Ultra-Orthodox calls Messianic Jews for Hitler

Messianic Jews are no better than Hitler, explains the chief rabbi of Ashdod in Israel.

If Jesus had walked in Jerusalem today he would have called Ultra Orthodox Jews for " brood of wipers". If they do not repent, they will perish.

Last week a huge mob of ultra-Orthodox Jews surrounded a Messianic Jewish congregation in the southern coastal city of Ashdod and demonstrated against what they called “the missionary situation.”

The chief rabbi of Ashdod participated in the event, and reportedly told the one thousand or so protesters that Messianic Jews are no better than Hitler. Ultra-Orthodox extremists often complain that Messianic Jews are trying to destroy the Jewish people by turning them into “Christians.”

“The missionaries want a final solution to the Jews, in the name of the same cursed name that created Christianity (he meant Jesus). That is what Hitler wanted,” local Messianic leaders Simcha and Bella Davidov quoted the chief rabbi as telling the crowd.

The Davidovs also said that the anti-Messianic organization Yad L’Achim was there passing out hostile fliers that read:

“The goal of the Messianics is clear, they want to convert all of us Jews to Christianity and not leave any trace of the Jewish people. The Arabs want our Land, and they [the Messianic Jews] want our souls.”

Yad L’Achim said that it had received an increased number of complaints of “missionary activity” in Ashdod, and so decided it was time to take action.

Another local Messianic reportedly tried to argue against the distribution of literature that incites hatred against Jews who believe in Yeshua (Jesus), but was told by police that the demonstrators were not doing anything illegal. Tellingly, the police take firm action against fringe Jewish settler groups that distribute literature inciting violence against Palestinian Arabs.

Another demonstration against Messianic Jews was scheduled to take place in the small Negev town of Arad on Tuesday, March 1. That demonstration is an annual event, and regularly attracts the participation of most of Arad’s sizable Orthodox community.

Source: Israeli Magazine, Israel Today.

My comment:

Evangelical Friends of Israel who do not call the Jewish state to repentance, have sold their souls.  Because 70 per cent of the Jews are secular, and 20 per cent are religious. Only a fragment of the Jews believe Yeshua is the Messiah.

The Messiah called many of his fellow Jews for “sons of Hell”.  They are still among us today, and plenty of them is found in the camp of the Ultra Orthodox Jews.

Matthew 23:33
“You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Only Jews turned Messianic will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who have accepted Yeshua as Lord and Savior. The rest of the Jews will die in their sins, and perish.

1 John 3:10
This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.

The good news is that not a single Jew have to end up in Hell. Their own Messiah has paid for their sins with His own blood.  All they have to do is to turn to Him, and beg for His mercy.

At the very end, Jesus the Messiah will return and save Israel. All internal and external enemies of the Word of God will perish.

Written by Ivar

73 thoughts on “Ultra-Orthodox calls Messianic Jews for Hitler

  1. if the Ultra-Orthodox would believe MOSES AND THE PROPHETS they would KNOW Yeshua Jesus is The Christ! Many of them Pray that the jewish Believer’s names to taken out of The Book of Life. Please Pray that many of the Ulta-Orthodox turn from unbelief and BELIEVE so they will be Written in The Book of Life. Amen

    1. Dear Gloria J.

      Shalom, and love in Yeshua.

      I support that prayer. What 2 or 3 agree up on shall be done, by Jesus of Nazareth. We just have to trust that this is the will of King Messiah. Amen.

      1. that is the Will of G-D Ivar, HE wants all to come to Repentance…but the very very sad part is, that not all think they need to be Saved. If they don’t Repent they will never see The Kingdom of G-D. “There go i if it were not for Mercy and Grace on my Soul”. May we never forget! We all deserve hell “BUT G-D” left Heaven to save a sinner like me.

  2. Ivar,

    This statement of yours stood out to me:

    Only Jews turned Messianic will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who have accepted Yeshua as Lord and Savior. The rest of the Jews will die in their sins, and perish.

    So let me ask you something: do you believe that the Jews who were murdered in the holocaust are now in hell? I’m particularly interested to know what you think happened to the vast majority of them, who didn’t accept Jesus as Lord/Savior/Messiah.

    1. Dear Anastasis.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      The Holocaust is the biggest trauma ever of the Jewish people. Many Jews refuse to believe in a God, that left six million of His own chosen people in the gas chambers.

