Joel Osteen: «Obama is a Christian, doing a good job»

Charismatic mega Church prosperity teacher Joel Osteen brands the US President as «A good Christian, who is doing a good job in a difficult time».

Joel Osteen and his wife

These questions came to mind while watching Joel Osteen and his lovely wife, Victoria, on CNN’s “Larry King Live” last week. King pointed out that many Americans are still confused about Obama’s religion and asked, «Does it matter?»

«Well, it matters to me,« said Osteen. «It matters to me that I know he loves the Lord, and I think it’s important that he has convictions from his faith. So to me, it matters when I’m making my personal decisions».

Mrs. Osteen weighed in, too: «It does. It matters to me. … I believe he is a Christian».

Source: http://www.worldnetdaily.com

My comment:

The Holy Spirit shall lead us into the truth, and all the truth. Joel Osteen is one of the leading global preachers of the false Prosperity Gospel. He can be seen on God TV, and on other prominent claimed to be Christian TV-stations.

This comment by the American preacher and his wife, makes me more sure about what I already knew. That both Obama and Joel Osteen is serving the same Lord. But it is not God of Bible, and His Messiah.

How can i be so blunt with Obama?

Well in Cairo, Obama spoke about «The Holy Koran», and branded Islam as a peaceful religion.

When Jesus walked on Earth, there was neither Muslims, nor a book called the Koran. The Koran is full of errors. It has deleted the Covenant people, the offspring of Isaac and Jacob.  In Islam, there in not place for Jews, nor Christians who claims to have been saved by a Son of King David, the Jewish Messiah Jesus of Nazareth.

If Joel Osteen was a Christian, The Holy Spirit would have told him to expose men like Obama.

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184 thoughts on “Joel Osteen: «Obama is a Christian, doing a good job»

  1. Good morning. This story shows that we’re in a time when folks no longer endure sound doctrine but heap to themselve teachers, having itching ears. There’s a profound vacancy these days in the area of discernment. Thanks for shedding light on this story and exposing this error.

    Blessing always in Jesus name.

    timbob

    1. Have u people lost your minds?? Have u looked or followed anything of Obama’s agenda’s? PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTIONS??? AIDING AN ABETTING THE ENEMY by sending HAMAS 47 MILLION $$$ PLUS ISIS 93 USA MADE TOYOTA TRUCKS?? What about his book” Audacity of Hope”. he personally stated: When the winds of war change I will go with the muslims’??? Look what he did in Syria..look what Horrible things he said about Bush..YET he sends MORE of our Military to Iraq??? GAY MARRIAGES’ FOR HEAVENS SAKES?? OBAMA IS FOR EVERYTHING GOD IS AGAINST. Do any of u recall the DNC 2012 VOTING GOD OUT? How about when Obama said ” WE/AMERICA IS NO LONGER A CHRISTIAN NATION??
      IF you people condone all of this..then do not call yourselves children of GOD. THIS IS satans WORK…NOT GODS. You people are WHY this country is going down the tubes Spiritually. U CANNOT CONDONE EVIL just to fit in with the Rich Crowds. GOD SEE’S ALL AND HE KNOWS ALL. SHAME ON U THAT AGREE WITH OLSTEEN..SHAME SHAME ON YOU.

      1. I AGREE 100%…OLSTEEN THINKS OF HIMSELF AS A GOD!
        I DON’T EVEN THINK OLSTEEN AND HIS WIFE HAVE EVER EVEN READ THE BIBLE!! ALWAYS SAYING THERE IS POWER IN US ALL!! BUT HE FORGETS THAT GOD GIVES US POWER THRU HIS WORD! NOT ONE TIME HAVE I HEARD HIM SAY THIS! EVEN THOUGH I DON’T LISTEN TO HIM THAT MUCH AND THAT COULD BE THE REASON, BUT THE TIMES I’VE HEARD HIM SPEAK WHILE FLIPPING THRU THE CHANNELS ON TV, THIS SEEMS TO BE HIS PLATFORM NOT GOD!! IN CHURCH PASTORS HAVE MENTIONED THAT OLSTEEN IS THE FEEL GOOD PREACHER……HE FEELS GOOD ABOUT ALL THE MONEY HE’S RAKED IN BY NOT PREACHING THE BIBLE!!

      2. Iris …..thank you for saying what all of us are thinking. How can obama be a good Christian and make a statement about Planned Parenthood .”If they(obama’s daughters, Malia and Sasha) make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.” Meaning he believes in abortion. I don’t care who you are, if you vote as a democrat you have the blood of all those innocent lives lost as if you had killed them yourself, You vote as a democrat you will have a special spot in hell. You have helped him further his agenda, Joel and Victoria have helped him further his agenda.as well. Think about it……YOU CAN’T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS

      3. I totally agree… how can you condone partial birth abortions and gay marriages and really be a child off God?

      4. Olsteen and Obama strike me as children of the god of this world. However their god (any likely them too) will be sent to the lake of fire by the Living God. How exactly can anyone say someone is godly who advocates the atrocities that Obama embraces so dearly. Birds of a feather. Sickening

      5. I couldn’t have said it better. Btw. If you don’t already, listen to trunews on the net or YouTube. He is a pastor who calls obama as he really is. An Islamic jihadist. We’re coming up on the end. The second coming of Jesus Christ. We need to get hunkered down and come together as followers of Christ during this storm.

      6. Absolutely…THIS COUNTRY IS UNDER JUDGEMENT…THE AMERICAN PEOPLE VOTED IN THIS “Obama – Nation – Of Desolation”… We, this great country was blessed among all nations of the earth and we have backsliden……If the people of this nation do not REPENT…IT WILL BE OVER…THIS IS MORE THAN A WARNING…IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DETERMINED BY THE MOST HIGH…

      7. Iris, you are absolutely correct! We must speak up against this! I would point out additional things like the fact that Obama and his administration are corrupt and the they have been lying to the American people for 6 years.

      8. In Isaiah 29 :13 we find Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honor me,but have removed their heart far from me,and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men. kjv

      9. Don’t you even wonder why he said this? I mean forget the paranoia and name calling and use some critical thinking: Why did this man speak out and say these things? I personally think we are doing fine in America but this article was not about you, it was about Olsteen turning 180 degrees on an issue.

    2. Here’s the quote from the article:

      “‘Well, it matters to me,’ said Osteen. ‘It matters to me that I know he loves the Lord, and I think it’s important that he has convictions from his faith. So to me, it matters when I’m making my personal decisions.’ Mrs. Osteen weighed in, too: ‘It does. It matters to me. … I believe he is a Christian.’”

      I see nothing wrong with that. I believe Obama is a Christian. I’ve thought that for a long time and I think you may have heard me say that before. Doesn’t mean I agree with his politics.

      As you know, when we receive Jesus we are spiritually born again and are God’s children. The new man is like Jesus (I John 4:17). But as you know also, our body, flesh, mind, emotions, and beliefs are not necessarily like Jesus. We have a lot to learn. We are like babies that need to grow. Some of us grow faster, some of us grow slower, and some of us fail to grow in certain areas (“arrested development, failure to launch”). As you know also, our salvation doesn’t depend on how well we cooperate with God in our growth, our salvation depends upon the perfect and eternal sacrifice of Christ on the cross. But I believe our willingness to surrender to the Lord, including giving up our old ways, beliefs, habits, mindsets, etc., will determine our rewards here and later.

      So Obama, IMO, is a believer in Christ as well as a true believer in socialism/collectivism. A lot of Christians are deceived, IMO, about socialism because it sounds so good. Such good intentions. But they fail to see he fundamental flaws, the violation of God-given individual rights and freedoms and the utterly failed results of socialism/collectivism.

      I think Obama was steeped in class warfare and socialist collectivism long before he came to Christ. He talks about coming to Christ when he was in Chicago as a community organizer. He came to the Lord, he says, because he saw Jesus as the ultimate “good guy” when it came to helping the poor and underprivileged. So it appears that Obama sees no conflict with believing in Christ and his savior and pushing for a socialist state. Add to that, his 20 years in a Christian church, but one that preached hatred of America. So he’s been steeped in a lot of stuff that has formed his beliefs, but that we find heinous.

      But if we look at ourselves, we have to admit the same is true for us. I used to be a liberal Democrat. It took me a long time to figure my way out of that. And my background wasn’t nearly as toxic in these areas as Obama’s. And we still hold on to a lot of things, often times without even realizing it. The difference is Obama’s background was steeped was in a set of values and beliefs that is so contrary to what we’re used to and believe in. Nevertheless, as you know, his salvation, like ours doesn’t depend on how right or wrong we are about politics and the things of the world, but on receiving Jesus Christ.

