Scientists Urge UN to Prepare for Alien Invasion

Scientists say the United Nations needs to form a Supra-Earth division, to prepare the world for alien contact.

Scientists Warn the world of alien invasion.

Scientists are saying the aliens may not be friendly and we need to prepare.  The scientist comments are from the Philosophical Transactions of  The Royal Society.  They discuss the biology and anatomy aspects as well as how religion would be affected world-wide.

Professor John Zarnecki of the Open University and Dr Martin Dominik of the University of St Andrews agree that chaos can be avoided if there is global cooperation in forming an international political body to head up the job. They agree that a body already exists within the UN, the Committe on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space.

Last year, there was talk in the news about an ambassador being appointed for alien contact within the United Nations. It was not confirmed, nor completely denied.

Simon Conway Morris of Cambridge University asserts that alien worlds are Darwinian and they could have violent tendencies. Ted Peters, professor of systematic theology thinks major world religions would collapse if the world came in contact with aliens. He wrote:

“Because our religious traditions formulated their key beliefs within an ancient world view now out of date, would shocking new knowledge dislodge our pre-modern dogmas?

Are religious believers Earth-centric, so that contact with ET would de-centre and marginalize our sense of self-importance?

Do our traditional religions rank us human beings on top of life’s hierarchy, so if we meet ETI who are smarter than us will we lose our superior rank? If we are created in God’s image, as the biblical traditions teach, will we have to share that divine image with our new neighbors?”

He believes that religion would have to “expand” and include aliens as apart of God’s creation.

Source: Guardian.co.uk

My comment:

I believe governments are preparing to tell the masses that we are to be invaded by aliens and that the world must come together as one as we learn how to adjust to this new ‘reality.”

Remember, just a few weeks ago, NASA said they could “prove” alien life forms exist on earth.

The Vatican has told it’s members that aliens most likely exist and that Catholics can believe in them. Their chief astronomer has stated that aliens may not need redemption and may not have original sin. He said we should consider aliens our “brothers and sisters”. What?! Please stop the train and let me off. The Chief Astronomer also said that we should baptize aliens and that no matter how many tentacles they have, they may have souls.

I believe the Vatican is ahead of the curve on everything alien. They know there will be disclosure and is slowly acclimating the public by coming out making these statements over the past few years.

The bird and fish deaths may eventually be blamed on invisible UFO’s. There is a lot of chatter about this on the internet. I believe that the whole alien agenda will somehow be used to try to collapse Christianity and reduce Christ to an invention of the aliens.  Aliens contacting earth will bring “new technology” to save the environment and Bible-believing Christians will interfere with the “evolution of man and the earth.” This of course is only my opinion on where this could all go.

I know one thing. Aliens, if they exist are demonic. They are not some outer-space phenomena, but rather demonic entities on assignment from Satan. Some say they are the Nephillim discussed in Genesis 6:

Genesis 6: 1-6

“Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God (bene Elohim) saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose.”

I don’t know if that is true and it really doesn’t matter. The devil wants control of the earth and wants to be worshiped and he is in the process of setting up his copy-cat kingdom.

Ephesians 6:12

“For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.”

If there is breaking news that aliens are invading the earth, know that they are not our brothers, and that come to confuse the minds of men. They come to deny the One True God and His Word and want nothing more than to drag as many people as they can to hell with them.

Written by Sue

360 responses to “Scientists Urge UN to Prepare for Alien Invasion

  1. Aliens have been here for centuries living in underground bases, giving glimpses of themselves and many have seen them, phil schneider on youtube gives some interesting revalations or at least he did before he was bumped off. These so called aliens tho are satanic deceptions, it has been a plan for centuries to seduce mankind and they are coming to the time of the ultimate seduction, no more flirting but full on revalation. They are demons and they will distract and turn away the masses from christ, you will see them offer great advances in medicine and engineering ( the military uses their technology now )and they will claim to be able to help us achieve great things, you may even see some aliens claiming to be friends whilst another race of aliens wants to destroy us thus seducing even more. Recently the plaedians left to defend their own planet from attack, this of course is another seduction, all part of the plan to confuse and destroy the gospel.

    • I’m not trying to be offensive; I am open to hearing and critically analyzing any ideas. I read your post and I have some questions that I hoped you could answer for me and yourself. First of all you mention superior beings that reside within the earth, who are essentially pulling the strings of mankind. Why would an omnipotent being or a vastly technology superior race bother even giving us a second thought? Compared to them we would be ants, they wouldn’t care about deceiving us, leading us astray, we would be insignificant. If any species was capable of interstellar space travel they could wipe out our entire planet in a moment. These seductions, careful calculations and plans would be meaningless and pointless. To summarize I just don’t see any logic behind it, a superior alien race would have zero benefit from doing this.

      • I would like to reply to your last comment. Jesus said that as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the coming of the Son of Man. When researched, Genesis 6 shows that the “sons of God” and the daughters of men were cohabitating and producing a mutant race. We know that race as Nephilim. They were part human, part spirit. The fallen angels were teaching mankind how to produce what is now being called ‘transhumans’=avatars and chimera. When God caused the flood, these beings lost their physical bodies. They are now, and have been attempting to re-create bodies in which to inhabit: just as Jesus said they would. There is much information on this online. When Jesus met the demonically possessed boy in the Gadarenes, and was going to cast out the demons, they asked him if they could go into the bodies of the swine…which subsequetly jumped into the water and drown. This, to me, is more evidence of what was going on in Gen. 6, and what is happening today. These demon spirits need bodies. They cannot reproduce as they did in Gen. 6, hence, technology. Thank you for letting me comment.

    • You see the thing is Man is very important, especially important to God. God loves his creation and has restored us back to himself through the sacrifice of Jesus for our sins, because of Adam and Eve falling from Grace. So because he values and loves us so much, Satan wants to deceive us into thinking we are nothing, hence in comes the Aliens. Trying to make us think we are of little significance to the entire picture of things. So by using this agenda that tommy3lions has talked about, it tries to make us look like we know nothing, hence taking our worthiness away, causing us to question as to whether there is a God at all. Of course their is a God, who created the Universe and man kind and these beings who are trying to make us believe they are aliens. We are significant and very important to God, he has given us through the redemptive blood of Jesus the power over these spirits because he rendered them powerless at the Cross. So we have a destiny and are loved by the creator of the universe who will allow us to rule the universe with him, when Jesus returns to the earth. Read the bible it will tell you all about the plans God has for us. Nothing is hidden, he has told us everything in his Word, the Bible.

      • Who are we as humans to put a limit on what God is capable of creating or doing. And then who are we as sinners to say God has to tell us everything he decides to do? He is our father he does not have to tell us everything he decides to create. Do you have to tell your children everything you ever did and why? No. So don’t put limits on gods ability or desires to create whatever he wants when. he wants. Without having to inform us of his every move…but we can’t say for certain aliens are Gods creation or that they are Satan’s. But if I ever meet an alien I would treat them. As I would anyone else I would tell them about God and his wonderful son Jesus and I would let them lead me astray I would continue to live my life by gods word regardless of what they say just as I do with people of this planet.

    • Sounds a little like Sherry Shriner. I do not believe aliens are anything but extra dimensional brings… Beni Elohim fallen Angels that fell with Lucifer. They do not inhabit other planets, thus the Bible only speaks to everything in Heaven, on the Earth, and beneath the Earth. It doesn’t mention planet X, or the Pleades, or any life anywhere other that heaven, Earth and below. So that biblical reference does not exclude underground bases, but I believe that would be hybrid races. The so called aliens from another planet will be liars from the heavens… Angels who will be leaving their abode, like in Jude… To appear in our physical world. The great delusion, that will lead many astray.
      Most churches NEVER preach this or warn their sheep, so many will lose faith when the so-called aliens claim they planted us or seeded us here on Earth, and the religions were devised to give false hope.

      • I agree…they are fallen angels. Do not be deceived by what our governments will try to tell you. They are not from another planet…

      • Are you guys serious? Is this UFO stuff real? I am not being sarcastic, but this whole blog blew my mind…UFOs and demonic underworlds….come on guys…is this real..?

      • I agree, but I believe the devils are sitting traps on Mars and places to help make people believe there is other beings on other planets. Nothing can be there but the angels, or fallen angels…

      • What is so hard to believe? If the devil can masquerade as an angel of light, it is logical to realize that he and his demons can masquerade as aliens.

      • Fifth trumpet: The fifth angel sounds and a star falls from heaven “to the Earth”….he opens the bottomless pit (on the Earth). Rev 9

        Sixth trumpet: The bible does mention these fallen angels living “at” the Euphrates and that fire comes out of their mouths. Rev. 13

      • Believe it…they are real. And the reason they have not shown themselves full on before now is that they knew it was not their time. They now know that Satan is getting ready to take over an actual physical body and be the final “antichrist” and they will be more rampant until Jesus returns. So…they will be given the power to deceive many…and will be more and more “out there” …just prepare yourself and believe. They are real and watch out…put on the full armour of God!

  2. “The Chief Astronomer also said that we should baptize aliens and that no matter how many tentacles they have, they may have souls.”

    When I first read this, it got me to thinking – I wonder if they would baptize my cats so they will go to heaven with me? (Please note the sarcasm here.)

    I agree wholeheartedly about the Nephilim, since it will be as in the days of Noah. I also believe that when Jesus comes for his bride, and the Church disappears, they will say that it was the UFOs who did it. We will be removed so that they can have the Utopia they have always wanted. I believe that this could possibly be the great deception.

  3. The Coming Great Deception

    In 2nd Thessalonians 2:11 God says he will send a great deception upon them, and they will believe all these lies. Then they will be condemned for not believing the truth and for enjoying the evil they do.

    For false christs and false prophets will rise and show “great signs and wonders” to deceive, if possible, even the elect.” Matthew 24:24 “Great Signs and Wonders” “Even the Elect?”

    What would make even the elect be deceived? UFO’s, demons or aliens in what ever form they want to be in to deceive.

    According to 2nd Corinthians 11:14 “And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.” Thats right fallen angels can take any form they want to even light. Can you image fallen angels returning to earth in the form of aliens in UFO’s claiming they made all of the religions? I think a good portion of the elect would be deceived and even believe this lie. UFO sightings are increasing monthly. Why? Because I believe satan knows his time is short and he is prepairing for The Coming Great Deception.

    Jesus said, when responding to the disciples question about His Second Coming and the End of the Age, warned them repeatedly about deception. He indicated that deception would be a serious problem in the last days and that “many people would fall.” So great would be the deception that He warned us about it ahead of time.

    Revelations 13:11-14 “And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men. Because of the signs “he was given power to do on behalf of the first beast,” he deceived the inhabitants of the earth.

    My question is why not in the form of aliens? It fits right in with the vaticans other forms of wierd deceptions. We would the Vatican also jump to baptise something that may be demonic such aliens? We have no idea what these entities may be.

    2nd Thessalonians 2:3-4 Don’t let anyone deceive you “in any way,” for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

    Make sure your faith is strong and beyond deception. As christians we dont fight against things in this world but as Ephesians 6:12 says “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the “heavenly realms.”

    Could “Heavenly Realms” be a correlation with the decption of the fallen angels? Could fallen angels return in the form of aliens. I think they could which I know is debatable.

    Winston Churchill was accused of ordering a cover-up of a Second World War encounter between a UFO and a RAF bomber because he feared public “panic” and loss of faith in religion, newly released secret files disclose.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/7926037/UFO-files-Winston-Churchill-feared-panic-over-Second-World-War-RAF-incident.html

    Listen to Reagan

    I agree with them.

  4. Whatever is at work here, we believers in Christ must hold fast to God’s Word.

    I agree with Sue’s article completely: especially when she says: I know one thing. Aliens, if they exist are demonic. They are not some outer-space phenomena, but rather demonic entities on assignment from Satan.

    But there is power in the name of Jesus Christ. For Ephesians 6:12 does tell us to put on the full armor of Christ.

    God Bless.

    • You are absolutely right! It is biblical:Ephesians 2:2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience–
      God does let us know everything through His word!

      • You are nothing else as a horde of provoked lunatics, to those is unfortunately allowed to spread their minced world view !
        Almost every single post here proves that in itself !
        And about your so-called God there barely is more to say than this:
        In the beginning, Man createt God – and in the image of Man created he him

        And Man gave unto God a multitude of names, that he might be the lord of all the earth, when it was suited to Man

        THIS is at least an elementary truth, which you should sink in your most innner selves to think extensively about it once…

        kind regards,

        Fenrir

      • *edit ->> to the D.C. Doug dude (sry, but there was no reply button, btw – nice trick, dude^^…) :

        lmfao – hey, you are the only ones who are cutting theirselves up from truth and your religion is under others one these man-made lies !
        Tell me – who wrote your bible really – was it your God ?
        – NO ! It is written by ordinary men who saw an instrument of power in this institution called religion/church… and it has been changed and edited a thousand times since the origin.
        So, maybe YOU find yourself once after your physical existence lying blind and with dislocated limbs in the cold darkness – this due to your weird dogmatic view… watch it !

        kind regards,

        Fenrir

        P.S. The faith was always the sword of the ones who are only too lazy to search. ;)

  5. Hello…. Wake up people What are Angels? …The Living Creatures in Ezekiel / Revelation? The Bible is full of aliens if we classify aliens as non-earth lifeforms

    • Nigel,

      Angels are exactly that Angels, which were created by God.

      This verse among many speak of angels, and all thing created by HIM (God)

      Colossians 1:16-17 “For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created by Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.”

      • Gloria, The question was rhetorical. Still, you have confirmed my point. Aliens are everywhere.

      • Nigel,

        Whether the question was rhetorical or not does not matter.

        God is the creator of all things. NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE does it say God created aliens. So you see, Sue’s view that these supposed aliens could be demons is most likely correct.

        Gloria

    • Dear all readers.

      Shalom.

      Sue has again hit the nail on the head. Do not forget what the “United Nations” are. You can translate UN as “all nations”. Than do an online search in the Bible, and see what shall happen to “all nations”.

    • Dear Nigel and Gloria.

      Shalom.

      Demons are aliens on Earth. But they are not coming from outer space. They have come up from the abyss or the pit, which is their domain in the spiritual realm. They will reign in the abyss, till Jesus returns. Than, and first than, they will end up in the lake of Fire, Hell.

      There is no Biblical defense for a belief, that there is life beyond Earth in the physical realm. There is no life in physical space, but only close to absolute Zero temperature. No form of physical life can exist there, not even a second. Inter space is empty.

      There is no reason to fear anything from space. Jesus the Messiah is in control.

      • Ivar so what do you call the “forces of evil” in the “heavnly realms” if they are not demons? I would call them fallen angels that can take the form of what ever they want.

        Why wouldnt satan use deception and fear in the form of UFO’s? There are too many sightings world wide to just deny their existence?

        Too many countries have UFO files. New Zealand just realesed over 2000 files. The day they did many UFO’s were seen. These sitings could only be satanic apparitions but to just deny they exist is wrong. I agree its not a physical life form its a deception. In addition to say there is nothing to fear from space is also wrong. Satan is a messenger of fear why not create fear through this type of deception?

        Ephesians 6:12 says “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the “heavenly realms.”

        Ivar I hope I’m wrong and your right. I can not imagine the fear and panic if a demonic UFO apparition showed up. There woudld be a falling away of the faith from the elect beyond imagine.

      • Dear Richard.

        Shalom.

        We have debated this before, and I have no problem to disagree.

        You wrote:

        Ivar I hope I’m wrong and your right. I can not imagine the fear and panic if a demonic UFO apparition showed up. There woudld be a falling away of the faith from the elect beyond imagine.

        My reply:

        Is does not matter how many files, any government might have on “UFO;s”. You have to show me scriptures, that can be read as an invasion of aliens from space.

        I do acknowledge the existence of demons and evil spirits. And manifestations of such spiritual beings, are in my understanding of the scriptures, among the claimed to be “aliens from space”.

      • Scripture is not specific about an alien invasion. I would argue that scripture’s description of deception described in the bible is vague at best. Deception is deception. I think its rather limited in scope to try and pin point exact forms of deception. I also think that its wrong to try and eliminate forms of deception because they are not specicifally mentioned in the bible. The bible says fallen angels can take any form they want even light. That leaves an unlimited number of ways these messengers of deception can deceive. I Think we can agree on that.

        I would point you to 2nd Thessalonians 2:3-4 Don’t let “anyone” deceive you “in any way.” “Anyone” “in any way” is also open to unlimited options of deception. Its vague and non specific but its in the bible. That verse describes any and all forms of deception.

      • Unless the Bible tells us, we must not believe. I’m not sure of this but I guess they are using the “UFO” thing, so that they can cover up the sudden disappearance of the ‘TRUE’ Christians before the Armageddon. Genesis told us specifically what were the creations of God. Let’s just hold on the Scriptures, guys! (by the grace of God) any reply please??

      • Amen! Yes…I think you got it right! Pray for a hedge of protection. I can actually “feel” the evil trying me ….I rebuke them all day! The closer and more I seek God’s truth as these days of the tribulaton are nearing the more they try to attack..there is a spirtual warfare going on for the souls of those that belong to Jesus…they won’t bother the ones that are not seeking or professing to be seekers of the Truth of Jesus Christ..they will try to spiritually attack God elect!

  6. If you follow the history of alien intervention on our world since even the 1950s and 1960s, you wouldn’t be too overjoyed at them and their activity here.
    I could list hundreds of bizarre and terrorizing behavior of these so called “aliens”.
    Yet there are many and even some who claim to be Christian, who think of them as nothing more than harmless “good” ETs here to save our troubled world.

    One thing in the article that I do agree with as it is already happening. The worlds religions will crash and burn and the people will run to the new religion of the UFOs. It will be too late for them.

    • God is the creator of ALL things, and the bible does not say that God ever created aliens. The bible is the complete truth, and we must always adhere to it.

      Gloria

      • God is the creator of all things even ones that are not mentioned.

        You are right the bible doesnt say God created aliens specifically but it does say that he created angels who were kicked out of heaven and were able to take any form they wanted to even light. They are also called messengers of deception. Call it what you will. Any form is any form even its one we dont want to fathom or one that isnt specifically mentioned in the bible.

        If you see an imagine one day of some grotesque form you can not describe that does not meet with your specific description of a demon are you going to say its not from God because its not specifically mentioned in the bible? No your not because you saw this form even if its in the form of apperition and not a physical manifestation.

        If you believe that the bible is the literal word of God. Anything is possible under the “any form” category even aliens that arent specifically mentioned in the deception category.

      • Richard,

        Your comment: They are also called messengers of deception. Call it what you will. Any form is any form even its one we dont want to fathom or one that isnt specifically mentioned in the bible.

        My Comment: Richard, you musn’t add to the Word of Christ. The bible tells us about Fallen Angels in Jude 1:6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home–these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.

        As to the demons, the Word of God calls them unclean spirits.

        Luke 7:21 In that hour he healed many people of diseases and plagues and evil spirits, and on many who were blind he bestowed sight.

        Mark 16:15-18)“Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized will be saved, but he who does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will follow those who believe. In my name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues, they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick and they will recover.”

      • Gloria with all due repect I’m not adding to the word. Ephesians 6:12 says “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the “heavenly realms.”

        Jude 1:6 may say that the angels didnt hold their position in heaven but its doesnt say that God took away theirs powers to take any form they want to.

        Ephesians 6:12 is also not specific to just demons. The powers of the “rulers”, “authorities” and “powers of dark world” could also be fallen angels. It also takes place in the heavely realms. Many would debate that demons are specific to hell located in inner earth not the heavenly realms.

        The debate should be are demons fallen angels and where do fallen angels and demons reside specifically?

        In(Revelation 12:7-9) And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels. And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth and his angels were cast out with him.

        So where and when does Revelation 12:7-9 take place? If it doesnt take place until the tribulation which some scholars agree then scripture would also point to the fact that the fallen angels are still in heaven with Satan.
        Which would make sense according to Ephesians 6:12 for our struggle is against the fallen angels in the heavenly realms.

      • But God did say in Genesis …6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also AFTER that, whent he sons of God came in unto the daughtersof men, and they bare children to the, he same became mighty men which wer of old, men of renown. These are fallen angels called Nephilims…I am not afraid but I constantly pray for protection and for the Lord to help me to discern them and what is to come up on the earth.

    • I would like to add another persprctive to this topic. I strongly believe that aliens do exsist and that there are several different species of aliens through out the universe, some may be friendly and some may not be. But one very important fact that people need to think about is the true factor of our planet. “Water” I believe that one day we as a human race will experience a new world order in regards to our most precious recource and that is H2O (Water).Anyone that reads this reply dont say that I did not warn you about this theory of Aliens and our water. I think that one day they will come and take all of our sea water, spring water, and every other source of water that they can take within about a 48 hour period. They will send out a mass warning for people to stay in there homes and not to interfer with their operations. However our military will attack them and its only going to start the end of the planet earth as we know it today. I know this may sound crazy but I hold several degrees in science and I am also a man of faith however I just have this gut feeling that one day this will be the fate for this planet. We destroy our planet daily and they are aware of this and consider us in a way as we consider cows and chickens. Inferior life forms and they will have a great need for the water on their planet. Its survival of the fitiest and they are more advanced than us so we need to be aware and have a plane. Stay alert and stay alive, Cherish your water!!!!!

  7. I beheld a stirring in the air around me and bore witness to the very air itself twist and mold, giving shape to whatever whims it wished. Was this illusion or delusion and did it matter since I alone was the intended observer. I heard nothing but felt the unimaginable terror of a weighty burden descend upon my soul itself. In that space of time I was forced to reason that evil surrounded me because if it were a spirit sent by God then I would be kneeling in reverential awe and not cowering in abject fear and abandonment. These things are destroyers of not only lives but of everything they touch. They seek to warp us to their will and adoration. They want want they always wanted to be gods and that will ever be denied to them. God bless you.

    • Dear Sue.

      The preparation for wars against aliens….

      Revelation 17:13-15

      They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”

      Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages.

      (end of scriptures)

      When the anti-Christ has broken the final “World peace”, where are they going to point all their weapons?

      Up wards. Trying to shoot down the incoming angels?

      Something to reflect on.

      When the Lamb of God is back, and there will be no mercy on the worshipers of the Pope, they will battle it out to the end. The followers of the beast will surely loose.

  8. Ivar even though we may agree to disagree I feel very blessed for having come across your blog. I have learned so much and I will continue to learn. I am in prayer for you and your editors. May God Bless you and those that come across this blog. May your blogs bring many to the understanding that there is only one way to heaven and thats through personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Your brother in Christ Richard

    • Dear Richard.

      Shalom.

      Does aliens come from the spiritual realm, or the physical realm?

      Outer space, is very mush the physical realm.

      God of the Bible has created both.. But the kingdom of darkness, is not to be found in the physical realm.

      • Are you referring to 1st John 4.1-3?

        Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

        Are you saying the antichrist wont be in be in physical form or the physical realm?

        I guess I dont understand your question.

      • Dear Richard.

        Shalom.

        What I am trying to say, is that we have to learn, that there is a spiritual realm. Sometimes, the forces from the Spiritual realm manifest it selves in the physical realm. That is when people are demonized. The demons begged Jesus not to send them out of a man, and back into the Abyss.

        Luke 8:31
        And they begged Jesus repeatedly not to order them to go into the Abyss.

        The last anti-Christ will take his powers from the Abyss. He will very much be a physical being, but controlled by the forces in the pit, the Kingdom of Darkness.

        People who are born again from above, are lead by a “remote control” that is placed inside the Kingdom of Heaven.

      • I 100% agree with you. Thats what I think a alien visit will be. The spiritual realm manifesting in the physical world. I dont believe they are actually physical bodies.

        Have you ever read or watched Chuck Missler talk about the return of the nephilim.

        His series is really interesting. I included the youtube 1-12 series.

      • Dear Richard.

        Shalom.

        I will ask Sue to take a look at this video. She is the News That Matters Watchman in regards to what goes on in the “alien realm”.

        I do not follow this story, and I do not pay to much attention to what demons do. Yesterday, a pastor and I shared the gospel with a demonized cop. Poor fellow. He was not given authority from above, to do any harm to us, but listened carefully.

        I want you to take notice, that the Vatican seems to have gained momentum in their bid to raise awareness to fight “incoming angles”, that will make life miserable for the last and final Pope and his followers.

      • I know we have different perspectives on the coming great deception I just cant help but wonder if ufo’s wont be a part of the great deception? Its almost a fear of not wanting to be deceived and wanting to tell others about this deception. I pray for discernment that I am not leading people astray but I have yet to feel else wise by the holy spirit.

        I cant imagine what it would be like to encounter someone who is demonized.
        Did he even attempt to rebuke the spirits that posses him?

        The vatican I would say seem to encourage ufos rather than point them out as something to watch for. They get excited about baptising them. This was a news article from 2008 it makes no sense to me. Its the crazy statements that have come out of the vatican that got me interested in proving the below statements to be wrong.

        VATICAN CITY — The Vatican’s chief astronomer says that believing in aliens does not contradict faith in God.

        The Rev. Jose Gabriel Funes, the Jesuit director of the Vatican Observatory, said that the vastness of the universe means it is possible there could be other forms of life outside Earth, even intelligent ones.

        In an interview published Tuesday by Vatican newspaper L’Osservatore Romano, Funes said that such a notion “doesn’t contradict our faith” because aliens would still be God’s creatures.

        The interview was headlined “The extraterrestrial is my brother.”

        Funes said that ruling out the existence of aliens would be like “putting limits” on God’s creative freedom.

        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24598508/ns/world_news-europe/

      • Dear Richard.

        Shalom.

        You wrote:

        I just cant help but wonder if ufo’s wont be a part of the great deception?

        My reply:

        So if you “see an UFO”, do not get alarmed. It is not Jesus the Messiah, coming back in the clouds of Heaven. It is a deceptive false Miracle, sign and wonder, a bid to make you panic.

        Jesus said: I will lever leave you, never forsake you. DO NOT WORRY.

      • Richard,

        Your Comment: I cant imagine what it would be like to encounter someone who is demonized.

        My Comment: If you do encounter someone demonized, know that there is power in the name of Jesus Christ. For the even the demons know Christ is God, and tremble.

        God Bless you.

      • Ivar and Gloria

        My father was a pilot in Vietnam in addition to having his own plane so to say my family has an interest in planes would be an understatement. We talk about aviation all of the time. So I know what should and shouldnt been flying in the air. About 5 years ago my wife and I were sitting on our deck, its was about 9:30 at night. We live on open space facing the mountains in Colorado. Out of no where an object that can only be described as a boomerang that was completely bright lifted strait up from the mountains to an altitude of about 10,000 feet where it sat stationary for 2 to 3 minutes before it excellerated to speeds that were incomprehensible. My wife and I looked at each other first in utter amazement and then with complete shock that later turned to fear. We called and reported the sighting as did many other local Coloradoans that night. That was the first sighting.

        The second sighting happened while we were attending a concert at a local out door concert venue called RedRocks. It sits in the mountains over looking Denver. While walking to our car after the concert someone pointed to an object in sky traveling at speeds again not imgainable. Literally it looked like speeds that could only be accomplished by breaking the sound barrier “Mach Speeds”. I’ve heard and seen the sound barrier broke many times by F16’s flying at Wright Pat airforce base in Dayton OH. This object was flying at speeds that would make F16’s look like they were sitting still and they were still making hard geometrical turns at those speeds. As we stopped to watch this obejct travel the crowd watching it grew to about 20. Including several policemen who were directing traffic. We kept asking each other are you seeing the same thing I’m seeing as if we were all hoping someone would say no I dont see it. We kept asking each other how can an object traveling at those speeds turn at such hard angles without losing speed or slowing down? We all agreed the object being viewed not manmade. If it was it definetly was travling at speeds no one had seen or heard of before.

        I dont what we saw or what we were watching. All I remember is first being in shorck and then being in fear. Fear of something that cant be explained can be overwhelming. I have a very strong heart for the Lord. I will say someone with less a heart who still considers themselves to be the elect will be deceived and may even be convinced of something it shouldnt be.

        It reminds me very much of Matthew 24:24 It was a great sign of wonder and it was no doubt a strong delusion.

        It took a lot of prayer to calm myself to the point I was convinced that God is in control. I would never want anyone else to feel their heart racing with insecurity as my did those two evenings.

      • Richard,

        I believe what you saw was an illusion by Satan. If Satan can masquerade himself as an angel of light, then this would be a piece of cake for him. He is the father of all lies.

        You made a statement earlier about not imagining what it would be like to encounter a person that was demonized.

        Well, I have seen demons,and I have seen people possessed. One demon actually asked me, if I remembered it (Long story.) What did I do? I said, “I rebuke you, in the name of Jesus.” That demon flew out so fast Richard, that I actually felt it leave.

        If I were to see a “supposed flying object”, I’d do the same thing. I’d rebuke it in the name of my Wonderful Savior.

        God Bless

        Gloria

    • Richard – I am your sister in Christ. And I find your writings to be completely logical. May God bless us all until the very end.

  9. I agree with the article and the conclusion, we are being set up for the delusion its everywhere, books movie, tv shows to desensitize us, but there not aliens but demonic, there’s even a history channel show called ancient aliens and they explain everything with the line” the ancient astronaut theory is” what deception if you don’t have a biblical worldview, I believe genesis chapter 6 explains everything I need to know. GODbless both of you love this site!

    • Thank you for you’re encouraging comments Holly! Blessings on you and yours.

      You are so right about the history channel! I watched a bunch if the episodes and it’s very pro-alien!!
      SUE

    • Yep!!! they are trying just this! so much of Hollywood is involved in this great deception. They have sold themselves to Satan!! So many of movies are so close to what scripture says will happen but said to say most have no clue what they are watching is a version of just what the Bible predicts! They think somebody has come up with a great theme for a movie…you try to tell them that and they think we are nuts…and so many childrens cartoons…oh my gosh…unbelievable what Satan has put in these and no one really knows..if they are not seeking and studying and searching so as not to be deceived. It sickens me to see the childrens movies and cartoons that satan is involved in..

  10. deception is deception we have to be ready for every thing satan is trying to put out there, he is going to try anything, we need to trust on the word of god period,it is impossible for someone to tell me that god doesnt exist,but we have to be ready for every arrow they are going to shoot at us,jesus christ the messiah is the way , all this news and information are good to keep on file with a bible for are love ones are neighbors and those who arent not save yet,we are save that is all that matters now, lets worried and share the gospel with the unsaved, i believe all kind of lies like this ones are going to happen i will garantee you, all that matters is that we have christ , he will protect us and of course we have to keep up with the Word. lets not argue with each other we know that satan is going to try anything to brake us apart.

  11. Richard,
    I watched a small part of the video and will watch more later. There are “conspiracy theorist Christians”. The problem that can happen is when you read things into scripture with conspiracy theory. For instance, Missler believes the antichrist will be part alien from outer space. That is conjecture. He has no idea and there is no basis for that in scripture. People listen to him and assume the antichrist will be an outer space alien. If not, won’t that then deceive people? To turn your doctrine into an alien doctrine is not wise. There may be “UFO’s” and aliens (really demons) but we know where they are from. We know that the Lord did not create aliens, he created man in His image.Everything else are made up lies from hell to decieve. Sue

    • How can you be certain that God didn’t create other versions of “man” that just happen to loo different and come from another planet(and you must assume the other planet is a creation of God)?

    • Missler claims that aliens or what ever anyone here wants to claim they are, are nothing more than demons. Its that simple folks, satan will try to deceive using any and all lies he can that will be believed by man.
      Missler does not claim any “outerspace” relation to the antichrist in part or whole. Many here like to think that their terms are correct and others are wrong but are really saying the same thing.

      So I say trust in the Lord Jesus the Christ and know that demons are going to make themselves known. Be it as pointy tailed, horny head reptiles as in old art or as things from space. They are coming and because He (Jesus) is with us, who can be against us.

      • You are right…he claims that they are nephilims…just like they are…fallen angels…and they are among us! so many people do not want to believe in this …but the Bible clearly says they are there.

  12. this is a distraction….how would you know this….and aren’t there different versions of aliens and which ones do you think are mean the ones you took technology from or the nice ones that asked for technology to only be used for good but didn’t head their advice OR is this a distration or is ELS code correct about of the demon HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THIS?

      • And might I ask Juan, how you can be so sure in your mind that Angie, is 100% completely and unexplicably right?