      My reply is: God permitted the Holocaust to happen. Out of the Holocaust came the state of Israel, and the final end time game on Earth could start.

      What people did inside the gas chambers in their final minutes, is a matter between Jesus and them. Millions of Jewish children were taken by Him to Heaven. As A Pentecostal Christian I believe that all children are covered by mercy and grace.

      In regards to the adults:

      Like in the desert of Sinai, they were a mixed crowed. Many Jews might not have repented in their last hour, and perished. But there were surely Jews who cried out for the Messiah to appear. And when they saw Jesus, they asked Him to have mercy on their soul. He took their souls with Him to Heaven.

      First when we enter the Kingdom of Heaven, we will come to know. So let us leave it like this. You have a chose today to accept Jesus as Master and Savior. So do not wait. This might be your last day.

      1. Ivar, you’ve contradicted yourself.

        You just said that God’s mercy and grace covered millions of Jewish children and He took them to heaven. That’s completely different to your earlier statement that “Only Jews turned Messianic will enter the Kingdom of Heaven”.

        I’d like to explore this a bit more. My next question is: in your theology, at what point does someone cease to be a child in God’s eyes?

      2. Anastasis,

        How did Ivar contradict himself: He said “Only Jews turned Messianic will enter the Kingdom of Heaven”.

        He was not speaking of children.

        Ivar is correct. Every child under the age of accoutantibility, if they die they enter the kingdom of heaven. I know of a 2 year old child who died. Surely, he is in heaven with Our Savior Jesus Christ.

        Matthew 18
        At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?” And calling to him a child, he put him in the midst of them and said, “Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

        Gloria

      3. In the concentration camps there were Christians also. For example, Corrie Ten Boom and her sister were in the Ravensbruck and Vught camps. Here is a quote from an article I ran across.

        http://roshpinaproject.com/2010/09/01/hitler-the-church-and-messianic-jews/

        “In 1933 a Nazi ban on Jews in the civil service inspired Nazi churchmen to purge German pulpits of Jewish Christians and those whose parent’s grandparents, great-grandparents were Jewish Christians. So-called Christian ministers betrayed their Jewish brothers in Jesus to the Nazi regime.”

        I imagine in those camps there was a lot of soul searching going on and many opportunities for believers to witness. Sometimes people need to be brought to the gates of death.

        Psa 107:17 Fools because of their transgression, and because of their iniquities, are afflicted.
        Psa 107:18 Their soul abhorreth all manner of meat; and they draw near unto the gates of death.
        Psa 107:19 Then they cry unto the LORD in their trouble, and he saveth them out of their distresses.
        Psa 107:20 He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.
        Psa 107:21 Oh that men would praise the LORD for his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of men!

      4. Ivar, so you believe that anyone who does not submit to Christian belief, regardless of how good a person they are, gets tortured for eternity in their afterlife?
        How about the victims of the Holocaust? Most of them were too busy getting massacred to even consider accepting another religion. Most of them were good Jews, regardless of what they believed in. And you still place your religious convictions over respecting these people? You’re just plain sick! To be honest, I’m not surprised that you would think such things, as it’s in that horrid New Testament of yours. Worse still, you discredit the victims by offering false info, purely based on assumption, about their fates.

      5. Dear Ephraim Ben-David

        Shalom, and love in Jesus.

        Welcome to this site.

        I guess you believe in the Torrah. Please answere me: Were some of the Jews in the Torrah punished by Elohim (God of Israel)? If so: Please tell me why? Next, I will answer your questions.

  3. This the whole problem with so called believers that do not take Gods word seriously when He states that He is the Saviour of ALL, especially of believers.(1Tim4:10)

    The doctrin of ‘hell’ is a demonic teaching.
    Can you imagine a father would would throw his own child in an oven to suffer pain for ever and ever?
    Christians do beliece in such a Father. And the call it ‘love’ and ‘good’. And wow they all here feel so much better than jews, chatholics and pornwatchers! And that just because of GRACE that they did not deserve? Where is the grace here???
    The church is a black peace of marble: polished on the outside but dead dead dead on the inside.

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L60jrVB9K8

    1. Polleke,

      What book are you reading from? Because it surely isn’t the Word of God. Hell is stated several times in the Bible. God will not have a murderer, a prostitute, or even a man/woman that’s never comitted a crime in heaven, unless they REPENT and BELIEVE IN HIM.

      John 8:24 says: I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am [the one I claim to be], you will indeed die in your sins.

