The Stigmata: Mystical Wounds or Demonic Deceptions?

Why is it that the only “Christians” that receive the “Stigmata” are Catholic? Are these marks “holy” or the complete opposite?

Stigmatist Padre Pio's hands bleeding during Mass. He is now dead and many people pray to him to answer their prayers hoping for a miracle.

I have never heard of born-again Christians having the bloody wounds of Christ. This is because they have accepted Jesus’ free gift of salvation without having to rely on themselves to get to heaven for being “good.”

Saved sinners know exactly what they’ve been saved from. They know there is NOTHING they can do to save themselves. No ritual, no perfect prayer, no good work, no nice deed and no perfect church attendance can save a sinner. Only the blood of Jesus can save. When we accept Christ’s finished work on the cross for us, light meets darkness and we are made new. We can’t take a rag and clean our own souls, only the blood of  Lamb can make us clean and white as snow.

The Catholic Church says that those who have the stigmata are ultra holy and have mystical union with God. They have reached a higher plain of intimacy with Jesus, than the average Christian. Because of there unique union with Jesus, they can bear the marks of Jesus on their body.

Let’s take a look at some Stigmatists:

Therese Neumann spent many days in bed, bleeding from the 'wounds of Christ.' She is said to have lived on only one eucharistic host per day for 12 years without food or water.

Myrna Nazzour of Damascus suffering for the sins of the world.

You can watch this young married woman tortured by spirits here:

Back in the day, I would’ve thought she must have been super holy. This woman, surrounded by idols and icons is under demonic attack. Jesus came to heal the sick and deliver the oppressed. He did not come to make people sick, make them suffer for other people’s sins (as if His blood was insufficient) and give them holy wounds to pay for the sins of the world. What blasphemy is this. Lying signs and wonders.

If you are caught up in following these tortured people thinking you must be like them to win God’s favor, repent and turn to Jesus of Nazareth. The ‘jesus’ they worship is a different ‘jesus.’

Jesus said not to let anyone know you are suffering when fasting.


Matthew 6:6-18

 “When you fast, do not look somber as the hypocrites do, for they disfigure their faces to show others they are fasting. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.  But when you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face,  so that it will not be obvious to others that you are fasting, but only to your Father, who is unseen; and your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

If He felt this way about fasting and how important it is not to parade your suffering, why would He give bloody wounds for people to worship and revere? Do these wounds portray the Gospel? No, they negate it by adding to the cross of Christ.

Written by Sue

170 responses to “The Stigmata: Mystical Wounds or Demonic Deceptions?

  1. The closer we get to the return of our Lord Jesus Christ the more hideous demonic activity is being revealed, TV is hard to watch so much it’s easier just to read a book ..the radio is really not much better, just the wow factor of not being able to see…and the computer is getting so much worse.

  2. I know a priest who copy-cat tried to be like St. Pio (1st photo) imitating him in the stigmata, prophesy, odor of roses, etc…current Pope has him confined in n. Italy & is not allowed to do public ministry.

    I know Pio is canonized a saint…curious about Therese Neumen & this Myrna? – has RCC approved them? Etc?

    • It would be wise to focus on Christ in your Protestantism inlieu of attacking our Catholic Church.
      Also research where the you got your bible from–start with the Latin Vulgate-the ORIGINAL bible. Check out the 38 volumes of letters from the early church fathers & what faith they belonged to. BTW–Protestantism is 16th century to present. Catholicism is 1st century to present. If you do not believe the !st century Catholic church is the true church–please name JUST ONE 1st century Christian church still in existance today–visible roots & no gaps please,

      • Cmgerace,

        Your catholic church will not get you into heaven. Those that believe in Mary as a “queen”, bow down to statues, kiss dead people’s bones, and follow a sinner like the pope, this only leads you into the wide gates of hell.

        And this fakeness of wounds is very much by demons.

        1 Corinthians 10:20-21 No, I imply that what pagans sacrifice they offer to demons and not to God. I do not want you to be participants with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons.

      • Cmgerace,

        You forget the Jews.

        And biblical faith has existed from and before the time of Jesus’ birth. It is with great joy I put my faith in Jesus alone! Great joy!

        Kay

      • Ummm… Just a heads up.
        Sacred Scripture (the bible) wasn’t compiled until a few centuries A. D. so the Jews did not use the bible.

        The followed the Torah a.k.a the pentateuch

      • Catholicism is not first century, it was initially brought in by the Emperor Constantine in early in the early 300’s almost 300 years after the the very first Christian believers and Constantine corrUpted the word of GOD and the gospel by combining the pagan worship with that of the believers in YESHUA

      • something being first simply means its the original…it has nothing to do with true..No servant should be speaking against Christ and his teaching or acknowledging foolishness (When you die you go to heaven) ..when you die you are dead until Christ Judges you. There is no exception to this. So somehow this idea of being saints and being able to do help when they are dead..its a bit bizarre.

  3. YIKES!! This looks more like the Amityville Horror house and photos of the family that lived inside who were terrorized by demons than something “holy”!

    Nowhere in the Bible does it say that true Christians should seek out people who start bleeding out of their eyeballs and hands for no apparent reason and then join that church. This is nothing more than the sick, evil, despicable workings of demons.

    The deceived members, promoters and those who “tolerate” and “defend” the Roman Catholic Church, those who claim to be spirit filled Christians but say it is okay to pray the rosary “once in awhile” or find it acceptable to have pictures of mary in your home, will give an account to the King of Kings one day soon, and all the pathetic excuses which they cling to so tightly will be burned up along with all of their rewards at the BEMA seat.

    The propagation of this sick, satanic deception to prove that Catholics and the pope are the “true, sacred church” is a hideous farce. Those who spend time with Jesus and His Holy Spirit can see right through it.

    For those who allow themselves, by either generational curses, demonic activity, ignorance, or just refusal to listen to God in this matter and have made their choice to approve of this fallen apostate “religion”– for those who hang on to the traditions of family rather than to do as Jesus said and to and that is to leave mother, father, sister, brother and follow ONLY JESUS — I pray the Lord opens your eyes.

    Nothing short of renouncing this blasphemous lie will do in the eyes of Jesus. He has told us in His message to the seven churches that if you are lukewarm He will spit you out of his mouth.

    A rosary and a statue of mary is LUKEWARM. Don’t fool yourself. Your eternity, rewards, and ruling and reigning with Christ are at stake. Make the necessary changes NOW!

    • Dear Sue.

      Shalom.

      This is a great article, and hopefully many Catholics will read this, and repent.

      The issue of “false miracles” are not miracles that do not take place, and presented by people who are liars. False Miracles do take place, and contradict the scriptures. Just like false teachings contradict the scriptures, often in the name of “Jesus”. Occult and false miracles are often linked to stories about Catholic Mary appearing to people as a “ghost”, telling them she is the Mother of God, and that Catholics must stay put in the Vatican.

      I still feel some of the stigmata stories have been made up. But curses can obviously manifest them selves physically, a bid by Satan to lead people into deeper bondage to occult death cults like the Roman Catholic Church.

      • Just curious, Why isn’t there as many or as much detailed about the other ‘cults’ that influence so many people for generations? I mean this by no disrespect to the ones who give us these articles for they are very enlightening to say the very least. Yet as The Word of God speaks on a variety of demonic spirits that is easily seen as the ones ruling many denominations so easily accepted as ‘Christians’ when they lead many away and/or hinder many seeking The Truth. Just asking…for even Pat Robinson said “a Mormon running for President of the USA is a very good Christian”…I’ve been waiting for his apology on this for this time he really needs to apologize! It’s so accepted no matter what the religion, faith or tree-hugger comes along ‘don’t make waves’ and God loves everyone..My Bible explicitly defines The Lord entirely different and don’t mix words on who or what He hates! and who and what He loves. I just believe the time is so short that The Blood of Jesus and the hideous death he took on by so much love for us ALL that we ‘ALL’ should be more aware of The Great Salvation He did for us, so as not to try to white-wash a demonic based religious lie in stead of standing faithful to his Redemptive Work for and in all who will repent and believe. I say this not that I am of special anointing (we all have the anointing for what we are called to do hating the garment they wear to save some) to bring these demonic truths to light but that those who can and do so with much eloquence as well as Scripture-based facts would be a great help (I pray so) for many who read this site and those who many or some of us send copies out to others who have yet to have their eyes opened.

      • Dear Andrea

        Shalom.

        Why do News That Matters have such a high profile against the Roman Catholic Church?

        Why do we not expose other cults?

        The answer is very simple. There is only one cult that has its own state. There is only one cult who has a leader with diplomatic immunity, and 180 Ambassadors hailing him. There is only one cult who has a Observer seat at the United Nations. There is only one cult, who has a leader who claims he is the rightful head of all Churches on earth, the very “Vicar of Christ”.

        The rest of the cults will hail the mother of all cults, at the very end of the road. There will only be two flocks left. The sheep and the goats. If we can avoid people accepting the mother of all cults as anything but lies, deceptions and wickedness, we might be able to find some people in heaven, who have repented. Because without repentance a billion people or more will perish, and have to spend eternity in Hell, simply by accepting an anti-Christ in flesh as a valid and legitimate “Christian” leader.

        If you do not accept the Pope as a Christian leader, you better tell your Catholic friends about it. If not their blood will come on your hands.

      • Thank you very much…I sent a copy of your reply to all on my list of friends, family, associates and ministry that I am a part of….Thank you very much.

      • Dear Ivar.

        Blessings.

        Thanks for your words.

        As I have been told in the past, those with Stigmata’s were ‘holy.’ I thought I had to work very hard in order to be holy and become like one of these people

        There are many miracles in the Catholic church, but from whom do these miracles derive? Miracles performed by demons give a false proof of the ‘one true church’ keeping people inside of it’s walls. I always considered if “proof.”

        Some stigmata’s are fake. I met a woman with a stigmata once. I believe it was legitimate. She held my hand as I spoke with her. That night I got attacked. I threw up for 24 hours. I knew, it was from the devil. The whole night there was the presence of demons in my room. I thought it was because I was with someone holy. Now I know the truth.

        Sue

    • My friend, a minister, used to think as you about Mary. Until his dream of Jesus, asking him “why do you persecute my Mother?”. She who was Chosen of God, to bear the Messiah.
      And those who think the sacrafice of Jesus saves; yes it does. But do you never read the Words from The Word Himself, which tell we may still damn ourselves. For instance, he says he will forsake those ashamed to be his followers, and hide it. Also, to sin against the Holy Spirit (Comforter), is Not Forgiven. “NOT FORGIVEN”. It does not say, “… except for Born Again Christians; you go ahead and do it & its Okay” … now does He !?
      Does He ?! Thus, for God’s sake, and yours, Listen to HIM !
      Peace Be With You ( and … ?!)

    • All stigmata is demonic in origin and the nun who is bleeding all over the place has ONLY LIVED ON ONE EUCHARIST HOST everyday for 12 years, WHO IS LYING TO WHOM FOR THE HUMAN BODY CANNOT GO FOR LONG WITHOUT WATER, OTHERWISE the human body suffers dehydration and organ failure. Secondly is she truly lived on the wafer alone she would have become anorexia and would have died many years before she did. Once again it is another lie perpetrated by the RCC

  4. We are to test every spirit to see if it is from GOd. The test is scripture.
    The scars that Yeshua bares are are not stigmatas, we know how He got them, He suffered greatly to get His, and they are scars, period!
    I believe that what we see here is demonic.

  5. GOD WILL DETERMINE HOW FAR “SHARING IN THE SUFFERINGS OF CHRIST” IS BIBLICAL; ONE KNOWS ONE’S RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST FOR ONESELF; NOT EVERYTHING SAID UNSCRIPTURAL IS UNSCRIPTURAL; SOME PEOPLE CALLED UNSCRIPTURAL ARE MORE SCRIPTURAL, BELIEVING LITERALLY… THEIR HEART IS RIGHT! I ACTUALLY HEARD A PASTOR SAYING, “THIS IS NOT THE BLOOD OF CHRIST…,” AT COMMUNION . . . IN DIRECT OPPOSITION TO SCRIPTURE–JESUS SAID, “THIS IS MY BLOOD . . .” MATTHEW 26:28, For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. JUST BE CAREFUL. <3+MOTHER

    • Shabbat Shalom Wendy,
      Jer:17:9, “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; Who can know it?” This is why GOd tells us, to test the spirits, to make sure that they are from GOd. This is why we are told, not to add or to take anything away from His word. So scripture is the way,by which, we can know the things that are from GOd, and the things that are not from GOd.
      How are blood spots magicly appearing on someones hands, evidence of ‘sharing in the suffering of Christ?’ This person wasn’t crucified, so whare exactly, is the suffering part? If anything, these oddities minamize suffering. GOd, gives us these instructions for our protection, and if we’re wise we will use them.
      Soon we here in America will indeed have to suffer for our faith. In this country we don’t have any idea what it means to suffer. However, as the birth pangs increase, Satan will rachet up his attacks against believers. We need to allow the Holy Spirit to prepare our hearts to accept and to endure the perrsecution that Satan will shortly unleash against the entire body of Christ.
      Blessings to you sister, and may the Lord increase your faith.

