“Please turn to Virgin Mary to discover salvation”

The Pope explained to faithful Catholics to turn to “Virgin Mary” if they wanted to rediscover her son.

The Pope preach a different gospel, and leads men into a dead end that will lead to death and eternal destruction.

“Christ, in his resurrection, destroyed this “wall of death,” the Pope told those gathered in St. Peter’s Square on Sunday.

This is what the Catholic News Agency (CNA) recorded:

“Pope Benedict concluded his Angelus address with a call for everyone to turn to the Virgin Mary in prayer that she might assist them in discovering salvation in Christ”.

Source: CNA

My comment:

Since the Pope calls the Roman Catholics to “rediscover” salvation, the good news must be hidden for them.

The Vatican often speaks about the “mystery of Christ”.

The truth is that the Pope him self hide the truth about Jesus. And the Pontiff deceives people, by telling those who search for the Messiah to go through His mother.

Because both Jesus and His mother says the radical opposite. You shall go directly to Jesus with all your prayers.  The Jewish mother of Jesus do not want to be a mediator between men and Him. In fact if she tries to be, she will sin against the scriptures.

1 Timothy 2:5

For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

The Pope is a man of sin. He leads people away from the truth.

Written by Ivar

69 thoughts on ““Please turn to Virgin Mary to discover salvation”

  1. The gods of Rome: The wafer god in the Eucharist and Mary, “Queen of Heaven and earth”

    “…let us pray to Mary to help us find the right path every day. Amen.”

    “Being in God and with God, she is close to each one of us, knows our hearts, can hear our prayers, can help us with her motherly kindness and has been given to us, as the Lord said, precisely as a “mother” to whom we can turn at every moment.”


    “Mary is taken up body and soul into the glory of Heaven, and with God and in God she is Queen of Heaven and earth. And is she really so remote from us?

    The contrary is true. Precisely because she is with God and in God, she is very close to each one of us.

    While she lived on this earth she could only be close to a few people. Being in God, who is close to us, actually, “within” all of us, Mary shares in this closeness of God. Being in God and with God, she is close to each one of us, knows our hearts, can hear our prayers, can help us with her motherly kindness and has been given to us, as the Lord said, precisely as a “mother” to whom we can turn at every moment.

    She always listens to us, she is always close to us, and being Mother of the Son, participates in the power of the Son and in his goodness. We can always entrust the whole of our lives to this Mother, who is not far from any one of us.

    On this feast day, let us thank the Lord for the gift of the Mother, and let us pray to Mary to help us find the right path every day. Amen.”

    1. The queen of heaven is A PAGAN GODDESS, A DEVIL– READ YOUR BIBLE see Jeremiah 7:18 “The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the QUEEN OF HEAVEN, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger”

      Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6(Not through the virgin Mary)

      Please follow Jesus, as Mary can not help you.

      1. i would take that back if i were you. even if YOU dont believe mary is blessed and holy, you cannot deny her being Christ’s mother. in other words, Jesus probably doesnt like you calling his mother rude names.

      2. Dear dashti


        I know that you did not respond to my message, but I would like to respond. True Christians would never give the mother of Jesus anything but deep respect.

        The problem is that Catholic Mary is not the mother of Jesus. The Vatican is deceiving the flock. Catholic Mary is a pagan goddess, that has mingled into “Christianity”, promoted by the Pontiff in Rome. This spiritual disaster have to be rebuked. If not, people who have been royally deceived might not be able to leave this false Church.

        Please read the Bible, and discover the true mother of Jesus, a wonderful young Jewish virgin.

      3. ivar-
        you said:
        Please read the Bible, and discover the true mother of Jesus, a wonderful young Jewish virgin.
        i say:
        i do read the bible, the one with more books. i dont try to worship mary or find salvation thru her, but mary gave birth to Jesus, therefor, she is his mother. every mother holds the heart of her son so we catholics ask mary to please pray to Jesus and ask her son to save us, forgive us, answer our prayers, etc.
        thank you for saying she is a virgin. finally someone knows the truth with me.

  2. “She always listens to us, she is always close to us, and being Mother of the Son, PARTICIPATES IN THE POWER of the Son and in his goodness. We can always ENTRUST the WHOLE of our lives to this Mother, who is not far from any one of us,” because Mary, “[b]eing in God and with God, she is close to each one of us, knows our hearts, can hear our prayers…”

    The other god of Rome: Mary, Queen of Heaven and earth

    1. The Word fo God says: Exodus 20:4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

      Mary did not die for anyone sins, for she was a sinner like you and I. It is Jesus Christ who is Our Savior and Our King.