      Matthew 10:28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

      Pick up the Holy Word of God and repent, and believe in Him.

      1. Oh yeah right! Like a human being could make himself believing..
        Isn’t that a GIFT from God??

        read Ephesians 2:8-9!

      2. The free gift of Jesus is salvation.

        You have to choose to believe in Jesus.

        Surely Jesus Christ does not force you or anyone to believe in him.

    2. i’m going to say this as nicely as i can: “a convert to christianity that has not been Discipled = 0!”. my advice to you is GET A BIBLE and read it! and stay away from Rick Joyner, Joyce Myers, Rick Warren and his Purpose Driven Heretics, Bill Hybels, Brian McClarion…the list goes on.

      1. Dear Gloria J.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        i’m going to say this as nicely as i can: “a convert to christianity that has not been Discipled = 0!”

        My reply:

        I do not agree with you. We are not under the Law, but under grace.

        John 17:20
        [ Jesus Prays for All Believers ] “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message.

        There are a lot of people who believe in Jesus, that are not as bold as the Apostles, or disciples if your rather wants to use this term. And salvation is not measured in the amount of discipleship. Man shall live by faith alone, in Jesus alone, separated from works.

        Heaven will be populated by people who beg Jesus to have mercy on their soul. Man is not justified by any good work. Man in justified by what Jesus has done for us, alone.

      2. Gloria J,

        Some people have been lured into deception by these false preachers, even so, they have love for Him. They are still drinking milk..with a little poison added to the mix. This website is here to expose false teachings and hopefully open some people’s eyes. By gently speaking in love to those who are caught up in Purpose Driven Gospel is the way to go. Don’t condemn them, love them.
        Blessings.
        Sue

      3. If you don’t know what these apostates and Deceivers teach you would not have said that they love HIM! They are enemys of the Cross of Christ! Do i hate them NO, do i hate Satan, these people are being used by the “god” of this world, Satan. They have been suduced, because they do not LOVE The Knowledge of “The Truth!” my LORD and my G-D.

      4. we are not under the Law of Moses WE are Under The Law of Christ. For you to say that we are not under law would mean that “You are Lawless!”. While LAWLESSNESS is proliferateing around the world, are you saying you are Lawless “G-D Forbid!” The LORD Said “Make Disciples” John 8:31 “If you continue in my word, then are you my disciples indeed; and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

      5. Dear Gloria J.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        We are not under the Law of Moses WE are Under The Law of Christ.

        My reply:

        Paul explains that “The Law of Christ” is that a man can no longer be justified by observing the law. In fact, Man never has. Man shall live by Faith. Abraham was born before the Law of Moses was given. If any man was justified by works, Abraham had something to boast about. But He could not. He was a sinner, saved by grace. Saved by grace, alone.

  4. Gloria,

    Jesus only spoke about ‘gehenna’ which is the valley of Hinnom, near Jerusalem!

    “For it was the good pleasure [of the Father] that in him should all the fulness dwell; and through him to reconcile ALL things unto himself, having made peace through the blood of his cross; through him, [I say], whether things upon the earth, or things in the heavens.” Col1:19-20

    1. No. Jesus did not speak about ‘gehenna’ near Jerusalem.

      You are twisting the Words of God into your meaning.

      Matthew 25:46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

      Jesus Christ is pretty clear about hell, and it isn’t a place anyone wants to end up. That is why Christ died for our sins, and rose and lives. He is coming, so repent and change your way of thinking.

  5. Romans 5:18
    “For as through the one man’s disobedience ALL were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the one shall ALL be made righteous.”

    That is what the real work of Christ entails and Gods plan FROM THE VERY BEGINNING envisions!

    1. Polleke,

      It can’t get any clearer than this:

      Luke 16:23-24 In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’

  6. So Gloria,
    eternal?? How can flesh burn eternally?
    And what aboit those worms? What the…did they do wrong that they have to be in hell?
    And how can they eat the flesh when it is burning?
    And stil then there must be a pint when they have ran out of flesh?
    How can worms even burn when they consist for 90% of water?

    mmm.
    maybe the word that is used here is not ‘eternal’ but ‘aionos’?

    Get a good original copy with Strong numbers.

    Jezus ONLY did mention the word ‘gehenna’.

    You are in denial. Grow up! As a believer I mean.

    1. Polleke,

      I’m not going to sit here and continue to debate with you. You clearly do not follow the Word of God, and follow doctrines made up by men.

      Read the Word of God, then you will find out how those who not repent, where they will go to eternity.