      • Many do and many have ‘known the suffering for their faith’ in America. I do believe that there will be untold suffering as the shouts of Pharaoh’s laws continue to change, you’ll continue to see the church’s and a lot of their people come so unglued during this time, that will, I pray, awaken them to Truth. Many will turn away from Our Lord and Savior! I see this in my daily walk, how hard will it be for many to believe. The ease in which people ” sue and shout for their rights’ their faith will be hid in ‘their rights’ and not in their ‘first Love’. I pray I too will not be found wanting, but rather found faithful to The Holy One of Israel!

      • Again, which canon of Scripture? And if the heart is desperately wicked, how can you know you are interpreting Scripture correctly?

      • Hi James,
        I don’t know anything about catholic cannons. However, I can tell you what I have: I have the Hebrew and English TANAKH, put out by the Society For Distrubuting Hebrew Scriptures. I also have the Hebrew- English Brit Chadashah (New Testament) and I also have the NKJV of the Bible. I hope that this is helpful.

      • The ”BLOOD stigma ” on Myrna Nazzour is totally demonic in origin, is has appeared on: ”Myrna Nazzour of Damascus suffering for the sins of the world.”
        Every thing about this is total blasphemy as only YESHUA suffered for the ”SINS OF THE WORLD”.
        This is one of the cunning methods used by Satan to deceive the world especially the RC’s into believing as false doctrine , another Christ, which is not the Saviour / Messiah send by YWHW

    • Dear Sue.

      Shalom.

      Jesus is also the “rock” of our salvation. So Catholic should basically take some stones on their back, and carry them through the streets. I guess they will feel this is a to heavy burden. But to drink literally blood, is ok. A very strange logic, that in in every way linked to spiritual blindness.

  6. Don’t you heard the holy words :

    1Peter 4:13 But rejoice in the degree that you have shared in the sufferings of Christ,..

    Jesus suffered on the cross for the sin of the world. Praying for the sinful souls are also suffering. It is a free will, to suffer for other people’s sins. The way to Heaven is too narrow and suffering.

    • Dear Oldman.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      You wrote:

      1Peter 4:13 But rejoice in the degree that you have shared in the sufferings of Christ,..

      My reply:

      You can not suffer for your own sins, in a bid to get redeemed. Jesus suffered in your place. He carried your sins to the cross and paid in full with His own blood, once and for all.

      To suffer for Christ, is something totally different. This is to tell others about Him. If you do, you will be mocked and ridiculed. Some will be beaten, and even killed. Very few talk to others about Jesus. To pick up a cross daily, is not to carry a piece of wood in the neighborhood. It is to flow against the stream, and do the Fathers will, while the rest do what the flesh desire. The whole World will surely hate you, when you do this.

      • Hi Oldman,
        Often times Christians fail to fully understand scripture, their churches have long ago removed the depth and beauty that the Hebrew mindset provides. As to the issue of (free will,) this is temple language. One example of this is when Yeshua said; “no man takes my life, I lay it down, of my own FREE WILL.”
        He is telling the listener that He is not only a Sin Offering, but that He is a free will offering, as well.
        This occures again, when speaking to the jews, Yeshua says; “If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes. Luke: 19,42. Once again, using temple langague, He is letting the listener that He is your Peace Offering.
        GOd, gave us the scriptures so that we could test any spirit, to see if it is from Him. If you search the the word of GOd for any examples of spontainous occurances of bleeding stigmata, you will not find it. This is how we know that it is not from Him. Secondly, the appearance of sudden bleeding which is not brought about by any affliction, in effect, cheapens the real agony that Yeshua endured.
        Yeshua told us that we would be hated and many of us killed, because we carry His name. This is a common experience; you’ll notice, you can talk to anyone about GOd, in the generic sense, but once you put a name to this GOd, namely, Yeshua or Jesus, suddenly, the conversation is not as welcomed. In the comming days we can expect this type of intolerance to increase. This type of suffering will be real and it will be because we carry His name.

    • Hi sueliz1,
      Thanks, but I am not a writer. Most times, but not always, I will pray for the Holy Spirit to help me, and the difference between the two is obvious. There was a time when I could hardly speak or write a sentance without using the ‘F’ word. So all the praise is GOd’s alone.

  7. Hi ivarfjeld and Denise,

    Don’t you do fasting? It’s a self suffering to get strength to the prayer what we are asking. Everything is with His Mercy.

  8. Hi Oldman,

    I know you addressed Ivar and Denise but I just wanted to add a quick comment.

    Fasting and the denial of this bodily need, draws us closer to God, who becomes our bread and our living water. It reminds us of our complete and total dependence on God, who gives us all our needs.

    Fasting is not used to pay for ones sins or anyone else’s sins. We simply hunger and thirst for Him.

    Oldman, if you can save another person from suffering, the gospel is null and void. His blood alone is sufficient to save and to cover you completely.

    In the scripture, Jesus healed EVERY disease and never GAVE illness to people. His message is compassion: feeding the hungry, healing the sick, and delivering the oppressed! Praise God! He never said to one person “Be sick so the glory of God will be evident.” No. He said the radical opposite and set free all those who believed.

    Therefore, the stigmata is a deceptive deception, convincing the blind that Jesus’ blood was not enough. That we need to fill in the gap for Jesus. This is a lie from hell. He is mighty to save! Completely and totally. There is nothing you or I can do to add to His PERFECT work. And to accept Him as Savior and Lord liberates you from the burdens you carry. Have you accepted Him as Savior Old Man?

    • YOU Are very misled : I NOTICE THAT YOU WON’T RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT SO MANY STIGMATISTS HAVE THE POWER TO HEAL-THIS POWER TO HEAL WAS GIVEN TO THE STIGMATISTS TO FURTHER PROVE THAT CHRIST IS WITH THEN. YOUR STUPID WAY OF “DISMISSING” THIS VERY IMPORTANT AND VITAL FACT SHOWS EVERYONE THAT YOU ARE NOT VERY DETERMINED TO FACE THE TRUTH!! AS SIGMUND FRUEID SAID, “PEOPLE HATE THE TRUTH. THEY ARE IGNORNANT TO THE TRUTH. AND MANY, Not only CANNOT FACE UP TO THE TRUTH, THEY DESPISE THE TRUTH AS WELL. ” YOU FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY. SO STOP DISMISSING THE FACTS, BECAUSE IT ONLY SHOWS HOW MUCH YOU NEED TO LEARN.! BUT IT MAY BE HARD FOR YOU, BECAUSE YOU ALREADY BUILT UP LAYERS OF THICK WALLS TO SHIELD YOURSELF FROM THE TRUTH. BREAK DOWN THOSE WALLS! ! AND START TO REALLY LEARN THE TRUTH. THAT FLIPPANT ATITUDE IS REALLY DISGUSTING IN THE EYES OF GOD.

    • Michael,
      It seems that you are the one who has been “misled.”
      It is Jesus Christ who heals. He is the ONLY one who can. And anyone who stands and claims they have the power, is arrogant and deceitful. If a man comes up and claims he has the same wounds that Jesus suffered on the cross, it is because he has been deceived by the devil himself, and I would rebuke him in the name of Jesus.

      1 John 4:1-6 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them.

      • Gloria,
        A kingdom divided cannot stand.
        * How can satan cast out satan
        * How can Satan support praying the rosary and saving souls to God.
        Can you tell any Stigmatist who claims they have the power.It is Jesus Christ who heals through them like Apostles did.

  9. If this for the Glory of God what is your problem my dear brothers?

    John 11:3-4 So the sisters sent word to Jesus, “Lord, the one you love is sick.” When he heard this, Jesus said, “This sickness will not end in death. No, it is for God’s glory so that God’s Son may be glorified through it.”

    And about a born blind man:
    John 9:3 said Jesus, “but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life.

    “We see the wise and wonderful arrangement of Divine Providence. It is a part of his great plan to adapt his mercies to the woes of men: and often calamity, want, poverty, and sickness are permitted, that he may show the provisions of his mercy, that he may teach us to prize his blessings, and that deep-felt gratitude for deliverance may bind us to him.”

  10. Oldman,,

    Why did the sickness in John 11 glorify God? because Jesus, healed the sick person and raised him up. The person did not remain ill, He was healed. The healing is what glorified God, not the sickness.

    God did not give the illness in John 9. But He used the sickness to glorify the Father, whose will was for the person to SEE and be WELL.

  11. Isaiah 53:4

    Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted.

    Isaiah 53:5

    But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed.

    If it was God’s will that people were sick, then it would a sin to go to a doctor and seek healing. it would be a sin to take medicine. Jesus bore our infirmities on the cross and gave us a new nature. Our illnesses were nailed to the cross.And He bore them all.

  12. Please read the entirety of the following. I am Catholic. I went through each argument, and explained it. I countered many arguments, all of which are important. Seek the truth in full, not just part; that is Christianity. Feel free to email me questions, comments, concerns,and/or complaints at mkatalenich@yahoo.com. Do not send me vague comments against the Church; please provide actual arguments with which I can work. Do not try to convert me without some very good evidence; otherwise, you labor in complete vain.

    Here we go…

    Catholics would not say that one who Has stigmata is “ultra-holy.” It is defined as a Charism (that which is given to an individual regardless of personal sanctification). “without having to rely on themselves to get to heaven for being “good.”” So, if you believe in Jesus, but do bad, you’ll still get to heaven? That doesn’t make sense. What about people who have never heard the name of Jesus by no fault of their own? Are they excluded from heaven since they do not “believe in Jesus?” God certainly wouldn’t expect them to go to Hell because they haven’t heard of Jesus. not hearing His name isn’t a sin. By that logic, Moses wouldn’t have been in Heaven (he wouldn’t have known the name of Jesus). The closer we are to Christ, the more the Devil hates us. It makes sense that those who are closest (yet still within his reach on Earth) should be the most tormented.

    Why would praying the Rosary be evil? All it does (if you’ve even read the words) is ask Mary to pray for us. Have you ever asked someone else to pray for you? It’s exactly the same thing. Jesus told us to pray for one another. Doesn’t it make sense to ask the one who is closest to Him to do so for us? this is the same reason Catholics pray to Saints. Also, the word “pray” does not mean worship. Praying is merely asking someone. It comes from the Latin “precare” meaning “to ask in earnest.” If a Catholic ever worshiped Mary, they would not be in communion with Christ or the Church, because that would be wrong.

    Stigmata are not in the Bible. This is true. Neither are the 36,000 denominations of Christianity. By this logic, we could see that having 36,000 “types’ of Christians is from the Bible. Actually, you can’t believe that the Bible is infallible if you do not believe that the Catholic Church is infallible. otherwise, the Bible would be full of errors. Only God makes no mistakes, unless he gives that power to an entity. No God certainly came to each of the 36,000 denominations individually. Jesus only gave “the power to bind and loose” to one man, Peter, the Earthly-leader of the first Christian Church (The Catholic Church). Other things not mentioned in the Bible: The New Testament itself, SOLA SCRIPTVRA, faith-alone salvation, etc.

    “God did not give illness,” but He let Lazarus die. he knew about it, and chose to let Him die. He raised him up. People who have stigmata are “let have them” bu God. He will raise them up.

    “You cannot suffer for your own sins in a bid to get redeemed.” True, but you can work through suffering to bring about God’s blessing. We do not earn salvation. Nothing we do can merit salvation (even accepting Christ). Nothing. God gives it to us. However, it was the belief of the early Christians (Apostles included), that suffering for God (physically and spiritually) meant more than just being ridiculed. it meant true, physical pain and affliction if need be. If God gave stigmata to someone as an example that we have enough strength to pursue God anyway, then that would be a great example. He has done this.

    Until the schism and reformation, all Christians were Catholic. This includes the Apostles. If the Apostles were Catholic, why shouldn’t we be? The Catholic Church has never changed a single teaching since Christ gave the first one, ALL other denominations have. Can you truly say that you follow Christ, if you changed what He said/meant? Isn’t changing something to suit your own desires/thoughts just like making something of your won? Wouldn’t you be worshiping something which you created? Wouldn’t that be idolatry?

    As Christians, we are not people of a book! We are people of a person, Jesus Christ. Anyone who claims only to believe in the Bible, fails to see that the Bible doesn’t “believe in the Bible.” No where in the bible does it say that Mark, Luke, Matthew, and John wrote the Gospels (these Titles were added by the Catholic Church to the original texts). The Bible didn’t exist for the first Christians (they didn’t practice SOLA SCRIPTVRA). They believed in what Christ taught, and taught it themselves as the Catholic Church. If this Church has never changed her teachings (which she hasn’t, There are no examples where you can show that she has. Go ahead and try.), then it would still teach what Christ taught. This is the definition of the true Church of Christ.