      1. no mary wasn’t a sinner. she was perfect in every way, without sin. no she didn’t die for us, but she loves us so much that we accept her as our mother and hope she prays for our dirty sinful souls.

      2. Dear Dashti,

        Mary said:
        Luke 1:47
        “My soul glorifies the Lord
        and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,
        (end of scripture)
        Why does Mary say she needs a savior? Only sinners need saviors.

        The Catholic church says Mary was born without sin and preserved from sin from conception. There is absolutely no scripture to back this up. They use the Magnificat to back it up, but it does not since she cries out for a savior.

        The bible also says:
        Romans 3:10
        As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one;
        (end of scripture)

        Not one. Not even Mary.Only our Lord is righteous. To say Mary is sinless is blasphemy and it takes away from His glory which He will not share with another.
        Isaiah 42:8
        “I am the LORD; that is my name! I will not give my glory to another or my praise to idols.
        (end of scripture)

        Mary also went to the temple and offered sacrifices for sin. Only sinners do this, not a woman ‘perfect in every way’ and sinless.

        Luke 2:24

        They also offered a sacrifice according to what is specified in the law of the Lord: “a pair of turtledoves or two young pigeons.”
        (end of scripture)
        The Catholic Church has turned Jewish Mary into a sinless goddess. And this is the truth Dashti.
        God bless you.

      3. sue-
        i understand where you are coming from, but mary is so different it is hard for one to wrap there head around her. mary was one of the most humble beings on the earth. being the mother of God, it was required of her. she prays to God and says she needs a savior because she is not pig-headed like the rest of humanity. if someone were to ask her if she was a sinner, she would probably say something so wise we would be like,”uuuh, oh, okay,” and then we would walk away dazed thinking,”wow, i never thought about that before.” this is something that was passed down from mary to Jesus, and he perfected it. Mary is Jesus’s soft spot, and there are many places in the bible that prove that. we pray to mary when we r-e-a-l-y NEED this thing, so we pray to mary and ask her to aks Jesus about this and that etc. to get close to Jesus, we must first get close to mary and then we will probably see more and understand more from that view. if you let Him, Jesus will take you on a journey that you will never forget. all you have to do is let him hold your hand.

      4. Dear dashti


        You wrote:

        she is not pig-headed like the rest of humanity. if someone were to ask her if she was a sinner, she would probably say something so wise we would be like,”uuuh, oh, okay,”

        My reply:

        Many people claim they know what the mother of Jesus probably would have taught, and what she would have said. The truth is that the mother of Jesus is recorded to hardly say anything, and Jesus did even rebuke her in public. The Messiah is God, his mother was a created being.

        When the mother of Jesus came to look for him, the crowed was told PLAINLY not to pay any special attention to his family in the flesh.

        Matthew 12:46-50

        While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.

        He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”

        (end of scriptures)

        There will not be any further excuse for Roman Catholics who have landed in Hell to spend eternity there. You simply do not want to obey they truth. Neither do you seem to be able to read simple messages, nor are you interested in listening to people who tell you the truth.

      5. Dear Dashti,

        I don’t need Mary to be close to Jesus. In fact, when I stopped all prayers to Mary, I got close to the REAL Messiah. King Jesus.

        When I really need HELP, I go to Jesus. He is the only one who saves. You said Mary is His “soft spot”. Baloney. He died for me and for His Jewish earthly mother. You are doubting that he really hears you and if you go to Mary, then he will answer. That is a lie from the enemy who wants to keep you far from Jesus and wants you to keep on praying to “Mary” as a false assurance.
        Pray only to Jesus, who answers ALL prayer.

        Please please hear us Dashti. Catholic Mary is set up as a sinless goddess. Get the statues out of your house and get rid of your rosary. Trust Jesus with everything and you will be set free. Stop praying to saints. In short, get out of Catholicism and you will be set free.