      (1) Hell was designed originally for Satan and his demons (Matthew 25:41; Revelation 20:10).

      (2) Hell will also punish the sin of those who reject Christ (Matthew 13:41,50; Revelation 20:11-15; 21:8).

      (3) Hell is conscious torment.

      •Matthew 13:50 “furnace of fire…weeping and gnashing of teeth”
      •Mark 9:48 “where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched”
      •Revelation 14:10 “he will be tormented with fire and brimstone”

      1. So what did the worms do to end up in hell? And how come they can stand that fire, consisting 90% of water?

        Aren’t you mistaking the Valley of Hinnom with the Lake of fire, and eternal with ‘of the eon’?

      2. Dear Polleke

        Shalom.

        Its is pointless having this debate about eternal Hell all over again. This is another circle debate that will not take us anywhere. Please go to other sites.

  7. Gloria,

    There is TOTALY NOTHING free in YOUR gospel.
    Because you have to do something FIRST.
    That is no grace, nor mercy. That is payment and hard work!
    Besides that it is perpendicular to the real gospel.

    But as I already stated: the church nowadays has many, many false teaching: demonic and hopeless!

    1. The only gospel I have is the Jesus Christ gospel.

      Read it. Christ offers free gift of salvation.

      Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

  8. You are not reading what I am stating.
    So say it is for free but is NOT.

    If a restaurant says you can have a free meal but first you have to wash all the dishes, is it free then?

    1. When one is saved by grace, what you describe as “work”, is simply not.

      “For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.” (Ephesians 2:10)

      You do not work for your salvation, you recieve it in order to do good deeds.

      1. Dear Steve

        Shalom.

        Thanks for this comment. I guess I do good things for Jesus all day long. But I do not keep a record of such work. I do not need to. I am already saved. Saved by mercy and grace alone. When I do the Gospel, miracles, signs and wonders seems to happen by them selves. Jesus has put his fingerprints on the things we do together. Such fingerprints will follow in the footsteps, of those who follow Jesus of Nazareth.

      2. Amen, Ivar. When we are under grace, we really see Jesus work in everything around us, as well as in us.

  9. Jews whom follow their/our messiah are still jewish, they’re not christian. Anyway what are this lot going on about? It was jews who protelised to us gentiles and told us about their Messiah, why can’t we return the favour?

  10. Amen, Tom. Let’s return the favor. I think saying Jews that follow Jesus are not “Christian” can be confusing and we’re getting into semantics.
    To be ‘Christian’ to a Jew is to be like Roman Catholic I imagine..who persecuted Jewish believers.
    I don’t think Messianic Jews want to be called ‘Christian’ either, but I am not sure. I would love to hear a Messianic Jew’s take on this.
    I think Gloria J. is Jewish. Gloria, what is your take on that?
    Sue

    1. Greetings

      Well, If one is a believer, a true believer, one is neither Jew or Gentile, Paul clearly taught us this in Eph 2 and Romans chapters 8,9,10,11 We all become part of the common wealth of Israel, not a religion….. Roman Catholic beliefs had not been invented yet and Paul certainly had no designs on creating another religion/theology….. simply giving the “Good News” to those who were outside the only true and singular covenant of salvation, that which YHWH made with the children of Abraham, Issac and Jacov….. or Israel….. we become a united Israel….. the only people Our Creator has ever claimed his own. The “Church” never replaced Israel, this is called replacement theology. The “Church” is a franchisable invention started by Constantine to salvage his empire. Any “ism” is a schism, so said Paul. and So it is….. the Torah, is not a religion, it is the way, the truth and the life, just as Messiah said He was…… this is not religious, not of man, for man did not speak the words Moshe wrote down, Our loving Creator did. So, we should all listen and learn and be convicted.

      Blessings

      1. Dear Believer

        Shalom.

        The Church has not replaced Israel. The Church has enlarged Israel. God of the Bible has not given all the promises meant to Israel to the Church, He has let the Church participate in these promises.

        Galatians 6:15-16
        Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation. Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule—to the Israel of God.

        This new creation, is a new creation in the Messiah. It is a body that includes believing Jews and grafted gentiles.

    2. Before the word “christain” was used the “Followers of Yeshua Jesus were called the people of “The Way”. Because so many are worshiping another Jesus and not the ONE in The Bible i rather call myself a Bible Believer, for HE has given me the Grace continually to understand that this world is not a friend of Christ or the True Followers of HIM, that The Father has sent.