    “YIKES!! This looks more like the Amityville Horror house and photos of the family that lived inside who were terrorized by demons than something “holy”!” Jesus’ dying on the cross for a crime He didn’t commit sounds more like a bad detective movie than something holy. But, you would never have claimed that would you?

    “Nowhere in the Bible does it say that true Christians should seek out people who start bleeding out of their eyeballs and hands for no apparent reason and then join that church.” No, but it does say that true Christians should seek out a man who was reviled by His peers, called a heretic by the Holy Council, whipped for treason, crowned with thorns and mocked for His “insolence,” and crucified as nothing greater than a common criminal, and join His Church (note the singular noun).

    Following traditions isn’t evil. No where in Scripture does it say that we should celebrate Christmas on December 25th. The Church established this Tradition. No where does it say that we should have Sunday be our Holy day; actually, it claims Saturday in the Old testament. Christian Churches have used this Tradition from the time of Christ. Tradition also names our Churches. it gives us what we use as ways of ordaining ministers. It gives us the idea of SOLA SCRITVRA. It gives us the name Christians. “for those who hang on to the traditions of family rather than to do as Jesus said … to leave mother, father, sister, brother and follow ONLY JESUS — I pray the Lord opens your eyes.”

    (All these quotes are from comments on this post or from the post itself)

    • Dear Mamak.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      You wrote:

      “without having to rely on themselves to get to heaven for being “good.”” So, if you believe in Jesus, but do bad, you’ll still get to heaven? That doesn’t make sense. What about people who have never heard the name of Jesus by no fault of their own?

      My comment:

      People have been sent to Hell, long time before Jesus came in flesh and died on the cross for the sins of the Word. Men is cursed, and all of us, ALL, deserve to be sent to Hell.

      There is only one gate to Heaven, and it is narrow. If you want to live, you have to search for the truth. If not you will die in your sins, and perish.

      The World of God is now widely available. The Bible is there, and the gospel is presented in TV, radio, CD, DVD and on the Internet.

      Jesus has promised that all who seek for the truth, will find Him. Those who do not care will not find Him, and perish. Likewise those who rejects Him. Inside Iran are Muslims saved, simply by crying out in His name. The Messiah sends His Holy Spirit on them. They have no idea about who the Pope is, and there is no Roman Catholic Churches to be found for about 800 kilometers.

  13. Mamak,

    You wrote:

    Until the schism and reformation, all Christians were Catholic. This includes the Apostles.

    My reply:
    This is simply not true. The apostles were JEWISH. Not “catholic.” The apostles were not priests. (please show me in the bible where you get this from.) The apostles would never pray to anyone but God. Not “Saints”, not “Mary” not Steven, the first martyr.
    The apostles did not drink blood and flesh,say Mass or have tabernacles in their homes. There were no “holy days of obligation” and no hierarchy. There were elders, yes but not a hierarchy as developed from Constantine. There were also no ‘indulgences’ in the apostles day.
    It is a fallacy that the first Christians were Catholic and ruled by an infallible “Pope.” Just not true.

    • Mamak,

      Jesus said that just before the tribulation, deception and evil would run rampant and evil men would deceive and be deceived. After I read your post, Bible Prophecy was right on the money once again.

      I would say that 99.5 percent of these so-called stigmata wounds are fake, painted on hoaxes. The other .5 percent are the workings of demons. And what a coincidence that within just a few short hours, most of the so-called wounds are reported to “miraculously” disappear.

      If the “saints” in these photos were alive today, maybe they would be able to have their own Reality TV Show called, “Saints, Stigmata, and Swenson’s Ice Cream.”

      The show could take us behind the scenes where we could watch the most holy “charismatic” frauds self-inflict wounds with pocket knives on themselves, while pouring red dye, ketchup, or some type of collected blood (whether human or animal) all over the so-called mystical wounds.

      (By the way, the second photo from the top with the caption that reads:)

      “Therese Neumann spent many days in bed, bleeding from the ‘wounds of Christ.’ She is said to have lived on only one eucharistic host per day for 12 years without food or water.”

      Well! That must be one nutrition packed wafer to keep Therese Neumann so pleasantly plump for 12 long years! Maybe the author of “The South Beach Diet” needs to investigate this and write a new book called: “The Eucharistic Diet — One Pint of Blood Loss Equals One Pound of Weight Loss.”

      (Shuuuuuush!) Don’t tell anyone, but I would bet that Miss Therese had a few boxes of pop-tarts and Snickers bars hiding under the mattress.

      The only miracle that we are witnessing here is not some “holy stigmata” but the fact that these liars have not be committed to a mental institution or put in jail for the fraud they perpetrate.

      But I suppose a better place for them rather than an institution or jail, according to the pope, would be to have them lie like a decaying corpse in a Catholic “church” somewhere so the “faithful ” can bow down to them, kiss the glass encasement they are in, and pray directly to them — instead of to the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Yeshua.

      May God have mercy on you, Mamak. I will keep you in prayer.

      • Hi JM,
        It’s sad, but these empty “miracles” keep many people in bondage to the catholic church and to Satan. As the days become more wicked even the ellect will have to be very cautious. Remember, G’d will allow Satan to perform miracles, this power will be granted to him by G’d, Himself. This is why we must depend on G’d’s word alone, to judge what is from G’d and what is from Satan. Just keep praying for G’d to increase the size of the remnant, and to increase the number of workers, for the end times harvest of souls. Peace be upon you, and upon your house hold.

    • Hi sueliz,
      Tell who ever you are chatting with to google the pope kissing the koran. If that dosen’t convince her, then I don’t know what will. Look at pictures of this pope and you can see that he even looks demonic. There are some people who love the traditions of men more than they love G’d. His word is very clear; there is only one mediator between G’d and men, and that is Yeshua,(Jesus.) There is only one acceptable sacrifice for sin and that is yeshua’s blood. Period!

  14. Hi Denise,

    You wrote:
    Remember, G’d will allow Satan to perform miracles, this power will be granted to him by G’d, Himself. This is why we must depend on G’d’s word alone, to judge what is from G’d and what is from Satan.

    Then how will an ordinary believer know what is from G’d and what is from Satan. Please write the verses to help believers.

    Peace with you

    • Dear Oldman

      Shalom.

      Her is the stern warning that exposes that SATAN has permission to perforce miracles, to test us:

      Deuteronomy 13

      Worshiping Other Gods

      If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul.

      • Dear Ivarfjeld,

        It is ok with Deuteronomy 13 for Worshiping Other Gods.

        Here we are discussing the same God. How to test the spirit what is from God and what is from Satan. These Stigmata either from God or Satan and how to identify?

        Peace be with you.

      • Hi Andrea,
        Yeshua, being fully G’d and fully man, is the only acceptable sinless sacrifice, and it is only His bloood that was shed, for a purpose, as a sin offering. He is the One who laid down His life, no one else. And as G’d, He shares His Glory with no man! Period! Hi, again Andrea, I wrote this to you, for you to share it with the person that you are having this exchange with.
        Blessings to you!

      • Ivarfjeld, you are implying, rather directly and with some measure of force, (when you reach into the old testament ), that JESUS CHRIST is something that is not the work of GOD.Which is rather weak at best , to go and slander Christ. To say that someone who performs miracles, (like Christ did), may not be the work of God, but the work of the devil. Why are you forgetting the fact that King Herrod, killed infant children, (around the time of Christ’s birth ), became he was told by all his astrologist and men of learning, (that he had surrounded himself with ), that the “KING OF THE WHOLE WORLD HAS BEEN BORN “. This enraged King Herrod, and he ordered that all children up to the age of 3 years old, were to be massacred. So it shows you, that Christ was born a true entity of God. And The evil King Herrod tried his best, to kill off the True King of this World ! Thanks be to God, that JESUS CHRIST wasn’t Killed. So THERE!!! AND DON’T GO ON AND ON ABOUT THIS TRIVIAL THING AND THAT TRIVIAL THING, BECAUSE YOU CAN’T FACE THE TRUTH! ! GET OVER IT ALREADY! !STOP BEING AN OLD FOOL!

      • Dear Michael Fisher

        Shalom, and love in Jesus.

        You wrote:

        … to go and slander Christ. To say that someone who performs miracles, (like Christ did), may not be the work of God, but the work of the devil.

        My comment:

        You must not be ignorant of scripture. Can you please give me some Bible verses, that says that only God can perform miracles? At least one?

  15. Amen! to Deuteronomy 13 >>> Worshiping Other Gods

    Amen! to 1 John 4 >>> Testing the Spirits

    1 John 4:2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses Jesus as the Christ who has come in the flesh is from God,
    1 John 4:3 but every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God, and this is the spirit of the antichrist,…

    In my humble opinion:
    * St. Padre Pio confesses Jesus as the Christ.
    * He had stigmata for about 50 years and stay fresh and uninfected.
    * His life was not evil. He known for his long hours of prayer, penitence, obedience and humility – the qualities not certainly of Satan.

    Praying for Jesus Mercy upon everyone.

    • Dear Oldman.

      Shalom.

      Your comment:

      In my humble opinion:* St. Padre Pio confesses Jesus as the Christ.* He had stigmata for about 50 years and stay fresh and uninfected.

      My reply:

      Read Isaiah 53. Stigmata is blasphemy against the Messiah, who is the only one who was pierced for my transgressions. I do not want stigmata of created beings. I reject them as demonic falsehood. A false Miracle is a miracles that goes head on the scriptures, The Wold of God.

      • This is in reply to ‘Oldman” saying, I said Amen o tDeuteronomy 13 is worshiping other gods.That is not what I said..nor is it what I meant. Anyone who twists The Word of God, will ultimately twist The Word of God for their own benefit, ie to appear as ‘right’ using The Word to justify what they want said I said ‘Amen to Deuteronomy 13 in response to Ivars explanation of the topic at hand! The Lord Jesus Christ is the only one I will worship…all others are man-made inspired by Satan!

  16. Matthew 7:16-20 >>> A Tree and Its Fruit

    16 You will recognize them by their fruit. Grapes are not gathered from thorns or figs from thistles, are they?
    17 In the same way, every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.
    18 A good tree is not able to bear bad fruit, nor a bad tree to bear good fruit.
    19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
    20 So then, you will recognize them by their fruit.

    Now it is inevitable to recognize St. Padre Pio because of his fruits.
    We should (also) test the spirit with their fruits.

    Praying HolySpirit to give wisdom to everyone.

    • Dear Oldman.

      Shalom.

      We shall looks for fruits.

      If you ask a Roman Catholic, where He will go after he die, he will not know. At best he will says: I will depart for Purgatory. He might have heard the gospel, but have been told it is a false gospel. That includes the Italian priest Pio. No fruits. Just lies and wickedness without end. Catholics have been told to believe and teach papal doctrines. If you believe in them, you are on the high way to Hell.

      • I am a Roman Catholic, I believe in God, I am a good person, I give my time to help at the library, I am kind to people. Yes, of course I sin! Don’t you? But in the end I KNOW I am going to heaven.

        I don’t think that anybody but God has the right to decide where anybody is going after they die.

        The only reason I looked at this article was to see pictures of Padre Pio. But I read the article, then the comments. It’s enraged me. If you’re a “Christian” you don’t condemn others to hell, or make rude comments about the way we worship.

      • Kiki,

        You wrote you don’t think anyone has the right to declare who gets to heaven: that kind of contradicts catholic belief that the Pope declares who has made it to heaven when he declares someone a saint. And RCC can condemn those who leave the RCC to hell & they are anathema.

        Kay

  17. ‘every kingdom divided against itself will be laid waste and house will fall against house.’ -luke 11:17. Now, if these stigmatas are from the devil but bring many closer to jesus then how can they be from him? Just as Catholics HONOR (not worship) Mary and the Saints, it is all meant to bring us closer to Jesus. How does it bring us closer to Jesus? it gives us examples of normal people just like you and me to live a life of holiness. We can only hope to aspire to be like God, however, we can never ever be God. Honoring the saints is just another form of admiration, like giving respect to a great leader or athlete and praying for their intercession is like asking a friend for his prayers. Ultimately the main goal is to bring us closer to God. I saw some comments earlier about the mystery of the Eucharist and it truly
    is a mystery…lol. It took me awhile to wrap my head around eating jesus but after I stopped seeking through my own heart and instead through Jesus’s

    • Hi Ian,
      All of these “saints” are nothing more than dead people, so prayer to a dead “saint,” even as an intersessor, is wrong on several points…One there is only ONE meidiator between G’d and man and that is Yeshua.aka, Jesus. Also praying or conversing, with the dead is called necromancy, it is a practice that is absolutely forbiden, and is called an abomination by G’d. The “saints” are nothing more than sinful people, just like the rest of humanity and to glorify them beyond that, is sinful. G’d says that He shares His glory with no man.
      Love and blessings, in the Lord.