      I don’t see any Osteen quote that Obama is “doing a good job.”

      1. Evil is evil Jim. It is in our actions that we are to be judged; you and I included. We Christians have gone along to get along for an overly extended time and now we are at the precipice of those choices. Evil is as evil does and if you cannot see the evil in their actions I say YOU are evil for protecting them. Intent is not relevant because each of us if we are Christian knows by the voice of the Holy Spirit when we see or perceive evil. The only way he would not hear the Holy Spirit within him is if he has shunned and ignored it for too long. The voice in my heart tells me he is evil and if I am wrong I will likely be damning my soul for false witness but I am willing to take that chance and I do not take it lightly.

    3. I’m not sure if the Olsteen’s still feel this way or not considering this article was written in 2009 and Obama had a lot of people fooled. Sadly many still are.

    4. there are “witting pawns” of satan, and …. there are “unwitting pawns”
      For someone to be so anti-Christ they must surely be witting. Joel Osteen is a son of satan, as is Rick Warren. He and his wife will be exposed in these last days as they should be !!

    5. This story was done in 2009 but it’s just now being published? I have always thought Joel Olsteen of being a bit of a douche bag but now I can say without any reservations that he is a complete moron. To proclaim a person (obama) who has done everything he could to see America fail and Israel fall to the hands of the enemy as a “good christian” has lost his damn mind. He obviously has not seen much through his squinting eyes that the world is burning because of obama, and to me that is not a a product of a good christian. I think in the bible it says you can judge a man by his deeds which reflects the motivation of his heart (obviously paraphrasing). However, someone who encourages the world to rise up against the norms of their society and if they do not promote a sense of self satisfaction should be dismissed and new ones put in their place, is not doing the works of Father or any god, but himself. Joel Olsteen you win my vote for being one to the biggest hypocrites and frauds, not to mention douche bag. Next time your in the Dayton Ohio area I will be sure to tell you that to your face.

      1. YAHWEH LINCOLN PARK MINISTRY, HILO, HAWAII:
        Osteen is a false teacher because he is an agent of the coming Antichrist.
        Obama is an Islam Moslem and only spiritually blinded people can’t see that truth for Obama is NOT a Christian.
        America has slapped Yahweh’s face twice.
        Wade vs. Roe 1973 and Same-sex marriage 2015.
        Yahweh’s wrath is going to come down upon America.
        America has gone past the point-of-no-return.
        People need to start saving their individual souls through Yahshua because America as a nation as been conquered by Satan.

  2. Dear Timebob.

    Thanks for this comment.

    I agree with you. And again, lets keep men like Joel Osteen in our prayers. I have been saved by mercy and grace. I will surely commit mistakes, just like all other human beings. To be able to walk with Jesus, we need His mercy every day, and His corrections that we always receive in love.

  3. While I did not vote for Obama, nor will I in 2012, I did note that he has said on several occasions that he is a Christian and that Jesus Christ is his Lord & Savior. Putting aside for a moment whether you believe him or not, he has declared this before the whole world. Jesus said, “If you declare me before men, I will declare you before my father in Heaven.” Becasue he has declared Jesus before men, I don’t believe any of us should declare Obama unsaved. Osteen took Obama at his declared word and I think Osteen would have been foolish to declare him unsaved. As far as Obama doing a good job, we can debate that with Osteen all day, however, I suspect Osteen was merely being respectful of our president — which is a Biblical.

    1. Dear Don.

      I do not disagree with you. I can not read Obamas heart, nor can Joel Osteen. But, there is a but: I can listen to what Obama says about Islam. And that makes me more than worried. Its not lip service that saves, but Jesus who saves those who obey Him. Whatever it is, we need to pray for the President of the US, and the American Government. That is Biblical. Messianic Christians cant even think of a single soul getting lost.

    2. T hat’s right you are not from Texas. Your apology for Obama and Osteen are not exceptable. If it’s a spotted dog living under a traliler don’t say the sun is blocked. In Romans Chapter 1 God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things that are not convenient.Beware your could wind up as partaker of their evil deeds.

    3. Obama is obviously a professional liar, and has frequently demenstrated he is against Christians. Do you really believe the Lord would want us to support him? Although, I know God chooses however he wants as leaders, and he don’t make mistakes. This makes me believe he chose Obsma to reflect the fast declining morals throughout the country.

      I believe Joe is a Christian, I don’t know what happened with this comment claiming Obama is Christian. That is puzzling.

      1. joel olsteen also called Mormons Christian . Mormons believe Jesus and Lucifer are brothers and that they have a goddess mother and God the Father

    4. you need to realize that the Koran teaches that one can lie about being Muslim IF it furthers Islam. It also teaches that “DECEPTION IS WAR”

      do not be fooled.
      Barack Obama is Not a Christian.
      as the Bible teaches, “YOU SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS”
      and also, “NOT EVERYONE WHO SAYS ‘LORD LORD’ shall enter the Kingdom of God”

    5. There is an interview audio between author Edward Klein and the Reverend Wright. “…the Reverend Wright told me on tape, that Obama came to him and said, ‘I need some spiritual advice; I don’t know exactly who I am’ and the Reverend Wright said… ‘Well we know your Islam background… but what you need now, is some coaching on Christianity.’ And I asked the Reverend Wright ‘did you convert him from being a Muslim to being a Christian and he said, ‘well, I don’t know if I could go that far but… I made it comfortable for him to accept Christianity without having to renounce his Islamic background.’”

  4. Hi folks!
    Actually, Muslims do believe in Jesus as the True and only Christ (messiah), born of the Virgin Mary

    We just dont believe that Jesus was God, or His son –

    Jesus worshipped and obeyed God, and taught everyone to do the same. We as Muslims, try our best to do that. The Lords prayer that Jesus taught, according to Christians – involves nothing of worshipping Jesus. It is to worship God alone,

    -Peace and love to those who follow Guidance,
    God’s guidance, is the only guidance

    1. Dear Bidal.

      Shalom.

      If you dont believe that Jesus is God, God the Son, you live in error. If Jesus is not God, He can not take away your sins. If Jesus is not God, he only died on the cross in Jerusalem. But Jesus did not only die, when he was nailed to the cross for your sins. My Lord resurrected, he defeated death. Death could not hold the author of life. Jesus is alive. He appeared to 500 witnesses, and today He sits in Heaven at the right hand of God the Father. And He is soon coming back to judge the World.

      Muhammad was a man. He died. He is no more. He cant save anyone, not even him self. Muhammad is not coming back.

      Live you Islamic faith, and start to live for Jesus of Nazareth. He will give you a new heart, and also raise you from the dead on your last day. Amen.

    2. interesting bilal, then, who’s son is He, born of a Virgin, if not the Son of God, and if you believe He is the Messiah, how could He be, if not the Son of God…Jesus did obey His Father, He is all about Peace, Love and Mercy…He did instruct us to pray the Lord’s prayer…”Our Father…” since I believe in the Trinity…a very difficult concept, albeit, I do get the three are one and separate…difficult to grasp…but, in prayer…all for one and one for all…a beautiful reality…Peace & Blessings…

    3. Islam teaches another Jesus and not the TRUE Jesus of the Bible
      Islam is a Satanic Ideology and teaches everything that goes against God’s Word
      Muhammad was NOT a prophet of God at all but just some insane pervert that slept with children and had sex with goats. All those that follow the teachings of that unholy ideology are destined for eternal FIRE!!!
      have a warm eternity

      1. It’s so unfortunate that death, confused religion like Islam can have followers. A religion that propagates trouble and war here and there. Anywhere you have mass destruction and insurgents Islam is at the root. How can people be so stupid and foolish to practice such an inhuman religion.

    4. That is why Christians do not believe in Islam. Jesus was and is THE SON OF GOD. He is a part of the Holy Trinity of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost. End of story.

  5. You all are so caught up in your stupid religions, what you forget is tolerance. Everyone is seeking God in their own way. People always want to tell others what is true, better but they forget humanity. Osteen is awesome and so is Obama. I can not think of any other president in the WORLD that has excited and given so much hope for a change. I am sure he will do a GREAT job, alone for his tolerance of other people. I have people in my family that are bornagain Christians and Muslims and we learned to get along and love each other and not preach to each other, that is TOLERANCE!