        I don’t think so.

        These aliens are demons, and we are to put on the full armor of God, because our war is in the spiritual realm.

        Ephesians 6:11 Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes.

  13. Dear Angie,

    Welcome to this site. I don’t claim to know everything about aliens. I do know that the Word of God is truth and Jesus came to save human beings not space aliens. You can click on the blue links and make your own conclusions, but I don’t believe they are ‘nice’ aliens.
    They are from the demonic world.
    Everything written is measured against the Word of God, not human standards.
    Peace,
    Sue

  14. Dear Angie,

    You need to be careful with ELS codes, people use the Bible Code stuff as fortune telling. The bible is clear enough without trying to find secret codes in it. Open it up and find your salvation on the pages.
    Sue

  15. Good morning Brothers and Sisters..
    I was waiting for a BBC program on the King James Bible to download, and found myself on your website reading your comments.
    I am from England, of Hungarian/Jewish/English family lines and have always believed in my Heavenly King and Savior Yeshua Messiah.
    I must point out that I was not bought up to believe in any religion.
    Yeshua Messiah was the only perfect man that has proven satan to be a Liar…
    Be of good courage and have faith in your hearts.
    Do not be misled by anyone or anything.
    Even if we all have to give up this ‘mortal’ existence in our faith, do not be fearful of someone or ‘something’ taking your life. But be fearful of him that can destroy the Soul and throw it into Gehenna. For those that want to save their lives will lose it, but those that are willing to give it for their Heavenly King and the good news of the Kingdom, will find it.
    We are living in the Last Days, and as Yeshua Messiah stated: those days would be like the days of Noah..
    In the days before the flood, the whole Earth was filled with evil and violence. The Nephilim were also on the Earth, terrorising men and women, committing unspeakable things against God’s children..
    The same is happening today, the whole world is being run by a satanic system, believing that they do not require God to be successful in their lives?
    Pray for them, pray for each other, ask for forgiveness for our sins and forgive them that do not know..
    I believe that many around the world are finally realising that the ‘system’ that we have all been taught about it basically, just a lie..
    I pray everyday for God’s Kingdom to be here on the Earth, as it already is in the Heavens and not this ‘democracy’ that is being pushed upon the world as the solution to the problems in the world..
    Do not put your trust in mortal man who does not know his next footsteps… or cannot add even a second to his existence.
    Yeshua Messiah stated that you will know the truth by it’s fruits..
    Love is the only way.
    When people rebuke or accuse you, do not retaliate, but leave everything to him that see’s and hears all things, even those things that are not verbally uttered, but moan from your hearts of pain.
    I have witnessed 3 UFO sightings of various kinds with other people.
    I have witnessed my youger brother and my mother take their last mortal breath on this planet.
    I have witnessed and rebuked demon possessed people.
    What have you to fear?
    Your Heavenly King has already shown you the way.
    Keep the Faith, Pray, and have Peace amongst you.
    LovenPeace.. Reg XXX

  16. “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” – Ephesians 6:12 –

    With respect to the reality and activity of Satan and other infernal entities masquerading as ‘aliens’, I invite doubters to ruminate on the following quotation gems from none other than Dr. Jacques Vallee, arguably the world’s leading scientific authority on the UFO/Alien Abduction Phenomenon:

    “It appears that we are sharing this planet with another race . . . This race is invisible to us, is more intelligent than we are, and is hostile to us. It is trying to control our destiny by influencing our imaginations.” (Note: this is a summary, not a verbatim quote.) – Dr. Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia –

    “I would like to step outside the conditioning maze and see what makes it tick. I wonder what I would find. Perhaps a terrible, superhuman monstrosity, the very contemplation of which would make a man insane?” – Dr. Jacques Vallee, The Invisible College –

    “What we see in effect here is not an alien invasion. It is a control system which acts on humans and uses humans . . . Human beings are under the control of a strange force that bends them in absurd ways, forcing them to play a role in a bizarre game of deception.” – Dr. Jacques Vallee, Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults –

    If this view were merely the position of Christians who have investigated the UFO Phenomenon, it might well be dismissed as so much narrow-minded religious paranoia. But when we find that this conclusion is supported directly, and indirectly, by secular experts who have no interest in supporting Christianity generally, then we know that we have discovered precious truths:

    (1) That there is an invisible race of Inter-dimensional Beings (IDBs) on a level of existence coinciding with our own.

    (2) That this race has been actively involved with humanity down the centuries.

    (3) That the attitude of these demonic powers to humankind is one of unflagging hostility.

    (4) One of their primary goals is to promote a New One-World Religion which is integral to the plan for domination of humanity as an exploitable psychical and biological resource.

    (5) These IDBs will eventually succeed in convincing almost everyone that there is no need of a personal Saviour.

    May God have mercy on humanity!

  17. Humanity takes itself too seriously.. it is the world’s original sin. If the caveman had known how to laugh, history would be different. :)

    May we gather strength and be motivated in the glory of God my brothers’ and sisters’. The Lord will not leave his children unaffected under the Prince of the Wind.. Suffer now and be ready for Salvation after before redemption.

    God bless

  18. I believe that the representatives of the Man of Sin are now spreading this lies that there will be an alien invasion to deceive the whole world that when the rapture did takes place they would put the blame on aliens and no biblical rapture happened. This could be used as well to deceive the whole world when the Lord Jesus Christ comes back in the second phase with his all army in heaven that they are aliens and they would be attacked by the Anti-Christ with his unbelieving armies.

  19. Let me start out by saying thank you, as I love this page. I love that people of faith ( of Jesus Christ and our Father God) Have much to say on the topic of Aliens, demons, and end times.
    As a child I had an experience with a “shadow person” (as I have heard other people call what I witnessed). During this same time, I was having these horrible, terrifying, and relentless dreams of Aliens (the “grey” kind) and of being abducted from my bedroom, the same place and time period where I encountered the “shadow person”. I have come to the conclusion that this most likely was a demonic entity but am not sure what it’s purpose was, as when I noticed it, it left and I have never seen it since. At the time I was already saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. But my whole life, aliens, ufo’s and the like terrify AND facinate me. I know that there is more to them than peoples imaginations and I hope that the Lord makes all this clear to me some day.
    Also, is it possible that we could be mistaking angels for aliens/ufo’s? We do not know what angels look like. People are generally terrified when they encounter an angel in the Bible (Matt. 28 for example). Who is to say that these “aliens” aren’t angels? Thanks in advance for your reply :)

    • Bruce,

      What you encountered as a “shadow person” was a demon, and in the name of Jesus- when you rebuke these demons they will flee.

      I have been in the presence of Angels and of Jesus and terrified is the last thing I’ve felt. It is a love so powerful and pure that in that instant I realized I wanted to be with Jesus forever. He is my Savior and my God.

      I have also been in the presence of demons, since I was 8. And I tell you, what the Word of God says: James 2:19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that–and shudder.

      I have rebuked them continuously and they have fled for their is power in Jesus Christ. Continue to pray, and do not be deceived of this deception with UFO’s and aliens.

      Ephesians 6:11 says: Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. *and that’s what we all should do*

      God Bless,

      Gloria

  20. Whith both TV series ‘V’ and ‘The Event’ up and running – is Hollywood tasked whith preparing people for some kind of ‘revelation’, along the lines of the Vatican statements?

  21. Modern Christianity has existed for a littler over 1700 years. This entire time in which Christianity has existed the world has been in a constant state of corruption.

    My question is this. How do we know that what is in the bible is true? The bible has been through many hands over the years. Books have been taken away and who knows how many times it has been edited. How do you have faith in something in which has been written, changed, and translated by man?

    I don’t mean to deny the bible, it’s just I don’t know what to believe. I want to believe only the truth, and there can be only one truth. For once we know the truth, we then know how to live. Life is more peaceful this way. That is all I seek and it is not my intention to offend. I myself would like to be able to put 100% of my faith in all that the bible says, but since it has been manipulated by man over the past thousand years or so, I’m finding it hard. Someone please answer and help.

    • Dear Mike.

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      The question if the Bible is true, can only be solved by answering the question: Do you believe Jesus is risen from the dead?

      If the question is YES. Than He is more than capable for securing His own Words, so we can read them today. The day I realized that Jesus is a live, I understood that I can come to know Him more through His words. I Obey Him.

    • Hi, Mike! ‘Christianity’ has existed for 2,011 years–going on 2,012! . The world has been in corruption, and has continued ever since Adam and Eve, to do so–even with a Flood intervening–! We all are sinners, since Adam and Eve, before we are even born–we were in their bodies, so to speak, when they sinned–, even when we have not sinned the same sin ‘on our own,’ as the Bible Says!

      The Bible has been through many hands–preferably those reading it–since its beginnings before Jesus; the Bible Itself Says–we will address wehther It is trustworthy, in a bit–that when God gave “The Law” to Moses that NOTHING should be added to His Word. Jesus SUPPORTED that Word, INCLUDING the PROPHETS that came AFTERWARD! PROPHECY is the Word of God! STILL HIS WORD. So: LAW, PROPHETS, WRITINGS, we call them, ALL different names for HIS WORD! People want to ax anything after THE LAW! But the Rest is HIS WORD!

      I agree that GOD is powerful enough TO CONTROL HIS WORD. GOD is POWERFUL enough to MAKE SURE WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED REGARDLESS OF WHO DOES WHAT. That said, nothing has been REMOVED–LET ME EXPLAIN…

      WHAT IS THERE IS WHAT OUGHT TO BE THERE. We KNOW that certain books were around at the same time, both BEFORE the time of Christ, and after! WE KNOW that folks were, and still are, READING ALL KINDS OF BOOKS! We KNOW that books exist, SUCH AS THE BOOK OF JASHER, THE BOOK OF ENOCH, and OTHERS, such as THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS! . However, THEY ARE NOT THE BIBLE! GOD CONTROLS the BIBLE, and THE BIBLE SAYS THIS! .

      GOD TOLD me TO BELIEVE THE BIBLE! GOD DIRECTS me to WHAT TO READ! In, or out! WE KNOW the other books! THEY ARE LISTED HERE, THERE, AND EVERYWHERE! THE BIBLE is the 66 books–not the “666″! The REST, and the Catholic Bible, for instance, makes clear that ‘other books,’ in it, are ‘deuterocanon,’ or alongside books, and the ETHIOPIC ‘canon’ has a bunch MORE OF THESE, are ‘ALONGISDE BOOKS,’ HISTORICAL–more or less accuracy. GOD chooses! START WITH THE 66!

      PRAY FOR THE HOLY SPIRIT. Jesus SAID. THE HOLY SPIRIT is your authority! You will not have to ask, any LONGER! JESUS SAID! Your Father will not give you anything bad when you PRAY for the HOLY SPIRIT! JESUS SAID: He will Remind you of everything I SAID! SO YOU WILL KNOW! Now, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO TRUST THE BIBLE TO BELIEVE ALL THAT! . Circular, huh? But IT Says, FAITH is REQUIRED.

      I GUARANTEE YOU, IF YOU TRUST GOD TO BE SOVEREIGN ENOUGH TO TELL THE TRUTH, AND YOU ASK HIM, READY TO BELIEVE WHAT HE SAYS, AND DO IT, HE WILL SHOW YOU! YOU DO NOT HAVE TO KNOW WHAT WE SAY ABOUT GOD… ASK HIM!

      HE WILL TELL ABOUT HIMSELF! . JUST BE READY TO ACCEPT IT.

      LOVE! In Christ,

      <3+W

  22. Given all of the movies and shows dedicated to this theme, I strongly suspect the alien card will be played in the end time delusion. All official declarations – even from the vatican – just add to my suspicion.

    That Reagan speech linked to earlier was quite tell-tale.

    I believe – IF this is what is meant in “as in the days of Noah” – that we may be served a good alien/ bad alien scenario. And this is also a convenient way of explaining away a lot of the end time events.

    Have a look at this, especially right at the end:

    It says in the end “Don’t look up”.
    In contrast, the Bible says that, when we see all of these things, to lift up our heads, for our Redemption draws near.

    Here is a link to a christan website, that addresses people who have experienced some form of ‘alien contact’. As someone wrote earlier – it proves you CAN rebuke these things in the name of Jesus Christ.

    http://www.alienresistance.org/ce4.htm

  23. Hmmmm…lots of people have some interesting ideas. Try this one on for size…it is a long eBook, but it is free and then you can see three sides to the complex question of aliens…religion, science, and history. Hope this helps somebody out there!

  24. “…spiritual realm” ?? – I will not say “lol, funny”

    kids, stay at this page here:

    http://ourenglishclass.net/class-notes/writing/types-of-writing/research-paper/evaluating-web-sources/proof-that-aliens-exist/

    (it is not my page)

    Read there, don’t read further text here.

    By the way, they read every word you write or think.
    YOU are the one who is created by them (YOU are CARRIER of part of them). And you can not have stronger mentality then them. We are just (x10) bigger in size, but there are many species in the CHAIN.
    I wonder which types of cats vs us think like the replies above – in context cats commenting for us<<
    They are not animals-true, they don't have teeth-true, they have compact scull-true…
    It is like comparison..: who will win if cats organize similar "Syndrome"

    By the way… if I can read your(and everyone's) thoughts(mind) – and reactions before they are created and theirs, how much they can do?

    And yes, I can predict(and see) any event much further than "Earth"… I can pass to any their knowledge, but… whats the worth of that… – who will use it, have you asked yourself?

    Current biggest Predators/Animals on Earth are HUMANS / HUMAINS and there will always be groups and individuals that will do everything to harm you.

    "how much they can do?"
    – they will never save individuals or even 30% of current
    – they will never stop anything if there is war between same species
    – they will never save anyone if there is Earth disaster

    They will only save(will do reaction) if Earth is in danger from outside. And that will be 30.000 years from now (the nearest one).

    They will not react for the impact which is in condition after 30 years.

    …"I will stay as guest"

    • Amen…i agree. BE ON GUARD AND TO NOT BE DECEIVED. The Bible says do not be deceived…and I am one that is fully awake and will not be!! I am watching, preparing…and my heart is right with Jesus Christ and I “check” myself all the time to make sure I keep it right.

  25. Sounds to me like This World System wants to attempt to stop Our Lord Jesus Christ to coming and reclaim this Earth and take it back from Lucifer and those in league with him.

    Revelation 19:11 KJV
    And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

    Revelation 19:14 KJV
    And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen,white and clean.

    Sounds like an invasion of The God Kind they preparing for.

  26. Hi Gerald,

    You said :
    Sounds to me like This World System wants to attempt to stop Our Lord Jesus Christ to coming and reclaim this Earth and take it back from Lucifer and those in league with him.

    My comment:
    You got that right!!!

  27. OK – I’ve read a few comments on here. I can’t quote the bible. I also believe that the Bible is not the whole truth. Half of it was banned in the year 300. This (in my opinion) was to “hide” the fact that ETI intervention is all over the bible. It’s been around since our very first writings on this planet. It is no surprise to me that Christians are going to fight against anything that is not of this Earth as Demons.
    GOD can create as many life forms as he chooses and just because he did NOT tell you in the Bible that he created more than us measly little humans does NOT mean that he didn’t. Stop being so prideful in thinking you are so special there cannot be other beings in the Universe.
    As a matter of fact, I believe that GOD probably made quite a few life forms long before he created us. Like us though – they can be deceived as well. Therefore there will be good aliens and bad aliens.
    I also do not buy in to the Christian view of GOD. I’m sorry if it offends you, but I think there is far more to it then your black and white version you hold so dear to your hearts. I’m not going to comment further on this point at this time, since I may be writing a book on the subject. Maybe.
    If aliens have been around far before our first writings then it is safe to assume that they are working FOR GOD. Also some are working against him. It is the way of like period. You can’t change it. Therefore higher life forms are “tending GODs garden”, and you should not just expect them all to be evil. If they were all evil they would have destroyed us long ago. Period.
    The Mahabharata (which is far older than your bible) describes many types of beings. They would have no way of making this stuff up thousands of years ago, because they should not have had knowledge of Solar Systems, Galaxies and other dimensions. Nor should they have had knowledge of flyer saucers, which they describe in great detail. You cannot dismiss the fact that this knowledge should have been unknown to our ancient ancestors.
    When the ETI comes back to this planet we will have to make a choice – this is true. Whether it is to go to heaven or to hell is really not the point. The afterlife is also not so black and white as the christian belief holds to. You can believe that version if you wish but I think it is far more then the christian out look. Also I’m tired of hearing about Fire and Brimstone to try to “scare” me into believing your version of GOD. The Mahabharata seems to me (and yes I’ve been reading it) is a far better text for learning “morals” then the bible. This is why the religious leaders of today tell you it is “pagan science fiction” they will lose your money and power and control over you. Sorry but that is how I view organized religion. The leaders are all after Money – Power and Control. That sounds more like the devil to me then the Hindu version of GOD.
    If I’ve offended some people sorry..but I’m allowed my views just like you are.
    The “deception” has already taken place. I just hope that the governments of the world picked the right side. Because I also believe they are already are in contact with the ETs.

    • Well send Anthony except Scripture is the Authorized Word of Yahuwah, although it has been tampered with by the roman church/jesuits.. the book of Enoch was left out for its description of the product of some of these beings…nephilim Also Jasper book.. Josephus the historian is also a good source. There have been many civilizations on this earth and evidence of it .. like the book you speak of and the glass fields of India,the Merkaba vehicle.

    • Hi, Mike! ‘Christianity’ has existed for 2,011 years–going on 2,012! :). The world has been in corruption, and has continued ever since Adam and Eve, to do so–even with a Flood intervening–! We all are sinners, since Adam and Eve, before we are even born–we were in their bodies, so to speak, when they sinned–, even when we have not sinned the same sin ‘on our own,’ as the Bible Says!

      The Bible has been through many hands–preferably those reading it–since its beginnings before Jesus; the Bible Itself Says–we will address wehther It is trustworthy, in a bit–that when God gave “The Law” to Moses that NOTHING should be added to His Word. Jesus SUPPORTED that Word, INCLUDING the PROPHETS that came AFTERWARD! PROPHECY is the Word of God! STILL HIS WORD. So: LAW, PROPHETS, WRITINGS, we call them, ALL different names for HIS WORD! People want to ax anything after THE LAW! But the Rest is HIS WORD!

      I agree that GOD is powerful enough TO CONTROL HIS WORD. GOD is POWERFUL enough to MAKE SURE WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED REGARDLESS OF WHO DOES WHAT. That said, nothing has been REMOVED–LET ME EXPLAIN…

      WHAT IS THERE IS WHAT OUGHT TO BE THERE. We KNOW that certain books were around at the same time, both BEFORE the time of Christ, and after! WE KNOW that folks were, and still are, READING ALL KINDS OF BOOKS! We KNOW that books exist, SUCH AS THE BOOK OF JASHER, THE BOOK OF ENOCH, and OTHERS, such as THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS! :). However, THEY ARE NOT THE BIBLE! GOD CONTROLS the BIBLE, and THE BIBLE SAYS THIS! :).

      GOD TOLD me TO BELIEVE THE BIBLE! GOD DIRECTS me to WHAT TO READ! In, or out! WE KNOW the other books! THEY ARE LISTED HERE, THERE, AND EVERYWHERE! THE BIBLE is the 66 books–not the “666”! The REST, and the Catholic Bible, for instance, makes clear that ‘other books,’ in it, are ‘deuterocanon,’ or alongside books, and the ETHIOPIC ‘canon’ has a bunch MORE OF THESE, are ‘ALONGISDE BOOKS,’ HISTORICAL–more or less accuracy. GOD chooses! START WITH THE 66!

      PRAY FOR THE HOLY SPIRIT. Jesus SAID. THE HOLY SPIRIT is your authority! You will not have to ask, any LONGER! JESUS SAID! Your Father will not give you anything bad when you PRAY for the HOLY SPIRIT! JESUS SAID: He will Remind you of everything I SAID! SO YOU WILL KNOW! Now, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO TRUST THE BIBLE TO BELIEVE ALL THAT! :D. Circular, huh? But IT Says, FAITH is REQUIRED.

      I GUARANTEE YOU, IF YOU TRUST GOD TO BE SOVEREIGN ENOUGH TO TELL THE TRUTH, AND YOU ASK HIM, READY TO BELIEVE WHAT HE SAYS, AND DO IT, HE WILL SHOW YOU! YOU DO NOT HAVE TO KNOW WHAT WE SAY ABOUT GOD… ASK HIM!

      HE WILL TELL ABOUT HIMSELF! :). JUST BE READY TO ACCEPT IT.

      LOVE! In Christ,

      <3+W

      • UNBELIEF RESULTS in STATEMENTS LIKE THESE:

        “The Mahabharata (which is far older than your bible) describes many types of beings. They would have no way of making this stuff up thousands of years ago, because they should not have had knowledge of Solar Systems, Galaxies and other dimensions. Nor should they have had knowledge of flyer saucers, which they describe in great detail. You cannot dismiss the fact that this knowledge should have been unknown to our ancient ancestors.”

        UNBELIEF MEANS you do not consider that the Word of God was FROM THE BEGINNING–as also John’s Gospel Says–from Adam and Eve on, and EVEN BEFORE! NOTHING from the CREATED WORLD PRECEDES THE WORD! No doubt the ‘mahabharata’ is OLD!

        UNBELIEF TELLS YOU that EARLIER PEOPLE would have no knowledge of these things, WHEN THE BIBLE CLEARLY Says that the world had progressed BEYOND WHERE WE ARE AND HAS ALREADY BEEN WIPED OUT ONCE–by FLOOD!

        UNBELIEF TELLS YOU that ANGELIC BEINGS did not exist who could tell you anything they wanted about the solar systems, galaxies, and other dimensions, EITHER AUTHORIZED by God, or UNAUTHORIZED, and in REBELLION–ALLOWED by God, FOR HIS OWN PURPOSES, ALL GOOD, IN THE END–! :).

        ONCE YOU BELIEVE The BIBLE, TRUTH BECOMES CLEAR! JESUS is The Way, The Life, and The TRUTH! No One Comes To The Father, but by Him! REALIZE THE BIBLE IS TRUE! Trust THE WORD! TRUST GOD to take care of His WORD! HE WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU! As Said above, by “Reggie Rare,” I WILL CALL HIM, “Do not fear [DEATH]…fear THE ONE who can cast you INTO HELL, AFTER DEATH…fear THAT ONE”! (PARAPHRASE)

        <3+W-QUOTING-JESUS-AT-THE-END

    • God says man is made in his image…all these other things I agree with below…Nephilims. You might better believe the Bible as he WHOLE truth. He is coming soon.

    • many have already disapeared.. and returned inhabited by fallen angel entities or reptilian earthbound EBE’s, those ‘haunted’ me when I was a child.. they feed off of fear and us.

      • I had an experience with a reptilian entity in 1989. I thank Yahweh for delivering me from all that held me captive. He used Pam Shepherd five plus years ago to open my spiritual eyes as well. Thank you to my Lord and Savior Yeshua.

  28. The truth is fallen angel and the government are working together they worship the beast t
    hey are fools Jesus is the way and the truth

    • This is true brother look up Dulce base or sherryshriner.com… but we should not condemn
      5:22 Matthew But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
      … love and pray for our enemies. look up galactic federation ,satans ashtar command, they all push new age thinking. that “satellite” falling in the Pacific last month was not ..but one of their ‘ufo’ ships

    • Yep….know telling how many “reptilians” are out there. Many I do believe…Just say the name of Jesus. All you have to do is whisper is name and the demons have to flee.

  29. Why doesn’t the almighty GOD just come and put a stop to all of this right now? Why must we be subject to this game? Essentially, that’s all it is- a pissing contest between God and Satan, and we as humans are being totally used in the whole process.

    God knows everything that was ever going to happen before it happened. God knew when he created Lucifer that he would become a fallen angel, but he created him anyway. God knew that Adam and Eve would eat the forbidden fruit, yet he placed the tree of good and evil in the garden anyway.

    There really is no Satan’s plan- it’s all Gods plan and always will be. He’s never not been in control. There is a purpose to this, I hope.

    The entire monetary system in itself is evil. The monetary system is the foundation upon which an evil empire has been built. Non-cooperation with the monetary system would cripple our governments. They’ve bought us off with technology and security. Money is make-believe anyway. We don’t need it. We have the power to create heaven on Earth and defeat the evil at hand if we could merely organize ourselves and sacrifice for the greater good. Gandhi said that non-cooperation with evil is just as important as cooperating with good. Yet, our entire society is based upon evil. Give up materialism, the monetary system, your status in society, your convenient life and start living in love and compassion for one another. Stop being greedy and start loving. If you have more than you need, then give it to those who do not. For it is in our actions that we show our faith.

  30. Dear Mike,

    His thoughts are not our thoughts. His ways are not our ways. Who can know the mind of God. Trust in the One who holds the world together by the power of His Word. Amen.

    • sueliz1,

      Have you ever held the word of God in an objectivity? Have you ever questioned it? Is it really that black and white to you? Is it really this cut and dry? Good for you if it is, however it’s not quite so simple for me. I wish it were, oh how wish it were this way. Maybe I wouldn’t spend day after day in a hellish torment trying to find out the truth. Trying to find some sort of fact in a never-ending sea of lies. The first world governments of the world are united. Their technology makes our society look quite primitive, as we so arrogantly think we are advanced. We are all fucked. It’s just a matter of when, not if. We’ve upheld their power. We’ve payed for our own enslavement for a few crumbs off their table. Everyday when we go to work, all the tax dollars we generate to them. The products we buy and want. The conveniences we just couldn’t live without. The evil of this world was created on the strength of our backs, and our corruptible human nature. We’re all guilty of contributing to the evil of this world whether we know it or not.

      I truly hope you’re right. I truly hope the bible is real. For only a miracle could save us now.

      • Do not worry. The Bible is REAL. Pray as you have never prayed before and ask the Holy Spirit to enlighten you to the truth of God’s word. He will. Seek him and you will find him. I have been a believer for 28 years but until a little over a year ago I held on by a mere thread. I sought him like I never have in my life in April 2011 and still do to this day. He is faithful….He came. Just at the right moment when the thread was about to break. Do not give up. He is coming.

        The Lord gave me a dream on March 5, 2012 as I had been comteplating the 70th week of Daniel (Daniel 9:26) as I have been faithfully study Revelation, the Gospels, and Daniel….seeking his truth for this last year. He gave me this dream and I can guarantee you it was from the Lord:

        “Quit looking for the convenant”. It has happened. You are living in the final 7 years now. The next thing to look for is the Abomination of Desolation

        The Abomination of Desolation is when the antichrist “continues” in his final 42 month Rule on earth Revelation 13:5 And there was given unot him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and power was given unto him to “continue” forty and two months.

        Now note it says “continue”…so he is ruling in some capacity as we speak. Read the King James Version…the NIV and many other versions leave out this word entirely.

  31. Iaiah 66
    17. They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine’s flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

    ….and the mouse!!!

  32. 2Sam.18-20
    20. And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four andfingers twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant

    …six fingers, six toes

  33. Ezekiel 16
    26.Thou hast also committed fornication with the Egyptians thy neighbours, great of flesh; and hast increased thy whoredoms, to provoke me to anger.

    Genesis 3
    13. And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
    15. And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

  34. Exodus 4
    17. And thou shalt take this rod in thine hand, wherewith thou shalt do signs.
    20….and Moses took the rod of God in his hand.

    http://se.images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDodfmyvhORWIAvgUVOAx.;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fse.images.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dkromosom%26ei%3Dutf-8%26fr%3Daltavista%26fr2%3Dsfp%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D36&w=800&h=600&imgurl=www.bitspin.net%2Fimages%2Fkromosom.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitspin.net%2Fillustration.html&size=178.5+KB&name=kromosom.jpg&p=kromosom&oid=ccc96afd8e5b80fe20549c7f83a9c678&fr2=sfp&fr=altavista&tt=kromosom.jpg&b=31&ni=96&no=36&tab=organic&ts=&sigr=1184935ra&sigb=13av7njrn&sigi=1134qp8hk&.crumb=aczQfaW4gyC

  35. 1Corinthians 2

    6. Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of THIS world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought

    8.Which none of the princes of THIS WORLD knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

  36. Ezekiel 28:13
    Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

    http://se.images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDodmv_PpOD3EACA0VOAx.;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fse.images.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Ddna%26n%3D30%26ei%3Dutf-8%26y%3DS%25C3%25B6k%2Bbilder%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D73&w=288&h=432&imgurl=2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_wiL90e2EcTo%2FTLydrdTkv-I%2FAAAAAAAAPHk%2FJZ6JN2YLve0%2Fs1600%2Fdna-activation.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbloglaurabotelho.blogspot.com%2F2010%2F10%2Fnexus-de-um-dna.html&size=29.9+KB&name=Laura+Botelho%3A+Nexus+de+um+DNA&p=dna&oid=42b3f068002c9c7dbfb68b6cbaf060a6&fr2=&fr=&tt=Laura%2BBotelho%253A%2BNexus%2Bde%2Bum%2BDNA&b=61&ni=96&no=73&tab=organic&ts=&sigr=121g09hij&sigb=137oid9ob&sigi=12rjhg9bh&.crumb=9r2OFgHKENp

    • Deuteronomy 27
      2…the “land” which the LORD thy God giveth thee, that thou shalt set thee up great stones, and plaister them with plaister

      5.And there shalt thou build an altar unto the LORD thy God , an altar of stones : thou shalt not lift up any iron tool upon them

      8.and written on the stones all the words of this law, well engraved.`

      http://se.images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0PDodtlgghP5zUALhsVOAx.?p=genetic%20code&ei=utf-8&n=30&x=wrt&type=JPG&fr2=sg-gac&sado=1

      21.Cursed be he that lieth with any manner of beast . And all the people shall say , Amen .

      -Has there been ancient times when the genetic limits were broken?

      -Feast of the Lord – a tribute to when the limit was set.
      “14th day in the 1th month = ovulation
      and Passover”

  37. Numbers 17:8
    And it came to pass, that on the morrow Moses went into the tabernacle of witness; and, behold, the rod of Aaron for the house of Levi was budded, and brought forth buds, and bloomed blossoms, and yielded almonds.

    http://se.images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDodigBPtOCnMAFHAVOAx.;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fse.images.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dcell%2Bhuman%2Bembryo%26n%3D30%26ei%3Dutf-8%26y%3DS%25C3%25B6k%2Bbilder%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D32&w=2048&h=1536&imgurl=www2.warwick.ac.uk%2Ffac%2Fmed%2Fresearch%2Fcsri%2Freproductive_biology%2Foocyte%2F8-cell.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.warwick.ac.uk%2Ffac%2Fmed%2Fresearch%2Fcsri%2Freproductive_biology%2Foocyte%2F&size=676.2+KB&name=cell+embryo&p=cell+human+embryo&oid=6756c461c47d4c287eddc4dc3c5e8d66&fr2=&fr=&tt=cell%2Bembryo&b=31&ni=96&no=32&tab=organic&ts=&sigr=12cfinf42&sigb=13ljp0mdm&sigi=12fuv95tr&.crumb=9r2OFgHKENp

    Rev. 22:20
    He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

  38. The calculated resistance to the New World Religion, the New World Order and the New Messiah will be ? on a massive scale in the ensuing Holy Wars. The Blue Beam Project will pretend to be the universal fulfillment of the prophesies of old, as nature and even as that which took place 2,000 years ago.

    In principal, it will make use of the sky as a movie screen, a space based laser generating satellite projects simultaneous images to the four corners of the planet in every language and in every dialect according to region. It deals with the religion aspect of the new world order and is a large scale seduction

  39. Sue, I agree with you 100 percent. I would add that fallen angels have been around since the days of Noah. The bible says that they have been jailed since the flood, yet even though jailed, they have the power to project themselves through astral travel, telepathy and various out of body “ascensions” from the pit. They can change their appearance at will, from the hideous looking alien faces to rather handsome human appearances. Their influence has been felt in every generation and culture. I recommend you read the Fake Jesus: Fallen Angels Among Us.

    http://www.lulu.com/content/12044954 ebook
    http://www.lulu.com/content/2716532 soft cover

  40. im gonna keep an open mind..they cant all be bad..maybe they come as an answer to our prayers and get us out of this mess. Why assume they are evil and why put Nato against them…kiss us all goodbye

  41. Genesis 3:1
    Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made…

    Isaiah 14:29
    …..for out of the serpent’s root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.

