Pastor Bob in Tennessee US burnt two Korans on Saturday

“This is a book of hate, not a book of love,”

Pastor Bob put two Korans into the flames. Danny Allan is watching.

Pastor Bob Old burnt two copies of the Koran in his own backyard in Springfield Tennessee, together with evangelist Danny Allen.

Old acknowledged that aside from Allen he had little other support, even from his family.

“I do this without the blessings of others,” he said.

Old did not address his critics directly, but he said that the Christian church has failed the people.

“The American people have a great deal to gain and a great deal to lose in supporting the Muslim faith,” Old said. “My belief is that we as a nation are in dangerous territory.”

“This is a book of hate, not a book of love,” Old said, holding the Quran, before setting it afire. “It’s a false book, it’s a false prophet (Muhammad) and it’s false Scripture.”

Then the two conducted what Old called a “peaceful demonstration” with little fanfare. Eight journalists gathered in Old’s backyard during the burning.

Source: Tennessean.com

Photo: Reuters.

808 thoughts on “Pastor Bob in Tennessee US burnt two Korans on Saturday

  1. Seems that all these “so called pastors” love to stir up controversy, and instead should be preaching about Christ to others.

    1 Peter 3:15 says: But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,

    We must preach about Christ with gentleness and respect.

    We must preach about Christ with gentleness and respect.

    1. Sister salam(peace)
      We muslim love and follow Jesus (peace be upon him)more than any christian. We don’t eat pork, alcohol like that of Jesus. Anyway these people burn Quran but they forget to read Ezekiel 23 and please click http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/touch-bible-kjv/id329581980?mt=8
      Bible is rated 12+ kaz of pornography and nudity etc.. . Please read Quran and bible both and find it out for yourself. Rest GOD knows best. if any question please go to me page on youtube
      http://www.youtube.com/user/SSGPakistan?feature=mhum.
      Be safe

      1. Do not blaspheme the Holy Word of God, for the Lord Christ says: It is written: “‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, ‘every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God. Roman 14:11

        Always remember: For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned. Matthew 12:37

        Muslims believe in the lie told from satan himself, where Mohammed says he was visited by an angel. He was visited by satan. But thank you JESUS for warning us about liars like him. 1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

        The quran also says to kill those who do not belive, yet JESUS CHRIST died on the cross for our sins, for whoever believe in him, shall not perish.

        I will not be visiting any pages that lies, against JESUS CHRIST.

        You would be wise, if you turn away from the muslim lie and pick up the HOLY WORD OF GOD, because JESUS CHRIST is coming soon!

        Revelation 20:11-15
        Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

      2. Sibghat,

        I checked out the links to the sites you suggested for us to watch.

        Now won’t you please check out this youtube video. It is a powerful testimony.

        A Muslim’s Conversion to Christianity – Part 1

        Part 2

      3. My comment is for Goria posted(September 16)

        I don’t know what you mean that Muhammad was visited by satan. If Muhammad says that he was visited by the angel and just the same way Moses, Abrahim and other messengers were visited so does that mean that they all were visited by SATAN. Please explain what you mean? The quote you gave that Jesus warns you of liars but yet you give no quote FROM JESUS HIMSELF. You say that John 4.1 says ….. Then is it Jesus that is saying that or John who lived after the period of Jesus.

        I know the phrase that JESUS CHRIST died on the cross for your sins but that does not make sense to me. The whole is full of sin and people keep on sinning day after day. Does that mean that JESUS died for only the sins of the people that lived in his time or did he die for ALL the sins that is even going to be committed. PLEASE EXPLAIN cause people would start to take advantage of your phrase and committe sin just because you say that JESUS died for your sins. You quote revelation 20:11-15 where you say that “they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done”. In this phrase you are contradicting your earlier statement. HOW CAN PEOPLE PAY FOR THEIR SINS IF JESUS ALREADY DIED FOR YOUR SINS.

      4. Dear Huzaifah

        Shalom, and welcome with a very good question.

        Your comment:

        Does that mean that JESUS died for only the sins of the people that lived in his time or did he die for ALL the sins that is even going to be committed.

        My reply:

        Jesus died for all the sins of all men, past, present and future.

        Does that mean than people who believe in Him, can go on sinning”

        Absolutely not. But if we sin, we have a High Priest in Heaven that will plead our case. Jesus sit at the throne of our Father God in Heaven, as our ambassador.

        Man can not stop sinning, and will continue to make mistakes. But when we obey Jesus, accept Him as our Master, He will give us a helper. That helper is called The Holy Spirit. This spirit will reign in our heart, and change us.Give us a desire to do our best to learn from our past mistakes, and say sorry when we do wrong.

        The Bible says, without being Holy, no one will see God. Explained, will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

      5. Huzaiafh,

        The Holy Word of God says: 2 Corinthians 11:14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

        The bible was written by prophets chosen by GOD, and the prophets were direct by the HOLY SPIRIT.

        And I agree with Ivar completely: Jesus died for all the sins of all men, past, present and future.

      6. Sister gloria to your last comment… our prophet to was a PROPHET OF GOD Choosen by god to write our QURAAN…( WHY YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IT ONLY GOD KNOWS) LOL so now i know y christians feel it ok to commit sins coz on the judgement day they know jesus ( GOD )will intervene. BUT WHY intervene when he is god… can he not just give all paradise… since he is so merciful?????

        Brother IVAR does this mean that the christian who do believe in christ as god( who supposedly have helpers)…does not have a helper, thats y they commit crimes….

      7. Huzaifah,

        You said: i know y christians feel it ok to commit sins coz on the judgement day they know jesus ( GOD )will intervene. BUT WHY intervene when he is god… can he not just give all paradise… since he is so merciful?????

        Many people call themselves Christians and sin. Which is why I tend to just say I am a complete believer of Jesus Christ. It is written in God’s word:

        Matthew 7: 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven

      8. Dear Ali.

        Shalom.

        Thanks for commenting on this blog:

        You wrote:

        all christian will enter hell.

        My reply:

        At least you believe in Hell. All sinners that are not saved will end up there.

        How has Muhammad saved you?

        Did he pay for your sins?

        You are a sinner, and in your sins your will be separated from God Almighty in Heaven. Only the blood of Jesus can cleanse you from your sins, and save you. This is the truth.

      9. Ali,

        God is the only one who can and will judge.

        Romans 14:10-12
        Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.

      10. May Peace be unto all (Muslims and Christians and others)!

        There is no need to argue, debate and insult others since we are all God-fearing, Am I Right? Personally, as a convert to Islam, other people should not immediatly conclude things which are beyond their understandings.

        We, the Muslims (believers in Arabic) must be patient, and do pray to Almighty Allah that our misled Christian friends would be enlightened just as how we in the family found the truth in Islam.

        Too much for creating turmoil due to some unislamic and evil acts committed by some either in Islam or Christianity.

        God has been testing us all. The real culprits here should have been the PAstors who burnt the Holy Qur-an and the Al-Qaeda or other people who have the evil interests.

        For you to find the truth about Islam (specially to Gloria), kindly visit this site: http://www.islamicbulletin.org/services/new_muslims.htm
        and read the articles there specially the story of former Baptist Minister Skip Estes (now Yusuf Estes)who were identified Anti-Muslim and Anti-Islam before..The guidance of God came with him so with us.

        Why argue and not condem those people who could afford to kill, ignite conflict and real culprits of Peace?

        Let us join hands in promoting peace and brotherhood.

        Let us put our shoes to other shoes..

        God did not instruct us to build enemies and fight but promote love, care and peace to His creations (whether you are Muslim or Christian or not).

        May God bless and guide us to the right path.God bless all.

    2. This is to reply to your comment!

      1. The quran does not say kill those who do not believe if so please state which chapter and verse do not believe in rumours believe in facts. Infact the quran teaches you the totall opposite it teaches you to help those to believe not kill them!
      2. Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) said there will be one last prophet after him and that is indeed Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him)
      3. Islam teaches us to respect one and other
      4. Islam believes in four books one being the bible but however you get people who totally changes the words of the bible and call it the new testament. Dont forget the old testament was the actual book.

      If you have anything else you would like to say please do not hesitate to message me back. Islam is a peacefull religion, dont blame the religion blame the people who give islam a bad name just so people can totally think wrong of it!

      1. Shakira,

        You said to give you a verse that says to kill non believers: Quran (2:191-193) -“And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]…and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.”

        But CHRIST WARNED US ABOUT FALSE TEACHERS LIKE THIS BEFOREHAND. THANK YOU JESUS FOR YOU ARE GREAT. 2 Peter 2:1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.

        Allah is a lie from the devil. And I feel bad that you believe in such a lie. I will pray that Christ touches your heart.

      2. Dear Gloria.

        Shalom.

        Good you came to help me. We are having more than 11.000 people visiting this blog today. We have been blessed with 9.000 souls who believe that Muhammad told the truth about Jesus.

      3. Sister gloria if you are going to qoute from our quraan do it properly do not use what you want just to prove a point.

        Sura 2 : 190

        Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, BUT NOT TRANSGRESS LIMITS ; FOR ALLAH LOVES NOT TRANGRESSORS.

        Sura 2 : 191
        And slay them where ever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out, for persucution is worse than slaughter but fight them not at the sacred Mosque unless they (first ) fight you there; but if they fight you , slay them
        Sura 21 : 192

        But if they cease, Allah is oft forgiving. Most merciful.

        This verses state you fight those who fight you first… but if a compromise can br met.. take it coz allah does not like war….
        And if they surrender then forgive bcoz allah is forgiving.

      4. Huzaifah,

        I’m only coping and pasting what you believe:

        Quran (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.”

        Quran (3:56) – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”

        The whole book is filled with lies, because only JESUS CHRIST CAN SAVE AND BRING JUDGMENT.

        Jude 1 says: verse 14-16

        14Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones 15to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” 16These men are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage.

      5. Here again sister gloria you do not qoute the verses bafore which inform you why thats written…. You just choose verses that suits you to make a point….

        Anyway… you believe in jesus as god … i will believe him to be a messenger……..

        For thoses who read the quraan will know its a way of life and promotes peace…

        Slander muhammed as much as you want but you cant change the fact that he was a humble man… and a prophet of god…
        I make dua that Allah forgives you coz you know not what you talk…And you have been led to assume what you think is true

        Brother ivar… hopefully God will show you the right path… once you try to figure out who u actually praying to FATHER< SON < OR HOLY SPIRIT.

        PEACE BE UPON YOUR"LL

        WAS SALAAM

      6. Huzaifah,

        Again, God and Jesus, and the holy spirit are one John 10:30

        Your mohammed was just a man like we all are Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

        But because Christ died for us (Thank you Jesus!) 1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

      1. Dear Jed.

        Shalom, and thanks for giving us a link.

        This man was never a follower of Jesus. He was raised a United Methodist, and he clearly states: “I hated Church as a kid”.

        He was raised by his grandparents, and states that he did not like his grandparents trying to stop him from sinning.

        The video is 1 hour of 20 minutes. Please give us links for video’s that are shorter.

    3. gloria….
      i was just reading your comments i am really offended by them…as you blieve in jesus… jesus had love for everyone he didnt hate anyone as much as you hate muslims… another fing ur co m8 ivar wot ever there callled says prophet muhannad married a 6years old girl wot bullshit they on about..indat case wot do you say bout ur preists who sleep with young children who cum to learn from them?( pedofiles)also tell me you gys beieve the trinity wot ever the father the son the holy spirit…i was told when i was in skool that the father became the son and the spirit its a long story but at the end it said that he then was killed on the cross he was crucifid(simple logic you kill someone how can they be alive????)lolz god killed himself how can he be alive..tell me now you gona say we believe he was taken to haven….fair enough muslims also believe that he was taken up he didnt die and he will return…another fing da bible its not the word of christ da christains have alterd it all and took out the bits and bobs they didnt like and replaced it wot they liked and they named it example 1peter 3:15 like dat many others perter, john, jack, all these names..clarify me on this please how can you worship something that you have creatd with your own hands…example god is all powerful yeah you guys go and bow 2pcs of wood joint 2gether to make a cross, n the statue of jesus up high on the wall if i lit the 2pc wood it will burn coz it cannot move and if i break the statue it will break remember god is all powerful..im sorry for you coZ islam is the fastes growing religion in the world..and someone is quoted that quran says kill a non muslim.. whoever that was i jus wanna lt you no that you shud read the quote carefuly there shud be a reason why the quran says dat… it is an esasy fing to pin point fings at others by a few nonsense facts…i am a muslim and i am pround of being a muslims… just a big thank you to all of you christains and non muslims thnk you for making us muslims the centre of your worlds..your always finking bout us its rely kind of you…they say the dog never stops barking….thats wot you gys do. over all muslims love and respect all religions eventhou they are misled..a person cannot change wot you fink or believe but to tell you wots right and wrong…after all u r responsible for wot u do no1 else will take ur blame( for christains not even jesus)u are responsilbl 4 ur own actions… thanks to all and i hope i havent offended anyone if i did i am very sorry….
      gloria no grdjez kinds regards sfm

    4. your comment from earlier.-
      you are the most stupidest person ever,
      how the fuck , was muhammad visited by the devil?how does it say kill those that dont believe?
      You OBVIOUSLY have’nt read the quran, and your blatantly chatting out your ARSE.
      im not even gonna say much to you, but boyyyyyyy i feel for you. One day, don’t worry. you will know.
      Eventually all of you fooolish people will know.
      ‘and you know what babeee, go check it on the internet or buy a quran and read it before you chat shit, fucking lieing cunt,

      1. Dear all followers of Muhammad.

        Shalom.

        Gloria can not answer 10 Muslims attacking her. Please give her a break. We have now answered almost 200 questions, and we need some rest. I am about to close down this debate.

        Please do not insult each other. As Muslims you are supposed to love and care for people who disagree with you.

      2. Dear Tony Ja.

        Shalom, and welcome to this site.

        If you have nothing fruitful to say, stay offline. The next message from your hand will become spam. Now I have warned you in advance.

    5. Gloria & all,

      After reading various comments all i can say is that Pastor is disgracing the christianity faith, islam is all about peace, love and harmony. Now, all you brother and sisters on this forum (muslims) why rise to these disbelievers, who are so aragant and dont have any shame, Gloria… i wiosh you all the best in life my friend, with your versus from the Bible, but let me just tell you something,,,,,,ISLAM is the largest growing religion in the WORLD…why….

      Also please can you tell me where you read about the Quran stating to KILL disbelievers, may be the holy bible states killing and priests becoming pedo’s (no disrespect) but any way no rise to it all

      1. The devil likes high body counts. By turning people against Christ he ensures their destruction. Now you claim to be a religion of peace and love but what peace and love is their in eternal death?

      2. Muslim,

        Islam is not about peace and love, and harmony. Islam is one huge lie, created by the devil. You can choose to believe what you want, but the bible the Holy Word of God is the complete truth from beginning to end.

        Unfortunately, Islam is growing at an alarming rate, but thank you Jesus because there is still time for those who do not believe in Christ to repent and be saved.

        2 John 1:7
        For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist.

  2. Has he ever actually read the Quran? Or is he judging the Quran by the actions of its followers (who are mere mortals and therefore imperfect)?

    1. Sha I posted a verse from the Quran (2:191-193) where it says to murder the nonbelievers.

      JESUS CHRIST OUR GOD, foretold us how liars like Mohammed would come. Matthew 7:15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

      Mohammed, and the muslims false god allah is a lie from the devil. Please read the HOLY BIBLE-THE WORD OF GOD, and seek Christ and you will see the truth.

      1. OMG Either u blind…. or just stupid… no where is it wriitten kill non believers…..

        No wer is the word non believers….

        WHO IS MATHEW THAT YOU LISTEN TO…???
        JESUS DID NOT SAY IT>>>> MATHEW DID>>> MATHEW WAS NO AROUND WHEN JESUS WAS LIVING…WHY BELIEVE HIS WORDS

      2. lol dont make me laugh gloria.
        Wat does luke 19 v.27 say?? 🙂
        next time u type lies out of context remember to read that verse

      3. Dear Bronco.

        Shalom.

        Read Luke 19, where Jesus is sharing a parable about an earthly King.

        Jesus said His kingdom if not of this World. He did never approve of violence, and told his followers to love and bless their enemies. No follower of Jesus had the right to physically harm a Muslim.

        But our message about Jesus will hurt you. Because all Muslims are sinners that needs to be saved by Jesus. If He will not save them, all Muslims will end up in Hell. This is the truth.

      4. hey gloria give us the original copy of the bible n we will read it.muslims believe and respect all books of allah.the psalms, the torah, the bible, the quran. the only reason muslims believe in the quran is coz its a complete word of allah. its not been altered meaaning theres no john, jack or peter in there..its one comlete word of god..tell me one thing your christ was being hanged on the cross as being the god did he not no that was coming….i am sorry but you really suck..gloria can i ask you something do you dress up like a nun or as a prostitute… do lt us no
        coz i cant relly figure out and also if your at home or a mental hospital….

    2. Huzaifah, the bible was written in direction with the Holy Spirit.

      2 Peter 3:15
      And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him,

      Notice where it says the wisdom given him.

      1. so its his wisdom… jesus never said it… how long ago was it that peter lived after the death of christ…Here again how do you know its true… They said god choose them .How do we know its true??? We know jesus and muhammed are messengers from god… Because our quraan which was revealed via muhammed states it.???

        I can say according to the wisdom given to me…and give advice does that make me A messenger of god.

      2. Huzaifah

        The Holy Spirit, God and Jesus are one John 10:30

        Spiritual Wisdom is from Jesus Christ. If you accept Jesus Christ as your savior, you can have spiritual wisdom.

        Colossians 1:9
        And so, from the day we heard, we have not ceased to pray for you, asking that you may be filled with the knowledge of his will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding,

      3. gloria
        i wonder what you lot call a spirit…i dont know why but it sounds more like jinns and spirits which lead to satan and no doubt you are born a devil. you are going to be in the depths of hell…burn in hell gloria

      4. Dear Sarwat Fatima.

        Sfm uk.

        Shalom.

        Let me remind you that man is not suppose to curse others. When you curse Gloria, you bring a curse up on your own head.

        Jesus have told all who believe in Him, that many people will laugh when they hear our message, redicule us, mock us, and even harm us physically. It is a price of telling the truth about Jesus being the only gate to Heaven.

        But some will believe. Even Muslims will submit to Him, and He will save them.

      5. SFM,

        God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are one. Only JESUS CHRIST can bring judgement.

        Revelation 20:11-15 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

      6. Sorry gloria but replyinh to what you told… me does that mean you a messenger of god because you believe his you saviour… thats rediculous.

        And you haven’t answered my questions… Where does it say that whwt peter , paul,and john say is true??? why do you believe them???

      7. Huzaifah

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        Where does it say that what Peter, Paul ,and john say is true??? why do you believe them???

        My reply:

        This question should be returned. Why do you believe Muhammad”? How do you know that what He said is true?

        If I say the sun is shining, you have a chance to control this. When Jesus said that if you Bless your enemies, I will bless you, you can very much test if this is true. But not before you have blessed your enemies.

        If you keep on cursing your enemies, you will never be able to find the truth.

      8. Because our quraan says it… our quraan says jesus is a messenger and so is muhammed ( S.A.w )…….

        None of your scriptures says anything that says believe peter , paul, and john… Peter, Paul, john tell you that god told them they are messengers

        You to remember what jesus says… because by you putting islam down… you will never find the truth…

        sit back and try and answer questions we have asked… and you will see , you cant answer them…

        coz your bible has no answers

        salaam s
        peace be upon you

  3. Sorry, Ivar. I don’t know how the video showed up here…I just posted the link. Maybe you can fix it? There is a part 1 and part 2.

    1. the bible kind of confuses me as a fellow Christian I don’t really understand it there’s many many copies and re written versions ? Somebody please explain

      1. Dear Kelly.

        Shalom, and welcome to this site.

        This is one of the Jihad verses in the Koran. You can read, and judge for your self.

        [Sura 5:33]
        «The just retribution for those who fight God (Allah) and His messenger (Muhammad), and commit horrendous crimes, is to be killed, or crucified, or to have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or to be banished from the land. This is to humiliate them in this life, then they suffer a far worse retribution in the Hereafter».

      2. Kelly,

        Revelation 22 says:

        18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

        19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

        20He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

        21The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

      3. dear kelly…
        dont listen to ivarfjed whoever they are they have been mislead and they gona burn hell…becarefull they mite take you with them… i would advise you to look up the bible and the quran and the other books too and consider yourself which one is right..like you said there are many versions and copies…and non of it is the word god or jesus its all man made by peter jonh,matthew.the quran is the complete word of god no one has altered it….may you be guided to the right path

      4. Dear Sarwat Fatima.

        sfm.uk.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        i would advise you to look up the bible and the quran and the other books too and consider yourself which one is right.

        My comment:

        Since you are so sure that people who believe in Jesus will burn in Hell, why do you want Muslims to read the Bible?

        Anyhow, this is a good advice. The topic behind this interesting debate, is that neither the Koran nor any Bible should be burnt. These are book that should be studied.

      5. sfm,

        Only God can judge.

        1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one will receive his commendation from God.

  4. This man will be severly punished for his actions! As a pastor he suppose to promote peace! Allah will punish him! We as muslims respect the bible and respect Jesus(p.b.u.h)! We take him to be a Prophet of Allah! We have peace and respect for christianity! This man is completely out of line by burning the quraan!

    1. Naazia,

      You believe a lie told by the devil himself. Please seek Christ and you will know the truth.

      2 Corinthians 11:13-15 E
      For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.

      1. sfm,

        I am not catholic, nor do I follow the pope. I believe ONLY IN JESUS CHRIST, and he is the only one I follow.

        Candels in church? Are you confusing us with catholics, because Ivar and I ONLY BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST. Catholics elevate Mary and worship her as a statue.

        I believe in my LORD JESUS CHRIST ONLY.

    2. dear gloria
      is not people who believe in jesus is the people who believe he is the god. they will burn in hell.also who believe he is the son of god… as muslims we believe god is one and has no partners not a son not a wife..and saying worshipping a cement statue is shrik… so get your facts right… and plus you guys change the bible everyother day in couple of years time if your pope fell in love with a man couple of months later in the bible it will be ok to marry a man and have a relationship with a man to man… no offence it will happen…

      ivar… i want muslims to read the bible because then they will know who you are.. and just to clrify we believe in all the original books…ok i hope it answers your question…also i have a question is why do you have candels in the church is it because your god cant see you or you cant see your god?????

      1. Dear Sarwant Fatima.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        if your pope fell in love with a man couple of months later in the bible it will be ok to marry a man and have a relationship with a man to man.

        My reply:

        I know that it is not easy for Muslims to understand that the Pope is not a Christian. You might know that the Catholic faith permits worship of idols of stone and wood. In regards to the Pope, I feel he is a false teacher. Because the Bible to not permit worship of idols. God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel demands to be worshiped in spirit and in truth.

  5. You guys are the most ignorant people i have ever come across.
    To start of, Pastor Bob is just another human being that seeks attention. He is another pastor that touches little kids.
    Jesus, or Propher ISA in Islam, did not die on the Cross, please do your research
    ISLAM is the fastest growing religion in the world. 1/4 person you see is devoted to the faith.
    In Islam we believe in the bible,and in Jesus but then men came along and rewrote the bible to make it false. Thats why another prophet came along and God said “This is the only book that will not be re-written” Anyways, you guys got PWNED.

  6. Sister Gloria,

    You seem to have more hate than love inside you are you sure SATAN hasn’t overtaken you?, is this what chritianity teaches you?

    You can not be true CHRISTIAN, true chritians are peace loving people just like MUSLIMS! go to PEACE CHANNEL and learn you Zionist!¬!¬

    1. Mohammed,

      Because I speak the truth, which is the HOLY BIBLE THE WORD OF GOD, you think Satan has overtaken me? It is you who are believing in the devil’s lies.

      The Lord has shown me many things in my short life, and believe this CHRIST IS COMING SOON. And if you do not repent, the bible tells us what will happen on judgment day.

      Revelation 20:11-15
      Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

      1. omg gloria you are a nonsense person i have known…. you believ that jesus died to take away our sins then why will the peole be thrown in hell…or the lake of fire…i think when you say if anyones name was not found in the book they will b thrown in the lake of fire you are referring this to your self as your going to be in hell…..ohhhhhh

      2. Dear Sarwat Fatima.

        Shalom.

        Gloria is telling you the truth. There is a eternal lake of fire, that Jesus spoke about. He warned people about disobeying God the Father, Who has the power to throw both your body and soul into this fire of Hell.

        But neither the Father, nor the Son wants any Muslim to end up in this place. This place is prepared for the devil. Unfortunately he has many children, that will end up there because they refused to repent and believe in Jesus, God the Son.

      3. Sfm,

        True believers of Jesus Christ are saved, because they’ve accepted his salvation John 3:16

        Matthew 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.

        You too can be saved, if you believe in JESUS.

        Revelation 20: 11-15 The Book of Life are the names of people who have truly accepted Christ as their savior.

  7. this guy is a fucking joke….
    why do you people think that more christians and non believers revert into ISLAM? simply its the true religion…
    when jesus was crucified he was replaced by the the sun GOD RAMA… all you zionists know this… but remember ISLAM will win no matter what… it is said in the holy quran…

    1. Dear all Muslim readers.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      Thank you for visiting this blog in several thousands during the last 24 hour.

      I just have to bless you with the true love that is available for every human being. – Jesus loves you. He is not a mortal man, He is God the Son. You have a Father in Heaven, and you can become his child by surrender to the Messiah Jesus of Nazareth.

      Second: I do not support burning of the Koran. I want all to read this book, and see that Muhammad tells us to cripple and kill people who do not believe in Him.

      1. As salaam wa aliakum

        Regarding you second statement:

        I dont know what book you reading but what i read no wer is that written…
        The Koraan was not written by Muhammed ( S.A.W ).It is the book of GOD which was revealed to Muhammed ( S.A.W
        )

        Have you read up on our Prophets life??
        You dont know him how can you make such accusations. Read one of your own Christian praising him coz he was a humble man.

        A CHALLENGE TO ALL WHO DISLIKE MUHAMMED (S.A.W)
        READ THE BOOK
        The Most Influential Man in History
        from the book by Michael Hart

        Can you please send me proof of the statements you claim is in the book.

        OUR KORAAN IS A WAY OF LIFE>>> IT GUIDES YOU

      2. It is funny that all you guys who believe in both religions Muslims and Christians have so much hatred for one another. It is as if whatever you have been told in your sacred books has had no effect on you. It even worse to see that Christians take for truth the bible and then say that the Quran is a lie because it is predicted by the bible (of course) and the same goes for the Muslims who says that the Christians are lying because it is said so in the Quran (of course!). You have all been brainwashed since you are kid and see the world in only one perspective. The funnier part is where you start talking about Satan… I am still asking myself why god created him if I were to believe he (Satan) exists. Question goes to the Muslim about their argument that the holy books of the past were modified … so that the only truth comes from The Prophet Muhammed .. if god is all knowing then he was totally aware that the Jews and the Christians would modify his words well before… yet he decided to let all this confusion happen and let all of his children in not knowing what to believe! And to those who says the bible is the only true word… it was once stated in the bible that the earth is the centre of the world, that the sun and all the planets goes round the earth! what madness! They changed it since the Copernicus and Galileo proved that this is not the case… so the Bible has been modified countlessly in the past and will continue to be so in the future! The heaven you are all trying to reach … is here and now on this earth … if you were to love each other and to lived a life of truth then you will enjoy it by being humble and help each other …then the heaven is here and now

      3. Dear rvz.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        It is funny that all you guys who believe in both religions Muslims and Christians have so much hatred for one another.

        My reply:

        I sincerely regrets that you feel this way. Followers of Jesus that hates their enemy, will most likely not make it to the Kingdom of Heaven. They will be in need of repentance, and change their style.

        The message of Jesus, is only about love. But there can be no love, outside of the truth. Sometime the truth is hard to face. That there is a devil, and that many people have chosen to listen to his lies.

    1. Dear Abdul.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      Several Muslim readers have tried to publish this kind of message today, that Pastor Bod has died in an accident. This is a rumor.

      Jesus in God the Son. Those who reject Him as Master, will have to spend eternity in Hell. The Koran says Allah does not have a son. So Islam is not the truth.

