Faith in Jesus and Islam are two poles apart

Vice-President Inger Lise Hansen in the Christian Peoples Party of Norway wants to change the party to attract more Muslim voters.

Inger Lise Hansen is a confused Christian, with limited understanding of Islam.

The festival of Easter defines true Christianity, and set visual borders towards all other faiths. The Gospel explains that Jesus has died on the cross in my place, and was raised from the dead for my justification.

Jesus died to pay the price for my sins, and offered Him self as the perfect atonement for my sins. Jesus became the passover Lamb of God. His blood have been shared as the only atoning sacrifice that can save a soul from everlasting fire in Hell.

There is nothing like this message in any other religion. Islam as an example, takes this Biblical truth head on, and rejects that God has a divine Son, God King Messiah.

Every religion has two sides. One is our relation to death and eternity. The other is views on how to best organize our life on Earth, as members of society, cultures and communities. The teaching of Jesus explains that what we do on Earth will have consequences for eternity. Also in regards to this issue, Christianity and Islam are oceans apart.

The Vice President of the Christian Peoples Party in Norway wants to abolish their leaders membership oath of faithfulness to Jesus, to get more Muslims to vote for the party. With this message she has explained her ideology: «There are many things Muslims and Christians agree up on».

This is a deception. There is hardly anything Islam and Biblical Christianity agree up on, besides a ban on gay marriage and promotion of the family as the basic cell for civilized society. But even inside the «family politics» of Islam, there is enough stuff to contradict both Humanism and Christianity. Like view of women, circumcision of girls, forced child marriages, and polygamy.

Islamic sharia laws and political Christianity has also nothing in common. The values that we build our societies on are radical opposites. If the Christian Peoples party of Norway opens up for Islam, the party will change its nature. It will no longer be a Christian alternative.

Frankly, today there is no law that stops Muslims, Hindus and even Atheists from voting for a Christian party. People of all faiths are free to use their ticket to support politicians who wants fundamental Christian values to be safeguarded in our society.

Source: Editorial in the Norwewgian Christian Daily,DagenMagazinet.

22 thoughts on “Faith in Jesus and Islam are two poles apart

  1. Confusion is Not of God but of the Devil.

    Inger Lise Hansen sure is a confused woman she doesn’t know the difference between Christianity and Islam/Catholicism which is White and Black or Light and Darkness that can never mixed. This kind of confusion is a virus that spreads quickly and leads to destruction of the soul.

    She needs to detox her brain with the Word of God right from Genesis to Revelation. God help her!!

    1. Dear Bethany.

      Shalom.

      Let med add some important information. Inger Lise Hansen is not a Lutheran, as expected being a Christian leader in Norway. She is a member of the largest Pentecostal Church in Norway.

      1. What is not well understood is that Muslims revere Jesus as one of God’s greatest messengers to mankind. Disrespect toward Jesus, as we have seen all too often in our society, is very offensive to Muslims.

        Verses in the Koran state that Jesus was strengthened with the “Holy Spirit” (Qur’an 2:87) and is a “sign for the whole world”(Qur’an 21:91). His virgin birth was confirmed when Mary is quoted as asking: “How can I have a son when no man has ever touched me?” (Qur’an 3:47)

        Read more at http://moraloutrage.wordpress.com/2010/09/05/what-islam-teaches-about-jesus-christ/

      2. Dear Moral outrage

        Shalom, and welcome to this site.

        I had the pleasure this Ramadan to lead a Muslim lady to faith in Jesus, God the Son. She had been beaten by her father. I know that many Muslims feel Jesus is a great prophet. But He is much more than that. He is the only one who has paid in full for our sins. By his blood we have been redeemed from the fire of Hell. Give your life to the Jewish Messiah. He will save you. Amen.