    Zephania 1
    4… and I will cut off the remnant of Baal from this place, and the name of the Chemarims with the priests;
    5.And them that worship the host of heaven upon the housetops…

    7. Hold thy peace at the presence of the Lord GOD: for the day of the LORD is at hand: for the LORD hath prepared a sacrifice, he hath bid his guests.

    Ecclestiastes 1

    The words of the Preacher, the son of David, King in Jerusalem;

    9.The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

    10. Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

    15. That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past

  42. Aliens are not demons. PERIOD. They are a form of outer life in outer space. Of course, we can not say we are the only forms of living beings in the universe because if the universe was capable of pulling up matter to create the Earth, then it can also create other living forms. We must not see other life forms as a threat, we have to learn to welcome them. I see a lot of bible preaching in here. You call yourselves the sons and daughters of God? Yet I see a lot of persecution going on here against other life forms. Wasn’t God being persecuted? Yet you are doing the same as his enemies. Persecution. If anything aliens should be wary of humans persecuting them without even knowing them.

    • Hello Stephanie, daughter of God!
      Nice to hear that you’re interested in ‘outer space’.
      Here is a link to a page that might interest you.
      Blessings!

      • Some ‘aliens’ like the small greys are indeed cloned beings and used for demonic spirits to inhabit so they can operate in this dimension.. I know cause I was “taken up” by them when I was 5 (1968) in Colorado Springs Co. USAF Academy..I saw human Drs. tall and small greys while I was in a stainless steel like setting, so I was probably taken to an underground base not a ship. They sustain themselves by rubbing a goulash of human/animal (blood and guts) on their stomach area thru osmosis. They have no digestive tract cause our Creator YaHuWaH limits what they can do. They excrete thru their skin..the reason for sulfuric smells around demonic activity.

  43. Dear Stephanie,

    If you research alien abductions, every one of them have been compared to demonic possession. These include govt. files on abductions.

    The devil also appears as an angel of light. He is a liar and a deceiver.

    The Lord came to save man, not space aliens. He created MAN in His image and likeness. The devil hates this image and likeness. Until Jesus returns, he is allowed to prowl around and cause havoc.

    The media and the world will tell you aliens are your friend and brother. This is a lie.

    • Dear putyhwh1st

      Shalom.

      I saw your post, and wounder how we are going to cross check your stories. I do not have many contacts in other galaxies, nor in the alien realm. Please do not go beyond what is written. The is enough stuff on Earth, that can back up the gospel as true.

      • OK just saying what happened to me,the other stories are from articles on the ‘Dulce base’ in New Mexico,which you can google. others dont seem to like thewatchersfile.com by Sherry Shriner. also Book of Enoch which the jesuit RCC kept from being ‘Scripture’ .they used their canon to blast it from Bible.
        Shalom in Yahusha

      • Dear putyhwh1st

        Shalom.

        Sue wrote:

        If you research alien abductions, every one of them have been compared to demonic possession. These include govt. files on abductions.

        (end)

        Dear putyhwh1st

        When I look at your gravatar, you have placed a strong light above your head. Are you sure you are not the alien?

        I have spammed you before. I am not sure I was loving and kind, by letting you continue to write on this blog.

      • LOL No Sue or Ivarfjeld, I hope not..although I am adopted by an Air Force family and had these occurrences from age 3-9 1966-1970 starting at Wright-Patterson AFB then at USAF Academy.
        Galatians 4:16 “Am I therefore become your enemy,because I tell you the truth?”
        Is it in my control what Yahuwah lets satan do when the devil accusses me? we are all sinners the same.all the same blood

        The light above my head represents the Set Apart (Holy) Spirit as it did with the disciples.( a tongue of fire above their heads) Yahuwah gives me the truth,I speak not of my own accord,if I did it on my own I would be silent.

        Please pray for me that the demons leave me alone especially the one that makes one(me) quick to anger. they are trying to get me killed. I have an old school chalkboard in front of my house I write Scriptures on. satan does not like it ..but people driving by do..and I have gotton compliments before.
        If you like I will just read your site and not,comment, but please keep sending your column.Just tryin to fill in some blanks for people
        Please dont spam me, spam is not Kosher. You are loving and kind.
        Be blessed in Yahuwah. Doug

      • I believe you had the experience you described. However, you need to know that fallen angels are very “illusive.” They can create experiences that seem real, yet they are illusions. The can change their forms, look like grays, ascended masters, hansome and grotesque. The research shows that people who have such experiences “made an invitation to aliens by their focus and interest inn the subject. In fact, very few Christians have had such experiences unless they thought they were believers but they had a false conversion. Once an invitation has been made, iif you are being tormented, the invitation has to be revoked. You may need help. If so, call 518-477-5759. Make a telephone appt.

  44. Dear putyhwist!
    My advice to you is to ask Jesus for protection
    and not involve yourself in something other than Gods word!
    All ‘wordly’ that we commit ourselves to provide an open channel for the enemy to distract and attack us.

    I pray all the time, even as i write this now.

    God bless you

    • putyhwh1 (sorry the spelling above)

      I do believe your experience, I also want to say to you : You shall not ‘take the fight’
      Jesus has already won the victory. Just pray and give thanks to Him, all day long, it declares ‘who you belong to’!

      Blessings!

  45. Wow a lot of you people that comment here are pure and simply RETARDED, You also give Christians a bad name, How is it that you can be so stupid as to think this is the only planet in a galaxy that is 100,000 light years across and 50,000 light years thick? Do you know how many stars and planets that is? Here is a hint: It is greater than the amount of every grain of sand on every beach on this earth, That is a HUGE number people. And this is not the only galaxy may I remind you, There are millions, even Billions of other galaxy’s, The possible other life forms are limitless, And in a universe that is almost 14 billion years old, on a planet that is roughly 4 billion years old that has had life for only about a billion or so years on it, Just imagine what wonders could have evolved on much older planets where life began long before it began here, We could be talking about Beings that are more than a billion years ahead of us, Technology wise and Spiritually, Just remember the Church isn’t alway’s right, the earth is not flat, nor is it the center of the universe, and YES the earth DOES indeed revolve around the sun, not the other way around, Now with all that being said, all of you “fallen angel” people out there, Think before you talk, Why on earth would Fallen angels need to use high tech space ships to do anything to us? answer: THEY DONT NEED TO, with that in mind, at least in my mind, we are dealing with people from other stars, nothing more, nothing less, I suggest some of you take a look at google sky, that might give you a little hint of what I’m talking about.

    Thanks.

    • Dear Jake

      Shalom, and welcome to this site.

      “Pure and simple retarded”…..I guess that must be me.

    • Hello Jake!
      I don’t think we are alone in Universe.
      It’s not written that Adam and Eve were the first, they are just the first human God tell us about.
      But I do believe that we, the human, is
      the last of God’s plan – wich I do think is circular shaped – and soon being completed.

      Ecclestiastes 1:10
      is there any thing whereof it may be said , See , this is new ? it hath been already of old time , which was before us.

  46. Please look up “the vatican wants to get it’s hands on Jerusalem”
    They are after control of the holy sites including the temple mount!

    Daniel 11
    40And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over. 41He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon. 42He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 43But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps. 44But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

    45And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

  47. There will be aliens showing up based on bible prophecy. Daniel and Revelation tell us that Lucifer and his demon angels will be showing up as part of end time events. Study 5th Trumpet of Revelation.

  48. This is the weirdest, longest, and most facinating conversation I have ever seen on this website. I honestly, for the first time, have absolutesly nothing to say. Nothing at all…….. _ _
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  49. the catholic church is at the heart of satan. The mystery whore who has filled her cup with fornications with worldly leaders. The pope and vatican has a big role in U.N. Which is the luciferian one world government.

  50. the bible tells us of these heavenly beings.. they loved the earth so much they mated with women.. and that is why there was giants back then.. nothing will change.. because these aliens have a name.. there called fallen angels.. and they have already bveen in contact for a long time with our leaders.. with plans to create the kingdom of the antichrist on our planet. they do not think as we do.. they have no feeling because they are dead.. they have no spirit.

  51. You are one brain washed religious crazy bitch! You call yourselfe christian but you sound more like a wolf in cheapwool. I hate when christian people are pecking,spitting and jumping on humans or creatures that looks or are different. Like when you peck and spit on gay and lesbians for example. And when you spit and peck on people with different skin colours! Aliens are so much welcome! I will take them to my arms and welcome them with love and respect and give them a friendly hug! People that is brainwashed like yourselfe and have this kind of attitude to gods creatures even thous that lives in other planets, are not a christian. You must bee antichrist. A demon in cheap clothes. Christans like you make me feel a chamed to bee a christian…A real christian do not have eny hatred towards enyone or enything or to eny other living beeing in it´s soul. You are one sick brainwashed bitch! >:(

    • Dear Alien-Lover.

      Shalom.

      You wrote:

      Aliens are so much welcome! I will take them to my arms and welcome them with love and respect and give them a friendly hug!

      My reply:

      I have stayed away from all this debate on aliens. Not felt it was my cup of tea. But do you really think all aliens will be like E.T?

      The movie Independence Day was great. The aliens were hostile, and almost killed all life on Earth. There was a scene from New York, where people like you were destroyed. You need to reflect on this.

      I do not believe in Aliens from outer space, but I do believe there are demons. And they are not friendly. Only if you accept Jesus as Lord, you will be able to discern demonic activity, and not be taken for a ride.

  52. You all are so incredible brainwashed that it is unbelivable! If you do not understand the bible,for christ sake stop reading it! JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE!!! Thank you for making me so a chamed to bee a christian. I can´t bealive what I am hearing! “Almighty lord, forgive this poor people,for they do not know what they are saying! Forgive their sins, their corupt minds, in the name of Jesus! AMEN!”

    Allmighty father, I will welcome all of your lovely creations, no mather in what form they come, no mather species. No mather if they come from a nother place from your wonderfull universe! They are all welcome in my arms. Thank you lord for all your lovely creation that excist in the universe. IN the name of Jesus, AMEN!!!!!!!”

    • Alien-Lover,

      Freedom of Speech is welcome on this site. But fowl language is not. I encourage you do to do research on alien abductions that are on government files. Experts always compare these abductions with demonic possession. I would not “take them in your arms” as you suggest.

      Please refrain from taking the Lord Jesus’ name in vain on this site. It will not be tolerated. Any more posts with swearing will be spammed. Thank you.

    • Alien -lover:

      “I will welcome all of your lovely creations, no mathet in what form they come, no mather species……..”

      Wich include the devil and his demons.

  53. What better way to explain the rapture: alien abduction. These creatures are the design & tool of Satan. The rapture will produce mass hysteria and this perfect plan devised by Satan to hail in the Anti-Christ to save the world from the aliens. I enjoy your writings and just recently found my way to Jesus despite my Catholic up bringing. Looking back on all the rituals and rules of the Catholic Chuch I believe the most tragic one is their exclusion of participation in communion. To deny the partake of the bread of life and the blood of redemption because they have not passed the ritual of the Catholic First Communion is what started opening my eyes to the truth. Lastly, I never held a bible while being raised in the Catholic Church. The liturgy was force fed thru the constructed misselettes. I never heard the reading from Christ in Catholic service; call only God our Father, ” Father “. In the Catholic Church the label Father is used wide spread and worse the Holy Father for the Pope. There is only One Holy Father and he is in heaven with Christ on his right side.

  54. Dear Brethren,I have enjoyed the dialogue very much.Keep looking to Jesus as the author and finisher of your faith.Understand also that a terrible holocaust of demonic proportions took place less than 70 years ago aimed at Jews.It’s ending claimed millions and millions.My father saw it.Since then there have been multiple genocides across the earth in diverse countries against most religions,by religions,and even the Christians in America yell”god bless our troops” as if they and our politicians can do no wrong.Men are far more evil than any demon you can conjure and have proven themselves as willing participants in what will come.Please do not let the distraction of talk about aliens and zombies take your focus off of your faith and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ.The magician can only deceive you if you look to where HE points to.Be well all of you.

  55. Gods and goddess that exist from the ancient indus valley civilization, may be are the part of some (nordic) aliens, I hope!
    I believe that, our universe goal is to create a vital force at every inch of its corriders, and the life in the universe is expanding.
    May be a high thermal space or pre-life universe extended to infinity is trying to cool itself by creating mass, as a by product, finally the ambient conditions and mass serve as a media for life. Pray the universe and pray the shakthi or divine power of the pre-life universe, which is know bounded at the borders of the lifely universe, “It is expanding”, the lifely universe!

    • @ arumalla soma sekhar

      I’m sorry but,
      The ‘gods and goddess’ (alien spiece) from the ancient times(long before Adam and Eve) were those who infected Gods creation- the human genes.

      To violate spieces boundaries is a sin before God.

      That’s why the blood needed to be purified!

      And that is what Jesus Christ came to tell us about.

      He also warned us from being deceived.

      Without knowledge of the ancient ‘alien gods’ many will be deceived.

      • ‘ with the species boundaries’
        I mean the genetic limits- or manipulation
        of these.

  56. A fascinating discussion. I am firmly convinced that “aliens” are Satan’s evil angels and demons. A book that I read this summer, called, Alien Intrusion (by evangelical Christian, Gary Bates) does a very thorough examination of the “alien abduction phenomenon”. Bates said that as he read through the victims’ descriptions of the “abductions,” he became convinced that they were demonic visitations. I agree with him. What was particularly compelling evidence were the cases where the “aliens” tried to “abduct” Christians. In several cases, the Christians ordered the “aliens” to leave in Jesus’ name. The “aliens” disappeared immediately and never returned. I also agree with Bates that a fake “alien abduction” is a perfect cover for the disappearance of millions of Christians and will be so terrifying that it will bring the rest of humanity to heel.

  57. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi

    “The Mahdi is of my lineage, with a high forehead and a long, thin, curved nose”

    the Old Testament describes the struggle between genes and how people continue to mix (the seed)with the descendants from this ‘gods’.

    Untill Jesus Christ came and declared that the blood
    now was purified!Amen.

    Marie:

    I took away your link. It was very long, and It did not work (editor).

    • Hello editor!
      Thanks for telling me why the link is gone.
      Perhaps you noticed the connection between the description of the ‘mahdi’ and the ancient gods (egyptian, maya)
      ‘high foreheads’.

  58. Here is a testimony from my Brother in Christ Chris.
    This is part of what i remember him telling me.

    He experienced demons when he was a child bad things would happen to him at his house. His mom was into witchcraft.. Some things that would happen is his bed would float and many other weird & bad things. One time he saw the evil one satan in his room. And he looked just like this.

    Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

    Ezekiel 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

    Chris also told me that when the evil one appeared the whole room smelt disgusting like a barn. and Chris knew that this angel that was all bright with musical pipes and such was evil.

    And one time a whole bunch of mist was entering his house so he just had to get out. And then he looked above his house and saw an alien space ship.

    My mom and dad have also seen alien spaceships.

    So anyways i believe alien space ships are demons in disguise.

    And also look at some of the fruit these alien deceptions have produced. All these star trek shows now they look fun to watch at first. But i felt the Holy Spirit grieving in me. And i found out that star trek denies Christ over and over again.

    Oh and Chris said his mom is saved now :)
    But oddly does not remember being into witchcraft.

    Also here is some very helpful information!
    Acts 16:31  And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

    Key Word ”AND THY HOUSE”!!!!!!!

    http://www.neve-family.com/books/nee/HouseholdSalvation.html

    God Bless Brothers & Sisters in Christ!
    All Glory to Jesus Christ!

  59. I’m a boy, n m born 6/12/1995, but i got some sences about aliens and the earth i know more secret things of it, my brain n my mind, says everything if i think something i got some idea of it.
    I though my self that alien is friendly and come to see us on earth, but some alien doesn’t got back on there places, so alien is back to back on earth for searching there people and i think of that they think that humun being form blue planet is not good to be a neighbour, so they where started attaking to earth…!!!!

  60. What an utter load of nonsense. I can’t believe the UN is actually wasting it’s time entertaining these stupid notions. Might as well prepare for Armageddon too in case Jesus DOES come back.

  61. So, I am Part of the LDS church or Morman church, and for my Faith, I do believe in a Father, and the Son that was sent from the Father to atone for are Sins.
    One thing that is common among these many religions of Catholic, Mormons, Jehovah witness, and all the other religions is than we all believe in a just and merciful God. yes lets except the fact that all are religions are slightly referent, But what a menut, Why in the heck are all theas thousands of religions for, Some that do believe in some God, some that don’t believe a just God, and some that believe that we actually came from Monkeys and the Big Bang theory. Is it are common instinked in are human race to find the most true words or in other words, the most true religion. Lets think for a menut that we all are trying to go back to are Father in heaven, SO what’s up with all these deferent religions?
    Everyone reading this post please listen. I really thing that all the prophets in the bible, and for my religion, the other testament of Jesus Christ “The book of Morman” I think they rely meant it when they said that Satan will do everything in his power to destroy the work of God. So maby that explains why their are so many religion please no fens.
    For all the aliens siting many people claim to see, all the (Populations control) that earth might run out of resources or space of human copastedy, for all the ideas that earth mite be (alone in outer space), all the ideas about the (beg bang) theory, all the ideas about (Evolution) and what the top scientist thing how humans came to be, for all the idea about “We must prepare to defend areselfs from (alien infation), for all the ideas about (Gay Sex marriages) “The gay people”.
    All of these are probably because Satan will do everything in his power to destroy the work of God. Maybe because some people forget that there is a God, then all those things I explained are what they will say. I did read some other post about how Satan can use deferent light to make himself look like a angel, yes that true. I also have proof of that so for the last paragraph I will explain the proof.

    You see, my family are true believers in Jesus Christ and the Father. So one night when my Mom when’t to sleep in her room, Just before she went to bed, there was a small lamp she would turn on to do some reading before she whent to be. Well in her sleep, a great light came to her “Like a REAL LIGHT” she thought babe she is having a vision or an angel appearing in her sleep, well nothing happened for that moment. Then she woke up, she realized that the lamp she just turned on before she when to bed was the same light in her sleep, o and just so you know, she turned the light back OFF when she went to bed.

    Just please pleas, take the chance to be more Humble like we are toght in are scripture “Remember remember, patient, brotherly, kindness, Venture, chairety, Ask and ye shall resefe, knock and it shall be opened up to you.

    So Like I said before how the human race truly whats the most true words, and that we seek to do the right thing. Again in other words, the most true religion. OK so the LDS Morman church like me, we believe in the Bible and the book of Morman, two wetness of Jesus Christ. So I encourage you to be patient and try to read the second wetness of Jesus Christ which is the Book of Morman. PLease, please like I said before that we all are trying to strive to find the All truth to do what Gods whats us to do, so please read the Book Of Morman. I know that their are many defreneces in all are religions but again lets all be patient, I do believe that the book of Morman is true because the holy spirit manifested to be in my heart that it is true. The LDS shurch believes in the Bible and the Book of Morman, remember that. I did ask and nock, and the anwere to see if the Book Of Morman was True was a burning fire of peace inside my heart.
    May God bless us in the last and most
    Dreadful days before the return of are King
    lord a Savior.

  62. Thanks Cody for the link.
    ‘Thy house ‘ also symbolize the human body -that God has built-
    Jesus was a carpenter!

    Exodus12
    7.And they shall take of the blood , and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses…

    Houses are built of wood.
    Genesis1
    11.And God said , Let the earth bring forth grass , the herb yielding seed , and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind , whose seed is in itself, upon the earth : and
    it was so

    The tree with the fruit(seed) after his kind also
    symbolize different species that are not allowed to mix.

    • The fruit from the trees after (his) kind wich symbolizes different species;
      Gen.2
      9.And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight , and good for food ; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden , and the tree of knowledge of good and evil .

      That are not allowed to mix,
      =not allowed to enter each others bodies/houses;

      Genesis3
      3.and of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden God hath said, Ye do not (eat) of it, nor touch it, lest ye die.

      But the fruit mixed, they ‘ate’ the fruit;
      the genetic became corrupted.

      Genesis 6
      2.That the sons of God (fruit of a kind) saw the daughters of men (fruit of another kind) that they were fair ; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

      In the fruit/seed is the genetic code.
      the

      `

      • The genetic code (DNA) is inside the tree.
        Some genes were saved in the ‘ark made of goopherwood’.
        and these genes were spread; they traveled
        for thousands and thousands of years;

        1 day is like 1000 years!

        Genesis7
        4. For yet seven days , and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights ; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth .
        10.And it came to pass after seven days , that the waters of the flood were upon the earth .

  63. continued…

    Genesis 8
    10.And he stayed yet other seven days ; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark ;
    12.And he stayed yet other seven days ; and sent forth the dove ; which returned not again unto him any more.

    ‘The water’ symbolizes the nations that became after the mixed fruit. And the genes -wich the ark symbolizes- traveled, and spread through ‘the water/nations during thousand of years.

    Genesis 7
    18.And the waters prevailed , and were increased greatly upon the earth ; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.

    ***

    Inside the body (house from the tree) there is body-blocks /’stones’.
    Jeus Christ is the cornerstone,and th carpenter who built the house

    • Don’t you all understand. Once you accept a religion or dogma as truth you automatically shut off your minds to any other possibilities. The universe is HUGE. It is full of sentient life, of consciousness. Just exactly how relevant is Jesus to another sentient life form on a planet on the other side of the Universe? Will that entity go to hell for never having known and accepted Jesus as his one true savior? Religion forces you into a one-track mind. You accept what you think is “truth” and then arrogantly “switch-off” the wonder inside of you for bible versus you think are the answers to all your questions. What are bible versus? Well, they’re just our interpretations of writing that was written by MAN long ago. Every religion has twisted them to suit their own needs, just as lawyers twist and contort the interpretation of laws for the needs of their clients.

      I believe in God, but I do not believe in any religion. I think the Bible may contain a certain amount of truth, maybe, but there is so much left to the interpretation of the reader how could you ever know for sure. Fundamental christians say that only through the blood of christ can one go to heaven and be saved. However, why would our true creator, the one who exists beyond space and time condemn a muslim, who ever since he was two or three years old was spoon-fed Islam, and he grew up believing this as truth, studying the quran and praying to alah. Just as many christians have been spoon-fed their version of christianity ever since they were very young. Why is the Christian any more special? The muslim is only doing what they’ve been told is the right thing to do, just like many christians. The muslim is only believe what they’ve been told is truth, just like many christians. I’ve lost count of the Christian religions that exist, but every single one of them is a spin-off of catholicism in some form or another.

      You all have to understand that their is intelligent design in this Universe. The mere fact that we have our senses (eyes, ears, smell, touch, emotions) is proof of this. Everything that is in existence right now had to be thought-up by a sentient being before it came into existence. This being created not only all the good in the world but the evil as well. I believe in a God who exists beyond space and time. Who is far more advanced than all of us. That God is not going to judge you based upon the religion you subscribe to, however, you will be judged on how you decide to use the consciousness that was given to you.

      I believe in God and I think I may also believe in Satan. However, as the bible says God created lucifer. The bible also tells us that god is an all-knowing being. Why would God create Lucifer if he knew what lucifer would do? It’s simple, balance. For without the ultimate evil, how could good exist? Without rainy days sunny days wouldn’t be so special, this contrast comparison can be applied to almost anything.

      Now, as for consciousness. It exists not only in the physical form but in a non-physcial form as well. I do not believe we go to either “heaven” or “hell” when we die. I believe that our consciousness slips into a new reality. All-be-it another dimension, I don’t know. Consciousness in itself is special and I do believe it continues on, maybe indefinitely, I don’t know. Their are many unseen layers to the world around us. Sometimes those layers blend and we get momentary glimpses into them.

      In the end, I believe in diversity and the Universe is full of just that. Look at the diversity among mammals and other life forms on planet Earth and that’s just a tiny sampling to what may truly exist in our Universe. Diversity is a beautiful thing. I know one thing, if Jesus is the only way to heaven then by comparison to the consciousness that exists in the Universe heaven must be a very small place and it’s full of hypocrites.

      Just my .02 cents, but I say to anyone who reads this. Search for truth from within and do not rely too heavily on a religion. There are thousands of religions and ALL of proclaim to be the “truth”. Obviously, that’s insane for there can only be ONE truth.

      • Hello Mike!

        Religion is mans work and a curse.
        But I believe (and know) that our creator talks to us and that we once came from heaven and that we are going to return to a heavenly place again.

        The Bibel tells why we are here and were we are going.

        you don’t believe in heaven or hell.

        I do.

        if I have wrong it doens’t matter.
        If you’re wrong

      • Mike

        You have right about that our mind -after the death- slips into a new reality.

        If I – who believe there is a heaven and a hell after death – and I have wrong , it will not be any problem for me in ‘the next dimension’

        But if you have wrong about the hell – you will be in trouble in the next dimension.

        Jesus showed us that we will be alive after death.
        God bless that we have a free will to believe in whatever we want.

        God Bless that we have a free

  64. Hi Mike,

    Thanks for your comment—I can see that you are earnestly seeking the Truth. I was once where you are. I came to faith as an adult and what I can tell you, by experience, is that the Truth exists only in Him. Unlike others who claimed to know the truth, Jesus said that He IS the truth. I don’t know why the universe is so huge and yet so devoid of intelligent life, but the Creator has not seen fit to tell us about that. Perhaps He intended for us to populate the universe. Maybe that plan was set aside because of the Rebellion. Just as mankind could not be allowed to eat from the Tree of Life and live eternally in a state of sin, so the contagion of sin may have required that it be quarantined to Earth

    I do not for a moment believe that “aliens” are anything but spiritual entities. God has a powerful enemy in Satan, who is a master of illusion. That Satan would even attempt to unseat the Master of the Universe bespeaks of great power. We are puny in the face of such evil machinations. But God is much more powerful than Satan—who has already been judged. When we put our trust and faith in God, we are rewarded with not only peace in this life but an eternal life of creativity and joy in His presence.

    • Yeah, and to muslims Alah is the truth. And buddhists believe in no god. Jesus, Alah, nothing at all? Whose right? They’ll all state their case as truth, but I have to say that I agree that there are many paths to the same place. It boils down to personal preference, an how you’ve been raised.

      You see, I was raised Roman Catholic. During each mass catholics perform a ritual known as transubstantiation which can’t be desribed as anythings else other than magic. For those who may not know, transubstantiation is when, through the ritual of the mass, the priest turns the bread and wine into the REAL body and blood of Jesus. Catholics believe they are eating REAL flesh and drinking REAL blood. Transubstantiation is probably the single biggest difference between protestantism and Catholicism.

      Either way, you don’t know that the Universe is devoid of intelligent life. You state that you think “aliens” are spiritual beings. Maybe, but as I said before consciousness exists in many different forms. We ourselves are spiritual beings in a physical form. We’re trapped in this form until we die. Where our consciousness goes after that, I’m not sure, however I don’t think it’s quite as black and white as heaven or hell. Judging by the example of our planet, I would think that our universe is probably FULL of intelligent beings that exists in physical form. Who knows how many may exist in a non-physical form.

      Debate aside, I live by the philosophy of “live and let live”. Of course I take what I need to survive but otherwise I go out of my way to never kill a living thing. If I’m walking across the parking lot and a cockroach runs in front me I do not stomp on it. For it is alive and conscious and since it exists it has every right to be here just as much as myself. I treat everyone I meet with respect and always try to be as kind as I possibly can. I am no saint but I always try to follow the golden rule. I believe in God, but I’m not so sure about the Jesus thing. I think there may be something to it, but who knows. So many minds have been messed up my hardcore dogmatic religious fanatics, it’s a shame.

      • Mike,
        As you I do believe that we’re spiritual beings, trapped in a physical form.

        But that spirit inside us is not clean, it have once been corrupt.

        Therefore we need the spirit of God wich is the only spirit that is absolutely clean.
        That spirit -the Holy Spirit- can only be obtained by baptizing.

        As far as I know I don’t know any ‘religion’ besides (true) Christianity that- in the name of their gods- can heal from cancer, blindness, mental illness….and other diseases.

  65. Hi Mike, I’m going to try to respond to what you have said, point by point. You raise what are obviously serious concerns of yours and I want to try to address them. Please bear with me.

    Mike: “Yeah, and to muslims Alah is the truth. And buddhists believe in no god. Jesus, Alah, nothing at all? Whose right? They’ll all state their case as truth, but I have to say that I agree that there are many paths to the same place. It boils down to personal preference, an how you’ve been raised.”

    Ellen: First of all, you have already admitted to a supreme being because of the intelligent design of life that you see around you. In trying to answer questions about God for yourself, it would seem that Buddhism is out of consideration because it cannot lead to answers about God. Excuse me for grossly simplifying but I can tell you that you will get inferior answers about God because Islam is basically a degenerate form of Judeo-Christianity with some added paganism. But it does recognize Jews and Christians as “People of the Book” and that is helping Muslims to convert to Christianity in increasing numbers.

    Mike: “You see, I was raised Roman Catholic. During each mass catholics perform a ritual known as transubstantiation which can’t be desribed as anythings else other than magic. For those who may not know, transubstantiation is when, through the ritual of the mass, the priest turns the bread and wine into the REAL body and blood of Jesus. Catholics believe they are eating REAL flesh and drinking REAL blood. Transubstantiation is probably the single biggest difference between protestantism and Catholicism.”

    Ellen: I would agree that is a major departure and one that simply does not abide by God’s work of Truth. The New Testament, the Book of Acts describes the early Church as meeting frequently (daily in some cases) and that they “broke bread together” and called it “The Lord’s Table”. It was not some elaborate ritual and one can be certain that they did not think of the bread as the actual body and blood of Christ. In fact, as the early Church was peopled with a lot of Jews, that would have quite put them off as Yaweh had forbidden such things (which would have been practiced by pagans). In the days of the Counter-Reformation, a Roman Catholic priest would hold up a communion wafer in front of a Protestant. If the Protestant refused to kneel and kiss the wafer, he/she would be killed. It was diabolical but then, there have been those elements in the RCC from very early on.

    Mike: “Either way, you don’t know that the Universe is devoid of intelligent life.”

    Ellen: True, the Bible does not concern itself with that question although it does tell us that there are other beings in the universe besides the ones who inhabit this planet. But they are spiritual beings–angels and demons.

    Mike: “You state that you think “aliens” are spiritual beings. Maybe, but as I said before consciousness exists in many different forms. We ourselves are spiritual beings in a physical form. We’re trapped in this form until we die. Where our consciousness goes after that, I’m not sure, however I don’t think it’s quite as black and white as heaven or hell.”

    Ellen: The Bible says in Hebrews 9:27 that “…it is appointed to man once to die, and then the judgment.” When we die, the immaterial part of us separates from the material body. The Bible assures us that immaterial part will live on forever in one of two places. In ancient Judaism, those two places were called, “Paradise” (it was sometimes called “Abraham’s Bosom”) or “the place of torment.” After death, an individual’s soul went to one or the other. Jesus refers to these two places in the story of the “other Lazarus” in Luke 16:19-31. It was thought that both places were part of “the place of the dead” (the name for the place of the dead in Hebrew is “sheol”). There was an uncrossable gulf between the two parts of sheol. The Greek word for “sheol” is “Hades” which is actually a different place from the Lake of Fire referred to in the Book of Revelation–the ultimate destination for those outside of God’s mercy. It is also referred to as the Second Death. Jesus mentioned both Hades and “Gehenna” (the Lake of Fire). Unfortunately, our English translations refer to both as “hell”, which is not helpful. But, in any case, we can be sure that Jesus would not have taught about them if they were not real places that we must go to—one or the other.

    Mike: “Judging by the example of our planet, I would think that our universe is probably FULL of intelligent beings that exists in physical form. Who knows how many may exist in a non-physical form.”

    Ellen: Maybe—maybe not. Ours is the “just right” planet. If you consider all the various parameters, there may be only a tiny, tiny number of planets capable of being inhabited by the only intelligent life that we know–Earth life. And nothing suggests that they must be inhabited instead of being empty. Evolution is quite a sham, as I would guess you are intelligent enough to know. Godless men must have godless evolution. Otherwise, a Creator must be posed.

    Mike: “Debate aside, I live by the philosophy of “live and let live”. Of course I take what I need to survive but otherwise I go out of my way to never kill a living thing. If I’m walking across the parking lot and a cockroach runs in front me I do not stomp on it. For it is alive and conscious and since it exists it has every right to be here just as much as myself.”