      1. So sad to hear that pastor bobs death was a rumor, wish it was true…it would have been a punishment from Allah for his disgusting act of burning the Quraan. his behaviour is worse than that of an animal.

      2. Dear Muslim readers.

        Shalom, and love in Jesus, God the Son.

        The Koran says that Allah did not begot a son. That is not the truth. Jesus is our creator, God as likewise as God our Father of Heaven and Earth.

        We are about to cross 10.000 visitors on this blog in 24 hours. The large majority of viewers today are Muslims. I just want to tell you that Jesus loves all of you. Give your life to Him, and you will live forever in the Kingdom of Heaven.

      3. Dear Disgusting behavior.

        Shalom.

        Let me assure you that no true followers of Jesus will ever burn a Koran. We who have Jesus as Master believe in the freedom of expression, and the freedom to read any kinds of books.

        But we will not agree that the Koran is a Holy Book. Because it brands Jesus only as a mortal prophet. Jesus is much more than that. He is the creator of all Muslims. Father, Son and Spirit is One God the Almighty.

      4. Stop quoting from the bible, you are one confused person and as a result you are confusing every one else…..STOP BEATING AROUND THE BUSH!!!!! JUST FACE IT….YOU HAVE NO VALID ANSWERS TO OUR OPINIONS.

        You say that no true believers would burn the Quraan so I take it that pastor bob is not a true christian.

      5. As salaam Wa aliakum

        I love Prophet Essa( Jesus)as he is one of the messengers of Allah.

        But how can you say Jesus created us…. How is it Adam and eve was made before jesus if jesus was god… And if you still think Jesus is god … why was he only born so late?? Jesus used to tell his companions peace be upon you when meeting… Why dont christians do that… ( as salaam wa aliakum meaning peace be upon you…)

      6. Jesus Christ does love you, and because he died on the cross for our sins, proves that is love is the GREATEST.

        All muslims can repent, and seek God and you shall know the truth.

        Please seek Christ, and you will know that the devil has told likes about a false god allah, and mohammed who was a rapist and a murderer.

        Luke 13:3 No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.

      7. Dear Gloria.

        Shalom.

        You must not be to harsh with our Muslim visitors.

        It is true that Muhammad married a girl when she was six years of age. She left her fathers house to stay with Muhammad when she was nine.

        I wounder how Muslims can approve of such?

      8. Ivarfjeld, where did you get this bullshit info that our prophet married when he was 6…you are such a pervert and a sick SOUL.

        Get your facts straight.

      9. SORRY IVAR AND GLORIA BUT I LOVE MY RELIGION…. IM PROUD TO BE A MUSLIM

        IVAR ATLEAST MUHAMMED MARRIED the women NOW DAYS CHRISTIAN RATHER SLEEP AROUND INSTAED OF GETTING MARRIED>>>>

        HOW IS IT JESUS WAS BORN??? IF I DID NOT BELIEVE MY QURAAN>>> THEN I WOULD ASSUME MARY HAD SLEPT WITH SOMEONE AND FELL PREGNANT BEFORE MARRIAGE… THE MAN YOU CALL GOD….

        UNLIKE YOU AND GLORIA JESUS NEVER SAID BAD OF ANYONE>>>>YOU DO NOT HAVE PROOF THAT OUR PROPHET IS AS TERRIBLE AS YOU MAKE HIM SEEM OUR QURAAN DOES NOT SPEAK BAD OF ANY PROPHETS>>>

        IF YOU READ YOU WOULD SEE>>> ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD THEY WOULD TELL You HE WAS A HUMBLE MAN>>>

        BUT YOU RATHER ASSUME BECAUSE YOU AFRAID WE ARE RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG

      10. Gloria!!! you and Ivar should do us all a favour and ask pastor old to burn your’ll in his backyard. Your’ll are disturbed souls

      11. Disgusting,

        You apparently do not know to much about mohammed if you didn’t know he married a little girl.

        I agree with Ivar. NO TRUE BELIEVER OF CHRIST would ever burn a koran, for Jesus Christ says
        1 Peter 3:15
        But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,

        And as to Huzaifah, Mohammed was a murderer. But while there is breath in your lungs, you can repent and accept to Christ.

        John 8:24 I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.”

      12. Stop promoting christianity…even if I have the last breath, I will still follow Islam, I love my religion far too much.

        Face it, muslims are winners, I know its difficult to accept but sooner or later you WILL come to your senses.

      13. Disgusting,

        I ONLY SERVE CHRIST- BECAUSE HE IS THE ONLY WAY.

        John 3:16″For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

        Hopefully one day soon, you will see the truth. I hope and pray.

        John 12:48
        The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day.

      14. Disgusting

        I will never get tired of JESUS CHRIST BECAUSE ALL GLORY GOES TO HIM FOR ALL HE HAS DONE FOR ME.

        AND JESUS CHRIST HAS ALREADY WON.

        Revelation 19 verse 11:21

        11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

        12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

        13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

        14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

        15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

        16And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

        17And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

        18That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

        19And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

        20And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

        21And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

      15. Well I make dua that Allah guides all of you non-believers on the right path…

        Are your’ll gonna be quoting the entire bible and if so, which version and edition as there is always a new one written.

      16. Dear Disgusting behaviour

        Shalom, and thanks for this comment.

        You are perfectly right. The latest print of the Bible, have serious flaws. But not because of the Word of God. This is man made errors. In fact, it is the enemy of our soul who is behind this.

        I have 11 version of the Bible in my office. 98 per cent of the text are similar, but there are some minor differences.

        How is this possible?

        The Original scriptures were written by Jews. They wrote in Hebrew. Later it was translated into Greek, and further into Latin. First 650 years ago the Bible was translated into English. We who are Christians must take our studies of the Bible seriously.

      17. Disgusting,

        There is only ONE TRUE VERSION OF GOD’S WORD THE HOLY BIBLE.

        Christ said: Revelation 22 says: 18I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

      18. If the bible is the word of god, it should have been 100% the same as it was revealed, irrespective of the language and translation….that is just an excuse.

        The Quraan is the same as it was revealed to our Prophet right down to punctuation marks.

      19. Dear Disgusting behaviour.

        Shalom, and thanks for making this site an interesting place of debate.

        You are right. The Word of God is 100 pert correct, and eternal. But If I today tried to translate an English Koran in to Danish, and published it. Would it still be the correct teachings of Muhammad?

      20. Disgusting,

        Who said the bible is not 100% correct? I believe it’s correct from beginning to end, because I believe in JESUS CHRIST.

        Your book quaran is lies from a man who was a liar, and he believed satan the father of all lies (John 8:44)

        2 Corinthians 11 says: 13For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

      21. Yes Ivar, it would be the same provided the correct people are translating it. No tom dick or harry should translate it.

        There are people who have studied the language and the HOLY QURAAN and will be able to translate 100% correctly.

        And furthermore, I look at it as: the one who has to translate it, is chosen by Allah so as not to make the slighest of error of translating. Every thing happens with the WILL OF ALLAH.

      22. Disgusting,

        If you read the Holy Word of God, with an open heart, and repent, you too can be saved.

        John 6:38-40 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

      23. yes ivar, it would remain exactly the same provided the correct people translate it. One should have studied the language thoroughly.

      24. LOL!!!!! Gloria darling, please read the texts properly before commenting… your dear brother ivar said that he has 11 in his office and the text is 98% similar, I quote “98% similar”

      25. I leave your’ll in the hands of Allah, May He guide all of those who have gone astray.

        Islam is the only true religion, there is none worthy of worship but Allah and our Prophet was the final messenger.
        This, I take with me till the day I die and on the day of judgement.

        Ivar and Gloria, your’ll are fighting a losing battle, we muslim brothers and sisters will always stand by our religion…no matter what.

        May Allah guide your’ll, Insha Allah.

        Wasalaam

      1. dear gloria! none of these prophets were nun’s so why r you, is it because you can’t find anyone’ or your lookin for a young girl/boy.

    2. GLORIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU F****N PSYCHOTIC SHIT!!!!!!!!!!

      YOU WILL BURN IN THE FIRE OF HELL FOR CALLING OUR PROPHET A RAPIST AND MURDERER!!!!

      I THINK YOU ARE IVER’S MISTRESS….THAT’S WHY YOU ARE LIKE AN ECHO FOR HIM..

      1. Disgusting Behaviour,

        I speak the truth, and he was both.

        As to your other comment, I am a born again believer. Jesus Christ is everything to me, and I do my best everyday to follow his commandments.

        He is the only one who will bring judgment on me, you, and the rest of the world.

        Romans 14:10-12
        Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.

    3. I cannot believe that this talk is still carrying on!!!!

      It’s such a waste to talk to Ivar and Gloria!!! It’s clear that they will never understand

      1. Dear disgusting behavior.

        Shalom.

        Well, you felt the need to prolong the debate.

        Who forced you to come online?

        May Jesus one day become your guiding light. He is the light of the World. Amen.

      1. Disgusting,

        It is no losing battle, for Jesus has already won.

        Revelation 20:

        10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

        11And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

        12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

        13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

        14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

        15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

      2. Disgusting,

        The battle has already been won by Jesus.

        Revelation 19

        11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

        12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

        13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

        14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

        15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

        16And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

  8. Clearly u know absolutely nothing about Islam, if you would consider yourself a spiritual person then open your mind to the possibility that u are ignorant to the teachings of Islam. i would suggest you go to a local mosque and ask for someone to guide you,or at least inform you more of Islam because clearly even your normal readers would realise, you are very misguided.

  9. Salaam!
    Neither ISLAM nor CHRISTIANITY nor any other Religion teaches us to hate or discriminate. Don’t let this Pastor build hate between ISLAM and CHRISTIANITY. Revenge could steal a man’s life until there was nothing left but emptiness! This Pastor needs to analyse and accept only what makes sense- ISLAM, the one true Religion!
    May ALLAH (s.w.t) accept the ‘ibaadats’, efforts and intentions, big or small, of every Muslim believer. May He reward us infinitly.
    May our Imaan (faith) withstand all trials. May our patience increase immensly. *Ameen Yaa Rabb-il Alameen!*
    Prophet Isa (pbuh) will come to Earth and prove all non-believers wrong. This will be a sign of Qiyamah (Judgement Day) Also, all verses of the Qur’an will disappear. Only those who believe in Allah, His book and His Prophet, will be able to re-write the Qur’an. This Pastor has triggered us, Dear Muslims, we need to recite the Qur’an as much as possible.
    Asalam aleikum!

    1. Dear Layali

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      You are a sinner, and you need to be saved form the coming wrath of God. Muhammad is dead and gone. He can not save you.

      Jesus paid for the sins of the World, to save mankind form their deserved destiny in the flames of Hell. Only He can save you. He is alive, and He will soon return and judge the World.

      Look at the World. Its full of evil, injustice and wickedness. Muslims killing Muslims in the name of ‘Allah” is one sure proof that Islam is a false religion.

      1. ivarfjeld and the devil gloria
        tell us something why is your jesus up in the heaven why does he not come and sort you out i mean theres lots of things going on the cruption, the poverty.the floods, the earthquakes. the herrocaine and all hese natural disasters. tell me. also your statement muslim killing muslim… well you bloody christains kill muslims and the bloody jews kill muslims that dont forget that your jesus was killed by his christians of that time… what did his so called followers did was just stood there and watched him like an epsoid of prision break was on….you and your co christains friends disgust me…honestly you guys are a black stain in the name of christanity

      2. Dear Sarwat Fatima.

        Shalom, and thanks for being active on this site.

        You admit that Muslims are killing Muslims. My question is: When both this group claims to be true followers of Muhammad and do kill shouting “Allah is Great”, who of them are right?

        I have earlier explained that Jesus do not permit his followers to harm anyone. You must agree that not all who claim to follow Muhammad are true followers. Likewise, there are surely people who claim to know “Jesus”, who makes a mockery out of his teachings.

      3. Sfm,

        If you read the Holy Word of God, you woud see that poverty, floods, earthquakes, are signs that will increase, all leading to the arrival of our LORD JESUS CHRIST.

        Some of the signs are:

        “And you will be hearing of wars an rumors of wars; see that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. “For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines, and pestilence’s and earthquakes. “But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.” Matthew 24:3-8

        “And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth the distress of nations, with great perplexity, over the sea and the roaring of the waves.” Luke 25:2

        Jesus said that once you see these things happen, you know that is coming is near.

        God Bless

    2. Seriously burning the quran is sooooo childish. u might hate muslims buut y ruin innocent peoles lives nd burn their holy book. Do u see us buring the Bible we respect ur religion buut not likee u peoplee who dnt caree like srslii i expect us to not terrorise ur country buut u can BURN or holy book
      u mitee not beleivee in islaam but atleast respect our religion

      1. Dear Madina.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        Seriously burning the quran is sooooo childish.

        My reply:

        I totally agree. Jesus would never permit his followers to burn the Koran. He would tell them to read the Koran, and find out if Muhammad is a true or false prophet. In a similar way all Muslims should get them selves a Bible, and find out if the Bible is the truth.

  10. wot a stupid idea that jesus died for your sin, it means i can fuck your mother but still i will forgiven… Wakeup dum ass and put your acts right…. Atleat get agreed to a single bible every couple of year you keep changing them…. I hate to a christian, someone pls get me out of this mess

    1. Dear Kaldino

      Shalom, and welcome to this site of free expression.

      I can not approve of your filthy language. The truth is that what ever sexual sins you have committed, when you surrender to Jesus, the penalty for those sins will be canceled by Him.

      This is good news. Listen to Him, and Obey Him. And you shall not perish. Amen.

      1. Let me tell u something as a Muslim we to believe that jesus will be the prophet to come back to earth and save us. And many more thing. Please do not allow ur mind to be so narrow and let there b space for knowledge for knowledge can not harm and is a very powerful thing. Please study Islam not the ppl as I would tell any fellow Muslim to study Christianity and not the ppl because pator bob is a disgrace to all Christians simple. Hope that helped u a little

      2. Dear Zen

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        Let me tell u something as a Muslim we to believe that jesus will be the prophet to come back to earth and save us.

        My reply:

        The Bible says: if you say with your mouth, and believe in your heart that Jesus has risen from the dead, you shall be saved.

        He was crucified, died, and rose again for our justification.

      3. God hates all sin and the only way to have a relationship with God is to NEVER sin – which is impossible. Jesus was God’s idea not man’s. Jesus, fully God and fully man, lived a perfect, sinless life and was crucified for all sin – your sin and mine. It does not make sense that God would love men and women so much that he would send His Only Son to die for us so that we could have a realationship with Him. It makes even less sense that one would continue to mock Jesus for this great sacrifice rather than fall at his feet in prayer, and thank Him for dying in your place, and ask for forgiveness to have every doubted his sacrifice. Jesus was resurected from the dead as proof postive that we who believe this will not die but have etrnal life. Believe this and ask for the Holy Spirit to change your life and stop doubting. Not believing in Jesus as the Messiah, the One who gave his life so that you might live, is the only sin which will not be forgiven.

      4. now i know why there are priests pedophiles and sexually harassed their followers.because your bible teches thst you will be save in the hereafter when you are christians. surely these pedophiles are the true christians because they know well about their religion….

      1. Huzaifah,

        I wrote this above: The men who wrote the bible were directed by the HOLY SPIRIT. God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are one!

        1 John 5 says: 1Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well. 2This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out his commands. 3This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome, 4for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith. 5Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.
        6This is the one who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ. He did not come by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth. 7For there are three that testify: 8the[a] Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement. 9We accept man’s testimony, but God’s testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son. 10Anyone who believes in the Son of God has this testimony in his heart. Anyone who does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because he has not believed the testimony God has given about his Son. 11And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.

  11. Can some 1 please tell me y there is so much hatred between u ppl specially wen u don’t know nothing bout 1 another. As a Muslim we believe every thing a Christian does except the fact that jesus is god or son of god. It always confuses me that part coz some say he is god some say he is son of god so how can he be son of himself ?

    1. Dear Zen.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      Your question:

      If Jesus is god, as some say he is son of god, so how can he be son of himself ?

      My reply:

      God the Father and God the Son are eternal. They have not beginning, and no end. This is not possible for a human mind to grasp. Because we need borders as a parameter for our understanding of physical beings. But God is Spirit. Such a Master God can only be reveled by the Holy Spirit. And the spirit is always in agreement with God the Father and God the Son. They are One God. Three in One.

      1. Can you quote us from the old testimant where jesus says he is God? or a holy trinity? or would you say that that was written in later on by some random guys? who in the time of roman matholigy new such writings would be very believable.

      2. Dear Chooj.

        Shalom.

        Her is a verse from the Old Testament (Hebrew Bible).

        Isaiah 9:6
        For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

      3. So as soon as this verse was revealed it meant jesus proclaiming himself as God? or was it God who said that jesus is actually God? or maybee it meant a child is borne from the virgin mary (maryiam peace be upon her) and he will be called said names as he will indeed bring piece, those misguided would call him God, and respectfully ofcoarse father. still I see no mention of a holy trinity, nor any proclamation from jesus that he is infact God.

      4. May the God, Jehovah, Yahweh, the Great “I AM” and the Father of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob have mercy on us All. (I sincerely hope my muslim family hasn’t already decided to “off my head” for using God’s biblical names). These are the names God calls himself in our Holy Scriptures. God is only HIS TITLE, not name. Praise be to the God of Creation.
        Before you read on; I ask that you do so, seeking answers. So, in whatever faith you profess and are ready to lay your life down for, you owe it to yourself to find “absolute truth”. Not your Pastors, nor Imams, Priests, parents, cultures, churches, mosques, friends….you get the picture. But YOU Seek Truth and Seek it with all your heart, mind and soul, asking the Father of Abraham, Issac and Jacob for His Wisdom (but you have to really want it).
        I’ll TRY to be brief. Whether we are of different faiths, colors, language, or nations, (because Jehovah created ALL for one simple fact; relationship)! WE all fall prey to the evils and enticements of the great Deceiver – Satan. Whether we DENY we have addictions, have prejudices, we cuss each other out, gossip, from the smallest of sins to the greatest, Satan will always 24/7-365, try to get us to justify our actions.
        We All, as mortal humans created by Jehovah in love, have just ONE Enemy and the devil will stop at nothing to destroy all that Jehovah loves, his people and everything that stands to give him Glory!..yes,.esp. that of His Son, the Christ Jesus. Don’t knock me off just yet!!
        But most sincerely, I can’t accept that our Muslim friends would fight so hard to reject Jesus, and WHO He claim to be, God’s Son, Jehovah’s (whom you call Allah) THE GOD, who spoke ALL of Creation into exsistance.
        With a Spoken Word, it was formed.”The God of the Universe” said it and it exsisted!!

        Is it possible that YOU think, the same God Almighty, shouldn’t have!..couldn’t possibly!.., wouldn’t have!.., come to earth in the person of Jesus Christ? (Immanuel,(God with us), as Jesus was referred to in the book of Isaiah 7:14; by a man hundreds of years before Jesus’ birth). It would seem like you were limiting the God of Heaven and Earth, to our human understanding.

        In Jesus, God refers to himself as the Son, because He had too! He was coming into our world, as we all are, born of a woman Mary, making him a man (still the Almighty, but because of flesh, we was inferior to his divine self) Being man, He(Jesus) did not equal himself to God, his Father, but humbled himself as man should, as we should in servitude and humility. So in addressing (God)Himself as man’s(fleshly inferior) standards He(Jehovah) was the Father. (and if your book says he begot no son, then it’s time to start sincerely asking the God of Abraham/Isaac/Jacob to show you HIS truth, not Christians truth, but the ONE GOD, Jehovah’s truth).
        How (Jesus)this happened? Just as it only took God’s “spoken word” to form the heavens and the earth. It only took “God’s Word”, a Word from Jehovah, to fulfill His promise, prophesied thru many prophets, ordinary men, with hundreds of years between them, men who didn’t know each other, weren’t related, but men with whom Jehovah or his sent angels spoke to (jus’ like God spoke to Abraham, Moses (you believe Mohammed), but in our bible THE God, the Creator of Man, spoke to a lot of Men of Old regarding HIS coming, his birth, even what He would be called, (Emmanuel or Immanuel. In Isaiah 9:6= For to us a child is born to us a son is given and the government will be on his shoulders. And he wil be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.) his Ministry, even His death. Yahweh, came to be ‘THE’ perfect example of the kind of person God calls us to be, the relationship we must have with our Creator and with others.

        Almighty God’s Holy Spirit, is the essence of Yahweh(Gr), so it cannot lie, it cannot do anything apart from God. It is the who, the what, the breath that speaks and does the will of Yahweh. His aura. And it’s his spirit, that spoke Jesus into being conceived by Mary. (To some, get your minds out of the gutter).

        Ok, so now there’s the dispute re: the bible. I confess, as a young Christian, I had problems with understanding the bible myself, it’s definitely not for the simple minded. I can totally understand the argument about the hundreds out there. But as a Christian and a believer in the only one who can save me (not any action of my own, by his Grace). I also understand that there are going to be inconsistencies in the translations, that use to bug me!; but there are NONE when it comes to the whats/the who’s/the where’s/the how’s/the why’s in the BIBLE. The bible had to be translated from it’s latin form to my 1st language which is Samoan. Have you heard of it? The news of Jesus has been with my family for 4 generations now. Where’s Islam? Maybe maybe not, but I haven’t seen a Qur’an yet in my language. Those are just my facts.
        How long do you think my people would have to wait before Allah decides my people knew HIS truth, sincerely.
        Slam me if you want but I’m going to quote Jesus through his friend and eyewitness Matthew in 13:13 “Though seeing; they do not see; though hearing; they do not hear or understand..then it goes on to say in 14 In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah.”..(look up the rest yourself, this is already too long, I apologize).
        Jesus speaks of the ones who will hear of it, yet would not listen and those who would see and still refuse/not to believe.

        But this, I write to those whom I felt were seeking real answers and explanations.
        Lastly, seriously, in regards to forgiveness of sins and Jesus.
        Just because someone calls themselves Christians doesn’t mean they live accordingly. Sadly, these are the ones who give the faith a shameful name. Truth be said, though, Jesus had to come, because Gods laws set in the ancient days before Christ, were also being trampled on, God’s people were falling after cults, idol worshipping, you name it (nothing’s changed you say?), except ONE, His beloved Son.

        In the past in order to atone for your sins, one had to offer up burnt offerings, fast, slaughter a required # of lambs (depending on offense) and pour the blood onto the altar of God…to a point; even those jus’ became rituals.
        Eventually the world turned to their own ways, purifying themselves before the Lord, became so burdensome that they were performed without true repentance(sin no more)neither were truly sorrowful for the offenses against God. So Jesus’ came for the sole purpose of being God’s sacrifical “lamb of God” and the old was no more. The laws still stand, but seeking forgiveness any other way, other then the belief and acceptance of Gods ONE and Only Son’s blood sacrifice for a sinful, rebellious, shameful people is Unforgiveable! Hope you haven’t falled asleep.
        So to all Muslims/Jews/Christians/Confused, may the Father of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob bless you all with sincere love for each other and a longing to grow deep in love and knowledge of Him who SAVES! Oops, by the way, did you know Jacob’s name was later changed to ISRAEL!! Seriously, find out whose side you’re on.
        If do, respond with real ?’s, if not, keep it to yourself. Jesus’ is not up for debate….IT IS FINISHED!! Your choice, is all.

      5. Dear Leova3

        Shalom, and welcome to this site.

        Please write short messages. You are free to post multiple comments.

    2. Firstly, i won’t answer any more fanatic replies from the ever so deluded nutter gloria or iven or whatever the hell he’s called. yeh, yeh, jesus christ will save my sorry ass one day etc etc. that’s all uve been telling us ‘sinners’ muslims right?

      so that i stay on the subject zen here asks, i wanna ask christians this question. no one take offence.

      How the HELL is jesus god’s kid? Is he like an illegitimate, or as we all know it, a ‘bastard’ in that case? Did god come and get busy with Mary and have this kid? please explain?!! I mean, mary was a virgin right? not married, correct? so where does GOD come into this picture? at least muslims believe that jesus was a miracle child, born WITHOUT a father. do us see the golden difference?

      U on the other hand, had to go and put GOD into all of this. Shaemful.

      So, please explain this discrepancy to readers and maybe even, yourself.

      please gloria and co, dont bombard me with wishes to repent, or call me blasphemous etc. and dont quote me random verses from your book. or even the quran in that case, i dnt need to hear crap about our holy book from a deranged lunatic like u. remember, u started with the prophet slandering urself. i read soooo many references to Muhammed (SAW) being a liar, deluded, crazy, rapist and all that shiiiit from u and co. u startd it, that was a very childish thing to do.

      ur christ is a bastard = fact you r constantly reminding us here and u ALL believe in.

      peace to all who want it…

      1. Dear Angry.

        Shalom, and welcome to this site.

        I do not believe other Muslims will approve of your bad language.

        For all followers of Jesus, you are a good example of a man that need to change his ways. Its is called “repent or perish”.

        Jesus came into the World, so save sinners like you. Jesus loves you, and wants you to worship Him.

      2. Angry,

        Ivar is right. There is no reason for you to speak in such a horrendous manner.

        The truth is in the bible. Mohammed was a false prophet, and the Holy Word of God warned us about false teachers like this.

        No one is forcing you to choose God over Mohammed. But I still pray that Christ touches your heart, and that you see the truth before it’s too late.

        God Bless.

  12. Once again you have proved your ignorance,no christian it seems will defend you because they know as little as you about christianity. if i may refer to the verse you quoted above, suah[5v33]. Have you not heard of the people of Nuh (Noah) peace be upon him? do you not know of Sodom and Gomorrah? the people of Lut, Saleh? clearly u are very ignorant. to repeat, “jesus is your saviour, he died for your sins,” shows what little knowledge you actually have. Further all the promiscuities you have mentioned are signs of the Last day as referred to by the person you had replied to. How misinformed are you honestly?
    Also muslims killing muslims? what rubbish are you talking about? the fact that your web page is filled with muslims with a more passionate opinion and with clear views than yours is a sign that Islam is the true religion.

  13. God should be Merciful and Powerful….which indeed i believe He is….then why He needs to sacrifice His son to remove the sins of others??? Couldn’t He kept His only 1 son and just forgive Christians???

    1. Dear Leedz.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      How could God give His Son to be crucified.

      The Bible says, that without the shedding of blood, there can be no remission of sins. The Jews was told to be sacrificial, and give to God the best they had. Blood sacrifice was the very sign that a Jew was willing to listen to God and Obey Him. Just think about Abraham, who was willing to give up the life of his son.

      Why the blood of the only Son of God?

      God saw the wickedness of man, and how Lucifer was leading us all into sin, He decided to find the ultimate solution. God hate sin, there is no place for sins in the Kingdom of Heaven. Someone had to pay the penalty for the wickedness of man.

      Jesus gave up His life for free. He is the perfect Lamb of God that took away the sins of the World. He and no one else.

      Lucifer is still around. God and all of us have a powerful enemy.

      1. to Ivarfjeld

        I do apologize and will do better in the future, if…
        I edited it so much that it took me up to 5am to finish. My bad, brother, Ivarfjeld.
        Jus’ didn’t want the msg lost in 5-6 different short ones. Have a great weekend ALL. Glory to Jehovah.

      2. Dear leova3

        Shalom.

        Thanks for blessing me.

        It is my experience, that people do not read long comments. That is why I advised you to write shorter messages, and make a few points in each of them.

        I am sorry that you spent the night preparing this message. But i know that Jesus the Messiah are preparing people for ministry, using them to minister around the clock.

        May the Jewish Messiah bless you, with all kinds of heavenly blessings.

  14. Hi
    To fellow muslims please don’t use any filty language, this is against the teachings. if someone says something wrong about quran or prophet(PBUH) than try to explain but never abuse. two wrong things does not make things right.
    to Christian friends please read the quran. don’t follow the media and actions of minority muslims. I completely agree manay muslims killin non muslims in the name of Islam and Jihad but this is totally against the quranic teachings. Many non muslims and media mention Quran teached muslims to kill non muslims. this is completely quoted out of context.

    1. Dear Ryman.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      I support your pledge to all of us, not to use filthy language.

      Please explain this verse from the Koran:

      [Sura 5:33]
      «The just retribution for those who fight God (Allah) and His messenger (Muhammad), and commit horrendous crimes, is to be killed, or crucified, or to have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or to be banished from the land. This is to humiliate them in this life, then they suffer a far worse retribution in the Hereafter».

