Isaiah 51:1-2) while remaining the ultimate, SPIRITUAL Father of that Covenant.

    Now obviously Christ re-named Simon “Peter” in response to Simon’s confession of faith in Christ the Rock, the Foundation Stone, so the Protestant assertion that “the rock” was “Peter’s faith” has some merit in a circuitous way (and you will read early Church Fathers speaking of the rock of Peter’s confession), and of course, Cephas the rock derives his authority from and must never contradict the Rock Who is Christ; but in addition to the exegesis above, it simply can’t be ignored that Peter was re-named Kepha (Rock!) and exercised authority among the apostles: he was always named first when the apostles were listed (Matthew 10:1-4, Mark 3:16-19, Luke 6:14-16, Acts 1:13) — sometimes it was only “Peter and those who were with him” (Luke 9:32); he was the apostles’ spokesman (Matthew 18:21, Mark 8:29, Luke 12:41, John 6:69, Acts 4:1-13, Acts 2:37-41, Acts 5:15); he exhorted the other bishops (1 Peter 5:1); he was there at the most important moments (Matthew 14:28-32, Matthew 17:24, Mark 10:28); he was the first to proclaim Christ’s divinity (Matthew 16:16); he was the first to preach the Gospel after Pentecost (Acts 2:14-40), thus starting the whole “Church era”; he worked the first healing in the Church age (Acts 3:6-7); he had the revelation that Gentiles were to be baptized and accepted as Christians (Acts 10:46-48); he alone was told by Christ after His resurrection to “Feed My lambs; feed My sheep” (John 21:15-17) and strengthen his brethren (Luke 22:31-32).

    But where is the word “pope” in the Bible? Well, where is the word “father,”because that’s what “Pope” means (“pope” means “papa”) . But you won’t find the English word “pope” there any more than you’d find the word “Trinity.” The reality, though, is there, in Peter, from the very beginning. The ecclesiastical offices of Bishops (episkopos), elders (presbyteros, from which is derived the word “priest”), and deacons (diakonos) were already in place in the New Testament (Acts 20:28, Philippians 1:1, Acts 1:20, 20:28, Philippians 1:1, 1 Timothy 3:1-2, Titus 1:7, 1 Peter 2:25, Acts 15:2-6, 21:18, Hebrews 11:2, 1 Peter 5:1, 1 Timothy 5:17). The Pope, as Bishop of Rome, is simply the successor of Peter, who was the first Bishop of Rome and head of the earthly Church.

    Eusebius of Caesaria (A.D. 265-340) tells us in his “Church History” who succeeded him:

    Ch. 2
    “After the martyrdom of Paul and of Peter, Linus was the first to obtain the episcopate of the church at Rome. Paul mentions him, when writing to Timothy from Rome, in the salutation at the end of the epistle”.

    Ch. 13
    “After [Emperor] Vespasian had reigned ten years Titus, his son, succeeded him. In the second year of his reign, Linus, who had been bishop of the church of Rome for twelve years [Note: it was actually 9 years], delivered his office to Anencletus. But Titus was succeeded by his brother Domitian after he had reigned two years and the same number of months.”

    Ch. 15
    “In the twelfth year of the same reign Clement succeeded Anencletus after the latter had been bishop of the church of Rome for twelve years. The apostle in his Epistle to the Philippians informs us that this Clement was his fellow-worker. His words are as follows: ‘With Clement and the rest of my fellow-laborers whose names are in the book of life.'”

    THERE IS THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!

  2. When the pope says ‘we christians’ he means ‘we roman catholics’ as he doesn’t speak for we christians. And as for Peter being the Rock, yeah a Rock that denied Christ and was rebuked by Paul in public. Peter was a disciple a great man but not a Rock and a correct rendering of the word makes this plain,

    1. Excuse me!!! But even though Peter denied Jesus three times before his death on the cross, he was forgiven three times after Jesus’ resurrection!!! In John 21, when he is told to feed all of Jesus’ sheep.. Jesus had a short time on earth. Peter is the ultimate key holder given by Christ as representive or steward on Earth. Peter holds them in Jesus’ absence.

