Guesthouse owners fined for banning homo-sex

A judge ruled that Christian hotelier Hazelmary Bull acted unlawfully when they refused a gay couple a double room at their hotel.

A judge has sided with a gay couple who were refused a double room at a Christian guesthouse.

Martyn Hall and Steven Preddy booked a double room at the Chymorvah guesthouse in Cornwall, United Kingdom, in September 2008 but were turned away upon arrival when staff realized the booking had not been made for a heterosexual married couple.

Guesthouse owners Peter and Hazelmary Bull have implemented a policy of allowing only heterosexual married couples to stay in their double rooms since they opened the guesthouse, also the family home, in 1986 and the guesthouse website gives notice of the policy on its booking page.

They were sued by civil partners Preddy and Hall on the grounds that the policy discriminated against them under the Equality Act.

The Bulls had received a letter from gay rights group Stonewall a month earlier informing them about equality legislation, prompting suspicions that they were deliberately targeted.

The Bulls must now pay Preddy and Hall £3,600 (around $5757) in damages.

The judge granted the Bulls leave to appeal, noting that his ruling “does affect the human rights of the defendants to manifest their religion and forces them to act in a manner contrary to their deeply and genuinely held beliefs”.

Responding to the ruling, Hazelmary Bull said: “We are obviously disappointed with the result. Our double-bed policy was based on our sincere beliefs about marriage, not hostility to anybody. It was applied equally and consistently to unmarried heterosexual couples and homosexual couples, as the judge accepted.

“We are trying to live and work in accordance with our Christian faith,” she added. “As a result we have been sued and ordered to pay £3,600. But many Christians have given us gifts, so thanks to them we will be able to pay the damages.”

Source: Christian Post

My Comment:

The primary view of the world is that homosexuality is “about love,” and should be accepted. With the United States laws backing same sex partners, lawsuits like this will become more prevalent.

In my opinion, I agree with what guest owners did, especially with the fact that in addition to being a hotel, this is also the owner’s home. The guesthouse website stated upfront they only accepted heterosexual couples, but these two men still tried to book a room, probably knowing they would be rejected. Seems like a setup to me, and that  the Christian owners were targeted.

The Word of God is exact when it comes to what Christ Our Savior considers a sin. If He considered it a sin in the book of Genesis, and is listed several times throughout God’s Word, then it’s still a sin today. And among the sins listed, homosexuality is one of them.

Leviticus 20:13

“If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination.”

Paul reiterates that this is a sin.

Romans 1:26-27

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.”

If you do not repent and continue to sin, the bible is clear where sinners are to spend eternity. But while there is still breath in you, there is still chance that you can accept Christ as your Savior. The Word of God says that every knee shall bow and confess to God.

Romans 14:11

It is written: “‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, ‘every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God.'”

Written by: Gloria

30 thoughts on “Guesthouse owners fined for banning homo-sex

  1. There’s no reason to believe that this was a setup–the Bulls don’t seem to have good out of their way to advertise their policy and it’s entirely believable that Mr Preddy and Mr Hall had no idea about it. They were certainly not told upon booking that double beds were reserved for married couples.

    But suppose they had been aware–they would still be in the right. They are in a civil partnership, and that is legally identical to marriage in the UK. If the Bulls treated them differently than they would have treated a married couple, there is a prima facie case of unlawful discrimination on grounds of sexuality.

    1. Tony,

      The article above says “the guesthouse website gives notice of the policy on its booking page.”

      If Mr. Preddy and Mr. Hall booked a hotel: why wouldn’t they read the hotel’s policy on it’s booking page? I’d read it, if I were to book something as important as a hotel in advance.

      It’s entirely possible that this was a “set up” from their end, especially when the Bulls had received a letter from a gay rights group a month before.

      And I don’t think Mr. Preddy and Mr. Hall are right at all. I think the Christian couple have every right to live in accordance with God’s Word.

      God’s judgment is coming, whether you believe it or not. The Word of God says:

      John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

      If Mr. Preddy and Mr. Hall do not repent, and not only them-all who continue to ignore God’s Word and live in sin, the Bible is clear on what will happen.

      God Bless.

      Gloria

  2. Just suppose your suspicion is correct and it was a set up. You clearly recognise that the Bulls had publicly announced their intention to discriminate. On the other hand Messrs Preddy and Hall gave them every opportunity to comply with the law. The Bulls were not induced or entrapped into acting unlawfully; they merely carried out their avowed intentions.

    We are all entitled to hold religious beliefs, but such beliefs however strongly held do not bestow the right to treat people unequally in business.

    If as you believe, these gay men are bound for hell, why also make their lives on earth miserable? Why should a Muslim not mistreat you because of his beliefs, or an atheist? Surely a civil society should not allow that.

    1. Dear Tony.

      Shalom.

      You wrote:

      If as you believe, these gay men are bound for hell, why also make their lives on earth miserable?

      My reply:

      Gay men make their own life miserable. By having perverted sex, they inflict them self with fatal sicknesses. Like AIDS. They should not be allowed to make other people life miserable too.