      6. ivar-
        i cant read true biblical messages just fine, it’s the twisted biblical messages that put me in confusion. Jesus said specifically to leave the judging up to him, so trying to determine my future by saying whether i’ll go to heaven or hell is not portraying you as a “true christian” you try very hard to be. trying to be a true christian is something i am very greatful you are trying to pursue, but listening with wooden ears is not going to get you very far. you can’t say whether i’m listening or not, because 1)it is rude and 2) you haven’t the slightest clue what i think. i do try to understand and embrace what all of my friends here at this website are telling me, but when i hear people fight about religious matters, i just have to squeeze in and argue my point. it’s in my nature, the nature God gave me.
        dear sue-
        it says in the bible that when more than one person is praying about something, God will hear that prayer more than other prayers because it will be louder. this is why i ask Mary and the saints to pray with me. they’re already in haeven, so their prayers will be the loudest of all.

      7. Dashti,

        Warning you about hell is not a bad thing, for Jesus does not want anyone to end up there.

        Praying and believing in Mary won’t save you. But Jesus Christ can.

  3. Do you people who run this website know nothing!? When catholics say a hail Mary, they are asking mary to pray with them and for them! It is no different then me walking up to one of you and saying “please pray with me for my forgiveness/salvation/etc” Have you people heard of the Westboro Baptist Church? I think you would get along great! 1st amendment is freedom of speech and religion and association. Please keep your personal blind convictions to yourself. And at that have some respect for the mother of God, because she was obviously so devout to god that through her Jesus came into this world. With people so judgmental as you all it is no wonder why christianity is on the decline. My advice learn to love your fellow man.

    1. Dear Josh.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      Since Jesus said that He is the only mediator, His mother is not. If you pray to His mother, she will not listen. You live in disobedience and sin.

      The Jewish virgin Miriam is not “The mother of God”. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit is One God. Three in One. They do not have a created being as “their mother”, nor do they have “a grand mother”.

      To take a deeper look inside the Roman Catholic Church, please use this link:


    2. Josh,

      You said: When catholics say a hail Mary, they are asking mary to pray with them and for them

      My Comment: Do you know what this means? Exodus 20:4 “You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.”

      That’s God telling all of us not to make an image of anything. Romans 3:23 says: for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,*end* Guess what Josh? That makes me you and every human born a sinner. So praising Mary or praying to Mary to help you with anything is not going to work. It is Jesus Christ who died for your sins, and rose, that we should pray to you, because he is Our Only Savior.

      Your Comment: Have you people heard of the Westboro Baptist Church? I think you would get along great!

      My Comment: Actually we wouldn’t get along great, because those that claim that “Jesus hates anyone” is a liar. For Christ loves us so much that he does not want anyone to perish.

      John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

      Your Comment: Please keep your personal blind convictions to yourself.

      My Comment: It’s not a conviction we speak of. It’s the Word of God.

    3. amen josh, you hit the nail on the head (though you could have said these things a bit kinder). for the record, that whole baptist wisecrack was just plain rude to most people on this website.

      ivar:i need a specific scripure verse, perferably more than one, where Jesus says that it is idoltary to pray to his mother. please and thank you. 😉

      Gloria:Jesus was born human. does that make him automatically a born sinner? you may think Jesus was born diferently than the rest of us considering he was an imaculate conception and he is the son of God possesing great powers and all, but he gave up all his sacred powers for a lifetime just so that he could be born human. he was a regular boy, though son of God, who took his mother’s advice to heart and had the highest understanding and trust in his father, God. it would have been impossible for mary to have been a sinner because she was Jesus’s mother. she was his infuence, his role model, and if she would have been a sinner, she would have taught our Christ to sin. therefor God created the perfect mother, sent her to earth to be born so that she may live her life without committing any sin so that she may birth his son,our savior, so that we may be given a chance at eternal happiness with God in heaven. yes, you speak the word of God, but i believe you are comprehending it wrong. i give you many points for even paying attention to Christ and his word, though. in love, ~D~

      1. Dashti,

        If it is impossible for Mary to be a sinner because in her womb she bore Jesus, then it is impossible for you also to have the Holy Spirit inside of you, because you are a sinner.
        With that logic, you need to be PERFECT and sinless in order for Jesus to live in you.
        In His humbleness, He lives in all Christians who also sin. That is what kind of Mighty God we serve.