      As you may already be aware the Catholic position on Peter, the papacy and papal infallibility starts at Matthew 16:18-19. “And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it.
      I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

      Anyone demanding a proof text that says literally: “the popes are Peter’s successors and are infallible” should read no further. It isn’t in the bible and you won’t find it here. A discussion of Church structure and authority also presumes a belief in a visible Church. Catholics believe in that also, based on their understanding of scripture, others may not.

      Catholics as everyone knows are not “ Sola Scriptura” or “Bible Alone” people. Which is not to say they are unbiblical people, opinions to the contrary notwithstanding.

      Infallibility is not impeccability. Popes can and do sin. Some few seem to have wallowed in sin. That is not what this discussion is about.

      Let’s start with Matt 16:18 in its context: Matt 16:13-19

      When Jesus went into the region of Caesarea Philippi he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?”
      They replied, “Some say John the Baptist, others Elijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
      He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
      Simon Peter said in reply, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
      Jesus said to him in reply, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father.
      And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it.
      I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

      At this point a few facts indicating Peter’s primacy among the Apostles seems in order. In the New Testament, Peter, under his various names, Simon, Peter, Cephas, Kephas, Simon Peter, is mentioned 195 times. The closest after him is the Apostle John mentioned 29 times. Whenever all the names of the Apostles are listed Peter is always first and Judas Iscariot is always last. Matt 10:2-5, Mark 3:16-19, Luke 6:14-17, Acts 1:13. Sometimes they are referred to only as “Peter and his companions” or in a similar manner. Luke 9:32, Mark 16:7, Acts 2:37. Peter is seen as the spokesman for the whole group in Matt 18:21, Mark 8:29, Luke 8:45, Luke 12:41, John 6:68-69.

      A scriptural antecedent or Old Testament type of the kind of commission Jesus gives to Peter in Matt: 16:18-19 can be found in Isaiah 22:15-25. It is the description of the delegation of authority to the chief steward or minister of the king. The steward is given the key of the House of David It is an office with succession. The authority over the House of David is transferred from one servant to a new servant and his line. Much as the stewards of temple worship in Jerusalem were cut off and Jesus the Son of David passes the authority of His house to Peter. You see there also the transfer of authority to bind and loose even as given to Peter in Matthew.

      What examples do we have in scripture of Peter exercising this authority? They are found in

      Acts 1:15 Peter leads the other apostles in the selection of Matthias to succeed Judas in his office.
      Acts 2:14 Peter is first to proclaim the Gospel at Pentecost.
      Acts 3:1-12 The first public miracle is worked through Peter.
      Acts 4:8-12 Peter professes the faith before the Sanhedrin.
      Acts 5:1-5 Peter exercises Church discipline on Ananias and Sapphira dramatically and
      Acts 5:3-10 speaks with amazing and frightening authority.
      Acts 5:15 The faith of the people in Peter’s authority is demonstrated by their actions.
      Acts 8:14-15 Peter goes to Samaria to lay on hands so the Holy Spirit would come.
      Acts 8:20-24 Peter speaks for the Apostles rebuking Simon Magus.
      Acts 10:1-48 Peter baptizes the first Gentiles into the Church.
      Acts 11:18 Peter’s authority in baptizing Gentiles is accepted after he explains actions.
      His decision was binding on the Jewish Christians to accept the Gentiles
      and loosing for the Gentiles, loosing them from any obligation to be circumcised.
      Acts 15:1-35 At the Council of Jerusalem after much debate on the matter of the Gentiles
      Peter again states his position on the question. The assembly falls silent,
      Paul and Barnabas speak, and James accepts and supports Peter’s doctrinal
      Declaration. James then addresses the issues of minimum disciplines the Gentiles must
      practice now that they are accepted without having to be circumcised.

      A few other passages that deal with Peter’s unique position among the Apostles are:

      Luke 22:31-32 “ And the Lord said unto Simon, Simon, behold, Satan has desired to have you that he may sift you as wheat; But I have prayed for you, that your faith does not fail; and when you are converted, strengthen your brethren.”