    1. It sounds to me like Satan has won the round in your family. He has quietened the Word of God. That is exactly what he wants. If the Word of God is quite than who can hear the truth and be saved?

    2. Change all right. We are at war you idiot. Did you have a daughter that died at the WTC? Did you live there and work there and now a mosque? Muslims are not tolerant of us and want to kill us. O hates America is on another flip/flop planet full of politicians. Wake up & smell the coffee. As for Osteen, he means well and is inspirational.

      1. amen…but, gail, be nice…funda, while i don’t agree with, seems misguided, but entitled to his/her (not sure) own opinion, and it doesn’t come across well as a Christian to call someone names…and you are right, they (radical muslims) are not tolerant…they are Hell Bent on making all become like them…where funda says, “Everyone is seeking God in their own way.” well, if everyone is doing their “own thing”, no wonder this world is in the shape it is in…I’m one of the most tolerant people on the planet…it comes with great prayer, mercy, forgiveness and love…Great Expectations…especially when i’d like to use “idiot, fool, moron, stupid, imbecile, etc” just like everyone else…self control…that’s another great expectation…tolerance everyone…Peace & Hope

      2. ef you in d a- FUNDA…I’m a disciple of Christ & I repeat what my Father and Big Brother Jesus says, “I am The Way, The Truth and The Life, no man can get to The Father except through me!” Your problem is not with Christians, it’s with God. FUNDA…you and other children of Satan are blinded & may Hod have mercy on your souls. Jesus loves you & I love you…receive Gods gift of forgiveness & eternal life.

    3. How do you feel now about obama? What’s your thoughts on the open borders? Isis beheadings? The hatred toward Isreal? The ferguson missouri riots? That’s a whole lot of hope and change. ‘Murica. Yeah Obamas doing a “great job” great job of ruining America.

      1. Jeff,you have summed up the whole tragic story in a understandable package.There is more,much more but woundnt fit here.Thank you for your blunt, true and infuriating
        Statement here so all these misguided souls might have a chance at salvation.

      1. Im not on foodstamps,welfare or any other bandaids that balack obama wants us to use.If we are dependant to rhem we will HAVE to be supportive of their regime.

      1. Christ didn’t call us to be tolerant, He called us to love and not to love as humans love, but to love as He has loved us. Unadulterated, I afflicted, honestly and without abandon. To love our enemies to such a point that we would die for them.

    4. Funda do not confuse Serving God or the Love of God with Tolerance.

      in fact, the ONLY time “Tolerance” is mentioned in the Bible, is when Jesus speaks in Revelations to the Church, in which he says “….what i have against you is that you TOLERATE that evil woman Jezebel…”

      Jezebel being the Spirit that Undermines the True Authority of God.

      HUMANISM IS NOT CHRISTIANITY

      1. I think a lot of people see Jesus as meek and mild. No. He had a backbone. He was PC and was intolerant of many things.
        Christians aren’t supposed to be taught tolerance. We are taught to ‘Love our neighbor as ourselves.’
        I agree with you.
        We are a Christian nation no matter what Obama says otherwise. He is a Muslim. They hate Christians i.e. Infidels.

    5. Do have any idea what you are saying about this idiot you call a president. He has done so much disgrace to this great nation and it’s allies that once believe in our support. And you say you are excited about this change in America. Somebody get Funda some oxygen for her brain.

  6. i like the preacher and his preaching also believed that through jesus we can repend. gddy .am akenyan who is ready to lean more about joel osteen ministry.

  7. Dear Peter.

    Shalom.

    Why do so many Christians die as martyrs, if it was God´s will that all of us should prosper and become rich and famous like Joel Osteen?

    John the Baptist was be headed when Jesus walked on Earth, still Jesus said that no one greater then Him had been born?

    Why was Stephen stoned? Did He misunderstand the true faith?

    Is the purpose of our faith to have fleshy and worldly desires, just like Joel Osteen is preaching?

  8. If someone accuses Christians of forcing their worldview on others, and tells them to stop preaching and telling people that Jesus is God because it’s wrong to force your values on others, aren’t you forcing your values on Christians?
    Isn’t it just as much of a worldview and religion as Christianity is to believe that all religions are true/false and that people shouldn’t actually follow out the implications of their faith in order to maintain “peace”?

    Suppose Jesus is God, and all who do not believe in Him are going to hell. Is it really love to keep that fact to yourself?

    And, if all religions are true, then that clearly violates the law of Non-Contradiction. There is one God over all, there can not be “multiple ways to recognizing the elephant”, because the various world religions make truth claims that are the exact opposite of each other in some instances.

    Peace to you all.

    1. So true, Evan! Thank you. It’s not forcing my worldview on others simply to invite them to the “party” that God is preparing for the redeemed. I wish that all Muslims could gain a true understanding of Jesus, the God-man who redeems all who repent and believe.

  9. When Jesus walked the earth there were no Christians. The organized religion called Christianity started many years after his death, the gospels were written many years after his death. Jesus was not a blond, blue eyed dude either. He was not from Utah or the USA. So stop making things up so that it sounds good for American Christians who are a group of cult followers. the biggest mistake that was ever made was the Christianize West. The hijacking of an Eastern religion for the sake of amassing wealth by Westerners. Americans also claim, karate, Buddhism, yoga and other Eastern teachings as theirs. Stop this already!!

    1. Dear Sunny.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      You are both right and wrong. Already when Jesus walked on Earth He had Jewish students and followers. They studied the Hebrew scriptures together.

      Jesus was not from Burma, neither was He a Buddhist. He was Jewish. There is no truth in any claim that He was promoting any Eastern Religion. Jesus came to serve God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel), God of the Hebrews.

    2. Christianity has always existed from Adam onward. Those great men and women of faith in the old testament were looking forward to the promised Christ; the promised Messiah. God clothed Adam and Eve with sheeps skins which represented the lamb of God, and promised them through Eve a savior. The feast of passover and all the feasts and traditions of the Jews including the temple itself pointed to the work of Jesus Christ. The evil that is coming on this earth and indeed has been with us for some time is an evil that will also be in sheeps clothing like Olsteen and Obama their sweet and appealing words mask the wolf inside which can be seen if your eyes have been opened by the spirit of God. There is no sense as a Christian to be unloving and rude to any of our fellow human beings but truth should be on our lips.

  10. you should not compare them since joel is a preacher and obama is a president despite the fact that we all are Gods people lets not intimidate any one of them whether muslim or christian we serve the same God

    1. Dennis,

      We do not serve the same God, because there is only one God. Everything else is a lie from satan. What the muslims serve is a lie from the devil. The bible is clear on false idols and prophets.

      1 John 4:1
      Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

      Matthew 7:21
      “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

      1 John 4:1-6
      Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them. …

    2. Dear Dennis.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      You wrote:

      whether Muslim or Christian we serve the same God

      My reply:

      We do not. The Muslims do not accept that Jesus is God the Son. They do not accept that man can only be saved by being washed by the blood of Jesus. The true God is One. Father, Son and Spirit is One God, always in agreement.

      1. Osteen is a disgrace. If Obama is anything, he is a liberal jew.

        The JEWS do not accept that Jesus is God the Son. They do not accept that man can only be saved by being washed by the blood of Jesus. The true God is One. Father, Son and Spirit is One God, always in agreement.

        Was Jesus a Jew? Who was the First Jew?

        by John Standring

        “We know that Saul was the first king of Israel and that John was the first man called Baptist, but who was the first Jew? Neither Adam, Seth or Noah are called Jew. Nor were Abraham, Isaac or Jacob. Moses was not called a Jew and neither were Saul, David or Solomon called Jew. In fact you will not find the word Jew in the first eleven books of the Bible. The first time Jews are mentioned in the Bible, is in II Kings 16:6 (and then only in translations revised in the eighteenth century) where we find Israel was at war with the Jews and drave the Jews from Elath. Isn’t it interesting that we can read over five hundred pages of the Bible before we find a Jew anywhere, yet those who call themselves Jew today claim the first five books of the bible and call it their Torah. Do you not find it rather strange that those who claim to have written the first five books of the Bible and call themselves Jew, can’t find the word Jew written anywhere in the book they call their own bible, and claim to have written? Jesus Christ tells John in Revelation 2:9 “I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews and are not, but are the SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN”. We know that God changed the name of Abram to Abraham in Genesis 17:5, and that He changed the name of Jacob to Israel in Genesis 32:28, but nowhere in the Bible do we find where God changed the name of Israel to Jew! There is therefore no authority by which those who say they are Jews can claim to be Israel!