  2. Christians and Muslims are afraid to examine their Scripture for the truth about the Messiah and they both follow tradition rather than their respective Scripture when having to face their differences in the name of the Messiah and whether he was crucified or not.
    Muslims accept the confirmation of the Quran that the Messiah was not crucified but they reject the confirmation of the same Quran that the Messiah’s name was Isa and not Jesus and so they falsely preach a prophet Jesus of Islam.
    Christians reject Islam’s view on the crucifixion but they seem to accept that Jesus was a prophet of Islam who is not considered by the Muslims to be the son of God.
    The Quran is quite clear about the Messiah and the Bible actually agrees with the Quran that there was a hoax to the crucifixion and also a hoax to the name Jesus as applied to the Biblical Christ, but Muslims and Christians are extremely fearful about opening the Scriptures to see this agreement as it exposes the both sides of being astray from the Scriptures and from the truth.
    The Age Of Reason by M A Raheem and Mervyn C Charles examines the Scriptures and arrives at proof of the truth of the hoax of the name of Jesus and the crucifixion but Muslims and Christians turn away from being faced with the reality.
    The Quran puts its confirmation in the words of the translation as, “That they said, we killed the Messiah Isa, the son of Mariam, the Apostle of Allah, but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for a surety they killed him not” Quran 4:157

    To say that Jesus was crucified would be wholly true according to the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John of the New Testament of the Bible, and this would depend on the true identity of Jesus.
    To say that the Messiah or Christ was crucified would definitely be false and misleading and contrary to the claim of the Quran, and the evidence of Scripture as contained in the Bible.
    The name of Jesus is a New Testament name that is nowhere to be found in the Old Testament, so that the Old Testament of the Bible disagrees with, or, it cannot be said to be in total agreement with this name that is used to identify the Messiah in the New Testament, but the Quran confirms the Hoax of the crucifixion and the Bible reveals the intricacies of the Hoax for all who wish to see truth.
    The Quran never uses the false name of Jesus and, try as you can; there is no way that Isa can be turned into Jesus, nor can you force Allah to say what He did not.
    The four Gospels are the claimants of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, and they are the Gospels of the crucifixion by four, that is to say, that they are used in repetition of the alleged crucifixion, but they are certainly not the Gospels of the fulfillment of the prophecy of the child as named in the prophecy and command of the Lord God of Israel of the Book of Isaiah (Isaiah 7:14) of the Old Testament of the Bible.
    Two of the four Gospels (Matthew and Luke) make mention of the naming of the infant Messiah with the name of Jesus, which name defies the prophecy and command of the Lord God of Israel. (Isaiah 7:14)
    Jesus of the Gospels replaces Immanuel (Isaiah 7:14), which is referred to as Emmanuel (Matthew1: 23). This represents an annulment of the command of the Lord, by an angel of the Lord, after the child was conceived in the mother’s womb (Matthew 1:20-21).
    Matthew attempts to justify this annulment of the command of the Lord as a fulfillment of the prophecy as “spoken” by the prophet (Matthew 1:22), but the prophecy is again altered, with the authority for naming the child being shifted from the virgin to “they,” whoever they may be.
    The prophecy and command of the Lord, was one of conception without a father, “a virgin shall conceive” (Isaiah 7:14), which is repeated in Matthew’s reference, with what seems to be a slight twist to the original prophecy, becoming The prophecy and command of the Lord, was one of conception without a father, “a virgin shall conceive” (Isaiah 7:14), which is repeated in Matthew’s reference, with what seems to be a slight twist to the original prophecy, becoming, “a virgin shall be with child.” (Matthew 1: 23)
    Luke reports that an Angel of God, Gabriel by name, appears to the virgin before conception (Luke 1:26-31), which would be before Matthew’s angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph “in a dream,” after conception. (Matthew1: 20)
    Luke appears to be reading his command to the virgin from the prophecy of Isaiah (Isaiah 7:14) as he states, “And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.” (Luke 1:31) Here, Luke agrees with the earlier prophecy that the virgin shall name the son, with the exception and/or alteration of Immanuel, (Isaiah 7:14) and/or Emmanuel. (Matthew 1:23) with the insertion of JESUS.
    Luke goes one step further and reports the naming of the child eight days after his birth, at his circumcision, at which time, “his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.” (Luke 2:21)
    Luke comes after the duplicated crucifixion of Jesus in the Gospels of Matthew and Mark, by which time Matthew has already named the child, who has twice gone through the crucifixion of Jesus King of the Jews.
    Luke introduces a different chronological order of events that does not help to remove uncertainty and confusion, so that the breach of the command of the Lord God of Israel comes from what can be said to be:
    • One or two different angels (the angel is not named in Matthew while Gabriel is the angel of Luke),
    • In two different locations, (to Joseph, after he became conscious of her pregnancy, while he slept, in Matthew, and to Mary, before conception in Luke),
    • On two separate occasions, (which is quite obvious, being before and after conception).
    We are informed by Luke that the mother was aware that “that which was conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost” (Matthew 1: 20), before she conceived and after she “was espoused to a man named Joseph” (Luke 1: 27), and yet Joseph was not considered until after he contemplated putting her away for being unfaithful. This confusion and scandal must be viewed as no more than a sacrilegious distortion of Scripture.
    We have Joseph being authorized to name the child Jesus in Matthew by the angel (Matthew 1:21) to which he complied (Matthew 1: 25). The mother is authorized to name the child Jesus in Luke (Luke 1:31), to which Luke offers no evidence that she did comply. Both Gospels therefore do agree that the virgin was in no way responsible for the alteration of the name of her child nor for the confusion in the naming of the child with an improper name.
    Muslims and Christians conceal their misunderstanding in Yeshua and Joshua as Jesus when Yeshua or Joshua translates Yah or Jah is Salvation.
    The four Gospels also carry the Hoax that far while it is left to the reader to bring the Hoax into the open by bringing the Gospels together into one story and bringing the jigs of the jig-saw puzzle in place to show the chronology of events and the truth of the beautiful planning and the execution of the plan and the two thieves named Jesus.