      John 21:2, 15-17. In this passage Jesus questions Peter three times whether he loves Him.
      “Do you love me more than these?”
      Jesus tells Peter, “feed my lambs…, tend my sheep…, feed my sheep.”
      He is appointing Peter as the Shepherd of his flock. But he does not address the several other Apostles who are present. It is clear that Peter is to shepherd not only the flock of lambs but also the other sheep. This has been interpreted by some to refer to the laity as lambs, and the clergy as sheep. All including Peter himself are sheep of Christ’s flock with Jesus the ultimate shepherd. But again Jesus is here delegating His authority to Peter to be a shepherd of the flock and the other shepherds.

      Earlier Jesus had promised the special guidance of the Holy Spirit to guide the Apostles and the Church in all truth. John 14:16-18, 26 and John 16:12-13. It is the Holy Spirit who will preserve the Church and the successors of the Apostles from teaching error.

      There are too many passages of Scripture Old and New Testament to list indicating the imagery of the shepherd as ruler. But this is the image in which the Apostles are cast by Jesus, with Peter as the chief shepherd by Jesus’ delegation of authority. The other Apostles do have similar authority invested in them by Jesus, but Jesus never gives them the keys nor deals with them in the special individual manor He deals with Peter. Their authority is real but must be in unity with Peter, the guarantor of the unity of the Church on earth by Christ’s investiture. The other Apostles or bishops represent the diversity of the Church and Peter its essential unity.

      I will not go into all the early Church Fathers who support this general understanding. I will only mention one of the earliest, a successor of Peter who asserted his universal authority over another local Church. That is Clement of Rome whose Letter to the Corinthians some wanted o be included in the Canon of Scripture. In that letter, circa 80-98 A.D., Clement asserted his authority over the Corinthian Church as Peter’s successor. The letter is easily available on any number of web sites.
      I cite it only because it is so early in the apostolic succession and because some argue that papal authority was an invention of the fifth century. The outward dressing of that authority may have developed over the years but the inner essential has remained the same.

      The dogmatic formulation was done at the Vatican Council I, 1870 and further refined at Vatican II in the 1960s.

      1. Dear Scoty.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        There are too many passages of Scripture Old and New Testament to list indicating the imagery of the shepherd as ruler. But this is the image in which the Apostles are cast by Jesus, with Peter as the chief shepherd by Jesus’ delegation of authority.

        My comment:

        The comment field on this blog is not for cut & past of long Vatican booklets. Please write short comments, and take one issue at the time. Bidding to debate multiple issues never leads to debate.

        Short about Petrine theology of Rome:

        It there is no Apostolic succession, the Papacy is a complete fraud. Since the pope claim to be “The Holy Father”, the Apostolic succession is not linked to Peter, but to the Pope claiming to sit in the seat of “god” on Earth.

        Where in the Bible, do Roman Catholics find justification of calling the Pope “The Holy Father”? Give me one scripture, or one example of a Biblical person who used this name.

  3. Where in the Bible, do So Call-Christians like you find justification of calling the God “The Holy Trinity”? Give me one scripture, or one example of a Biblical person who used this name. Or How about the term Incarnation???? OOOOHHHH Its Called TRADITION!!!! Which you don’t have!!

    “Where the Bishop is, there let the multitude of believers be;
    even as where Jesus is, there is the Catholic Church”
    Ignatius of Antioch, 1st c. A.D

  4. When Jesus was talking to Peter, He said: Upon this rock I build my Church. HE was talking about HIMSELF. we are living in the days of great apostasy as it is written. Jesus is the Rock of our Salvation. Calling himself the vicar of Christ on earth is great blasphemy, the UNFORGIVEABLE SIN

  5. The pope and those who stand up with them is guilty of the same. they need to run as fast as they can…………….the pope said Christ will die at the end of the age, that hoomosexuals are a gift of G-d and if you don’t believe, all they have to do is do good deeds. they are the ones that G-d said would never see the Kingdom of G-d. Jesus is the way the truth and the life and NO ONE can come to the FAther in heaven but thru Chirst our L-rd who is in heaven, no someone who calls themself that. Satan is alive on planet earth. Rev 12, G-d said I am going to send the devil down to you. there is only ONE Gospel and the rest we are to turn away from the lies

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