      1. Nice one Gloria, They were Jewish and followers of ‘the way’ as you said until the time of acts 11 in antioch, I’m not keen on the term christian these days as it has so many on the bandwagon, i prefer bible believing christian or follower of Jesus Christ, the term christian now seems to mean anything but the true meaning.

      2. Dear Tom.

        Shalom.

        I am a Christian. Will always be a Christian. But the word “Christ” is a foreign word to the Hebrews. Its a translated word for the “Messiah”, or the anointed one. I am also a believer, and will always be a believer. But a believer in Jesus. I am also a follower of Jesus, and will always be a follower of Jesus. He is my Master, and my best friend, and I obey Him. I follow His teachings and instructions.I do not deserve to be saved by Him. But I am saved. Saved by mercy and grace alone.

  11. Gloria J,

    Of course I know what they teach, Gloria. And do you not think it grieves me to know that fellow believers are caught in webs of lies?
    We must be careful not to paint ourselves as “good” because we know, and them “bad” because they don’t.
    For the grace of God you are aware.

  12. Here is the truth. If your neshama is Jewish, if you are a Jew, and happy, you will remain a Jew. No amount of missionising from Muslims or christians or any other religion will convert you.

    I could be confronted by 1000 missionisers, trying to convert me. I will always be Jewish. Simple.

    1. Dear Ambrosine Shitrit.

      Shalom, and welcome to my Jewish sister.

      You wrote:

      I could be confronted by 1000 missionisers, trying to convert me. I will always be Jewish. Simple.

      My reply:

      Yeshua the Messiah was also 100 per cent Jewish. What makes Him different from you?

      1. Dear Ambrosine,

        And I would add to what Ivar has written that all of the Apostles–the founders of His Church–were 100% Jewish, as well. The Apostle Paul was quite learned in the Jewish Law–a student of Gemaliel. Gemaliel, by the way, gave an interesting prediction in the Book of Acts–saying that if the movement begun by the Apostles was not from G-d, it would fade away (because of the death of their so-called “Messiah”) like all the other “Messianic” movements started in that day. (And Gemaliel was right in that–does anyone really speak of Rabbi Schneerson anymore?) But Gemaliel must have had some kind of movement of G-d’s Spirit inspiring him to continue that, if the new movement was of G-d, it would not be possible to stop it. And so it was not–despite “dungeon, fire and sword.” Sixty-eight million Christians have been martyred to date and yet the Church–the Bride of Yeshua–remains. But He may be planning to take us home very soon. I will pray that you investigate Messiah’s claims and draw near to Him while there is still time to be part of His Bride.

  13. The Jews were the first monotheistic religion. Belief in one G-d, one inseparable G-d. Not some invented trinity. Christianity started as a Jewish sect that eventually became disgruntled with being responsible for their own actions and leading a Torah observant life that they forrmed a completely new and somewhat idolatary religion. According to the Torah (Deut 12:31 Deut 18:10), G-d outlawed human sacrifice. Christianty built its entire religion around a human sacrifice. Christians worship a dead Jew. God is not man nor will he ever be. Jesus did not fulfill a single messianic prophesy. (Yes, I am aware of the 90+ claims and when you take those little snipets and read them in the contexts of the entire chapter or narrative that they are part of you will see they are not prophecies at all.)

    While I feel a lot of what Joshua ben Joseph of Nazareth taught (this is the real English translation of his name) was profound, he taught nothing new. He used parables to teach lessons in the Torah. In fact, if he were alive today he would be far more comfortable in a Jewish synagogue or shul then is a church.

    An Atheist friend of mine, who leads a very pious and charitable life by the way and is not at risk of going to a make believed pagan influenced hell (ref: Dante’s inferno), told me he thought it was humorous that Christians try to use the New Testament to prove their case to non-believers. Do you guys realize you prove nothing to someone who doesn’t believe your religion to be true by using your writings? Its a lot like using a comic book to prove the existence of Superman.

    I grew up a Christian, went to church every week, sang in the choir, was an altar boy (not molested, whew!), and in high school I was a camp counselor for VBS (4 years in a row). As I grew up I began to doubt what I had been taught. To make a long story short I decided to task myself with reading the entire Bible – from cover to cover. I did this 3 times in one year using the NIV, ESV, and the KJV. The result – I boxed those Bibles up (they contain the Torah which means they are worthy of reverence and respect and can’t be thrown in the trash) bought a JPS Tanakh and am in the process of converting to Judaism.