    1. Dear Mervyn Charles.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      Please write small messages….Because I guess you want people to read them?

      Organize your text with proper space between the topics, and give us a chance to see your points.

      1. Asalaamu alaikum,

        I descended from Portuguese “Jews” who fled persecution and slaughter and my mother spoke of Madeira as their origin but I could only put the pieces together after I became Muslim and after I discovered that my mother’s name was not Mary as she had everyone believe.

        My mother’s name was Mariam by the Baptismal Certificate from the Roman Catholic Church where she was baptised.

        Trinidad never accepted “Jewish” refugees if they did not accept Roman Catholicism so the RC Church robbed me of my roots, which I discovered only after I begged the One True God for Guidance and received Islam by the gift of an English translation of the Quran.

        I have since gone to the Rabbi in my area but I was disappointed with the similarity with Christian worship and this only strengthened my Islam and my belief that prophet Ibrahim was first to call his people “Muslims”.

        I have therefore gone around and found my roots in Islam.

        All Praise is due to Allah.

      2. John 8:24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am [the one I claim to be], you will indeed die in your sins.”

        And Jesus Christ said it in John 10:30 I and the father are one.

  3. Shalom
    Dear Ivar:

    Whatever religious belief or position this lady Inger Lise Hansen has, is besides the point. The problem is Religions. Like millions of people in this world, she is confused and needs to study the truth about God. My point is that God created human beings to have a RELATIONSHIP with HIM whereas RELIGIONS were made by man that have spread conflicts and confusion into the world. There are only TWO DESTINATIONS to after-life that is: HEAVEN and HELL. What we do on earth determines whether we are ASCENDING or DESCENDING.

    Our God is a good God, though He created us, yet He gave us a choice saying: {{Deuteronomy… 30: 15-20, CHOOSE LIFE OR CHOOSE DEATH… }} Besides, when YAHSHUA(JESUS) said: If you want to follow me….. He meant “Follow the TORAH” – to do exactly what HE did – it’s that simple like “monkey see, monkey do”, it’s all ready on the platter, yet Christians find it difficult to do it and they follow in unnecessary different denominations.