      2. yes, but not only was he in her womb, but he was taught by her and instructed by her. mary and Jesus were both born human, had the chance to sin, and they both chose and acted against it. mary played a much bigger part in Jesus’ life than just being his delivering mother. we all forget that at one point in time Jesus was a child who was constantly being tempted to sin, just as all children are. Mary was (without being a sinner) chosen by God to teach Jesus in the ways of the Lord and to set a holy prayerful example for him. if she would have sinned at all during Jesus’ childhood, he would have sinned,too.

      3. Dashti,

        With all due respect, but you are incorrect.

        Jesus Christ is Our Savior. Mary recogonizes that he is her Savior in Luke 1 (see below), and with that she recogonzied that she was a sinner.

        It is the Catholic’s that have placed her in such an elevated status.

        Luke 1
        Mary’s Song
        46 And Mary said:
        “My soul glorifies the Lord
        47 and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,
        48 for he has been mindful
        of the humble state of his servant.
        From now on all generations will call me blessed,
        49 for the Mighty One has done great things for me—
        holy is his name.
        50 His mercy extends to those who fear him,
        from generation to generation.
        51 He has performed mighty deeds with his arm;
        he has scattered those who are proud in their inmost thoughts.
        52 He has brought down rulers from their thrones
        but has lifted up the humble.
        53 He has filled the hungry with good things
        but has sent the rich away empty.
        54 He has helped his servant Israel,
        remembering to be merciful
        55 to Abraham and his descendants forever,
        just as he promised our ancestors.”

      4. Dear Dashti,

        God is perfect. All Good and The Holy One. There is no sin in Him. Jesus could NOT sin. Mary did not teach Him to be Holy. He was Holy already. Being tempted is not sinning. Since He was human He was tempted due to the flesh, but sin separates a person from God and it is impossible for the Creator to sin since it is from the devil.
        If Mary was sinless, then the scripture lies saying not one is righteous.
        Dashti, believe in Scripture and reject the traditions of men that have no basis in His innerant word.

      5. it is not impossible for Jesus to sin, Granted he wouldn’t be God anymore if he did, but it was not and is not impossible. he choses not to for the greater good of mankind (us).

    4. Dear Josh.

      Born and raised Catholic and attended a Catholic University..I will tell you the difference.
      I can ask you to pray for me. You are alive on this earth. Mary is not living on this earth, she is dead.
      We are told only to pray to a living God and not to pray to the dead. And that is the difference.

      1. ahhh, but she isnt dead. she entered heaven body and soul as did her son. she is about as dead as Christ herself, and the bible will prove it.

      2. Dear Dashti,

        Please show me in the bible where/when Mary ascended into heaven body and soul. Thank you.

        Yes, Dashti, I know what the RCC teaches, trust me.

    1. it is impossible for mary not to know what goes on down here, as goes for all beings in heaven. this just goes to show that there are a few small holes in your argument.

  4. Dear Dashti,
    Have you talked to them and received audible answers? Did they tell you what prayers they hear? How do you know?
    Saying human beings can look into your heart and hear your prayers is to give them attributes of God alone.

    1. no i havent. i havent heard an audible answer from God either. all prayers are given recognition through signs. other people have heard and even met the blessed mother many times in many places. there is our lady of guadalupe, our lady of fatima, and so many more. you really should think about reading up on these incredible true stories. they are quite amazing.

    2. Dear Dashi.
      Two years ago I was a Catholic. I am aware of all the apparitions. But the devil appears as an angel of light. Because an entity claims to be Mary does not mean it is. I believe these are demonic beings taking worship away from Him who alone deserves our praise.
      God has revealed His truth in the word and He speaks to us through the scriptures.

      1. People who received signs from the Queen of Heaven in the old testament claimed their prayers were answered and bellies full from praying to this goddess. God in His justice demolished them because of their disobedience in praying to a goddess. He is jealous. All prayer is to Him alone.

      2. i understand what you are saying, but then again i dont. i want to understand, but i have a feeling i wont. im not going to feel sorry that you left the catholic church because that is your choice and you dont sound like you are suffering. as long as you believe in God, i am satisfied. i hate how people af different religions treat each other as if the other religion is worshiping satan. we all love God above all other things, and i think that is all that should matter. lets see if i can explain this. i love mary who gave birth to only Jesus (ahem, sjg). i dont try to reach salvation through mary or the saints because i know i wont get anywhere or anything except confusion. the saints are our examples. mary is our role model. God is our savior, our salvation, the light of the world, the end to darkness, the key to eternal happiness, and soooo much more. i dont know what kind of catholics you were affiliated with, but i do know that they must have either 1)not known their faith enought to explain it clearly to you, or 2) not been very devout catholics. if you dont mind me asking, what religion are you now?