    • Hi Ian,
      I don’t know much obout Catholics, that said, I think that you might be refering to the bread and wine. These are just two of the elements of the Passover Sedar. What Yeshua was saying, is that He was G’d’s passover Lamb, and that He would be leaving soon, to die on a tree as an offering for sin. He was also telling His decipels that in the future, when they partook of these Passover elements, that they were to remember Him, and that we were to remember that His body and His blood were shed for us,by Him, on our behalf. He told His deciples that He would not touch wine again until He drinks it in in the messianic kingdom. This is a Jewish Rabbi, speaking to His Jewish deciples. Yeshua was fulfilling part of the Spring Feast. In His second coming He will also fulfill the fall feast. Nothing Catholic here.

    • Praying to saints is a distraction. It is a deceit. I myself was a devout saint-prayer & it lead me to great depression b/c it goes against God’s law. It does not bring life. Once I realized this & gave my heart/soul only to Jesus, I have had great joy & peace praying directly & only to my Lord Jesus. No one can convince me now to pray to a human (dead) when I am free to go to Jesus & that He desires only this!

      • God is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. God is not the God of the Dead but God of the Living. This was stated by Jesus Christ himself against the Sadducees. I am Catholic myself, and I would recommend praying to Jesus Christ first and foremost for anything.

  18. Hi Ian,
    I forgot something, you are not eating Jesus. I can well imagine the difficulty you would have trying to wrap your head around that teaching.

  19. I know of a “born again christian” who has the stigmata and believes it from god and when praying for deliverance for people diamonds were spit out why such maifestations how can saton be involved in such a life what was the open door and how do we expose such as false to those whom follow

  20. I can’t believe how anti-catholic so many christians are. I am a Catholic and i respect and appreciate all christians no matter what denomination. The Catholic church is not a cult. there are sometimes corrupt and deceitful people in the church but that is so in every organisation the world over. In my opinion, the ‘holy’ Benny Hinn is one of those corrupt people.

    I don’t know a lot about the nun Therese or the other girl but i know a lot about Parde Pio and he was a VERY holy man. He saved a LOT of souls and he suffered all his life to atone for the sins of others and convert souls for Jesus. He was a very humble man and never flaunted his stigmata. In fact he was extremely humiliated that the wounds were visible and begged Christ to take them away because of the attention they drew. Another very holy saint who had stigmata was st. Francis of Assisi and if you knew anything about him you would know that he too way a humble, kind and generous person and i guarantee you could find no way to call him demonic or possessed.

    I am surprised that so many christians believe that we do not have to do anything more than believe to be saved. I think there is a lot more to it than that or life would be far too easy. And we know life wasn’t easy for Jesus. aren’t we supposed to follow his example? If Jesus can suffer for us when He doesn’t even deserve it, why can’t we suffer for Him? It seems obvious that we should suffer as He did and the stigmata, to bear Jesus’ own wounds seems to me a great blessing. How honoured are these humble disciples who are allowed to suffer for Christ as Christ suffered for us?

    I encourage christians to be open minded. My Catholic faith is the deepest, richest and most beautiful thing in my life. I hope you don’t think that these images would turn me off it? Do you think Catholics don’t already know about the stigmatics and the horrible reality of their suffering? We know and we embrace.

    I would also like to add that I know a lot more protestants who speak in tongues than i know Catholics (although many still do). I think God allows different people different blessings. Just because something is different to what you are used to doesn’t mean it is bad or wrong.

    • Dear dominique

      Shalom.

      You wrote:

      ….know a lot about Parde Pio and he was a VERY holy man. He saved a LOT of souls….

      My comment:

      One of the problems with the Roman Catholic Church, is that the RCC priests have no clue about how to be saved. They teach a false gospel, walks in a false Holy Spirit, and deceive both them selves and all who listen to them.

      Man is saved by faith alone, in Jesus alone, separated from works. Neither the Pope nor Padre Pio can save anyone.

    • Dominique,

      What is the purpose of the stigmata?
      Non-Christian stigmata

      Among the Warao of the Orinoco Delta, a contemplator of tutelary spirits may mystically induce the development of “openings in the palms of his hands.”[29] That these tutelary spirits are presented by the “itiriti snake” makes for a close analogue with the Seraph who endowed Francis of Assisi with his stigmata.

      Buddhist “stigmata”[30][31] are regularly indicated in Buddhist art.

      Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/stigmata#ixzz1n1gnOnA9

      Did you know Buddhists and other religions get the stigmata? This is demonic. Padre Pio’s blood can NOT save one person, only the finished work of Jesus can save. Ivar is right. Catholics do not understand salvation. I know because i was one.

  21. Answers to some of the questions stated here..
    Are these from the devil?
    Luke 9: 49-50

    Matthew 12:22-37

    Prayer to saints
    Rev. 5:8-14

    Although many catholics are going in the wrong path, it doesnt mean that all catholics are going there also. Some catholics are sinners, and will do anything for earthly satisfaction and glory but it doesnt mean that all of them are. In my opinion, some born again christians pastor are corrupt, but I know for a fact that not all of these pastors are.
    ______________________________________

    There is no true religion, denomination or sect.,
    just a True God
    We will not be judged by our religion, but by our faith & *works (*James 2: 14-25)
    ..We are all blemished before God, the way to salvation is narrow and hard..
    Let’s us all help each other to faithfully follow Jesus path!

    Love & care for each other, as did what Jesus meant by the Parable of the Good Samaritan.
    May we have the strength to do God’s will!

  22. Dear OldMan,

    God bless, and prepare your heart for my words, I see that your question about the stigmata, has not yet been answered with scripture.

    You say:
    1 John 4:2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses Jesus as the Christ who has come in the flesh is from God,
    1 John 4:3 but every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God, and this is the spirit of the antichrist,…

    The stigmata does not bring people closer to God or Jesus, instead it causes many souls in awe to flock to the Catholic Church and it’s mysticism whether it be tears of blood, stigmata or virgin Mary on whatever object or space. After each stigmata many souls hurry to be a part of whatever catholic church has one of these individuals waiting around too see their next encounter. The Catholic Church through all the different fallacies that include; The stigmata and other mysticism, recitation with beads, prayer to saints, and using indulgences and interpretation not found in the Bible has been able to keep the believer occupied in a vicious loops of rites and traditions keeping them from a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. A relationship that demands no act of suffering other than the one that comes from those that despised you for his names sake.

    The Stigmata has never been written in the new testament by any disciple, the very occurrence of these marks cheapen Jesus suffering on the cross and mocks his right as our only savior (Isaiah 53:4-6: Surely he took up our pain and bore our suffering, yet we considered him punished by God, stricken by him, and afflicted. 5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed. 6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to our own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all. )

    Now i know there may be those that might want to contradict that with Galatians 6:17, were Paul says he bares the mark on his body, but consider that Paul was speaking about the beatings and lashes and tortures he received in those days for preaching the word of Jesus Christ. 2 Corinthians 11:23-24: Are they servants of Christ? (I am out of my mind to talk like this.) I am more. I have worked much harder, been in prison more frequently, been flogged more severely, and been exposed to death again and again. 24 Five times I received from the Jews the forty lashes minus one.
    (remember that in those days after Christ death many Christians were being persecuted for speaking of Jesus)

    What the bible say against empty recitations: (Bead prayer)
    (Matthew 6:7: “And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words.)

    What the bible says about Prayer to saints and the Vicar of Christ position.
    (1 Timothy 2:5. For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,)

    What the bible says about rites and rituals
    Colossians 2:14-16
    14 having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. 15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.

    With Love and respect,
    FriendofGod

    • God bless Hannah,

      * We suffer for Jesus by preaching the Gospel, following Jesus and the way is difficult that leads to life (Matthew 7:14),

      * Even today Jesus suffer, weep, sad, hurt, sorrow when we sin against Him, deny Him and reject His word.
      (Please do not say that He completed suffering on the cross once and for all and no more sufferings).

      * Suffering, hard as it is, brings graces especially if it is embraced willingly for the salvation of souls.
      When we suffer always remember how HE suffered.
      His physical torture, remember, would be very difficult to endure by man. Yet mental suffering can create the same pain.

      • Dear Oldman.

        Shalom.

        Long time ago, I spammed you. But by grace, you have made it through my spam filter.

        That Jesus suffer is a laughable claim.

        From where in the scripture are you quoting?

        Lucifer, your God is suffering. Because He is powerless and defeated.

        All power in Heaven and Earth is with God of Israel, and with his Messiah Yeshua. Amen.

      • Oldman, I hope you will stop hardening your heart to The Truth, The Gosple of Jesus Christ…Him being the Truth…

      • Ivar said: All power in Heaven and Earth is with God of Israel, and with his Messiah Yeshua. Amen.

        Amen! Ivar. Amen!

  23. God the Father: I will fight the Battle of Armageddon with the Hierarchy in the Heavens

    <i.Message given to Maria Divine Mercy on Saturday, June 9th, 2012 @ 03:45 pm

    My sweet daughter trust that I, your Heavenly Father, will do all in My power to salvage all of My children on earth

    While I must respect the gift of free will, bestowed by Me as one of the greatest gifts to ensure that mankind would love Me on their own accord, and not by force, I will do wonders and create miracles to bring My children home to Me.

    While a God of Justice, I could never condone or accept evil, but I will forgive all those who turn back to My Son and seek redemption when they become aware of the contents of the Book of Truth.

    I will fight the Battle of Armageddon with the Hierarchy in the Heavens and will, I promise, defeat the enemy and the devils spawned by the hand of Lucifer.

    The time is drawing nearer for Satan to be banished for 1,000 years and woe to the man who does not renounce him or his wickedness.

    All will be shown the truth of My Divine Love and My desire for My splendid Kingdom, My Paradise, to be shared with all.

    Every attempt, through My prophets, will be made to draw them into the arms of My Son.

    Do not, My children forsake Me, your Loving Father.

    Come hear My Call.

    Do not reject your inheritance.

    You are now facing the biggest crisis since the creation of the human race, for the time has come for you to make the final choice.

    Be aware that every lie, every temptation to seek solace in the arms of Satan and his devils, will be made to steal your souls.

    Only those who spend time protecting their Faith, through prayer and the sacraments, will be strong enough to withstand their power.

    Remember that Satan cannot win for he does not have the power. He will now attack all, even holy souls, to reject Me and My Beloved Son.

    Instead he will suck you into an abyss of darkness and confusion and you will be caught in an intricate web of deceit from which you will be unable to entangle.

    Hear Me now. The final battle has begun. Do not make the mistake of rejecting this call, made from the Heavens for it will mean you will be lost for eternity.

    O were you to witness the tragedy of souls, who will refuse the Cup of Salvation.

    They will tumble helplessly along with Satan into the depths of Hell from which there is no return.

    I must, as your Father, point out the dangers you face.

    Why do you not want to listen?

    If you believe in Me, then know that I would send My prophets to warn you.

    Did I not do this before? Did they listen? No, many did not and then the prophecy evolved before their disbelieving eyes.

    This time I come to announce that the time for My Son, the True Messiah, to come again is near.

    Satan knows this. His hatred for Me is so powerful that he will do everything to snatch My children away from Me.

    I am your God, the beginning and the end.

    I created the world in the beginning and it will be by My hand that the world, as you know it, will come to an end.

    But for My beloved children who renounce Satan the new world, the New Paradise on earth, awaits you in all its glory.

    Do not turn your back.

    Do not allow flawed human reasoning to prevent you and your loved ones entering this splendid Paradise where you will want for nothing.

    Choose My Paradise of love, joy and beauty, a special place where you will live in perfect harmony, in mind, body and spirit.

    No corruption. No sin. Just love where you will live in union with My Divine Will.

    Your loving Heavenly Father

    God the Most High

    Link: thewarningsecondcoming.com/messages/latest-messages/

    Ivarfjeld, please not that this is not a spam and I am not a spammer. By Living God’s grace you are being informed this.

    • Oldman,

      A few things. You writing style leads people to great falseness. You write as if you are somehow a king. If in your heart you truly believe that Jesus Christ is your ONLY Savior and that you recogonize that he is the ONLY one that saves, then the WORD OF GOD is what you should use to lead people to Christ. Instead your wiriting style is some sort of mockery to The One and Only King: Jesus Christ.

      And FYI: It is not Mary who died on the cross for our sins. It is not Mary who can forgive you for your sins. Do not let false idols deceive you. It is Jesus Christ who saves.

      Exodus 20:4-6 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.