    Ellen: Actually, Jesus said that you are far more valuable than a sparrow, let alone a cockroach. But you are right to avoid wanton killing. It is the devil who “comes to steal, kill and destroy” and we want to be like our Heavenly Father who seeks to bless and protect what He has created.

    Mike: “I treat everyone I meet with respect and always try to be as kind as I possibly can. I am no saint but I always try to follow the golden rule. I believe in God, but I’m not so sure about the Jesus thing. I think there may be something to it, but who knows. So many minds have been messed up my hardcore dogmatic religious fanatics, it’s a shame.”

    Ellen: I would agree with you, Mike. That is why Jesus invites us to a relationship with Him through the power of the Holy Spirit. Religion is one of Satan’s ways of getting his hooks into us. He knows that humans were born to reach out for something above and beyond themselves. There is some part of us that always seeks to worship the living God—even though that impulse is often distorted by sin and frequently becomes something ugly. Those who are truly guided by God’s Spirit are loving, joy-filled, peaceful, patient, kind, generous, faithful, gentle, self-controlled and rational—like Jesus was/is. All of these traits are the “fruits of the Spirit” of God (Gal. 5:22). Jesus had the max on all of them because He had the “Holy Spirit without measure”. (John 3:34) There are many “Christians” who don’t have the Holy Spirit at all—and Romans 8:9 tells us that they really aren’t Christians at all because only those who are indwelt by the Holy Spirit can rightly call themselves His followers. Instead, these “Christians” go about doing the will of the devil just as the unbelievers do. They may not engage in sin that has major consequences like murder, rape, adultery, etc. but all sin has consequences—especially for future generations who WILL be affected by it. Sin is like that, it is accumulative.

    Anyway, thanks for coming back and dialoguing with me. :-)

  66. This whole thing is a hoax. I believe the aliens may be a genetic crossing of species of animals and plants with humans to make humanoid looking aliens. The Demons,or fallen angels somehow are helping the elite of the world along. They have developed advanced technologies like what we would call anit gravity propulsion. They have placed colonies on Mars and other places ,maybe Venus and Titan, the moon. Obadiah vs’s 1-4 Uttered Gods prophecy of the power in the air “like the eagle, and off world colonies as in ,”placing of your nest among the stars” But even from there he would bring them down, just as the ones who will hide in the caves mentioned in revelation. . . Underground cities and bunkers.

    This is all to launch an attack on the earth to get rid of almost everyone, and set up their NWO or anitchrist kingdom and start over . This will be the biggest false flag attack ever. This is warned of in Ezekiel chapter 38 and 39 .Notice it is a numerous military force, and they come up like a storm, ” like clouds to cover the land” . . . sounds like anti gravity craft that will cover over towns and cities like we see in Hollywood films. Ezekiel even mention this force coming upon open rural country. . . Writers of stories like War of the worlds, and Idependence day, V ,Star Wars , and films like it seem to put some truths in plain sight,but with the spin of ” Aliens” . Think about the wealth the elite have accumulated over the last 100 years. They also used Nikola Tesla’s knowledge and stole his work when he died.

    What I believe is that the elite who are ruled by satan and the demons formed a break away society and will pose as aliens. They have fleeced and dumbed all of us down here on earth with their eugenics programs, all the while they use good eugenics to enhance themselves . They have created a military force to do their bidding when the time is right.Just like in the movie: Star Wars Attack of the Clones; armies being built without anyones knowledge of them, even the most enlightened Jedi. This ” numerous military force” of Ezekiel 38 is just that, a secret advanced army that is space based ,and can decimate the mainline armies and airforces of the world,just like in the movies war of the world and Independence day. In fact illuminati sysmbols are there, as well as sun worship like the Vatican sunburst. Look at the weapon on ID4 when it deploys and freeze the frame just before it fires. It also has similarities to inside the domes in muslim mosques. It is like a combination of the Vatican sunburst and looking up inside a dome of a major mosque like the one I saw in an Iran documentary .

    I believe this attack will be the Great Tribulation mentioned in Matt 24 and Revelation . As Ezekiel shows; this is where true Divine intervention will come from Jehovah and Christ. He will have to cut it short or no flesh will be saved as Jesus warned in Matt 24. Everything in the political and entertain realm is a distraction from their true endgame, world domination. Thank God it will not be a success as Ezekiel describes . This is the ” one thought” of the ten horned wild beast in Revelation 17 . This space technology will also be used to destroy the Great Harlot/ Babylon the Great which is the world empire of religions, east or west including the vatican created islam. Vatican is the ” Mother Harlot” and the rest are her harlots as vatican city is the mother of harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth” Also the Great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth” as the closing words of Revelation 17 says. This is it. We will soon see the greatest event in history unfold very soon. The ” hooks in the jaw” of Gog of maygog is the disclosure of information.The more the public wakes up, the sooner the attack must come… they are being dragged to the fight as Ezekiel says…

  67. Thank you Marie for replying to my post. I read and copied down what you said it is interesting :)

    @Mike
    Mike religion is a lie straight from the pits of hell. It’s about believing The Word of God, Trusting Jesus. Not religion.
    Matthew 4:4  But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

    The Word of God is Amazing. It reveals Truth after Truth after Truth. It is 100% Truth. But in the past i did not see it at first. It was not until i finally asked The Holy Spirit to reveal to me the Truth in His Word. Then i finally started understanding and now i give All the Glory to Jesus Christ!

    Mike Jesus(God in the flesh, The Word made flesh) God is very much against religion read this link.

    http://youshallknowthetruth.squarespace.com/god-hates-religion/

    Also here is a beautiful Blog i want you to read.

    Mike i deeply love you. God came in the flesh humbled himself and died for the whole world while we were still yet all sinners. Jesus is the only way to heaven

    Romans 2:1  ¶Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.

    Matthew 18:4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

    The first sin ever in existence i believe was pride. lucifer was the angel of light. And God cast him out. I can tell you by the Grace of God that pride is so sneaky and dangerous. It is also possibly the most disgusting thing i have ever seen. And it crushed me in times past when i was unknowingly prideful.
    I now find a great way to combat pride is to do simple little helpful tasks around Church. Never would i have imagined that my brothers & sisters doing a tiny little helpful thing such as cleaning up a few things could be so amazingly powerful and helpful.
    And this is what partly made it so amazing and powerful that watching my brothers and sisters in Christ do little jobs around the Church then joining them to help was helping destroy my pride.

    Also i read partly that you were raised ”Roman Catholic Church” And like always we should answer that with The Word of God.

    Acts 10:34  ¶Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

    Proverbs 27:14  ¶He that blesseth his friend with a loud voice, rising early in the morning, it shall be counted a curse to him.

    Proverbs 16:2  ¶All the ways of a man are clean in his own eyes; but the LORD weigheth the spirits.
    3  ¶Commit thy works unto the LORD, and thy thoughts shall be established.
    4  ¶The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
    5  ¶Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.
    6  ¶By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.
    7  ¶When a man’s ways please the LORD, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.

    the catholic religion contradicts The Word of God.

    Also know when we Trust Jesus.
    2 Timothy 1:7  For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

    2 Corinthians 5:7  (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

    Mike if you want to talk more with me send me a message on my facebook or friend invite on my facebook

    God Bless you Mike :)

  68. There is already an ET presence among us. It does not work for the welfare or best interest of humanity. It influences our corporate and government leaders and it programmes society via media and religious organisations. The New Message, a New Revelation, for humanity’s emergence into the Greater Community (of intelligent life), explains who / what the visitors are, and their motives for intervening in humanity’s affairs, and into the affairs of an emerging race in general.

  69. I foun this article so very interestig. may we all be prepared. have to rebuk the deesus died for us.. the blood of jesus rotects us from all evil.

  70. I am sure US is ready to launch the Cyborgs, a man made humans which intend to kill only. This alien issue was started long back when this programme was started and now they are preparing innocent and empty minds of so called christians (readers of man made Bible) so that what they are gona do to the world, no one should blame them. Shameless.

    • Shamefully,the US has already launched the first prototype,they are called drones.They are “calling” fire down from heaven just like the Bible says they would.Jesus Christ is still The Lord.

  71. They are absolutely part of satans plan to bring about deceipt and manipulation in the last days. The Holy Spirit has been doing miraculous things with me this past year but on March 5, 2012 the Lord gave me a dream as I had been studying Revelation, Daniel and every scripture involved throughout the Bible in the last year. He woke me in the middle of the night and said…Quit looking for the convenant, it has happened. You are in the last 7 years now. The next thing to look for is the Abomination of Desolation…which is midpoint in the last 7 years before Christ returns to set up his 1000 year millennial reign. Also, as I have been reading, watch you tube videos the Lord did reveal to me the things you read and see on the internet about “reptilians” or “shape shifters” as they are sometimes given that name..are real. And yes…Nephilim are real. Hard to explain how he is revealing all this to me but he is. Pray for all unsaved loved ones and ones that are in the church of the Laodiceans. First get your life right with God. Denounce any sin at all that he is convicting you of. The prepare food, water, and anything/necessities you may need as we will be here very possibly for the “mark of the beast” where we will not be able to buy/sell and that means food and other things just to survive. Please believe me the dream is from the Lord. I pray you ask God to help you to discern this truth. Time is short but it will be rough. Be ready for the one world government soon…which may come about from where they create havok ( and demons as aliens are very possibly part of the plan) …to make people “trust” them…..we will “save” you….there has been much planning for years and years and years by satans puppets…prepare yourself.

    • I don’t even know what to say to this other than it sounds like the rantings of someone who is delusional and should seek psychiatric help.

      You basically just said, “hey GOD told me the shit is about to hit the fan so you better prepare.” I don’t believe any of this will come true within the next 5 to 7 years.

      As far as aliens go. Well, we have astronauts. We have space travel capabilities, though still primitive. Eventually we’ll figure out how to get around the Universe in an efficient manner. One day, some primitive planet will be calling us the “so-called reptilians/nephilims”. Aliens are just another life-form possibly created millions of years before planet earth every existed. They’re more advanced because they’ve been around longer. They’re organic, just like us. What their intentions are, I don’t know. Given the amount of “hush-hush” about their existence makes me wonder if their intentions aren’t so good. They certainly have a motive otherwise I’m sure they wouldn’t wast their time. Maybe they created us? I don’t know.

      There is only one true God. The one that can create himself from nothing, that is the one true GOD. For only God could create itself from nothing. That God exists beyond space and time. Beyond our reason and comprehension. I believe in that God. As far as the Bible goes, well it was written and edited by MAN.

      It’s pretty safe to say that radical christians and religions have caused more pain and suffering in this World than anything else. It’s a plague upon our existence and religion should be wiped off the face of the planet.

      • I am actually more together than I have ever been in my life. Jesus Christ has worked miracles in my life over the last year. This is the entire story of how it all began. Prepare….time is short.

        This is my only explanation I have for how the Holy Spirit is working in me. You will understand what I mean after you read my story below.

        John 7:38: He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living waters.

        MY STORY:

        24 years ago when my son was 7 years, I was called into his school and told they believed he was sexually molested and he portrayed all of the signs of a sexually abused child. I myself had been aware of how he was acting and saying things I did not think normal but at 28 years old honestly I was naïve about thinking adults doing things to children. I could not fathom who did it but had one suspicion at that time and it was his stepfather whom I was married to at the time. He was a little unusual and I had begun to think he had homosexual tendencies (although this does not make one a child molester). I just could not imagine who did anything to my son. He never went to babysitters as I never went “out” so he was always with me, his stepfather and of course his daily sitter while we worked that had kept him from age 2 to age 7 when I found out. His sitter he had for all those years was my neighbor and she was also my Sunday school teacher and I gave my life to the Lord in her home. Her husband was church treasurer and sometimes helped with the daycare as he seemed to always be in between jobs. I actually trusted them more than my own family. Well…needless to say, my son’s behavior got so out of control he had to be institutionalized for 3 months at Vanderbilt Children’s Psychiatric Hospital in Nashville. They of course did all the normal “play therapy” but to no avail. In the meantime my husband and I separated and my son and I moved to an apartment. His behavior got worse…he began to also curse the name of Jesus. I had him prayed for, prayed over and everything you can imagine. Once a person came to my apartment and told me that there was a demon of homosexuality after my son. I was not aware back then that people really could discern spirits but I never doubted what he told me. My husband and I did get back together and we moved back home but divorced a year later. At that time, my son at 9 years old tried to commit suicide by taking an overdose of the medication he was on. He was again put in an institution and stayed in patient for 3 more months and then went in the day for 6 more months to their day program. They abused him physically I found out and of course I immediately took him out of the program. During this time they tried to get him to talk about his abuse and he adamantly refused. Period. During this last hospital stay, some other children that were 4 years of age…2 others to be exact, went home from the same day care my son went to all those years and told things that had been done to them that were sexually inappropriate to say the least. We ALL went to the same church. We ALL trusted this daycare provider of course as they were leaders in our church. I was shocked to say the least. I confronted them and asked the wife could her husband possibly have been the one to do something to my child as she had shared with me during our friendship that he had been sexually abused by his father when he was growing up. I was devastated and told them I needed answers. Well…she hung up on me as I had called her on the phone and we NEVER spoke again. They changed churches and I was going through so much trying to get my son help and he never would tell who did what to him so I had no legal recourse against them. He did tell me the day before this suicide attempt at 9 years old that he had to give an adult a “blow job” and adamantly refused to tell me who. He then tried to kill himself by taking an overdose. They eventually closed down their daycare I had heard and that was like I said 24 years ago. My son tried to commit suicide again at 14 and again at 21 years of age. To say the least I have struggled to keep my faith that God would one day take care of this but I NEVER gave up. I kept the faith of a mustard seed most days and some days occasionally a mountain although it was hard.

        Fast forward to Good Friday of 2011. On this day my son beat his 6 year old little boy and left many many marks on his entire back. (He had rarely ever spanked him though before this). I was devastated for the poor child and knew the anger from my son’s sexual abuse was coming to a head. Up till this time my son had become a drug addict, alcoholic and verbally and physically abused his wife. He threatened to burn the house down with her in it on numerous occasions. I did what I should have done and that was I called the Department of Human Services. Life has not been the same since. I was so devastated I told God that 24 years had passed and I needed to know who did what to my son as it was literally killing us all. My son over all these last years’ refused to talk about any of it much less admit he had a problem. I got on my knees and told the Lord that I would seek Him like I had never in my life and would study His word for the truth as I said in my spirit I sensed he was returning soon and I was afraid that my son would to go hell since he cursed the name of Jesus. He used to tell me that there was not a God or all that happened to him surely could not have happened. The Lord told me in my spirit “seek My face and I will fix your problems”…so I got on the internet and got my bible and I typed in the words” God I want to know the truth” and started studying. I told him I needed the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

        As I studied of course my main interest/focus was on the book of Revelation/Daniel and every scripture involved it led me to. I began to read and read and read and read. For hours every night…doing exactly what I told the Lord I would do and He said He would fix my problems. Well…as I began to read different interpretations of scripture I began to get confused on “who” had it right so I just kept studying. God says to ask the Holy Spirit to teach us and even to discern the truth if what pastors teach us as well is his truth. We ARE NOT TO TAKE YOUR WORD OR ANYONE ELSES WORD…we are to study ourselves. About 4-5 weeks into my diligent seeking, I was so confused one day and in my mind thought “is it this way or is it this way”…and as I would think of each direction I started feeling little flutters in my belly. At first I was like…”what is that”…is that you God? Well…I kept studying, seeking, praying and repenting of my sins (God was really cleansing my soul). As I studied over the next week or so He would move in my belly directing me which way to go as far as the last week of Daniel. As you know there are many views out there…and about pre trib, post trib, etc. After a few weeks of this I was truly amazed and still not quite sure what was happening. I went for a ride with my husband one day although I told him I really want to sit at my desk and study and as we were riding I was thinking about everything I had read and to myself asking…ok, is it this way or that way…and God started moving in my belly answering me when I was thinking in the direction He wanted me to go/study. I chuckled to myself and thought to God…Lord, Jack (my husband) will think I am nuts when I tell him you are moving in my belly…and I literally FELT the Lord chuckle back!

        Ok, so over all of last summer I literally repented of sins, ask God’s forgiveness, rejoiced in all that He was doing. As I went through this I would be just thinking certain thoughts in my mind on who did what to my son many years ago and realized that the Lord was ready to give me the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth just as I had prayed for. He revealed as I asked questions by literally moving in my belly (to yes and no answers) that my son was abused by his Stepfather AND the babysitters husband. He revealed to me my father was sexually abused (in comes generational sins). I too had done things with my brother at a very young age from about 5-10 years old that were not of God and only of satan and although I had gone to my brother about 5 years ago and talked to him about my memories and had done a lot of healing from this already ….it was one more generation of perversion satan had managed to get his foot in the door…and carried the sexual sin another generation with my son. I did know that since I had gone to my brother that I had broken the chain and prayed the Lord would help me break it with my son and what happened to him.

        My current husband had some issues that had affected our marriage and had for about 10 years as well but denied it. Well…the Lord revealed to me all that was taking place with him. He actually told me to tell my husband that what he was doing was “detestable” to him and he needed to denounce it. I went to him and gave him the message from the Lord and he of course denied it. I kept studying, seeking, praying and God kept revealing things to me. He revealed to me in advance when my husband would get phone calls from 2 specific people that they were involved in the same sin…when the phone would ring He would literally move in my belly and I would ask..Lord do they have the same problem…and He moved and moved (weird but true) I kept seeking. He told me again a few weeks later to tell my husband what he was doing was “detestable” and to denounce it. I told him again. He again tried to deny it. I said…I am telling you what God told me to tell you…Well, things started getting evil in my house. Literally one night the Holy Spirit vibrated my stomach so hard it felt like a chainsaw inside! LOLOL!! Again, weird but true, warning me of the evil of something going on with my husband. I prayed for safety, and as I would look in my husband eyes they looked weird, different and evil. That was how I can explain it. Also, I told my son what the Lord revealed to me about his father molesting him. He did not deny or admit it. He said “I don’t understand how God can tell you in your belly”…and I am going to leave the past in the past….”Dad has enough problems with his health right now”…and I don’t remember much but I am moving forward. I told him, David you cannot move forward unless you deal with this. Jesus can help you if you will let him. Now…understand after I called the dept. of human services on him for beating his child he told me I was right, he was wrong and he was going to do everything in his life differently. Well…as I prayed and sought the Lord as I promised, God worked on his end of the deal as I began to sense a change in my sons spirit like you would not believe even before I told him about knowing his father did this. Now…my daughter- in-law thought I had gone off the deep end. I had told her that I felt like shooting my son’s father and she took it literal and told my son…Your mom is going to shoot your dad…they called and told him what was going on. He called me and said “so God told you I molested David”…and I said YEP, he did. He started crying and all he could say was “what about all the good things I did for him”…I told him he needed to repent of what he did to David to God and to his own son for what he did. He was crying so hard…then he hung up on me. That was last September. Now, what this truth the Lord has shown me did was to let my son know…”yes, there is a God” as he did not believe it or the evil/perversion surely would not have happened to him…therefore it was keeping him from believing in Jesus Christ…just what satan would have wanted and David would never give his life to the Lord. So, since my son knew he had never told a sole that his father had molested him, he had to know that the Lord is truly real! Jesus Christ won this battle…

        Then….God said it was time to separate from my husband…the evil was getting worse and I could sense danger (although he was far from a dangerous person).I left him. He begged me not to but I did. The day after I left he got on his knees and prayed for me to come back. He realized after a day that he was praying for the wrong thing and the next day he got on his knees and prayed for God to cleanse him of this sin in his life ( the sin he adamantly denied to me) and to forgive him. Well…he told me the Holy Spirit literally vibrated his entire body from top to bottom and he felt the demons leave him. I then understood the “look” in his eyes and the evil presence I felt and that God warned me of the last few weeks I was home.

        But…these months I kept praying, studying, seeking just like I promised God. Never gave up! And…He started showing me many more truths than I ever could imagine. He moves in my belly and lets me know when I am in the presence of evil spirits….in public places, when my husband and I are around each other and they are trying to attack him, he has a son that is very far from God and every time I am around him God warns me of the evil, He warned me when my car was getting ready to break down, He warned/warns me when I make a wrong turn on the highway ( sometimes it takes me a few minutes to realize why He is moving In my stomach but I eventually do). He lets me know when I have taken my grandson to a movie the songs they play that are not of God. At the skating rink when I take my grandson, He tells me when a song is playing that He does not approve of…all by moving in my stomach. The list goes on and on. He also though still continues to move in my belly when I am studying truths. (the feelings/movements are different for evil vs good/truth).

        Well…this all lead up to my contemplating that I did not think that satan would want us to know about when the covenant that most people think has to happen still was signed and God gave me this dream:

        The Lord woke me in the middle of the night on March 5th as I was dreaming about the 70th week of Daniel. When I woke, I immediately remembered that God told me we are IN THE FINAL 7 YEARS NOW…to not be looking for any covenant. I ask him “Lord did you wake me so I would remember this dream and he moved in my stomach to FIRMLY and positively tell me YES I DID. I then went back to sleep and dreamed the Lord telling me that I needed to be looking for the abomination of desolation next. He then woke me VERY FIRMLY again by moving in my stomach and I asked him again “Lord did you wake me again so I would remember this dream” and in no uncertain terms he said by moving and moving in me YES I DID. The next morning I woke and prayed and sought the Lord and in amazement asked him to please clarify that it was him waking me and telling me what he did and he absolutely moved in me like he does when he wants to GET MY ATTENTION. Yes, I did wake you and this is what I wanted you to remember.

        So..I am shouting the news. Our Lords return is soon. I have come to the conclusion myself that his church will be taken at the 6th seal. I do not KNOW that for a fact but from my studying this is the conclusion I have come to thus far. I did not believe in pretribulation rapture even before the dream as most do. We will have to endure much of what is to come. I am preparing so that I will not have to take the mark of the beast to buy or sell food during this time.

        I feel so grateful for the truths He has shown me. I am cleansed from the inside out and feel blessed to be able to worship Him so freely. I guess when I asked for the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth he honored my request as I honored my commitment to Him by diligently seeking Him as I promised. As I said, some of the truths are personal and some are not. I believe that the Lord gave me the truths about these final days because I am bold enough to speak it unlike most pastors of today as most are not even studying or paying attention that we are living in the last days as we know it.

        In all my studying, I also learned what scripture meant when God says the following:

        Matthew 7:13-14: Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: because strait is the gate and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

        Matthew 721-23: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful WORKS? And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

        John 14:15: If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter that he may abide with you for ever.

        I believe he means all 10 commandments.

        John 14:21: He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?

        I realized I was NOT GOING THROUGH THOSE GATES…Although I “believed” in Jesus Christ..I realized that even satan “believed” in Jesus. The Lord expects it to be a much deeper relationship than just believing. He says ….keep my commandments. I was not doing that and the Holy Spirit speaks to my heart daily…on keeping all of Gods ten commandments.

        I was in the church specifically talks about in:

        Revelation 3:14 “The lukewarm church”
        These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy WORKS, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will SPUE THEE OUT OF MY MOUTH. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing: and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked. I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich, and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eye salve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

        So…I can say today, I know without a shadow of doubt, I will “sup” with the Lord. He is the Lord of my life, my Master, my Redeemer, my Friend, my Counselor, my ALL. Up until one year ago, although I “believed” in Jesus I would have been spued out of his mouth.

        Now, it seems to me this will be happening soon as family is already turning against family. I have been shunned by many of my family members since I have told them this story… 4 of my siblings, my daughter in law and some nieces. They literally have told me I am satan.

        Matthew 10:21-22: And the brother shall deliver up brother to death, and the father the child: and the children rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. And ye shall be hated of all men for my names sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

        I will endure to the end. No words man can say against me (even saying I am satan or filled with satan) will ever make me turn my back on Jesus Christ. I choose Jesus. To the end.

        James 1:2-4 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

        James 1:12: Blesses is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to then that love him.

        Only in Jesus Christ name I write this…

  72. God has given man dominion over the earth. So that means he has given man power over all the enemy. So that means that we become like Jesus and heal the sick, set the captives free, and that Satan has no power, and goes about like a roaring lion. A lion usually roars when he is afraid.

  73. All of you must read repeatidly yearlong the spirit´s books
    on men´s life both carnal and spiritual(after death );they
    have all to do with Jesus and the Cristian Bible but in a
    Spiritual Vision not merely religiously . Allan Kardek`s
    books and the Spitualist Philosophy . Spiritist Doctrine
    explaning the Bible.

  74. Mike,you just proved the point.YOU have declared war on people you disagree with.You want to wipe them off the face of the Earth.Then,you speak of things in the universe as if you have seen them,even gave a “prophesy” about things to come.I guess you should “wipe” yourself.

    • I assume by how you’ve twisted my words into your own interpretation you must be a fundamentalist christian. It’s just like them to twist things to suit their own meanings. My apologies Christopher but I never did make a “prophe’c’y”, sir. I was merely speculating on the basis of logic. As far as declaring war, well the US government has already declared war on radical close-minded ways of thinking. This example can be followed by what is happening in Iraq to extreme Islamic groups more commonly known as “terrorists”. This is an example of what religion can do, and has done, and will continue to do. This is what stems from fanaticism and close-minded ways of thinking- irrationality. Religion is the foundation upon which this way of thinking stems from.

      Sorry, maybe I struck a nerve Chris- that was not my intent. I hope that you’ll interpret my clarification the way I meant it to be portrayed. Best of luck to you sir.

  75. No apologies needed my friend.We are all on the same planet and must make it work,or we lose it.You are right,religion is used as a weapon.It is despicable what my country and a few others are doing to our planet.Best Wishes to you!

  76. They call themselves aliens, but they are the fallen ones. Also, a simple google search: “Jesus vs Paul” will show you endless pages upon pages of contradictions of Paul to Messiah’s teaching. I met one of these so-called Aliens, trying to fool me that it was an angel, but…when was the last time you saw an angel with tentacles? I was with this thing a long time. I repented. Long story.Think what you want…. Don’t fall for Pauline laisez-fiare, and do the father, and son’s (Ye-HO-Shua’s) will. Repent! Paul is the psy-ops from hell. There is no such thing as an “OLD” testament. Prepare thyselves!!!! They are not human……Hail, the saviour YE HO SHUA. It is not gonna be pretty,if we are here at all, soon. ISAIAH 66:24 GEt ready. It is very near now. Only the father can protect you. Prepare!!!!

  77. They call themselves aliens, but they are the fallen

    ones. Also, a simple google search: “Jesus vs Paul”

    will show you endless pages, upon pages of

    contradictions of Paul’s teachings to Messiah’s

    teaching. I met one of these so-called Aliens, trying

    to fool me that it was an angel (Malach), but…when

    was the last time you saw an angel with tentacles? I

    was with this thing a long time. I repented,long

    story.Think what you want…. Don’t fall for Pauline

    laisez-faire, and do the father, and son’s (Ye-HO-

    Shua’s/Ye=Ho-Sha’s) will. Repent! Paul is the psy-ops

    from hell. There is no such thing as an “OLD”

    testament. Prepare thyselves!!!! They are not

    human……Hail, the saviour YE HO SHUA. It is not

    gonna be pretty,if we are here at all, soon. ISAIAH

    66:24 Get ready. It is very near now. Only the father

    can protect you. Prepare!!!! The Pauline Jesus

  78. I believe you…the Holy Spirit has told me they are for real…and yes, they are fallen ones!! I am preparing!!!! I also agree, time is short. I believe we are in for some tribulation….it is not too late if you prepare your hearts FIRST..with Jesus Christ…then prepare some water, food and necessities.

  79. We think we’re so special. Some epic battle among good vs. evil will culminate around our existence. Well… I think we’re the same decaying organic material as anything else. The Bible and religions are all inventions of MAN. Personally, if it is all real- I think it’s a bit unethical of our GOD to make us all pawns for the little game he’s playing. I think I would rather choose to NOT exist than to be caught in all this.

    • I need to add you to our prayer list. I pray you come to know Jesus before all that is soon to take place. Jesus Christ is real. The Bible is ALL truth. Time is short. you may need to repend NOW.

      • You see though, Deb. Evil will always exist because evil has to exist. Without evil, good would not exist. For if there was no evil, then what we would know as good would just be ‘normal’. There has to be a contrast, a balance so-to-speak. An all-knowing God created Lucifer knowing full well what he would end up doing before he did it. Why do you think he created him the way he did? In doing so this God created Evil. There wouldn’t be a protagonist without an antagonist. There wouldn’t be happiness if not for sadness. Without these contrasts life would be bland and boring.

        We don’t choose to exist, we’re simply born and are here. After we’re born we’re told to believe in certain thing, to think a certain way. Fear is used to get us to believe this way for if we don’t our souls will be eternally damned. Fear is the single best tool for manipulation. I personally find it quite wrong to place a persons immortal soul in eternal pain for simply not believing the way it was told to believe, especially when that soul never even chose to exist in the first place.

        If Christianity works for you, then great I guess, but it doesn’t add up for me. I believe in one all-knowing God who exists outside of the confines of space and time. I believe this God is good and allows his sentient creations to have free will and do what they please without interference. Living our short life-times and then ending up in either eternal happiness (which sounds too good to be true) or eternal damnation (which sounds down right wrong) just seems a little bit silly and I can help but to think there is more to it than this. There is much our existence that the Bible doesn’t tell us about, but then again the Bible has been through many hands over the years. Edited who knows how many times and much has been removed from it. Not to mention its origin is from the minds of men. And any man can write something claiming it was divinely inspired.

      • Mike,

        Evil will not always exist, for God is Great.

        Revelation 20:10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

      • Yes time is short. Get on your knees and just same the name of Jesus and he will reveal to you that he is REAL… You need to prepare your heart now. What is going to be coming upon this earth VERY soon you will need to know Jesus as your saviour without a doubt. Pray that our Lord will reveal to you if you seek him if He is real. Ask and you shall receive.

    • Mike when you die and your spirit leaves your body you will know how wrong you were.I drowned when I was a toddler..my spirit left my body..so I’m telling you..we are more than organic biological units…we are beings that matter.

  80. What I can tell you is the Holy Spirit is very real to me. The Holy Spirit from the Trinity of God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. He moves in me…literally. I clung to the hope of Jesus Christ for many years over trials that happened to my son when he was a child at the hands of child molesters. I finally really gave it up to Jesus a little over a year ago and fell to my knees and said If you are there, I need you NOW. I am at a breaking point in my life after all these years and I need you NOW. Well…He came through. In a supernatural but very real way. He is real. I pray you just say the name of Jesus and see what he does. My story is in a post above and I promise you, I am not crazy, dillusional or making this up. He is real. And He is coming back soon. Think about it. All the war rumors and things going on in the middle east…be on the look out. First you will see the war that is prophesied in Jeremiah 49:34-39,then you will see the Psalm 83 war and then the Ezekiel War. If you are not a believer now. read these scriptures and watch the wars as they happen. The will happen and He is real and He is soon to be on the other side of the door and getting ready to open it. Think and pray about this.

  81. Have you ever heard anyone say they think Jesus is an alien? I have at least twice.

    Here’s another thought; If the world thinks the Antichrist is Christ, then who will they think this person coming from the sky is? When they see the “sign of the Son of Man in heaven” will they think the earth is under alien attack? (Matt 24:30) Doesn’t this idea go a long way to explaining why the armies of the world keep on fighting Jesus at His return?

    I think this is a part of the great delusion of the end times. I also think that once the rapture of the Church occurs, and Satan is no longer held back, those left behind may well see fallen angels walking the streets of their cities, claiming to be aliens!

    Think about it. If there are “aliens” walking on the earth, will the world think these are friendly aliens, come to save us from a hostile alien takeover?

    John was not familiar with 20th century ideas of aliens as “little green men”, is it not possible that this is what he identified as “frogs” in Revelation 16:13?

    “And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.” Revelation 16:13

    • Good comments. There is information pertaining to ‘alien’ / foreign ET races, and to our World, and to Spirituality, in an Universal context … within a Greater Community of Intelligent Life. A greater awareness of God is now required, one that does not limit It with human tendencies / traits or any anthropological form or perception. It also speaks of a ‘darkness’ .. force of dissonance, that is present within our World, some of it is a natural condition of humanity, in perceived Separation from Source, and some of it is from beyond the World. The New Message Org. Human Sovereignty Org.