      3. Dear Dashti,

        I don’t look at you like you are worshiping satan. I merely want to show you what the RCC is doing in telling their members to pray to mary.
        You are sincere and kind. I see that. I care about you, otherwise I would stay silent.

        Oh, my religion? I’m done with ‘religion’, but I am a follower of Jesus. 🙂

      4. well very good for you. and thank you, i try to be as kind and gentle as my concience allows me to be.

      5. Bless you Dashti. And again, I appreciate your kindness which is often forgotten during ‘debates.’

      6. Yeah, “The Queen of Heaven” is a term used to describe many goddesses in mythology…… Similiarly, many Gods had names meaning things like “Lord” and “Father of Man”… many of them are her consort also, or son.

  5. Simply put…. Jesus is the only way the Truth and the Life and no one comes to the Father but through Him. Hello. I don’t know why the Catholic church has been so hung up on worshiping another human being used by God to bring His Son into the world. Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit and was not born as a sinner. The spirit of Deception sure has been on the loose these days! Jesus is the only way to Salvation… not through Mary! Hello Pope! Wake up dude!

  6. Mary is dead, she was not a virgin after jesus was born. In fact she had 4 other sons, and at least two daughters.

    And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” Acts 4:12.

    Turn from the lies in the catholic chuch and read your bible. For Jesus warned us not to put the traditions of men above the word of God. If you love Jesus you will follow his commandments found in the bible.

  7. Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.(JOhn 14:6) (You cant reach God through the Virgin Mary)

      1. How could any dead person help you?

        Mary is dead and your Bible says the dead know nothing, your Pope assumed Mary to be resurrected so you believe that rather than what God Himself said?
        Ecclesiastes 9:5
        For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

  8. Dashti,

    The Catholic Church says ALL GRACES COME THROUGH MARY.That is why she is called the “mediatrix of all grace”

    Catholic Catechism, par. 969 ‘This motherhood of Mary [spiritual mother of all mankind] in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation …. Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.’ [LG 62.]

  9. Dear Dashti,

    It is with love I tell you these things. The RCC says you receive life through Mary. NO. You receive eternal life through the blood of Jesus and His atonement.

    Catholic Catechism, par. 494 At the announcement that she would give birth to ‘the Son of the Most High’ without knowing man, by the power of the Holy Spirit, Mary responded with the obedience of faith, certain that ‘with God nothing will be impossible’: ‘Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord; let it be (done) to me according to your word.'[Luke 1:28-38 ; cf. Romans 1:5 .] Thus, giving her consent to God’s word, Mary becomes the mother of Jesus. Espousing the divine will for salvation wholeheartedly, without a single sin to restrain her, she gave herself entirely to the person and to the work of her Son; she did so in order to serve the mystery of redemption with him and dependent on him, by God’s grace: [Cf. LG 56.] As St. Irenaeus says, ‘Being obedient she became the cause of salvation for herself and for the whole human race.’ [St. Irenaeus, Adv. haeres. 3, 22, 4: PG 7/1, 959A.] Hence not a few of the early Fathers gladly assert. . .: ‘The knot of Eve’s disobedience was untied by Mary’s obedience: what the virgin Eve bound through her disbelief, Mary loosened by her faith.’ [St. Irenaeus, Adv. haeres. 3, 22, 4: PG 7/1, 959A.] Comparing her with Eve, they call Mary ‘the Mother of the living’ and frequently claim: ‘Death through Eve, life through Mary.’ [LC 56; St. Epiphanius, Panarion 2, 78, 18: PG 42, 728CD-729AB; St. Jerome, Ep. 22, 21: PL 22, 408.]