      John 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”

      • Gloria, do not speak anything with your half knowledge. You are not the only one who know and understood Bible… There are many scholars and more learned than you. So, best point it be silent and keep praying, rather than arguing about what you believe. Nobody had to be convinced with what you are convinced with… Your opinions keep it to yourself. We all have opinions. Well, you speak about idols… What do you mean by idol??? Do you really know what idol is??? Then read Numbers books where God ordered Moses to make bronze serpent and hang it on high post, whoever sees the bronze serpent shall live. So, not you believe that Serpent is satan.. So replace the word serpent with satan… It sounds like “God ordered Moses to make a bronze satan and put it on high post. whoever sees the bronze satan shall live”… So, don’t you think that God is idol worshiper>>??? God ordered to make cherubim with Angels statues… so is God encouraging idols??? that is why, do not be so eager to judge Catholic church with your mediocre knowledge. If you want to know the answers humble yourself and go and ask Catholic priest. but, you guys don’t do that… coz you are convinced that you know everything and others do not know anything…

  24. to Oldman…, True the time is short for The Lord’s return…So please consider seeking The Lord and less pretending you are The Holy Father God writing to anyone. The Scriptures say a lot about what you are doing and none of it is good! So in the short time I pray you will consider seeking The Lord Jesus Christ with all your heart, spirit, soul and body, less you reap the promised fruit that is for all who reject God’s way of Salvation…!!

    • Sister Sueliz1, Amen….to Oldman, I see this also in many other denominations, they seek the ‘revelations, visions, dreams, tingly feelings, I usually tell them, if you want to ‘feel the chill bumps go stick your head in an Ice Box…or heat…go stick your head in an oven…you’ll get all the chill bumps and warm fuzzy feelings you want…sad to say this is what many rely on..and the revelations they get are from what they feel others tell them…and ignore the ‘revelation of Truth’ The Holy Spirit tells them thru The Word of God…I’d almost rather these be caught up in porn, drunkenness etc…than be snared by a ‘religious spirit’…so puffed up like a Peacock…these poor souls are so hell bent on the lies…they are afraid to let go of the ‘feelings’ of the flesh…just one simple second to listen to The Truth…and hold on to that truth till hell freezes over (smile)…Jesus tells us this in His Word so often…the enemy comes immediately to steal the Word from them….It’s good to see you again Sister….

  25. This is beautiful!! How wonderful are the miracles God works through His people!

    Do you not find it amazing and fullfilling to suffer for Christ? Things like This, which is a sacrafice, a betterment for all mankind, shows His True Divine Mercy and Majesty.

    May we all come to know the image of Him as King of Mercy through Great suffering like this. How grace abounds all the more in uniting Oneself with the suffering of Christ!

  26. I cannot understand why someone who call him/herself a Christian can have such foul mouth as these christians who are against Catholics. To even try defend Catholicism against such people is wasteful, because they lack first of all the understanding of being a Christian.

  27. My husband has Stigmata. He is the 8th diagnosed person in the world. He has been given a power from God to heal the sick. He is such an amazing Angel

    • That’s the biggest bunch of Horse crap I’ve ever heard…in a long time……My husband has Stigmata. He is the 8th diagnosed person in the world. He has been given a power from God to heal the sick. He is such an amazing Angel…..
      You’re saying you married an ‘Angel’…???? :::shaking my head:::amazing just how little it takes for a demon to get some people to believe such crazy lies and then claim it is from GOD…??? pitiful pitiful ……

    • This is definitely demonic possession and demon attack.

      Absolutely nothing the pope claims or catholic claims is done in Jesus Name. And that is a huge problem.

      If Satan can trick people into being an angel, then his demons can certainly possessed people and confuse them into believing as such.

      Your husband does not have stigmata. There is not such a thing. You have been trick by the devil. You both need to realize he (your husband) is either possessed or being tortured by a demon. I challenge you to take your husband to a Christian church, to have this demon rebuked IN THE NAME OF CHRIST.

      Once they flee, and they do flee in JESUS NAME, you will see that you have been lied to, and that you chose to believe in that lie.

      Ephesians 6:10-18
      Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm. Stand therefore, having fastened on the belt of truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness,

      Luke 10:17 The seventy-two returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in your name!”

      Mark 3:11 And whenever the unclean spirits saw him, they fell down before him and cried out, “You are the Son of God.”

  28. You know, what the Lord really want is for us to LOVE each other, not to fight and cruel on each other like what you are doing. Jesus Christ added a new commandmend: “This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you~ John 13:34″. I am a Catholic, but religion doest matter in God’s eyes. So please, with all my respect, do not fight anymore on this website. I thought this website will serve as a support for people who loses his hope, to walk a path in rightousness again with God. If someone says false words that insults the Lord God, what we have to do is to correct them and not to start a fight. “Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up~ James 4:10″. May God bless us all and may everyone live according to God’s will.

    • What kind of Christian would we be if we said “forget about everything” let’s just do what Christ said to love one another.

      Yes, Jesus did say it, BUT he also wants us to lead people to him, so they can be saved.

      You say you are a catholic, yet numerous times God tells us do not bow down to idols.

      Exodus 20:3 “You shall have no other gods before me.

      Exodus 20:4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

      Yet even though God says this, you refuse to believe in HIM ONLY. It’s truly sad that many will bow down to a statue and not seek him instead.

      And this stigmata thing is ridiculous, and makes a mockery of Jesus Christ dying and rising for us.

    • …. I am a Catholic, but religion doest matter in God’s eyes.

      I’m sorry that you are Catholic….however I can tell you God does care about religion….

      James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

      So you see in this verse we see that the Lord covers what ‘religion’ is to Him’ and it covers the fact that you should not be Catholic….for Catholics are very spotted from the World…I do pray you will get out of that deception and follow Jesus Christ….

  29. Our complete journey with Christ and very few complete this journey and our spirituality growth depends on us to become like Christ so much that he sees his reflection in us so that we become one with the holy spirit, if this is true as he did as he died on the cross he bore the sins of the world on his being as to what intercessory prayer will also do

  30. Why is it that the only “Christians” that receive the “Stigmata” are Catholic? Are these marks “holy” or the complete opposite?…
    I ask you straight question… Where does your question come from? does it come straight from the Satanic mind and heart of yours or from your ignorant mind or from your egoistic manner??? Ask yourself. And most important thing is that; what kind of answer are you expecting??? Are you already prepared to hear what you want to hear? What do you mean by born again Christian? Do you think that its a free VISA to go to heaven? So, if you are born again, so does it wipe all your past and future sins? or does it give permission to do more and more sins and since you are born again, so your sins shall be forgiven? Be careful when you are speaking something related to God. Be humble in your ways. God can strike you heavily. Be careful…

    • Catholics who gladly seek the truth have been, after a reasonable amount of time and study, able to discern between what is biblical and what is not. There is absolutely no scriptural defense for their continued support of their church’s wicked practices and beliefs.
      There comes a time when enough biblical evidence has been shared with them, for them to know right from wrong. If they refuse loving correction, then kick the dust from off of your shoes and move on. Do not continue to cast your pearls before swine.

      • Do not look into Bible for answers :) Bible itself do not evaluate its own (there is no where in the Bible saying that everybody has to believe in Bible)… And, bible is a gift from Catholic church. Protestants stole it and removed few books and boast that its their property. First, try to know how bible came to existence. Try to understand how the ancient scriptures were translated which were written in ancient Hebrew (its a chain script without any breakage in words or sentence, no commas nor full stops)… Many people prayed for it, then understood the ancient hebrew alphabets and words and researched and then understood and then decoded from ancient Hebrew and then from papal permission it was translated into other languages. Now, these protestants come from nowhere and do over action about Bible, and many foolish people preach bible without knowing anything about bible. Its, not like that in Catholic church. In Catholic church, same scriptures are read throughout the world. Before casting a stone on catholic church, just take time, and then try to know, if its YOU, trying to cast a stone, or its the Satan which is trying to work out with you.

        Many protestant pastors think that they have power to do miracles. And Yes, they heal sick… But, in other words, they are doing it in the name of themselves and with the power of satan, and satan gives you power to heal, so that more and more people are attracted to you and where your pride grows more and more and which is nothing but you are slave to satan… More and more people are attracted to you which means more and more people you are taking away from God… Its something many protestant pastors, do not understand… They continue thinking that they are serving God… But, it appears that he/she is serving God, but actually they are not…

        Satan is more powerful that your and your faith in God… Satan actually tricks you to make you believe that you are holy… Many protestant pastors whom I know and whom I met, always believe that they are holy and they are servants of Gods… But, I tell you, that the moment you feel that you are holy and servant of God, then actually you have gone away from God. A holy person who is closer to God, always believes that he is a sinner and more and more unworthy.

        Many people in this world do not understand my words… Take time and meditate and then you will realize… Satan tricks you… Satan come to you like Jesus on cross or mother Mary, or Angel… You will be tricked very easily…

      • Hi John,
        First of all your knowledge of biblical history is flat out wrong! All of the bible, was given by HaShem, to the Jews. All of the Prophets of GOD were Jewish. All of the Covenants made with man, by GOD, were made with the Jews. Every biblical writer was a Jew. All of the Apostles were Jews. Every member of the original Messianic Church was Jewish. Not a Catholic in the lot! Corneilus, was the very first Gentile member of the Church. “To the Jew first, then to the nations.”

        Secondly, the Catholic Church, was at its inception, Pagan! It remains a Pagan, and a corrupt organization, right down to this very minute!

        Personally, I refuse to coddle, or to give Christian creditability to any satanic organization, including the Catholic Church.

      • Satan is always with you trying to trick you. Read Job book from bible (actually its not real book, its a story told by the prophet Samuel)… In that book you will see that Satan goes and meets God and complain about the things it did. In the same way, philosophically (Eastern Philosophy), says that Darkness and Light always co-exist. Which means that when you light a candle in the room, you actually think that the room has no darkness and you think that there is only light… but, you understand that darkness also exist there… You see the difference in the light with one candle and 100 candles and 1000 and 100000000 candles… the room grows brighter, but still the darkness also co-exist. Which is clear that good and bad are always together… And many exorcists reported that Satan comes to receive holy communion. Many people think that Satan run away from Bible and holy communion, but you need to understand that holy communion will have your spirit holy when your soul is pure, if your soul is sinful, then the holy communion will become evil to you… So Satan receive holy communion (which is God) to become more evil. People who say that they do miracles are 100% Satanic. Because, humans cannot cast out demons nor heal the sick. if you think you are healing then try to make sure if you are healing that with satanic power or Gods power… That is the reason why, Catholic church make sure in every aspect before canonising a person as saint or evaluating stigmata. Because, many satanic people are proved to have stigmata which we call it as false stigmata :)

      • Then who? you wrote it? lol… If you really read the Samuel chapters and Job Chapters, its clear that they look similar. And well, there are many books which are not included in the Bible :) Job book doesn’t specify the author. But, we can still find out to be somewhere 1070 BC. Job is a story which did not really happen. But, its a story told by Prophet Samuel to his people to make them understand very well about Satan and testings and temptations etc. I am sure that, you are looking in google for answers :) haha lol… go to Vatican archives and read the stuff there… Oh sorry sorry, you are kid, so therefore you are not authorized to enter, coz you understand nothing about them :) continue looking for your answers in google :)

      • Please swallow some of your arrogance John. No! of course I didn’t write the bible. The HEBREW PROPHETS wrote the bible, under the inspiration of the HOLY SPIRIT!

        The point that I was making in my previous post, was that the Catholic Church had zero, nothing, nadda, to do with writing the bible. Rendering your comment about the Protestants stealing, and then corrupting the holy scriptures, wrong and quite frankly, blasphemous!

      • Why idiots like you are after Catholic church, I don’t understand… You have freedom to do what you want. But, absolutely not to criticise Catholic Church. There were many Kings and Emperors who tried to destroy Catholic Church. As Jesus said to Peter, I will build my church on you and nothing can win over it. So, idiots like you are just dogs before the mighty Elephant. All you can do it just bark and nothing more. Catholic Church is universal. Not only you, but nothing can shake it. You must remember that. So, keep barking and watch, nothing happens to Catholic church. Honestly, we do not care about the negative thinkers. Have humility, when you do not hesitate to abuse Catholic church, then I do not hesitate to tackle you. You idiots do not know anything about Bible, and who included the books in the Bible… Have you heard about Septuagint or St.Jerome… You idiots know nothing, and you think that you know everything… Shame on you to speak something, without knowing anything. Yes, I am arrogant… I am arrogant to idiots like you… Idiots like you speak about Catholic church with your ignorance… Good that Satan is controlling you totally from not allowing you to unite with the true church. YOu are free to choose what you want… But, you don’t have any right to talk against Catholic church with your ignorance.

    • Yes, if its not the Catholic church, then idiots like you would translate the books…? The sacred scriptures were written on leather sheets and the script was in Greek for few, some in Egyptian, and some were in ancient Hebrew. Ancient Hebrew was not known at all… That time Catholic church appointed people to pray for it, and people to work on the decoding of the ancient Hebrew which was written in chain style. Means, nobody knows where it starts. It starts from Left to Rights to Left to right like a snake and without gaps. Such tough scripts was decoded after more than 50 years and then written to our language… And now you have English Bible, and that is how you got the Bible now… Had it not been Catholic church, you would never see a Bible like this today. So, don’t know, don’t speak… Its simple…

      • Only the “New Testament” was written in Greek. However, at the time that the Lord Yeshua walked the earth He spoke in Aramaic, which is another, form of Hebrew. Then there is Paleo Hebrew which is also an ancient version. All versions of Hebrew predate Latin, or Greek.