      1. About that verse u keep askin about does it not seem similar to wat u wrote about sayin that ( the bible said that without the shedding of blood, there can b no remission of sins) now does that mean that both religions believe in blood shed or u still gonna carry on contradicting ur self ?

      2. Dear Zen.

        The Bible do say this. Let me give you the Bible verse:

        First, the Old Testament, The Hebrew Bible:

        Exodus 24:8

         8 Moses then took the blood, sprinkled it on the people and said, “This is the blood of the covenant that the LORD has made with you in accordance with all these words.”

        And this is the New Testament of the Bible.

        Hebrews 9:20-23 

        20He said, “This is the blood of the covenant, which God has commanded you to keep.”[a] 21In the same way, he sprinkled with the blood both the tabernacle and everything used in its ceremonies. 22In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.

      3. So tell me then if shedding of blood is wat it takes to be pure y do u condem it so much ? Let me tell u some small facts Gloria
        1*in the the wake of 9-11 there were 5000 Jews workin in the twin towers bt none turned up for work on that day
        2* no matter way building it is in the world unless it is bombed from the base it will not collapse the way the towers did. U and me both know the planes hit the top.
        3* and if a Muslim had taken out this attack do u not think he would save fellow Muslims rather then Jews ?
        4* do u know there are so much raw material in afhanistan that America can produce gas and other sources from that country as well as use the country to run pipes through to get oil from Iraq to them
        5* it is all politics which wants us muslims and Christians to fight it’s Been a tactic for the politicians for a long time coz religion is such a sensitive subject which they can exploite any time they want to run the ppl’s attention away from the real truth of wat they r up to.
        Hope u have the time and the broadness of mind to try and think bout wat I’m sayin. Because don’t for get it was not the Muslims of abriham that supported Mohammed (pbuh) bt it was the Christians that knew who he was and wer the ones to offer him protection.

    1. Dear A Juneja.

      Shalom, and thanks for this question.

      There is a rumor among Muslims that Pastor Bob is dead. Please google, and you will see that no reliable News Source can confirm this rumor.

      Can someone please give this pastor a call, and confirm?

      1. ivar
        hes your christain friend why dont you give him a call and ask him how hes doing…and tell him hes going to be in hell from me thankx

      2. Sfm,

        Because he’s (pastor bob) says he’s christian does not mean he adhere’s to God’s word. His burning of a book is not what Jesus would have done.

        1 Peter 3:15 But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,

        And again sfm, stop sending people to hell. Only God brings judgment.

        1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one will receive his commendation from God.

  15. As salaam wa aliakum to one and all

    with regards to your question about the Sura 5 :33
    Please also read from Sura 5 :31
    You will notice that the koraan is speaking about the killing of a brother or person ( MURDER)
    It is within this context that Sura 5 :33 arises with punishment.
    Every country has their form of punishment therfore i think the koraan is no different.
    You cannot applaud someone for horrendous crimes they have to be punished. And also the punishment for murder in this world is a mere fraction compared to the hereafter as only GOD ALMIGHTY has the right to take life.

  16. Fuck url dirry mother fuckers. Url gona burn in jahannam bitchs ! Ima slit pastor ol cocks neck like qurbani ! I will make sure of it. I got ALLAH on my side

    1. @mafia Allah on your side, Allah does not like swearing or insulting another human being. Please first read Islam properly, because of people like you people r insulting our religion, Islam. using F word will solve the problem.

  17. the verse your quoting is taken out of context i’ll quote the verses around it to show you what a muppet you are:

    31 Then Allah sent a raven scratching up the ground, to show him how to hide his brother’s naked corpse. He said: Woe unto me! Am I not able to be as this raven and so hide my brother’s naked corpse ? And he became repentant.

    32 For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah’s Sovereignty), but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth.

    33 The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;

    34 Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

    funny how you cut and paste bits that suit your agenda, we could do the same from the bible does that mean all christians are killers too ?

    http://www.sacred-texts.com//isl/pick/005.htm

    1. The lies told in that book are horrendous.

      I hope you repent, and ask Jesus Christ for forgiveness.

      John 12:48
      The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day.

      1. U have just proved that u have only one brain cell in that head of ur’s galoria coz up to now I have not come across a person with a stuck record like ur’s. It’s not even worth havin a debate with u coz it seems like u have never questioned ur self and r brain washed good luck with ur one track mind

      2. Dear Zen.

        Shalom, and let me tell you that I will spam your next mail. Such meaningless comments are not welcomed on this site. Now I have warned you.

      3. Dear Brothers and Sisters,

        Please study the scriptures carefully (at a level of intelligence with a certificate to prove it before you start becoming an authority on comparative religion)before you start showering us with your primitive thoughts and ideas.

        Seek knowledge with an open heart and the truth will guide you!!!

        If you cannot agree with each other, at least say this ” I have my own religion, and you have your own” -believe me, there is no compulsion in religion. Each and every individual is accountable for their own deeds and will surely meet their lord and creator – Allah.

      4. Dear Anon.

        Shalom, and tanks for a message of calm and peace.

        Jesus did not come to start his own religion. He came to save a world of sinners, like me and you. God the Father can not accept sin in the eternal Kingdom of Heaven. We all need to be saved by the blood of Jesus.

        I have no problem to live in peace with Muslims. I have Muslim friends, and a Muslim do even work for my family. You can be sure of one thing. I will never harm any of them.

        I am not so sure that no Muslim will try to harm me. He might even think He is doing so, doing something great for “allah”.

      5. Dear brother Ivar…your last comment about muslims might harm you.. is insulting because in the world we living in it is not only muslims that commit crimes..Scroll up (YOUR PASTOR) its all religions and nations. IT IS YOUR OPINION THAT OUR HOLY BOOK THE QURAAN PROMOTES VIOLENCE>>>> AS WE ALL KNOW THAT IS NOT TRUE… FACTS TALK NOT YOUR OPINION.
        LOOKING at yours and glorias hatered for muslims one mite say you will kill.Coz your god didnt teach you peace.

      6. Dear Huzaifah

        Shalom, and welcome back.

        I want to ask you to explain this verse from the Koran to me. I admit, I have a lot to learn about the Koran, and Islam.

        [Sura 5:33]
        «The just retribution for those who fight God (Allah) and His messenger (Muhammad), and commit horrendous crimes, is to be killed, or crucified, or to have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or to be banished from the land. This is to humiliate them in this life, then they suffer a far worse retribution in the Hereafter».

    1. Dear mhus.

      Shalom, and thanks for this link.

      I am not sure that the Pope has killed 50 million people. But it is true that the Vatican is responsible for killing a lot of people.

      Followers of Jesus of the Bible are not allow to kill anyone. We are suppose to bless even our enemy. That is one of the reason why Christians do not look up on the Catholic Pope as a true Christian. We will rather say the pope is an anti-Christ, a false teacher that has deceived people from all nations.

  18. Please note; literally, the Bible means two books, which is the combination of the old testament and the new testament, the old testament describes events before Christ and revelations were given by prophets about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the new testaments describes event during the life of Christ, so the old testament on its own does not make a complete Bible because the critical for Christians (Christ followers)n would have been left out, which is salvation, the issue of salvation is enshrined in the new testament.

    Also be informed that Christ mentioned it no where in the Bible that a prophet is coming after Him. He said I will send you a comforter and which is the Holy Spirit who direct us into all truths, and even if He did say a prophet is coming, how do you come to terms that it is muhammed?

    Muslims seem to believe some accounts in the quran that contradict events in the Bible forgetting to ask themselves, which between this two books is the original? One can imagine the quran giving account of what Christ said, and the quran was written thousands of years after Christ left….have these muslims come to terms with this? Muslims dogedly follow the quran not even very well sure how the quran came into existence, but believing the quran was sent by angels, and written in arabic….

    but what was the significance of the quran written in arabic and not any other languagen as at that time, there were many languages….there are so many loopholes to realise the quran is fake, but the muslims won’t come to terms with it, and they are being forced to believe what is enshrined in the quran.

    Jesus said ‘all power in heaven and heart has been given unto Him’ He further said ‘no man can see God except through Him’ and He came to remmit the sins of the world…He died and we have second chance…He said it is finished, if it is finished, then what did muhammed came to do? Someone please tell what was muhammed message for all the years he spent on earth, what message did he bring from God to people? The so called muslims didn’t even know.
    If the muslims have so much energy to protest against those who want to burn their quran, then they should go and use that efforts to stop those who are tanishing the image of their religion, to stop killing in the name of their allah. Can any man fight for God?

    1. As salaam wa aliakum

      You contradict yourself… Hows is it you belive what the new testament says about jesus even though it was written…after his death… BUT YOU FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE WHAT IS WRITTEN IN THE QURAAN WHEN IT TO WAS REVEALED AFTER THE DEATH OF CHRIST>>>

      BY THE WAY THE QURAAN was not brought by angels… it was revealed to Prophet Muhammed ( S.A.W )

      Why is it in the old testament it state that jesus said there will be another prophet after him… because muhammed was the next prophet. Check the hindu scriptures , bible ,etc…

      Revelation 20:11-15
      And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened.
      Then another book was opened, which is the book of life.( THIS BOOK IS THE QURAAN BCOS OUR QURAAN IS A WAY OF LIFE>>>)ISLAM IS A WAY OF LIFE

      Please note our quraan does not state bad of any prophet… but the christians now speak bad of other religions…

      Jesus never claimed to be god in any book… it is the interpretations of translators that say a certain verse in the bible states he proclaimed to be god….

      HOW CAN GOD DIE??? You complain when we say jesus was a mere mortal but you too say his mortal..coz you say HE DIED … HOW CAN HE IF HE WAS GOD??? You tell me god should eat, drink, defecate like us mere mortals…

      1. Huzaif,

        Isn’t it convenient for you that you write one verse of Revelation 20 and then twist it to suit your need in believing the lies told by the devil.

        The whole Revelation 20 verses 11-15 verse actually reads:

        And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

        And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

        And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

        And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

        And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

        Notice where it says: AND IS SAW THE DEAD, SMALL, AND GREAT STAND BEFORE GOD.

        That proves that there is only one God, and that is God, the alpha and omega.

      2. Thank you gloria so you contradict yourself… We muslims believe in one god…..Not Father , son and holy spirit… in one????

        You say one god but pray to 3

      3. Huzaif,

        I will tell you again: God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are not 3 separate.

        Matthew 28:16-20

        16Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

    2. Jason, Jason, jason,
      Before saying something like “the so called muslims dont even know”, why don’t you try speaking to one? I will address all the issues that you have with islam as best as i can.

      The fact that the Bible was altered by man, whereas the Quran was not holds enough to say that the Quran is CLOSER to the message that was passed down onto us by God than the bible. Can you deny that?

      Also, you mentioned the Quran and the Bible having contradictions between them as a means of taking away from the Quran’s credibility, since the Bible came first (which is of course true). You seem to forget that versions of the bible have had things ommitted from them whereas others havent. That means that two Christians can have two different views on something solely based on the version of the bible that they use. Is that credible? Man made alterations to the source of Christianity, the DIVINE book, DIVINE meaning Godly. How can it be godly if it is being altered by man, who is anything BUT godly?

      The Quran was written in ARABIC because it was revealed in a time and location where the arabic language was the prevailing language.

      “And thus: We have revealed to you a Quran in Arabic so that you may warn the Foremost of all towns and those who dwell around it, and may warn of the Day of Gathering, which is beyond all doubt. One group will be in the Garden, and one group will be in the Flames.” (Quran 42:7)

      In the same way, the original testament of the Bible was revealed in Hebrew, as that was the prevailing language at that time and that location. So how can you even try to link the language of the book to its credibility, without understanding the reasoning?

      Mohammed (pbuh) came in a time where God was thought to be a “Trinity” and no longer only Himself, one entity. Since that reality was altered, and Jesus (pbuh) and the Holy spirit were believed to be parts of God, then there WAS IN FACT a message to be delivered! he was sent to correct this wrong perception that people had at that time. He came to tell them that God is ONE. The message came along with the miracle of a book that will not be altered and that will hold the message of God intact, without human intervention, until our final day. As you can see, until this very day, there is only ONE version of the Quran, so his miracle has stood fast.

      One more thing, if Jesus Christ (pbuh) truly WAS the son of God, and therefore a god himself, and God is timeless and eternal, then how can you believe that Jesus, if he was actually born in the middle of our timeline, was himself a God? Also if Jesus truly was a god, then why is it that in the Torat, which is the previous book to the bible, there is only one God? That tells us that Jesus is not timeless, and therefore cannot be a God. Thank you for your time.

      1. I forgot to add that another part of this message that mohammed was to reveal was that God does not give birth and was not born.

      2. I will take your inability to argue any of the points i have mentioned as further credibility to what i had to say, so thank you 🙂

      3. Dear all followers of Muhammad.

        Shalom.

        The difference between Islam and the teachings of Jesus, is that Jesus claimed to be divine. He claimed to be equal to His father God in Heaven.

        John 10:30
        I and the Father are one.

        Muhammad seems to be of a different opinion. But He walked on Earth 600 years after Jesus. What Muhammad has told you will not change Jesus, God the Son, the only Gate you can pass to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

      4. Thats what you could come up with? and here i am waiting for you to show me why i’m wrong and why you are right.
        I will pray for you too, may God remove the veil that is covering your eyes and guide you to the truth.

      5. gloria,

        and they were judged every man according to their works.

        how can i be judged when i was being saved by jesus before i commit sins?

        your bible contradict with what you preach.

    1. Dear Aisha.

      Shalom, and thanks for all kinds of comment.

      You wrote:

      Inshallah he is dead but more likely to be a silly hopefull rumour!

      My reply:

      I feel your are cursing this man, and bring a curse up on your own head. I thought Muslims had the desire to save people?

  19. Peace be upon those who follow true Guidance,
    brothers and sisters please stop using the bad laugage and have some Respect for each other.
    How Ignorant many people are that they have NEVER read the Quran and they make soo many bad coments and judgements.
    ISLAM is the final messege from God to the world, Muslims belive in the same God of Abraham,Isaac,ishmeal, Jesus john Mary, Moses and ALL the prophets of the new and old Testiment, prophet Muhammad has been metioned in MANY religious books Around the world Including the Old and new Testiment the book of the Hindus.
    Now I challenge EVERY SINGLE christain or ANY other person from ANY Faith to READ the Quran from cover to cover and see for yourselves what the Quran says.
    You will get your Answer after just Reading the First few pages that I can assure you,
    many Islamic shops all over the world have free copys so please go and get yourselves one.
    Or log onto
    http://www.islamtomorrow.com/default.asp
    this site is by a ex christain precher from Texas USA
    there are many KNOWLEDGBLE christains all over the world coming to Islam so see for yourselves don’t take my word for it search on utube and the net and you will see.

    1. Dear Joe.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      You wrote:

      Islam is the final message from God.

      My reply:

      Islam explains to us through the Koran in Sura [23:91: GOD has never begotten a son……

      If so, John 3:16 of the Bible is false.

      John 3:16 (New King James Version)

      16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

      Either the Koran or the Bible is a falsehood in regards to the divinity of Jesus as God the Son.

      1. If one of them is false in that regard, and the Quran we know has not been tampered with by man, whereas the bible has. Then which is more likely to be false in that certain element of divinity that you speak of? I am only trying to help you guys see the light, god bless your souls, you and gloria, you seem to be very good, pious people.

      2. Are you serious, the Quran was written by a man who murdered people. You can’t get much more “tampered” than that.

        I too am trying to show you the way is and the only way is JESUS CHRIST.

        John 14:6
        Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

      3. You believe in David and Moses right? they are mentioned in your book as PROPHETS, am i right? Well if you are gona use the “murderer” card, then you would equally have to condemn David and Moses for the same thing. Were they also bad people? Or would it perhaps make more sense to say that different prophets used different approaches depending on the situations they had to deal with? Also, the quran was not creatively written by mohammed (pbuh), it was passed onto him by the angel Gabriel.

      4. Are you Serious,

        Moses believed in God, and because of that God used him to spread the truth.

        I believe in Christ.

        Ephesians 2:8-9
        For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

      5. Dearest Gloria,
        Please answer these two simple question for me. Was the bible edited by mankind or was it not? Also, Did David and Moses killing people make them less of prophets? Because you cannot use the argument that Mohammed was a murderer if you are not gonna apply it to all prophets. That is contradictory.

      6. Are you Serious,

        God forgives all sinners who repent.

        Mohammed taught lies from the devil. He never said that sin can be forgiven if we accept JESUS CHRIST.

      7. Dear all readers.

        This debate is now closed.

        Thanks for making this an interesting debate. Welcome back to debate other topics.

        May Jesus the Messiah, Son of God bless you all.

      8. Dear all readers, and lovers of a good debate.

        Shalom.

        Since we all have had some time to cool down, I will again open this article for comments.

        But if there is only insults in the pipeline, I will close down the debate again.

        Please respect people with other viewpoints than yours.

  20. This Pastor guy is dirty mother fucker, who fucks his mum up the bum hole. His got nothing better to do the mother fucking peadophile bastard.

    Dirty perverts like him are gonna get it big time. The mother fucker can’t handle that Islam is king of all religions and his man made pussy religion hides behined the internet commiting pussy ball shrinking acts.

    If you thing you’re big you dirty mother fuckers come face to face, lets see you fucking pussys.

    You think you can hide on your www and do shit like this and Islam will break. Think again mother fucker. Islam is a powerful religion and will always be in top.

    You thick bastard thanks for your uniting the muslims more and making us a force to be reckon with.

    1. Dear Usman.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      With such a filthy language, I do not think even “Allah” want to have your as a follower. I guess your prophet Muhammad never permitted you to talk like this?

      If I am wrong, please show me verses from the Koran who permit such talks.

  21. in a nutshell, the bible is a word from humans – HUMANS have written it not god! the new testament is what people have made up!!! the QURAN HAS NEVER CHANGED, U ALL SAY IT IS A BOOK OF HATE – Y DONT U READ THE QURAN AND SEE IF IT IS A BOOK OF HATE AND STOP GOING BY WHAT THE MEDIA SAYS!!!

    1. Dear Asiyah Gul.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      Muhammad did not write down the Koran. The Koran was written down by men.

      I have read some parts of the Koran. The most disturbing is the more that 140 verses that speaks about forcing others to believe in the Koran.

      Jihad is an order from Muhammad. I guess the large majority of Muslims who do not want to cripple and kill others, but there are also Muslims that take these verses at face value. I guess that is why we have Islamic suicide bombers.

      For us who are not Muslims, is seems that Islam is its own worst enemy. We who believe in the message of love told by Jesus, are pretty harmless.

      1. once again brother IVAR the quraan is words of god complied not… Muhammed’s words… YOU SHOULD GET THIS HATRED FOR MUHAMMED OUT OF YOU SYSTEMS>>> HE WAS A GREAT MAN BETTER THAN JESUS>

        INSTEAD OF CHOOSING VERSES READ WHOLE WHOLE QURAAN>>> BY CHOOSING VERSES YOU JUST YOU A PART OF THE VERSE TO PROVE A POINT>

    2. Huzaifah,

      You said: Mohammed was a greater man than Jesus.

      Mohammed was just a man period. JESUS IS KING AND WILL BE COMING SOON.

      Remember:

      Matthew 12:37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.

      1. Dear Gloria.

        Shalom.

        I had to go out for a while. I can see you are doing good. When people insult you, please return a blessing.

      2. Ivar,

        My sister in law looked up to the sky and saw Jesus Christ looking down at earth in tears.

        This breaks my heart. But I continue to move on, spreading the Word of Christ, because while there is still breath in their lungs, they can repent and accept God.

      3. Sorry you yourself said.. he died… gods cannot die or be crucified…only human mortals die… So he was a man… Yes he will come soon to show the christians the right path.

      4. Sorry brother ivar
        she was 8 and only lived with him when she was mature… get facts first.
        Yes he did have many wives…. because he did not believe in adultery… so he MARRIED THEM.

      5. Sister gloria the fact that you cannot answer all the questions we pose… shows how less you know about your own religion..

        No it was not digusting…because he was’nt would her till she was mature… AYESHA marriage to the prophet was the word of god.

        Read about his life before asking stupid questions.

      6. Huzaifah

        Shalom.

        I am very touched by your comment. Thanks for addressing Gloria as sister. It is true, that God of Israel wants all of us to become brothers and sisters.

        I do not believe there are stupid questions. I only believe there are bad answers.

  22. Interesting article written by sister Nancy Shehata regarding the divinity of Christ. Its long, but worth the read!

    Bismillahi Rahmani Rahim 

    Salaam Alaikum wa Rahmatullah

    I am a revert to Islam.  Over the years, people have asked me hundreds of times why I converted to Islam.  Did I covert to please a husband?  No.  Did I convert after hearing a particularly moving sermon?  No.  I converted out of conviction after studying Christianity, Judaism, and Islam.

    Perhaps it’s the German in me, but I appreciate the logical consistency of Islam.  Since the creation of the first man, Adam, peace be upon him, Islam has always taught the same simple unequivocal message of tauheed, belief in the Oneness of God. It’s a simple message, but profound.

    But Christians believe in one God also, don’t they?  Christianity and Judaism are considered to be monotheistic religions, right?  Well, they may be called that, but Christians fell into idol worship when they decided to treat Jesus, peace be upon him, as a deity rather than what he was, a prophet of God.

    Fi Aman Allah,

    Nancy

    1. Dear Farzana

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      I shortened your comment. Please write more, and make them short.

      I am also a convert. I was an atheist, and I did not believe there was an “Allah”, and surely not a “Jesus”.

      But reading the Bible, I came across the most loving person that has ever walked on Earth. His message is about love, and true peace. Give your life to Jesus the Messiah. Let Him reign in your heart.

      1. Jhanh.

        Shalom, and welcome to this site.

        You asked a very good question: Are the trinity mentioned in the Bible.

        Let me give you the best example:

        Luke 3:22
        and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.”

        (end of scripture).

        Here Father God speaks about His Son, and the Holy Spirit comes in the form of a dove.

        Beautiful.

    2. I strongly believe, you were not a christian and if accidently you were, you know not about Christ and now you couldnt even deeply share your conviction towards converting to islam….what do you mean by believe in oneness of God, did any one argue that God is twenty? and please note consider your choice of word cos no christian treats Jesus as a deity…..’no one come to the father except through me (Jesus) and except a man is born again he can not see the kingdom of God (Jesus)

      1. Nancy,

        Islam is a false religion created by satan.

        Peter 2:1 ESV / 6 helpful votes
        But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.

      2. Dear all our Muslims friends.

        Shalom.

        On of the challenges with Islam, is that there was no Koran before 630 A.D.

        How could Arabs get saved before Muhammad showed them the way?

        The Arabs in Mecca was Moon good worshipers. They has an idol for each day, and Muhammad removed them all but one.

        Have you read about the black stone in Mecca?

        Please read this message.

        https://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2010/03/07/bible-studies-42-muslims-worship-a-black-stone-in-mecca-fallen-from-the-moon/

      3. if jesus spreaded peace and love dnt think he would be happy with your comments….Belittle something you dnt understand… u judge something you dnt know…

        Muhammed came to save mankind just like how you say jesus saved his people…

        But our prophet lived asnd showed the way.

      4. Dear Huzaifah

        Shalom, and thanks for blessing me with an interesting debate.

        You wrote:

        if jesus spreaded peace and love dnt think he would be happy with your comments

        My reply:

        Sometimes Jesus gets tough with people who do not want to believe He is the Messiah, the King of Kings.

        John 8:42
        Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me.

        (end of scripture_

        There can be no true love outside of the truth. If someone is a child of the devil, he or she needs to be told. Dont you agree?

      5. I dnt agree.. forcing someone to change christianity… will not work… you show someone facts , do it would love… and understanding. Not by calling what they believe lies… You prove a point by showing what you believe is true… answering questions that was posed to you.
        Not by ridiculing the persons belief…
        it will only show a person that your religion teaches to belittle, and put other peoples beliefs down.

      6. Dear Huzaifah

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        Not by ridiculing the persons belief…

        My reply:

        If you feel that I have made fun of your faith, I do sincerely apologize.

  23. Dear mhus,

    well done!

    we need people with knowledge about our holy Quran to answer the people who try to defame our religion by taking things out of context. Ignorance is a fatal thing as we all know and it can easily mislead people.

    May ALLAH (swt)bless every human in this world with an opportunity to fully study ISLAM before making any judgements. We, muslims, respect all religions and wouldn’t even think about burning bible. This shows muslims are peace loving. About burning our holy book, ALLAH has taken the resposibuility of protecting HIS message so burning one or two copies can’t do any harm to our faith or religion. Don’t forget even if there isn’t only Holy Quran left in this world, there are millions of muslims (Hafiz) around the world who have Holy Quran saved in their hearts, now how can anyone erase that???

    1. Dear AS.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      The difference between Islam and the teaching of Jesus of the Bible, is how we deal with Sin. Islam has no problem with sins, and looks for people who are good or do good works. The problem is: How much good works do “Allah” demand?

      No Muslim can be sure. There is no surely of salvation.

      Jesus do not demand any works. He only wants us to believe that He has paid for our sins. He died as a penalty for our sins. He rose again from the grave as our justification the day we all shall met God our Father.

      1. Dear Crapo.

        Shalom.

        Your comment:

        god has never been born and doesnt have any son. god has been sending prophets to guide us.

        My reply:

        How do you know?

      2. Huzaifah,

        Revelation 20 verse 4 says: I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (NIV)

      3. Dear Huzaifah.

        Shalom, and thanks for a brilliant question.

        Why would God want to walk on Earth?

        Simply because He loved us, and do still love us.

        And if God wanted to walk om Earth, who are we to stop Him from doing so.

        This is the truth. God did come down from Heaven, and took form of a man. This man is Jesus of Nazareth, the savior of the World.

    2. It worries me that muslims only care about being a muslim as a precondition to eternity, can you just reason for yourself and dont be foolish that what eternity entails is religion, if you are a muslim then you are saved…it is very disturbing.
      Why is muhammed the only prophet that deviated from all other prophets doctrines and practices….well to me mohammed was not a prophet, he was a warlord…..was he not fighting war in his days? was that the message he brought from allah….to fight wars….what exactly was his message…..cos if you dont know, prophets are sent with message to the people of God, what was mohammed message?

  24. USMAN – Astaghfirrullah..People like you give us good muslims bad name. There is no need for this sort of language. If you call yourself a muslim and reckon that i will join force with you then your wrong.

    Every human being has the right to chose what he believes..We all forget that the biggest message of Islam is beliving in oneness of god. Muslims believe there is one god, and so do christians and the other main religions, all other differences are due to different interpretation of the words of god. Who knows who is right and who is wrong we will only find out on the day of judgement. As long as we are not harming anyone why cant we follow what we believe in and let each other live in peace and harmony.

    1. Dear Rina

      Shalom, and welcome to this blog.

      Thanks for correcting Usman.

      Please also read my article today about a TV-station who claim to be “Christian”, but is rather promoting a false-Jesus. Likewise within Islam, there are also people who makes a mockery out of their religion.

    2. Actually your going to find out when jesus p.b.u.h returns to our world again and dajjal is here which is a little while before the day of judgement but again thats not something worth discussing with single minded idiots. Live and let live.