    Why? Deeds over creeds. We are all accountable for our own actions and should lead a just and righteous life. We can not cop out of our own inquities by passing the blame and burden on to someone else. We were given a soul, free-will, and reason. We are not puppets, not subject to some ridiculous predestination nonsense and above all else we are accountable for what we do and no one else.

    The entire law can be summed up as follows:

    Love God. Love your neighbor.

    Everything else is commentary.

    Shalom my friends.

  14. I am a Guest and wish to open the shutters and let in the glorious light of Truth along with delicious fresh air of the Ruach HaKodesh.

    This should clear everything up: ” as far as the Gospel is concerned, the Jews are ‘enemies’.. but as far as Election is concerned, they are loved on account of the Patriarchs.. because..
    the gifts and the calling of God are IRREVOCABLE.” Father Yah
    does not break His promises. They are a Covenant forever!

    When the Jews see Moshiach coming … they will look upon Me..
    the One they have pierced.. and mourn for Him… as for an only child.. and grieve as for a firstborn son!

    We will see Him… recognize Him… grieve… and a fountain will be opened to us for cleansing.. and voila! Life begins with Yeshua
    as our Shepherd.

    Davida

    1. Dear Davida

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      You are not a guest. You are my sister or brother.

      Its not easy to see the difference between male and female Jews, for us who are not Jewish, but have been grafted.

    2. Tamudic Judaism is not the Judaism of Moses and the Prophets. If the Jews believed Moses and the Prophets they would know that Yeshua is The KING and LORD G-D. And the enemy is Satan not the Jews. If it were not for “The Jew Yeshua” that came from Heaven to die on the Tree and be raised from the dead i would be going to hell…and so would you. Not Believing in Yeshua is not the problem “it is the result for the problem” set a Trumpet to your mouth and warn your people “it is not happy new year!” The New Year is in the Spring, NOT in the Fall! i’ll celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles when my LORD Yeshua Returns…don’t trust in this world

  15. Shalom Mischpoocha (Hello Family)

    I am a Messianic Jew. I was born and raised Jewish and accepted Yeshua HaMashiach (Jesus Messiah) as my Savior. To answer some questions about Messianic Jews, we are not Christians. The blood of my tribe flows through my veins and I will always be Jewish by blood, culture and faith however, I am now COMPLETED. It is VERY Jewish to believe in a Jewish Messiah. And since Yeshua was a Jew, why would I call myself anything else but a Jew.

    Gloria, you are right in that Talmudic (you forgot the L) is not Biblical Judaism. The Talmud are full of Rabbinical teachings, answers, stories and dogma. Judaism of Moses and the Prophets are Torah abiding Jews or Biblical Jews.

    For everyone else, the Holocaust is what made a lot of Jews turn their backs on God however, many of them came to the Lord because of it. For Jews, you are a CHILD up until the age of “consent”, 12 for a girl and 13 for a boy. So they would have been taken to Heaven. Then their are those who are Jewish and lived in Jewish communities and they never heard of Yeshua, they too were taken to Heaven.

    And actually Judaism wasn’t the first monotheistic faith, Zoroastrianism was. It came out of the Middle East and disappeared very quickly. Anyway…

    Finally, to speak about the Law. Yes, we are cleansed by the blood of Yeshua and are saved through His Grace however, the Law is NOT null and void. Matthew 5:17. Even though we are sinners and that is what our flesh does we must still strive to NOT sin and what tells us or shows us what a sin is? The Law. Are we judged by the Law, no, but we must still strive to live an acceptable life. The Law shows us what we should and should not do, if we fail, we have Yeshua’s Love and Grace to save us. But we still must TRY!

    Kelli

    1. Yes you are correct that Zoraster believed that there is a monotheistic god, but to say they were the first to believe in a Monothesisic GOD is wrong. Judaism of Moses was the FIRST! And Judaism of Moses was fulfilled in Yahweh! There are many that call themselves christain(the way)and are on their way to Babylon Rome! Do you know the meaning of Shavuot? You are building a wall that Yeshua torn down! When a child turns 12-13 they are to form a relationship with Yeshua G-D by reading and understand HIS Word by SOUND Teaches and Preachers and G-D fearing parents. You can only protect your children so far, then it is up to them, parents are still to protect their children from deceivers, and parents are to stay Alert so they too will not be deceived! Many in the OT believed by FAITH that THE Messiah will come and they went to be with The LORD by Faith. The unbelieving jew will be judged by the Law that they cannot keep, and that also goes for the gentile. ALL have a conscience that there is The Holy G-D…Creation declares it, no one is without excuse. Everyone can know G-D if they TRULY know they are sinners that need to STOP doing things their way, and turn to The ONE that knows best, for HE created them so they WOULD NOT go to HELL. May my LORD G-D give Grace and Mercy like HE did me, to many…to the Jew First, because from the jewish people (Abraham,Moses and the Prophets) came The Messiah. Amen