    The bottom line: Christianity is becoming apostate day by day as more and more pastors are becoming afraid and leaving their flocks – Christianity itself is become a FARCE. The TORAH IS THE TRUTH, like ISRAEL IT STANDS ALONE, YASHUA(JESUS) IS THE ONLY WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE, TO ACHIEVE OUR HEAVENLY GOAL.
    Hope more Christians and others will realize the TRUTH and cleave to the TORAH. Blessings.

    1. Dear Bethany.

      Shalom.

      You are right, and you are wrong.

      The Torah can not save anyone. Observing the Torah will not make anyone righteous in the sight of God the Father. Man shall live by faith in Jesus the Messiah alone. His blood redeems us. Not the old passover blood. Neither the blood of goats and sheep, nor any good works can save us from our sins. All we do (and tries to do) is like filthy rags in front of Him.

      Only what Jesus have done saves.

      What do Jesus demand from us?

      A simple thing. To believe in Him. That He has fulfilled the law, and that salvation is a matter of mercy and grace. We do not deserve to be saved. Non of us.

      Jesus do demand some action, that will manifest it self from the mouth and hands of a born again person. Like sharing all our properties and money in a bid to save more souls from ending up in Hell, forgiving those who hurt us, feeding the poor, and keep on telling others the truth about His death and resurrection.

      The gates of Hell is wide open. Most of the people on Earth will end up there. Jesus the Messiah said that we have to walk the narrow road, and make it through the narrow gate. Only a few shall find it.

      If you want to be among the few, you need to believe, trust, relay on and obey the Messiah, the King of Kings.

      There is no difference between the Mosaic Covenant, and the New covenant that was added. Salvation has always been a matter of grace. (undeserved kindness from God). The blood of Jesus is the ultimate undeserved kindness from God, that was given us for our justification.

  4. Shalom Ivar;

    Here replying according to your paragraphs:

    You are right, and you are wrong.

     To you I may be wrong but I know I am right because you are in a religion and I am not. First of all when I mentioned TORAH, I meant the WORD of GOD and not just the SCROLL. So this is the definition of the TORAH: The TORAH is the WORD of God.
     {{John: 1.1, In the beginning was the WORD and the WORD was with God and the WORD was God.}}
     This WORD is none other than the MESSIAH(Anointed) YASHUA(Savior), IMMANUEL(God with us), JESUS CHRIST of NAZARETH.
     Deuteronomy 11: 22. For if ye shall diligently keep all these commandments which I command you, to do them, to love the Lord your God, to walk in all his ways, and to CLEAVE unto him;
     My question: Is this just for the Jews or all mankind? Don’t forget that when the Israelites left Egypt, there were thousands of gentiles that left with them {{ EXODUS 12: 38 – And, a mixed multitude also went up with them, along with flocks and herds, a very large number of livestock.}} Every one of them ate unleavened bread. If we do not cleave to the WORD(TORAH)GOD Himself, then we are disobeying Him and disobedience is Rebellion and because of rebellion, Satan was kicked out of heaven and Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden of Eden and a whole lot more..

    The Torah can not save anyone. Observing the Torah will not make anyone righteous in the sight of God the Father. Man shall live by faith in Jesus the Messiah alone. His blood redeems us. Not the old passover blood. Neither the blood of goats and sheep, nor any good works can save us from our sins. All we do (and tries to do) is like filthy rags in front of Him.

     Your response is shocking that the Torah cannot save any one. You mean to say that the WORD of GOD cannot save anyone? Most people take the death and resurrection of Jesus for granted saying; O JESUS died for me so I’m saved, I have FAITH in Jesus. No, No, No, in order to be saved a person has to FOLLOW JESUS by doing everything that HE did, because HE SAID SO. The more we study the Word, the more closer we get to God. Everyone one is a sinner in this world, no one is righteous but we must make every effort to become righteous in the eyes of God and that can be done only by studying the WORD(TORAH) practicing it and applying it to our lives and teaching others to do the same. Those who choose to be Pharisees or hypocrites it is their problem. {{Psalm 119.105 – Your WORD is a lamp unto my feet, a light to my path..}}
    The WORD of God is the Instruction for our lives so we can be with him for eternity after we leave this earth. The old Testament (as Christians call it) was never made obsolete by Jesus. Just like He never said “you can eat pork” Therefore, if you are discarding the very First Passover, I can only feel very sorry for you because you are lacking that in-depth wonderful understanding that is linked to so many occurrences of Biblical History. Easter is pagan(period). This is the difference between studying in the Hebraic perspective and Christian perspective. To prove me wrong ask a Messianic Rabbi who is well versed in Hebrew.