  25. dear brothers,
    REPLY to SHALOM

    You all people are fighting about religion,
    WHY? go and read for yourself you will c we are all the sons of adam and eve(written in both bible and quran) buy the cd done by ZAKIR NAIK about the similarities between islam and christianity u will hav some ideas. or check on youtube as well

    if we are all the son of adam and eve peace be upon them how can jesus be the son of god..

    god has never been born and doesnt have any son. god has been sending prophets to guide us, jesus is said to come back because he was the only one who hasnt been able to provide a good understanding and the suppose bible who was suppose to provide a good way of life has been changed by people thats is WHY god send the prophet muhammad(peace be upon him) which what he succeeded.

    in the blble as well its said by jesus himself that there will be another person coming after him which will continue his guide, go and search for it in the bible you will see somewhere that jesus has seen the coming prophet muhammad(peace be upon him) on his thumb nails. you guys need to learn in the books instead of learning another religion by judging people. god has put good and bad for us to choose from, its for us to decide which path to choose.

    islam is said not to be a religion but a way of life and the book quran has been send to help us choose the right path of course for those who have read it and understand it in the RIGHT way. people are bound to make mistakes and thats WHY god created the path for forgiveness. if you SHALOM are thinking thats islam is a bad religion after the terror attack your are wrong my friend. these people have done a mistake and its them who will pay for there mistake and we are not here to judge the religion by people who have done mistakes. have we people ever tried to burn the bible, no because it out of respect, now what this guy has done will be bound for some people to make sins by trying to burnt the bible as well which will create a big disaster in this world like wars, so stop your act against religion because we cant judge a religion by looking at people. we judge a religion by looking at the holy books.

    its said as well those who try to harm the quran will bring harm to themselves not other people of that religion. god has been fair to evryone so understand the thing which i hav told you guy to look for on youtube and understand it rather than giving some kind of unnecessary comment which in turn may lead to wars fight hatred. i would be gratefull to u SHALOM if u understand and get out of your hate of muslim because i can see a lot of hatred for muslim in your comment. DONT JUDGE A RELIGION BY PEOPLE ACT, BUT RATHER JUDGE IT OF WHAT IS SAID IN THE HOLY BOOKS. those disgusting act you have seen are all mistake commited by people not the religion.

    i would be gratefull to u SHALOM if you go search for it before you put unnecessary comment.

    1. Crappo:

      John 10 verse 25:30 says: 25Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The miracles I do in my Father’s name speak for me, 26but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. 29My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[d]; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are one.”

  26. So many replies from muslims. It is a sad sight to see.

    Christ said in the final days: 2 Timothy 3
    This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

    I have been witness to several things (Thank you Jesus), and one of them was angel who stood less than a foot from me. I cannot describe how “perfect” it was to be in the presence of Christ. The light surrounding the angel was so bright, but the perfection I felt was the most beautiful thing Christ has ever allowed me to see. Acts 2:17 says:
    “‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.”

    I pray that you will see the truth and repent. Because just as I was in the presence of Christ, at a different time, I have also seen what awaits those who do not repent. It is not pretty, it is not what you think it is, and it is extremely evil. I can tell you many stories of how Christ has allowed me to see things, but I tell you it all boils down to this:

    Luke 13:3 No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.

    James 2:19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!

    I PRAY TO JESUS CHRIST OUR GOD that you read this, and that you are touched, and it makes you pick up the HOLY BIBLE to seek Christ.

    God Bless.

    1. Dear Gloria.

      Shalom.

      So many replies, and so much interest to know the truth about Jesus: You should feel blessed, and welcome all of them to keep on commenting. Muslims, Buddhist or Hindus. It does not matter. The truth about the blood of Jesus that cleanses us from all sins, are the same.

      1. Huzaifah,

        THE HOLY WORD OF GOD SAYS:
        Romans 14:10-12
        Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.

      2. huzaifah

        can you please reference your statement that mohammed is the last prophet of God? and can you please reference who proclaim that there will be another prophet like mohammed and how come mohammed if he was a prophet departed from the faith that was even before His father and mother?

      3. No i will not retract my statement.

        Gloria u write such a verse but but you pass judgement on others and there religion..

        Jason dnt u even no ur old testament… jesus says their will be another prophet after me…. look it up… i have seen it ..u havnt

  27. Its disheartening that the devil continues to use religion to divide the people of God…..we all have one creator….one belief of paradise, whether it be on earth or on another realm…..but yet religion….christianity, islam and the rest of them divide us….just like the men who were building the tower of babel we have all become confused….let everyman live a righteous life and have faith in God…that is all that is required….

    1. manna pls dont be misguided and dont misguide people…..if you believe in Christ then you will believe in His teachings…Jesus Christ gave a precondition to eternity and He said….no man shall see God except through Him and He further said except a man is born again, then there is no eternal life…so its not just about being righteous….have you forgotten that our righteousness is like a filthy thing in the presence of God for every one born of man is a sinner. Jesus himself as an example went through the rebirth through baptism

  28. Thank God for i found Christ and i was made to believe strongly in the remmition of sin via the shedding of blood on the cross of calvary….i wont give in to propangada.

    So many muslims here have ordered us to read the quran, but i object blatantly to misguidance….the only thing i know is worrying those who are muslims is that they have been misguided…..and the only consequence for lack of understanding is that people will perish, so seek first understanding.

    Sorry i cant quote the sura but i once read an electronic quran which i read “those who will not make heaven, christians and pegan’…but how come the supposed holy book is judgemental? dont judge so that you shall not be judged.

    Bible is not complete and not right according to many muslims, but about 70% of whats in the quran are culled and turned around to satisfy human need from the bible.

    Mohammed said and i quote in his last day to his disciple “i am going and those of you that are behind, find out which is the truth and even if it will take you to go to china….go and find out the truth’ can someone tell me what truth he was talking about? cos if a prophet bring a message from God then he must have brought the truth….fair enough as a repentant in the last day that he was he affirmed that he didnt actually bring the truth…that he was actually not a prophet of God, but its a shame that the muslims leave this kind of loopholes and proclaim shadows from the quran.

    1. Dear Jason.

      Shalom.

      Thank you for sharing your faith in Jesus with all our guests today. We have passed 11.000 Muslims as visitors within 24 hours.

  29. Nnanna,

    John 3: 16″For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

    There is no other way!

    1. Dear Jason

      Shalom.

      Your comment:

      ahaha!!!! quran was burnt….if it was truly holy book of God then it would have refused to burn…atleast we will have a sign….

      My reply:

      Please do not pass such comments. If you put fire to a Bible, I guess it will burn. Followers of Jesus should not indulge them selves in wickedness.

      1. should we burn the bible and see if it refuses to burn…

        god you say such stupid things…
        think man

        Everything is made from paper.

      1. Dear Sarwat Fatima.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        the people hanged your so called god him being god could not do anything for himself…this is just a holy book…

        My reply:

        This is an interesting observation. Many people feel that Jesus did not accept to be crucified. The radical opposite is the truth.

        John 10:17-19

        The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”

        (end of scripture)

        Jesus gave up His life because He loved you.

  30. Thanks pastor the Quran in a filthy hand like urs is no good and in Islam we belive that to dispose of the Quran in the proper way with respect is to burn it you done us a favour thanks

  31. Jack,

    As a believer in Christ, though we do not believe anything in the quaran, the HOLY BIBLE says:

    1 Peter 3:15
    But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,

  32. God will punish those he needs to, Pastor has tryed to disgrace christians and there race, just the way terrorists are labelled as muslims, people, you need not worry about what & who is the attention seekers of the world, but brace yourselves to the day of judgement, when all will be revealed….

    Care for everyone, show love to everyone, bring peace where you can,

    Ameen

  33. PLEASE DONT ENTERTAIN THIS BLOG.

    All they are trying to do is intice you, they claim to have read the Holy Quran and have misquoted as they choose.
    Surley they will never beleive!

    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful

    Say: O disbelievers! (1) I worship not that which ye worship; (2) Nor worship ye that which I worship. (3) And I shall not worship that which ye worship. (4) Nor will ye worship that which I worship. (5) Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion. (6)

  34. When I read the posts by Gloria and ivarfjeld I cannot understand why people are so stubborn and full of hate like this !

    You dont want to open your eyes ! You believe in what YOU think is the truth ! Have you ever read the Bible you are quoting yourself or have it been explained to you by someone else ? I dont believe you read the Bible because you would not have reacted like this ! The Bible WAS God’s word but then it was re-written and abridged thus falsified ! Even the Pope knows this go ask him if he is honest ! (With all due respect to the Pope !)

    I am a Muslim and I am proud to be one. And the more hate you have for me the stronger I will be ! So go on guys ! Feed me with your hate ! And the Quran said the truth that you disbelievers will live in fear ! That you are doing ! You living in fear !

    Allah Bless all good people and wrath on all who calling His Prophet Satan !

    1. Dear Likisormala

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      You wrote:

      I am a Muslim and I am proud to be one. And the more hate you have for me the stronger I will be ! So go on guys ! Feed me with your hate.

      My comment:

      I am sad that you feel it this way, and please correct me where I have wronged you. I deeply respect you for being a Muslim. But in my view Muhammad did not teach correctly about Jesus being the Only way to Heaven, and It is my duty to tell you this. If I did not tell you this, I would in deed hate you.

      Because I love you very much, I will tell you the truth. Even if you will strongly disagree with me.

    2. Likisormala,

      Ivar nor I hate no one. It is with love and care for you that we share with you the word of Christ
      1 Peter 3:15
      But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,

      You say we don’t want to open our eyes? Our eyes and hearts are open to the only one who saved us JESUS CHRIST. Romans 5:8 But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

      Only JESUS CHRIST brings judgment. It is written in THE HOLY WORD OF GOD: Romans 14:10-12 Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.

      1. What a bunch of hypocrites ! If only you believe in what you say !

        LMFAO !!!! You love me !!! You, who are saying so many evils about my Prophet, you say you love me !

        You dont even know how to lie ! reason more to let you live in you shit !

    1. No verses in the Quran are contradictory ! A verse could have come and abrogate another one because of evolving matters at the time of revelation ! Like alcohol was permissible and then afterwards it was declared haraam, not permissible.

      The Quran is a Living Book, up till now it is still up to date and scientists can tell you better about this. Read it before you make any negative comments and you will see its wisdom !

      Shalom !

      1. Dear Likisormala.

        Shalom.

        Do you have a daughter?

        Would you like to give her up for marriage at the age of six?

        If the answer is no. Why do you trust Muhammad?

      2. For the down post, you playing with words ! You skip subjects, that’s the way of the weak !

        And to your answer, YES ! I am ready to give my daughter to MY Prophet if he was here !

        But not you ! You wont be able ! Your priests prefer little boys !

      3. Dear Likisormala.

        Shalom, and thanks for all kinds of comments.

        You wrote:

        And to your answer, YES ! I am ready to give my daughter to MY Prophet if he was here !

        My reply:

        As a mother, you will be guilty of rape, if you give up a child to have sex with Muhammad.

        In regards to the Pope and Catholic priests: They are not Christians, and followers of the teachings of Jesus.

      4. Horrendous ? Your poor little minds cannot accept some truths ? Oh come on ! Nothing more to defend ?

        Catholic priests, Cristian priests ? Playing with words again !

        תזמן ללכת שינה! פתח את העיניים שלך ויכול אללה לכוון אותך!

        לְהִתְרָאוֹת

      5. Likisormala

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        Horrendous ? Your poor little minds cannot accept some truths ? Oh come on ! Nothing more to defend ?

        My reply:

        You must admit that having sex with a six year old girl, amounts to rape? How can you defend Muhammad doing this?

        You have to agree

        In regards to Catholic priests, Christian priests, I fully understand that it is difficult for a Muslim to know the difference.

      6. If that is the truth, that you would do something so bad to your daughter, then I feel sorry for you.

        2 Timothy 3
        1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

        2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

        3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

        4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

        5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

        6For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

        7Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

      7. Ivar you so stupid agaig i say read the life of muhammed ( S.A.W ) before making such silly accusations….
        He did not sleep with the 8 year old .she only lived with him after she was at a mature age…

        You are so digusting… your mind is filty…

        It shows your’ll did not read about muhammed or our quraan …your’ll just making stupid accusations.

        Your’ll are ridiculous

      8. Dear Huzaifah.

        Shalom.

        Did Muhammad sleep with his wife, when she was 8 year of age.

        The whole purpose of marriage is to become one flesh. Married people is supposed tp sleep in the same bed. Muhammad had 11 wife’s.

        I feel is is wrong to marry a minor child, either Muhammad had sex with her or not. It is also wrong to have 11 wife’s.

        What do you feel?

      9. he did not sleep with a 8 year old… again read his life story… she lived wuith her dad… only when she was mature enough then did she live with him……

        PLEASE READ HIS LIFE STORY THEN YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND WHY HE MARRIED MANY>>> ITS POINTLESS ME DEBATING WITH SOMEONE WHO HASNT READ HIS LIFE STORY>>>>

        HAVing sex with a minor is wrong… AND thus he didnt sleep with a minor…
        His marriage to her was a command from Allah.

        Its your priest now that you christians listen to that … feel it fine to interfere with boys and little girls.
        Your’ll should be the last to talk about sleeping with minors.

      10. Dear Huzaifah

        Shalom.

        Let me explain. I am not a Catholic, and is not responsible for that Catholic priests are doing. I also agree with you that having sex with a minor is wrong.

        In regards to Muhammad, why is there a need to have 11 wife’s?

        Would you like to be a part of such a family, sharing intimacy with a man who have sex with a dozen other women?

        Since I have not read any biography on Muhammad, please explain to me.

  35. As a proud Englishman I am ashamed at some of the comments made against people of different nationalities, cultures and faiths who contribute so much to our society and now people are attacking the Quran.

    Have you even read a verse yourself? Please don’t mock what you don’t know or understand. The Quran was revealed 1400 years ago. Although the Quran is a religious book with a total of about 6600 plus verses dealing with many aspects of a person’s life, about 1000 of those verses are of scientific nature, none contradicting established scientific facts.

    Besides providing guidelines in personal, social, moral and spiritual spheres of humanity, the Quran touches upon diverse scientific topics like astronomy, geology, embryology, genetics, biology, archeology etc. Some of these prove the Quran’s Divine origin. The Big Bang. Expanding Universe. The Existence of Sun’s Orbit. Conquest of Space by Human.

    The Quran, 1400 years ago, clearly predicted human’s advancement and the possibility of space flight. The Protective Atmosphere. Existence in Pairs in all creation describes the phenomenon in the most lucid manner. The concept of Gender Determination as being described by geneticists, is one of the outstanding informations revealed to us in the Quran.

    By realizing these Truths about the Quran and the religion of Islam many modern scientists are turning towards it. Dr. Keith Moore, Professor of Embryology, Department of Anatomy, Univ. of Toronto, after analyzing the verses of the Quran for three years comments: “It has been a pleasure for me to help clarify statements in the Quran about Human Development.

    It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God or Allah because almost all of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later” Dr. Maurice Bucaille, French Physician, after studying Quran and comparing it with modern science and the Bible, addressed the French Academy of Medicine in 1976 proclaimed: “Our knowledge of these disciplines is such, that it is impossible to explain how a text produced at the time of the Quran could have contained ideas that have only been discovered in modern times”.

    Dr. Joe Leigh Simpson, Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, and the President of the American Fertility Society:”..

    These Hadiths (sayings of Muhammad) could not have been obtained on the basis of the scientific knowledge that was available at the time of the writer (7th century).It follows that not only is there no conflict between genetics and religion (Islam) but in fact Islam may guide science by adding revelation to some of the traditional scientific approaches…

    There exist statements in the Quran shown centuries later to be valid which support knowledge in the Quran having been derived from God”.

    These men of knowledge and many more, in their unbiased studies of the Quran, all proclaimed its truthfulness. Guidance to humanity proclaimed in the Quran is complete and applicable to all societies and all times. Whether we are living in the Stone Age or the Space Age, riding in horse pulled carriages or flying in Space Shuttles, we haven’t changed a bit.

    We still possess physical and emotional desires, we live in societies, interact with one another, establish social, political and economic systems; thus the relevant need for guidance by our Creator in all these spheres of our life. Islam is the only religion which is totally compatible with scientific facts and provides complete, explicit and clear guidance in all spheres of life.

    Islam is not restricted to people of the east or Arabs, it is a universal religion revealed for all of mankind, followed by around 2 billion people, black and white. Don’t blindly follow the whims and influences of the environment around us. We have a superb mind to seek and live the truth..

    1. Don’t Mock,

      You say have you ever read a quarn? Well, have you ever read a bible? Did you know that Christ died for our sins, so we could have everlasting life through him? John 3:16

      I speak the truth. The muslim religion is a lie from satan. Christ warned us beforehand.

      2 Peter 2:1
      But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.

      1. Hi sister Gloria:

        Pls apologize me if I will share answer (though I am not the one who is involved)about your question to Dont mock, about have we read the bible?Pls be informed that we cannot be a Muslim unless we believe on bible, Psalm and Torah (as stated in the 6 articles of faith).The Qur-an is a confirmation of these books as Holy books from God.However, our believe limits us to the original manuscripts.This has been our question where is the old bible?Who ammended it?What are their authorities?Do they have order to do it frm God.What are their intentions in doing it?Sorry for this my friend but this is what we felt.It is nice to be frank.
        The Qur-an is being memorized by many aspiring Muslims in the world, word for word, from A to Z.

        If we could only open our heart, our mind and learn to eliminate biases and prejudice, (My prayer is May Allah (Al-The, Lah-God) guide us all to the right path…we can logically find that the Holy Qur-an tells us the truth (remember we are converts and we hated Islam and Muslims before due to our misunderstanding and prejudices)..All the prophets mentioned in those books (bible and torah and Psalms) are respected and followed by any aspiring Muslim.

        Have you not wondered why there are a lot of versions about bible?Where is nal one because we believe on it.

        Pls get rid of hatred, biases and prejudice..Open your heart.We respect you and care for you hence, we share the truth to you. We must be objective not subjective in dealing with things.

        God bless and guide us.God willing.

      2. Dear Aldrin.

        Shalom, and thanks for debating with my sister Gloria.

        You wrote:

        Have you not wondered why there are a lot of versions about bible?Where is nal one because we believe on it.

        My reply.

        This is a great misunderstanding. Can everyone on Earth read the same Bible?

        Of course not. When the Bible had to be translated from the original language used by Jews, there were certain challenges that had to be solved. English and Hebrew does not even have common scrips, and words and cultural phrases have different meaning.

        Still 98 per cent of all Bible translation, has the exact similar texts. That is amazing, since the Bible is a book more than 3.000 years old. The Koran is a much younger book.

        How do you know that the Koran in Urdu and in Norwegian, gives the exact same meaning word by word, line my line?

      3. Hi Gloria Im very interested in your posting. I never get angry and argue.

        As you claiming the Jesus Christ is god. Ok

        1. I saw many of his photos praying to some one. does he pray himself or father or one of his spirit and father?

        2. If jesus christ died for our sins. Yo im happy to do anything in this world. raping, murdering and snacting others property 🙂

        But I don’t do like that because Im Muslim and Muhammad is strongly against all these acts 😦

        3. Where in the bible jesus christ says, that Im the god and pray me?

        4. Why jesus christ and his father did not stop the Muhammed (pbh)to reveal the quran or rather the father sent Muhammed to re-reavel the bible?

      4. TheGlitterStars,

        I apologize for not seeing your questions until now. But here are the answers:

        1. What photos have you seen? Man made photos? Please show me the photos you speak of so I can reply. Thanks.

        2. Christ did die for our sins. The bible says: “Luke:16:15: And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.” Christ does know our true hearts, but if you are “happy” to do the vile things you speak of, then I feel sorry for you.

        3. Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, [a] Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

        Isaiah 43:10-11 “You are my witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me. I, even I, am the LORD, and apart from me there is no savior.

        Revelation 1:17-18 7When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.

        There are other verses which repeat that Christ is God.

        4. You ask why Jesus Christ did not stop Muhammed? I do not have an answer for that. Maybe one day, you can ask Jesus that question. But Christ did warn us of false teachers to come: 2 Peter. 2:1-3: “But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.”

        If you have any more questions, I’d be happy to answer them.

        God Bless.

    2. Dear proud Englishman.

      Shalom, and welcome with a very long comment.

      As an Englishmen, you should not be proud of the Koran. The Koran is a foreign book to people in United Kingdom, and have done you nothing good.

      In fact, you should be proud of the Bible. The value system and the legal system in the UK is based on Judeo-Christian values.

      Is it the sharia law in the Koran you are so proud of?

      is so, you should chose carefully which of the two prominent Islamic nations that is the ideal state for the British people. Would you prefer the Islamic Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, or is the Islamic Republic of Iran a better option?

      If it is non of them. Where have these Koran-obeying nations gone wrong?

      Where has all the Mullas’s misunderstood the message?

      1. Dont mock wrote so much… and you write nothing to defend your bible… what did it teach you… did it predict anything

      2. Huzaifah, my dear friend.

        Shalom.

        Did the Bible predict anything?

        The Bible said almost 3.000 years ago, that God of Israel would bring His chosen people back from all the nations where He scattered them, and bring them back to the land of Israel.

        Is not that fantastic?

        In 1948, this Biblical prophecy came true. The Jews are home, back in Zion. Soon another prophecy shall be fulfilled. They shall face the Messiah, King of Kings. He will return to Jerusalem. The Bible says: Than all of Israel shall be saved.

        I hope a lot of Muslim will come to faith in Him before the final Judgment of sinful and wicked men shall take place.

      3. only that one thing it predicted…the quraan teaches so much…

        No brother ivar no muslim here will change to christianity.. because you didnt prove to us that christianity is the true religion… 3/4 of our questions you didnt answer .. you kept saying the same things over and over.

      4. Dear Huzaifah

        You wrote:

        No brother ivar no muslim here will change to christianity.

        My reply:

        I do not want anyone to change to “Christianity”. That is a religion. I want everyone to feel the love of Jesus. I am talking about a personal relationship with the living God.

        A saved Muslim might never get a chance attend a fellowship with others who believe in Jesus. The Islamic World is so hostile to believers. In Saudi and Iran you might be killed if you are found with a Bible. What I am telling Muslims, is the needs to repent from your sins. Ask Jesus for forgiveness. It was because of my sins and your sins, that Jesus was crucified.

        You can pray right now, at your PC-table. Just say:

        – Lord Jesus, I accept you as my savior. Please forgive me my sins. Come into my heart. Amen.

      5. may be you havnt seen but there has been war waged on innocent muslims …for nothing.

        so the muslims would be hostile….

        if you read the quraan and understood it… or asked a muslim to translae it to you…then you wouldnt assume the quraan teaches voilence. but u prefer to read certain stanzas… and think what you want.

        I will pray…o allah help this lost soul…for he is blinded.

    3. To bro Ivar,(and Muslim and Christian friends here):

      You are most welcome and thanks too.Peace be unto you (Salam)!

      Pls be informed that the Holy Qur-an is written in arabic only and if there are translations being done, they must go back and use the arabic as language.This is to avoid any ammendments in Qur-an. Consequently, if there is even one (1) letter being modified in the Qur-an, it is no longer the Qur-an since in that sense, it was corrupted. Words of God must not be changed since it is perfect.Otherwise, we are inserting our personal interests and allowing things which are disallowed by Him.(There are words in Qur-an that cannot be translated to other languages)..Hope this serves you sir..

      But, Don’t you think that it is a GOOD CHALLENGE FOR ALL TO BUILD BROTHERHOOD,PEACE AND HARMONY AND TRUTH IN THIS WORLD?WHY KEEP HATRED SIMPLY due to the irresponsible acts of some (let us condemn them, be it in Islam, Christianity, etc). Islam never teaches evil things as I believe Christianity and others too..am I right?

      Please read the quotes from Qur-an below: (To my brother Muslims, please do not argue, reflect with these:

      Quotes From Holy Quran

      He is the One GOD; the Creator, the Initiator, the Designer. To Him belong the most beautiful names. Glorifying Him is everything in the heavens and the earth. He is the Almighty, Most Wise. [59:24]

      Those who believed and led a righteous life are the best creatures. [98:7]

      Their reward at their Lord is the gardens of Eden with flowing streams, wherein they abide forever. GOD is pleased with them, and they are pleased with Him. Such is the reward for those who reverence their Lord. [98:8]

      O children of Adam, we have provided you with garments to cover your bodies, as well as for luxury. But the best garment is the garment of righteousness. These are some of GOD’s signs, that they may take heed. [7:26]

      Your Lord has commanded that you worship none but Him, and be kind to parents. If either or both of them reach old age with you, do not rebuke them, but speak to them in terms of honor and kindness. Treat them with humility, and say, ‘My Lord! Have mercy on them, for they did care for me when I was little’. [17:23-4].

      Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress limits. God does not love transgressors. [2:190].

      If they seek peace, then seek you peace. And trust in God for He is the One that heareth and knoweth all things. [8:61]

      O mankind! We created you from a single soul, male and female, and made you into nations and tribes, so that you may come to know one another. Truly, the most honored of you in Gods sight is the greatest of you in piety. God is All-Knowing, All-Aware. [49:13]

      “There shall be no compulsion in religion: the right way is now distinct from the wrong way. Anyone who denounces the devil and believes in GOD has grasped the strongest bond; one that never breaks. GOD is Hearer, Omniscient.”. [2:256]

      Hold to forgiveness, command what is right; but turn away from the ignorant.” [7:199]

      “Have patience with what they say, and leaves them with noble (dignity).” [73:10]

      “And the servants of Allah . . . are those who walked on the earth in humility, and when the ignorant address them, they say ‘Peace'” [25:63]

      “Allah is with those who restrain themselves.” [16: 128]

      “And if you punished, let your punishment be proportionate to the wrong that has been done to you; but if you show patience, that is indeed the best course. [16:126]

      “The recompense for an injury is an injury equal thereto: but if a person forgets and makes reconciliation, his reward is due from Allah.” [62:40]

      Whoever kills another one without justifiable cause, surely he is killing all of humanity. And whoever saves the life of another one, surely he saves the lives of all of humanity. [Sura Al Ma’aidah: Ayah 32]

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      1. The Quran is evil. It has the same problem as the old testament of the bible. No Jesus. Without Jesus to explain what he meant by the verses the Muslims stole from Judaism they turn into stoning in the streets and Sharia law. The Black horse of revelations. Black like a judge. Note that the rider of the black horse offers wheat, barley, oil and wine. All symbolic of religious doctrine. The pale horse, death and hell follows.

      2. Dear Ed.

        Shalom.

        It is very unfortunate, that you deny that Jesus is the author of the Old Testament. He Has ALWAYS been.

        Please read the Bible, and learn from your past mistakes. I will not remind you again.

        1 Corinthians 10: 1-5.

        For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. They all ate the same spiritual food and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.

        (end of scripture).

        Now, you please tell me, who is this Christ who followed the Jews out of Egypt?

      3. Dear Aldrin.

        Shalom, and thanks for a long reply. Try to make the next shorter. Take a point at a time, and rather make many comments.

        You wrote:

        There are words in Qur-an that cannot be translated to other languages..Hope this serves you sir..

        My reply:

        Well, if this is true, than it will be impossible for you to explain the teachings of Muhammad in English. Islam should be contained to the religion of Arabs only.

  36. Appeal to all Muslim brothers and sisters ! Please stop responding to this thread ! We losing time with people who dont want to open their eyes and who think that they are on the right path ! Let them be as we wont be able to guide people who even Allah dont want them to be guided !

    It is mentioned in the Quran that >They are not blind but they are worst than the blinds, they are not deaf but they are worst than the deafs !<

    So all Muslim breathen lets stop, lets say Salaam and leave the blind and deaf to their own little world !

    Salaam am off !

    1. Another thing Muslims stole from the bible. Dust of your feet and have nothing to do with the wicked ones. Funny as hell. So let me get this straight. God spent all that time making himself known by the prophets. 1000’s of years from the time he spent with Moses until He came in the flesh as Jesus the Messiah. All that then he picks a prophet from among the Arabs to correct all his mistakes, re-write his word and dedicate it to a different God headquartered in Saudia Arabia? Ha, nothing shady going on there…lmao.

      1. If jesus was god , why would he allow muhammed to write another book ( which your’ll state is lies). Wouldnt he have stopped it?? LMAO

      2. Dear Huzaifah

        Shalom, and thanks for making this site an interesting site with debate on faith.

        You asked:

        If jesus was god , why would he allow muhammed to write another book ( which your’ll state is lies). Wouldnt he have stopped it??

        My reply:

        This is a very good question, indeed. I feel you have to ask Jesus this question. He is alive, and He will surely answer all Muslims who pray to Him. He died for the sins of every Muslim, and Has promised to not reject anyone who call up on Him, using His name.

      3. Huzaifah,

        Your comment: If jesus was god , why would he allow muhammed to write another book ( which your’ll state is lies). Wouldnt he have stopped it?? LMAO

        My Comment: There is no question of “if.” Jesus is God Please read John 10:30

        And as to the other part of your question: why would God allow Muhammed to write another book?

        The book Muhammed wrote is no comparison to the Words of God (The Holy Bible.) As to the why of it? Jesus did warn us about false teachers in advance.

        1 John 4:1
        Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

        God Bless.

      4. 1 John 4:1
        Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

        jesus didnt say that john did…its funny how you only remember the statement abt false prophets…. Jesus himself in the old testament said that there would be another prophet. Which u deny.