        By the time of Jesus the word Edom or Edomite had been translated by Greek and Latin into Ioudaios and Iudaeus meaning a Judean or person living in Judea. The original King James version of the Bible, 1611, translated Idumaean-Judean into Iewes. It wasn’t until the revised editions of the King James Bible, that the word Jew appeared. The word Jew does not mean Israel or Israelite! We must conclude therefore that the first “Jews” were Canaanite-Edomite-Hittite. It is certain, according to the Bible, that Jews are not Israel.

      1. “Don’t throw your pearls to the swine ” I according to the scriptures know one thing. I first know there is a God. Second my God’s spirit will lead me into all truth. Third Jesus was God Manifested in the flesh. And we could go circles around this. God’s word, which only God’s spirit can reveal this to me. Is there is one name under heaven n earth by which man shall be saved. Jesus! ! But again I will not force, debate nor disagree with either of you. Only lead by example which is first n foremost! Love, without Love! All else is of no value. Jesus left example of Love! Thank you! N Blessings to all who hear!

      2. Is it true that all men are still expected to serve God? Sorry to answer a question with another question, but as far as God is concerned, His will has never changed from the beginning of time to the best of my recollection, so past tense would not be quite accurate. Just sayin’.

    3. The Koran teaches that “Allah has no son”
      The Bible teaches that “God so loved the world that he gave HIS ONLY SON”
      and that the ONLY way to God is Through Christ Jesus.

      sorry, calling a fence post “god” does not make it so.
      They are not the same, and we do not all serve the Same God.

  11. Prosperity message gosple,

    Jesus put it in the law saying “ye are Gods” so that he could later identify himself as God without committing Blasphemy. The last line of Psalm 82 clearly Identifies David was referring to Christ.

    Psalm 82:7-8 But ye shall die like a man, and ye princes shall fall like others. O God, arise, therefore judge thou the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

    Psalm 82
    John 10:34 Jesus answered them saying “Is it not written in your law, I said ye are Gods”.
    John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the father has sanctified, and sent into the world, thou blasphemest because I have said, I am the Son of God?
    John 10:37 If I do not the works of the father believe me not.

    If you walk the earth sinless before the lord call yourself a God. If not it’s probably not a good idea.

    1. Sorry to take up so much posting space but doesn’t psalm 82 seem to prophesy that the God who will judge the earth would be a prince and die like a man. Muslims believe the prophets but write off Jesus because he died like a man?
      Then Jesus said in John 10:37 If I do not the works of the father believe me not. What are the works of the father? The father sent us the prophets. So perhaps he meant if he did not fit the description of him in the prophesies believe him not. “ye are gods” is a loophole only he could fit through.

      1. Dear Ed.

        Shalom.

        Please never say sorry for posting comments on this blog. A true Christian can never get enough of Bible verses, quoted correctly to explain spiritual matters.

  12. Joel if I had not heared you my self ,I think you was a good Christian. But I did hear you say that Jesus was not the only way. So many who trust you will end up in hell because of your false teaching. I’m praying God will open your eyes to the truth.Jesus is the only way to God. The rest or wolves trying to sneek thou the back door. I can give you the site where you was on Larry King show saying this. And I use to watch you a lot ,but no more. Your Motivator only not a preacher . Start praying you become a preacher and less a motivator.

    1. I feel the same. I am very saddened to hear this from him. I too used to love to listen to him. What a waste and he will be judge more harshly. Hopefully he has instilled just enough for the spirit to take it from here 🙂

  13. I started posting a long time ago about this so called Preacher as a wolf in sheep clothing. 2Co 11:13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
    2Co 11:14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
    Back then most thought I was being a little to judgmental, but I believe now people are beginning to see the light when it comes to this FOOL!

  14. well i’m done watching his sermons….if he is this out of touch with reality…he can only lead us to our demise…. I for 1 will not go down easy….. wake up Joel…see things more clearly….you are in the publics eye……

  15. This story is so bazaar I wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t set up by the CIA, FBI, or some other entity with the sole purpose of fishing for fanatics. If it’s accurate, then Osteen has lost his credibility with me, but I’ll defer passing judgment until the truth be known. It’s dangerous when believing everything one reads on the Internet. Most of it, truth, or falsehood serves as food for thought in the quest for the truth.

  16. Never liked his feel-good form of Christianity…this does it for me….While Christians are being murdered all over the world……We need pastors who tell it like it is today…In the face of tyranny, a silent pulpit is as complicit pulpit….
    Ezekiel 33:6 ~ But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman’s hand.
    Our very best Patriots who formed this country were the preachers who would not be silenced and spoke liberty from their pulpits…and many paid with their lives.

  17. Obama has openly put down this nation saying it was no longer a Christian nation but one that has always supported Muslims. Obama is possessed of the spirit of Antichrist and is leading this nation right into the hands of the United Nations and giving it over to Islam. Obama is a Christian? Joel Osteen needs to listen to Obama just a little bit more and get your heads out of this deception.

  18. Muslims do not serve Almighty God as the Christians do. Muslims worship Allah/Lucifer. Why do you think they are commanded to kill both Jews and Christians? Lucifer commands them to. Obama is not a Christian but a Muslim. He is just as deceived as they are, being lead by the unholy spirit of the Antichrist and He is headed for a devil’s hell, unless he turns to Christ. Joel Osteen is wrong. http://youtu.be/XE9mZCRX2mg

  19. Is America a Christian Nation?

    Is America a Christian nation? From the writings of Columbus to the Mayflower Compact to the Declaration of Independence to the structure of the U.S. Constitution, America’s founders clearly applied Christian principles in the foundation of America.

    James Madison, the architect of the U.S. Constitution, stated, “Religion [is] the basis and Foundation of Government.” Madison was inspired by the Holy Bible in the formation of our three equal branches of government. He used Isaiah 33:22, “For the Lord is our Judge. The Lord is our Lawgiver. The Lord is our King. He will save us.” Through this verse, Madison formed the judicial, legislative, and executive branches of our government.

    The Declaration of Independence is the document that makes the U.S. Constitution legal. Of the 55 signers of the Declaration of Independence, 52 were deeply-committed Christians, some of whom were ministers. It was the same Congress that formed the American Bible Society, immediately after creating the Declaration of Independence. This document says that our rights come from “our Creator” (God) and the U.S. Constitution was signed “in the year of our Lord” 1787, after the Treaty of Paris was signed in 1783, ending the Revolutionary War, with the documented writing, “in the name of the Holy and undivided Trinity” (God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit).

    The very first act of the first congress was to bring in a minister and have congress led in prayer. The Continental Congress then voted to purchase and import 20,000 copies of scripture for the people of this nation. Afterward, four chapters of the Holy Bible were read.

    In 1892, the United States Supreme Court declared, “This is a Christian nation,” and “Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon the teachings of the Redeemer of Mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense, and to this extent, our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian.”

    After World War II, congress declared, “In God We Trust” on our currency. Christian holidays, Christmas and Thanksgiving, have been declared national holidays, and “one nation under God” is in our Pledge of Allegiance. The preamble to the state constitutions of every one of the 50 states in the United States makes an unapologetic declaration of God.

    References to God are engraved on numerous national monuments. On the Washington Monument, it is engraved on the aluminum capstone, the Latin phrase Laus Deo, which means “Praise be to God.” Lining the walls of the stairwell are carved tribute blocks that declare such Biblical phrases as “Holiness to the Lord” and “Search the Scriptures.” On the U.S. Capitol, in the House chamber is the inscription, “In God We Trust.” On the Supreme Court Building, in a number of places, are images of Moses with the Ten Commandments. When you enter the Jefferson Memorial, you will find many references to God. A quote that runs around the interior dome says, “I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the minds of man.”

    While liberals have tried to remove references to God and confuse people with misinterpretations, such as “separation of church and state,” this phase is not even in the U.S. Constitution. The phase “separation of church and state” was first written by President Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Baptist Association of Danbury in Connecticut. The founding fathers did not want a government run by a particular religion, as in the “Church of England,” where people could not worship freely. Therefore, a separation was intended to protect government from control by a religion and to protect religion from control by government, not to build a confrontational wall to keep government and religion separated.