      There are surely other sexual perverts, that should not be allowed to make other peoples life miserable. Like pedophiles. I am sure they love to have sex with children, and would like to do so in any given guesthouse.

      People must be allowed to keep their doors locked for perverts. Like Lot did in Sodom and Gomorrah. If not, we will all burn in the fire of Hell. If you would like to entertain perverts, that is your choice. But you have no right to force me.

      1. I agree with Ivar. Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because of sins like this.

        God’s Word is the truth, and this is a sin, whether you refuse to see it or not.

        But they can repent. It is not an unpardonable sin. Christ has given us salvation, if we repent and accept him as Our Savior.

        Gloria

  3. ivarfjeld, while you’re entitled to hold those views about homosexuality, surely you must be aware that such views are not very representative of thinking on the matter in the UK. Laws against homosexual acts were repealed over 40 years ago and now civil partnership, marriage in all but name, has exactly the same status in law as heterosexual marriage. Homosexuals do not suffer under the public stigma they once did.

    It is in this context that the law operates. No matter what you may think about homosexuals, no matter what you believe God thinks about homosexuals, you must not use your beliefs as a pretext to abuse them or deny them equal treatment.

    I’m really rather surprised that the devoutly religious, who in some parts of the world suffer the most terrible discrimination and abuse as I write these words, do not see that ideas are not justifiable reasons to deny others rights and dignity. Writing others off as diseased perverts doesn’t seem to me to be worthy of civilised people.

    1. Dear Tony.

      Shalom.

      God of the Bible says Homosexuals are perverts. It does not matter if six Billion people disagree. The World is lost, and perversions in different forms are now branded as the normality.

      Every man who is honest, knows that men should not enter the rectum of other people. Nothing good comes out of there. I find it very strange, that educated people do not understand this. Sorry for my bluntness. But someone needs to call a spade for a spade.

    2. Tony,

      These people chose to open their home to outsiders, clearly stating what they accepted or not into their home. It is stated on their website, and it is their chose. I would have chosen the same thing. As a christian, I would be a hypocrite if I allowed a male couple to sleep under my roof. That is me accepting their sins, which I don’t.

      Gloria

  4. Okay, you have reiterated your belief that homosexuals are perverts and that no decent person can disagree with your view.

    I’d like you to try to respond to my point, that such beliefs however firmly held do not justify depriving other human beings of rights and dignity.

    To try to bridge the gap, perhaps you might consider how your attitude would play out if faced by a heterosexual married couple on whose website you happened to notice an expression of enthusiasm for anal sex.

    And how about a female gay couple, both completely monogamous and free of all sexually transmitted diseases, whose website proclaimed their sexual interests to run no further than mutual masturbation?

    Is it really the sexual act that is the problem, or the same-sex attraction?

    Or is it because of your belief that God condemns gay people? If the latter, how about married couples who have done other things you think God condemns? Or is your concern over allowing married sinners to stay under one’s roof limited to homosexuals alone?

    1. Dear Tony

      Shalom.

      Homosexuals can have a lot of fun, doing a lot of things. And married couples of one man and one woman, can be horribly wicked.

      The Bible says homosexuality is a perversion. You might not like it, but that does not matter. You are a free man. Also to entertain perverts.

  5. Well, you didn’t really try to answer the question. Let’s try it again. Suppose I run a sweet shop and I happen to believe that God condemns all those who lick a sherbet dab before dipping. I am also aware that person X is such a dab licker, condemned by the Almighty to fry eternally for his heresy.

    Now the shop is in Ruritania where there are laws protecting dab lickers from unequal treatment.

    Nevertheless I publicly refuse to serve dab lickers, including person X. X sues and wins. I complain that I’m being persecuted for my beliefs. He says my beliefs are my own affair but my actions were unlawful. The courts agree.

    I review my scriptures and it’s clear to me from reading them that God really condemns those perverted dab-lickers.

    With me so far?

    1. Tony,

      I know what you are trying to do with your play on words, and if you are to continue this debate, please refrain from your “play with words.” In other words, you are a grown man so speak right.

      No matter which way you twist it, the couple was right. It is their home, and if they chose to not have homsexual staying in it, then it is their right, because they are following the Word of God.

      1 Corinthians 6:9-11 “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.”

    2. Dear Tony.

      Shalom.

      It must have struck you, that this is not a site on philosophy. So if you want to debate on ice creams, anal sex and other topics, please find another suitable site.

      If you would like to debate on faith, this is the site. You should be puzzled with where you will spend eternity, In Heaven or in Hell.

      There are truth seekers her, and truth tellers found on this site, and the master of this blog is Master Jesus of Nazareth.

      1. “There are truth seekers her, and truth tellers found on this site, and the master of this blog is Master Jesus of Nazareth.”

        Amen Ivar!

      2. “and the master of this blog is Master Jesus of Nazareth.”

        I wonder why then he appointed a cunt to run it for him ?