      5. Huzaifah

        Shalom.

        Thanks for reading the Bible. It is a wonderful book.

        The Old testament is the Hebrew Bible, that Jesus taught from when he preached. He explained to the Jews what the scriptures said about Him self, and what God the Father desired the Jews to do for Him.

        There are many prophets in the Old Testament. Both true, and false. You have to read this book. Its existing stuff.

        If you are living in a Muslim country were Bibles are not available, please read the bible online. Here is a good site.

        http://www.biblegateway.com/

        Both John and Jesus warned about false prophets, coming after Jesus had departed.

        Le me show you one of the verses, were Jesus gave us such a warning.

        Matthew 24:24
        For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible.

  37. Likisormala,

    You do not have to leave. We love spreading the Word of Christ.

    Romans 8:38-39
    For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    1. No jason we say why fight with people who are blind to the truth….

      Loopholes look at your different bibles which is true… LOl only jesus knows…

      Your’ll have so many.

      1. Huzaifah,

        If you read the bible, and repent asking God for forgiveness, you will see the truth.

        John 10:30 I and the father are one.

        John 14:26
        But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

      2. Huzaifah.

        You asked:

        You didnt answer me which bible is true

        My reply:

        The Bible has been translated into 200 languages. Which of them do you prefer? I can give you one in Urdu, and I can give you one in English?

        I have a New International version. (NIV).

        You can read this Bible online on this site.

        http://www.biblegateway.com/

        As I already have explained: 98 per cent of the text in different Bible translations are the same. I prefer the NIV version, because the English used is easy to understand.

      3. Dear Huzaifah

        Shalom.

        Your wrote:

        lol..brother ivar you sound silly…
        is the old testament tru,or the new testament,or the book of banabus…

        My reply:

        You are right. We can all sound silly many times during a day. I guess her Muslims and Christians are equally sinners.

        Jesus quoted from the Old Testament. He confirmed the correctness of the Jewish scriptures. The New Testament is the confirmation about Jesus using the Old Testament to explain who God the Father is to the Jews.

        The gospel of Barnabas is a false gospel. It was written down more than 150 years after Jesus had left back to the throne of His Father in Heaven.

      4. the book of barnabas is known to be false… because it was the book that was true… and that has about another propther of God Muhammed…. Read it … you will see… that a book that was written 150 years after jesus left… had the coming of muhammed.

      5. Brother Ivar… the link you have posted about the gospel of barnabas….

        Can you give reference to where in the book it states that the quraan is a false book and muhammed is not a messiah…

        Bcoz i just see you stating a man Al- Farroq said its not in the gospel.

        You have given ref to the claim jesus is not a son of god.

      6. Dear Huzaifah

        Shalom.

        You asked:

        Can you give reference to where in the book it states that the quraan is a false book and muhammed is not a messiah…

        My reply:

        The book of Barnabas is a false book. It is not found in the Bible, and will never be.

        Did you read the article?

  38. Alas!!!

    someone confessing he is confused about islam teachings and the only thing he stuck to it is fear cos islam is politics in saudi and if you discuss it you”ll be killed…yet this is the religion of force some people claim to find faith in…..there’s a lot of loopholes and it’s been revealed, why do people just want to be destroyed??? Believe in Christ and his ways and you shall be saved.
    link

  39. Don’t know why a christian pastor should care about what the muslims are doing. Jesus said , you were hungry I gave you bread. So, If nobody is hungry for the words of Jesus there is more time for golf. It isn’t like bible prophesy indicates Christ would triumph by the works of mans hands, the whole world is expected to become wicked and reject Christ before his return.

    1. Dear Ed.

      Shalom, and good to see you. We have just crossed 15.000 guest today. More than 12.000 Muslims, who are wants to debate on who Jesus is. Please help me, and handled lost souls with wisdom and care.

      1. Ok Ivar,

        Jesus is hard to explain and understand. The sum of the whole bible is merely a candle in the darkness. Jesus was the son of God, made flesh to die for the sins of mankind that we might be saved. He was given power a little less than that of the Angels. He died and was resurrected and has inherited all things from God the father. He dwells in all of us if anyone should listen and hear his voice. He stands at the door and knocks, if any man should open the door he will talk with you. To open the door you must believe, and study his word so that you understand.

      2. Dear Ed.

        Shalom, and thanks for joining.

        I do not agree that Jesus is hard to explain, neither is He hard to understand. But I do agree that all people must read the Bible, to see who He really was, Is and forever will be.

  40. The burning of the Quran by a pastor with a congregation of merely 12people max 50 can do no harm to Allah and his messenger (saws). You see it is the promise of Allah almighty to protect the reminder (Quran) and surely He will protect it. What people fail to understand is that they can burn the physical book which is printed in many Islamic states mainly Saudi , but it only takes one hafiz (protector of the Quran who has memorized the whole Quran by heart) to sit Down and recite from memory, and the scribes can start over. They cannot burn the hearts of such people chosen by Allah, this in itself is a miracle only if you were to ponder.

    I am wondering if this Gloria and Iver who are extremely well versed in the bible and Quran can explain what is the first rule of any person especially a Muslim when they want to recite the Quran? Then what is the second rule? And then followed by the third? They (Gloria and iver) claim it was revealed by the devil (cursed be him) so it’s very important to put such allegations to the test. I want to use their answers as a touch stone and decide wether what they say is true or false. Please do answer me if u speak the truth, and then we can take it from there.

    Also Gloria and iver please answer one question of mine. How is jesus the “SON” of God almighty? It baffles me! I need an explanation, I understand nowadays you can have a baby (for humans/mamals/animals) without physically being touched by a male (but better yet still requiring the sperm to conceive). How did God have this “son”? Did he also have a wife? Did God perform the actions of the lowly animals of having intercourse? Or better did he beget a son? If he begotten a son, was it a physical procedure of how a mother goes through childbirth? If so then God must require a vigina or any other passage for the baby to pass! Remember the word “BEGOTTEN” was on your holy bible king James version which you have now taken off the shelves!

    So Gloria and ivor the two great scholars of faith please don’t be shy in answering the questions above, I like to keep an open mind.

    My final question and by the way I’m not taking the pi** I’m very serious. How did God create Adam? I beleive he did not have a mother or father? Unless otherwise stated in the holy bible! So my question is, does Adam not have the right to be worshipped over Jesus as he was created without a mother or father?

    Oh yes and on the day of reckoning , why will God (Jesus) act as a ambassador for the guilty in front of God who is on the throne waiting to judge? Still amuses me! Anyone ever heard of the holy spirit dying? No, didn’t think so, but still they are “one person” if you catch my drift (trinity).

    “they (Jesus and Mary a.s.) eat food like how u do” is that not enough for the people of the book to reflect upon?

    Peace to those who follow guidance

    1. Dear Dizzy.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      Your question:

      Also Gloria and Ivar please answer one question of mine. How is jesus the “SON” of God almighty? It baffles me! I need an explanation.

      My reply:

      God the Almighty is a tribune God. Three in One. They are One, always in agreement. They are eternal. It does not matter to Father, Son and Spirit what man feels or think about this. If you accept The Son, God will come with His spirit and convince you that you just have read the truth. Amen.

    1. Mohammed believed a lie told from the devil.

      2 Peter 2:1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.

      1. Gloria, i’m in shock from your comments!you are suffering from islamophobia definately you judging a decente prophet by your ignorance to his beloving personnality, does your bible encourage you to curse the last prophet to man kind? don’t react and judge the book from its cover wait till you read all the pages, you are been manupilated into this hatering comments.
        we apreciaTE IF YOU KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT PLEASE IF YOU DON’T HAVE NICE constructive knoledgable notes,TO SAY! YOU AND YOURE FELLOW hYPOCRATES ISLAMO PHOBIC MATES.DON’T REPLY TO MY MESAGE AS ITS DIRECTED TO ALL HATERS.Thanx.

      2. Nino,

        My comments aren’t meant to shock anyone. I’ve state the truth, which is God’s word.

        Jesus warned us ahead of time of false prophets, so we wouldn’t lose our salvation. By stating Mohammed was a false teacher, I state the truth.

        I do not bring judgment because only God can do that.

        Romans 14:10-12
        Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.

  41. lolololol hilarious.

    in the name of the father the son and the holy spirit…. a bunch of confused people.

    lolololol

    its very easy to copy and paste

    1. It is easy to copy and paste you’re right.

      But I copy and pase THE HOLY WORD OF GOD. You copy and paste lies.

      John 16:13
      When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.

  42. I. Jesus (A.S.) In Islam

    Muslims do believe that Isa (A.S.) was sent down as a Prophet of Allah (God), but he (Jesus) is not God or Lord, nor the son of God. Muslims do not believe that Isa (A.S.), also known as Jesus by Christians and others, is dead or was ever crucified. We believe that he was raised to heaven and is there, and will descend at the appointed time, end all wars, and bring peace to the world.

    (edited).

    Dear Feroz.

    As the editor I use my right to edit messages that I feel are to long. Please write short and to the point.

    1. That is a very long post, and honestly too long for me to read write now.

      Your Comment: Muslims do believe that Isa (A.S.) was sent down as a Prophet of Allah (God), but he (Jesus) is not God or Lord, nor the son of God. Muslims do not believe that Isa (A.S.), also known as Jesus by Christians and others, is dead or was ever crucified.

      My Comment:
      1 Thessalonians 4:14
      For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep.

      1. Feroz,

        This is my ultimate point.

        John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”

      2. Son of God

        It is claimed that jesus was the only son of the trinity bcoz he was the only son of god, but there are others also mentioned in the bible.

        1.Thus says the lord that ,Israel is my son even my first born( exodus 4: 22)

        2.Blessed are the peacemakers : for they shall be called the CHILDREN OF GOD ( John 5:9)

        3.But as many as received him, to them gave he the power to become the SONS OF GOD ( John 1 :12)

        4. Seth which was the son of adam which was the SON OF GOD. ( Isaiah 54 :2)

        How many sons did god have? Where they all god?

      3. Dear Huzaifah.

        Shalom.

        Thanks for reading the Bible. Its is a wonderful book.

        You asked:

        How many sons did God have. Where they all God?

        My reply:

        It is true that God has many sons. I am one of them. But Jesus is the only begotten Son. Not a created being. He is the co-creator.

        Jesus was completely human, and shared our humanity. He was tempted but never sinned, and took our capital punishment on the cross Because He was a complete Human, Jesus is also called the Son of man in the Bible.

        Jesus is also divine. He came from our Father in Heaven, and returned to the Father. Jesus rose from the dead after three days. He is alive. He is God the Son.

        If you accept this as the truth, you will also become a Child of God.

      4. Ok if jesus came from the father in heaven ( does this not mean that jesus is not god, if there is another being in heaven.)

        If jesus is now god what happened to the being in heaven( you called father) which you said i quote :
        He came from our Father in Heaven, and returned to the Father.

        I was always curious why is it your paryer from jesus says: Our father who art in heaven( WHY NOT MY FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN)
        Hallowed be thy name.(WHY NOT HALLOWED BE MY NAME)

      5. Huzaifah,

        Your comment: I was always curious why is it your paryer from jesus says: Our father who art in heaven( WHY NOT MY FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN)
        Hallowed be thy name.(WHY NOT HALLOWED BE MY NAME)

        My Comment: That particular prayer is said by the Catholics. I think Ivar has stated numerous times that he is not catholic, that he believes in Jesus Christ. And so do I.

        Your Comment: Ok if jesus came from the father in heaven ( does this not mean that jesus is not god, if there is another being in heaven.) If jesus is now god what happened to the being in heaven( you called father) which you said i quote : He came from our Father in Heaven, and returned to the Father.

        My Comment: I believe also that it was said by Ivar and by myself, that Jesus Christ and God are one. There are numerous bible verses supporting this. Please read John 10:30

        Also God is Almighty the Alpha and Omega (the beginning and end. You say: “Ok if jesus came from the father in heaven ( does this not mean that jesus is not god”

        He is God which is why anything is possible with him.

      6. OK SO SISTER GLORIA HE CAME FROM HIMSELF ( AS HE IS FATHER ) AND HE RETURNED TO HIMSELF.

        QUOTE : He came from our Father in Heaven, and returned to the Father.

        AH OK

      7. Dear Huzaifah.

        Shalom.

        There is no need to ask the same questions again and again, and we give the same answer. If you are not willing to accept the truth, and least give us a brake.

        This is the last time I answer the same question. Next time you will be spam.

        Both God the Father and God the Son are eternal. No beginning and no end. If you have a problem with that, there is nothing more to say.

        The Bible says we have a Father in Heaven, the Koran says we have not. The Bible says Jesus is God the Son, the Koran says he is not. Now it up to you. You are free to join billion people who believe the Bible tells he truth about Jesus.

  43. this is what muslims believe about prophet ISA(peace be upon him) therefore why the hatred and lies about our beloved prophet muhammad s.a.w?

    i call it IGNORANCE… you call it CHRISTIANITY!

    1. Dear KK.

      Shalom, and thanks for rebuking us. I agree with you. Lets treat each other with respect, and use kind words. We can quote the Bible and the Koran. Let the words in these two books speak for them selves.

      In regards to the life of Muhammad and Jesus, they lived different life. Jewish Jesus was not married. Muhammad had a dozen wife’s and one of them was a child. That do not count in favor of the Arab.

  44. Muhammad (May Allah’s Abundant Peace and Blessings Be Upon Him, And His Family, And His Companions) and what he REALLY taught:

    Indeed All Praise is Due To Allah, The Lord of Allah that Exists, May His Peace And Blessings Be Upon His Slave and Messenger Muhammad. I Testify That None Has The Right To Be Worshipped Except Allah, And I Testify That Muhammad Is His Slave and Final Messenger.

    (edited).

    Dear Umm Muhammad.

    Shalom. I have shortened a very long message, Please write short messages, and focus on the topic of this debate.

    Is it right to burn Koran or Bibles?

    1. you answered the whole debate in your last ligne Ivar: Koran The one only wholy? OR the Bibles? means the various copies of man’s written renewed faked words!! my high respect to that they should be respeced and tampered by dirty poisoned sadists and childs abbusers who claims to be be saints!!respect to the prophet Issa el messih the son of the virgin pure meriam,as all allah creations peace upon their souls, and may allah forgive you all for the fake lies you claim that he’s the son of god, without any knowledge! la ilaha ila allah muhammad rassoul allah.

      1. Dear Nino.

        Shalom.

        Thanks for all kind of comments.

        I feel this debate is approaching its closure. People seems to have less interesting points to make, and a hurdle of insults will not take us anywhere.

        It has been an interesting debate, were the differences between Muhammad and Jesus have been made obvious. People are free to chose whom of them they want to Obey.

        Please chose wisely.

  45. Everyone please remember that Islam has one message to the whole world: ‘LOVE FOR ALL, HATRED FOR NONE’. If all of us can adhere to this teaching, the world would be a much better place for everyone, Inshallah

    1. Dear KK.

      Shalom.

      You must be aware that the Koran has verses that demand Jihad, that Muslims must cripple and kill those who do not obey Muhammad.

      What do you think about such verses?

      1. Ivar,

        You take these verses out of context. These verses were revealed as a result of muslims being killed and persecuted. Even when they left Mecca, they continued to be perseucted. Allah allowed self-defence in such situations. Also, the verses you refer to, was when only 313 muslims (men, women and children) were to fight in self-defence against 1000 Meccan army. They fought for their lives, for their survival…hardly the picture that you are portraying.

  46. can any Christian tell me events that happened in there live’s 20 years ago day to day events with out any written documents to hand without making errors. not easy so how do u think the saints that wrote the gospels 60 to 100 years after jesus left this world who were not even there. how accurate can this book be. also people say muslim women r made to cover by wearing hijab you do not understand st pauls gospel tells Christian women to cover from head to there ankles you only see this in nuns. most of you are part time Christian’s. even in the bible old testement there were plenty of time killing others are mentioned
    but no u you change your book u have so many diffrent bible all amended and written by man. how many of you have read the old testement the one that has not had verse’s taken out to suit man and there greed.

    1. Dear Blue.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      You raises an important question. Is the New Testament of the Bible reliable?

      My answer is yes. The New Testament is the story of Jesus quoting from the scriptures that was already available. Jesus taught from the Torah from He got up in the morning, till he went to bed in the evening.

      Remember there was no New Testament when Jesus walked on Earth.

      How do we now Jesus taught correctly?

      Well, to answer such a question, we have to study the Hebrew scriptures.

    2. Blue,

      I am a beliver of Jesus Christ. Twenty years ago, I was 14 years of age, and still believed in Jesus Christ.

      The bible was written in direction of the Holy Sprit. God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are one.

    3. Dear Blue.

      Shalom.

      You wrote:

      even in the bible old testement there were plenty of time killing others are mentioned.

      My reply:

      The Old Testament of the Bible is the story of mankind, that needs to be saved. Its a preparation for the coming of the Messiah. If there was no fault with men, there was no reason for Jesus to come to Earth, and be crucified for our sins.

    1. Dear SS.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      I have written in the article, that no Christian should burn the Koran. It is a wicked thing to do. I want to encourage all to read the Koran. The book that is the foundation of Islam has more than 140 verses that promotes Jihad. Muhammad wanted his followers to cripple and kill people who did not submit to His teachings.

  47. hi gloria i’d just like to say that you call yourself a christian and that you follow in jesus teachings but from the converstaions that i have seen TUT! TUT!
    you have no respect for anyone or anyones religion in fact your almost a hypocrite! you follow in his teachings when in fact you are dishonouring him at the same time! if you have nothing peaceful to say then say nothing at all! DO NOT DIRESEPECT ISLAM! you see it is people like you and many other people of many religions including islam my religion, who say that they are doing acts of God/Allah but in fact are disgracing their religion with their actions and ways of thinking shame on you Gloria!

    And id just like to say that my prophet Muhammed (SAW)
    is not a peodofile in fact he is a man worthy of praise and an inspiration to all as the only reason he would marry girls of a certain age was due to the fact that he wanted to give his name to them so that no harm would ever come to them.

    in my religion we respect all prophets and their teachings can you say that your religion also does that and if so then why dishonour my prophet!

  48. what is the use of making this a debate….let the kaafir do what they want…how much they can do?how much quran they can burn? in all muslim heart there s quraan..those who are fighting for jesus…jesus never said that im the son of god…jesus never said worship me im god…if jesus are son of god then its absolutely clear that god are human like us he multiply….bullshit dude…see in san francisco what happen the said they will burn quran and then what happen…explosion my friend..open ur eyes and see what is the truth…the quraan or the bible

    1. Dear Mouhinuddin.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      You wrote:

      if jesus are son of god then its absolutely clear that god are human like us he multiply….bullshit dude…

      My reply:

      Jesus was God that decided to walk on Earth in the form of a man.

      If God decides to do this, who are you to stop Him?

      Jesus was completely human, so He could be tempted by the devil, still did not sin. And since he shared our humanity, He could also pay for the sins of humanity.

      Jesus was also fully God. He forgave sins. Only God can forgive our sins.

  49. Islam is a Living religion who is making so many people shitting in their pants ! And as always what you cannot counter or fight is evil …

    At the end of the day YOU will lose and Islam will lead and you know this and you are afraid ! We are strong in our faith and we will always remain strong whatever you say or think, you can say whatever evil you want, you can send us to Gitmo you can do whatever come across your evil minds, Islaam, the religion of Truth, will always triumphate put this in your poor mind ! And prepare yourself for our meeting coz for sure we will meet on The Day of Judgement, then … then YOU will see what you denied !

    We are not stressed, we are not living in a state of fear, we are not obssessed with security issues in our airports or ports or anywhere ! You are ! You are afraid, you are stressed, you live in fear, and you are in deep shit ! And with that way of poor reasoning like you doing now, you will be in deeper shit !

    Viva Islam !

    1. Dear Likisormala

      You wrote:

      We are not stressed, we are not living in a state of fear, we are not obssessed with security issues in our airports or ports or anywhere.

      My reply:

      It was not followers of Jesus who blew up aircraft’s in the early 1970-ties. It was Arab Palestinian terrorists. If I am not mistaken, they all shouted ” Allah is great”.

      Be frank. That is not an act of peace. To kill your self for “allah”, might be right in the sight of a Muslim. But to cripple and kill others?

      1. Dear Likisormala

        You wrote:

        You talking of peace ? Talk about it to your Israeli counterparts !

        My comment:

        Now, we are entering a new topic. No longer this will be a debate about the Koran, and the Bible, Jesus and Muhammad.

        Anyhow. The state of Israel holds only 0,2 per cent of the land in the Middle East. The Arabs have plenty of land, and should let the Jews live in peace.

      2. How can you make that comment… Your people are killing innocent wmen ,women and children… You speak like that and you say YOU A MAN OF GOD….SHAME ON YOU

      3. Dear huzaifah

        Shalom.

        I love to debate with you, and will surely try to answer all your questions.

        But you are not very helpful. You should try to help me, to understand this verse from the Koran?

        Is it mot violent behavior, Muhammad promotes in this verse of the Koran?

        [Sura 5:33]
        «The just retribution for those who fight God (Allah) and His messenger (Muhammad), and commit horrendous crimes, is to be killed, or crucified, or to have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or to be banished from the land. This is to humiliate them in this life, then they suffer a far worse retribution in the Hereafter».

      4. Dear Huzafiah.

        Shalom.

        I have told you earlier, that a true Christian has no permission to harm any Muslim. People who harm Muslims and claim to be followers of Jesus, have never known Him. I sincerely regret all kind of violence.

        Have I made my self clear to you?

      5. Dear all readers, and specially all of you who believe in Muhammad.

        Shalom.

        I am again about to put a brake on this debate. We have a couple of dishonest Muslims visiting this site, who make a mockery out of Islam, with comments in horrible filthy language. I will not allow them to come online with fake ID’s, while I have to take a brake.

        I want to tell all of you, that Jesus loves you.

  50. Lidisormala,

    You wrote: And prepare yourself for our meeting coz for sure we will meet on The Day of Judgement, then … then YOU will see what you denied !

    My comment: The ony one that can judge is JESUS CHRIST.

    Helpfu
    Romans 14:10-12
    Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.

    1. What you dont seem to understand is that Jesus (Prophet Issa for us Muslims) is our Prophet also and we do love him also but we do not pray him. He is one of our prophets among more than 140,000 who came and ended with Muhammad (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him)the last Prophet. Muhammad (PBUH) came to confirm the religion of Jesus. Your early priests lead you astray when they made you believe that Jesus was son of Allah (Wa naUzubillah min Zaalik !)Allah has no son ! Pray Allay ! Do not pray a human like you ! By the way, did you know that Jesus (son of Mary) was a Muslim ?

      Islam is the only religion.
      Allah is the only Ilaah.
      Muhammad is the last Messenger of Allah !
      I bear witness that I believe in Allah and that Muhammad (SAW) is the Messenger of Allah.

      You can come with whatever verse from the Bible, that will make no effect as my faith and the faith of all Muslim is inebranlable !

      With this I end.

      1. Likisormala,

        I hope you come to understand that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are one. John 10:30

        That Jesus died for our sins, and was resurrected. John 3:16

        What you believe is in a lie, for GOD created everything.

        I hope and pray that you will see the truth, and that Jesus Christ touches your heart.

        God Bless.

      2. Dear Likisormala

        Shalom.

        You are always welcome back.

        You wrote:

        Your early priests lead you astray when they made you believe that Jesus was son of Allah

        My comment:

        The problem is, that when Jesus walked on Earth, “allah” was the moon god they worshiped in Mecca. There was no Islam, and no prophet Muhammad.

        Your prophet who brought the World the knowledge of “allah” was born 600 years after Jesus. So how could we have been lead astray?

        Jesus said He came as a servant of God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel. The Messiah never spoke about Mecca, the moon god, or an Arab prophet that would bring in a totally new book that would contradict the Bible.

  51. Guys,

    Just came across this and wish to ask, where exactly in the bible does Jesus ( PBUH) state the big plan of how he came to save us all by dying on the cross? And why did he cry on the cross ” Eli Eli Lamaa Sabakhtani?” which is asking in hebrew Why his Eli ( God in Hebrew) is forsaking him?. If this was all Gods plan from the beginning why did He bother to bring Abraham, Moses, Isaia, John the Baptist? Why not start or end with Jesus? The biggest sins during poor Jesus time was avarice and tax evasion, what of Today? so who will come to Die? Some things require sober reasoning not heated debate, life on earth is a transition, think carefully for yourself why God went to the lengths He did to make this world and us the way we are , then decide for your self. NO need to exchange harsh words online, it doesnt prove anything, Jesus Himself talks about how the blind will not see and the deaf will not hear,no different from the Quraan IN Albaqara – Deaf, Dumb and Blind – they will not be guided aright. And that parable story that my pastor tries to sell to me? I always remind him GOd has no reason to be shy – He is the Alpha and the Omega HIS message should be direct,not hidden under a stone.

    I often ask my self these questions when I read the Bible, which incidentally was compiled in 350 Ad by an appointed council of men who decided that some books should be hidden and others edited and that was the very first time it was agreed that Christ Jesus would be called the Son of God, then they made their changes. To each their own belief and Faith however your own history as christians should help you get off the Ivory tower and find out about the Crusaders who killed in the name of Christianity. Oh and lets not forget Paul the real father of Christianity and how all his teaching went against those of Jesus.

    I suspect Gloria and CO. have had the benefit of their pastors interpretation of the Quraan, not good enough if you are worth the paper your name is written on, get the facts yourself, read the whole Quraan, study it ( Like some of us do bible study) and decide for yourself. Oh and by the way, when you study Theology there is a semester where they teach about Islam and the Quraan, and I am so sad to say that it is all a bunch of lies what is taught, again think carefully and ask yourself why temptations still exists if Jesus has already died for our sins…..

    1. Iman,

      Your comment: Just came across this and wish to ask, where exactly in the bible does Jesus ( PBUH) state the big plan of how he came to save us all by dying on the cross?

      My comment: John 3: 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

      Study the bible, and seek Christ with an open heart, and you too will see the truth.

    2. Dear Imam.

      Shalom.

      You asked:

      how he came to save us all by dying on the cross? And why did he cry on the cross ” Eli Eli Lamaa Sabakhtani?” which is asking in hebrew Why his Eli ( God in Hebrew) is forsaking him?.

      My reply:

      Jesus was completely human. He carried the sins of the World on the cross. He cried out to His Father in Heaven.

      Behold, Jesus was also fully God. He is the author of life. He rose from the grave after three days, and will forever be our justification in front of God Almighty.

      Imam. Give your life to Him, and you shall not perish.

  52. ok wotever you so called christians are saying forget that and tell me how come you idots dont have same bible y there are so many different versions, how come God and christians cant protect and have one same bible,its embarrasing whereas QUR’AN has not change even a least bit since revealed.
    Muslims as whole obey Jesus pbuh more that christian by not consuming pork meat, not drinking alcohol , not gambling , not having sex before marriage list goes on and on …. MIND IT im talking abt muslims as whole not abt few black sheeps

    1. Kaldino,

      You write: ok wotever you so called christians are saying forget that and tell me how come you idots dont have same bible y there are so many different versions,

      THE HOLY WORD OF GOD contains the old and new testament. Every other “religious” book is a lie, because no other book contains the WORDS OF CHRIST.

      God Bless.

      1. you got me wrong love i means to say RSV king james etc etc few have more verses few have less verses and they dont even match and have lots of discrepancies.
        At one place its also say the one of the Prophet astagfiruAllah had sex with his own daughter, and you call it word of God LOL

        Please answer the rest of the questions in my previous question as well or you dont have answers for’em

      2. Dear Kaldino.

        Shalom.

        I would like to know more about your knowledge of the Bible.

        Can you give me good examples of where the RSV translation and the King James translation tell a different story?

    2. Dear Kaldino.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      You wrote:

      Muslims as whole obey Jesus pbuh more that christian by not consuming pork meat, not drinking alcohol , not gambling , not having sex before marriage list goes on and on.

      My reply.

      You should read the Bible, before you claim to know that Muslims follow the teachings of Jesus. Did you know that the first miracle Jesus performed, was to make water into wine to be consumed in a Jewish wedding.

      The Bible permit Christians to eat pork. In regards to Gambling, I feel the biggest casino in the Middle East are in Kuwait.