  82. GOD,, SATAN, ANGELS & DEMONS – NONE OF THEM ARE HUMAN, & IF THEY ARE NOT HUMAN THEY ARE ERGO ALIEN & THUS NOT TO BE TRUSTED.
    HUMANS HAVE BEEN PLACED INTO THE MIDDLE OF A WAR NOT OF OUR MAKING & BEEN TOLD TO CHOOSE.
    & THE WAY IT IS TOLD TO US THROUGH THE SCRIPTURES BELIES THE UNACCEPTABLE TERMS PRESENTED BEFORE US.
    BASICALLY GOD IS SAYING – DO AS I SAY OR I WILL DESTROY YOU!!. IF WE WERE TO DO THAT TO OUR FELLOW MAN WE WOULD BE LOCKED UP – BEING INCURABLY INSANE.
    & IF SOMEONE CAN LOOK INTO THE FUTURE & PROPHECY, AS GOD HAS DONE THROUGH HIS PEOPLE, TO ME IF HE CAN SEE THINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN, THEN THESE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED BEFORE, THAT BEING THE CASE HE ALREADY KNOWS THE OUTCOME OF ALL EVENTS, SO WHY PUT US THROUGH ALL THIS CRAP IN THE FIRST PLACE – UNLESS IT’S FOR HIS SICK PLEASURE AT MANKIND’S EXPENSE..
    AND TO BACK UP THE SICK PLEASURE THOUGHT, HOW COME PEOPLE PRIOR TO MODERN MEDICINE WERE ALLOWED BY GOD TO DIE IN HORROR & UNIMAGINABLE PANIC IN THERE COFFINS – BURIED & BY ALL ACCOUNTS THERE LIFE OVER NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN, THERE PART IN THE UNIVERSAL FIGHT OVER.
    BUT DID HE LET THEM JUST STAY ASLEEP, JUST DIE AS THEY WERE NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES NO THEY WERE ALLOWED TO SUFFER, FOR NO GOOD REASON BY A GOD OF LOVE, YEAH RIGHT!!.
    NO ALIENS SHOULD NOT BE TRUSTED, WHOEVER THEY ARE.

    • I can see your point, however I think when making assumptions about God we must first take into consideration where our knowledge of God comes from- the Bible. Then consider the source of the Bible which is man. Same goes for religion. Now we’re trying to interpret man’s interpretation of God.

      God is good. Just the mere fact that we exist is proof of that. However, God gives us free will and does not interfere regardless of the situation. Do atrocities happen? Sure. It’s all part of the process and balance of the Universe. All things have their place including horrific atrocities and pain and suffering.

      I think of this world as no more than a proving ground for souls and sentient beings. Where we go afterwards, I don’t know but I do not believe that life ends with death.

      • Mike,

        You said: “Then consider the source of the Bible which is man.”

        My Comment: 2 Timothy 3:16 says: All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

        And as to where we go afterwards: There is a heaven and there is a hell. The Word of God is the truth. Unless you believe in Jesus Christ as your Savior, and that goes for everyone, the end result will be devastating. Christ died on the cross for all of us, and his gift to us is Great.

        Revelation 5:9-13 And they sang a new song, saying, “Worthy are you to take the scroll and to open its seals, for you were slain, and by your blood you ransomed people for God from every tribe and language and people and nation, and you have made them a kingdom and priests to our God, and they shall reign on the earth.” Then I looked, and I heard around the throne and the living creatures and the elders the voice of many angels, numbering myriads of myriads and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud voice, “Worthy is the Lamb who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing!” And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying, “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever!”

  83. i want to add just a small couple of facts in this thread of peoples oppinions and beliefs.

    I was born a christian and hold to many aspects of the bible to be true. But as i have been exposed to a number of events, facts, articles and witness testimonials i decided to collect and collate facts and histories from around the world into what made sense to me.

    The fact is the equation is bigger than christianity and bigger than what we believe to be god and the son of god.

    What word i will use now i choose carefully not to offend people here but the true destroyer of our future is “truth”. The christian religion cant hold to be the one true religeon merely because its considered a modern day religeon. 2000 years of one religeon in compared to tens or hundreds of thousands of years of man on earth? I believe now its small minded to hold true to a moderm day religeon and have 100% faith in something which was nor the first nor will be the last. Have christians and muslims and every other religeon been brainwashed into thinking that every other older belief had no importance during their time? Just that fact alone stands tall shadowing christianity (which is but one religeon in thousands before it). Has no one even connected the dots yet with the fact that all religeons tell of exactly the same story in just a different context? The bible was never a book to be taken literally which so many have done. The old testament and the new just like all religeous books are a guide to human beings. A warning, a message, a code and the strength to how we reflect in our own lives. This set of messages have been twisted over the years re written by other human inspirational understandings to it all. It is still the same detail in whatever form or language.

    end of days 2012 december? maybe it isnt destruction for us all like in the story of noah and the flood. But the end of this ancient calendar and the beginning of a new one. One of enlightenment. More people are starting to become more tuned with themselves and have already started seeking the “truth”. The truth which we all believe is written in the bible hidden but is very much there as it is with all religeous books. Aliens, secret agendas, plots, mass murders…..this is all true….but its not the will of god that will end us all……its the will of man himself.

    while we humans hide behind religeon claiming we will be saved if we believe etc the plan unfolds to the next level. This has all been manufactured to cause divisions through the lands and keep man from being one entity. We would not be categorised as race, there should be no race…..africans, asians, christians, muslims etc etc. Our world has been massacred for one reason and one reason alone. The humans who really control the power on earth are hidden behind a curtain. That curtain is invisible to all who choose to remain ignorant and naive. You believe in god then there must be a devil? This devil does not hide, the devil i speak of is not one entity but a governing body, a power which controls possibly every drop of water of every house everywhere.

    The facts are all around you all you need to do is unstick from what you fear the most. I know to think for a second has my faith been put into the correct place is scarey for most of you. The reality is this – if man cant come together and become a unified strength to fend off our real enemy…..no god will save anyone. Jesus was slapped on one cheek, he acted by turning the other…..this is not a literal meaning like all passages in holy books….its a message. Its a teaching that man should learn from this and use it as a guideline for his or her life. God made us in his image….of course he did. With DNA today we can make any image we please. The progression of the human race is vital but worthless if the powers are in the wrong hands…..why is it most fanatical religeous parties are from either poor backgrounds or economically damaged countries? Why are the super powers constantly staging terrorist attacks to justify global attacks in peaceful countried to steal oil and other resources.Example from many…..twin towers incident……was planned 20 years ago as multiple set of catastrophes waiting to be launched when the time grew near for an excuse to invade for resources. Are we that stupid to not be able wake up and see how the over populating humans are being brought up brain washed and indrectly mind controlled by the real enemy of the people. We are being grown and hearded for what reason i cant be sure. We have no chance if we cant unite.

    In my research ive found outsanding evidence. All around the world, in the ancient kingdom…..monoliths, architectual phenomenons, structural giants and designs which dont make sense to the best of todays trades. Why is this? Have any of you wondered…….??….this is right here on earth, not the moon or mars right here on our planet and still only a few have connected the dots…..go look up ancient alien theory to get a small glimpse of what im talking about….

    i think ive said enough for now……its impossible to fill this space with the info that exists leading all of us to the real truth…….the concept of human beings goes way beyond what most of you can possibly imagine and like i said before the new age is approaching and hopefully if we can stand united our truth will be revealed to us. Earth is not mans only home. We have stretched to here as we have done to many other systems. We do what every other natural living creature has done for eternity……survive!

    • Well said. You’ve touched on a MUCH broader aspect here. However I can see most die-hard Christians simply saying that it’s all part of the “deception” plan. I think the deception has already happened. We do need to unite. We need to understand that we’re all the same and we’re all in this together. No matter what your current skin color or religion is, we have to realize that we’re all the same- we’re all humans. We have to put aside petty differences and quit arguing about whose right and wrong and start focusing on the fact that we need to work together regardless. There’s evidence to purport that highly technologically advanced military bases exist not only underground all over Earth, but on the moon and mars as well. Part of surviving on a universal scale is by not having all your eggs in one basket, like we humans are here on Earth.

      As far as technology goes, we’re talking anti-gravity propulsion, invisibility, mind control, the ability to move in and out of different dimensions, and not to mention having root access to the internet and being able to access any camera, microphone or any device connected to it.

      They are biologically and medically so advanced they’re practically immortal and have created a Utopia for themselves. While no one is immortal, because on a long enough time-line something will catch up with you eventually, living for hundreds or even thousands of years is within the realm of possibility. They create viruses and medical conditions which can attack various genes, and organs in a body. Like a virus that can destroy the pancreas causing someone who was healthy otherwise to get diabetes. This is part of the economic plan.

      There is a long-term economic plan in affect. We could have vehicles that get 100mpg easily if they wanted us to have them, but buying gasoline generates ALOT of tax revenue all across the world. We could even have a different type of vehicle not based on a combustion engine. However, we are being used to support the elite. They are controlling the amount of technology we have access to so we keep “consuming” at a rate that provides long-term security for themselves. If they let us have what they have and know what they know then we wouldn’t have to work anymore or at least not as much and who would want to work after knowing all this? Everyday when we clock in, we’re contributing tax dollars to the cause. Tax dollars to buy more brilliant MIT grade scientists to technologically advance themselves even further.

      This is our current reality. There is a movement happening because I’ve been obsessed over knowing the truth for quite some time now and no man-made religion can come close to satisfying my curiosity.

  84. “There is a heaven and there is a hell. The Word of God is the truth. Unless you believe in Jesus Christ as your Savior, and that goes for everyone, the end result will be devastating. Christ died on the cross for all of us, and his gift to us is Great.”

    What about all the Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, and all the other religions who have a different form of the Bible, like the Qur’an, and do not believe in Jesus. They’re all going to hell for doing exactly what you’ve done. For believing in what their parents believed. For believing what they’ve been raised up to believe. That doesn’t hardly seem right, does it? Because if this is true, then the majority of the people in the world will be in hell.

    Also, you said…

    “Evil will not always exist, for God is Great.

    Revelation 20:10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.”

    Who created the devil?

    “My Comment: 2 Timothy 3:16 says: All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,”

    Any MAN can write that. It’s simple, you just write it. It doesn’t change the FACT that it was written by man. As we have been taught there is no perfect human except Christ himself, unless you’re catholic and they say the Virgin Mary was flawless as well.

    Christianity manipulates you through fear. It promises the eternal damnation of your soul if you don’t believe. Fear is the single best form of manipulation, hands down.

    I’m sorry, I appreciate your concern for my soul but I’m hanging on to my logic here as I am well sure you’ll hang on to your beliefs.

    I believe that God judges based on what is in our hearts. I can’t imagine all these people going to hell for simply believing in what they were told to believe by their parents. Most of these people in different religions aren’t bad people, and I couldn’t imagine a just and fair God condemning them for that.

    Being religious based upon a literal interpretation of the Bible is, in my opinion, a primitive way of thinking. More and more people are realizing that each and every day. More people are realizing that there is a lot more to our existence than the Bible tells us about. The Bible has good teachings and is a great model for one to base the way they live. That’s about it.

    • “What about all the Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, and all the other religions who have a different form of the Bible, like the Qur’an, and do not believe in Jesus. They’re all going to hell for doing exactly what you’ve done. For believing in what their parents believed. For believing what they’ve been raised up to believe. That doesn’t hardly seem right, does it? Because if this is true, then the majority of the people in the world will be in hell.”

      Bingo! From one primitive being to another….

  85. as above states…..completely correct on all subjects.

    We are all victims of the divide and conquer strategies which have been in play since the beginning of man on earth. Best example of this can be to imagine a couple of puppets whose strings are being pulled by the puppet masters. The puppets will never know who are pulling their strings even though most dont realise they are actually puppets.

    Best trick the devil ever pulled? We all know this saying……..making us all believe he never existed in the first place.

    The truth was never hidden from us to begin with but what better way to cause confusion, conflict and war? Deny the truth when confronted. This again has been in play for thousands of years. We believe man is going forwards with every year of technological breakthroughs and revolutionary invention? Man has never left his spot without the say so of the true world powers.

    The goverments are false and have no power to their promises, The plan is not to heal you when you are sick but to control the where and the when we will be terminated. Natural selection? We were always considered insignificant and weak because we could be so easily mind controlled.

    Check out things like death of diana in the royal family of england, how sadam hussain was a trained CIA operative before he went rogue and even osama bin laden whos family was super tight and close with the bush’s of america.

    Where the road leads will never take us to full truth unless we do unite as one. We over throw these goverments who decide best for us to live in a capitalist world where greed and selfishness grows in one another like a disease losing touch with our true human capabilities – to care for one another and rise up and claim right to our home world as we should. Not to continue living life in this glorified prison to which our end is written by anothers hand.

    I dont want to live in fear, nor full of unanswered questions. Religeon is a piece of the puzzle cleverly written and carefully edited to leave a generic set of stories which would be obviously comprehended differently to each person who puts faith into it. Imagine 3000 years ago if i knew what i knew today……i could write my own bible and cure sickness like jeses did back then using modern day medicine. Would that make me a prophet or the son of god? The bible i would them leave behind after my miraculous life would be left for the rest of the world to follow……not questioning if i was a fake or for real. It would be that simple for me to this living back then. I would take advantage of a human age needing a hero, a saviour and taking them for myself…..just like khan, alexander the great, stalin, hitler, sadam and osama.

    My point is this….our genetic code allows us to be exploited. Like a virus to a program. We have been lied to for thousands of years, made to focus in wrong areas and embrace negative energies. Think how much better life would be having no worries, no sickness, no pressure of society grading you a mark. You would never be judged nor need to commit negative acts because life would finally be at peace with a system that uses everyone as everyone would put back into that system for the greated good.

    Right now there is proof scattered all around this planet that confirms the earth is not only resident to humans. But there are a known number of off world beings who have been here for a lot longer. There is a galactic war going on and right now we humans are in the middle of it. Our goverments hide this from us because their strings are being pulled to do so.

    UFO sightings have risen dramatically over the last 3 years, natural disasters too. This to christians and other faith followers is the sign for end of days…….to someone who has figured out to think out the box is a beginning to a new age. One that would revel to us the truth and possibly in the process end us all. How do we defned ourselves when under attack? When that time comes the world will be asleep and it will be too late.

    Just like with noah……our gods got tired of watching our boring, bickering, destructive and corruptive ways. They flatlined us over a period of 40 days using our own oceans and weather.

    When we watch sci fi films, where do you think these so called famous directors get their stories from? There is no such thing as a good original story from the stars….its all taken from lost history and lost truths which have been kept from us since the beginning.

    how many people out there knew that just before a war happens you have offensive country A verses defensive country B…..a man from X company appears and offers country A money to finance this so called war…..the catch……is the interest which is to be pad back of course. We all knew this right? Ok but how many know this part…….same man from X company goes to country B and offers the same help to help with defence…..ie putting guns in childrens hands prepping them for war. Same catch at the end…..interest is gained on the loans. Now when both countries are reduced to rubble guess what…..same man from company X….appears to both countries…..offers more money to help rebuild…….guess what then? Correct…..more interest gained on the load……hence….both country A and B are now under the power of man X’s company until they pay off the loan…..great plan right? would it work as successfully if it was written how i have detailed it? Probably now….the devil works in as many wonderful ways as god does – unfortunately were seeing more handywork of the devil these days than gods……

    another example quickly before i close this post is the EU……European Union for those who dont know. Just before it happened……it sounded like the best thing in the world. EU was to become a super power as all countries unite would equal one major power right???? Among other great positive promises the EU was never a design for success. Its simple….how can a continent with over 44 major countries expect to become a power when only a handful of 6 /7 of those countries are the real power/ You flood in those countries with desperate people from the poorer countries and what happens? Whose money is used to help and feed the needy? Not the goverments thats for sure….its the tax from the people……among other points how can the weight of 20% feed the other 80% needy countries and the declare being a super power…….???….anyone notices why UK has still not changed to the Euro? why would they……the new babylon headquarters doesnt want to join with the fall of europe…..Germany is another country which dangerously plans on doing much damage to the EU as more and more countries start to crumble out. Greece has become 3rd world almost with acts like goverment officials losing their nerves and smacking women in broad daylight and officials still running the live feeds for the world to see…..the riots arent stopping either…..italy and spain are next as they are working they way through more and mode debts…….i dont follow politics….i dont have to,……why would i waste my time hearing officials bore me to death with the problems we keep hearing about where nothing is ever done about it. Labour in uk messed things up….we all hated them for it….shift of power goes to the concervatives…..now what…..same rubbish……its a waste of our time which is being planned from beforehand to brainwash us while the real threats are being allowed to play out.

    This thing goes way deeper than any of us will ever come close to finding out. One thing is fact…..what we have been taught at school, and what we are being told today on tv….is not true.The same media that brings us the news works for the same X company helping to repeat false news to the brainwashed masses keeping them powerless while the greater evil unfolds……

    come on people……if you have time to read this you should have time to find it in your hearts that this is the reality on this planet. I dont know how much time we have left before its too late but i feel its not long enough. We need more people with access to infomation that can create a power big enough for us to overthrow our current systems……and rewrite our destiny’s to what they should of been from the start – a path of peace and enlightenment

  86. DEMONS? GOD or what we’d call GOD cannot be contained in dogma! The god most Christians believe in demands worship. I highly doubt a being of superior everything would demand anything. GET A CLUE.

      • Yes…He has given us “free will”…I am so grateful that I have chosen to follow him. If I had to face what is soon to come without Jesus as my strength….I would be one of those that their “hearts fail them”…I am planning and preparing and God will have us helping those that are unprepared. You may be one he has someone help if you realize even in the midst of what is to come you realize he is Lord.

  87. Yes, this is real. Please listen to this speech by JFK. Ignore the pictures with this, for the value is not in them but the speech itself. Please listen to this.

  88. Yes…it is real. and has been for thousands of years. They are fallen angels and nephelims. Genesis 6:4 ….As in the days of Noah speaks about this verse. note it says There were giants in those days, and also AFTER that…meaning after God destroyed the earth during the flood…these fallen angels and nephelims did not dissapear. They are going to try to make us think they are “aliens” from another planet but they are only demonic beings.

    • Exactly .. Mens hearts will fail them when they see these things… and and Angel from Heaven descended with a key to the bottomless pit(abyss) petrus romanus; the Harbringer; Apollyon rising …. wnd.com for these resources or raidersnewsnetwwork.com

  89. Please people give over. Don’t believe in something you cannot see. no one knows if ‘God’ is real.. You religious people think your superior to everything else,well for a start animals are a lot smarter than you think. You can teach ANY animal to do anything you want it to with food. And you can teach ANY human to do what you want if you involve money (whats different)???? Maybe ‘God’ did create the world but religion sure is ‘NOT REAL’ as it contradicts itself too many times just like evolution does. PEOPLE GET REAL look upon one self in order to change the world, don’t pray to ‘No one’ pray to yourself… You ALL look to blame someone….. BLAME YOUR SELF!!!!!!!

    • I am glad I believe. but not only that I know! The Holy Spirit is very real and present in my life. He told me many truths as I sought the Lord on my knees and He has healed me of many hurts and cleansed me to the very depth of my soul. Jesus Christ is returning for his faithful believers soon. When you start to see many things in this world getting more evil by the moment and you will have to take a mark to buy your food….THINK TWICE and if you take it…too late. you sealed your fate.

      • It’s obvious to see the World isn’t going to change. Religion is nothing but one mans interpretation of the Bible versus another mans interpretation.

        God judges based on what is in the heart, not based on what religion you subscribe to.

        I pray that people will look for truth from within. I pray that people will quit hating other people because they are christian or not christian, muslim, homosexual, black, white, brown, or yellow, fat or skinny. I pray that we’ll come together as the human race. I pray for the future and survival of mankind, on our home, planet Earth.

        I really wish we could look past our differences and see that we’re all just flesh and blood- one and the same, despite our beliefs. I wish we could unite as a single race, despite religion or nationalities, but it seems as though there will always be people beating the dead horse and saying “I’m right, and you’re wrong”.

        I guess if we’re doomed, we’re doomed. Death is inevitable anyway, right?

      • Why would I want to read your blog when I know your opinion is bias. This is based upon what I’ve read from you already and the fact that you call yourself “godsfingers”.

      • I only offered it up so that you can find the TRUE definition of religion or religious. You and those like you throw those words out erroneously in attempts to trash someone.

        Of course my “opinion” is biased. I base what I say on the Word of God and that would make it not an opinion, but a fact. God’s Word is changeless, not subject to man’s twists. I’ve had to make many changes in my life to line up with God’s Word instead of changing His Word to suit my lifestyle. God’s Word offers incredible freedom, not the supposed bondage that those caught up in sin make it out to be.

      • Oh, additionally, if you read the blog you’d know that godsfingers comes because I’m a worship leader and play the guitar. The moniker actually came from a guitar forum I was on where my music is dedicated to God’s glory, not mine. So much for your attempt at accusing me of arrogance.

      • Mike,

        You are right when you say only God knows the heart. A man who claims he is Christian and may go to church every Sunday and scream he loves Christ, BUT who in the same breath says he hates gays will not see the kingdom of heaven. A man who claims to love God, and is gay will not see the kingdom of heaven. Those are just two of the man “wolves” in sheep’s clothing. You cannot hide from God, and you cannot claim to love God if you commit these sins, and do not repent.

        Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ESV)

        I tell you this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. (1 Corinthians 15:50 ESV)

        Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

      • Believe me, sir, if I felt you had the truth you’d be asking me to leave you alone.

        I never did accuse you of arrogance. This is YOUR interpretation of my words. I was merely adding to the point that your opinion is biased. As far as arrogance goes, well, given that you brought it up must mean that you’re quite aware of your own ego and that it might have been damaged.

        What happened to turn the other cheek?

      • I shouldn’t laugh, but sometimes things, even serious things, become laughable at the comments. Sorry, no ego involved to be bruised, God took care of that. You seem to confuse ego and arrogance with your own lack of understanding of contending for the faith as opposed to compromising it…

      • Truth be told, I think you’re a troll and that the majority of your comments add very little to no value to the conversation at hand. I just wanted to give you a taste of your own medicine.

        You may not agree with what I say but at least I’m trying to come up with a solution. At least I’m adding something of value that someone else may be able to take something away from the conversation- Just like Gloria does as well.

        You make snide and short comments to those you disagree with and rarely ever explain your opinion very thoroughly. I don’t know if you’re trying to prove others wrong, or prove to yourself that you’re right- you’re so vague, it’s hard to tell.

      • Somehow, I thought YOU were the troll, leaving very little of value to the discussion. Creeping your way into forums create dissension and divide. Comments are as they are, comments. Dissertations are for my blog. You, obviously don’t have the decency to develop a line of thought. you obviously haven’t paid attention to any of my lengthy comments, which I keep to a minimum. Don’t confuse my familiarity with lack of development.

  90. This whole ordeal boils down to two possible scenario’s.

    1. Either God, Jesus and the Bible are all real and during the end times events we’ll all be saved when Jesus returns. Those that control this planet are supernatural beings known as nephilim, demons, or the fallen ones. Their goals is to corrupt the hearts of men and send their souls to hell.

    OR

    2. There is a highly-advanced malevolent alien species who hail from Alpha Draconis, known as the Draconians (they are reptilian aka “the serpent”) who are ruling this planet. The elite’s of the World (politicians, big bankers, etc.) are faithful to them because they’re of a hybrid bloodline to them. They’ve been ruling over this planet for ages now, feeding off the labor of men. Their goal is to suppress mankind to keep them from becoming an intergalactic superpower so that they can have this territory (galaxy) and no competition. Everything man knows they’ve fabricated in one way or another and this includes the Bible. They control mankind through fear-based belief systems and debt enslavement. This is partially our fault because money is make believe, but we as humans, with our small-minded mentality, like our status’ in society that money allows us to have therefor we continue to allow money to control us.

    Okay, that was just the two scenarios in a nutshell, they are each much more detailed obviously.

    Now, lets see. If #1 is true then that’s great!! The faithful have nothing to worry about and will be saved by Jesus upon his return. Believe me, I want to have faith in this as well!

    Now, if #2 is true. The Draconians have had the story of Jesus’ return planted to pacify people during end times. To make people sit back on their heels waiting to be saved while they have there way with us. If this is true then it’s very very clever.

    At this point in time, there is more empirical evidence around the World to support #2, but I am of an open mind and still to me there really isn’t quite enough evidence to support either.

    My solution, we must stand together regardless of beliefs, nationalities, race. We must pull together and fight to end our debt enslavement. We must shake off negative energies and have nothing but compassion for one another. We have to overcome the divide and conquer strategies and pull together as the HUMAN RACE for our own good and survival.

  91. I am a serious student of the Bible and the verses quoted on Genesis 6 and Ephesians 6 have been very difficult for Theologians to interpret. After reading this blog I feel somewhat enlightened on these two chapters. We Christians must be alert at all the
    deceptions that have come in the past and will continue to come in
    the future. We must continue to use our God given wisdom to read the Bible in it’s entirety in order to know “The wiles of the devil.”
    The fact that demons have access to our minds and can tempt us is
    further evidence of his wickedness against us Christians. I know that evil will continue to attempt to “Snatch us up out or our saviors hands” in any way possible.
    The Bible refers to the heavens in many places for us not to look up at the sky upon which Our God lives. But we must also understand that the infinite universe that we are a part of also contain the evil forces of the devil.
    We Christians that continue to read the Bible and pray for wisdom can be assured that we were created in GODS’ image and we will be able to detect good from evil regardless of its form.
    “Submit yourself to the Lord, Resist the devil, and he will flee from us!
    Pastor Ruiz

  92. Amen! And..as the time draws near for His return the enemy is going to be trying to devour as many Christians as he can. Put on the full armour of God! Pray for protection and He will send his angels to put the hedge of protection around you. I am looking forward to his near return! Thank you Jesus for saving me.

  93. If you folks are what I have to look forward to,I would rather then that the end come sooner.I don’t know who is more arrogant,the believers or the unbelievers.God is.His Word is true.Believe or don’t.But quit this nonsense of man being worth anything more than an asteroid smack into oblivion.With this in mind,seek out the truth.Not your version of it.Not mans interpretation of it.Not a religion.Not a church.Seek the Lord.

  94. AREN’T THERE ANY GOOD FRIGGIN’ ANGELS/DEMONS/ALIENS???? WTF. ITS A bad/negative/helfire/. IS THERE A GOD? A SUPREME BEING? THE GOOD GUY??? I BELIEVE IN GOD. PERIOD. DOES THAT SAVE ME? I DO NOT BELIEVE we WILL ALL BE BRAINWASHED. JUST THE IDIOTS WHO WILL CAUSE THE PROBLEMS.

  95. Dear Chris.
    (I don’t know whether you are truly interested in an exchange of thoughts, or if you’re out to provoke, or if you’re just upset?
    But I choose to treat your comment as a valid question.)

    The devil believes in God. period.

    But this doesn’t mean he’s going to get off the hook. :)
    In fact, I believe most of his thoughts are directed towards God one way or another… (being his enemy).

    To break it down:
    God made the earth and all of the universe, and us. And He had a purpose in creation, so we are not here by accident.
    It’s all His, and therefore He sets the rules.

    He lets us know what He wants through His word – the Bible.

    (Even when people have no access to the Bible, God has put a sense of right and wrong in people’s hearts and consciences. And nature itself speaks about God – if we care to listen.

    We humans immediately screwed it up, by listening to the devil, (and believing him more than God), in wanting to ‘become gods’ ourselves.

    The very first generation of humanity turned their backs on God, and in the second generation we already had the first brother-killer…
    Thus the relationship and trust between God and mankind was ruined. And the very nature of mankind was forever contaminated by this sin – like a hereditary genetic disease, it affected all generations.

    The age old lie of the serpent-devil to mankind was promises of deep, secret knowledge – ‘enlightenment’ – and, foremost, that we supposedly have the potential to become gods/ divine ourselves, and therefore don’t ‘need God’.

    This same ancient lie has been regurgitated, repackaged and retold through all ages. And mankind has swallowed it – again and again. Because we would rather be our own little gods, than have God dictate the rules for us.

    I think one of our atheist, evolution-preaching celebrities once said, that even the thought of a Creator existing was ‘unthinkable’, or even ‘unacceptable’ to him.
    (I guess he really didn’t want Anyone to be accountable to?!)

    (People want to live like devils, and then still want to go to ‘heaven’ when they die! …as long as God isn’t there.)

    The Bible is clear that the age-old lie of Lucifer, about mankind ‘achieving godhood’ through ‘enlightenment’ – that ‘we are all god’, and therefore ‘we are all one’ – will be more popular than ever at the closing of this age.

    In fact, if you care to scan all the new age-influenced messages that are ‘out there’, you will recognise the theme.

    And if so called ‘aliens’ (another trick of the devil) have any future part to play on a grander scale, this will be their message too. That’s already apparent.
    Repackaged, retold, of humanity achieving ‘godhood’… of a giant, evolutionary ‘leap of consciousness’, leading to a golden age of ‘ascended’, semi-divine, mankind. All ‘peace, love and understanding’…

    Except it’s all a lie.

    God in heaven allows this spectacle to go on, just as He allowed Lucifer anywhere near Adam and Eve to start whith. As a final test and trial of mankind.

    Where will our loyalities lie? Whith God, the Creator of all good things, and the Father of salvation – or whith Lucifer, the destroyer of all good things, and the father of lies?

    As a final test, and for a limited time period, God will allow the devil free range on earth through his chosen vessel – a global leader. (Isn’t it interesting how the world seems to call out for such a leader…?)

    The ultimate choice that everyone living will have to make is whether they accept their own divinity or not. (Those who reject mankinds divinity, in favour of the One-and-Only God, will be ‘helped along’ to the ‘next life’, i.e. executed.)

    Hindus (and new agers) are taught to greet each other whith ‘namasté’, which means something like ‘the god in me greets/ acknowleges the god in you’.

    A true, biblical christian can never greet another human this way. But this is supposedly the new age (and the so called ‘space brothers’) goal for all mankind.

    When God in heaven has hade quite enough of this charade, He will deal whith the devil, and his puppet leader.
    Jesus the true Messiah will return to earth to bring justice, and judge the wicked.

    I say ‘good luck’ to those who believe themselves to be little gods, when they stand before God Almighty!
    I bet they will feel more than a little awkward…

    sincerely, Ingela

  96. Dude, wtf? Aliens being demonic beings sent by satan?! Are you mentally ill? God doesn’t even exist, mate! Any I agree with the dude below, if aliens do exist and they could be bothered to actually create a vessel allowing to utilise interstella travel why the fuck would they want us? We litterally have nothing. If they can make a spaceship we have nothing they could possibly want. Our world is running out of resources anyway so they can’t take them lol. You guys are insane hahahaha!

  97. I wont be coming back to this subject on this site again because it will be pointless and further proof that whatever is spoken here, oppinion, debate, argument and belief its hot air which results in same ending – the cycle which reaches yet another nothing – like it always has for mankind.

    We speak and speak against one another – whether it be “amen god is real and i can feel it – i know it” or “there is no such thing – religeon and god are fantasy given from the super powers above for the weak and poor to cling on to, some sort of hope that there will be a better life up there after here”

    Point is we can sit on the net till the end of days debating it. We all have our beliefs and we all wont change because of what the other says. This is what makes us unique, makes us human. We are a stubborn and narrow minded species and we are not that far off from our neighbouring animal, insect relatives (and whatever life form is also present on this planet) because what we do or say is insignificant in the end. We are a blip when looked at from afar, we are an atom of dust that is passing by. Its true whatever created us alien or divine (maybe they are both the same thing). What im trying to say is whatever we believe or not we have failed in one huge global error. Our ability to live together on this planet in peace, united – sharing resources and excelling in technological advancements for the benefit of earth. Instead we live in a real hell on earth no matter how great your lives feel to you. Corruption is in everything and so is diceit. Im willing to put down my whole life that everyone has done at least one thing in one sense or another which confirms the previous statement. I know this because its in our nature. We are not from a peace species nor a derivative of one. Our roots are made up of historical facts which will shock most of you. Our true nature of who we are is not found from religeon nor from science. But the 2 combined. Our DNA is key to what we are and where we are from and not fables and myths. The earth? Is one of many places we have lived on and we will continue to move to other locations like the dust atom which i decribed earlier. Unfortunately part of our DNA is catastrophic and destructive. The anger genes, the aggression and hate genes. More in there too just to mention a few. These were part of our rapid evolution upgrades which derived us to what we are today. A history lesson which you can all go read up on is found at scientists who have not been bought to keep the truth down can confirm some interesting facts about our being.