    Only what Jesus have done saves.

     OK, so now we can relax because Jesus took all the beating for us and we will all go to heaven and there’s no need of the TORAH(WORD). Think however you want but without studying the Torah no one will ever know what the death of Jesus and his free offer of SALVATION really means thus hindering their chance of being with Him in Heaven.

    What do Jesus demand from us?

     HE said “FOLLOW ME” {{ Matthew 16:24 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me}} It’s not just helping people materially and feeding them with food, more than that they need the Spiritual Food. I repeat, do everything as He did most importantly feed them the WORD(TORAH) besides, many do not know to read and write so what becomes of them?

    A simple thing. To believe in Him. That He has fulfilled the law, and that salvation is a matter of mercy and grace. We do not deserve to be saved. Non of us.
     I prefer to FOLLOW HIM than just believe in HIM, for many believe in Him but do not Follow Him. You mean if we die in sin it’s OK because He has fulfilled the law and salvation is a matter of mercy and grace? Doesn’t make sense to me.

    Jesus do demand some action, that will manifest it self from the mouth and hands of a born again person. Like sharing all our properties and money in a bid to save more souls from ending up in Hell, forgiving those who hurt us, feeding the poor, and keep on telling others the truth about His death and resurrection.

     Here I’m repeating it again – }} It’s not just clothing and feeding people, more than that they need the Spiritual Food. I repeat, do everything as He did most importantly feed them the WORD(TORAH).
     When the apostles went into different directions to preach they had nothing all they had was the WORD to give {{ Matthew 10.8 – Jesus said: “Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons. Freely you received, freely give..}} There are many aspects for doing these things and without the WORD it cannot be done. Also those who have material things they can sell all and help the poor but those spirit filled like the apostles who have nothing but the WORD, must they quit from this assignment from God?

    The gates of Hell is wide open. Most of the people on Earth will end up there. Jesus the Messiah said that we have to walk the narrow road, and make it through the narrow gate. Only a few shall find it.

     This paragraph does not connect to this issue. However, those who don’t FOLLOW in the way of Messiah Yahshua, they most definitely will end up in hell.

    If you want to be among the few, you need to believe, trust, relay on and obey the Messiah, the King of Kings.
     Thank you, I am in very good hands. I have the best Hebraic Teachers and their teaching is simply AWESOME that helps me walk with the Lord the way He wants me to. I do not listen to Christians of ANY denominations anymore they are becoming ecumenical day by day turning their backs on the KING of kings, LORD of lords and GOD of gods. I’ve had enough listening to Christian preachers who interpret scriptures according to their own understanding and lead their flocks to hell. One day the Lord is going to spit them out {{Rev. 3: 15&16}} Here is just some of it but a lot of Christian denominations continue to defect. http://www.thewatchmanwakes.com/Letter-of-warning-toHickory-Harvest-Church.html

    There is no difference between the Mosaic Covenant, and the New covenant that was added. Salvation has always been a matter of grace. (undeserved kindness from God). The blood of Jesus is the ultimate undeserved kindness from God, that was given us for our justification.

     Well, now you say there is no difference between the Mosaic Covenant and the New covenant yet in your first paragraph it appears that the Mosaic Covenant is made obsolete. YASHUA(Jesus) has been the significant sacrifice right from the Garden of Eden until He physically came to earth and died for us. Before I conclude, I just want to add this: Christians divide the Bible with OT and NT. To me the Word of God is all one without any division right from Genesis to Revelation. When something is divided is falls apart or is destroyed. Words of the Lord: {{ Luke 11:17 Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falls”.}} That’s why there is so much confusion with the interpretation of Bible scriptures.
    God Bless.