      Muhammad him self had sex with a little girl. So I guess you shout excommunicate Him from the true understanding of Islam.

  53. A last reply before I go ! The Quran did not come to contradict the Bible ! The Bible WAS a book from God also (like the Zabur, Ingeel and Thora) but it was modified / falsified thus no more authentic. The Quran came to clear this all, its the last Book and till now it has never been modified / falsified and it will never be.

    You follow the religion of Jesus ? Then you should be a Muslim because Jesus was a Muslim. And you must continue as the religion was not ended with Jesus. Is was smoothened by Muhammad who came to complete Islaam.

    Its no use trying to make a blind see ! But as a Muslim I pray to Almighty Allah to guide you and make you open your eyes and see the truth. Else i fear that Hellfire is waiting for you !

    Repent as you still have time to do so !

    1. Likisormala,

      You write: You follow the religion of Jesus ? Then you should be a Muslim because Jesus was a Muslim. And you must continue as the religion was not ended with Jesus. Is was smoothened by Muhammad who came to complete Islaam.

      My comment: Muhammed was a liar and a man…simply a man. He was not a god or a prophet, since he refused to acknowledge only Jesus Christ can save.

      Romans 5:8 But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

    2. Dearest Likisormala

      Shalom.

      You wrote:

      You follow the religion of Jesus ? Then you should be a Muslim because Jesus was a Muslim.

      My reply:

      Regardless of how hard you try, this strange message can never become the truth. Jesus who lived 600 years before there was a single Muslim on the face of the Earth, can never have been a Muslim. He was a Jew. Born by a Torah observant Jewish virgin, and raised in a Jewish family.

      1. To ivarfjeld and gloria

        As a late comer to this conversation I just wanted to say that you have failed to realise that one of the reasons that Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was sent was to confirm to the Jews that Isa (jesus) upon whom be peace was sent by Allah (as the Jews believed he was a false Prophet), that they failed to kill him (you may take issue with that) and that he would return towards the end of time (yes we believe in his second coming too!). So to say we are satanic does huge diservice to the above and does not make sense. To say the Quran is satanic makes no sense as the Quran is in agreement with a lot of judeo-christian teaching. I say judeo- christian as the Quran upholds a lot of the Commandments just as the early christian, particularly the family of Christ did.
        In its moral teaching it goes against all that satan calls for, from the oneness of God to the belief in Judgement day (something which satan would want us to forget about), I could go on. So i recommend that you read the Quran rather that copy and pasting from other sites to better understand Islam as I could do the same thing with the Bible.

        Lastly when we say that Isa on whom be peace was a muslim what we mean by it is that the definition of Muslim is one who submits to the worship of the creator Allah. Allah has created Adam and Huwa (Eve)and they submit themselves in worship to their creator and so they were Muslims, and all who follwed them in worshipping Allah are Muslims and all the Prophets and Messengers sent by Allah are Muslims including Abraham, Moses, John the baptist, Isa and their followers. The practicing Jews at the time of Isa (Jesus) were muslims up untill the point they rejected Isa (Jesus) after which they were no longer Muslims and the ones that followed Isa(Jesus) remained as Muslims as they followed the Prophet who was fortold in their scriptures.

      2. was you there that you know he was a jew you can look in books and boook and books but can you back it up books dont prove sh1t i dont care so dont be telling us he was a jew kmg

      3. then by your reckoning christians arent christians at all, their all jews like their saviour! but alas oh no wait stop the press!!! wasnt jesus p.b.u.h shunned by the jews and left to hang on a cross by the romans ?? mhmmmmm now is he jewish or what ?? because if he is i wouldnt want to be jewish otherwise i might be left hanging too.

      4. Dear Mhus.

        Shalom, and tanks for debating on this site.

        Was Jesus hanged on the cross by Jews or Romans?

        Jesus was not hanged. He was nailed to the cross. Crucified. You are correct that it was Italian officers from Rome who “killed’ Jesus. But they did not manage to get rid of Him, just like Satan had hopped. If Jesus died, than He was only a mortal man, and a great prophet.

        The good News is that Jesus if the author of life. He rose from the dead, and is alive today. In fact the resurrected Master Jesus showed Him self to 500 Jewish witnesses after He had risen. They were the first Messianic believers in God the Son.

  54. To all,

    I have been at Ivar’s site since 8 this morning. It has been an interesting debate. Now it is time for me to leave, and pick up my children.

    To Ivar: May God continue to bless you for spreading his word, the truth.

    To the rest: Christ died for our sins, so that we could have everlasting life through him, if we accept him.

    I have been in the presence of Christ, and at separate times, I have seen what awaits those who do not accept him.

    Pick up the Holy Word of God. You have nothing to lose, and everything to gain.

    May God touch all of your hearts, so you will see the truth.

    God Bless you all.

  55. Dear Gloria and everyone else who are calling my beloved Prophet a lier and are trying to prove that Muslims are terrorists. So,

    1. Our prophet is not a lier as I can prove it with the examples and even history can’t deny it.

    2. In the Bible Christ has said: “But as for those my enemies, who would not have me reign over them, bring them hither and kill them before me.” The above verse has been taken from Luke 19 verse 27. Can you please explain what is it all about if its not terrorism? And can you please prove even a single sentence from Quran where it has said that kill innocent non-muslims where ever you see them? Well you will not find anything such like that in it. As Islam is not only a religion its a way of life too.

  56. Seriously can everybody stop insulting one another.. we all believe in God.. isnt that good enough.. And for all those that are going against Islam and saying disrespectful things about Allah.. Allah means ‘One God’ in arabic.. You believe in that there is only one God and so do we… The problem with you guys is that you are creating your own rubbish up and using it to defend yourselves against the other muslims that have commented here.. The truth is that your Old Testament was the same as the Quran but you guys decided to change it to suit your benefits and needs. The Quran is a way of life.. Teaches you to respect one another regardless of Religion or Race.. Islam obviously has had certain idiots giving it a bad name but then again there are many Christians out there.. (some whom are the popes themselves aka pedofiles) that give Christianity a bad name.. You just got to cut out on the hatred.. Does your Bible say to offend or hate other humans? I dont think so.. Anyways stop hating on Muslims.. After all were all humans.. Why cant we just all live in peace instead of being pointed fingers at.. Stop accusing Muslims for every silly little thing that happens in the World.. Muslims starting getting haters when the twin towers incident happened.. But since then you Americans have killed SOOOO many innocent Muslims.. Purely for revenge and stealing oil purposes.. So enough is enough.. Just cut out the crap now.. And leave us Muslims alone.. We are not perfect and neither are you.. So lets just leave it there!

  57. Christians are very ignorant and many of them are liars. Same with jews. Islaam is the truth. Its obvious and clear to anyone with half a brain. I’m english brought up without religion but its so obvious that islaam is the only religion that tells the truth and makes sense and u wud have to be a monkey not to see that. Respect to the muslims. Don’t listen to all the bs tat these liars chat bout on the telly and don’t waste ur breath worryin bout it becos when u die u will be proven right and this lot won’t be able to chat any more rubbish. Peace

  58. Salam
    i took time to read the first few comments, but was unable to read the rest because…well…i believe the point has been missed. Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is the seal of all prophets. his coming was mentioned by prophet Isa (AS). how many versions of the bible exist today? to be a good christian, which would you have to follow? if you do choose the right one, then you will no doubt be on your way to finding truth and peace, which is what Islam stands for. the teachings of the Qur’an remain the same, unlike the Bible today. do not blaspheme because you misunderstand what you read from your holy scripture.
    Ma’assalam

  59. all you so called christians are scared about islam thats why you all go about burning there books that shows your fear and then you say its by satan and all your bogessness but remember one thing i dont understand how you hate on muslims they didnt kill your god try and remember who crusified your god it wasnt the muslims so before you burn there books you need to stop saying prophets rote your books because it is a fact people been changing the “bible” historians and what no.

  60. O yeh aisha was pubescent. The bible is full of nonsense. Hope dat clears up m8tee boiz lies up der. I’m off to get some real good virgin sex now. Lataz

  61. Just heard obamas 13 year old dorta is 5′ 9” special prize to da man dat can stik a niqaab on dat and marry it and ride it out all nite and show her all about wot she been missin. Brrraappppzzzzzzz. Stuff u fake ass lyin christian jew woteva da hell u call urselves. U shudda neva transgressed and lied about gods word. Wait. We will c.

  62. The reason that the Quoran hasn’t been tampered with is because the devil doesn’t need to. He did a good job with it.

    The Bible has been the target of the devil from the beginning because he hates it so much. He just loves it when he can get people to rewrite it or change things around or point out what they perceive as errors, etc.

    The Catholic church was developed by the devil to deceive the world into thinking that Catholicism is true Christianity. That is why many believers in Allah are so mislead about Christianity. The Catholic church also was the biggest persecutor of Christians and Jews for many centuries and was against the translation of the Bible into common languages like English or French or even it being read by the average person. The fighting between Muslims and Catholics, the crusade period, did not include Christians. It was between Catholics and Muslims.

    The first thing to understand is that we are all born once of earthly parents. Jesus spoke of being born again. That is a spiritual birth, just as real and involving as the first birth in flesh and blood. That is what Christianity is all about. That is the beginning of a person’s walk with God.

    In order for Islam to work, the Bible has to be discredited. In order for Catholicism to work, the Bible has to be discredited. In order for Mormonism to work the Bible has to be discredited. In order for evolution and atheism to work the Bible has to be discredited. It sure looks like a lot of people have a problem with the Bible and Jesus being the Messiah and Savior of the world, in whom we have forgiveness of sins and everlasting life and in Him alone we are complete.

    Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

    1. congratulations you just shot yourself in the foot again. to quote:

      A Christian is a Christian is a Christian
      Being a Christian is not a denomination. Catholocism is a Christian denomination. Being Christian is simply a matter of believing that Jesus died for our sins and was resurected from the dead. It is simply accepting the fact that all men are sinners, including ourselves and accepting the grace that God provided through the sacrifice of his son.

      There is no Christian VS Catholic any more than there is Christian VS Baptist or Methodist or any other denomination.

      Now if you were referring to differences between protestant and catholic, that is a different issue. But even there the differences are based in tedium and differences in tradition. Both incorporate the same God and the same saviour.

      so basically cathlocism is simply A SECT of christianity as is being a born again christian.

      why does the bible need discrediting for islam to work? the quran contains alot of in depth accounts which can also be found in the bible, are you saying the bible is also falsified meaning christianity is also false ? google for the answer and come back to me on that one.

  63. ivarfjeld says:
    September 18, 2010 at 12:32 am
    “Dear Likisormala

    Shalom.

    You are always welcome back.

    You wrote:

    Your early priests lead you astray when they made you believe that Jesus was son of Allah

    My comment:

    The problem is, that when Jesus walked on Earth, “allah” was the moon god they worshiped in Mecca. There was no Islam, and no prophet Muhammad.

    Your prophet who brought the World the knowledge of “allah” was born 600 years after Jesus. So how could we have been lead astray?

    Jesus said He came as a servant of God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel. The Messiah never spoke about Mecca, the moon god, or an Arab prophet that would bring in a totally new book that would contradict the Bible.”

    Errrrr actually Islam is the religion of prophet Abraham p.b.u.h who coincidentely was in arabia, hence the black stone, Makkah, and Hajj. wouldnt expect you to know any better though being so ignorant. whoever said “ignorance is bliss” was right ignorace is bliss in this life but it is going to cost you a heavy price in the next. Considering you want to debate the knowledge you have or should i say lack is astounding you dont have the faintest clue about anything other then your so called religion. Whats even more astounding is the fact you claim other religions to be false and yours to be true even though you really dont have the faintest what your babbling on about. it looks like your just randomnly throwing together quotes and praying they make sense and are airtight so not too many questions are asked. And gloria seems to be quoting the same verse over and over which i find pretty hilarious since she seems to be a parrot stuck in a loop. good luck with your debate although you will probably find it more helpful to verify what you want to say beforehand rather then just posting randomn dribble about another religion.

  64. I do not understand one very simple thing, why people do not still think that there is only one true and wealthy god, who is the god of ADAM, ABRAHAM, Issac, Moses, Jesus and finaly Muhammad.(PBU all).All prophet was Muslim. Muslim meaning is the ‘surrender to one god’. All prophets left one message to all mankind that, ‘just follow one god’.

    If christian believe that jesus is their god, or son of god and they also believe jesus has been tempted by satan(it is written in their own bible) according to , according to, according to sorry I forgot who it was, how it is possible that god can be tempted by satan.

    And also they believe that God has been crucified.It is so rediculas. God cannot not be crucified or dead.
    If it is the actual case then he is not a god.

    They also gave a reference from bible that jesus said, me and my father is one.Most of christian has been misguided with this sentense. If it is true,I found a logical conclusion that jesus told his companion that if someone follows jesus commandment, that means he is following Gods commandment.

    If jesus is son of god, what about Adam. He was also created without father. He is also son of GOD. Actually this son is not begotten son, this is symbolic son.We everybody is the son of god as god created us.

    May allah give us knowledge to understand the fact.

  65. I will tell my christian bro please read and understand quran, as we read your bible. No one need any intermediary to go to haven or hell if you have one to one relationship with your creator. Every person will be responsible for their own sins or good deeds.And also no doubt every human child born as innocent baby.

  66. Logical conclusion is better than just only defending your faith, without answering so many why? I think the reader will decide who is right and who is wrong.

    1. Dear Liton.

      Shalom.

      I found, and released the two comments you wanted to see published. This is a site of free expression, and I do not want to censor genuine people.

      Your comment:

      Logical conclusion is better than just only defending your faith, without answering so many why? I think the reader will decide who is right and who is wrong.

      My reply:

      Faith is not based on logical conclusions. No one can see God with our eyes, still many believe He exist. I have not met Jesus physically, neither were you on Earth when Muhammad came to Mecca. But I know Jesus is alive. I have felt His love for me in my heart and spirit, and seen “impossible” things happen, when I have asked Him to help me and my brothers and sisters.

      I have also seen Jesus changing a few Muslims just in front of my eyes. Their spirit became alive, when they understood the love Jesus has shared for them. Him dying to pay the penalty for their sins.

  67. Here is a link to the concept of “Abrogation in Islam”.

    While the Muslims argue with the Bible they also fail to disclose that they don’t all agree about the Quoran either. There are different branches of Islam. It’s not one big happy family.

    1. Dear all believers of Muhammad.

      Shalom.

      While I was sleeping, another 3.000 Muslims have blessed me by reading this article. I want to let you know that Jesus the Son of God loves all Muslims. He wants them all to know the truth. Please feel free to read other articles , like the one about the black stone Muslims are being told to worship in Mecca.

      https://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2010/03/07/bible-studies-42-muslims-worship-a-black-stone-in-mecca-fallen-from-the-moon/

    2. Dear all readers.

      Shalom, and special blessings to all believers in Muhammad who will visit us today.

      I fully understand that Muslims have problems to see the difference between the Catholic faith, and true followers of Jesus. Please take a look at today’s top story. The Catholic worship, adore or venerate two “fingers” and a “tooth” of a dead man.

      To even make idols like this is called sin and wickedness in the Bible. I guess even the Koran does not permit this.

      1. it has been explained to you by so many muslims that . he had maaried but not been with her until she was mature….

      2. Dear Huzaifah.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        it has been explained to you by so many muslims that . he had maaried but not been with her until she was mature….

        My reply:

        This is not an issue of Muhammad having sex with this small girl, or not. It is what is improper for any man to do.

        A Muslim might find it noble, to marry away girls at the age of six. True Christians will never do that. We consider these children to be safer with their parents.

        Muhammad should not have married a minor girl. Why on Earth did He desire to have such a young bride, a man that also felt the need to have 11 wife’s?

        Any man should have enough with one.

  68. 9/11 was an inside job, the whole world knows and also on the 11th of september 2001, every single jew that worked in the twin tower and surrounding buildings were all at home knowing this terrorist attack was going to take place by jews them sevles. Only reason america is in afganistan and iraq is to steal oil. Any ways christianity is all bullshit, islam is the true religion and Allah punished that ugly inbred pastor bob old by making him die on the spot in a car crash. ALLAH HU AKBAR!!!

    1. 9/11,

      The topic here is the Quran. Whether you belive 9/11 was an inside job done by the Jews is the silliest thing I’ve ever heard.

      I guess those Muslims that blew up the planes were really Jews in disguise?

      You opinion is based on lies.

      God Bless.

      1. Ivar,

        I guess it’s good evening over there? You were right from the beginning. It is a huge blessing to see so many muslims on this topic here. I hope Christ has touched the heart of many.

        I am on my way to run some errands 🙂 I will be back later. Have a great evening Ivar.

      2. Huzaifah,

        As I mentioned earlier, I will not be answering any questions on 9/11.

        Many people lost there lives that day, and the proof is: that these Muslim men committed that horrible act of violence.

        That is all I’ll be saying on it.

        God Bless you.

      3. WELL I DNT WANT TO DEBATE IT EITHER BUT YOU ARE WRONG..
        MUSLIM MEN DIDNT COMMIT THE HORRIBLE ACT.IT WAS THE GOVERMENT
        YOU WERE FED A LIE.
        DNT BE BLIND TO ACCEPT WHAT EVER YOUR EYES SEE… SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH.. CHECK THE LINK.

      4. 9/11 was an inside job. But, don’t look at it as committed by muslims, jews or christians. Look at it as committed by “insiders”, the powers that be so that the “outsiders” the rest of us will do what they say. Believe the lie and the actions follow accordingly. 3000 died in the twin towers and maybe 1 million or more in the wars afterwards. The burning of the reichstag maybe 1 people died or just a lost building, Resulting in 60 million deaths in WWII. Yeah if you believe the war is about 9/11 or WWII was about the reichstag…

      5. Dear Ed.

        Shalom.

        The 9/11 attackers were not Buddhists from Nepal. They were Muslims from Saudia Arabia. They all shouted “allah is Great”. How come you missed this?

      6. Because the hypocrites who say Jesus is lord let it happen and more. Nobody could have rigged those buildings with explosives and staged an airplane attack without full control of the media, law enforcement, building security, airplanes, military etc.

      7. Dear Ed.

        If you fly a Boeing 767 into a building fully loaded with fuel, you do not need extra explosives to bring that building down. The plain has become a huge bomb.

        You are accusing Christians of extreme evil, and letting Radical Muslims off the hock. Totally without reason.

        Only Islam will benefit from this. Osama Bin Laden must be laughing. You support the wrong guys.

      8. Nope, not even remotely possible for those building to come down the way they did from those airplane hits. The fuel burned off in the first few seconds. The buildings smoked for about half an hour then suddenly collapsed in about 10 seconds. Alot of people just can’t bring themselves to think clearly about the unimagineable, or never allow themselves to objectively find the truth, but some people did.

        http://www.ae911truth.org/

      9. Dear Ed.

        Shalom.

        What you are writing is absolutely non sense.

        If you set ablaze a petrol tanker inside a building, the tanker will explode. It will still not stop burning after two minutes. The very iron will be set one fire and burn for a long time.

        The uranium in a nuclear bomb will burn up in a fraction of a second. But the fire will trigger a bigger chain reaction, and the fireball will burn and destroy everything in several square kilometers.

        A fully loaded Boeing 767 hold 23,980 U.S. gal of petrol. That is 90.770 liters. When such a bomb goes of inside a building, it will set several floors on fire. Everything will melt. The walls of the Twin Towers melted, and gave in. There were several floors on top of the crash site that came crashing down. The weight of this falling floors was to much to handle for the construction. It was an unthinkable not calculated damage done to the more than 100 floors high building. It collapsed.

        Your views and your writings are very much anti-Christian. It is the teaching and doctrines of Osama Bin Laden, That he is a lesser evil used by “allah”, and America the greater Satan. Its a disgrace.

    2. Well your biased Ivar. You have something to gain from believing the lie. You gain anti-muslim support with people believing the Muslims did it. Christianity is about truth not lies. I would say you are anti Christian. You havent looked into the facts of 9/11 at all, nothing for you to gain from doing so.

      1. Ed,

        You said: Well your biased Ivar. You have something to gain from believing the lie. You gain anti-muslim support with people believing the Muslims did it. Christianity is about truth not lies. I would say you are anti Christian.

        My Comment: That is a horrible comment Ed. Because Ivar and myself do not believe that the goverment was behind 9/11 you call us ant-christians? How does believing in Jesus Christ have anything to do with the twin towers collapsing? You say Ivar gain’s anti-muslim support with people believing Muslims did it? Absolutely ridiculous.

        Let me say a little thing about myself. I live in NY, and I’m literally 15 minutes from Manhattan. When that day occured, I was truly frightened. But before picking up my son, and making sure my family was safe, I prayed to Christ. I prayed and asked him to protect everyone. And you say I’m ant-christian?

        Ultimately the Word of God says:
        John 16:33 “I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”

        Instead of accusing anyone that they have something to “gain”, you should remember Ed, that Jesus is there for us all.

      2. Dear Gloria.

        Shalom.

        Ed wrote:

        You gain anti-muslim support with people believing the Muslims did it.

        My reply:

        Nobody who is with his spiritual senses can dispute that there were 12 terrorists from the Islamic Kingdom of Saudi Arabia who attacked New York and Pentagon on 9/11.

        They did not shout “Buddha is great”.

        And to call people who reminds Americans about this fact for “anti-Christians”, is the absolute nadir of foolishness.

  69. There is a thin line between psychosis and religion. Were all crazies sometimes or most of the time.

    But we should all have the right to be crazy if we want to and arent harming anyone.

    Stop offending faiths with book burnings, stop trying to convert people, just live side by side and re-focus your energies on your family.

    1. Dear Dr. Merriam.

      Shalom and welcome to this site.

      You wrote:

      Stop offending faiths with book burnings, stop trying to convert people.

      My comment:

      Jesus did not force anybody to follow Him, or believe in His message. He spoke to the hearts of people. When a man know that in his sins, He will be judged and forever separated from everything good, He will understand that He needs to be saved. People who have made Jesus their Master understand that sin will not be accepted by God Almighty.

  70. I just wake up, and I found two of my comments what i have posted it before go to bed has not been released.
    I just asking my admnistrator, could you please post those comments

    1. Dear Liton.

      Shalom, and welcome back to this debate.

      I am sorry for deleting your message. It was not done on purpose. Please republish your comment. The problem I faced this morning as the editor of this blog, was hundreds of hate comments. I was not able to sort out fake messages and spam from the messages from genuine people.

      I am still blessed that almost 20.000 Muslims have visited this site in less than 48 hours. I sincerely wants to treat them as my guests, and explain to them that Jesus in God, and that He loves them.

  71. Salam my christian brother,

    Read carefuly, Why did Abraham, Moses, David, John, Issac, Jacob fight for? To establish the oneness of God.
    Why your Jesus (PBUH) teaching will be different from other messanger,it is simple logic.He also said to you to obey one God, that his father.If he said , he is the son, and he and his father is one that is not meaning that he is god or begotten son of god.

    So what is the misconception here? The word ‘father’ means a symbolic father not biological father.God is the powerful he cannot have sex with women to give birth a baby.If he wants something to be done, he just say “be”. So all messanger is the son of God, in that way.

    Think about Adam. He also was created by God without father.Logicaly he would be the eldest son and your jesus then remain younger son, if you believe someone born without father or biologicaly is the son of God.

    Even if Jesus said ‘me and my father is one’.That means he told you that if you follow his commandment , you are following his father (Allah’s) commandment.

    Jesus has been tempted by Devil few times according to your Bible.One very simple thing everyone will understand that A God cannot be tempted by Satan(Devil).If Jesus is tempted by Satan, then he is not a God.

    And also you believe God has been crucified.Who did this horondus crime. Jews, yes, they were right. They wanted to probe that jesus is not GOD. Because God cannot be crucified. So jesus is the messanger of Allah.

    So it is the time to realise by every human being that there is one true God we only can worship.There is no intermidiary needed to take you to haven or hell. Every human will be responsible for their own sin and Good deeds, that will take them to haven or hell. So it is an one to one relationship between God and Human.Moreover, every human child born as innocent not a sinner according to your religion.

    Please do not make religion complicated. Very simple logic just obey one God who created you, me, heaven, hell, angles everything. If you do any mistake just ask forgiveness, he is opt forgiving.

    If you are still confuse about religion just wake up in the middle of the night and say, o lord (who created me), please guide me. Hope Allah will guide you right path.

    1. Dear Liton.

      Shalom, and thanks for blessing me with a new message.

      You wrote:

      God is the powerful he cannot have sex with women to give birth a baby.

      My comment:

      Now, you are limiting God. Why can not God do this? Even Muslims believe that Miriam was a virgin, when she gave birth to Jesus. How can a virgin get pregnant?

    2. Dear Liton.

      Shalom.

      You wrote:

      Every human will be responsible for their own sin and Good deeds, that will take them to heaven or hell.

      My comment:

      How can we get rid of sins?

      How much good work do we have to do, to enter the Kingdom of Heaven”

      Muhammad had no good explanation. Jesus has. He said: I will pay for your sins. When everything is paid for, you do not have to add anything. He set us free from the guilt and stains of sins.

  72. It is sad to know that the follower of the sky books i.e. Quran and Bible are suppose to be brethren. As a Muslim I can not think of making any kind of joke or hatred of The Holy Bible. A general Christian may not understand but I am sure that Pastor will, that Jesus (Prophet Isa AS) was a great peace lover on this earth. I don’t know how This Pastor could think such a satanic thing. Let other Pastors who understand The Holy Bible and it’s message of peace, make Pastor Old to leave his post and wait for his bad times to come as Allah has His own responsibility of The Holy Quran.

    1. Dear Naved.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      You wrote:

      Quran and Bible are suppose to be brethren.

      My reply:

      It seems that Muhammad and Jesus do disagree how we shall handle people who do not believe in their message:

      First one of more 140 Jihad verses in the Koran:

      Sura 5:33]
      «The just retribution for those who fight God (Allah) and His messenger (Muhammad), and commit horrendous crimes, is to be killed, or crucified, or to have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or to be banished from the land. This is to humiliate them in this life, then they suffer a far worse retribution in the Hereafter».

      Than the Words of Jesus:

      Matthew 5:44
      But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.

      When we see Muslims killing Muslims, even blowing up Mosques, we should understand that these verses of the Koran are the source for such disturbing behavior.

      I guess when a Muslim blow up a Mosque, there will be many Korans that will be burnt?

      I have not seen many Muslims being very concerned in Public over such Koran burnings. I guess they are to scared to tell the truth.

  73. salaam Everyone,
    Well i m new to this site and i have seen i bundle of blogs in this site, conversation between muslims and ignorant cristains. I haven’t had time to read all its alot of discussion, but let me start from here, Bible is the word of historain, etc. Is not the word of God, bible has been changed alot of time(i ll show proof to ignorant cristains). But remember ISLAM IS THE ONLY RELIGION WHO LL INTER IN EVERY HOME IN EUROPE US N THE REST OF THE WORLD- C U LATER

  74. Dear All Brothers and Sisters of this debate,
    first i would like to put up the proper quote Gloria states which is:
    “Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just. ” (6:8), similar, but definitely not the same, and i hope and pray for God to forgive you for your ignorance, and i must say i truly respect the Christan people and faith, and i would never on any terms try to twist the words of their holy book, and the Muslim brothers and sister, i would recommend you to strongly refrain from using unhealthy language, Disgusting “burn in the fire of hell”, brother, you know your not the judge of that statement, as God is, so people please try to stop judging one and other and acting like animals.

    I pray for you all

    1. Dear Ibrahim

      Shalom, and thanks for joining this debate.

      You wrote:

      i would recommend you to strongly refrain from using unhealthy language, Disgusting “burn in the fire of hell”, brother, you know your not the judge of that statement, as God is, so people please try to stop judging one and other and acting like animals.

      My reply:

      I feel it is wrong when a Muslim curses another Muslim. People who believe in love and salvation, do not want to loose anyone. People who believe in Jesus will surely try to bless anyone they face, regardless of who they are, and what they have done.

      1. Dear ivar,

        you said: I feel it is wrong when a Muslim curses another Muslim.

        replay: My brother, in which way did i curse another Muslim, I just recommended him to be polite, and to refrain from using unhealthy words, I don’t understand why you are twisting my words in that way. Brother please think before accusing others.

    2. Ibrahim,

      The Holy Word of God warned us about the Islam religion and Mohammed in advance. Thank you Jesus for letting us know in advance.