    Without confusing the subject any further i will tell you my point. The truth is already starring at everyone of you in the face. It always have and the clues were never hidden, nor were they destroyed. They were always in front of every person on this planet. The reason why we are still in the dark? No one has looked past our religeous boundaries nor or current historical facts to put 2 and 2 together. Plus our beloved governing agencies to deny anything exists is enough to shunt even the most eager truth finder.

    To answer with a question. How can all the christians in this room, as all muslims, jews, etc etc reading this now accept with how it is possible to believe in something which has been borrowed throughout the ages from prior religeons which im pretty sure most of you have not been introduced with. Im talking religeons of the ancients world. They also did believe in something no? 12 gods of olympus, the egyptian gods Ra and his crew, the ancient indian world with their facts that they even witnessed a super advanced race battling over the earth with another super advance race in machines called vimana’s. The sumerian religeon alone explains pretty well whats going on with where we came from and what we are. But like most humans….we run on single vision mode till we die and cant accept huge possible truths like that as it would turn your worlds upside down. So we choose to live in ignorance. Better we stick to what we know and not ask any questions just in case…..just in case were wrong. My first question came quite simply as a fellow christian. How can we be correct when so many before us were wrong. This my friends is the same answer people say now where they say there is no other race outside of this planet but us. Ignorance serves us well this is truth. My second question came when i discorvered our beloved templar christian brothers (on their journey to take the holy land) hid behind the cross only to massacre women and children in the name of god. That god is no god of mine and any who follow the real truth of what these so called christian murderers did then again thats fine because it is your oppinions end of the day and oppinions tend to warp real facts and shape shift them into an altered reality hand made for each and every person in this rooms who believes in something.

    Im no shrink, nor am i some professor at some university. Im a simpleton who works with microsoft and computers all day and in my spare time i read. I read and read and ask more and more questions. At this stage in my life and from what ive read thus far. What we have done as a species stands to be a threat for peaceful civilations accross the universe. This my friends is my last oppinion to the thread. The bible tells the story of noah and the flood. complete wipeout basically preserving the animals. Well this doomsday happened for a reason and it will happen again. You see when i said before we have failed its because the god we all believe that is looking down on us has found itself contemplating our destruction yet again since we are what we are. A threat off world. Since our technologies are slowly taking us further and further away from our planet well i guess this was the last straw. Letting us shit on our own doorstep and destroy where we live is one thing but taking this to another planet and be responsible for the killings of innocents to which we would be alien to? I would destroy us too before i would let that happen. Only saving our infants who would still carry the pure un-corrupted souls which could save us.

    This moment in time, i am but one man on this planet. A family man who just reads and joins the dots. If you can learn to read our history and see what we have gone through and what we have done. Hope is a word we are less deserving to be put to our use. We indeed need a miracle to unite us as one and stand against the corruption and begin a new. To ask of this is to ask of divine intervention. Or maybe a visit from our true creators, the ones who really did make us and the ones who know our real true history.

    I will let your beliefs comfort the thought of what is to come

    i bid you all a pleasant evening

  98. Hello Keri. Well stated.

    Folks, Keri is right. We can debate, debate, and debate and accomplish NOTHING but our own demise. If you all would do just a little bit of research, listen to people like Phil Schneider on youtube, research D.U.M.B.’s (deep underground military bases). There is little actual “proof” evidence but these types of places take a lot of service to maintain and they’re are those who have shared what they’ve seen and know. You won’t hear these things on main-stream media, that’s for sure. You have to seek them out, actively and fervently. Science and religion are very closely tied. Manipulation of DNA. What if our DNA was to be manipulated to the point to where people lacked empathy and everybody was self-serving? With advanced enough science, things like that can happen. Right now they’re talking about downloading and putting a person’s entire personality, their consciousness on a computer. What if a person could put their consciousness into photons (light particles)? Sounds kind of like an angel to me. The Bible is primitive mans interpretation’s of what they were seeing/experiencing. They couldn’t fathom an airplane, let alone advanced anti-gravity propulsion machines, satellites, the internet. If they could have fathomed those things back then, then I’m sure the Bible would have been written much differently.

    After all, we all have a soul, right? After we die, it goes somewhere… right? Heaven, hello, who knows? Really, what’s the difference between the Devil in the bible and a highly-advanced malevolent being? We’re all creations of GOD, the source, including the Devil. If we could advance ourselves enough we could potentially become a beings “Devil”, “Savior”, “Angel”, “God”, whatever you want to call it. Either way, they’re one and the same except for the one-true God, the source, which exists beyond the confines of space and time. The God who gave all of his creations free-will- to do as they please, as they see fit.

    Please, try to look past the confines of a religion. Question things, ask.. WHY?

    Hope all is well Keri. Take care.

    • I can say this, my faith is solid. I don’t give a crap if we were special made or evolved… it doesn’t matter! If aliens beam big-foot down on the front lawn and say “here’s your missing link”-I’ll say WOW cool method GOD… The start does NOT matter; it’s the finish that matters. SO WHAT if there are aliens, whoop-tee-doo! What business is it of yours/ours?
      And If they are demonic, whoop-tee-doo,…! We were told all that we needed to know with the Bible.NOT…. all there “is” to know. To anyone…. that says they “KNOW” anything about this universe’s contents in regards to other possible creatures therein, “please play the lottery for me”….

      Bishop Usher’s sloppy attempt to “date” the genesis/Biblical time line was a joke. Further more, GOD said let us make “Adam” in our image. Not man or mankind… Adam is what is properly translated. “Adam” was a special type. after the fall, who knows what ramifications came about — spiritual, genetic or otherwise… I used to listen to Dr Gene Scott and one thing he taught very well was that there are a LOT of mysteries we do NOT know the answer to!! What you DO need to KNOW and “actively Faith” in is — that Christ cleaned up the mess for us! We are saved by grace not by works deeds or whatever we claim to think we know…. Usually the one that says they know the most, knows the least. What I know and all I need to know is GOD is in control and HE sent Christ to clean up a big big mess that Satan injected into the equation.

      For sending Christ to redeem my soul in a way that I never could;Thank you Heavenly FATHER; what ever you are, where ever you are. From the bottom of my sin stained heart. Thank you.
      “A”

      Listen up sheeple…. get your focus right. the focus is what Christ did for us and why.

      Unless you can translate the original source materials from our Bibles books you’re smart guessing at best..stop arguing stop presuming stop “assuming” ;) .(that goes for you punk-ass atheists too- to those that are in the Christian/GOD hater group– F.O.!)

      Christ+grace=our salvation.
      Don’t worry about the rest, those that are His will hear His call and He knows who’s are His- the details are an interesting and great pursuit
      “— for those that are TRUE scholars—” , but often a distraction nonetheless.
      Focus….! B/C miss by an inch is still a miss. Focus…!

      the focus is what Christ did for us and why

      Max…

      PS
      Alex… Dude… you make me laugh. Have you ever even read the Bible??! Have you bothered to do “any” research own your own?-(true research) You sound like like one of the morons that rant against Atlantis having never even read Plato’s account — you can’t spell, you clearly want to insult believers, I’d be willing to bet you my IQ is 5+ points over yours and who are you to presume to know what aliens would or would not want from us? You can’t even spell :).
      I know retired N.A.S.A engineers (two) that believe in GOD…! Atheists such as yourself are a humorous sadness… I pity you. Go back to school “mate”…. Study the subject “for real”. Actually study this time. You may be shocked.
      If you are not a scholarly type then get the viewpoints of someone that “was” an atheist – IS- very smart and find out “why” they now believe. Buy a book on it, there are many. Be smart even, if it’s by proxy through another, after all, if you’re wrong… it YOUR ass!! ‘Don’t let people/Christians or otherwise that didn’t/still don’t understand- mess “you” up!

      There IS a GOD… whatever HE is Wherever HE is.-
      “HE IS.” a clock does NOT make itself.

      Do your own homework. It’s your ass that’s on the line.

      on to the next… :) bye… & Good luck.. (go to TPB and get Dr Scotts stuff for example…)

      Max

      • I am ENLIGHTENED… thank you, because Heaven knows I sure wouldn’t want to be praying to the wrong piece of wood.

        I do believe in GOD, just not the bible. As you stated, a clock didn’t make itself. The Bible is written by men and as we all know, men are very corrupt creatures. For this FACT alone I cannot put all my faith into the Bible, but God is self evident, you don’t need someone to teach you that there is a God.

        But don’t go getting on your moral high-horse because you haven’t had nearly enough power to even begin to fathom the kind of corruption it can wrought. Don’t think you’re impervious to such fact if the opportunity were to present itself.

        The the only thing I’m trying to say here is… Our survival is at stake and I’m just wanting a few more people in this ignorance-filled World to open their eyes and try to piece together all the facts that are staring them in the face. Facts that all lead to a common conclusion, that our survival might be at stake.

        If we wished to make any species of animal on this Earth extinct, we could- do you think God would stop us? We already have made creatures extinct. Do you think we’re any exception to the rule? Are we not barely above our ape brothers? Free-will is free-will whether it exists in the heart of benevolence or malevolence.

  99. Hi, seeing as most of you replying here are ignorant, arrogant stupid and closed minded i that am of superior intellect will enlighten you.YES supernatural creatures such as what we call GOD,DEVIL, Vampires, zombies, werewolves ghosts etc etc etc, they do exist or have existed at some point but whether or not we come from this “GOD” is true or not the fact is yes he/she/it whatever you want to call god, exists, but they would be classified as “Extra-dimensional” satan and his demons and god and his angels are not from another physical planet or outer space but another plane of etheral existence alltogether, meaning they are extra-dimensional life forms, what we are discussing here has shit to do with god at all, understannd, we are discussing extra-terrestrials here aliens, meaning other life forms in our plane of existence and physical worlds such as ours, that live and breathe and need to eat and later die and use technology such as us supernatural creatures aside we are discussing living biological technology users susch as ourseleves so if god can have a influence in having either created or helped create mankind here on earth than there may be other beings elsewhere.besides you religious zealot jesus loving losers get off your high horse because since god created man in his image and humanity is imperfect flawed and overall unbalanced than so to would god be, understand? so called perfect beings that would create underlings in his or her image would obviously create perfect beings as well, so it is in ourselves that we can see that if someone or something created us in its image than it means that whoever did it is just as dissfunctional as we are, so do yourselves a favor and humanity and stop worshiping those discusting supernatural monsters you call god,devil,jesus etc etc they arent human.me for one i aint on no aliens or gods sides, im on humanitys side, so suck it!

    • Hulk,

      First, if you’d like to continue posting you will do so without name calling, or you will be spammed.

      Second, Instead of believing in something as crazy as vampires, try believing in the truth, Jesus Christ who is the only one who can save you from your sins.

      God Bless

      • Hulk…your eloquence is lacking.
        Yes, God created ALL…including your ‘alien life forms’. May I suggest that man was created perfectly in God’s image.. yes he was. Until Lucifer, who by the way was created by God, challenged God’s authority. The same lucifer/serpent who wanted to destroy God’s creation/man by corrupting eve/adam (yes both) in the garden. That is where ‘evil’ started for mankind. btw..vampire lore originated from Canaan’s rituals of sacrificing babies and eating their flesh and drinking blood. cannibalism (word form comes from Canaan) An abomination to God, who destroyed Canaan/babylon and confused their tongue/language=babble. Deception is the name of game via lucifer. Walk the narrow path with Jesus Christ, friend :)

  100. I consider myself over-all agnostic though I do lean towards the belief in a supreme being, one that created the origin of everything, but since I don’t know this to be fact I must remain agnostic.

    I don’t understand how anybody can take a stance with 100% certainty when they really don’t know. Once you say this is truth, this is what I believe, you then shut out all other possibilities because you’ve already found “truth” – but what if you’re wrong?

    I couldn’t imagine a just and fair God condemning someone to eternal damnation for simply doubting. For simply just trying to understand and for not just believing what he or she was told to believe. It’s like saying… “How dare you question me?”

    The only solace in life is knowing that one day it’ll end. One day it’ll be all over. In death we find mercy. I can only hope it’ll lead to a better place.

      • Putyhwh1st.

        Shalom.

        Your view is made by a cult, and is not Messianic according to Brit Hadasha, called the New Testament.

        Matthew 25:41
        “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

  101. He is very real. Since you are not convinced one way or the other 100%…scripture say…Jeremiah 29:13‘You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. 14‘I will be found by you,’ declares the LORD, ‘and I will restore your fortunes and will gather you from all the nations and from all the places where I have driven you,’ declares the LORD, ‘and I will bring you back to the place from where I sent you into exile.’

    Try it. what harm will it do. I promise if you seek him believing that He will give you the truth and seek Him with every fiber in your being for the truth He WILL show you. What will it hurt to give this a shot? I pray you do as time is short where some will be “caught up to God and His throne” and you do not want to be left behind…

    Try it..seek Him and He will give you the answer if He is real if you seek him in earnest. That is exactly what I did almost 2 years ago and guess what HE SHOWED UP.

    • Who do you assume I haven’t already? I come from a very religious background, but just like every good sherlock holmes story, there is a logical explanation for everything.

      Our existence is no exception. Knowledge and the technological power it breeds is what rules, and what will continue to rule until the end of time, if it ever ends.

      • Mike,

        You have questions of our existence, yet correct me if I’m wrong, do you believe in Christ? Have you searched for him with all your heart?

        Regarding our existence: Acts 17:28 ‘For in him we live and move and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.’

        Job 12:10 In his hand is the life of every creature and the breath of all mankind.

        Do you understand how beautiful God is? How amazing?

        Search him with all your heart.

    • If God didn’t want anyone to question him, why’d he give us free will? If everybody believed the same thing, the same way, wouldn’t it be pretty bland?

      Yen, and yang – one couldn’t exist without the other.

      • Mike…. you have mentioned the Chinese philosophy yin- yang ? this ancient philosophy can not be aplied to GOD and his creation { you and me }. At the root of this deceptive, unbalanced philosophy lies Satan ! Colossians 2 :8….. Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit ,after the traditions of men ,after the rudiments of the world ,and not after Christ .Have faith Mike !..,with thanks and praise to our saveior JESUS…………….. we win.

  102. Yes, He did give us free will. I did not come from a very religious background but was taught about Jesus. I never really gave that a second thought. What I do not now is that there is a huge different between being “religious” and “knowing Christ” in a personal way. I have been both. Once I truly sought him as he says we can to learn the truth…I found it. Forgive me for assuming anything as I did not really mean it to come across that way. He has delivered me from the depths of my own downfall.

  103. well..lots of typos above…what I meant to say is “What I do know now is that there is a huge difference between being “religious” and “knowing Christ”

  104. Lucifer (serpent) is the prince of the air. So named by God. So even though he was cast out of the 3rd heaven, he may reside in the 2nd or 1st heaven (earthly).

    GOD (V.O.)
    But firstborn of the angels was you,
    Lucifer. The brightest,wisest and
    made from the finest gold. The
    workmanship of your pipes and sockets
    was prepared in you the day I created
    you.

    We SEE LUCIFER’S golden serpent head, six helicopter-style wings, and hundreds
    of electric-type bulbs covering his perfection, giving him a bright appearance.
    With these lamps, he generates the color red in the rainbow over God’s throne.

    GOD (V.O.)
    The Red Dragon, in whose image the
    serpent was made.

    He’s also covered with precious gemstones and in the center of his body near
    his chest is an oval-shaped looking monitor.

    GOD (V.O.)
    Truly, you are the Prince of the Air.
    Of the five cherubim created to carry
    my throne, I placed you at the top.

  105. addendum to above comment: so, if sons of God (angels) took daughters of man as wives, then the cursed seed/offspring would contain the ‘evil’ seed. Thus, these damned men and women who contain the ‘fallen/lucifer seed’ or demon seed. Now keeping in mind that we DO know that angels can take ANY form (including light), then why can’t these demon men who contain more ‘angel’ DNA be able to change forms too? Also, these men with the lucifer DNA are contained here to earth or the 1st heaven, yet; the fallen angels who possess 100% angel DNA inhabit the ‘air’ or 2nd heaven. In conclusion, the earthly mixed ‘evil’ DNA men are visible to us on earth, but the fallen angles in the 2nd heaven are NOT visible to us.

  106. i said i would not come back to this topic or this site but i consider this a quick drive by as some of the things ive read since my last post seem shocking and my fears for all the super religeous on here who believe they were touched by jesus, im happy for you that something supernatural happened to get you some of you on the striaght and narrow.

    I myself life Mike is from a pretty super religeous greek orthodox background and i have been since very young a church go-er and know all the books inside and out….i also know our neighbouring religeous books, the muslims, jews, protestants and even pegans. So my reading level on the religeous subject is pretty full but on with my point before i once again vanish so i can focus on more complex depths of what we are really doing here and why……

    my point is simple and its something ive said before but seems to be ignored or left unanswered……

    Christians……how old is our religeon? the best part of 2000 years according to the death of christ which sent an influx of belief to the masses? Lets see how many of you actually know real history instead of hiding behinda religeon which with all due respect is relatively a new hit single on the radio when compared with how many other hits were played before it. My meaning is even simpler……wouldnt everyone on this forum who swears that jesus has touched them and spun them around to do good instead or evil step off for a minute and pretend to look through their real eyes instead of a toilet role tube and ask this question…

    one question which no real man or woman (no matter how deep their faith) can answer……..

    If you are so sure of jesus and the kids on the block testament…..that he existed and all our new found facts over the last 2000 years over ride the rest of the planets 10,000 years of known and recorded history of civilizations. Then what about the religeons that man believed before us? They believed in something too, quite strongly i might add and even so pushed to the brink of so much fear that they even use to offer human sacrifice. Why? Im pretty sure most of those people at the time would say they were touched also by some sort of messiah and turned their life around for the better. Much like an E-pill does when it comvines someone they are witnessing elephants fly.

    My point is how can the christian demand he is correct when so many have existed and claimed the same thing before him? Claimed the same thing under a different title.

    My friends, we all need to believe in something. Its what keeps us sane….something to look forward to and gives us hope when times are hard. It is in all its glory a power that drives man. A construct of words formed to create an energy which warms the hearts of men and drives them to their goals good and unfortunately bad.

    You see what is happening here is our religeons of today are being covered by thick clouds and this attempt causes our eyes to become hazey and depictions become uncertain and writing become confusing when read. There is a a correct place to put our faiths, it is in god our creator, but as far as the known truth is concerned the words christianity as well as all the other titles….its one division of the same thing……to keep us divided, to keep us weak for when our real test arrives. If we cant stand united it wont matter what god you believe in because it wont be this entity that saves us.

    I am asking you to think outside the box just for a minute and hopefully discover that 1 + 1 does indeed equal 2 and not something else.

    godspeed to all

    • Here is what has turned me off from Christianity, really. I don’t mean to stereotype anyone here, please take note that I am simply “generally speaking” here. Okay?

      In regards to America, because this is where I live. Most christians here don’t know the first thing about spirituality. They’re extremely hypocritical ignorant sheeple who believe just as much of what they see on CNN as what their mother and father taught them about their christian-based religion when growing up, without ever questioning anything for themselves. They’re extremely materialistic, driving nice new cars, living in nice houses, worrying about their bank accounts and financial business more than anything else, decadent and hypocritical. They are only christians either consciously or subconsciously because that is what is predominately “socially acceptable” and you are regarded as a “better, or good” citizen if you attend a church. Secondly, everybody wants to go to heaven, right? I mean you’d have to be STUPID to not want to go to heaven? But don’t think for a second that just because you attend a church that you know the truth or that you’re doing something good and what’s “right”. You’re only doing what you’ve been programmed to do, and you are either consciously or subconsciously a good little puppet letting the coercion of what is “socially acceptable” pull your strings.

      How many mayors of any city in America are openly proclaiming that they’re practicing Satanists from the church Anton Levay started? I would be willing to guess…. ZERO. BUT I’m sure there are plenty who openly claim to be practicing some “christian-based” religion in its hundreds of spin-offs which exist today, all stemming from Catholicism in one manner or another. Protestansts, you would not exist if not for the Catholic’s so stop bad-mouthing them during your Sunday sermons.

      So, continue to drive your mercedes, bmw, cadillac, and continue to tell yourself that you’re an “out-standing” member of society. Continue to put value in the material World, which is an illusion. Continue to pretend that “you’re the good guy”, and “good guys go to heaven, right?”

      It makes me sick.

      • I just want to reiterate that I DO NOT mean to stereotype anyone here as I am well sure the person who I describe above would probably never visit a blog/site like this. The only ones here are more than likely ones which are either truly seeking truth, or actually believe in what they’re saying and try to un-hypocritically live by the laws and rules in which they believe.

        In addition to what I stated above. Most people like this worship authority as well, in whatever form it may come.

        I consider myself a libertarian. I would like to say that I’m an anarchist but the fact that we’re all just one big economic collapse away from reverting to the behavioral traits of our ape brethren I have to concede that some sort of law and order should exist, though extremely minimalistic.

    • Kerikhaos,

      You asked: Then what about the religeons that man believed before us?

      My comment: The Bible is clear. All who do not believe in Christ will not be saved. That is the most important thing Jesus tells us. You can choose to study your head of, but unless you believe in Christ, the Bible says where you’ll go.

      John 1:1-51 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. …

      Romans 2:6-8 He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury.

  107. we need to believe in more than “something” to be able to stand before the Lord. We need to believe in Jesus Christ. I pray for all those that doubt that you seek “Him”…He will reveal Himself to you if you seek in earnest. If you don’t then pray this prayer from Luke 21:36. It is soon to be upon us. There is going to be some “caught up to the throne of God soon”…not all Christians only the ones that are living like the Lord says to live and are watching and praying. Yes the one writer above is right, so many are “playing church” and the Lord knows who those are. EVERYONE needs to be praying NOW. Come the first of February if you are still here, you will know why you need to be praying Luke 21:36…as by then it is too late.

  108. its pretty sad to see what some of these religeons have done to some of the weaker minded people because im hearing the same sentances over and over again – that jesus will save us as only he is our savious because the bible says so. Its pretty clear that some of the bible pushers in this thread have actually taken this one belief, turned it into a sales pitch to bring more people on board and somewhere in the middle lost track and actually believe what it is they are selling on to others.

    If someones answer to my question previously was “the bible is clear” its simply the same walk around answers the american goverments are doing when they like to fob off the public from the real answer. Just be honest and say….”i cant answer all those questions because quite frankly there is nothing in the bible which explains why people before christianity were living perfectly well without jesus with their own beliefs” Why cant someone just say that?

    The bible is man written, and to make matters worse it has been altered one million times through the ages and sevoured itself to different variations. Christianity has 3 known teams, the orthodox, the roman catholic and the church of england protestants as well – sorry if i have left out a few………surely this is proof that the words of some man on earth with a gift for novel writing is fact enough to raise some kind of doubt.

    My real thoughts on this is fear. Everyone who hides behind their faiths are in fact afraid of what might be the real reality of things. At this far gone its questionable. Our state of mind where people have no possibility of thinking for one moment if it were possible they have their faith confused or misunderstood, people who continue to force themselves to believe in jesus christ and everything else that has been hammered into their heads by their society of families its proof enough to me that brain washing in fact is very real,

    the sad truth is the bible did not come from god nor jesus. The bible was wriiten by a guy who believed in various happenings and divine interventions. But i ask you this……if i stepped up today and claimed that jesus spoke to me to write the segment of the bible with its missing chapters and i too disappeared on a mountain for 40 years and came back with a new set of stone sribblings….how many here would bow to that or how many would have me locked up being a class A mental case. Whats the difference then between my and the first guy writing a holy book…..

    once you all understand what it is you are all reading every night before bed to feel closer to the divine one just remember this fact……your reading a book which has been touched and modified by many. Stories rearranged, stories modified and left out to get the perfect brain washer of all time…..its the same with the tora and the quran…..man made books are not divine, and they certainly will not get you to any gates of heaven because you attend church or claim you believe. We will be measured by the amount of good you do in this life and worship is not part of the equation. An evil man can worship and ask for forgiveness every day for an innocent life he takes away. Jesus forgives him……of course he does that is why we continue to do evil……a good man today is not easy to come by…..but this man would possess all the qualities of a so called character in a book written to provide example by leadership in the text known as the bible, We can all be christs and do good on this planet – will i burned in hell because my faith is not as hard coded in like everyone in here who has taken the words of the book literately and not seen the meaning behind the words.

    The bible is a passage to lead by example and not to take it literately. A real miracle is to help an old person cross the road where you can see from a far they need your help. Miracles are to do what we can for the people who need us even if it means taking 5 minutes a day out of our busy lives…..and well if i am to go to hell afterwards then i welcome it – because i know when i was alive i did good, and no religeon can call it otherwise. Under gods eyes i know he would see me do right while im alive as best i can.

    What ive written isnt to sell anything or convince anyone of alternate realities of religeon……if your minds have shrunk down to just simply ” jesus christ jesus christ etc etc” it saddens me to know that the mind can truly fall into a state of brainwash that would only mean when the time comes to rise up and stand united. Most of us will be too busy looking under the bed hoping jesus is there to carry us to warm sunny heaven.

    When some of you finally wake up, i just hope it will because the enlightenment reaches your fears before its too late.

    Bottom line……enlightenment is not free and comes at a price……sometimes i think to myself maybe being ignorant like most people today would leave me better off than being someone knows that things are not as simple as they seem.

    I mean no offence to anyone here…..your beliefs are yours and yours alone…..just think about some of the things ive said because if you truly have no fear you would such questions……

    • Kerikhaos,

      You said: Its pretty clear that some of the bible pushers in this thread have actually taken this one belief, turned it into a sales pitch to bring more people on board and somewhere in the middle lost track and actually believe what it is they are selling on to others.

      My comment: You are what the Bible calls a scoffer, and says many like you will come in the last days.

      2 Peter 3:3-4 Knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.”

      You are here to mock the Word of God, and spread doubt into people’s mind, about an “unknown” truth, and who knows if we are ever going to be right.

      I tell you that Jesus Christ is the right way. I have been in the presence of Christ, and has felt the immense-nothing can compare love he feels for me.

      And I’m warning you, that your words will come back to bite you. There is no in between. Either you beiieve in Jesus, or you don’t.

      Acts 13:41 “‘Look, you scoffers, be astounded and perish; for I am doing a work in your days, a work that you will not believe, even if one tells it to you.’”

      2 Peter 3:2-3 That you should remember the predictions of the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior through your apostles, knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires.

      Matthew 24:37-39 For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

    • Kerikhaos,

      You make a lot of statements without any evidence. What evidence is there that the bible has been doctored? There are over 5,000 manuscripts that are in complete agreement with each other. This is the basis of the Textus Receptus. Yes there are some 250 manuscripts that do show evidence of tampering, including the text used in the NIV, the NASB, the CEV, etc., but the Majority text (TR) is pretty much unanimous.

      Even the tampered text does not vary in the important areas, generally, though I would not use the bibles that are based on it.

      Archeology is constantly finding evidence that confirms the bible. Just recently they found the pool of Siloam, after the “scholars” thought it was a myth.

      The truth is, Kerikhaos, that you don’t want the bible to be true.

      It is true and one day you will stand before Jesus Christ the Righteous, as your judge. AS it stands right now, He will throw you in the lake of Fire!

      As for your statements that people were “just fine” before Jesus Christ came along, I have to say that “No they weren’t.” All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. This means you, and them, and me.

      The only way that any person will ever spend eternity with God is because of the sacrifice Jesus made on the cross. This goes for those who lived before He was born just as much as those born later.

      People of faith, before Christ came, were saved by putting their trust in God, that He would provide a remedy for their sin. The only “bible” that Adam and Eve had was God’s verbal promise that “the seed of woman would crush the serpent’s head”. That was all they had to believe to be saved. Then Jesus came and crushed the serpent’s head on the cross.

      Essentially then, what Christians believe today goes right back to the promise God made to the very first man and woman. Yes God has elaborated on it a bit, but at it’s root it is the same simple faith.

      • Ephisians contradicts what you say.

        Ephisians 2:8

        “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:”

        We are only saved by the grace of God, and since we’re all sinners, God chooses his flock.

        Now, this aside. What you’re saying doesn’t change the fact that the bible was written by MAN. That is 100% undeniable FACT. As Keri has previously mentioned, if a man were to write something today and say that he was inspired by God and that people should take heed to those words it would be ignored and he would be labeled as a looney. Why, then, do you believe a man from 2 thousand years ago that his words were inspired by God? Does it being antiquated add to it’s authenticity? I don’t understand the logic here. Does that fact that’s it’s mass-produced and millions, if not billions of people have a copy of it add to its authenticity?

        I knew a man who learned Hebrew just so he could read the ORIGINAL bible in it’s entirety. The difference between Hebrew and English is vast. Many words don’t translate back and forth very smoothly. I thought that was very noble of someone to actually try and read the original version of the bible. This man did not belong to any religion but he was his own theologian, deciphering the bible to himself and deriving his own meanings from reading the original Hebrew copy. He showed me the many fallacies in an English KJV between the Hebrew original and they were vast.

        I’m not trying to be a “scoffer” here, I’m simply explaining the facts. Believing the Bible is the word of God when it was written by men is in itself looney.

        Sometimes I have to wonder if this philosophy just may be true.

        “Nothing is true, anything is permissible.”

        For this is the philosophy of those who are truly in control of our planet and lives.

        Or… Try this one on for size.

        There is no god but man.

        Man has the right to live by his own law- to live in the way that he wills: to work as he will: to play as he will: to rest as he will: to die when and how he will.

        Man has the right to eat what he will: to drink what he will: to dwell where he will: to move as he will on the face of the earth.

        Man has the right to think what he will: to speak what he will: to write what he will: to draw, paint, carve, etch, mold, build as he will: to dress as he will

        Man has the right to love as he will.

        Man has the right to kill those who thwart these rights.

        -The Equinox: A Journal of Scientific Illumination, 1922 (edited by Aleister Crowley)

  109. You won’t be saying this come the end of January…I am going to tell you now, I do know that if you do not believe in the Jesus Christ of the “bible”…come the last day of January, you will wish you had, as you will be left behind. Scoff as much as you want but you will be wishing that you had not come then if the Holy Spirit cannot convince you otherwise between now and then to pray Luke 21;36. You see…the Bible is written by man but is ispired by the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit has revealed many things to me in the last 5 weeks. Time is short. You WILL realize that the Bible is true come the end of January one way or the other. You will either have prayed sincerely and fervently that scripture and be “caught up to the throne of God” or you will be left. He does give us free will and I pray you will see Him.

    • Hi Deb…. I have just read your story and I admire your courage and faith ! GOD bless you ! , I also beleive we are still to keep all the ten comandments , may I ask how you keap or what is it you do on the sabath ,I know we are suposed to gather with other followers of JESUS, but i dont know any ,what about this bread we must eat etc You sound realy sure about come end of jan ,may I ask your reasons,you did mentioned this in your story, but if you could elabourate as I dont understand anything about this “rapture” I am of the understanding this is to take place after much more dramatic events ,and not before we followers of JESUS are to be persecuted ,hense I have just orderd seven JESUS afiliated tee shirts……………..

      • Read my post on what is going to happen…pray please that the Lord will speak to you and let you know if this is truth, He does say He will give the truth to those that earnestly seek Him. Try it…see what He does..He will tell you.

  110. Well…here is what the Lord has spoken to me about keeping the Sabbath. He has said do not buy or sell or cause anyone else to buy or sell on the Saturday Sabbath, rest, read my word, help others, do not clean house or do unnecessary work that wait till another day. He does not have me keeping a strict regimene that is not to be deviated from. I am learning all the ins/outs on this. He does allow me to go to my grandsons ballgames, and on occassion I have asked Him can I stop and get my elderly neighbor I feed everyday something to eat at a “drive thru” as I did not have any food prepared in between ballgames one Saturday and He allowed me that day to “buy” something. He knows I do not make a habit of doing this at all…and told me specifically for that day it was fine. I think it was because it was not for myself but for my elder neighbor and was helping her. And, believe it or not, I do not have anybody else I can fellow ship with on Saturdays as none of my Christian friends believe like I do on this. I have two sister that live away and we all have been lead to keep the Saturday Sabbath so we study together by phone and email. Works out great as we 3 have the same beliefs and we are not 7th day Adventist. We are strictly trying to follow what the 10 commandments say.