  6. (Continued)

    Months later I’m walking in the park and I fancy an ice cream. There’s a vendor in the park so I queue up and ask for a cone. The vendor tells me that he cannot serve me because of his religious convictions. You see, he has visited my website where I happened to describe my love of ice cream and how as a child I used to bite the tip off the cone and suck the ice cream out through the hole. He shows me the scriptures of his religion which, he assures me, state in no uncertain terms how much God condemns the act of cone-sucking. He cannot serve a known cone-sucker, he says, because this would enable the most horrible sin. I check his scriptures but obviously they’re wrong because they don’t say what my scriptures–which are obviously the genuine ones–say. Although curiously they do also condemn dab-lickers.

    My old enemy the dab-licker shows up but he isn’t a cone-sucker, so he gets served.

    Okay?

  7. (Third of three)

    So here is this perverted dab-licker wrapping his filthy heathen tongue around an ice cream, but because of a minor aspect of my enjoyment of ice cream the crazy vendor has declared a holy war on me. And all I wanted to do was enjoy an ice cream in the park!

    I only wanted to eat ice cream but here I am being labelled a cone-sucking request and subject to blatant discrimination because of that.

    So what went wrong? Surely religious freedom is a good thing. Why can’t the law recognise that my scriptures are obviously true and God hates dab-licking so much that it must not be countenanced? And why can’t they see that this buffoon of an ice cream salesman is inflicting his absurd and heretical beliefs on the true believers in the most satanic manner?

    I’ve got it! The law should reflect only the true scripture, which is obviously mine. Why don’t the lawyers see that?

  8. Hi Gloria, I’m not trying to play with words, but ideas. I’m trying to explore the notion of religious freedom.

    To what extent, in other words, are we bound by basic rules of human decency towards those of our law-abiding fellow humans who we believe to be condemned by God to eternal torment? At what point is it legitimate for the state to place limits on our action against them?

    This isn’t new stuff, as you may know. There are for instance countries where to declare belief in certain religious positions is to risk death. There are people, as I write this, under sentence of death in their own country because their actions are held by the majority of the people to be unforgivably offensive to God.

    Fortunately Britain isn’t one of those countries, but still the question is worth asking: when can we enforce a religious anathema?

    1. Tony,

      We can discuss in decency, and I we can respect each other even though we disagree.

      You speak of basic rules of human decency to law abiding humans. When I tell you that homosexual perversion is a sin, it is with love that I tell you and others this. I say it with respect, and with love because honestly the last thing I would anyone to do is spend an eternity in hell.

      Do I think for example in another countries, if you sin like this that it equals death? Absolutely not. I wrote before that this sin is pardonable, if one repents and accepts God.

      The bible says in 2 Corinthians 5:10
      For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil. *end* Do you see that? We must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ. Me, you, everyone.

      For example this includes Westboro Baptist Church who claim to be “Christian” and they are not, because they have stated God hates (putting it nicely) homosexuals. That is a false accusation against Jesus Christ. They will have to answer to Christ for that.

      While there is breath in your body, it is not too late to accept Jesus.

      John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

  9. Well I’m willing to discuss the issue of religious freedom, but first let us set aside those biblical quotes and that talk of eternal damnation. What you and I believe may differ considerably on that score.

    Now I recognise that you don’t hold malice towards homosexuals and other sinners when you tell them what will become of them if they don’t repent. I recognise that you hold yourself to the same standard.

    But it isn’t what we think, don’t you see, it’s what we do. The law says you cannot treat people unequally because of their sexuality, sex, age, religion, disability and whatnot.

    Why does the law say that? Because treating somebody unequally (even to save them from what you think will be eternal damnation) deprives them of their rights and dignity as humans.

    People are capable of making their own minds up what they believe about the eternal (freedom of religion, you see) and meanwhile the law says we must all treat one another with decency. Now that isn’t asking much, is it?

    1. Tony,

      I do not follow “mans” law, but God’s law. That’s the difference between me and you. To me, following God’s law is more important than following man. Jesus Christ loves me unconditionally, and he’s stated how he want’s all of us to live.

      This Christian couple let them know beforehand, that they live in accordance to God’s Word, and posted it on their website. For these men, to come and decide to book a room anyway is premeditated.

      Now you say we should treat them with decency. What was indecent about the married hotel couple telling them beforehand, we do not accept your behavior please find another room? They did not slander them, curse them. They told them the truth, that they live in accordance to God’s law. How hypocrite would it be of them in the eyes of Christ, to let these men into their home so they could spend the night there? It’s wrong in my eyes, and more importantly its wrong in Jesus Christ eyes.

      These men should have went there way, and found another place to stay.

    1. Dear Sue.

      Shalom.

      That was a very good testimony. The Devil is the tempter. He wants us to give in to lust, and do what God of the Bible do not like. Since I have been quite blunt on Homosexuality, let me underline that this is not the only sins that will lead to eternal death, if nor repented for.

      I have baptized a boy, that now seems to turn towards homosexuality. I am still his brother and shepherd, and do not persecute him. But I have to tell Him what God of the Bible feel about homosexuality. So this does not come as a surprise, the day He shall meet his creator and Master as the final judge.

      Many people do use “Jesus” in their defense of homosexuality. Jesus in flesh, never talked about this sin. Paul did, they say. Wrong. Jesus is always in agreement with His Father, and our Father in Heaven. And so is Paul.

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