  16. The Jewish Messiah will be human as opposed to a pagan product of virgin and G_d. The Messiah will come and bring peace to the world. Imagine a world without jealousy or hatred! Clearly this has not happened. Be patient and don’t be so quick to agree when someone says G_d can “become flesh.” The guarantee of eternal life can only come through reading the Torah. The notion of a second chance where this is concerned, is not a part of Judaism. All Christians reject the idea of a “Jesus” when asked to actually think about it. Forgiveness of sins is not a result of death but taking responsibility for your own actions. Christians Against Christ would be a more appropriate name instead of Jews for Jesus – which is folly at best. This idolatry is a sin: change your ways and seek G_d’s forgiveness for joining a cult!

    1. Dear Gus.

      Sabbath Shalom.

      You wrote:

      Be patient and don’t be so quick to agree when someone says G_d can “become flesh.”

      My reply:

      It is interesting that you can tell God what He can do, and what He cant not do.

      If God want to come to Earth in the form of a Human, do you have the power and authority to stop Him?

    2. Gus,

      You are in grave peril of accepting the Anti-messiah when he comes–and he may be coming soon.

      The Jewish Messiah has already come as prophet and priest–as the holy Lamb of G-d– and He is coming again to take His throne as Righteous King.

      You should investigate the ancient teachings of Israel and Judah for yourself–read your own Tanakh. The prophets believed that the Messiah would, in fact, be G-d in human flesh. Read Isaiah 53 with your eyes open. Today’s rabbis claim that Isaiah 53 is about Israel. However, it is quite clear that an individual is being spoken of. Then read Isaiah 9:1-7 and understand that as a picture of Messiah coming to reign as the Righteous King. I can tell you more, but this is enough for now if you will read it with an open mind and heart. Pray about it–if you really want to know the truth, G-d will show it to you. I will pray for you.

      1. i too Ellen have just prayed to G-D our Father in the Name of Yeshua that Gus will believe Moses and the Prophets, if the jews would believe Moses and the Prophets they would know that Yeshua is The KING of KINGS and the LORD of LORDS. HE came the first time like Joseph, His own brothers did not know who he was, the next time He comes He will be like King David, but His (Yeshua’s) Kingdom will NEVER end. ONE Messiah two commings! He is comming back! “Praise The LORD G-D of Abraham, Issac and Jacob” Amen

  17. Shalom, My goodness, these opinions are sure to confuse the most faithful! God is God and He can do anything He wants. Can the clay question the Potter? Clearly God is love and He cares for His creation and wants them to be with Him for all eternity. Can we please Him by keeping the laws? I doubt it because we are humans with failings of all sorts. I believe He sent His Son to die for the sins of humanity, of course we have to also live by our convictions, hence comes the Holy Spirit. The Trinity is just a concept, it’s the 3 facets of God. Blessings to all who are believers both Jews and Gentiles.

  18. I agree with most of what you have said, Virginia. We cannot be granted eternal life without faith. Grace through faith has always been the basis for salvation—both among Old Covenant saints (believers) and New Testament saints. Abraham believed and trusted God and God declared Abraham righteous because of his faith (see Gen. 15:6). The Book of Hebrews tells of the importance of faith in the lives of the Old Covenant saints. (Hebrews 11) It is their faith that saved them. Faith is a necessary pre-condition for pleasing God. Hebrews 11:6 says, “And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.” But we definitely cannot “earn” our way into heaven. Righteousness that does not originate in faith is self-righteousness–and self-righteousness is “like filthy rags” to God. Again, we are saved by our faith–not by our works. The “Thief on the Cross” had no time to do good works but his faith saved him—he was that day taken to Paradise.