    History shows that George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, and many of our other founding fathers established America as a Christian nation. Here are some of the recorded references of what they actually said:

    “God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever.” Thomas Jefferson, 1781

    “Suppose a nation in some distant region should take the Bible for their only Law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited … What a paradise would this region be.” John Adams, 1756

    “We have been assured, sir, in the sacred writings, that ‘except the Lord build the House, they labor in vain that build it’ I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel.” Benjamin Franklin, June 28, 1787

    “It is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the Providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and to humbly implore His protection and favor.” George Washington, October 3, 1789, who not only started the tradition of being sworn in as president with a Bible, but who knelt down and kissed the Bible. President George Washington later said, “It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible.”

    “Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.” Chief Justice John Jay, October 12, 1816

    With all this, President John Adams stated, “The Bible is the best book in the world,” and President Thomas Jefferson stated, “The Bible is the source of Liberty.”

    These are just a few of the several hundred documented quotes and writings of our founding fathers. If a president or politician made any of these statements today, the liberal media would viciously attack them as intolerant religious extremists, and liberal judges would accuse them of violating the very Constitution that they created. As President Dwight Eisenhower and, later, President Gerald Ford stated, “Without God there can be no American form of government nor an American way of life. Recognition of a Supreme Being is the first impression of Americanism. Thus, the founding fathers saw it, and thus, with God’s help, it will continue to be.”

    The historical record is clear. America is a Christian nation. As President Ronald Reagan once said, “If we ever forget that we’re one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.”
    Frank Aquila, December 2009

  20. Remember Jim and Tammy fay Baker. Greedy Christians. Obama is wrong and so is Joel Osteen. I believe Obama is Muslim. Only God knows their hearts for sure. We need to take care of our own here in the states and quit sending money to everyone overseas. It it right to bribe other countries with money so they will bring our friends. I was taught that bribery is wrong. Go figure… corruption is what it is. White House, senators all tell us what they are going to do for our country and when they get into office they let the power go to their heads. What a shame.

  21. I have spent the last six years fact checking, reading and understanding the context of President Obama’s comments, speeches, etc. The Christian right has repeatedly sent out e-mails with cut and pasted, out of context, subjects that have gone viral.
    Bearing false witness is an abomination before the Lord and I, as a Christian will say, that slander, false witness and the fear mongering that takes place in the name of our Lord and Savior, will be judged, for we will give an account of every word, which proceeds out of our mouth.

    I am going to beg you now as Christians, if you do not fact check and can not say for a fact that what you believe is truth, don’t repeat it.
    I started out as a Republican and began to see the pattern of pharisee judgement form our Evangelical memes. We will be held accountable.

    President Obama very eloquently wrote in his book of his conversion experience, as to how he knelt before the cross and asked for the blood of Christ to wash away all his sins and was baptized as a public confession of his faith, and read his bible every day with the ideal of following in the footsteps of Jesus, until the time constraints of campaigning kept him from daily reading it.

    A nation is judged by how it treats those without a voice, the poor, the hungry, the destitute and the stranger in her midst.

    1. So you choose to go to a party that believes in telling preachers who they can marry, that they want to see the preacher’s sermons. You believe in baby murder, you believe in so many things that obama has caused problems with here, the race baiting, the hatred. I can go on and on. You will have to give account for every word as well you know. There is nothing good about obama. I put him the category of Hitler. and you believe he really knelt before a cross, prayed, and publicly confessed. Boy are you gullible, and drawn to a wolf that will lie no matter. What he says is so twisted and untrue that it gives me a headache. I feel sorry for you. You believe what that Communist says. Pity you.

      1. Chloe (@cfabritus) Well said!!!!! You made me laugh out loud when you wrote, “and you believe he really knelt before a cross, prayed, and publicly confessed. Boy are you gullible, and drawn to a wolf that will lie no matter.” I could NOT have said it better myself. I too can NOT STAND to look at or listen to that Godless, arrogant, pompous, elitist, idiotic little snob, Obama!! I never liked Obama and never voted for the jerk either!!!

    2. If he is a Christian why did he say (and I heard him) that the Islamic prayer was the most beautiful prayer in the world. Another time as he was speaking he referred to the Islamic faith..as “my faith”…that is also on video. Also, did you see the book he was reading on “Post America” ? Why do we have the number of muslims in the White House we do now…when it was only after he came into the office ? On one video a young man introduced him as a great socialist who was going to revolutionize the world…that also is on video…I could go on, and on, but if one has a mindset a certain way there’s no sense in trying to change it. The Lord said to pray for “discernment of the Spirit”, and the Holy Spirit will let you know the truth. Many people will say “I’m a Christian”, and never open their Bible to study the Word of God. Once one repents of their sins, asks Jesus to come into their hearts, and begins to Live for Him their entire live changes. That’s why it is call a “rebirth”. Jesus said; “I Am the Way, and No Man Cometh to the Father, but through Me”…..This will be discovered at the “Great White Throne Judgement” when God says; I find not your name in the Lambs Book of Life. Knowing the Lord gives a peace, love, and happiness that only can come through Him…and; the World can’t give it to one, and the World can’t take it away…for which I am very thankful. Jesus said; “Come out from the World, and be a Separate people, and my people will be a peculiar people”….Jesus loves everyone; those who are truly born again, and those who are not, but He hates sin. The book of Isaiah, and the book of Revelation brings the ending together once read. I know Jews who have accepted the Lord as their Savior, and the ones I know were totally unaware of the new Testament …and once they read it, their eyes were opened that; Yes, He truly was, and is Jesus…..because the Old Testament is the Shadow of things to come to pass as stated in the New Testament. Since Jesus died for our sins at Calvary, we no longer live Under the Law, but Under Grace for which we are truly so Blessed. I didn’t mean to get on a role, but there’s nothing like being in the Presence of God, and the Holy Spirit. It isn’t about emotions, but so Blessed, and Thankful I can feel the Presence of the Lord. Just pray that more will be saved before it’s too late. Truly believe God is about to turn to His Son; Jesus, and say; “Son, go get my Children”….those who are dead in Christ; (my sweet son is one of them) will rise first, and we who are in Christ Jesus will meet Him in the air. This time His feet will not touch the earth….The Tribulation will start…..(I won’t go into all of that…however, it is in Revelations)…and then He Will Return to Earth to set up His Kingdom…..Read where John says…….”and I, John, saw the New Jerusalem coming down from out of Heaven….. “….If that doesn’t want people to accept Jesus, repent of their sins, and live for Him, nothing will.. He does tell us in the last days; Love will wax cold, there will be wolves in sheep clothing, men will have itching ears, and will not listen to “sound doctrine”, and there will be a falling away. Jesus will not leave one, but one has the freedom to turn their back on the Lord, and walk away from Him.. There is a Heaven to Gain, and a Hell to Shun for sure. May God Richly Bless, and may we pray diligently, seek the face of the Lord as never before for surely, we are sailing in trouble waters right here in America….Land that I love with all of my heart. May we all pray for the President, and everyone who is in Leadership of this Country that they will seek the face of the Lord as many of our forefathers did prior to making decisions.

  22. The second I saw Obama on t.v. back in 2008, I knew it was time for heavy duty praying. He is a Muslim. They are not the same as Christians.
    I thought there was something sinister in his eyes. I felt evil through my t.v. screen.
    It’s 2014. I think he’s proved me right.
    He has mocked the Holy Bible and a lot were blind to it.

  23. YAHWEH LINCOLN PARK MINISTRY, HILO, HAWAII
    OSTEEN WORKS FOR SATAN JUST LIKE OBAMA; BOTH ARE PAVING THE WAY FOR THE ANTICHRIST’S COMING.

  24. Any man who claims his goodness calls God a liar. Joal osteen proclaims obama a good man. No one is good, but one, God. Good deeds we do, and well we do. Good? No.

    1. I am appalled that Osteen would say this. How can a man of God believe that what Obama is doing is o.k. No man of God can support someone that has taken a great nation and turned it into a broken ton country. he is encouraging racial division, lies, believe in abortion and ruin the economy and health care of a once great nation. I will no longer follow Mr Osteen.

  25. Your website is ZIONIST!!!! ICK. EVIL. I agreed with most of this article (I CANNOT STAND Osteen!) until i read this:

    “The Koran … has deleted the Covenant people, the offspring of Isaac and Jacob. In Islam, there in not place for Jews, nor Christians who claims to have been saved by a Son of King David, the Jewish Messiah Jesus of Nazareth.”

    That was just wrong. The KORAN IS full of errors, yes, but to say it “deleted the covenant people”???? Uhhhhhh…. NO.

    The ONLY covenant people are those who belong to Jesus … not so-called “jews”.

