«Rick Warren push for foolish and hopeless ecumenical peace»

«The hour is too late to withhold a gospel message without which they will face a Christless eternity, and you will be held accountable».

Jan Markell sends a strong warning to Pastor Rick Warren
Jan Markell sends a strong warning to Pastor Rick Warren

Pastor Warren, you pleaded with 8,000 Muslim listeners on Saturday, July 4, to work together to solve the world’s greatest problems by cooperating in a series of interfaith projects. You said,

«Muslims and Christians can work together for the common good without compromising my convictions or your convictions»

Pastor Warren, you needed to compromise the convictions of the Muslims in attendance. To just say that «My deepest faith is in Jesus Christ» was not enough to a thoroughly lost crowd. The hour is too late to withhold a gospel message without which they will face a Christless eternity, and you will be held accountable.

The «world’s greatest problems» will always be with us and the Bible says so in Matthew 26:11. Sin is at the root of them. I have to conclude you are more interested in ecumenical unity and solving AIDS, poverty, and other social issues. Last Saturday you were given a golden opportunity that 99.9 per cent of American Christians could never get.

Rick Warren defended his self with this comment: «Talk is cheap but love is something we do together. We must do something to model what it is to live in peace, to live in harmony»

Pastor Warren, you know your Bible better than that, don’t you? The Bible says there will never be peace and harmony in this world until the Messiah rules from His theocratic kingdom.

The U.N. spews the same kind of pagan «peace concepts». Aren’t you above that? You would likely never suggest your Muslim audience pray for the peace of Jerusalem (Psalm122:6), yet you push for foolish and hopeless ecumenical peace!

Source: Open letter from Jan Markell, in Olive Three Ministries

Read the full message from Markell: Click here

Found at http://nuggetnetreview.com

My comment:

I have already said enough. I pray that Rick Warren will get a chance to listen, and change his ways. Messianic Christians can not afford to loose anyone. In the name of Y´shua. Amen.

2 thoughts on “«Rick Warren push for foolish and hopeless ecumenical peace»

  1. The main question you ask is why Rick is speaking at the ISNA conference? While I do not wish to offer an apologia for ISNA, I would refer you to multiple articles that describe the organization’s goals in reaching out to other faiths, including Judaism, and denouncing terrorism (Rabbi Eric Yoffie, the leader of the largest branch of American Judaism, addressed the convention two years ago; also see the AP story on July 1 by Zoll, and stories in the Christian Post, Church Solutions and even the Washington Times in the past week).
    What I would like to clarify is Rick’s message and motive. You claim that Rick probably doesn’t have an agenda, but I would like to assert that it is his lifelong agenda that led him to accept the invitation to speak at ISNA. You may have noticed that outside of Saddleback Church, and Rick’s 30 year Purpose Driven Ministry to pastors, he does very little speaking to Christian groups of believers. Instead, he invests his time speaking to groups of unbelievers that most pastors never get the opportunity to share with. He carefully considers the opportunities that God has given him to address these audiences. These are folks that Jesus died for, but would never enter a church to hear the Good News. Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” Luke 5:31 (NIV) Rick believes strongly that if you want to actively demonstrate the love of Christ to others as He commands us to, then you have to reach out to a variety of audiences. No one is ever convinced of God’s love by labeling, condemnation, or anger. Rick strongly believes that if we want to behave in a Christ-like example, we must not waste any time judging others (Jesus didn’t), but instead, do everything we can to build relationships of love and respect and trust with others.
    In our secular culture, there are about a dozen different groups of influencers that we at Saddleback seek to serve and reach out to including those in academics, business, military, sports, health care, media, prisoners, entertainment, other faiths, and government. If we are to fulfill Jesus’ Great Commission in the world, we must build bridges to all of these, and more. Just know the goal of every speaking engagement Rick accepts is always the same: The global glory of God. We seek to build bridges of love – from our hearts to hearts of even those we may disagree with – so that Jesus can walk across!
    The theme of the session at which Rick will speak is “Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness,” a theme most appropriate for a message on perhaps our country’s most sacred day, Independence Day. Rick will bring a message appropriate to the values of the meaning of this day on what America and all Americans, not just Muslims or Christians, need to maintain our independence. Freedom and independence were at the core of our country’s founders and those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice to protect this country across its history. As a pastor, Rick intimately understands these values, particularly the value of religious freedom, and will fiercely advocate for them unashamedly in front of any audience. But religious freedom means the right to practice the religion of one’s choice regardless of whether or not others agree with a particular religion’s tenets, and the freedom to associate for the common good of all Americans and for those less fortunate than us around the world. That is a value that is not only part of our heritage as Americans, but also a commandment of Jesus Christ.
    I appreciate the opportunity to clarify Rick’s appearance before ISNA and would refer you to a recent issue of Rick’s “News and Views” in which he thoroughly discusses why he speaks to a variety of audiences.

    1. Thanks Rebecca.

      Thanks for your positive and reflective comment. I will always listen to what you and Pastor Warren have to say.

      You said:
      If we are to fulfill Jesus’ Great Commission in the world, we must build bridges to all of these, and more. Just know the goal of every speaking engagement Rick accepts is always the same:

      My comment:

      I agree. On this web-site, which is also a part of the Great Commission, I would rather expose the evil deeds of darkness within Islam, than to try to excuse it or work together with people who are the enemies of God of the Bible. I will do the same, if I get a chance to stand in front of 8.000 Muslims in the US. I might not do so in Mecca, since my head would bee chopped off in the very next moment.

      Nevertheless, in the very office where I sit in this moment, I have to be ready to be a martyr for Christ. The «problem» with people like me (and you), are that the devil dont know what to do with us. If he sends me (or Rick Warren) to prison, in a bid to stop us, we will spread the gospel inside the prison. If the devil is allowed to kill us, its just because Jesus has permitted so to happen, because Jesus wants us to come home and serve Him in the Kingdom of Heaven. Thats were we all have our final destination. Today, or tomorrow.

      Please tell Rick Warren, if you get a chance to meet him.

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