    Now, as far as the rapture…it is odd how I came to believe in one. I was one of those that could not find one anywhere in scripture and thought that Luke 21:36 where it teaches we are to pray to escape all these things just meant for “protection”. So, I have been buying canned food and bottles water like MAD:-) to share with anyone the Lord sent my way and spend/spent every extra money I had on preparing for the final 3.5 years I knew was coming since He gave me those words on March 5th. So…literally, I have been buying and buying ever since He told me in March we were in the final 7 years. And, I knew it had to be close to the midpoint with all the things happening around the world and I knew/thought that His final return at the end of the 7 years was on a Sabbath year which is 2016 so I KNEW the midpoing was in all probability next Sprig. well…so much has happened but without being too long winded:-)…He told me on September 26th as I studied Revelation 12 ( it has been killing me to figure it out and I knew the “woman” was the church) well that was when I started asking God did this mean this or did this mean that, etc…and He told me by the movements in my stomach ( like he moves when the answer is yes, or “you got it”…) that the Woman gives birth to the “Manchild”…the Man is the 144,000 ( not sure if that is literal) and they are not Jewish virgin men…they are believers in Christ that are seeking and have “come out of spiritual Babylon” and are now “Jews by adoption into the spiritual family of Jesus” and then He said the “child” is the overcomers of the 7 churches..well the overcomeres except maybe one or two of the overcomers as one is promised “manna” which is the wilderness/food they are fed when they flee. then the “woman” flees to the wilderness which is the lukewarm Christians that will have to go thru the tribulation and be tested and tried. …so after a few weeks of that information/revelation He gave me as I studying I asked Him if the “timing” of the rapture within the final 7 years was shown in scriputre and He said yes! So..that led me to Daniel 12…and it talks about the 1290 days and 1335 days and as I studied and asked questions He answered me and told me that the woman flees at the abomination ( which scripture in Matthew/Luke/Mark clearly tell people to flee when they see it…but then He told me that the 1290 days is of course when the abomination is “set up”..I don’t know all the details on this but I am getting ready to delve into that ….then He said the 1335 days is the “time of the rapture” which is before the 1260 day abomination. Whew! so…then He gave me the words/information that the abomination is on 4/10/12 and counting back the 75 days ( the time between 1335 days and 1260 days) you come ot January 25th, 2012. That is the date of the rapture. Beleive me this is a HUGE burden. All these months I have been passing out flyers anyway warning people time is short, having NO idea just how soon a “rapture” was going to be. I was just praying to be protected int he “wilderness” for the final 1260 days. I am now shouting and passing out cards for everyone to pray that they will be worthy to escape all these things to come…I don’t care if they thnk I am a nut. I have lost many family members during this time that have deemed me “crazy”, can’t see my grandkids ( my daughter in law thinks I am nuts and I told my son that the Lord says to put your wife before your momma…I will survive this and it is ok. So this has been hard, but I choose JESUS CHRIST over anyone/anything. After the truths He told me about who abused my son, I will never doubt what He is telling me now. Call me crazy do whatever you want, I will stand firm, the Holy Spirit did in a mighty powerful way give me these dates, truths and time is short. I have been redeemed from the pits of Hell…as that is where I was going even though I hung on all those years, I did not live the life He wanted me to live. I am so grateful for his saving grace and never giving up on me.

    • Thank you for sharing that. I don’t think you’re crazy at all, in fact I find it immensely interesting. I don’t know what to think, to be honest. I can only hope that you’re right because lord knows I want to escape this planet desperately though I doubt I’d be raptured for my own selfish reasons, haha.

      It’s a shame that some of your family has alienated you for simply believing in what you feel is right. That saddens me that people are so intolerable, even of their own family members.

      I applaud you for your courage to express what you know. Like I said, I hope you’re right.

      • You will be raptured, if you are seeking the Lord and doing your very best every day to be obedient to Him. We all sin…He does say no one will be sinless…only Jesus. so, don’t beat yourself up just pray and seek His face and you will be raptured. Faith, do not give up….that is all that I had for years..the faith of a mustard seed, but it got me through. So..seek the Lord daily and pray Luke 21:36. You will be counted worthy if you do these things. Rebuke satan, I have to do it all day long!!! LOLOL! literally..He will try to defeat you. LAUGH in his face. Tell him to flee in the name of Jesus. …I am so ready..in more ways than one. I WAS weary. but He is giving me strenght. Read in Revelation the letter to the church of Philadelphia….He knows we are barely hanging on, DO NOT GIVE UP!!! feel free to email me anytime for encouragement….debbie@winningimages.net, I will be more than happy to pray for you and encourage you to hang on HE is coming for us soon!!

      • Deb,

        Honestly i’m a little leary about what you claim to be an exact date of the rapture.

        The Bible says in Matthew 24:36 “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

        I have to ask how is it that you can know, when Jesus Our Messiah doesn’t? It’s clear in the verse, that only the Father does.

      • Scripture says no one knows the day or the hours of the day Jesus returns at the end of the final 7 years…when Jesus returns after the “elect” after the tribulation. I questioned the Lord on that as well and He did say that is when He is talking about in this scripture. I have not other explanation.

  111. Well..above I meant that the 75 days from 4/10/2013 is January 25th 2013…as the timing of the rapture..I put abouve January 25, 2012

  112. I guess the only thing i can say is christianity has truly blind sided some people and one fact increased the level of ignorance…..people quote exact phrases in the bible and believe jesus will deliver. I can tell you this for free scoffer in your eyes or not…..

    come january most of you will be sitting at home waiting and wondering what just happened when that day comes and goes. Will you then re consider the bibles writings? No course you wont you will just convince yourself that christians misread something or misunderstood it….and the correct calculation is really X-X-X date…..your narrow minded views on just one story tells quite alot of things about someone. How can someone know the difference between divine intervention or some demonic imposter pretending to be god or jesus. The human can neverr know the difference between the 2….just believe that he does and will not be shaken by any evidence that says the opposite. People killed their whole families in the name of jesus christ……people in the last 2000 have killed innocent people from various religeons in the name of jesus christ…….

    I will tell you a truth that either makes sense to most of you or doesnt……i dont pretty much care how most people live their lives full out with religeon – jumping and dancing crying the name jesus in church while a reverend break dances the words jesus christ to a set of 4 x 4s or if a priest drssed up in a dress and gold artifacts and jewellery serving communian in a diamond crusted goblet in the name of jesus…..ive lived all of that and even been subject to a presence which to this day is still not clear to me……..but my truth is this……..a god or a son of god that measures us for what we believe in instead of how we live our lives good or evil is a fraud and i will tell you why.

    We were all made equal, in the eyes of god. We were designed to be beautiful creatures who would care for one another and progress through a way of life where we would be united as one. Instead we follow various beliefs (which if you know your religeons) you would by now know they are all the same stories with just different character names even from the very egyptian days. Christianity -fact – is a derivative of the original pegan religeon rituals and modified to what we know to be christianity.

    You sure you are all proud to be called christians? What good have brought on this world apart from preaching and repeating over and over again the words from the bible. What good other than that have you done. Have you made this world a better place to live in? Have you donated christian moneys to poorer people who have different beliefs. Have you even gone out of your way and left the comfort of the christian ring to help anything or anyone who didnt share the words “jesus” in ever second sentance?

    Im speaking in anger because most of us dont understand whats going on here.I know most of you are black listing me as a possessed demon, a condemned soul and possible lucifer himself in the the form of a man with nothing better to do than to waste my time in a narrow minded thread. I couldnt really care non the less. My life is focused on being a good person, and doing what i can when i can for others when they need it…..If this is not enough to gain passage to whatever positive awaits then i will gladly accept the alternative because i would know in my heart the divine one has let me down, and most of the human race who deserved better. Believeing in him or not should not affect the outcome of who should be saved or not.

    Listen to this crap……i mean innocent babies that are not born into christianity for instance would perish because they do not believe in jesus christ. If that and much more is even half true then I would choose not to live knowing he is responsible for that. Where im from he is not better than a low life mass murderer who should be put down liek the many who take away innocent lives every day in this corrupt world.

    After what ive seen and gone through its simple……your life and what you do in it is what is measured if there is anyone watching. I will welcome death knowing it would be true that so many deaths would be lost because of a single belief. But i know it wont and come january you will see also. But i would like to see the stories in a couple of months you will injest into yourselves to begin waiting for another so called date….

    i for see sayings like…..jesus said to me it will in June 14th because of this this and this. or i felt a presence and it made my hand write down september the 12th…….the jews were wrong in 2000 and the christians who have borrowed the dates of the mayan calendar will be wrong too…..

    but you wont need to keep on in here……i hope everyone at least with their beliefs and strong focus for jesus and nothing else allows your lives to still remain good for the right reasons…..as that is what matters….

    signing off from here as i think im falling on deaf ears most of the time and im not attacking people in here….but there is a huge difference of a repeater and someone who has truly awoken….

    good luck in january

    • You are right about one thing kerikhaos. God will judge the lost on what they have done. All you have to do is sin one time, and you don’t get in!

      The wages of sin is death. You don’t get out of death by doing something good. The problem is you weren’t good all the time!

      50% +1 isn’t good enough. You have to be perfect 100% of the time.

      If not, then you need a Saviour!

    • I think you are the one we truly need to wish luck…better yet, pray for. Whatever you do …do not take the mark of the beast ( whatever that is) but without it you will not be able to buy or sell..and if you take it so you can buy food, well it is too late, you have sealed your fate. period. The mark will not take place until after April sometime. Be prepared to take it and live for a short while on earth but to die eternally or prepare to refuse it on earth and live for eternity with the Lord. It will be your choice. I do strongly suggest you pray about this although scripture does say that the unbelieving are not able to see the truth. so….in order for you to even see the truth…you must seek Jesus.

    • Hi Keri ..1st off I have no religeon attend no church or denomination never have, nor do I call myself a Christian as I am not sure what a Christian is in todays world,, and I dont know anybody who is, apart from this website ,I think of myself as a follower of JESUS but its its more like I stumble about behind HIM ,some people say that they have seen HIM and HE has spoke to them , they are very lucky to have all dought removed ,and spend there life with the hope that must have given them ,but GOD has always provided proof that HE IS , the great flood ,Noas Ark must of provided proof for many a generation ,you can still go look at the fossil remains in Turkey .then there is Sodom and Gamora you can go see there ashen remains even pluck a piece of brimstone out from whats left of a vast structure and set fire to it ,being basicly a sulpher nuget it burns real hot,then theres the site of the dead sea crossing where the waters were divided ,with scuba gear you can sea the remains of the egyption chariots encast in sea life etc etc , strangly no one seems interested about these proofs anymore ,the blatant lie of Darwism, fixed that they basicly built there whole case of the missing link on a skull and jaw bone discovery which turned out to have bean disshonestly planted,but to late the books were written and men had their carears rideing on it ,they tell us the evolution of this planet took millions of years ,they have no real proof its all speculation on there part ,anyway what I am trying to say is that if you are tired of all the lies you get fed ask these questions useing whats in front of you { where is the Ark of the Covenent and what did the blood of CHRIST fall upon} know you are probably thinking what weird questions ,but dont you think what is realy odd is that no one includeing the Christians dont seems to care about these two most mystereous events of our recorded history ??????

  113. Deb,

    I’m afraid I think you’ve got it backwards. Those living in the Tribulation will know the exact day Jesus will return. All they have to do is count the days from the Antichrist’s confirming of the covenant.

    Those of us who are still here at the time of the rapture will not know the day nor the hour, but we will see signs before it occurs. The evidence is that both the Psalm 83 war, and the Gog-Magog war will occur first. Even then we will not know the day nor the hour.

    I don’t believe the rapture is imminent. Jesus said there would be signs first. Until those signs occur it is not imminent.

  114. The Lord says that unless he cuts that time short no man will survive…so when He cuts that time short …that is how those living in the tribulation 3.5 years will not know the exact day or hour. 1260 days if the day the woman flees for…but he “cuts it short” He says.

    I don’t expect you to take my word for it but I can tell you now, the Lord has told me this information, He confirmed that it is the day He returns at the end of the tribulation that noone knows the day or hour. I won’t try to convince you. I understand your questioning it..believe me. But He has told me many things lately, and this is one. There will be a rapture at the end of January. If you are seeking and praying Luke 21:36, and living how He says, then you won’t even need to be concerned anyway. You will be out of here!:-)…You will be part of the child of Revelation 12:5!

    • I don’t understand why a just and fair God would comdemn me for taking the “mark of the beast” simply because I don’t want to see my children starve to death. I can tell you though- I WILL NOT watch my children starve. Not in the name of anybody. So if this is really happening, my children better be raptured, if not then I guess my fate will be sealed.

      • Well…the thing is, if you are found “worthy to escape all these things”…and you have young children at home, if you go “up” they go “up” so you won’t be here to take any mark. That is why the Lord says to pray Luke 21:36….and tells people to watch and pray,watch and pray. If you get left, then you were not doing what he commands. so …if you are watching and praying like he says to be found worthy, and living as best you can as the Holy Spirit commands/prompts you to, then you won’t have to worry:-)

  115. Dean……this one is for you…..the questions you have told me to question have already been answered. Human history does not start at 0-AD. Christians who are deep keep ranting on end of days and who will be saved and who will not to the very day they die. In my eyes…..its a waste of life, its a waste because we could be so much more without corruption, without jealousy and war by colour or race. Religeon has inflicted this evil by diving and conquering from the very beginning. Even the most godly people in here i know for fact sin every secong giving thoughts to everyone who doesnt believe their day dream will be burned, killed, tormented and delivered to satan. Their whole lives till their death they bear this plague. My oppinion, they know not life outside of that prison and spend far too long preparing for stories of the future when they are missing the present. They are no better with sin as the ones they burn with their tongues………

    But my direct answer to you is noahs ark and the akc of the covenant have been drawn into physical forms by people who knew how to deliver our true nature from the ancient past in cryptic form. My answer to you with satisfactory evidence was there was never an ark, nor was there a person called noah. Instead during these catastrophic events with flooding and tidal waves 200ft high a project was born. Quite simply project ark was to store the DNA of every living thing on earth male and female (to reproduce afterwards) so when the wipeout came and left the re population of species could start a knew. You the story is, our real god up there is looking down and when things will get out of hand….he will level us to dust again and start things out from the beginning again hoping for better result. This revolution has been going around and around for billions of years and man still hasnt learned how to properly live. This is the most logical explainantion of noahs ark as it explains religeon and science together. You will find that the story of thr ark in turkey – a fake piece of wood placed there dressed up like an antique was finally analyzed in 2010 providing evidence that no wood could survive that many years over weathering and decay. Unless you believe god protected the wood i guess things in my story seem silly…….

    As for the ark that housed the commandments….well a while back a guy claimed he had tracked it down in africa in a small city called axum in ethiopia. Pretty amazing but weak at fact and in the end the single priest gaurding it there refused to let anyone see it as only he had the blessing from god so it wouldnt burn him to ash. Story to mee sounds etchy and almost sounds like a cheap b-movie script. But like many people we believe what we can to continue peddling along to the greater belief that being jesus etc etc etc……..my explaination sounds different and based on more discovered real evidence announced but yet again not clocked on by many……is that the ark of the covenant was a weapon of mass destruction. Even in the bible, mans description of it and its effect of it when in close range of it is best described by us today as being radioactive properties. In the bible, people claimed they lost hair, nails would fall off etc etc…..same symptoms when someone with cancer goes in for chemotherapy. But why take my word for it right? Who am i apart from characters on a screen…..the bible has already been written and these words ignored. But for the reason i am also trying to communicate with people (not to change their beliefs) but to open their eyes a bit more to some real hostorical facts about how the human game is played and that it is much older than christianity. Once you are aware of the presence, the real presence amongst us then you will truly be free of the prison we live in today. So going back the ark being a weapon. It was indeed godly to the people of that time. Could destroy cities within seconds and make armies dissappear in less. Whoever possessed this at the time was truly gods favourites to win the holy war of them. Why do you think hitler was also after it, looking for it in between his 2nd world war. He was fanatical but far from insane. He knew things and thats why germany today sits on the grand chair of europe ready to invade using a less means of aggressiveness. The pwer of loaning money is more deadly that invading and just taking the ruins for yourself. Go read up on it….its Interesting. You want some proof for the nuclear device that held the 10 most important things for a christian not to do while he lived? Ok….look to india, rajasthan to be exact. 3 square miles is em high radiation only that which can been given off by an atomic bomb with the same capacity to which whacked japan in 1945. This also has been dated to approx 8-12,000 years ago. These are facts people so im interested to hear the christian oppinion or any other godly like oppinion that can explain that. God apparently had nuclear technology back then huh? Would explain these missing links we got scattered around the earth dating back thousands of years.

    You wanna hear another one……to add to the 2 questions i was asked before to question…….have you asked yourself about the holy grail? This is an interesting one. Now depending on peoples history in this thread their use to be these group of guys called templars…….pretty built bunch who wore a cross of red on their white outfits. Now while ignorant christians believe till this day that these guys were gods finest elite of soldiers who dids gods….may i say im sorry for how wrong you have all been till reading this post. The crusaders / templars were no more christian than a buddhist. These guys had much bigger ambitions. All that glory they would pillage going from place to place. The riches they would loot. But unfortunately they had to kill women and children to get it. That to me kind of kicks out the whole god and jesus belief when it came to these guys. Then came the day when they discovered the real secret of jesus and how it was staged or fabricated by the so called church to preserve its true darkest secret. Possibly the secret may of been that from the da vincci code that they blackmailed the church for giving them total power they would keep the secret that the holy grail was the continued blood line of jesus himself. Oh that and the fact his and mary kind of settled down and had children right before they took him to cross. Whatever the secret the church handed over to thr templars all controlling religeous power and that power spread and its been spreading ever since. The templars today have a few new names you may of heard of…..the masons (lower level minions to the powers above) and the illuminati (those who have found the light or had it from before). You see that thos religeous wars we are so proud of telling our kids as they grow up were nothing more than blood baths with innocent children of many religeons being slaughtered. Women also. I mean come on……..these guys know what they are doing i mean they are called the illuminati for gods sakes……well an example can be seen in the USA, for those who are american i mean no offence when i use you as an example. When the illuminati took down your twin towers and amazingly managed to pin it on another terrorist just so happening to be sitting on a high oil reserve. I mean it wouldnt of taken a guy with half a brain to see what was going on there….and funny how they didnt film any us troops sucking out the oil from the ground while they were there bombing the wrong places i mean isnt TV so entertaining, i wanted to get my popcorn out trying to figure out how many american soldiers were sent from their country, the same country that dropped their own buildings just so they could get a few more billion in their banks……thats what you dies for folks…..nothing more…..

    anyways i think ive said enough…..just one more thing……for those wiating for judgement day, ethnic cleansing day or independant oppinion day…..when that day comes and goes and were all still here….i would really like to know the excuse you will come up with why we didnt all go out in flames. I means every other religeon thus far has come up with pretty good damn excuses…..will be good to hear some of yours……or will you simply leave or change the faith???? i think thats a better question to the ones david asked me to answer….

    godspeed

    • Dear Keri.

      Shalom.

      You are basically wasting your time, writing a small booklet as a reply. Please write short, and highlight one topic at the time.

  116. ivarfjeld,
    i post complete detailed oppinions on how i see my reality. I expect some will and some will not understand my rambling and that im fine with. I already know im wasting my time but thats not because of the length of my posts its because what i mention is above most peoples capacity to understand. I do not believe if my reply was shorert or longer it would make a difference. If people are interested enough to read things other to that which they believe then why would it matter how long the posts were?

    When i read my passages of research i could be reading posts and convos for days on end but its my choice to sit their and take it all in or at least try to understand what the other person is wriiting.

    In this life you either stay narrow minded and continue to think you know all through the words of religeon or you can begin to think outside the box which in other words means stand up on your own 2 feet and start thinking independantly instead of whats been written by another MAN.

    Again these are just my oppinions from a simpleton which started faith like every other christian but has since managed to become aware of my reality and aware of what things are going on and this is what makes things difficuly, why would i waste my time trying to at least show something to people which could help them wake up…??? If i didnt care somewhat i wouldnt be here to begin with – but its all individual belief at the end of the day adn what people choose is hard to convince otherwise which is why is stated in my last post when this rapture date comes and goes, when everyone who was waiting for it opens their eyes and see NOTHING has happened i want to see the psychological break down that mind which really believed in it will go through to excuse the fact their belief is still real.

    godspeed

  117. The illuminati, knights of templar, masons, Jesuits…they are all real ..evil, people that are Against God and His word …yes, they are all real, yes they did create 911….but what you don’t understand they are from the bloodline that has been against Jesus and His Father for many years. That is what this is all about. It is a religious war, God/Jesus against Evil…Esau and his descendants. and it is getting ready to all come to a close. When you are left behind come the first of February you will know …you are wrong on this. Jesus is real, He is the coming King. Once folks dissappear in a few months ….then watch out. the next 3.5 years…you will wish you had believed. If you seek Jesus now He will make himself known to you. Scripture says if you seek Me with all your heart, You will find Me. If you choose not to do that now, then when things start happening ….remember you were warned. come the middle of April or soon after when it will really heat up, you will have to take the mark of the beast to “buy or sell”…so, I beg you now, Seek Jesus, He will tell you He is real if you want to know bad enough. Then if you seek him in earnest He will answer, then you need to pray Luke 21:36. If you don’t do either of these it will soon be to late. The Lord has revealed some things to me and I am not just shouting empty words. Time is short. He says in scripture, no man knows the day or the hour of my return except the Father…this day or hour He is speaking of is the Final day He returns at the very end of this age, AFTER the last 3.5 years of the great tribulation soon to be upon us. I can tell you now, He has told me when the rapture will be taking place and you don’t have very much longer. Time is short.

  118. debvaughn,

    i can say this much……you have a strict faith (just like many others around the world). Do you truly understand what a strict faith is and its effect on the simple human brain? Now a belieif is something made from stories, legends, ancient books written by man and the faith that echoes it beyond what it really is. Now psychologically the line between someone who has been consumed by faith has very little difference to someone who has been categorized as insane because in his reality its ok to kill whoever gets in their path or inflict damage to whatever possible. Why do we categorise these people as crazy and not religeous people? I mean the muslims terrorise the states and the unighted kingdom all the time with their suicide bombers but if you ask them and their believers they are going to heaven because of their acts….to them this is the word of god and they are doing what they think is what god wants. Just like christians believe what they do….

    im sorry but anyone who is a servant of religeon obviously doesnt pay attention to logic or science because you cant possibly be 100% faithful to a book of god when science has proven so much already that contradicts it….ok ok ok…religieon says science is evil….i hear that every day…..but the truth is religeon is something that has been around long before christianity and its done the same thing throughout the ages…….contribute to the divide and conquer game which has been played for a millenia.

    Of course this is my oppinion, i do believe in god….my interpretations of jesus however is not how most people believe it…..i believe there was a man with that name, and i believe he did good……this person is an example of what being a good human is all about. Give what little you have to others, When struck turn the other cheek and whoever needs help you must provide aid…..this is the jist of what the new testament claims. The interpretations of this man doing miracles was because jesus was either someone who knew about technological aids, or he was not of this earth at all and where he was from, his advanced healing abilities while being used on the simple human were looked upon as the son of god…..it makes perfect sense….if i flew an airplane over jerusalem 0AD i would be a god too no? What do you think people would say when i parked up in a gold jet, thundering noises and lightning special effects…..smoke and everything…..imagine for a sec what the primative man would think to himself when in contact with something like that…..

    christians and all religeous people need to understand something about science…….one cannot exist without the other…..and what has happened over the years is that religeon has disregarded all forms of scientific explaination and based itself all on leap faith fiction which has been happily accepted without question i might add just from people passing on the story. Amazing….why cant people do the same with whats in front of them???? This is why religeon and the psychotic pressure it brings the brain as mentioned before is a fragile category as it means a brain in reality cant distinguish the difference between reality and illusion.

    My question as i keep saying it over and over….is all these people spending loads of money on canned food and digging holes underground (only the americans are doing this by the way). What will you do or say when your dates dont add up to the big show we are all waiting for come february. So far i have heared over 50 dates by various christians who are all predicting the same day of doom, end of days, rapture etc etc……ive heard from december 21 and 22 2012. Ive heard January 1st, January 13th, now February….i mean lets be honest…….its going to keep going isnt it? The rambling will continue until something does happen wether it be 4 weeks after of 4000 years after the original prediction……my original question, what are you the sure religeous parties going to do and say when the sun sets and rises again????

    Will your faiths still be as strong??

  119. yep…It will :-) …but, i am not going to have to say the sun will set and rise again AFTER the rapture…it is just going to get bad. So…when you hear about some folks dissappearing at the end of January…know then, time will be not good and will get worse and worse and worse and worse UNTIL Jesus appears in the clouds and gathers the rest of the “elect” …that came to believe in him during those final years. I won’t try to convince you anymore. I just pray everyday for the Lord to wake people up to the truth. It is up to him to seek you and up to you to receive him. So, when this happens, DON’T take the mark of the beast. I can say I DO NOT know specifically what that is but it will have to do with buying and selling so if they make you take a mark or “something”…to get food, don’t. Good luck to you.

  120. debvaughn,

    you dont have too convince me of the rapture. The problem is we have a different oppinions on the rapture. Apart from the main fact the the human race will come to realise that it was in fact created not by god but by other advanced terrestrial beings playing god and us being the result of the experiment – we we come to realise the real game being played here on earth……

    2 things are going on here…..There are indeed other advanced life forms on this planet, ones which are hostile and getting ready to take us down in the next few years. There are also ones which are aiding us and trying to wake us up while in this looping process of sleep walking. The main reason why this is true is the slow and catastrophical effects of the new world order. Us in Europe have begun to collapse under the european union. The Euro is getting weaker but the plan was promised to strngthen and unite the european countries. Whats happened and what was planned by the illuminati and the controlling parties above……is that it was a plan designed to fail. to 20% of europe which had a decent economy cant possibly be expected to fund money to the remaining 80% who are hungry for cash and a better living environment. The upset was no other created when the germans who have super large cash flows from the looting they did in wwii have managed to create a world war without even fighting. That plan was to economically cripple the european countries other than the England (mason/illuminati hq) and a few other countries while in the process constantly lending money to countries who can no way pay it back. This tactic enables the germans to take a control hold of that country and eventually once that countries goverment completely collapses (greece on the way and so is spain) the germans will fill the positions with their own people and run the country as they wish. In the next 5-6 years the european union will be taken over and governed by one single body. That of our aryan race friends – the germans. Once europe has become united with this bullsh*t they other continents will be targeted next and eventually between 15-25 years time the whole world will be governed by a single head. Whats the punch line? The rapture you all believe in is what will happen when all countries have been crippled or over run by the single governing body which will then follow up on the invasion we only watch play out in the movies. The only negative is humans cant actually win this one.

    How do i know this…….i have collected much over the years. Trying to filter out and make sense of religeous writings, current warfare discussions. historical catastrophies and their patterns. Benefical gain from invasions and motives to why they occur. There are also articles and interviews from very high personell staff who have claimed that the goverment has a big dirty secret. The fact the president of the united states during the 50s signed a deal with the devil which later on turned out to become our death warrants. He signed off that the visitors on this planet could star as long as they hid away from us under ground to conduct their experiments in exchange for advanced technology. This is why you all soo an amazing boost in technology from the 50s till now…..it was a boom of things in the last 50 years. They were allowed to kidnapp people for experments which were on a goverment list of selected people and the deal would be no harm would come to them and they be put back where they were found with no recollection fo what had happened. Thats lasted a few years and then over at dulce things got out of hand. The visitors broke the agreement, they started abducting random numbers of people and in effect killing them completely during processes. Plus our enzymes are absorbed into them as a sort of stimulant or drug for their life energy. So were pretty much cattle to these things and it was us who signed off on it. This will also make sense of the millions of people going missing now. Why wait till the rapture of religeon to see people going missing….whats happening now? Go research how many people are going missing each year you will now believe the number? They cant all be blamed on human trafficing and peadophiles.

    The finisher in my prediction of what the rapture will be is this…….all those people all around the world who all claim they were abducted and left to live have been potentially modified and have had some kind of installation in their brains or spine to allow full remote control when the time comes. What i mean is when the crap hits the fan we will even have humans turn on humans. Were being manipulated, toyed with and led to believe in false legends and hopes when whats really happening is they want this world for themselves and us erased off it.

    Humans have only now shown a tiny significance in the technological world which that is science. We have sunk one foot in its lands and we play that we are all knowing and all that etc. Their are being living next to those stars we look up to every night thousands of years ahead of us and they arent all looking to be friends. The universe is a big space and to think we are alone in all that space is another ignorant perspective from people who have no capacity for understanding its meaning. We are threats to ourselves, why cant it be true there are visitors waiting to take us out all together also?

    I pray for everyone who doesnt understand whats going to happen in the years to come……the sign will be the new world order taking over like a plague. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convince the world he did not exist……and this is what is happening…….

    My prayers are with all the people who will stand up and fight this battle when the time comes – for our survival and our right to live on as humans united……

    godspeed

  121. We do agree on a lot. I too believe that so many people are missing and are abducted by much of our own goverments doings. But what I also believe is they are not just aliens, they are fallen angels/shapeshifters. The Lord did reveal to me that they are very real. But they are of satan. and go back as far as you I am sure believe as well. The mayan calendar…the mayans…all evil and part of the plan from way back. They all though are together with the governments around the world on this. They all came from the bloodline that is agains Jesus. The Lord has revealed so many things to me and believe me I am wide awake to what is going on. But, the Lord also revealed Himself to me, in a big way. and He did tell me there is a rapture in January. The evil behind all this that has been planned thinks they are about ready…and getting ready to sock it to the people around the world. But, the Lord also knows “all” and it is in His timing only and He wins. And yes, it has been since Roosevelt became president that it really started “coming together” ..faster and faster…I agree with you on this timing. But I also know that the Lord NEVER does anything without warning his own as well and He did tell me it is time. and the timing of the rapture. and then give or take appx 3.5 years of the rapture ( no man knows THAT day or hour) He returns for the few that are barely hanging on from what He has brought upon the earth and all the evil.

  122. That is correct. I finally forgave the TWO people that sexually molested my son. I truly forgave them. After many years. Now I pray for them so much that they do repent as I would not want my worst enemy to live eternally anywhere but with the Lord Jesus. So, yes…Jesus will forgive ALL those that ask and seek Him of ANYTHING they have done if they ask Him to be their Lord and then ask Him to forgive them no matter what they have done. No it does not seem fair, but does it seem fair what Jesus did for us. I am so thankful for His saving grace. And I truly pray I see the ones that molested my son in Heaven. Jesus can heal all hurts and I am a living example of that. He has redeemed me not just of my sins but of being able to give Him all my hurts and heal those.

  123. I dissagree entirely.
    I dont believe that someone that is capable of such extreme evil acts such as taking away someone elses life – someone elses innocent life should be forgiven. I dont care less if god or jesus forgives them, This evil should not be allowed to fester and spread. Took a lot of preayer to forgive???……You mean the same words as quoted in the bible ….”turn the other cheek” – you do realise its not the same thing to get whacked in the face and someone killing someones children. Its not normal for someone to go through such pain and take comfort behind a ficticious belief that all is well and everything happens for a reason? That to me a weak hand, a hand that controls the weak minded to obide by a set of rules written in a book, a book written to control the masses so the outrage wont create renegades and vigilantes looking for revenge because the punishment standards in most countries are too low. Someone goes around killing innocent people should be not be forgiven and the very least be put away for life and throw away the key. This person sane or not is bad energy running wild and this has been proven to be caused because many religeous families abuse their children and torture them while growing up…..the same hypacrites who keep quoting jesus to me like an insane person who emulates a broken record that keeps looping round and round repeating the same thing.

    You see this is where I and most religeous jesus followers differ….

    I dont run my life based in a book of words because its the thing to believe in so i can save my own ass when hell on earth arrives. I dont consider even half of the religeous fanatics will be saved either because selection isnt being done because i say the words ” I LOVE JESUS CHRIST”. You will see that your faith is a brain washing virus that corrupts the mind and disrupts your thinking process to believe the impossible.