        The ancient prophets said, that in the last days GOD would bring back His people, the Jews, from dispersion, and would restore the Hebrew language. And that is exactly what has happened.

        Latin has been a dead language for centuries. I guess the Lord didn’t see a need to restore it. Today, Latin is only rarely used, in but a very few Catholic Masses. Notice, that HaShem did not promise to restore the language of the Catholics. Your masses have not even merited so much as a casual mention from the living GOD. Oh wait! the scriptures do mention the Whore of Babylon as having many adulterous daughters?

      • Lol… I am amazed that God is very partial, that He loves only Hebrew speaking people and He wants only Hebrew to be united and rest others perish :) That is what you mean :) Keep believing in what you are convinced with :) … God spoke Aramaic which has no script. Have you ever seen the ancient Hebrew script which was written in chain format without gaps and breaking in sentences? Do you know who and how it was translated? That time there were no protestants :) We don’t need Latin to be spoken by all :) No Catholic church says it… You are just assuming :) Don’t be too eager to judge Catholic Church :) As I told you, not only you, but even if the whole Satans army try, you can’t shake the Catholic Church… If you don’t believe in Catholic church, its your wish… But, you have no right to speak against it, with your half knowledge…

      • Dear John Dominic

        Shalom, and love in Jesus of the Bible.

        Do we need to believe in the Catholic Church, to be saved?

        It is common sense that the Bible is a Jewish book. Jesus was not born in Rome, and was not raised in a Catholic convent, reading Latin. Jesus was a Jew, who was raised as a Torah obeying Jew, speaking Hebrew to his family and siblings. The mother of Jesus, Miriam, was a Jewess.

        You might be aware that the Roman Catholic Church, is not the oldest Church. It was formed in and around 325 A.D. The oldest Church was formed by Jews who came to faith in Jesus as their Messiah. They were located in Israel, with the city of Jerusalem as the seat of the first Apostles.

      • John,
        No one said that GOD only loves the Hebrew People, as He Himself says, that He loves all of His children. What HaShem did do, was to pick a people for His name. He chose a people for the Messiah to be born through. It is through the Jews that He would bless all of the people of the earth.

        As for Hebrew, I did go to Hebrew school. Since you have such an interest; perhaps, you should go to your local Synagogue and sign up for classes yourself.

        As for your contention that I have no right to speak out against the unholy Roman Catholic Church, once again you are wrong. As a servant of the Most High GOD, the GOD of Jacob, I not only have the right; I have the obligation to speak out against it. It is satanic!

        Ask the GOD of Jacob to open your eyes before it is too late.

      • See dear, what makes you stand against Catholic church, trying to attack Catholic church with your half knowledge!!! I really don’t understand why many people like you and many other protestants are so eager to speak against Catholic church!!! If you do not like something, you do not have to follow it…! Its simple… We are not forcing you to believe in Catholic church and nobody is forcing you to be a Catholic. So, there is absolutely no point in trying to put all your negative energy to try to prove that Catholic church is wrong and only what you believe is truth…!!! How funny it looks :) See dear…! If you don’t like something, better not talk about it and waste time and express your hatred… There is no need to educate people with what you are convinced with :) Just like you chose to be a non-catholic, we chose to be Catholics… So, what’s your point??? You want everybody to believe what you believe??? World is big, brother… Go out and see, there are many people who speak different languages, from different parts of the world from different backgrounds… Do, you think that God is helpless to make people believe in HIM??? And do you think that you are so able man to do it??? If God wants everybody to be Christians, then He would send His wrath and destroy all the non-christians… But, He doesn’t do it… Because, God gives freedom to each one of us to choose… So, when God Himself is giving abundant of freedom for people to choose, then who are you to decide things for others…! You make me laugh… People like you come from nowhere and raise voices and do nonsense and try to preach the wrong choir… If you are so interested in converting people away from Catholic church, why don’t you go to Muslim countries and preach about God, there??? Are you afraid that they will break your bones??? Speaking about God from comfort zones if very simple… Go to Islamic countries and raise your voice there… All the best… once again, just think, you have no right to decide things for others… Don’t think yourself as too intelligent to teach others and decide things for others :) Live a happy life, pray and help others who are in need… even if people promote hatred, show them what love is… Don’t waste your life promoting hatred and promoting false opinions about Catholic church. If you are not liking Catholic church, its OK… Its OK my bro… Nobody is forcing you to become Catholic :) Always remember and try to look into yourself…! Where does this hatred towards Catholic church come from…! I told you that Satan is very powerful to trick you with valid reasons… That is why you must have faith, which you don’t have it now…

      • Dear John Dominic

        Shalom, and love in Jesus of the Bible.

        I read through a 50 line block of letters. I could not find the answer to my questions. Please answer.

        1. Are you aware, that the Roman Catholic Church was formed more than 250 years after the first Church in Jerusalem?

        2. Are you aware, that Jesus was a Jew, who spoke Hebrew?

      • Dear ivarfjeld, in fact I did not read your question… I mean, it is now that I happened to read your question. Before answering to your question; I would like to ask you, where does your question come from? Does it come from a genuine heart which wants to seek the answers, or does it come from a wicked heart trying to know if I hold the answer… If you are already convinced about what you believe, then its waste of time trying to answer you. I am speaking like this because, I don’t see that you really want to know about something… It appears as a concealed question trying to test if I know or not :) If you think the latter one, then you already got the answer :)

        I can give you answers based on Bible, based on VEDAS, based on Quran, based on common sense… Above all, before speaking anything about God, or church or anything, you really need to know about the Satanic tricks which you really must understand to what extent Satan is influencing you when you ask such questions :)

        My ancestors were strong believers in Christ not from now, but since the time when St. Thomas one of the apostles came to India… But, still I was an atheist until I was 25.

        I wrote the above words which you might feel was probably not the answer for your question… but, if you really understood the words, then you found the answer in it too… If you did not find the answer, then its clear that, you wanted to see what you are already convinced about… if I give you other answers, it will not satisfy you… because you want to see what you want to see :)

        Whenever I wrote, I always encourage people to really understand where their questions come from… Is it a genuine question where you really want to know the answers; or are you trying to test if others know the answers :)

        1) Satan always makes you believe that you know very well about the questions and there is nothing to know further from others nor listen to others…
        2) 99% of the time, when a person performs a miracle, its not actually performed through him by God. Its done by the satan. Thus satan makes people believe that the person is very holy… And Satan benefits in two ways, one is satan could get more crowd follow the pastor who did miracle and follow his church; and the other is, gives the pastor pride and abundant conviction that he is holy and he is capable of doing miracles and he has power to heal… THis is whats happening in the world.
        3) I am sure you might heard about Benny Hinn… He was known for holyspirit. if he touches somebody they fall on ground and many many people believe in Benny Hinn which means many many people are pulled away from the God towards a man, and don’t you think that satan wants this…!
        4) Be sure always, whether you are influenced by Satan, because satan often comes to you as angel, as Jesus on cross, sometimes as a friend who plants questions in your mind which looks 100% correct and practical…

        THat is the reason why God always wanted us to have faith.

        Dear ivarfjeld, I want to answer your questions too, I write now, I am not sure, if these words are coming from God, or coming from Satan. But, I am sure that its not from God, because, I know that I am now influenced by satan to satisfy my ego :) whatever, you too know that you don’t need answers for your questions, because, you were only testing if I knew it or not….

        Dear, Catholic church never says that you need to be a Catholic in order to be saved… In fact, if you read Vatican-II, then you will understand that Catholic church says that there is salvation in every religion and in every faith. People who live a life which is pleasing to God are always Gods children no matter to what religion or faith he may belong. Catholic church never said that there is salvation only in Catholic church.

        Everybody knows that Jesus was Jew, and He came only for the salvation of Jews :) And Jesus himself said that to a woman who wanted healing for her child. where Jesus himself said Jesus answered, “It isn’t right to take the children’s food and throw it to the dogs.Matthew 15:26”… I had been always amazed by the reply given by the women; Matthew 15:27
        “That’s true, sir,” she answered, “but even the dogs eat the leftovers that fall from their masters’ table.” Then Jesus answered her, ‘Woman, you have great faith. Let your desire be granted.’ And from that moment her daughter was well again. Its clear that God loves all his children.

        Dear, I am aware that bible is for Jews alone… All the books in the bible are written for Jews and their community; EXCEPT the 4 Gospels (included in Bible, although, there are other Gospels too)… 4 Gospels are meant for the whole world which is why its called the Good News. And whats the good news? Its Jesus came for us, died on the cross for our sins thus He freed us from our sins to gives us a life of eternity…! Other religion people think “Oh is that so???” God died for us? for what? What is salvation? Who cares where I go after death. Our religion saves us too…! These are the other set of peoples opinions. See dear, you don’t have to teach fish how to swim. And you don’t have to teach a man about what is good or bad. God imprinted on everybody’s heart to find salvation. And do you know why, St. Thomas came to India to preach this good News…!!! I personally believe that God sent St. Thomas the apostle to India (he is the only apostle who travelled this far) because in VEDAS salvation by a virgin birth was told more than some 15,000BC which is much ancient to your Jewish writings :) India was and is the worlds top country when it comes to Spirituality, Philosophy etc.

        But dear, you must understand when the first church was formed :) Jesus said to Peter, you are Rock, I will build my church on this Rock and no power can destroy it. When Jesus died, all the apostles were scattered in fear. That time mother Mary gathered all the apostles and reminded the Jesus teaching and gave them strength and hope… And in the small room the first church was formed. Later persecution lead the apostles leave the place. Then constantine makes it official Catholic church with his roman influence. Its not important if, Romans or Greeks or Persians started…! Whats important is the continuity from Jesus to Peter to Francis today… That is Catholic church… Catholic is not a religion… Catholic means universal…

        There was a pastor who went to a Buddhist monk and started preaching about the Bible. He read the sermon on the mount. Monk listened the first sentence and exclaimed that He is very wise. The pastor continued reading. The monk said, He must be certainly a prophet. The pastor was very happy inside and continued reading, the monk said, Oh! He is certainly the son of God. The pastor continued reading further. The monk, said, Oh!!! He is really GOD… The pastor was happy with himself. Then the pastor was going back to his home, and on the way he met Jesus under the tree… Pastor said, Jesus I converted the Buddhist monk to christian. Jesus smiled and said; “That’s OK… But, what good it made to you except satisfying your Christian EGO”

      • Dear John Dominic

        Shalom.

        Still, I see a lot of words, an no answer to my two simple questions. But I saw a lot of questions, which I would like to answer.

        First to your conclusion:

        Dear ivarfjeld, you must stop looking for answers from Bible.

        My response:

        This is disqualifying you from salvation, and from the Kingdom of Heaven. Since God revel Him self to mankind in the scriptures, you can ONLY discern truth from falsehood, by using your Bible as the Highest authority in matters of God’s character, and nature. If you do not have the Bible as your highest authority, surely Satan will easily take you for a ride.

        You wrote:

        First of all, Bible itself do not evaluate itself…

        My response:

        You do not quote from the Bible, and obviously can not answer your own questions, and claims.

        Malachi 3:10
        Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,’ says the Lord Almighty, ‘and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it.

        Now, the only way to test if the Bible evaluate it self, is to see if God is serious. You need to read, do, and experience.
        Your question:

        Where is it written in the Bible that everything is written in the bible, so everything has to be given reference from Bible?

        My response:

        Where is it written, that all about road traffic, is told when you take your driving license? But with out your driving license, you are disqualified from ever find out how it will to make your way driving a car, through the traffic. You need to know the ABC about God, to be able to have a relationship with Him. This ABC is written in the very Bible you dishonor.

        Your question:

        Or, where is it written in the Bible saying that for everything you need to justify from Bible???

        My response:

        John 14:15
        [ Jesus promises the Holy Spirit ] ‘If you love me, keep my commands.

        Now, before you accept this. You have never experienced the Holy Spirit. But your might have become a very religious person. By the way: Moses walked down from Mt. Sinai with the commanders and instructions from God. They are all written down, and given to you to read in the Bible.

      • Shalom Ivar,

        I hope that the New Year will bring more souls to salvation in Yeshua, and that HaShem will bless you and bless your ministry, that your efforts will bare much fruit.  I always pray that He will increase the size of the endtimes remnant.  Stay strong my brother until the coming of Yeshua.  

        What fantastic times we are living in.  I firmly believe that we were chosen to live in these prophetic days, and that we have a purpose to fulfill.  Please keep me in your prayers, and pray that the Lord will grant me wisdom and patience in the days that follow.  I hope to see you at the wedding where we will dance, and shout for joy in the presence of our GOD and Redeemer.

        Please join me in prayer for John.  Pray that his eyes will be opened and that he will find that narrow road and walk it.