    Your website article was disgusting — to read you pick on Osteen, yet you STILL HAVE your own sins and flaws right there in that same article! 😦

    1. Romans 2:28
      For no one is a jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision
      outward and physical. 29. But a Jew is is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the spirit, not the letter.his praise is not
      from man but from God.
      According to the word their should be no question who are Jews.
      The answer is simple, All who are in Christ. It is these who have received spiritual circumcision in accordance to the spirit of the law,
      and not the letter. Jesus is King of his people, Jews. Anyone who is in Christ is a Jew. These are the people of God,and these and only these are heirs to the promise. No one else.
      God said so

      1. Reading Romans nine, ten and eleven. Those who except Yeshua as Savior and L-rd that they know HE is G-d is grafted into the Jewish Olvie tree..ISRAEL..how can the phoney churches full of lies say they replaced the Jews and they are forgotten. All liars will have their place in the lake of fire. i heard Joyce Myers say gee..i did not read that one scripture where it says that the Jews were blinded so us hearten could becomes sons of G-d. so she said after that. we are gods, with a little G..how sick, and Osteen like most an those who are now under the catholic cult are prosperity preachers. the name it and claim it. I saw Osteen on TV with Larry King and others say. when asked , you mean Joel if I dont except Yeshua as G-d then I am going to hell. and Osteen said, I don’t know, I am not G-d. but he denied G-d because He could have been honest and said YES , He is the way the truth and the life and NO ONE comes to the Father except thru Yeshua. He denies Yeshua all the time and now it is ok by him and his wife to blaspheme G-d. that is a unforgiveable sin. the road to hell is broad, the narrow road is straigt and not many find it. and those who did know and get out of the ditch and onto the narrow road, and then fall off into the other side into the ditch have become the sons of hell. the bible tells us that..how sad that so many aretaken up with churches who do not preach the word in truth..and all the prophets died for telling the truth as Christ died for us while we were still sinners. what love, such wondereous love ..where as mohammand said there god said to kill. and how evil that people just don’t see how HE CAMe in LOVE, but is coming back with JUSTICE and the sword. our Yeshua has given us all and what must we do to be saved. just believe and give your life to hIM and live it, walk in it. how I love HIM..

  26. You people are NUTS. Islam, Judaism and Christianity are all ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS. Do anyone know or understand what that means? They are ALL religions of PEACE. In fact, Islam was first to start the movement of equality for women, especially in regards to education-followed then by Judaism, then Christianity. You are all praying to the SAME God! The Koran is just another name for THE BIBLE. It is the EXTREMISTS for these religions, who give the religions their bad names. Just as you all, who claim to be followers of the all loving CHRIST, whose cruelty and judgement taint the rest of the followers of your faith, giving CHRISTIANITY a BAD name.

    1. A, Islam is in no way related to Christianity or Judaism, neither is the God of Islam the same God. I think you ought to pour a glass of scotch, light a cigar and start reading the Koran cover to cover as I have. You’ll note the lack of peace, the lack of tolerance, the hate and the extreme religiosity that it empowers. The Old and New Testament is actually a blueprint to have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ. Humans are not perfect, but 2 Corinthians 3:17 says, “Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. And we all with unveiled face receiving and reflecting the glory of the Lord into the same image are being transformed from glory into glory, even as from the Spirit that is Lord.” Being in the presence of the Lord, we are changed into the Spirit of His love. The Koran, on the other hand, is a blueprint of does and don’t and condemnation and hatred, with no real relationship being establish, but creates a pharisaic culture of death.

    2. A, you said, “In fact, Islam was first to start the movement of equality for women, especially in regards to education…” Yeah, right!! Islam, that WONDERFUL, peaceful religion that stones women, rapes women, beats women, beheads anyone at the drop of a hat and has sex with goats and God only knows what other animals!!! You’re NUTS!!!!

    3. You have forgotten – Abram, as the Muslims call him, was from Ur, a pagan Babylonian city that has no connection to God. When Abram and his wife were called out by God, he went through a transformation, and entered into a covenant with God (Genesis 15-17), and became Abraham. He was not a Jew, or any other organized religion. The Bible plainly states Ishmael, and his mother, were sent away, as he was not the legitimate heir. I will not recap the whole story, just tell you this fact: The word “Allah” comes from the compound Arabic word, al-ilah, a Sumerian/Babylonian moon god. That is not the same God of the Bible. As a matter of fact, the Qur’an , written in the 7th century, was born out of a violent movement led by a very corrupt man. When they conquered Mecca, they killed everyone who refused to follow them. That is the big difference – they do not convert, but conquer and intimate. Their’s is not a god of love, but violence and death – in the N.T., 1 John, it plainly states God is love, and is life, not death. Islam, which I have studied, is not a “Abrahamic” religion. They claim roots to Abram, not Abraham, though his illegitimate son, Ishmael. Problem there is, there is no evidence whatsoever that there was any connection between him, and the so-called ‘prophet’, Mohammed, who invented that ‘religion’ in 645 A.D. It seems they want to rewrite history, yet lack any substance. We know people of God not by their works or words alone, but by their walk with Him. As for ‘Christianity’, that is a widely used word, often incorrectly, describing religionists. Actual Bible believing disciples/followers of Chris, or more correctly Yeshua, will note that the word ‘Christian’ is used only three times in the N.T., twice in Acts, 11:26 and 26:28, and once in 1 Peter 4:16. They did not call themselves that, but Agrippa called them that in a derogatory way, and the title was used mostly by non-believers. In summary, your ‘one world religion’ theory is extremely mistaken, and we do not pray to the same God. Jesus taught us there is only one way to salvation – through Him. He also taught “I and the Father are one”. Do not be deceived. God’s blessings!

  27. I think you all need to re-read what Joel Osteen said. He did not say President Obama was a Christian…. his wife did. She definitely has said things in the past that are off the path. You can’t judge a man to be a Christian by what his wife says. If you were to jugde him by his fruit, I would say he is a Christian(Joel). This is how you are to judge people. I agree President Obama does not bare good fruit, so your conclusion is closer to be accurate.

    1. Kathy,

      In 2008, Osteen had the audacity to say Jesus was not the only way. He has contradicted the Word of God many times over. He’s also stated that there are many paths to Jesus.

      John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

      In one interview, Joel is asked by Oprah: “Will gay people be accepted into heaven – as you see it?”

      Osteen said, “Well, I believe they will, because I believe you know that we have to have forgiveness for our sins, but sometimes we look at being gay as a bigger sin than being proud, or…not telling the truth. I don’t think God categorizes sins.”

      Do you notice his twisting of words? When he should have simply stated the truth, and this is with any sin: Luke 13:3 No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.

      Joel Osteen is not a Christian, and all he continues to do is spread lies.

  28. As far as Jesus being God Jesus said in John 10:30 I and my father are one. Which means one and the same. No Christian could support any kind of abortion and be called a Christian. Our president has no real knowledge on how to run a country little less about Christ. If a person was truly saved by grace thru faith as the bible says in Ephesians 2:8&9 they could not support some of the ungodly ways our president does and arming our enemy is a low point in life. I have many doubts about Osteen even being saved and according to the book of 1st Timothy chapter 3 she does not fit the qualification of a preacher unless she is really a man in a dress. God calls men not women to preach the gospel and I choose to believe God’s word on that subject as the bible says let God be true and every man a liar. Again I doubt Osteen is saved let alone him being a judge of who is or is a Christian. A Christian is one who stands for the truth of God’s word

  29. He is the biggest creep that phoneyreliegion has ever seen!! Makes me want to throw up!! But he is the same quality sick liar that obama is, they
    Vare both mentally deranged!!

  30. Joel Osteen must be on drugs!! I find Obama to be a lying, deceitful, arrogant, pompous, treasonous, snob, who literally HATES America and the American People!!! Joel, Osteen has just destroyed his credibility, just like Obama has destroyed his!! Remember, Obama said, “We are no longer a Christian nation!” Obama BANNED the displaying of The Ten Commandments to the public! Obama BANNED prayer in schools! Obama is FOR same-sex marriage and Obama is FOR abortions!!! ALL OF THESE THINGS SPIT IN THE FACE OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  31. This definitely is a case where Mr. Osteen should think before saying things such as this, especially about a race baiter, a muslim, a person trying to destroy this country, and guess what Joel, religious freedom. Please spare us from your opinion.

  32. If Joel would read the king James bible it had baraq Obama in there had being the antichrist.apparently he needs to read up..