    1. Dear Bethany.

      Shalom, and thanks for a long reply.

      You wrote as comment to my statement, in brackets:

      (A simple thing. To believe in Him. That He has fulfilled the law, and that salvation is a matter of mercy and grace. We do not deserve to be saved. Non of us)

      I prefer to FOLLOW HIM than just believe in HIM, for many believe in Him but do not Follow Him. You mean if we die in sin it’s OK because He has fulfilled the law and salvation is a matter of mercy and grace? Doesn’t make sense to me.

      My reply.

      To believe in Him is to follow Him.

      Where do you follow Him?

      When you forgive, when you share, when you tell others about him. People who are followers of Jesus, are gracious people. People who feel they are able to get everything right, and mock others, are Pharisees.

      You wrote:

      To you I may be wrong but I know I am right because you are in a religion and I am not.

      My reply.

      Do you really get everything right, all the time?

      There are many sects. One sign of being sectarian is to make an issues out of the spelling, or rather how to pronounce His name.

      Be careful my sister.

  5. Dear Ivar:

    Thank you for your advice but as I mentioned before I do not take advice from Catholics, or Christians or any religions for that matter when it pertains the BIBLE.

    What’s important is our final destination. God has given us intelligence and we have to seek Him and when we seek Him we find Him for HE is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE.

    I have come a long way from being a Catholic (a dud about the True God) and a Christian where I heard nothing but the “Prosperity Gospel” “Give and God will give you double and treble” which is still continuing until this day.

    Almost all Christians have their own concept of the Biblical Teaching. I have had enough with CATHOLICISM and CHRISTIANITY.

    Sadly many do not understand what it means to FOLLOW JESUS, I pray the Lord will enlighten them. I FOLLOW YAHSHUA because He said so and because I BELIEVE in HIM, TRUST HIM, and have FAITH in HIM and am doing my best to do what He wants me to do. If I am not for HIM then I can never be with HIM. You did not have to judge me, and criticize me on Following Him because no one knows the depth of the others faith in the Lord rather let HIM be the Judge. HE is the only gracious God and HE guides us if we are doing wrong. BELIEF and FAITH go hand-in-hand. If I had not believed in HIM, I would have gone into a different direction. I thank the Lord God for taking me out from where I was to where HE has placed me now and I am determined to stay put.

    The issue was about Inger Lise Hansen that you brought up and I was merely making a point about “Confusion” and the truth about God’s Word but this is turning into a conflict. So I’ll take the first step to STOP here because the WORD of our God is not to be debated upon rather is is to be practiced.

    I pray for Inger Lise Hansen and the billions of people around the world that the Lord Jesus will touch their hearts and bring them into the road of SALVATION.
    GOD BLESS

    1. Dear Bethany.

      Shalom, and love in Jesus of Nazareth.

      He was supposed to called Emmanuel, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of peace.

      I full understand your points. Many Catholics leave Rome, and end up in the second circle of deception, a fortress of Satan of prosperity teachers. Leaving Rome, I my self spent 18 months in a Word of Faith «fellowship».

      To stop being Catholic, does not make anyone a Christian. To be a Christian means to give up our life in the flesh, and follow the teachings of the Messiah. How you spell and pronounce His name is not the issue.

      Have you met the risen Lord? Have you surrendered to Him, and do you live a holy and righteous life to His glory? Do you shine among men, and explains to them the Kingdom of Heaven?

      God bless you too, my sister Bethany.

  6. The difference between Islam, Judaism and Christianity is this. Judaism says Abraham offered his son Isaac as a sacrifice to God, thereby they became the chosen ones who the messiah would come by. Islam says Abraham offered Ishmael as the sacrifice to God which makes Arabs the chosen ones who the messiah will come by. And Christianity says Jesus descendant of Isaac was the messiah, who has already come and all who believe in Jesus are the chosen ones.
    But it’s not over till it’s over. On Christs return, known as the second coming all will see him and believe, the living and the dead. I suspect it could mean everyone is saved through their belief in Jesus.

    1. Ed,

      It is actually way more simpler than that, because Christ are Savior does not one anyone to perish.