      • Happy New Year John,
        I just wanted to jump into the conversation regarding incest. Just because something happens, and is spoken of in the bible, this in no way implies GOD’s approval. No one goes away thinking that… it happened in the bible so it must be okay, and as for the sons of Lot, they are haters of GOD, and His children to this very day.

      • This is why, I always laugh at the people who thinks and tries to look into Bible for everything… Before picking up any Bible reference, you must know the context of it… Who is Malachi, And which timeline he belonged to and why he wrote his book, and basing on what and what he wanted to speak… So, your reference match nothing and Malachi chapter has got nothing to do with your reference. Because, the reason for those words and context do not match for your way of thinking.

        Well, if it is so, then Jesus said to cut your eyes and legs, because they have sinned (if you think your eyes and body did not sinned then you can keep them)… Its in Bible… So why cant you cut your body dear :) That is why context and situation is more important in bible :)

        That is why Catholic church is still same… But your protestants are 2864 denominations like Pentecostal, Lutherans, Baptists, Advent, Jehovites, CSI, London Mission, etc. And every week there are 2 churches coming up newly :) The main reason is; everybody interprets the Bible and preach, people who do not like, they go out and start their own church :) That is why its so funny for me…

        Coming to talk about my salvation…! You have got no right to decide about my salvation. When God Himself is so merciful in forgiving my sins, you are nothing to stop God in loving me. Gods love is more stronger that can break all the human forces which try to restrict His love for me. I believe that “Even if I go to Hell for my Sins, Still God would come in search of me and Find me… He will certainly come for me…” This is my faith…. So better, do not come in between Me and My God trying to Judge with your human wicked mind. You are nobody to talk about my salvation. Its God who decide things for me and for everybody. Do not be so eager to judge others salvation with your mediocre knowledge.

        If you really look into, you have all the answers, but you are not ready to accept, because you want the answers what you are expecting… That is why Jesus always told; let those who has ears can hear :)

      • In Bible there is reference for Father and daughter Sex :) And brother and sister sex :) So why don’t you refer them and encourage Incest :) That is why Catholic church caution us, not to misuse the Bible interpretations… Because if you start interpreting with your knowledge 2864 churches is the result :) hahaha…

      • John Dominic

        Shalom, and love in Jesus.

        You are a blasphemer and mocker of the Bible, and I will not permit you to continue to comment on this site. Please do not even write another comment. Because you will be spammed and banished from this site.

  31. Padre Pio’s stigmata is real. Satan tried in many ways to cover it up, often influencing the authorities to write against Padre Pio. Padre Pio’s Body never decayed. Idiots tried to speak that Padre Pio faked stigmata with carbolic acid… haha lol… What else he could use it for, except to disinfect his wounds. FYI, I am a Biomaterial scientist. So, idiots don’t have to explain me about the Carbolic acid. lol… Padre Pio was a great saint. And he was with God and God was with him. Nobody can separate him from the love of God. No matter how harder you try to prove that his stigmata was fake, still you cant prove anything… Because, truth is truth, and truth doesn’t need proof… Only lie needs proof to project lie as truth. So keep trying lol… Padre Pio is saint.

      • Yes dear… Catholic church is real… That is why many people who are influenced by satan try to speak against Catholic church. But, Catholic church doesn’t criticise anybody. Because, they don’t have to. A person who does wrong explains more and implant more logics to prove that he is correct. But, fact is fact. No matter how harder idiots try, they cant even scratch Catholic church. Because God is there in it, and Satan nor people can never win over it. in history, there were some mistakes by the church, that has to be rectified, but starting a new church (protestants) is not the solution. It is pure product of Satanic thinking. Satan always shows very valid reasons. That is why obedience is more important. I am sure that 99% of the Protestants never have that in them. They study theology for 4 years and little philosophy and they come to argue. Catholic priests study for 9 to 15 years. So, keep in mind that empty vessels make more noise. Catholic church walls can never be shaken. There are 2864 denominations in protestant churches and every week 2 new churches are coming up. And, this is the clear indications that, people are starting their own church and faking that its started by the God. Jesus said to Peter clearly, “Peter you are Rock, I will build my church on you”… Read it again, Jesus said Church, but not churches…

      • Dear Domenic

        Shalom, and love in Jesus.

        You wrote:

        That is why many people who are influenced by Satan try to speak against Catholic church.

        My comment:

        The issue in this article, is stigmata. Keep in mind that Satan has the power and ability to perform miracles.

        The question is not only if stigmata are faked by Catholic priests, or a physical reality. But, rather if there are any evidence in scripture, that God let a single person walk around with this kind of signals from heaven?

        Kindly show me the verses you have found in the Bible.

      • 1Peter 4:13 But rejoice in the degree that you have shared in the sufferings of Christ,..

        Stigmata is the witness for Jesus’s sufferings on the Cross. Satan cannot impose this into humans since he is denying Lord’s death on the Cross is for salvation.

      • Dear Oldman.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        Stigmata is the witness for Jesus’s sufferings on the Cross

        My comment:

        Jesus suffering on the cross, SHOULD NOT be copied. It is mocking of the cross. Jesus did this ONCE and for ALL.

        Hebrews 7:27
        Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself.

        To suffer for Christ, is to suffer for telling the truth, and doing the will of the Father.

      • Dear ivarfjeld, its just your opinion that Catholic church fakes about Stigmata :) Its just your opinion… I hope you are aware that the same Catholic church stopped Padre Pio celebrating mass in public, and Same Catholic church stopped Padre Pio completely. Same Catholic church sent investigators officially from Vatican to investigate Padre Pio. Padre Pio told the officials that now you might not believe in my words, but Karol (pope John Paul-II) will become pope at least that time you believe my words. Padre Pio was tormented and suppressed by some officials in Vatican. It was all the Satan which was doing. Padre Pio, never did publicity saying that I have Stigmata, some and see and Padre Pio, never said that I am very holy, so I have stigmata. He always hid his stigmata, because he was highly holy that he often thought that he is the most sinner and he always prayed God to take it away from him and I am not worth for it…

        Dear ivarfjeld where is it written in the Bible that Stigmata is not real??? Something which is not written in the bible has to be considered as totally wrong??? Only after Padre pio’s death, the church officially recognised his words. Padre pio always said that I never had any power to heal others, its their faith which healed them. Padre pio at his last stage he won over the Satan… Now he is Saint… There are many saints who became saints after some 600 years too… So, Catholic church is not biased… Church gives saints to us, to pray with them intercessory and also to get inspiration and exemplary life from them… You know what is the biggest miracle of St. Francis of Assisi…? Even after 700 years, there are still young men who wants to become Friars…

        My brother recently joined Capuchins too to become a friar. He was highly qualified Engineer and worked in Japan. He quit his job, monkey and position and took up the vows of humility, poverty, and chastity. Last time when I went to see him, He was working in fields as a coolie (considered very low standard job in India), and one more time when I went to see him, he was cleaning the cattle shed, cleaning the dung and urine of cattle and giving them bath. And his spiritual director was washing dishes and was removing weeds in fields along with others… You know one more thing??? They sleep on floor with no question of comforts. That is the strength of Catholic Church… You might have seen few Catholics who might have set wrong impression on you :)

        I know about Capuchins, Jesus said clearly, others must believe in God by your actions, but not by your preaching or words :) Start to live an exemplary life :) This is what God wants from you and I and everyone…

    • Dear ivarfjeld, you must stop looking for answers from Bible :)
      First of all, Bible itself do not evaluate itself… Where is it written in the Bible that everything is written in the bible, so everything has to be given reference from Bible? Or, where is it written in the Bible saying that for everything you need to justify from Bible??? So, you follow and try to look up for everything from Bible??? How about Lot slept and impregnated his own two daughters? How about brother and sister sex relations in Bible??? How about divorce according to the Moses laws…? everything is from bible..! So, why don’t you give it a reference and preach in the public saying that incest and taboo is correct and Bible supports them…! People like you do not know how to interpret the Biblical meanings… The reason is simple, non-Catholics take Bible as whatever they want… At least for Catholic church, the meanings are interpreted by the highly learned scholars and theologians. But, you protestants are only based on individual thinking combined with a pride that “I KNOW”… See dear, you are not the only person in this world who know about Bible… And definitely you are not the only one to have understood Bible correctly… In Bible, Jesus said very clearly, if your right eye appear sinful to you then, cut it off, its better to enter into heaven with one eye… So why don’t you people Just practice what God said…! God said to the young rich man in the Gospel who said that he follows all the 10 commandments… Jesus was happy, and told him, if its so, then sell all your properties and follow me… But he could not do that :) At least can you do that…! STOP LOOKING FOR EVERYTHING INTO BIBLE… In Bible, God himself told men to make idols, Read Numbers Chapter… God orders Moses to make Bronze serpent (you know that serpent is considered as Satan), replace the words with Satan, it reads; God ordered Moses to make Bronze satan and hang it on the high post. Whoever sees the bronze satan shall come back to life from the snakes bite… God HImself ordered to make the Cherubim with Angels on it and all the design and calculations was given by HIM… In Bible the two Gospels which speaks about the family tree of Jesus, doesn’t match… And what is true then…! Bible said clearly that the purpose of Bible is to bring salvation for Humans… Its not a Search and Find Answers Book…

      Where is it written in the bible that you can use computers, laptops??? Its written in the Bible that every year you have to go to the temple of God and repent and pay penance for you sins (ox, calf, birds, sheep) depending on the severity of sin and the penance suggested by priest… Are you doing those…??? When you yourself do not follow anything written in Bible, then why do you look for answers in bible…!

      • John,
        We no longer have to go to the temple to sacrifice animals for our sins. The ultimate sacrifice has already been made on our behalf, by Yeshua. When the temple is rebuilt we will still give offerings such as grain, ect. We will still celebrate the Feast of Sukkot. Who knows what else we will be doing. However, the shedding of blood has already met all of the holy redemptive requirements for all time. “It is finished!”

    • Ivar,

      You wrote – “To suffer for Christ, is to suffer for telling the truth, and doing the will of the Father.”

      Absolutely Correct. But you conceals the sufferings only for “telling the Truth”.

      (Luke 9:23) Taking our own cross DAILY to follow Jesus, is not only “telling the Truth.”

      It is all
      – praying for poor souls
      – self denial
      – feel pain of suffering
      – Overcome temptations
      – Agonised over the sins of mankind
      And many more…

      Those who reject HIM today hurt HIM more because HE died for their sins.

      • Dear Oldman

        Shalom.

        You are in error. You are not persecuted, for praying for poor souls. This is Roman Catholic non sense. Paul was suffering because he preached the gospel, boldly, about sin, idol worship, idolatry, etc. He spoke about sinners perishing, if they are not willing to repent.

        It is also Roman Catholic non sense to talk about suffering, because you have to overcome temptations. Without being born again by the spirit of God, you will suffer because you entertain falsehood and take pleasure in sins. You are under God’s rebuke and judgment, till the day you stop all your evil doing.

      • He suffered for me for my sin. And He said follow my Way.
        So, I am suffering mentally (by praying) and sometimes physically (by telling truth to others ) for Him to help Him to save the souls.

        It is not of your/our work to save souls. It is purely because of the Grace of God to save souls.

        Could you please tell me any 100% pure Church in the world. If you can name one, please do it. I wonder it may be yours!

      • Oldman

        Shalom, and love in Jesus.

        Be holy. Because of lack of Holiness, hundreds of millions of people will not see God. No one is perfect, besides the Word of God.

        The Word of God is flawless. So if you continue in your war against the Word of God, twisting it, blaspheming it, and nullify it by your Church’s traditions, you shall face eternal condemnation.

  32. Padre Pio, had Stigmata, He prayed many times to God, to take it away from him. Stigmata is too painful to bear. Padre Pio prayed God and during his last years, God took the stigmata back. That is why you don’t find Stigmata during his last death days. More over, Carbolic acid is nothing but Phenol which is known antiseptic from many years. What else Padre Pio use phenol if not for cleaning his wounds! Its something like one dog barks and rest of the dogs begin barking. Looks like many of you are so happy when some idiots say that Padre Pio’s stigmata was not real :) hahaha, it has got nothing to do with what you believe or what you don’t believe… It doesn’t help Padre Pio in anyways… He was already a saint, and he doesn’t need you to believe in his stigmata. God knows it, and God loves him and he loves him. As God told in the New testament, go and cry for yourself and your children :P Stop your nonsense about Padre Pio’s stigmata… Nobody is forcing you believe… If you believe, or don’t believe nobody lose or gain anything :P

  33. Jesus paid a debt He did not owe, we owed a debt we could not pay. When He said, it is finished! From the cross, He was stating, His sacrifice was enough to revoncile us back to God. HIS BLOOD WAS MORE THAN ENOUGH TO COVER YOUR SINS. HAT CAN WASH AWAY MY SINS? NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD OF JESUS#! HIS BLOOD PAID THE PRICE! STIGMATA IS SELF SERVED!!!, DEMONIC!!!!, AND TAKES THE GLORY AWAY FROM THE PRICE HE PAID ON CALVARY!!! Only He is worthy to be worshipped, and praised! Not MARY (she was only a vessel that carried the saviour), Not the Pope, not the saints, disciples, or anyone will forgive your sins and get you into Heaven except for JESUS CHRIST!!