  33. The “date” of the article is 29JUNE2009………..? Over 5 years ago. Time no longer has meaning. Interesting thoughts, after all that’s happened since then, there’s no way!! The fuze to the powder keg is lit, it will blow soon. Went to the range yesterday, put 200 down range, Practice, Practice!!!! Easy 4″ groups at 30feet! The radio was playing an old Stones tune, “War…Children,////It’s just a ‘Shot away!!!'” Obie is a Christian??? Who you tryin’ to kid?????
    God, Guns and Guts Keep America Free,
    III%,
    skybill-out

  34. This article really bothered me as well, until I read the original posted date of 2009. All the comments are more current, as of this year. A lot has changed in five years. We had hoped for much more and have watched as situations have gotten worse. Lies and more lies. Coverups. Corporations with oppressive powers. Our freedoms are being eroded, our stance on Israel is wrong and Kerry is hapless, the economy, health care and taxes. Beyond all that in government, corrupt ministries can’t be trusted either. It’s indeed a dark time.

  35. Reblogged this on Sallys Political Page and commented:
    Just one more reason that I do NOT watch him! What an IDIOT! Obama is NOT a Christian, and he sure as hell is NOT a good one or is doing a good job!! He is a STUPID as all the other TV evangelists trying to suck people dry of their money! Barack HUSSEIN Obama has PROVEN that he works for satan. And…those preachers who allow the muslim devils to come into their churches and preach are ALSO working for satan!! Hope he goes broke for LYING and standing up for someone that works for the DEVIL!!

    1. YAHWEH LINCOLN PARK MINISTRY, HILO, HAWAII:
      I agree 100% with your assessment of Kenyan born moslem obama for he was indeed illegally placed into the White House by American traitors and America’s foreign enemies and phony Christians like osteen also work for the coming antichrist just like moslem Obama.

  36. Wow!
    I suppose hell claim Oprah is a saint, Al Sharpton is just “misunderstood”, and Planned MURDERhood has nothing but “good intentions.”

  37. I have watched Rev. Osteen numerous times, and although I think he feels he is preaching God’s word, he leaves a great deal of truth out of his sermons. Having a positive attitude is truly a wonderful possession, and to know God, is to know love, but life cannot always be happy, happy, happy. God did not promise there would be no trials and tribulations, but he did promise he would never leave or forsake us. I think the Bible’s truths and many of it’s teachings get put on the back burner during Rev. Osteen’s sermons. I am truly not trying to judge anyone; God does not give us that privilege or authority. However, I feel Rev. Osteen is not being true to himself or God to say that President Obama is a Christian. There is little proof that supports that statement…but I hope he is right. We, as a nation, have allowed everything to overrule God and his teachings. This country was established on the principles of Christianity, and we best not forget that. It’s time for us to get back to basics, and quit worrying about being politically correct…whatever that means. The best thing Rev. Osteen can do is stay out of politics and preach God’s Word truthfully.

  38. Joel Osteen said, “Obama is a Christian doing a good job.” Well, if that were true, then tell me why Obama got on TV and said, “We are NOT a Christian nation.” Why did Obama BAN the displaying of The Ten Commandments and who does Obama think he is to deny MY RIGHT to view The Ten Commandments? Why did Obama BAN prayer in schools and if Obama is such a good little Christian, why would he do that? If Obama is such a Christian (pardon my laughter) why is he FOR same-sex marriage?? Why is our Christian President (pardon my sarcasm) FOR abortions?? ALL of these things, that Mr. Christian has done, SPIT IN THE FACE OF GOD!!

    This SO-CALLED Christian wants to eventually confiscate our guns, because he said it would save lives, but Mr. Christian forgets that HE is guilty of killing over 5-million babies when he authorized ABORTIONS!!! Obama is about as Christian as a dog turd in my yard!!

  39. Political connection or future political positioning! SHAMEFUL!

    My dear friend is a new Christian and loves Joel Osteen! After reading this my friend asked me “So How much of his teachings are BS? He is obviously has a keen talent to deliver what people want to hear! He is out of touch or has an ALARMING hidden political agenda!” Needless to say, I had very little to defend Joel Osteen!

  40. Even Obama says he’s a Muslim so that leads me to believe that Joel Osteens is an idiot! The Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits – Joel Osteen’s fruits suggest he is clueless about Obama and more so on scripture. Obama blatantly states that he’s a Muslim and his actions reinforce that every day, thus his fruits give him away. Don’t be fooled by false doctrine — “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” (‭Matthew‬ ‭7‬:‭21-23‬ KJV)

  41. Yes Obama is wrong in the ways in which he speaks of abortion and gay marriage but who are we to judge Obama? Joel O’Steen is speaking positive about the president of the nation that we live in!! if he believes Obama is a Christian that means he believes that Obama believes in Jesus Christ…no Christian is perfect including all of us!! The number one thing as Christians that we need to focus on is love, not bashing our president!! how un-American!! it doesn’t matter if you can’t stand the president why would you go on a rampage saying mean things about him? that is definitely not being a Christian and a sin is a sin no matter if it’s having an abortion or tearing somebody down on a social media site…sin is sin. I don’t prefer to listen/watch Joel O’Steen either and definitely do not plan on voting for Obama for a second term (because I didn’t the first time)but to talk that way about Joel osteen for making a simple comment is unintelligent and wrong. And Joel O’Steen is a prosperity preacher but I guarantee you he has touched somebody out there by speaking the word of God. Listen to what you’re saying people and stop being hypocrites!!!

    1. Danielle, You wrote, “The number one thing as Christians that we need to focus on is love, not bashing our president!! how un-American!!”

      Well, I consider it UN-AMERICAN and UN-CHRISTIAN for a President to LIE to the American People about him being a Christian, to BAN Prayer in schools, to BAN my RIGHT to view The Ten Commandments, to PROMOTE Abortions, to PROMOTE Same-Sex Marriage!! All of those spit in the face of God!! Obama spewed ALL HIS LIES about ObamaCare, telling us the Mexican Border is safe and secure!! I could go on and on and on!!! I DON’T respect ANYONE who lies!!

      I was raised to call a spade a spade!!! Joel Osteen apparently is an IDIOT and with that quizzical grin on his face, I’d swear he’s either on drugs or a former used car salesman!! He’s a preacher and he’s SUPPOSED to tell the truth, not candy coat it with B.S.!!

    2. Danielle, I am confused about something you said in your post. You said you do not plan on voting for Obama for a second term. ???? He was voted in for a second term in 2012 and cannot run again. Thank God!! How much more can our country take of this president before it goes under? Having an informed opinion about the president, and speaking about it, even if it is negative, is not a sin. However, I get the feeling that you are objecting to the name calling and mean things being said, and there I agree with you. I would like to challenge people to quit “bashing” and put forth their opinions in a respectful way.

      Here is my respectful opinion of Mr. Obama:
      He has been caught in many lies, therefore I do not believe what he says anymore. He shows obvious favoritism towards Islam, in many instances. Maybe he is a Muslim, or maybe he just wants to keep peace with everyone. After all, they did give him the Nobel Peace Prize. One thing is certain, his actions speak louder than his words and his actions have caused many to doubt his Christianity, but only God knows for sure.

      Christians, let us pray for our country fervently, as there are so many evils trying to tear us apart, and only God can save us.

  42. IMO- Joel Osteen is a “Feel Good” Pastor whose primary purpose is to say what he thinks people want to hear. I have listened to his sermons dozens of times, so I base my perspective on what my experience has been. Perhaps the comment he made about Obama is a declaration of what he wants to come to pass, not what is! What is loosed on earth is loosed in Heaven, therefore this declaration is wishful thinking. I do not agree with his statement that Obama IS A CHRISTIAN MAN! Nor do I beleive that Obama cares about AMERICA! He rarely puts his hand over his heart during the National Anthem, does not salute our dedicated Soldiers, nor does he show respect to Our Founding Fathers Declaration of Independence! Americans are being stripped of our Constitutional Rights and Christian & Jewish beliefs at an alarming rate! The Muslim Koron has been quoted by Obama on more occasions than The Holy Bible (and misquoted several times). Our Nation has been compromised by this WOLF IN SHEEP’S CLOTHING! Anyone who believes & supports this, has been brainwashed, mislead and sadly lead astray!

  43. Im giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are intelligent people and the fact you believe in god and that he should be a part of our political process scares the hell outta me.

  44. If Joel and Victoria spoke truth then they would loose some of their congregation. Dare they do the unspeakable? We Christians are spoken of in the Bible as a remnant compared to all the people that have ever lived. Oh, Joel is a great motivational speaker to the masses but we (the church) are not the masses.