      This bible verse says it all:

      John 8:24 “I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am [the one I claim to be], you will indeed die in your sins.”

      Those who do not believe that Christ is HE, (perfect example: John 10:30) will die in their sins.

    2. Dear Ed.

      Shalom

      You wrote:

      On Christs return, known as the second coming all will see him and believe, the living and the dead. I suspect it could mean everyone is saved through their belief in Jesus.

      My comment:

      This is again your private religion, and you private opinion. How many times have I told you to read the Bible.

      Matthew 25:41
      “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

      (end of scripture)

      These are pretty plain words.

      In Matthew 7:21-23, Jesus explains that even claimed to be “born again’s”, but are false Christians who have been deceived by their priests and Pastors, will be forever separated from the Messiah:

      Matthew 7:23
      Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!.

      (end of scripture)

      Ed: Enough of personal opinion’s and man made religions.

      1. You put your own words in there Ivar Matt 7:21-23, that’s not exactly what it says so who is altering the word?

        Is that so detestable to you that everyone might be saved? I saw you writing all Israel will be saved even the unbelievers in Christ. You love that but hate that everyone else might be saved also? There is plenty in scriptures to suspect that idea for those with an ear for it.

        You claim to know everything God is capable of doing?

        But it’s your site so I will no longer comment on your site nor come to it again. Good riddence..

      2. Dear Ed.

        Shalom

        I can not force anyone to write comments on this blog. You are a free man, and are welcome back.

        To use the Bible to promote “all people will be saved” is nothing but deception and pure wickedness.

        It is surely the desire of Jesus that all men shall be saved. But since he does not force anyone to follow Him, there will be plenty of people who will reject the Word of God, and have to spend eternity in Hell.

        That all of Israel shall be saved, is written in the Bible. It is not me who wrote so, but Paul the Apostle. He explain to us a future day, when the Lord returns to rescue the Jews. Jesus is returning to Zion, to the city of Jerusalem. The Bible says all nations shall gang up on Israel, and will face judgment.

        Do not end up with her enemies.

        It is not written anywhere in the Bible that no one shall end up in Hell. To the radical opposite, Jesus speaks about the broad road that will lead the multitudes into the eternal fire.

        Those who want to live, will have to make it through the narrow gate. Jesus is that gate. He holds life and death in His hands.

      3. Dear all readers.

        Romans 11: 25-27

        I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written:

        “The deliverer will come from Zion;
        he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
        And this is[b] my covenant with them
        when I take away their sins.”[c]

        (end of scripture)

        Keep in mind that the partly hardening of the Jewish heart has brought salvation to the gentiles. When the Messiah returns, He will judge those who have harmed her. Israel will be saved. Her enemies will not be saved.

      4. Ed,

        There will come a time when the Lord says: Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God,

        Ezekiel 39 says: 28Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.

        29Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

        Matthew 7 verse 21 to 23 says: 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

        Ivar is correct, but the bible is always 100% correct, and Ivar quotes it right. I have had people come up to me Ed, and tell me they are believers of Jesus, and then they act another way, or even begin to perform mystical witchcraft like “future telling” which is of satan. There are people like that and many others who will say to Christ have I not done this in your name, and that is where Christ will say depart from me. I tell you the truth Ed, if Ivar did not quote the bible correctly, or if Ivar did not believe in Jesus Christ our Savior I would not be a regular on his blog. But he is a man who believes in Our Coming King- The Only King.

        Ed, I do hope you come back, but you must understand that what you say that everyone might be saved, whether from Islam, and Judasim or so forth is completely wrong and against the Word of God.

        May God Bless you Ed, and may you return to hear more from the Word of God.

      5. Dear Gloria.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        Ivar is correct, but the bible is always 100% correct, and Ivar quotes it right.

        My reply:

        Thanks for supporting Jesus. It is true that He is always 100 per cent correct. Only He. Only the Word is infallible. I do commit mistakes, and that includes applying the Word incorrectly. When I do such mistakes, please correct me in love. I promise to learn from my mistakes, and change my way.

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