    • Stigmata – Christ Jesus’ Gift

      Stigmata represents a very real connection with the sufferings of Christ. This is the FINAL STAGE of a person in relation with Christ.

      Dear Rochelle Weems, Humility is the behavior we found with Stigmata holders; which (humility) is absolutely not of Satan.

      • Hi Oldman…..

        FINAL STAGE is
        1Cor15
        51 Listen, I will tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed – 52 in a moment, in the blinking of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality.
        &
        1Cor13
        12 For now we see in a mirror indirectly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know in part, but then I will know fully, just as I have been fully known.

        Repent and recieve Jesus

    • Trying to share bible truths with Catholics is like running an endless marathon, with your face always to the wind. They don’t realize, either because they choose not to, or because they are spiritually blinded, that they serve a different god, and they preach a different gospel than the one preached by Jesus. In the end they will perish, because,”they loved not the truth, but took pleasure in unrighteousness.

      • l agree completely with you Denise and with Rochelle and l came to the conclusion a long time ago the most of he Catholics DO NOT WANT TON HEAR THE TRUTH AND ARE SPIRITUALLY BLIND

      • I get so tired of stupid scriptural arguments, over matters that can be resolved by googling a scripture or two, understanding its context, and prayerfully studying to find biblical answers.

        As for the harvest, we are to be planting seeds, and the angels will do the reaping . The hour is late and and the workers are few. There comes a time, if a person doesn’t want to listen to sound doctrine, and instead choose the doctrines of demons, that we are to leave them to their own choices.
        Instead of keeping true believers bound up in these useless banters, we are admonished to kick the dust from off of our shoes and move on. We are also instructed not to cast our pearls before swine.
        Enough is enough!

      • That is why l don’t bother to say much these days unless l feel that an answer is really required, l was recently kicked out of my cell group for speaking STRICTLY SCRIPTURAL TRUTH and l was really upset but the LORD told me to ”shake the dust off my shoes” and l received in my spirit to; ”no longer cast pearl before the swine” as the ladies concerned were only happy to have their ears tickled, AND these ladies were protestant, so it’s happening in many different denominations..

      • I have experienced similar encounters. Time is so short that we cannot allow unbelief, or satanic beliefs to consume our time. This is time that could be better spent.

        As the days wax worse we must be focused on the commission that we have been charged with, that of sharing the gospel of Jesus.

        As the spread of Babylonian heresies continue to gain in popularity, and strength, and infect the Church, her whorish daughters march in lockstep against the Most High, and against His Son.

        I believe that soon we, both in Europe, and here in America, will feel the full weight of Communism, New Age, Islamism, Catholicism, and all of the other wicked isms, that surround us.

        Some of us will be beheaded, others thrown into prison. In Acts, It says; that it is through much tribulation, that we must enter into the Kingdom of GOD! I suppose that’s the refinement by fire that many believers don’t talk much about.

  34. Oldman,
    First of all, these charlatans haven’t got a clue about the sufferings of Christ, none of us mere mortals do. Secondly, Yeshua’s sacrifice was complete, and it requires nothing to be added to it. Thirdly, it is unbiblical, and the scriptures tell us expressly, that we are to neither add to, nor take away from, GOD’s word, Period! Have you ever heard these immortal words? ‘GOD shares His Glory with NO MAN!’

  35. 1. Conclusion: The Stigmata – Mystical Wounds

    Apostle Paul himself may have been the first to have borne it. ( but some conveniently say that he was speaking about the beatings and lashes )

    Galatians 6:17 (KJV) :- From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.

    Philippians 3:10 - My aim is to know him, to experience the power of his resurrection, to share in his sufferings, and to be like him in his death,

    2. Why only Catholics have had Mystical Wounds:

    We will get what we ask for: Most Catholics ask for sufferings than blessings!!!

    • Possibly because beatings, stoneings, imprisonment, and lashes were real. Paul speaks explicitly to these things, he names them, they are real sufferings, not mystical!

      It is you, who conveniently imposes stigmata, where they are NOT mentioned!

  36. dont just judge others belief…we dont know what really is the truth…but we can assure that when we have faith to God and work to it…we can be his children…GOD BLESS..

  37. Those Pagans needs delivery from unclean spirit by the power of blood of beloved Jesus

    4 Surely he hath borne our griefes, and caried our sorrowes: yet we did esteeme him striken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
    5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was vpon him, and with his stripes we are healed.

    no need for stigmatas……it is so sad

  38. Yes. Mary, the demonic catholic creation, the idol who must be ”honoured” and venerated even contrary to the written word of God, can do this. Not the actual Mary of the Bible.

    • How could you aay that? You are insultinf the Mother of God, Jesus. How dare you???? So you wven know waht veneration and imtercesipn really means. You are blind in beinf foolwd by your false teacher. Read again your post, you just insulted God’s mother.

      • He did not just insult the mother of G_D. He insulted Catholicism’s idolatry, i.e., making Mary into an idol, something that HaShem forbids!
        Although, I’m sure that you are aware of what he was saying, so stop your hysterical grandstanding, and worship the Creator, not the created.
        Hi Ivar!

  39. Those Stigmata are real. Only non- and anti-Catholics would not accept it becaise it does not happen to them. This also proves that Catholic Church Jesus founded into St. Peter the first Pope (Matt. 16:14-20) – Jesus asksd His disciple who He is and Peter replied that He is the Messiah, the Son of the Living God. Jesus replied that is not the humans who told Himthis but His Father in Heaven. “And I tell, you are Peter & upon this rock, I will build my church and I will give you they keys to the gates of heaven… He told the Disciples not to tell thsi to anyone. IS THERE A STIGMATA IN THE BIBLE? YES!!!
    STIGMATA OF ST. PAUL, 2 COR. 12:7-10 it was an act of devil but not as punishment to Paul but an act the Lord allowed that so He could keep on being a humble servant. “Of course, I am now refering to the wonderful things I saw. One of Satan’s angels was sent to make me suffer terribly, so that I would not feel too proud. 3x I beg ged the Lord to make my suffering go away. But He replied, ‘MY KINDENESS (or Help) IS ALL YOU NEED (or I have given you enough strenght). MY POWER IS STRONGEST WHEN YOU ARE WEAK’. ‘So if Christ keeps giving me His power, I will gladly brag about how weak I am.” COL. 1:24-25 accepting whatever challenges ang pains oneself or a servant could encounter “I am glad that I can suffer for you. I am pleased also that in MY OWN BODY I can continue the SUFFERING of Christ’. God’s plan was to make me a servant of His church and to sn

    • Again Jay, you are superimposing your own words onto the text. It says that Paul had a thorn in his side. That doesn’t sound like a stigmata.
      Secondly, neither Paul, nor Scripture, saw a need to describe Paul’s ailment, and neither should we. This is why GOD gives us the admonition……”Do not add or take away from My words!” (emphasis mine)

  40. Continuation: Col. 1: 24-25 [25] God’s plan was to make mea servant of His church Nd to send me to preach His complete message to you”. This are also from St. Peter.

    There was also a person who suffered in a like way but worst. Job, who personaly Satan (Lucifer) made Him suffer but that was while He was still the right hand angel of God who gave him the order. So, it is clear it is not a demonic possesion but an act of faith through stigmata. Maybe not all came directly feom the devil but from Jesus Himself or because He could not take to hurt by His own power but to challenge your faith and to continue serving Him He allowed such act. God, the Divine Trinity would not hurt us intentionaly just to suffer like the devil but for His servant to pursue the service they have promised. We believe in the bible despite that we have never seen even a single person in the bible nor knew where it actually came or who wrote them, but again, WE BELIEVE. Would anyone wants to suffer for the rest of their life? None! But there are people willing to serve God even if that means they could suffer more than they could have ever imagine or take. The verse of do not let anyone or do not your left hand waht your right hand does is not applicable in this issue. That verse is ahout people who are show-offs and want themselves to praised but not actually to serve God as their ultimate master. The massage also implies to oyr actions that God knows but we do not need to tell anyone and let Him glorify you in whatever way He wills.

    Let us remember the terrible way of the death of the Apostles, God’s beloved saints. People question the stigmata. But the my question is Can they, can we accept such way of faith? Have we truly served the and loved Him with all our heart, mind and spirit. For me, everytime,though I am quiet new or a begginer in answering questions about Carholic faith and how orhers insult thw church, I believe this is a way that I make myself close to God and to be a better person and servant. Many are unworthy but Jesus Himself chosen them like tax collectors, even an ex-protitute.

    To be holy is a very hard thing to do for us who do not think always of Gods love and grace. Tehere are people that despite of poverty, they have that strong andunsurrending faith compared to us fails ro give thanks for the food we eat, a house that shelters us and God us our true creator.

    Wheter oneself believe in Stigmata or any miracle with pain or whatever it is, it is the proof of The TRUE GOD’s existence and unfailing Love; Thsi is the true massage of these all.

    • What suffering? Yeshua suffered beyond anything that we could imagine. These “stigmata” charlatans don’t suffer. They just parade around like fools in an effort to be noticed as holy. There was a purpose for Yeshua’s suffering, He suffered for the sins of the world. Does anyone really believe that HaShem would appreciate anyone claiming to share in His Son’s work? It was FINISHED at the cross! Remember, G_D shares His glory with NO MAN!

    • Dear deniseandros, you wrote “Yeshua finished suffering on the Cross”.

      But tell me one of this::
      What if a person commit a terrible sin and turn back to God?
      1) Jesus feels sad / agony / suffer ?
      2) Jesus feels great joy and rejoice ?
      If Heaven rejoices when a sinner repents and turned towards God is true, the opposite is also true.

      Stigmata – Its really come from God

      • Hi Oldman,
        I fail to follow your line of reasoning. Example: If GOD hates sin? then does it follow that the opposite is also true, and that He also loves sin? You see, this is the danger of adding too, or taking away from scripture.
        There is no biblical evidence of anyone having stigmatas.
        As for a person turning back to GOD, that is repentance. Angelic rejoicing when a person is saved is not stigmata, It’s rejoicing, period!
        I wonder how many people would have “stigmatas” if they actually had to earn them the way Yeshua did, by crucifixion, now that was suffering. I’ll bet the number of stigmataties would greatly diminish. Nobody hung on that cross but Yeshua, and nobody can share in his work or in His glory.

      • As we draw closer and closer to Him, we will become more like Him and His Traits will become familiar to us. His Love we will feel. His Pain will become ours.

        Dear deniseandros, you didn’t answer my question:
        If a person doing a terrible sin then Jesus feels suffering OR He rejoice?

      • Bottom line……Yeshua died and suffered on that cross alone. We have no share in the redemption of sin, except for our own undeserved salvation, and our eternal gratitude for what He alone, accomplished on that cross.

        How much agony do those bearing these false stigmata go through? They mystically have these wounds appear without the injury. How convenient!

        Yeshua suffered to pay for our sins. He was, and remains to this day, the only man to have ever lived a sinless life. This is what qualified Him to be the sinless, sacrificial Lamb of GOD! No man, not even an angel of GOD shares in this work.

        Now Peter, who was crucified, chose to be crucified upside down because he said that he was unworthy to be crucified in the same manner as his Lord. Now that’s humility! and that was Peter.

        Your words are exactly that! They are your words, taken from Catholic teachings, they are not Yeshua’s. As we draw closer to Him we are to become more like him by keeping His commandments and sharing the eternal gospel with others. Not running around with bloody palms to show off, as a way of demonstrating to others how pious we are.

        If you continue in your attempt to sully the true word of GOD with false Catholic doctrine, then you will also share in the sins of that satanic cult.

        Do not be just an Oldman, be a wise one as well, and cut all ties with that demonic, Catholic cabal.
        `

      • Dear deniseandros,
        Lastly, according to you, I am also sharing the sins of that satanic cult.
        Will Jesus rejoice because of my act OR saddened?

    • Oldman, as to your question to Denise, may I humbly answer it. You asked: ” If a person doing a terrible sin then Jesus feels suffering OR He rejoice?” My answer: Jesus feels saddened of course if a person sins, BUT if that person repents and turns away from any sin, then Jesus and all of Heaven rejoices! The stigmata occurrences are still being hotly debated as to whether it’s Biblical, or just demonic manifestations or even genuine! As for me, true or not, what is its effect on me? More importantly, does believing it make me a better Christian? Or it just adds more confusion to me and make me leave the “right path” and go astray? I say, read the Bible and see if it is against ANY teaching or commandment, and if it is, then stay clear of it. Don’t be distracted by unnecessary things or detours and concentrate on getting on the straight and right path to Heaven! God bless!

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