    1. did mary ascend to heaven with her body of flesh

      This is a matter of faith and/or conjecture, depending on how you look at it. There is no indication in scripture that this did *not* happen, and equally no indication that it did.

      ok, so i was wrong. sue me for being human. im supposed to be too young to even worry abou this kind of stuff anyway. but, of course my argumentative side always gets the better of my calmer less worried abou the word side. i just want everyone to find salvation, so i can meet them all in heaven. it hurts me to see so many people turn away from God who is their only hope of true happiness. im not worried about you for turning away from the catholic church, sue, but i know i could never desert my people like that. i am a catholic. no questions, no strings attached. im just satisfied that you didnt turn from God entirely. then i would probably argue a bit more.:)

      1. mary didn’t ascend, she was assumed. i accidentally said the wrong thing. sorry.

        in Matthew 27:52-53 one can read about saints whose bodies left the grave after the Resurrection of Christ. The early resurrection of these saints anticipated the rising of those who die in faith, all of who will be assumed one day to receive their glorified bodies. Belief in the assumption of Mary is simply the belief that God granted her this gift early, as he appears to have done for others in Matthew 27:52-53.

        i’ve learned that saying mary was assumed is plainly saying her life anded. it does not say whether she entered heaven boy and soul or if she just simply died.

  10. Will you people ever realize that the dead are just that “DEAD” and they do not know anything, they will be dead until the return of Christ and the resurrection of the dead.

    Ecclesiastes 9:4
    For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion.

    Ecclesiastes 9:5
    For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

    Ecclesiastes 9:10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the grave, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom.

    1. Joseph,

      We have a spirit that lives on even after death. Ecclesiastes is about what life would be without God. Just read where you quoted Ecclesiastes 9:5 where it says the dead don’t have any more a reward, we know that there will be a reward one day.

      To the Catholics, as for Mary, the Bible does not say that Mary was born by immaculate conception. The Bible does not say that Mary ascended into heaven with her physical body.
      The Bible says not to add to God’s Word, nor subtract from it. When Jesus and the apostles spoke, God testified to what they said by signs, wonders and miracles (see Hebrews 2:4). There are no signs, wonders and miracles from God to testify to what the Popes add to the Bible centuries later.

      I hope this helps.
      ~So that you may know Him better~

  11. Hi. Yeshua is our only way to Gods Kingdom!
    She also was a sinner and she was humble enough to admit that she was a sinner that needed a savior.
    The Pope are realy wrong about this.

      1. Dear Dashti.


        You wrote:

        No she wasnt a sinner

        My reply:

        The spirit within you has made you a liar. You have been deceived. The Bible says all men have sinned, and fallen short of the Glory of God. To even suggest that a Jewish person have not sinned, is a grave insult. And it mock’s the World of God.

        Please do some studies of the Bible, who explains that the Mother of Jesus was a created human like all of us, not a pagan “goddess”.




  12. For ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God!…The pope was obviously referring to all of us who need to repent and abandon our sinful nature. That is EVERYONE!! ((including himself))

  13. Dashti:
    You said:
    i’ve learned that saying mary was assumed is plainly saying her life anded. it does not say whether she entered heaven boy and soul or if she just simply died.

    My comment:
    The catholic church says she was lifted up body and soul into heaven and that she never died.

  14. …you see they have to say that because sin is why all humans die in the flesh. Since they say Mary was sinless, then she doesn’t die physically.

      1. Adam and Eve were created by God, they do not have an earthly father nor an earthly mother, and they were born sinless.

        When Adam sinned by disobeying God and eating from the forbidden fruit—sin entered the world through this one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned. That is what the Bible says.

        The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation. By the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man.

        Now we know every human has an earthly mother and an earthly father. Mary had an earthly mother and earthly father. Death reigned even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam. But even a negative thought is a sin. Mary was a human and considered a sinner, even if she did not sin by breaking a command like that of Adam.
        That is just the way it is. Mary was fully human, and not divine. There is no scripture that says Mary, the mother of Jesus would be made alive through other means than humanly, by a man and woman.

        There is no scripture that says we must go through Mary to get to Jesus. That is a Catholic belief.
        The scriptures say that we hear the message of Jesus Christ, that we obey and believe, and we are reconciled to God through Jesus.

        All this other teachings from the Catholic Church is added scripture that goes against the Word of God.

  15. I will pray for all of you.
    Maybe some day we will both find the truth we have sought through blood and war and finally end this battle between religions. I only hope that that day comes before the end so that we may come to love eachother, as Jesus did want, for a while as humans before we leave this earth. Only then shall we love eachother as we were ment to, as angels of the Lord, being bathed in his eternal and o so powerful love. His love is so powerful that none can compare. Only then will we be fulfilled.

    Amen to you all, and Peace everlasting,


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