    However, when we obey God the Father and His Son, it is a sign that we believe God and that we love Him. It is that love that transforms us into a new person–one who is “born from on high”. Faith that does not result in good works, is not faith at all. (James 2:17) Obedience is not difficult for those who truly love God. When we come into a loving relationship with Him, we are given the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit who helps us to obey. Jesus said that, if we love Him, we will obey Him–obedience flows out of our love for Him. Jesus also said that all of the Law and Prophets are summed up in “You shall love the Lord, your God…”

    God is pleased when we obey Him and is displeased when we disobey. Sin is disobedience. The Law was given to show us what comprises disobedience/sin. Sometimes the disobedience is so bad that God punishes, as was the case with the Israelites when they were sent into exile from the Beautiful Land. But it is kind of a moot point as it is likely that there was little if any faith in those who sinned so egregiously. However, there were some who were strong in faith—like King David who the Bible says, “…was a man after God’s heart”—and yet who sinned terribly in his sin with Bathsheba and his murder of her husband, Uriah. God punished David and David was brought to repentance. God forgave David, just as He forgives us when we confess our sin to Him and turn away from it.

    But Christians have a “helper” in the Holy Spirit. It is doubtful that one who truly has faith in Christ and has the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit, would ever fall into such serious sin as did David. The Greek word pistus is the word that is used for “believe” in the New Testament. It carries with it the understanding not only of “intellectual assent” but it also carries the meaning of “obedience”. James 2:19 tells us that even the demons acknowledge that God is God–mere “intellectual assent” is NOT saving faith. You can know all manner of intellectual theology and yet not be saved.

    You all probably know these things but sometimes Christians have been confused by those who concentrate on grace to the exclusion of the Law. In the early days of the Church, there were those (especially in Rome) who were saying that those who were under grace could sin as much as they wanted—that, in fact, it was good to sin so that grace would abound! The Apostle Paul firmly put that notion to rout when he said, “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life. ” (Romans 6:1-4) If we are truly in Christ, we will come to loathe our sin.

  19. A challenge to all xns: if you are interested in the truth, please learn the Tenach in Hebrew with Hebrew commentaries. Your writings are based on layers of translation and mistranslation, from Greek to Latin to English. So you really don’t know what the Tenach says at all.

    With respect to missionaries: they are the lowest of the low, with no underhand means to try to convert us Jews beneath them. What they call missionising is in fact harassment of the most vulnerable people in society, and it will soon be made illegal in Israel.

  20. ”I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you” I am a Christian and I know that salvation is of the Jew first and also of the Gentile, who is going to hell or who isn’t – is The Creator’s business not mine. I will continue to pray for Israel as commanded in Numbers 6. Leave the deep things of Hashem to Him coz judging one another on what you do not know will not add value to anyone. When one truly has an encounter or experiences Jesus he cannot argue but prays instead coz truth is truth and is unchangeable…
    Yeshua is Lord

  21. I respect all religions. But Judaism is real, and it existed LONG before Jesus especially since he practiced it until his first disobey. I despise the Jews who do garbage like this, and I assure you 90% of Jews are not extremists like them. But for all you rude people commenting what you are saying is garbage, no Jew will go to hell simply for not believing in Jesus. Plus there is scientific proof of most miracles in Judaism unlike Christianity.

  22. All you people! Jews, Messianic Jews and Gentiles do you think Hashem created you and let your souls come down to earth just for arguing, Even more worse you argue about Him. His sun rises on the wicked and also on the good but who are you to judge one another?
    Yes salvation is of the Jew first and also for the Gentile, dear Jews would you not be better people if you spent more time on soul searching to attain tikun & teshuva hence getting even closer to The Creator? Remember all things come from Hashem. Christian brothers has the gospel not taught you about casting down every argument? Not to judge one another? Not to touch the apple of His eye? By touching Jews, are you not asking for a curse? Yes you are cursing with your mouth when you tell people that they are going to hell… are you God? People, it is the Holy Spirit that converts people not self righteousness & your limited earthly knowledge

  23. this Messy-onic thing…thats what got you in trouble in Spain. Be a Jew, or be a Christain. attempt to be both and youre luke-warm vomit.

  24. Anyone who is really hungry for the truth will read the scriptures (Tanakh, and the BC (New Testament))
    There is no distinction in the first century between Jews and Christians. The most Jewish thing to do is to accept the Jewish Messiah, Yeshua. There is not one verse in the New Testament that even implies that a Jew has to repent from Judaism in order to become a Christian. This distinction wasn’t even made in the first century. It wasn’t until later, when Christianity became corrupt, that Christians started separating themselves from Judaism.

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