      No matter how many ways you and your muslim believers write and say it’s a relgion of peace, I will hold to God’s word and say it is a religion filled with lies. And lies are from the devil.

      Pick up THE HOLY BIBLE THE WORD OF GOD, and you can read the truth. Seek Christ with and open heart, and repent, and you will see the truth.

      Matthew 24:35
      Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.

      1. Gloria,

        Can you please state a quote from the bible in which it warns you about Islam, being filled with lies, and are from the devil, because I’m just very curious.

        that will be appreciated.

      2. Ibrahim,

        I apologize for the late reply, but I am not online alot during weekends.

        The bible tells us about false teachers in advance.

        1 John 4:1
        Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

        2 Peter 2:1
        But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.

        2 Timothy 3:13
        While evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

  75. Salam brother Ivar,
    How mirium get pregnant? your first question.

    God is powerful according to him, in taorah, in quran, in bible he explained himself.If he wants to do something, he just say “be”. then it will be there.

    The miracle birth has been explained in the Quran. How it has happened? So please at lease you should read ‘Sura Mariam’in the Quran.or go to You tube and search Sura Mariam with english translation .It is all about Jesus and Mirium. Then you will get answer.

    Your 2nd and last question, how much good deed we should do to go to heaven?

    simple answer, do not do any bad things to others, gods will, you will get reward.Why not talk to true god yourself from your heart. He will answer you.

    1. Dear Liton.

      Shalom.

      Is it possible for a man, never to do bad things? Have you never told a white lie, at least once? What about being selfish, or cheated someone?

  76. That question has been answered before. Anyway i am answering again, if you do any bad things, just seek forgiveness from only true god who is the owner of haven or hell. He will forgive you as he promised in his holy book.

    Allah also said, if no man would do any wrong, i would destroy them, instead i would make another creation who would do wrong, and seek refuse to me.
    God is most beneficient and mercifull. He like to forgive his creation.

    Think, if you do not do any wrong things, you are an angles not human. God has created you as human not angles. When you realise you did wrong as human then you will remember your god and cry yourself to him for forgiveness. God will forgive you as he promised.

    1. To Liton or anyone else;

      Sincerely asking, Pls explain why there would be two types of Muslims? One peaceful? One radical? If the Qur’an is the ONE true book, unaltered and it’s the one ALL muslims read and follow, what’s the reasoning behind the 2 extremes?

      And (in all seriousness and curiousity) is that really all you have to do to be forgiven of your sins? Jus’ ask? And is that the only way God would have anything to do with me, if I did sin, jus’ so I would go to him?

      Please, may the God of Abrahm, Isaac and Jacob enlighten us All. Glory to Jehovah!

  77. dear iverfjeld, you found some good verse in the bible so it doesnt mean the bible is the word of God, well trust me i ll show u alot of nonsence in ur bible which i promise u by urself dont know, ok just tell me one thing, ARE YOU VIRGIN? Absolutly not, so according to ur holy book u must be stone to death, read ur holy verse. But if this charge is true (that she wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB

    1. Dear Khan.

      Shalom.

      Thanks for reading the Bible. This verse is from the law of Moses. God of the Bible wanted to preserve His people, the Jews. They were not supposed to have sex before marriage, and not to marry other than Jews.

      The Jews was very much under threat of being destroyed as a people, just as they are today. To preserve them, God made a strict Law. Capital punishment was meant to preserve them. Not to harm them.

      Jesus did not change the Law, but he changed a lot by taking the capital punishment we all deserve as Law breakers.

    1. Dear Sco.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      Your question is like the everlasting dilemma. Who came first: The Chicken or the egg? Do you have a good answer?

      Father God is eternal. When something is eternal, it has no beginning and no end. God the Son, Jesus of Nazareth is also eternal. He came down from Heaven, took flesh and walked as a man among sinners for 33 years.

      1. dear ivarfjeld
        You speak of God being eternal, that is indeed one of his attributes but God is also infinite and cannot be limited by place or time. God cannot be split into parts as this would be placing limits. These attributes mean that as the creator of the heaven and the earth God cannot be limited by being in his creation as that which is infinite cannot go into something finite.
        So when it comes to the Isa (as) it is not possible God to be within a body.

      2. Dear Abu Hafs.

        Shalom, and thanks for a good comment.

        You wrote:

        God cannot be limited by being in his creation as that which is infinite cannot go into something finite.

        My reply:

        Can you tell God what He can do, and not do?

        If God wants to come down from Heaven, and take form of a man, who can stop Him?

  78. Why Jesus is not a god but a Messanger?

    We Muslims have no hesitation in acknowledging that in the Bible, there are three different kinds of witnessing recognizable without any need of specialized training. These are:

    1. You will be able to recognize in the Bible what may be described as “The Word of God.”

    2. You will also be able to discern what can be described as the “Words of a Prophet of God.”

    3. And you will most readily observe that the bulk of the Bible is the records of eye witnessess or ear witnesses, or people writing from hearsay. As such they are the “Words of a Historian”

    You do not have to hunt for examples of these different types of evidences in the Bible. The following quotations will make the position crystal clear:

    The FIRST Type:

    (a) I will raise them up a prophet . . . and I will put my words in … and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.” (Deuteronomy 18:18)

    (b) I even, I am the Lord, and beside me there is no saviour.” (Isaiah 43:11)

    (c) “Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the end of the earth: for I am God, and there is non else.” (Isaiah 45:22)

    Note the first person pronoun singular (highlighted in green) in the above references, and without any difficulty you will agree that the statements seem to have the sound of being GOD’S WORD.

    The SECOND Type:

    (a) “Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying Eli, Eli, lama sabachtani? . . .” (Matthew 27:46)

    (b) “And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord:” (Mark 12:29)

    (c) “And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God.” (Mark 10:18).

    Even a child will be able to affirm that: Jesus “cried” Jesus “answered” and Jesus “said” are the words of the one to whom they are attributed, i.e. the WORDS OF A PROPHET OF GOD.

    1. Dear Liton

      Shalom.

      First, I would like to thank you for reading the Bible, and even using verses from the Bible to defend your understanding of who Jesus is.

      Second, not all you say is false, or incorrect. Jesus explains many places that He is completely human. To deny His humanity, no true followers of Jesus will do.

      The issue in you teaching, is wherever in the Bible, Jesus or His Father claims that Jesus is divine. That Jesus is God, equal to His Father.

      Lets take a look at two verses:

      John 20:28
      Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

      John 1:14
      The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

      (end of scripture)

      The Word of God is eternal. Jesus is this eternal Word, that came to Earth, and manifested in the flesh as a being, a complete human. Jesus is much more than a prophet. He fulfilled the Law and all prophecies. He was the promised salvation, explained to the Jews as King Messiah.

  79. The THIRD Type:

    “And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he, (JESUS) came, if haply he (JESUS) might find anything thereon: and when he (JESUS) came to it, (Jesus) found nothing but leaves . . .” (Mark 11:13)

    The bulk of the Bible is a witnessing of this THIRD kind. These are the words of a third person. Note the underlined pronouns. They are not the Words of God or of His prophet, but the WORDS OF A HISTORIAN.

    For the Muslim it is quite easy to distinguish the above types of evidence, because he also has them in his own faith. But of the followers of the different religions, he is the most fortunate in this that his various records are contained in separate Books!

    ONE: The first kind — THE WORD OF GOD — is found in a Book called The Holy Qur’an.

    TWO: The second kind — THE WORDS OF THE PROPHET OF GOD, (Muhummed, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) are recorded in the Books of Tradition called The Hadith.

    THREE: Evidence of the third kind abounds in different volume of Islamic history, written by some of high integrity and learning, and others of lesser trustworthiness, but the Muslim advisedly keeps his Books in separate volumes!

    The Muslim keeps the above three types of evidence Jealously apart, in their proper gradations of authority. He never equates them. On the other hand, the “Holy Bible” contains a motley type of literature, which composes the embarrassing kind, the sordid, and the obscene — all under the same cover — A Christian is forced to concede equal spiritual import and authority to all, and is thus unfortunate in this regard

    1. Dear Liton:

      May I ask, how exactly was the Qur’an created? Is there a verse explaining?
      For the most part, I know that Gabriel and Mohammed were involved? But the hows/wheres/whens I would appreciate, thanks. Glory to Yahweh!!

  80. Now Bob Old is dead in a ghast crash. He is already there answering before the Owner of the Qur’an he hated and tought you guys to hate as well. What is left is you now on the waiting list. Allah is waiting for you……

    1. Dear Submitter to God.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      That Pastor Bob Old is dead, is a rumor circulating among Muslims. Please google, and you will see that there is no reliable news source that support such rumors.

      In regards to my life in Earth. It will be Jesus who control my entry and my exit. He also loves you, and will come and change your evil desires if you permits Him.

      Since your email was full of evil in the name of Allah, I will spam your next message. Now I have warned you in advance.

      1. dear ivarfjeld

        Submitter to God is wrong. As Muslims we believe it is only the persons end that determines whether a person dies as a believer or disbeliever. Up until that time Allah can guide whom he wills and so even you can believe as many christian have embraced Islam.

      2. Dear Abu hafs.

        Shalom.

        Thanks for rebuking Submitter to God for doing wrong. Since He uses the name of “Allah”, has he misunderstood the Koran?

  81. THE MULTIPLE BIBLE VERSIONS

    Before we scrutinize the various versions, let us clarify our own belief regarding the Books of God. When we say that we believe in the Tauraat, the Zaboor, the Injeel and the Qur’an, what do we really mean? We already know that the Holy Qur’an is the infallible Word of God, revealed to our Holy Prophet Hazrat Muhummed Mustapha (Peace be upon him) word for word, through the agency of the Archangel Jibraeel, (known as Gabriel in English), and perfectly preserved and protected from human tampering for the past fourteen hundred years! 1 Even hostile critics of Islam have grudgingly vouched for the purity of the Holy Qur’an: “THERE IS PROBABLY IN THE WORLD NO OTHER BOOK WHICH HAS REMAINED TWELVE CENTURIES (now fourteen) WITH SO PURE A TEXT.” — (Sir William Muir)

    The “gospel” is a frequently-used word, but what Gospel did Jesus preach? Of the 27 books of the New Testament, only a small fraction can be accepted as the words of Jesus. The Christians boast about the Gospels according to St. Matthew, according to St. Mark, according to St. Luke and according to St. John, but there is not a single Gospel “according” to (St.) Jesus himself! We sincerely believe that everything Christ (May the peace and blessings of God be upon him) preached was from God. That was the Injeel, the good news and the guidance of God for the Children of Israel. In his life-time Jesus never wrote a single word, nor did he instruct anyone to do so. What passes off as the “GOSPELS” today are the works of anonymous hands!

    The question before us is: “Do you accept that the Bible is God’s Word?” The question is really in the form of a challenge. The questioner is not simply seeking enlightenment. The question is posed in the spirit of a debate. We have every right to demand in a similar vein — “Which Bible are you talking about?”, we may ask. “Why, there is only ONE Bible!”

    1. Dear Liton.

      Shalom.

      Thanks for making this site an interesting place for debate.

      You wrote:

      We sincerely believe that everything Christ (May the peace and blessings of God be upon him) preached was from God.

      My reply:

      So you are in the same shoes as the gospel writers, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

      If you do not believe them, how would you come to know the teachings of Jesus?

      They lived in the same generation as Him, and we believe that they met Him personally.

      If there was no record done by them, how would Muhammad have come to know the teachings of Jesus?

      And since Muhammad walked on Earth 600 years after Jesus, how would He be more capable of telling us the correct teachings of Jesus?

      What you just wrote was a contradiction, and will not make sense to anyone. Please read the Bible, and accept the Word of God.

  82. Dear Ivar,

    You are quoting again some verses from John what I have answered in my earlier post.Even you do not want to concentrate what i have posted and keep defend your faith, the reader will deside who is wrong, the true will reveal one day

    1. Dear Liton.

      Shalom.

      Sorry for that. I did not remember that you already had written a reply to the message from Thomas, addressing Jesus as God. What was your reply? Please remind me.

      I will also quote another verse:

      Luke 3:22
      and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.”

      Here Father God confirms that He has a Son.

      1. Dear ivarfjeld

        The Bible has many “sons of God” these were never understood as literal but as authorotative figures otherwise King David is also the literal “son of God” and so are the angels

      2. Dear Abu hafs

        Shalom.

        There is again truth in what you are saying. I am also a son of God. My destiny is the Kingdom of Heaven, and Jesus have given me this kingdom citizenship. But Jesus is greater than King David, Moses and me. Jesus is the only begotten son of God. Not created, not formed. But unique, and eternal. The Alpha and Omega.

  83. Dear ivarfjeld
    What Liton says makes perfect sense. He wants to know what quotes do you have from the bible of Isa (as) himself saying that he is God not what his followers are saying.

    Secondly Prophet Muhammad (saw) did not study the teachings of Isa (as) as he was unlettered, but the Quran reflects the real teaching of Isa(as).

    As far as accepting the Bible as the true word of God, which set of Gospels should be considered the word of God as there are more Gospels that did not make it within the current bible. So who decided what was the word of God and what was not. such as the Gnostic Apocolype of Peter. Did the early christians follow the Nicean creed which was formulated after their time?

    1. Dear Abu Hafs.

      Shalom.

      Please also answer my questions: Did Submitter to God misunderstand the Koran?

      You asked me for verses, where Jesus Him self explained that He is God.

      Here are four verses:

      John 11:25
      Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies;

      (end of verse)

      Can a man rise from the grave? Jesus did not say He known how to get life, or what life is. He claim to be life it self.

      John 10:9
      I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. He will come in and go out, and find pasture.

      Only God can save. Jesus explains that He saves people. He say He is the gate, and that no one can pass into the Kingdom of Heaven but through Him.

      John 14:6
      Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

      (end of verse).

      John 4:24-26:
      God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.” The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”Then Jesus declared, “I who speak to you am he.”

      Jesus claims to be the Messiah, the King of Kings, and the Lord of Lords. Amen.

      1. Dear ivarfjeld

        Sorry, about submitter to God

        I dont know what he misunderstood in the Quran. But he misunderstood the Islamic principles of judgement.

      2. Dear Abu Hafs

        Shalom.

        Thanks for your explanation about Submitter to God. He took the name of “allah”, and did wrong, cursing in the name of your god. How will he be judged according to the Koran?

        What about Islamic suicide bombers, and Muslims who blow up Mosques shouting “Allah is great”?

  84. Dear ivarfjeld

    What you have quoted is a matter of interpretation. All the Prophets were like gates as all the people in their time HAD to follow them in order to reach GOD. This does not show he thought he was GOD.

    Only GOD saves but GOD sends Prophets to save the people so by Isa(as) saying this is no claim to his divinity.

    Your last statement “Jesus claims to be the Messiah, the King of Kings, and the Lord of Lords. Amen.”

    where does he say hes the King of Kings or Lord of Lords??

    1. Dear Abu hafs.

      Shalom.

      Thanks for blessings me, asking me for the verses in the Bible that explains that Jesus is equal to God our Father.

      1 Timothy 6:14-16 (New International Version)

      to keep this command without spot or blame until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which God will bring about in his own time—God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen.

      (end of scripture)

      This verse is the Jewish Apostle Paul, explaining that God is the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. I do not think a Muslim will object to this.

      And in the revelation by the Apostles John, Jesus the Lamb of God is given the same status.

      Revelation 17:14
      They will make war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will overcome them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”

    2. Dear Abu Hafs.

      Shalom.

      The Jewish prophet speaks about God, as the eternal King.

      Jeremiah 10:10
      But the LORD is the true God; he is the living God, the eternal King. When he is angry, the earth trembles; the nations cannot endure his wrath.

      (end of verse)

      We who believe in Jesus, wants to share with you all, that the Messiah is this King. Even to the Roman Governor in Jerusalem, Jesus confirms He is the King of the Jews.

      As you know, the kingdom of Jesus was not of this World. So He speaks about being King of the eternal Kingdom.

      John 18:36
      Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place.”

    3. In revelations, King of kings is written on his leg. The part right above the brass foot spoken of in prophesy. The serpent lies in wait at his heal, (meaning the rich men lie in wait to catch the poor and rob them, use them etc.) …And he shall crush their head. That means he’s going to stomp on the heads of the leaders of this world, because they all suck and are corrupt.

      1. Ok, I was a bit wrong. It says King of Kings is written on his vesture. That can have a few meanings. Vesture is clothing but can also be used figuratively such as the hills were covered in a vesture of green grass. So true to the seventh spirit of God, the spirit of wonder he still keeps us guessing.

  85. Dear ivarfjeld

    The verses you have quoted are again not quotes by Isa(as) about himself but quotes of Paul. So all Muslims will have a problem with this.

    Paul is a controvertial figure in the early church and changed a lot of the teaching of Isa (as) to the extent that many modern commentators say that the christianity of today is pauline christianity not the christianity followed by the early christians from the family of isa (as).

    1. Dear Abu Hafs.

      Shalom.

      I do not agree that there are proof of the Apostle Paul disagreeing with Jesus. The Messiah Him self spoke about being the King of the Jews, a King that has a Kingdom that is not of this World.

      1. Dear ivarfjeld

        Being the King of the jews is very different to being the King of kings.

        Paul did not meet Isa(as), we agree.
        According to the bible isa(as) commanded mankind to strictly observe the religion of Moses until the end of time (mat 5:18) and that “unless you show yourselves far better than the scribes and Pharisees, you can never enter the kingdom of heaven”. Further isa(as) said that observing the religion and laws given to Moses and the selling of their belongings would make them achieve entry into heaven(luk 18:18)

        Now paul on the other hand savagely persecuted many christians and then has a vision which contained “unspeakable words that are unlawful to utter” after which he believes it was isa(as) and then starts preaching to the people and say he will do whatever it takes to get people to follow him even if it involves behaving outside the law (1 corinthians 9:20)
        He then takes away the need to follow the commandments.

      2. Dear Abu hafs.

        Shalom,

        You wrote:

        Being the King of the Jews is very different to being the King of kings.

        My reply:

        Jesus said: My Kingdom is not of this World”. He is the king of the Jews, who reign as King in the Kingdom of Heaven. He will come back and reign as THE King over all Kings, and bring judgment on the World. Sinners who do not repent and obey Him, will perish.

      3. Dear all believers in Muhammad.

        Shalom.

        There has been more than 3.200 Muslim visitors to this site today. Please remind me, if I do not treat you as proper guests. May Jesus, the Son of God touch you, as you come to know the truth about Him. Amen.

  86. Dear ivarfjeld

    One of the early Books of the Bible considered a book of revelation by the church is the Shephard of hermes. It it the first commandment is

    “Believe that God is One and that he created all things and organised them, and out of what did not exist made all things to be, and he contains all things but Alone is Himself uncontained. Trust him therefor and fear him, and fearing him be self-controlled. Keep this command and you will cast away from yourself all wickedness, put on every virtue of uprightness, and you will live to God if you keep this commandment”

    How different to the current christian creed

    1. Dear Abu hafs

      Shalom, and thanks so much for making this debate vibrant.

      I have never heard about the book, The Shephard of hermes. I will google and come back. Since Satan wants to destroy the true scriptures, the children of the devil have come up with several false books, and tried to include them in the Bible.

      1. Dear ivarfjeld
        Look up also the Gnostic Apocolype of Peter

        There were a lot of Gospels that were left out just because the church at the time did not want to believe in what they had to say.

        The current ethiopian bible contains far more gospels than your bible, does that mean they are not rightly guided?

      2. Dear Abu hafs.

        Shalom.

        I am impressed about your knowledge about Jesus and the Bible. You are either an imam, or a truth seeker.

        There is valid reason why some books claimed to contain the truth about Jesus, are not in the Bible. As I explained: Satan wanted to create confusion by trying to add falsehood.

        First: The Old Testament:

        1. Jesus did never quote from the books, that are not in the Bible.

        2. The original books that Jesus was quoting from were all written in Hebrew.

        The New Testament:

        1. The gospel accepted as divinely inspired, are all written down in the same generation as Jesus walked on Earth.

        2. The other books are one of the other, full of errors, that will be exposed by all reading the original Hebrew scriptures.

    1. Dear Abu hafs.

      Shalom.

      Which denomination?

      This question is not Biblical. Because the Bible does not speaks about denominations. Neither does the Koran separate the Sunni Muslims from the Shiits.

      I guess you have no noble motive for asking me this question, so I will leave it not answered. I might change my mind, If I feel the need to know which sect or denomination within Islam you belong to.

      1. shiites came to be because a jew divided the muslims in the 7th century, if you actually look at the shiites practices and beliefs their not that different to traditional judaism aside from the fact that they follow the same books, their beliefs are virtually identical. id guess you already know this since your a jew yourself.

      2. Dear mhus.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        shiites came to be because a jew divided the muslims in the 7th century.

        My reply:

        This is news to me.

        1. Who was this Jew?

        2. Why was “allah” not able to bridge this division, and bring the two main fractions back together again?

        3. When Sunnis kill or cripples Shiites, are they the true followers of Muhammad?

      3. to answer your question:

        The religion of the Shiah was founded by a Jew from Yemen called Abdullah bin Saba’. This religion has started with the assassination of the rightly guided Khalifa Uthman and branched into many sections.

        AND HERES THE LINK:

        http://www.allaahuakbar.net/shiites/history_of_the_shia.htm

        and lastly to answer your question: When Sunnis kill or cripples Shiites, are they the true followers of Muhammad?

        it depends on circumstances of course are you trying to tell me you wouldnt kill a catholic or a jew if he was trying to hurt you or your family ??? if you say you wouldnt your either a liar or a gutless coward and i dont know which is worse to be honest. If someone takes an innocent life on the other had it would be as if he had killed all of mankind, but ive already shown you that quote from the quran

      4. Dear mhus.

        Shalom.

        It is not fair to counter a question with a question. Who are the true followers of Mohammad?

        I have to read your reply, that Sunni Muslims have the right to kill others.

        I have earlier explained that no true followers of Jesus, has the right to harm anyone. Either they are Catholics, Jews or Muslims.

        I hope you can say the same, since you obviously believe you are are true follower of Muhammad.

      5. Dear mhus.

        Shalom.

        You asked a very good question:

        are you trying to tell me you wouldnt kill a catholic or a jew if he was trying to hurt you or your family ??

        My reply:

        If an Islamic suicide bomber was coming to kill me, what to do? I guess I have to be able to run faster than him.

      6. Dear mhus.

        Shalom.

        Let me deepen my answer of killing others.

        Jesus do not give a Christian permission to kill, even not in self defense. To be human, is not to know what we will do in such tragic circumstances. Even I, can not put my hand on my heart, and give you a truthful answer.

      7. where did i say that sunni muslims have a right to kill others ? go to spec savers or learn to read because theres clearly something wrong with you. i said you CANNOT take an innocent life, but at the same time you do have a right to defend yourself. your beginning to sound more and more like a zionist are you sure you believe in jesus ?

      8. Dear ivarfjeld

        I agree with you point on the old testament and Isa (as).

        About the new testamant:

        Taken from “The five Gospels” by the Jesus seminar.

        We do not have origional copies of any of the gospels. We do not possess autographs of any of the books of the entire bible. The oldest surviving copies of the gospels date back from 175 years after the death of Jesus, amd no two copies are precisely alike.

        This gap of almost two centuries means that the origional Greek (or Aramaic) text was copied more than once, by hand before reaching the stage in which it has come down to us.

        the stark truth is that the history of the Greek Gospels, from their creation in the first century, remains largely unknown and therefore unmapped territory.

        Bart Ehrman in “The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture” states.

        In any event none of the origional books of the Bible now survive. What do survive are copies, some 5366 of them in the Greek language alone, that date from the second century down to the 16th. Strikingly, with the exception of the smallest fragments, no two of these copies are exact. No one knows how many different, or variant readings, occur among the surviving witnesses, but they must number in the hundreds of thousands”

        These are christian theologens speaking.

        Lastly the Didicas is considered older than the five Gospels,but left out, written by the family of Isa(as) doesnt mention Isa (as) as god but as “good Servant”

        Gospels of james, family of Isa(as), but left out referred to Isa (as) as master, no mention of divinity.

        Gospel of Jude, family of Isa(as) warn followers of newcomers corrupting the teachings of Isa(as).

        I will cover Errors seperately inshallah.

      9. Dear Abu hafs.

        Shalom, and thanks for being a Bible critic.

        The Dead Sea Scrolls in Khirbet Qumran in Israel contains 900 pages. These manuscripts generally date between 150 B.C and 70 A.C. The verses found her is exact copies of lines found in the oldest kept copy of the New Testament, which is dated to 125 A.D.

        Remember that the best prof of correctness, is not the date of the copy of the New Testament. It is its containment of Jesus quoting correctly from the Old Testament.

        Why are there so less copies of the New Testament, from the Apostolic age?

        There was a death penalty for saying that Jesus was God. There was a price tag on the head of the gospel writers. The few copies that were made in secret, was surely well used.

  87. thanks for proving my point ivarfjeld you didnt give me a single reply to my questions, perhaps your faith isnt as strong as you thought it was, its served my point though you really dont have a clue what your talking about.

    1. Dear mhus.

      Shalom.

      I have for the past 48 hours answered almost 150 questions from Muslims who wants to know more about Jesus. Please remind me what question I have not answered.

  88. ivarfjeld says:
    September 18, 2010 at 12:32 am
    “Dear Likisormala

    Shalom.

    You are always welcome back.

    You wrote:

    Your early priests lead you astray when they made you believe that Jesus was son of Allah

    My comment:

    The problem is, that when Jesus walked on Earth, “allah” was the moon god they worshiped in Mecca. There was no Islam, and no prophet Muhammad.

    Your prophet who brought the World the knowledge of “allah” was born 600 years after Jesus. So how could we have been lead astray?

    Jesus said He came as a servant of God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel. The Messiah never spoke about Mecca, the moon god, or an Arab prophet that would bring in a totally new book that would contradict the Bible.”

    Errrrr actually Islam is the religion of prophet Abraham p.b.u.h who coincidentely was in arabia, hence the black stone, Makkah, and Hajj. wouldnt expect you to know any better though being so ignorant. whoever said “ignorance is bliss” was right ignorace is bliss in this life but it is going to cost you a heavy price in the next. Considering you want to debate the knowledge you have or should i say lack is astounding you dont have the faintest clue about anything other then your so called religion. Whats even more astounding is the fact you claim other religions to be false and yours to be true even though you really dont have the faintest what your babbling on about. it looks like your just randomnly throwing together quotes and praying they make sense and are airtight so not too many questions are asked. And gloria seems to be quoting the same verse over and over which i find pretty hilarious since she seems to be a parrot stuck in a loop. good luck with your debate although you will probably find it more helpful to verify what you want to say beforehand rather then just posting randomn dribble about another religion.

    you didnt answer my question about whether jesus was a jesuit or a christian since you yourself quoted that he was born to a jewish mother, followed jewish tradition etc. doesnt that mean he was a jew ??? surely that debunks christianity ? or maybe god perfected his religion in stages judaism -> christianity -> islam, sounds more logical since there is no other reason i can think of for jesus p.b.u.h to just get up and say were not jewish anymore were christian. i had more questions but that would require me scrolling through all the posts and copying and pasting them again i really cant be bothered.

    1. Dear mhus.

      Shalom.

      Thanks for reminding me about questions I have forgotten to answer.

      Your question:

      you didnt answer my question about whether jesus was a jesuit or a christian since you yourself quoted that he was born to a jewish mother, followed jewish tradition etc. doesnt that mean he was a jew ???

      My reply:

      Jesus was a Jew. He was born by a Torah Observant Jew, who lived 600 years before Muhammad. She never had the chance to read the Koran, but obeyed God of Jacob, the father of the 12 tribes of Israel, who gave them the Hebrew Bible.

      In regards to “Jesuits” this order of priests is an invention of the Roman Catholic religion. I do not agree with this religion. The followers of the Pope do have a copy of Jesus in their traditions, but this is a false Messiah.

  89. ermmmmm a jesuit is another word for a jew what “priests” are you talking about now. and i asked because jesus p.b.u.h was a jew does that invalidate christianity since your own messiah followed judaism ?

    1. Dear mhus.

      So a Sunni who kill an innocent Shiith will not be a true follower of Muhammad?

      When is a Shiith guilty of not obeying the Koran, so you have the right to kill him?