  45. Sick of the bearing false witness folks. God speaks of it in his ten commandments. I’ve spent six years fact checking the viral e-mails that people assume are truth because they come from some “christian” page.
    This stuff is easily fact checked from saluting to placing his hand over his heart, to his writing about kneeling before the cross to ask for the blood of Christ to cover all his sins because we are all sinners and in need of forgiveness and his statement that he read his bible daily.
    http://www.factcheck.org/2008/06/obamas-dreams-of-my-father/

    You don’t have to like his policies. But you will give an answer for every word that proceeds from your mouths and God is very clear about how we treat those in authority over us, as well as being tale bearers, bearing false witness and judging the hearts of others.

    Confirmation bias and Belief Perseverance is what the right counted on when it bedded the religious right in exchange for the “large tract of virgin timber voters, evangelical’s pro-life vote. It costs nothing to be a pro-life candidate and it seems to absolve Evangelicals from any other stewardship of their vote.

    1. In the book of Revelation, John received vision & instruction by God to write to the seven churches. He commends them for their strengths and warns them about their flaws. We are ALL SINNERS, but those who are in power are not selected by the people nor do they deserve to be respected! Their sins are leading MILLIONS OF PEOPLE INTO SIN! Politics are a struggle for power and reverence (do you pray to OBAMA?) I DONT & NEVER WILL! However, I will hate the sin and pray for the sinner!

  46. Lovinliberal, You wrote, “…God is very clear about how we treat those in authority over us…”

    I get the impression that you believe that God expects the American people to believe, trust and honor a so-called President, JUST BECAUSE HE IS THE PRESIDENT that has lied, been deceptive, is corrupt and crooked on a grand scale. You think that we should just blatantly follow this lying sack of Muslim scum like a herd of sheep. Maybe Obama should have EARNED this so called respect by telling the truth, being up front and not being corrupt or crooked. He made his bed and now he can sleep in it!!! I swear to God, if Obama’s mouth is open, it’s a lie coming out!! He has NO CREDIBILITY WITH ME!!!

    I don’t worship or honor ANYONE that has lied to me, regardless of what you said about God!!

  47. Im sorry but i question anyones sincerity of claiming their a believer but then mocks the sermon on the mount which obama has done.

  48. GOD is big business. Joel Osteen is going to do and say whatever he has to in order to protect his own extravagant lifestyle. Joel Osteen is a demon who uses GOD to lead and corral people into giving their hard earned money to him. I believe people like him will be fed into the fires of Hell feet first.

    “And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.”

  49. How can a so called Minster stand up and say Obama is Christian. When he was raised an Muslim. Has shown his favoritism to Islamic world????? Makes you wonder if these Mega Church Ministers are in it for the money..Hmm Didn’t the Rev Bakker go to prison and was a so called minister.. I do not trust them AT ALL !!!!!!!!!!!

  50. Yes, and if I made 10 million a year, living in a mansion pretending the world is a great place and that some unseen force is watching over us all, I’d be walking around on the pink cloud too.

  51. Pretty much ALL mega-church pastors are more politician than pastor. They give their people what they WANT to hear rather than the TRUTH that would set them free. Christians were never promised prosperity in this world but rather trouble and persecution–by Our Lord Himself. And so it has been for the last nearly 2,000 years. There have been 70,000,000 Christian martyrs in that time—many of the true believers were martyred by the Roman church but also many by the followers of other religions. And so it goes today. There is an alarming rise in persecution (as verified by non-Christian sources) and martyrdom of Christians in the world today–mostly in the countries controlled by Islam but also in other places like North Korea and China. I bet you’ll never hear Joel Osteen talk about that fact.

  52. If there is one thing I have learned over just the last few years, its that it is easy to be deceived. You can believe something that is taught in the church for years and it happens not to be true. For instance, I for the longest time believe that Jesus Christ could come through the clouds at any moment because that is what I was taught in the church. Until I did a full study of the rapture. I noticed that in Matthew 24:29-31 Jesus actually tells us when He would come back. I also learned that before 1830 there was no teaching on the pre-tribulation rapture. What I am saying is we need to pray for everyone who calls themselves Christian. Though we may not agree all are Christians. We can certainly pray for God to save them and change them for His glory. The Apostle Paul was a prime example. He was considered a vicious christian killer. It took a while for many Christians to believe he could change, but he did by the power of God.

    1. Dear Norman.

      Shalomm and love in Jesus.

      You wrote:

      I also learned that before 1830 there was no teaching on the pre-tribulation rapture.

      My reply:

      I agree. There is not a single verse in the Bible that says the Church will be raptured before the Great tribulation. This is a man made doctrine, followed by people who protect the Papacy. They forbid people to bell the antichrist. They say the antichrist can only be reveled after the Church has left the face of the Earth. This is damnable lie.

      1. Ivar, I fully agree with your comment, moreover the rapture is a contradictio in terms, in doesn’t make sense to show the antichrist when the Church has left the face of the Earth, to whom will it be reveald, to the anti-christians when the Church is taken away? Well, I gues they don’t care that much.
        All souls alive, including the antichrist, will see the Lord coming back

      2. Dear Erwin.

        Shalom, and love in Jesus.

        The pre-trib doctrine contradict it self. The idea that the Holy Spirit has to leave the Earth (be taken away), before the antichrist can be reveled. If so, how can people get saved inside the Great Tribulation without the saving grace of the Holy Spirit available?

        Another funny side of the pre-trib doctrine, is that secular Israel shall be left behind but enabled to battle the antichrist, and eventually get resqued and saved. And not only shall secular Israel battle the antichrist, but also preach the gospel to the nations..!!

        Some obvious questions arise:

        1. Was not the Great Tribulation suposed to be a punishment, God’s wrath on all who are left behind?

        2. How can secular people: A. Get saved. B. Learn the gospel. C. Preach the gospel, without having the power of the Holy Spirit?

        To be able to answer these question, the pre-tribers will have to jump around, taking several scriptures out of context, in a bid to prove what is simply not written.

  53. If Obama believes in any God, it is definitely not the God of the Bible, if he is not the devil (or Satan), he is certainly one of his BEST deceivers. The very fact that he claims to be a Christian proves that he is a deceiver. He has made more progress at the devils causes than any other person in America while destroying our way of in America. His intention was to make us a 3rd world country and has done everything possible to make that happen,

    1. Bobbie, what you wrote is SPOT ON ACCURATE!!! That is EXACTLY how I view Obama too. I tend to think of Obama as BOTH the Anti-Christ and Hitler all rolled into one maggot!! I’ve called and emailed my U.S. Senators, my U.S. Representative, The White House and literally written letters to ALL nine Justices on what I refer to as The U.S. Supremely Arrogant Court!! If you are wondering why I got after the U.S. Supremely Arrogant Court, it is because they work in a building adorned with all kinds of Christian symbols and yet they COMPLETELY IGNOR GOD and what it STATES IN THE BIBLE when they make decisions on abortion and gay marriage!! The U.S. Supremely Arrogant Court and Obama have made laws that SPIT IN THE FACE OF GOD!!

  54. Got nothin better to do than slander and divide? Thought you had a bigger God than that. Youre a small man gettin snaller.

  55. Obama is in no way a Christian, he has on many occasions said, that some of the old testament is lies written by men who wanted to control, he has said the stupid koran, is the most beautiful words he has ever heard, he has said no country could be govern by the Bible, but has never put down the way the koran is used to kill, destroy others and steal, so this Joel Osteen is a nut job, who flatters with sweet words, that mean nothing, but death to the soul!!!!!

  56. Oct. 26th, 2015: Jeremiah Wright:”I helped Obama accept Christianity without Renouncing Islam
    “Klein asked, “Do you think he [Obama] ever thought of himself as a Muslim?” To which Wright replied, “Yep, yep, yep, and that was this thing, I’m sure he got some grief, not proselytising grief, but grief from that part of his family, just from, and I say that based on my wide range of Muslim friends.” ; “Klein asked Wright if he converted Obama from being a Muslim into a Christian. He said, “I don’t know about that. but I can tell you that I made it easy for him to come to an understanding of who Jesus Christ is and not feel that he was turning his back on his Islamic friends and his Islamic traditions and his understanding of Islam,” Wright said.”
    http://www.israelislamandendtimes.com/obamas-former-pastor-i-helped-obama-accept-christianity-without-having-to-renounce-islam/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork

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