      If He blow up the Mosque you are attending, will that give you a right to blow up a Shiith Mosque?

      What about killing such a person?

      1. again where did i state that ? that was a general rule for mankind i didnt say anything about sunni shia etc. etc. and no of course you dont have a right to kill a shiite if he doesnt believe in the quran thats simply his belief all you can do is help to try and steer him in the right direction and pray for him. and as for the blowing the mosque thing up: 2 rights dont make a wrong, your talking that biblical crap of eye for an eye. Our prophet p.b.u.h said its better to forgive and let live, because at the end of the day were asking Allah for forgiveness aswell arent we ?

        and stop being such a pretentious little snoot youve avoided the same question about 4 times now ill repeat it AGAIN. you yourself stated in your own words that jesus p.b.u.h was a jew, so doesnt that invalidate your beloved christianity since your own messiah/god followed judaism a totally seperate religion from yours?

      2. Dear mhus.

        Shalom.

        I do accept your statement that a Sunni or a Shiith has no right to kill each other. But the Koran explains to us that some people are going to be crippled and killed?

        Who are these people, that Muhammad wants faithful followers to kill?

      3. Dear mhus.

        Shalom, and thanks for another good question.

        You wrote:

        your own messiah/god followed judaism a totally seperate religion from yours?

        My reply:

        Can a three grow without roots?

        Without Judaism, there would be no Christianity. Everything about true Christianity is Jewish. You might be aware that there are many Jews who believe Jesus is the Messiah. They are called Messianic Jews.

      4. like i said before time and time again its now getting tiresome the quran is talking about events from the past and the future, it gives you an insight of what to expect and how previous events occurred, its also the direct word of god as opposed to the bible which is written from the 3rd person perspective. simply put the words in the quran are the word of god not muhammad p.b.u.h, everytime i explain that to you, you just ask me again somewhere down the line. seems to me i would have more luck talking to a brick wall. and where does it exactly state that thou shalt kill ??? nowhere exactly your a complete muppet and youve proven this time again and again.

        P.S you still didnt answer my question about the validity of christianity, i already showed you that jesus p.b.u.h was a jew according to you so where the hell did christianity derive from if your lord was following a completely different religion ?

  90. Dear ivarfjeld

    You said Allah was a moon God? You should look into this my friend.

    “Among His Signs are the Night and the Day, and the Sun and the Moon. Adore not the sun and the moon, but adore God, Who created them, if it is Him ye wish to serve. (The Noble Quran, 41:37)”

    dont worship the moon!

    The Aramaic “Elaw” and the Arabic “Allah” are the same. The Aramaic “Elaw” is derived from the Arabic “Allah”, and it means “GOD”. “Allah” in Arabic also means “GOD”, the Supreme GOD Almighty. You can easily see the close similarity in their pronunciation.

    please read further here:

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/allah3.htm

  91. “Woe to those who write the “scripture” with their own hands, then say “this is from Allah”, in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their own hands have written and woe to them for what they earn” Quran,Baqarah:79

    “How can you say, “We are wise, we have the law of the Lord”, when scribes with their lying pens have falsified it? The wise are put to shame; they are dismayed and entrapped. They have spurned the word of the Lord, so what sort of wisdom is theirs?” Jeremiah 8:8

    Frederic Kenyon in “Our bible and the ancient manuscripts” says aftyer listing many contradictions in the bible, ” Besides the larger discrepancies, such as these contradictions, there is scarcely a verse in which there is not some variation of phrase in some copies (of ancient manuscripts from which the Bible has been collected). No one can say that those additions or omissions or alterations are matters of mere indifference”

    Again this is a christian Theologian speaking and I could give more.

  92. Dear ivar you are a Zionist, the very fact that the illegitimate state of Israel is only in existent because people like agree in the cold blooded murder of women and children shows wat you are really about!!! It’s pointless discussing quotes, because your blinded to the facts, may Allah all guide us to the righteous path Ameen

  93. Dear ivarfjeld

    Looking at the rest of your website it seems you have a problems with Islam partly based on your political world view towards the middle east and Isreal.

    We believe in pre-destination, meaning that events are written and what ever is prophesised will take place whether we try to stop it or not. That means the date for the second coming of Isa (as) is set and cannot be moved forward and backward. So by supporting Isreal you are not making sure that this event will happen, it will happen anyway even if all support for Isreal was taken away.

    Do you really believe that supporting Isreal is supporting the second coming and the rapture?

  94. dear abu hafs in case you havent realised by now this guy is a zionist possibly even a jew, hes shown that time and time again with his lack of knowledge and repetitive quotes. why try and explain something to him that surpasses his brain capacity ? its pointless.

    1. Assalamu alaikum

      “Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious.” Noble Qur’ân 16:125

      Theres a person on you tube who spent hours ridiculing Islam and later became Muslim.

      Its Allah who decides if its pointless.

      wassalam

    2. Your like a thief @Ivarjfeld. You totally stole Ivar’s name. When Jesus says things like “why do you not understand me”!! Why do you not hear my word?? Because your father is Satan. He was a murderer a liar and a thief from the beginning. You stole Ivar’s name Like Muslims stole the scriptures to make it their own and call themselves the chosen ones, deleting anything to the contrary. I hear a lot of people say that only 144,000 will be saved. That’s not correct. If you read more in the same passage their are countless numbers of people saved. Those in white who stand around the throne of God, worshipping him for eternity. That has to be better than it sounds, so I think trust and faith come into play there. Note that it says standing and worshipping, not butts in the air worshipping like the muslims do. 144,000 are of the jews, from the twelve tribes who will be leaders of nations.

      1. what a complete neanderthal you are ed. Try reading the name phonetically its AT “@” IVARJFELD, idiot.

        you said: Note that it says standing and worshipping, not butts in the air worshipping like the muslims do.

        i say: ermmmm their butts arent in the air are you as blind as you are dumb ? secondly muslims stand and pray too they just prostrate and bow down to their lord, but i guess you christians are too good to get down on your knees for your lordand beg for forgiveness right ? ironically though you dont mind doing it for a woman though. i’d go on but ive just debunked your whole theory and made you look like a complete fuckwit already so ill stop there.

  95. Dear Iverfjeld

    Mhus is right, there is no killing of shias by sunnis sanctioned in the Quran. You have been misinformed or are misinterpreting.

    Historically any fighting that took place by either side was political not religious, from a sunni perspective anyway. Neither have the sunni scholars historically considered shias as disbelievers.

    1. he already knows that, he just cant seem to answer certain questions so he keeps circling back to his previous theories and claims like a good zionist would do.

    2. Dear Abu Hafs.

      Shalom.

      You wrote:

      Mhus is right, there is no killing of shias by sunnis sanctioned in the Quran. You have been misinformed or are misinterpreting.

      My reply:

      For all non Muslims, it is difficult to understand how people killing shouting “Allah is Great” should not be branded as followers of Islam.

      I guess that Muhammad him self demanded true Muslims to kill people who did not want to believe is his message.

      Please explain to me who it is Muhammad wants his followers to cripple and kill.

      [Sura 5:33]
      «The just retribution for those who fight God (Allah) and His messenger (Muhammad), and commit horrendous crimes, is to be killed, or crucified, or to have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or to be banished from the land. This is to humiliate them in this life, then they suffer a far worse retribution in the Hereafter».

      1. yes your right in the same way its difficult for us to understand how you can say your religion is of peace blah blah but the guys at the top “the popes” 80 of which responsible for over 50 millions deaths. you say your a christian and that catholics are devil worshippers and you dont believe in the pope etc., excuse me but arent catholics one of THE if not THE largest sect of christianity ? hypocrisy at its finest again.

      2. Dear mhus.

        Shalom, and thanks for giving me a chance to explain the difference between a Catholic and a follower of Jesus.

        1. A Catholic believe that the Pope is “The Holy Father”, a man that is infallible in questions of moral and true understanding of who God is. A Christian believe that all human beings are sinners, that will commit such mistakes.

        2. A Catholic believe that the mother of Jesus was born without sin, lived a sinless life, and ascended into Heaven in body and soul. Catholics pray to the mother of Jesus. A Christian believe even the mother of Jesus was a human, born with sin, and was a sinner like all created beings. A Christian will only pray in the name of Jesus.

        4. A Catholic will believe the doctrines taught by the Pope in Rome. A Christian will believe in the Word of God, as it is written in the Bible.

        I can give you more examples, if anyone is interested.

      3. In this verse Allah is talking in the context of law. The person may be a muslim or a non muslim. Whoever commits crimes in the lands, then this is there punishment. So if someone commits murder for example.

      4. you wrote:
        For all non Muslims, it is difficult to understand how people killing shouting “Allah is Great” should not be branded as followers of Islam.

        i asked:
        in the same way explain how other people of the world i.e non-christian differentiate between a catholic and a christian. cathlocism is a SECT of christianity its a part of it whether you like to admit it or not, and as stated earlier its probably the largest sect of christianity. ok so with this in mind look at the 50 million people YOUR pope has killed in the name of god, look at the crusades which YOUR pope carried out in the name of god, the spanish inquisition, so on and so forth. Seems to me you lot are nothing more then a bunch of worthless fascists with more power then sense. in the same way you stereotype our radicals as being mainstream muslim its quite easy for us to do the same surely ? to the average person a christian is a christian not catholic or protestant etc. just as in islam an outsider would call you a muslim not a shiite or sunni etc. basically the point i am trying get across to your thick devious skull is this: you paint yourself to be some sort of saints but the truth is there has probably never been a more tyrannical or backward religion then christianity!!!

      5. Dear mhus.

        Shalom.

        I have explained to you, that no true follower of Jesus can harm anyone. Why can you not explain to me that a true follower of Muhammad can not harm anyone?

        I guess, because that is not what Muhammad taught. He told people who want to be correct Muslims to cripple and kill people who did not accept his message, and refused to call “allah” a true god.

  96. This is absolutely funny . you backwards Christians trying to tell me about my religion ! Anyways Jesus will be coming VERY soon and when he does he will fight for those who believe in Allah (SWT) and the oneness of Allah alone . confused ppl . How is Jesus your GOD if he came as a human ?? and died ?? first you pray to GOD than to JESUS. Us Muslims don’t associate any partners with Allah and it’s funny how your scripture is technically re same as ours but when because we follow our book and we are steadfast on it you like to take quotes just because you guys don’t care about your book and we do doesn’t mean you can go on and pick uo random quotes that you took COMPLETLY out of context into your meaningless works. Islam is the religion. We are the chosen people. We will dominate this world when Jesus comes for US. so keep sinning Nd thinking you will be forgiven just like that . And we will get the last laugh . HAH ! Islam the fastest growing religion say all you want but I don’t care about a guy who converted to christanity ! at the end of the day We are a close Muslim family we see eachother in the streets we give Salam all you ppl give is dirty looks . NEVER will I be Christian . EVER .

    1. Dear Saraa

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      You asked:

      How is Jesus your GOD if he came as a human ?? and died ??

      My reply:

      Jesus died for your sins, so that you will be justified when you shall met God your Father in Heaven. The good news is that Jesus rose from the grave after three days. The risen God the Son appeared in front of 500 Jews, alive for ever more. He is soon coming back to collect all who believe in Him, and take us with Him to the Kingdom of Heaven.

      1. you said he appeared in front of 500 jews, arent the jews the ones that shunned him and left him to die ? a jew would sell his own mother for loaf of bread so it doesnt matter if there was a thousand of them, id never take their word for it.

  97. Dear Iverfjeld

    Sorry I missed you comment on the Dead sea scrolls. Cant reply to it directly.

    The dead sea scroll were a great find for Old testamant scholars. There was a claim that a fragment of Marks Gospel was there but these claims have been rejected by New Testament scholars. So can you tell me which Gospels exactly were found there in?

    1. Followup to the dead sea scroll. I am not a bible critic as such. We Muslims believe in the Injeel (bible) as a revelation from Allah but the bible in its current form has issue due to the way it was formulated and translated. We cannot discount any verse in the Bible till we see its context and check it according to the Quran which contains some of the Injeel. And also according to the Old testamant which no where even considers the possibility of Allah physically coming into his creation on earth. This is why the Jews do not consider the Christians as being pure monotheists.

      Listen to Yusuf Estes who was a Christian preacher in the US.
      link;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4PNdiyA5m8&feature=related

  98. by the way on the topic of “jihad” the word actually means to struggle or strive. heres the dictionary meaning:

    the personal struggle of the individual believer against evil and persecution

    but again some twisted morons deliberately took it out of context and spread it through the mass media like wildfire. why do you fear what you dont believe ? because your afraid its the truth………………………………………………….

    1. Dear mhus.

      Shalom.

      I did not ask for an explanation of the word Jihad. I asked you to explain this verse from the Koran.

      [Sura 5:33]
      «The just retribution for those who fight God (Allah) and His messenger (Muhammad), and commit horrendous crimes, is to be killed, or crucified, or to have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or to be banished from the land. This is to humiliate them in this life, then they suffer a far worse retribution in the Hereafter».

      1. yes and ive already explained that to you yesterday didnt it ? did you read the ayahs above and below it ? of course you did your just trying to be a smart arse as always and circle back to the moot points which have already been dealt with. here though ill post it again just to put your mind at rest for another 24 hours.

        31 Then Allah sent a raven scratching up the ground, to show him how to hide his brother’s naked corpse. He said: Woe unto me! Am I not able to be as this raven and so hide my brother’s naked corpse ? And he became repentant.

        32 For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah’s Sovereignty), but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth.

        33 The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;

        34 Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

        basically you’ll get your just deserts from the lord himself fear not.

        and heres the link to the whole surah and the whole quran in english AGAIN:

        http://www.sacred-texts.com//isl/pick/005.htm

      2. Dear Mhus.

        Shalom, and thanks for explaining Sura 5:33. I understand, that I have to read verse 32 in context:

        32 For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind.

        So it is the Jews, that Muhammad wants his followers to kill and cripple?

      3. Dear all followers of Muhammad.

        Shalom.

        I feel that this debate again is resulting in insults. Such comments will not take us anywhere. I am about to close down this debate.

        I thank you all for all kinds of comments. I feel we all have contributed to make all readers see the difference between Muhammad and Jesus. Let us all chose wisely who we want to trust and obey.

      4. or wait mhmm maybe just MAYBE thats the part that says: we told the people of israel that whoever kills another innocent human (i.e murderer or corrupter) it will be as if they had killed the whole of mankind. seriously go back to hebrew school and ask for your money back they clearly didnt teach you to read and understand ENGLISH very well.

  99. Dear readers and active posters of this page,

    I like to first start with by telling ivarfjeld to please don’t welcome me and shalom me because I have already welcomed myself on your page and that is why I am writing my comment. Secondly, please stop quoting the same thing over and over from the Bible.

    I’m a historian, and religion is where I put most of my time and concentration on. I was born as a Catholic, and converted into Islam. I always knew that Vatican is full of corruption so just like the many of you I just chose to believe ONLY in the Bible and not what Vatican says is right or wrong. My whole entire generation Catholic, except me. My wife is also a Christian, but it is our mutual agreement that we will never get on the way of each other’s religion and gave my kids the option to follow whatever religion they want to and when they grow up, I want them to do their research and choose the right religion.

    The Quran, as many of you Christians say “the book of devil” is actually the only Holy Book out there that from the beginning of its time stayed the same. However, the Bible on the other hand changed many times because of what people wanted to pass on to the next generations, and what PEOPLE themselves believed should be passed on and shouldn’t be. I always believed in Jesus and God being ONE and the HOLY SPIRIT, but it makes no sense to me that why isn’t Jesus immortal? The Muslims, just like the Christians also believe that Jesus will come back to earth before the destruction. However, the Jews don’t believe that.

    Not look at this, the Jews don’t recognize Jesus as anything but devil. the Christians on the other hand recognizes all Jewish Prophets and then declared Jesus to be Son of God, and doesn’t recognize Muhammed as anything except devil. However, the Muslims recognizes all the people of Judaism, Christianity as Prophets and Muhammed being the last one. These are basic knowledge that you ignorant people should all know if you did get your self an education.

    To the people that are posting videos from youtube, anyone can make a youtube video professionally and edit it and put it up on youtube to put out their own point of view, for example, a muslim Imam converting to Christianity or a Christian Priest converting to Islam. But how much of those video are truth do we know? So please stop wasting your precious time youtube-ing nonsense videos which for sure will not change anyone’s mind.

    When I really look into the Bible over and over and over and studied every bit of it just like I have done with the Quran, it is clear that those are the thing that Jesus never said. It’s what the people AFTER Jesus said. The old testament talked about Jesus. And the muslims also believe that because the Muslims recognizes that. However, what Peter said is a question of fact or falsification because Peter is not Jesus to know what Jesus said. Secondly, the Bible was WRITTEN by human, and they are MEN’s words, which is also a question of whether if those words, except for the ones from the Old Testament, are individual opinion or actual Jesus’s words because Jesus was not there when the Bible was adopted. So the adoption of Bible, since it took place after the death of Jesus, is a question of whether it is misleading people with individual’s words or not.

    Now to the Muslims, why do you guys wasting your time arguing with people who just are so narrow minded? They talk about Muslims being corrupted and all, but I do not understand why they totally forgot about Christians being corrupted for centuries during Medieval time and chose to conquer lands by threatening people with religion fear. Can they prove that fact to be wrong? So there we can see that the Christians are the ones that were corrupted for many years and chose to use the Bible to fear people and rule lands. And those who killed to rule these lands were forgiven by the Priest, or Prior, or Lord Bishop, or the Cardinal. Who are they to forgive? Forgiveness comes from God, and we do not know whether if we are forgiven or not until our death. BRAINWASHED!

    So stop arguing with these imbeciles, because as a former Christian and Catholic, I know how the narrow minded Christians can do nothing but just scream out the words “Jesus is the answer” when they should actually say “God is the answer”

    Ivarfjeld, keep your narrow mind to your self and don’t need to waste your time on me by replying to me with your friendly greetings because the only thing you can do is “repeat” yourself from what you’ve been saying for the past 24 hours and still nothing different.

    Thank you for reading my long comment. God Bless you all

    1. Dear Juan Sanchez Hassan.

      Greetings of peace, in the name of Jesus.

      You wrote:

      The Muslims, just like the Christians also believe that Jesus will come back to earth before the destruction. However, the Jews don’t believe that.

      My reply:

      The Jews believe equally that the Messiah will come. 300.000 Jews in the US, are Messianic Jews. They believe that Jesus is the Messiah, and that it is Jesus who is coming back. We do not know how many Jews inside Israel are Messianic. But there are many Jews who in our days turning positive to the truth about Jesus loving the Jewish people.

      In regards to false Christianity, I agree with you that the Vatican represent a corrupt and worldly religious and political system. I have just explained that the Catholic religion is a perversion of the true faith in Jesus of Nazareth.

      As a Catholic that has converted to Islam, you should take the Koran seriously. There are more than 140 verses that promotes violence. I guess the Koran was also written by men. So I do not understand why you are attacking the Bible.

      Even you have to admit that the teachings of Jesus is correct. His message of love, and His instruction to his followers not to harm anyone. That man has misused His name, does not make the teachings of Jesus null and void. He is the truth, and if we follow Him we will be saved by Him.

      1. Dear Ivar

        When you say promoting violence. The Bible can also be accused of this:

        the LORD Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys. (1st Sam 15:2-3)
        Exodus 21:23-25

        But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.

        Exodus 22:2
        If a thief is caught breaking in and is struck so that he dies, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed.

        Do not allow a sorceress to live. Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death. Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed.

        Exodus 31:15
        For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must be put to death.

        Exodus 32:27-28,35
        Then he said to them, “This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: `Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.’ The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died … And the LORD struck the people with a plague because of what they did with the calf Aaron had made.

        I could go on. If you say that this is the Old testamant and that Isa (as) never condoned violence you cannot as the Bible quotes Isa (as) as stictly upholding the law to which the above verses apply.

        Also the God you belive in is the same God of the Old Testamant so your idea that God does not sanction violence is wrong.

      2. Dear Abu hafs.

        Shalom.

        It is true that God of Israel told the Jews to protect them selves against their enemies. They were a small people of 12 tribes, and God wanted to build a great nation out of them. He did. The Jewish Kingdom of David and Solomon is among the greatest that have ever been seen on Planet Earth.

        The Law of Moses was the very education of the Jewish people. It preserved them, so the Jewish nation could bring us the Messiah.

        When Jesus walked on Earth, He did renounce violence. The Jewish nation was already there, and Jesus spoke against capital punishment. A lady that was caught in adultery was not stoned. Jesus asked a simple question: The one who is without sin, can throw the first stone.

        I guess this example and His instruction is still valid.

  100. juan sanches hassan what a legend, i was beginning to think i was the only one pointing out the fact that this imbecile or should i say these imbeciles are consistently just repeating themselves over and over again, they dont have an answer to certain questions because there is no answer that wouldnt portray them or their religion in a bad light. instead they beat around the bush quoting the same passages over and over again. the only reason i am even bothering to reply to them is in the hope that maybe even one lost soul who wanders onto this site will read and think and join the correct path. That point aside i agree i really am wasting my time preaching to a bunch of brainwashed idiots.

    1. Dear mhus.

      Shalom.

      I can not agree with you, that I have quoted the same Bible verses again and again.

      Let me give you some other verses, that exposes that people who do not believe that the blood of Jesus is the only remedy that can cleanse us from sins, are living in darkness.

      John 3:19
      This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

      John 8:12
      When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

      1. if jesus p.b.u.h died over 2000 years ago how the f*** is his blood going to cleanse your soul 2000 years later ???? have you got it stored in some top secret ultra well guarded 2 millenia old blood bank that you can just nip into and pull out whenever you a need a bit of the good ol’ cleanse ?

  101. To Juan Sanchez Hassan :

    Salam Brother Hasan,

    I did try my best with giving bybelic quote and referencing quran to make him understand. But he is repeting same thing again and again. Then I gave up. Thanks for your intervene.

    Bye all from this long debate. Actually we muslim has wasted our time to make understand some ignorant people.
    Hope Allah will give them ability to read the QURAN and understand the reality.Otherwise La Kum din a kum olaiadin. Amin

    1. Assalamu alaikum fellow Muslims

      Our aim should be to give the message only and leave the rest to Allah as it is Allah who guides. We havent wasted our time as you do not know how many other viewer are reading all the information we are putting up and if Iver will later consider what has been said. The best we can do is not to become angry or frustrated, use bad language as this is not what Islam teaches us.

      wassalam

      1. Dear abu hafs.

        Shalom.

        I want to thank you for your fine art of debating. I feel you are a true Muslim. I want to say from the deepest of my heart. I pray Jesus will come to you in visions and dreams this very night, and tell you that all I have told you about Him, is the truth. Amen.

    1. Dear Wow.

      Shalom.

      You wrote:

      Dear Ivar have signed off for today.

      My reply:

      I have warned readers not to insult each other. When the debate gets over heated, its better to let hot heads cool down for some time.

  102. me and my friends (mixed group of 2 hindus,3 muslims,2 jews and a christian) have read all the comments and remarks on this page. but it has come to our attention that gloria and ivarfjeld never answer any qustions posed to them, instead they paste passeges from there bibles. me and my frends have differences regarding faith but we all agree that there is 1 god and profets/messengers were sent to inform/guide people towards the right path. can gloria,ivar or jason answer us this question without pasting scripts from the bible or pussyfooting around the question.Q – if jesus is god? then is mary the mother of god?

    1. Dear Zedz.

      Shalom,

      I am blessed by your group of mixed religious people, reading this blog. I hope and pray that Jesus will bless you all today.

      It is true, that my sister Gloria and I have answered your questions by using verses from the Bible. That is what all true followers of Jesus would do.

      Your questions:

      Q – if jesus is god? then is mary the mother of god?

      My reply:

      How can I answer these two questions, without quoting from the Bible?

      Please give me some good examples.

      1. Dear Zedz.

        Shalom, and thanks for your comment.

        I guess you have nothing more to say about how you will defend your self against a Cobra, holding only a knife in your hand?

        You have jumped to another topic, without answering. I await your answer.

      2. Jesus was called both Son of God and Son of man. Mary was the mother of flesh, God was the father of God. When God created the first man he did not use a mother. He moulded him out of dirt and breathed life into him. The first woman did not have a mother, she was taken out of the first man. Only after they sinned (disobeyed God) did they recieve the curse of death which requires new births else we would die out.
        God came from God, flesh came from flesh.

      3. My dear friend Zedz.

        Shalom.

        You have still not answered my question: Is a Muslim willing to face a Cobra with a knife in his hand, or would it be wiser as Jesus said to bring a sword along the road?

        You asked me if God has a mother. Unlike you, I will answer your question.

        No.

        So, please answer my question?

        If you do not. I will spam you for your bad behavior. Remember you are a guest on this blog, not the owner of this house.

      1. Mary was the mother of Jesus. Not to say God couldn’t have created him without a mother but he did it that way. God created the world for his own pleasure. He can do things any way he wants to. As a human your job is to say thank you for all the wonderful things he has given you and not ask stupid questions that piss him off.

  103. @Gloria
    This is respond to you as you are claiming you knew Bible go back and read it well, if you are clearly understanding what your book said you would have know how to talk. The whole religions on earth did not order to insult people’s religion rather to guide them. Do you think the way you are responding to Islam will make people to understand you? Never.

    PREPARATION FOR JIHAAD IN THE BIBLE

    Each and every holy prophets prepared for defensive not offensive the, Qur’anic verses that you qoute ask the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to take defence if unblievers attacked him like what Jesus (pbuh) did. Jesus will not be a sitting-duck for a clandestine arrest by the Jews. He prepares his disciples for the impending showdown. Discreetly, so as not to frighten his disciples, he introduces the subject of defence. Gently he begins:

    “When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye anything?” And they said, “Nothing.” Then said he unto them, “But now, he that hath no purse, let him take it, and likewise his bag; and he that hath no SWORD, let him sell his garment and buy one!” (Luke 22:35-36)

    This is a preparation for Jihaad, a Holy War in your bible, it means that acording to your book that you should sell your properties and buy weapons to fight. Did he Jesus (AS) not advise them to “turn the other cheek”; “to forgive seventy times seven” (70 x 7 = 490)? Did he not send his chosen Twelve with the advice:

    “Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves; be ye, therefore, as wise as serpents, (?) and as harmless as doves.”
    (Matthew 10:16)

    So the situation and the circumstance have changed and as with any wise and able general, the strategy must also change. The disciples were already armed. They had some foresight. They had not left Galilee with bare knuckles. They responded:

    “. . . Lord, behold, here are two SWORDS.” And he said unto them, “It is
    enough”. (Luke 22:38)

    This showsthat they possessed the weapons to defend or reterlite to unblievers of that time. Althought he missionary, so as to retain the impression of the “meek and gentle Jesus”, “the Prince of Peace”, pleads that the SWORDS were spiritual!
    So if the swords were spiritual, then the “garments” must also be spiritual. If the disciples of Jesus were to sell their SPIRITUAL garments to buy SPIRITUAL swords, in that case they would all become SPIRITUALLY naked! Furthermore, one does not lop off peoples physical ears with spiritual swords, Bibble says

    “And, behold, one of those who were with Jesus stretched out his hand,
    and drew his SWORD, and struck a servant of the high priest’s, and cut
    off his ear.” (Matthew 26:51)

    The only purpose of swords or guns is to maim and to kill. People did not carry swords to prepare apples and bananas in the time of Christ. My dear brothers in humanity dont fool yourselves you better read and understand your Book, we Musilim are highly respecting Jesus (pbuh) we will never mention the name Jesus (pbuh) son of Mary (AS) with out saying Peace and blessing be upon Him that is PBUH in brace, and Mary too without saying Peace be Upon her.
    Why you people are not doing thesame to our Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) while your book said about Prophet Muhammad?. so I dont hv much time bcos I have seriess of exams this week but Insha Allah I will show you who is Muhammad (pbuh) in your book and you are not practicing the teaching of Juses becos you are not praying the way he prayed but we muslims are prayed in the same manner with Jesus it is there in your book, so that you may understand and follow true religion which is Islam. The religion that Jesus odered you to follow after Him.
    Bissalam My regard to ALL.

    1. Dear Elhussen.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      You wrote:

      “But now, he that hath no purse, let him take it, and likewise his bag; and he that hath no SWORD, let him sell his garment and buy one!