    In a nutshell worded differently but what you all believe in i can sum up with this….

    1. anyone can be forgiven – murderers, child abuses, rapists etc etc….because in the end a piece of sh*t can still be saved by jesus as he cant determine the difference between satans minions and a man who sheds the light of god. Basically in the end….dont matter how much crap ive done i can still save my name by accepting jesus into my lfe and all will be forgotten. Shame about the families who are left to forever feel the torment and sadness of what has happened to their loved ones.

    2. Even before new borns and other children who have not been able to understand religeon have not had a chance to accept anything are condemned when judgement comes. Is that fair? No doesnt matter because jesus would rather save the lives of what i mention in point 1. so forget the innocent kids who are worth less to him……

    3. Last big point. Christianity in a nutshell is a borrowed story from at least 5 different older religeous stories from before. If some of you have done your homework you will see the christian belief is a modified pegan religeon and just the names of the characters have been changed. Depending on how aware some of you are and how much you have actually read other than the bible new and old testaments you either choose to remain in ignorance or there is real proof that most human brains cant cope with the data and calculate what is really happening.

    Like i said……im not fussed what happens to me because while most await what happens to them after death (float to heaven and live in paradise) im someone who focus’s in the present. Im living my life today and try and live best i can with my family as a good person. If im being judged by not acting crazy with jesus’s name then its fine, no problem….i wouldnt want to hang around with jesus and his crew of murderers etc thats hes forgiven….theres no room for me in a place where i have to share my space with people who have done so wrong. I can forgive to a certain degree…..but not these actions….and i find anyone who can needs to have their faith so strong for them to be brain washed enough its keeping them from breaking down and acknowledging whats really happened. Them losing someone to the hands of a low life……

    Like a said to you before……religeon has brought nothing but war and corruption……what good has it brought through out history apart from poor minded people who life in joy to what will happen to them when they leave this place? Religeon basically translates to “excuse for war” – think about it…..

    • Keri,

      You said: I dont believe that someone that is capable of such extreme evil acts such as taking away someone elses life – someone elses innocent life should be forgiven.

      My Comment: But doesn’t that what makes Christ our King? The sacrifice that he gave for us on the cross to forgive every sin one has ever done, if you accept him. We will never be perfect on Earth, and we need Jesus to save us. It’s a fact, whether you choose to believe it or not.

      Matthew 6:14-15 For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

      Do you get the gravity of the above verse? The seriousness? Because even I have struggled with forgiveness, and still do. And have told people who have sinned against me, I’m sorry. Because the Lord asked me to. And when I did, a weight lifted from me. A weight in my heart. But I don’t think that you’ll get it at all, because to do so would mean you have accepted Christ as your Savior.

      You wrote: anyone can be forgiven – murderers, child abuses, rapists etc etc….because in the end a piece of sh*t can still be saved by jesus as he cant determine the difference between satans minions and a man who sheds the light of god

      My comment: You can sit there and say I’m sorry until your blue in the face. But only Jesus knows what lies in you heart, and only Jesus knows if you mean it or it’s just a facade of lies.

      Luke 16:15 He said to them, “You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but God knows your hearts. What is highly valued among men is detestable in God’s sight.”

      Your comment: Last big point. Christianity in a nutshell is a borrowed story from at least 5 different older religeous stories from before. If some of you have done your homework you will see the christian belief is a modified pegan religeon and just the names of the characters have been changed.

      My comment: My last big point. Unless you believe in Jesus, you will die in your sins. That goes for every living soul on this earth, including me. Unless you believe that Jesus loved us so much that he shed is blood for our sins, then you will be in an eternity of pain.

      Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

  124. What you say…yes, it does not seem “right” or “fair”..but I can tell you that I HAVE forgiven the two people for what they did to my son. BUT, sad to say it took me a LONG TIME and I feel so much more at peace with it all since I have. It was not just an overnight thing, but I can say that absolutelty Jesus did give me the desire to forgive them. You see, I understand that it is and was the evil spirits running around and possessing some and oppressing some that makes them do these things. I know that now, did I know that fully all these years. NO. Oh, but I can tell you that I do truly love them as human beings and I know God can and will forgive them if they ask. and, YES, it was an experience throughout all these last 24 years that made me who I am today and that is a forgiving person….that hates the sin but loves the sinner. I have not been a perfect person either…and have done things I am not proud of and pray that people I hurt will forgive me. You know, I spent many years in bondage over what was done to my son, it drug me down and him….and it was TERRIBLE watching all the suicide attempts, his being locked in mental institutions…but JESUS has redeemed us both of this terrible time of our life!! I can say with the way that Jesus showed up in my life these past 18 months, OH HE IS SO REAL…I am literally DANCING…AND I can say that for the FIRST time in my life!! So, yes, thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus. If you could only feel the JOY in my soul. I pray that all can feel this joy!!! There is NOTHING like it. NOTHING. I am saying this is all earnest…if you could see me now!!!!

  125. It leaves me to say only a few things……..

    First,
    Gloria, you have appeared to be answering my questions like i am someone confused with what it states in the bible and its preachings. You have quoted and explained that the book and its writings are simple and i should not complicate matters as well as jesus forgives and its al about sacrifice……if you actually read and understand what im trying to say you will find that you have not answered a single question because religeon fails to answer. You cant quote me passages out of a book because it makes you a repeater and not a person of genuine faith. I know that most of faiths come from fear and the unknown of what is really out there……You have pushed and pushed to find logic in fables and wives tales it has crippled your logical thinking because thats what faith is…. a way of living that disregards all logical thinking and accepts fantasy and fiction.

    I am glad that you managed to find peace in your version of reality. You seem to be confused also that im someone who is living in pain or has a chip on his shoulder? Let me correct you again…..ive not done enough bad in my life yet to feel like my guilt should overwhelm me, not enough for me to feel like i need to put my faith into something because i live in fear of what may or not be. I am at peace and do not carry burdens or negativeness because i have yet to have someone close to me which was victim to such acts. I however know the difference between someone who lives in peace and that peace being shattered because my jesus and my faith goes into my baby son and my loving wife. I live for them and i will do anything to protect them even sacrifice my own life without thought if i thought it meant saving theirs. So i ask you when someone in tune with that kind of love and that kind of sacrifice has these things taken from them you can expect that person will never be the same again no matter what and who proves to be correct with religeon or science. Just like if i stripped you all from your jesus and proved right now he did not exist….im sure most of you will take your own lives because their would be nothing for you all to live for and pray to. You see how there is no difference when viewed like that?

    As for not answering directly my original 3 questions……..i mean giving me a straight answer instead of beating the bush with what was meant with this and that – and it takes more effort to forgive and forget than to hate and be angry. It is serious. Its serious because your worlds have become prisons and have capsulated your thinking to 3 small sad points…….live and breath for jesus (only and nothing more – in fact consider him even more important than god), turn the other cheek when evil is done upon you and believe that you will be one of the many few who will be hand picked and taken to paradise on firework night. However you think it sounds….your lives are 3 points and being controlled by a book that was written by a mason who was clever enough to know the majority need to base their fears and needs to something divine so it works for us to create another religeon and hand it to them in a way where we can control them and then obide.

    my questions again in even simpler form…

    1, everyone can be forgiven….most people on their death bed repent and ask for forgiveness because its game over and they need to believe in something for the there after

    2. its cool for the unborn to suffer and the babies and young children who do not yet understand or to choose to accept jesus will just perish like the rest who dont let him in their hearts

    3. It proves non of you know well any other older religeons to see how similar the christian fable is to all of the older religeons. You scared to see the similarities that will question your precious faith or is it you know that too much digging into real facts and real proofs around you will leave you with the truth….and that being you have been played the fool…..

    Your worried about the mark of the beast which will come in the form of buying and selling. You can try figure that out in religeous meanings all you want i know already what this translates to and it not good news for the sleepers. The only mark you need to consider is the words i am going to give you now…..

    We will sit together, and watch together…..as the time you have quoted for the end of days comes, passes and settles….you will see that the only thing which has happened is the following….

    the world will begin its singularity with the new world order…..goverment will collapse from the recession which will be unrecoverable,the germans will loan the money to politically invade the crippling countries and then the last sign you will see will be that of the extra terrestrial life which has been hidden from us by our goverments / illuminati from the beginning. The problem will be once they are made public our real nightmare will become because as the story goes……this planet doesnt apparently belong to us.

    The next war which is soon will be us trying to survive the ETs, Since the odds are not with us on this one……all i can say is try do something good before it actually happens, and think again about my 3 questions because i already know there is no answer in christianity that can answer them….not directly anyways and certainly not in a form that can be accepted as a reasonable reply….

    just my 2 cents as the americans say

    • I quote you the Word of God because you obviously do not know the Word. Your words state that you are confused and yet you are here to convince others of this confusion. You spin your lies that have no obvious conclusion.

      You say “everyone can be forgiven” but obviously you refuse to see what I’ve written about the Word of God in heart and forgiveness. You choose to ignore and would rather follow the “king” of this world.

      With all due respect, please take your lies and confusion somewhere else. We are all here to learn from the Word of God and its obvious you refuse to.

  126. If you are here to learn the word of god i think you need to check the title of this thread, as for me being confused your not reading correctly, i said you appear to think i am confused. My words mean that im far from it. I see with clarity and do not base my knowledge on a word because it is written. This is the difference…..

    but as always my questions go unanswered and the religeous stay ignorant……this is the conclusion of our future and what it means for most. This ignorant will live till they realise the truth in the end….and the rest will struggle to survive as that is what is in our nature.

    I am not here to convice anyone of anything…..my role is to lay down facts…..things that you are unable to do……facts which are determined by whats in front of your eyes and senses not what a book translated over 2000 years ago could mean today……

    ignorance is sometimes the best way out for salvation,

    • Keri,

      As a believer in Christ, I can always learn more about the Word of God. That’s the difference between me and you. I can learn, I believe, and love Jesus.

      I’m reading it correctly. You are confused and a mocker of the Word. You also have a “hardened heart” against the truth which is Jesus Christ.

      2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires

      Romans 2:5 But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed.

      Your not here to ask questions to learn. You here to ask questions, to try and make us believe you. You have wasted our time. You say your role is to “lay down facts”, but yet your “facts” are opinions, where you want to discredit Jesus Christ’s Word. The devil likes to cause division, and confusion. That is one of his goals to try and take your soul, and tons of others.

      1 Peter 5:8 Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

      I actually feel sorry for you Keri. Because with all my heart I know that if you die without Jesus Christ, an eternity of pain is what awaits you for not believing in HIM.

      Revelation 21:8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

  127. Keri, Gloria is right, OR most importantly Jesus is right. The right way. We can only pray for you that the Lord will reveal himself to you in a mighty way but you must be open to receiving it for Him to do so. Since you don’t need to be convinced or are not here questioning If Jesus is real, He may have already blinded your eyes to the truth. I pray not. Seek me with all your heart and you will find me is what Jesus says. And I am a walking living testimony to that truth. He showed up in a way I could never have imagined. He is so real. If you ever want to reconsider and ask Him If he is real, if you seek in earnest He WILL show you.

  128. debvaugh and gloria,

    let me word some things to do a different way and please dont take offence as i am merely giving examples here. Are with of you in the science industry or either in some technological break through sector that unveils what humans are capable of doing with science and technology? My guess is no. Therefor your minds are not able to hold the capacity of that department. So my example is, if your minds cant collate and understand something how are you to know what it all means or where we are on that front? Im no brain surgeon but my job is with technology and with keeping interests with what the world in doing in terms of progress to illness, progress to medical aid….look at the human transplants happening around the world saving millions of lives which nature if would have would not allow. We are using our intelligence for good and all this in my eyes is considered the devils work because primitive religeous thinking does not allow that capacity to see the good as its out of their understanding….Thats why i see my world through the pioneering advances of man and nothing else……and how we are dabbling now with cloning etc means some other being dabbled to create us with the same concepts…..our dna is proof and will also unlock in the future our truth (without religeoun i may add) our human histories are all stored in our dna and with new methods we will be able to unlock and know our real truth…..

    My second example….how you believe in jesus and the rest. You have seen etc etc and he has spoken to you. Im not a brain surgeon nor a mind analyst /shrink. But i read alot and see how in general the mind works…..you believe because you want to believe, you believe because you have chosen to believe in this and nothing else. You also believe because apparently you have personal experiences which revealed themselves to you. Now my example is…..im in a club and someone spikes my drink with a narcotic that has certain effects. This effects include seeing things that arent there for example. Hallucinations, voices and other misinterpretations giving off from a small pill. Im trying to show you the difference between how easy it is to believe in something through the trick of the mind. Have you counted how many people believe in what and who on this planet? Have you any idea what philosophies people live by or codes? There are endless and thats because evey mind is unique and has a certain method of thinking. A human is nothing more that a computer with a soul. We have a mind (the hard drive) we have the brain the processor, we have nerve signalling (ram / memory transport) we have programs (our characteristics). Without the soul……we are nothing more than robots so thats why things on that respect start changing and appear to make more sense. A program (your mind) can be changed, modified and even corrupted with a single virus or hacking technique. What im saying is if i wanted to i could invest all my money in setting you up in such a malicious way that i could get you to believe in anything i want? How? I know certain facts already about you. i know you love jesus so i will use him as my root to misleed you. There would be millions of ways i could tap into your home and rigging everything to fill my need to sway you over to my side. It doesnt just end there…….when you go for injections the goverment gives you for free…like flue jabs or whatever….how do you really know what they are sticking in you? You a doctor? Have you ways to analyse the chemical that goes into you? The why do you believe that what they are sticking into you is what they say it is and not some drug to make it easier for people to control?

    If you read closely to what im saying is that anyone can be made to believe in anything as all thats needed is to fill the mind of the victom with what he wants to see and believe. Like yourselves….you are waiting for redemption, the rapture etc…you believe you will be saved…….that chanting to scientific type person sounds like madness. What is the difference between a person like yourself who is in here trying to convert people to accept jesus and someone at a bus stop who is homeless and drugged with crack claiming the world will end and jesus loves us……he claims what your claiming yet this person is completely out of his mind…….

    You either respect my examples rather than take offence and admit what im saying has a point at least. Or you can continue to see through a tube instead of the whole picture and realise that in the end what you have praying to will not save you. No divine thing will save man because if man as a whole is not worthy to live on and survice we will all perish…..and thats the truth. Faith needs to put in ourselves and not something else no matter what it is

    • Your comment: But i read alot and see how in general the mind works…..you believe because you want to believe, you believe because you have chosen to believe in this and nothing else.

      My comment: So you “reading a lot” somehow elevates you to a higher status of how things work? That’s absurd and ridiculous. More importantly, I believe, and have accepted Jesus and have been in the presence of Jesus Christ. So no again, anything you say you’ll be wasting your breath.

      John 12:37-43 Even after Jesus had done all these miraculous signs in their presence, they still would not believe in him. This was to fulfill the word of Isaiah the prophet: “Lord, who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?” For this reason they could not believe, because, as Isaiah says elsewhere: “He has blinded their eyes and deadened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn–and I would heal them.” Isaiah said this because he saw Jesus’ glory and spoke about him. Yet at the same time many even among the leaders believed in him. But because of the Pharisees they would not confess their faith for fear they would be put out of the synagogue; for they loved praise from men more than praise from God.

      Your comment: If you read closely to what im saying is that anyone can be made to believe in anything as all thats needed is to fill the mind of the victom with what he wants to see and believe.

      My comment: If you read closely to what I’m saying that unless you believe in Christ, repent from your sins, and stop with the lies and mockery of his word, you will not be saved.

      Romans 1:18-20 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities–his eternal power and divine nature–have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

      I have nothing furthermore to say to you. You have said nothing to be but lies, and I get the feeling you will continue coming back to post your lies, and confusion.

      Again I ask, kindly leave this blog, and post your lies elsewhere.

      May Jesus the one and only TRUE KING, touch your hardened heart, and open your eyes.

      Gloria

  129. gloria,

    i consider you to be one the most brain washed. You dont answer anything in respect to what i say instead you hope around my words with passages and text from the bible.

    Truth is this……you are in todays fashion for religeon. Chistians (such as my self who go as far as only to believe in god) are a group of people who were created only 2000 years ago. ONLY 2000 years. If in your head this is enough proof for you to continue to believe in just that then its your business and not mine. Im not here to convince like you are trying to convince others. Quite frankly im not here to convince anyone im just here to see other peoples views on what the ABOVE TITLE of the forum thread states – Preparing for an invasion.

    I think it is you who is spamming this board and do not understand enough to share the bigger picture

    We have all heard the stories and read the books. Its time now for fresh new minds to grab the reality for what it is and contribute their awareness to the subject. The fact is no one will change their beliefs over night and you for one should know that…..if your after a choir of people to sing with you in church you need to find another forum which states just that.

    As for lies? What have i said thats a lie? Is the pyramid a lie? is the medication you take and I a lie? is seeings an aircraft pass you a lie? Further more since what i claim is in front of you but you still prive to not aknowledge anything then im afraid you are to be considered one of the most close minded people in here. If you cant put one and one together to make two then why are you here to try and bring people that have climbed the ladder to enlightenment.

    I wish not to waste my time of yours talking directly to you on this subject because we are on different pages. I combine my christian beliefs with science and fact to make sense of what we are and where we are. You are a faith-er…takes nothing for you to question myths….and thats fine……you are entitled and it doesnt bother me even the slightest what you believe in….

    but the debait here did not start with jesus it started with the question is the human race under threat from an alien race. How jesus found itself into the subject is beyond me and this is what we want to find out with others who have an oppinion what they think on the matter.

    I think you are misplaced here as anyone who is seraching for answers will surely not find it with you as like i stated, you dance around quotes and passages not knowing what half of it means – only because it says so in the bible. Other people have religeons too….why neglect theirs?

    Anyways i am tired of arguin with you on the subject. i said before your welcome to believe whatever im not here pushing anyone do come join my crew of beleivers from another hand written book…..

    My oppinion, put your reading into a little more dated than christians…….go check up the tablets left by the sumerians and tell me what your oppinion of that is once you get passed reading it fully…….

    Anyone else who would like to discuss further on this topic and what it really stands for, please comment on this post before it start turning into a church session on a sunday morning…..

    • Keri,

      I have been called far worse than “brainwashed.” It does not bother me. For I know that Jesus loves me so much, that many who do not agree with him, will issue insults and far more. That is fine. Christ warned us of this.

      Your comment: I combine my christian beliefs with science and fact to make sense of what we are and where we are

      My comment: You combine what you wish to be truth, and perhaps your heart is so hard that you essentially believe it. It’s a sad sight to see, especially when all you have to do is reach out to Jesus for the truth.

      Your comment: Anyone else who would like to discuss further on this topic and what it really stands for, please comment on this post before it start turning into a church session on a sunday morning…..

      My comment: You say I haven’t answered any of your questions. Well here’s a ridiculous one you posted earlier.

      Your Comment:. Even before new borns and other children who have not been able to understand religeon have not had a chance to accept anything are condemned when judgement comes. Is that fair? No doesnt matter because jesus would rather save the lives of what i mention in point 1. so forget the innocent kids who are worth less to him……

      My Comment: Let’s see what the Lord says about children in the Bible.

      Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it.

      Psalm 127:3 Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward.

      Matthew 18:1-3 At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?” And calling to him a child, he put him in the midst of them and said, “Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

      See the above verses, especially Matthew 18. Does that sound like Jesus does not care for a child? Does that sound like he thinks they are worthless? Again, you are so wrong, and a mocker of the Word.

      I could tell you how I pray to Jesus every night to watch over my children. I could tell you that no one knew of that prayer, until a Pastor reached out to me, and confirmed it, by simply stating: Jesus wanted me to tell you, he’s watching over your children.

      But then I’d be wasting my breath, for a mocker like you wouldn’t care and would perhaps use “medical and scientific” lies to try and discredit anything.

      Your next post will spammed, so don’t bother posting again, unless you repent of your ways.

      May Jesus Christ have mercy on you.

      • NTM Readers: I have decided to spam Keri. The goal of NTM is to expose fake and falsehood. And while all readers are welcome to post their opinions in a respectful manner, I draw the line where people accuse Jesus of finding children worthless. And I will draw the line in continuation of posting lies, and showing no regets for them.

        God Bless!

      • But it’s your interpretation to what a “lie” is. And we all know how bias your opinion is. Censoring someone because you believe they are lying is violating their rights, and it’s nothing short of a fascist tactic.

        You don’t KNOW the truth, you only proclaim to know it.

  130. As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord….

    Thank you Jesus for saving me!!! I was once a sinner ( a big one), I was once lost, but NOW I am found!!!

  131. Let me take you down
    Cause I’m going to Strawberry Fields
    Nothing is real
    And nothing to get hung about
    Strawberry Fields forever

    Living is easy with eyes closed
    Misunderstanding all you see
    It’s getting hard to be someone
    But it all works out
    It doesn’t matter much to me

    Let me take you down
    ‘Cause I’m going to Strawberry Fields
    Nothing is real
    And nothing to get hung about
    Strawberry Fields forever

  132. Science is pretty amazing. Knowledge is infinite. With enough knowledge you can do, literally, ANYTHING. It’s science. Knowledge is the true currency of the Universe. Knowledge rules, and if we are saved, it’ll be by someone or something with A LOT more knowledge than we have. We are ignorant, close-minded people and it’s certainly quite plausible that we were engineered this way. Being created in somethings “image” as with the manipulation of DNA anything can be created in anything’s image. Genetics, DNA, and science fiction becoming science-reality.

    I can only imagine the things that are researched, developed and manufactured in underground military bases all over the World. Knowledge rules and we have very little of it which is why we have to work jobs and pray homage to something else in hopes that we’ll be saved.

    Non serviam!

  133. Gloria,

    why are you still copyig and pasting meesages to me when im spammed and cant reply?……i think your readers are seeing exactly what kind of show your running here…..were its your oppinion and everyone elses doesnt matter especially when they have questioned you and your belief without a sustainable answer.

  134. Gloria,

    why are you still copyig and pasting meesages to me when im spammed and cant reply?……i think your readers are seeing exactly what kind of show your running here…..were its your oppinion and everyone elses doesnt matter especially when they have questioned you and your belief without a sustainable answer.

    Just in this respect as i will not post again (i can hack you till it gets boring as since i dont think you are worth any more of my time i choose to leave this bubble just to prove im not here to convince anyone over to what i believe… please spam this post also so your readers dont catch on…….

    • Keri,

      I think I know what the problem is. You have subscribed to receive emails when people reply to this subject. This is an easy fix. In the email you receive, click unsubscribe at the bottom. This is why you are receiving emails.

      God Bless

      Gloria

  135. listen gloria,

    the fact end of the day and i mean the real fact. It seems you and many other who have your condition has suffered some kind of extreme truamatic event in their past and im sorry to say that it does show in the character you have become. I will not pretend to know how you must of felt during it whatever it was but the human brain does not just come out of it and start where it left off. That scarring is for life and all humans can do is create mental blocks (the natural defence for a mind to allow the brain to continue – black it out completely) or the mind will allow you to create a belief where it comforts you and allows you once again to live some kind of life without going down the routes of suicide, revenge crusades or even self harm. Its a fact and happens to millions as we speak. The mind is crackable and depending on how much you are pushed we all crack.

    Now you wish you choose all this to comfort your traumas, i commend you. You have managed to keep standing on your own two feet and move forward.

    You need to understand that with your un-provable faith…..what person in his right mind (an educated / scientific mind) will just discard all and follow words of a book that talks in code and has multiple meaning for each person that reads it. Even you and debvaughn at some points above in this thread argue…..because personally the words mean different things to each reader.

    Your system is flawed, your understandings are all differentand end of the day unlike you. I will no longer warn people of the real danger in here as they are heart set on what they think it states in the bible……

    so im very very fine with that……each to their own. My background is give respect to all stories and combine where we are with science and try make sense what it all means as a whole…not just a part which is what you have absorbed.

    there is a point to what im saying

    • I can honestly say nothing traumatic has happened in my life. Jesus has shown his love to me over and over again, and for that I’m grateful. And more importantly, for the fact that he died on the cross, for our sins, and rose again.

      You say my faith in Christ is “unproveable?” And I tell you that the devil is a liar, and the king of lies.

      John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

      That is the different between me and you. I have faith in Christ, have seen his Glory. You have a hardened heart, and would rather believe he doesn’t exist. But it doesn’t change the truth. Our King come soon, and just as his Word says: Every knee shall bow, and confess to God.

      1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

  136. so to you im the son of the devil? Thats funny coming from you because i consider myself as quite the good samaritan when it comes to helping people of all faiths and races that need helping. I actually help in a physical sense instead of preaching meaningless cryptic texts which can mean the difference from here all the way to the moon. Your job is to argue what you believe yourself and anything else is the devil or the son of satan. In my eyes i can label you quite easily a primitive mind that believes that something scientific is infact a divine presence. Thats your choice and i am not wasting my time on you and your stubborness to see alternatives that explain better what it is thats going on here. Its sad but like i say we cant all be saved but you already know that…the problem for you is you think your going to be beamed up on a divine light sent by jesus who has hand picked you and others who believe like you do. Its a weak belief, has no credibility and goes to show that primitive understanding concludes in the ways that you do. Taking words of a written manuscript called the bible and applying it to be divine without an ounce of proof that what your saying is fact.

    I didnt know the devils children helped other. In fact more so than the standard christians who claim they have found jesus but are weak on helping parts. You say you pray? I say its not enough even for what you believe. A good christian is about the action and not the praise. Jesus does not expect us to waste our time with worship, i would believe if he is real he would expect us to prove ourselves to him with the kind of life we choose to live and what we do in our life. Are we good or are we bad? Thats what weighs more than prayer. He sees us from above all the time doesnt he? He obviously expect us to prove what a christian actually means? Mind you since you lack much of your history i will not bore you any further on christianity and there crusades and what they did in the name of jesus? You see my point is there are many types of christians…they all really and truly believe in jesus christ…..infact they chant that name in belief they are to go to heaven right before they hack and murder innoncent people that get in their way. I dont remember reading that was part of being a good christian.

    Gloria, you are christian you say, well so are millions of others who commit mass murder and evil every day. Are they all to be forgiven because they let jesus in to their hearts? End of the day there will be more psycho souls and tormented souls with him than actual good living christians because every evil piece of crap that i know just before they are locked up for life or get some terminal disease which will result in death do they actually look towards god and jesus. Not while they were in their prime of commiting evil.

    You and i see things different. I want to save this planet with the people who actually deserve to be saved. It is not fair we segregate those to be saved by ccolour of their skin or religeon they were born into. It is simply the good should be saved and in exceptions the few who are tormented and want to be good but evil within them prevents it. There is though pure evil on this planet and there are people who are quite aware of their evil….it makes it worse for christianity when these people hide amongst you and decalre they love jesus just as you do gloria.

    My main point so it doesnt go on and on is this…… Its proabably best i move out of this forum and start another thread for people who have clicked on to whats happening around us. We are under threat and its not from god.

    As for yourself…..good luck and i hope you continue to find comfort with what you follow. I for one know words will not be enough to change any outcome. If we dont act in respect to whats going to happen….then it will be true….we will not survive. Unfortunately…neither will you as whats coming will make those who have not accepted the real truth cry with fear and most likely force many to take their own lives.

    Again, i hope you remain in comfort to your faith

    • I have allowed your message to escape the spam to show you God’s Word.

      You said: I didnt know the devils children helped other. In fact more so than the standard christians who claim they have found jesus but are weak on helping parts. You say you pray? I say its not enough even for what you believe. A good christian is about the action and not the praise.

      My comment: Without faith, and just works you will not get into the kingdom of heaven.

      Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.

      James 2:18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.

      Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

      Your comment: My main point so it doesnt go on and on is this…… Its proabably best i move out of this forum and start another thread for people who have clicked on to whats happening around us. We are under threat and its not from god.

      My comment: We are under threat from Satan, and must put on the armor of God.

      Ephesians 6:11 Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes.

      Your comment: You and i see things different. I want to save this planet with the people who actually deserve to be saved.

      My comment: You cannot save anyone. It is only Jesus that saves.

      Acts 4:12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

  137. China has just started using biologically cloned humanoid drones in its factories and military to counter population aging from one child policy. This biocloning was started by Tong Dizhou in the early 1990s to produce star athletes but was later taken up by the PLA military. The clones are grown in the wombs of slave women from allied African dictators. and have been known to appear on American soil as illegal workers. Food and Drug Administration investigators say the Chinese spiked pet food with melamine so that they would appear in tests to have more value as protein products. They sell drywall which emit suflide fumes! Given their blatant disregard for American safey in products they sell, because they don’t care if we stay alive after we enrich them, it is worrisome that these clones have not been adequately tested for potential disease transmission. Why aren’t anti-American professors who were hawking phoney Japanese “quality” complaining about their fellow reds in China?

  138. Although i am Catholic i use what is called by some as A Brain!

    Logic dictates that God is not an idiot. God is perfect, all knowing, all powerful, all [insert adjective]… While i believe in God i dont believe in religion.

    Sin? What sin? God made us as we are, therefore it is his fault if we sin or make mistakes. And since God doesnt make mistakes then logic dictates that he deliberately made us to be ‘imperfect’ & all that comes with that.

    And why would god make Satan if not deliberately?? Join the dots people, stop thinking in such limited human/biological perspectives. God is not an old man in the sky that gets angry when we ‘sin’. Anger is a weakness thus god does not get angry or vengeful like so many religious zealots believe.

    Also, since god is EVERYTHING that makes us god as well. The tress, rocks, planets, the entire universe IS god. Nothing can exist that is not god. God is all that is. Hence that basic logic alone will allow you to draw conclusions, such as we r not here to ‘learn’ or ‘evolve’ as spiritualists believe, nor grovel to god to enter heaven as the religious believe. We r simply an ‘expression’ of god, we exist just to exist, otherwise god would have created us as perfect beings to avoid all this sin nonsense in the 1st place. We r here to experience imperfection, life’s beauty & limitations, etc. Not merely to evolve or earn our way back to god. That is irrational.

    All this religious cloak & dagger nonsense is so childish i am surprised adults r so easily brainwashed. Then again seeing all the cults it doesnt surprise me any more.

    the bible says we r created in gods image. Brain dead people take this literally that god has 2 legs, arms, etc. Why would god need any arms, legs, head, genitalia, etc???? These r biological requirements, not god requirements. How about using science & logic?? The entire universe is composed of energy, that clusters into objects such as planets, life forms, air, electricity, etc. So in that sense we do look like god, we r energy, as is god.

    If the devil exists then i expect god (who created that being) to also give us ample defenses & knowledge against it. Not just leave us defenseless. the bible is not adequate since we dont know god inspired it or how man has modified it for political reasons. Much of the bible was taken form sumerian texts so already we know the scripts r not 100% original.

    Even better, why would god let loose such a being anyway? I do not accept original sin. I didnt do it so neither god nor anyone else has any right to punish me for what adam/eve did.

    God is not stupid so i doubt he blames me or you & thus i doubt much of the bible’s scary stuff. But if it is true, then that would mean god is NOT perfect. That is what would scare me. A powerful being that is not all loving..

    “Romans 3:23 For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard.

    Isaiah 64:6 We are all infected and impure with sin. When we display our righteous deeds, they are nothing but filthy rags. Like autumn leaves, we wither and fall, and our sins sweep us away like the wind.”

    What rubbish. Think, dont just accept everything that is put in front of you. If you make poor software, then expect poor software performance. No use yelling at the computer, or punishing it. That fact remains that it was made imperfect so it will behave imperfect, JUST AS IT WAS PROGRAMMED TO DO.

    Thus i will behave just as i was made by god, i do my best to be good but will make mistakes. If god doesn’t like that then too bad, he should of made me perfect if he expected perfect output.

    Problem with any religion is that its twisted by people who love cloak & dagger, or similar ‘entertainment’, something to fight against, or to blame for when things go wrong.

    Some people love to feel unworthy, in an attempt at false modesty. The list of psychological reasons r endless.

    I simply prefer to life life as best i can, help my fellow man/woman, care for the environment, work hard, etc. That should be good enough for god. I will not praise god, or worship him, but i will respect & love him- I am no one’s slave (except maybe my wife’s LOL). And since god is perfect it would be illogical for him to expect adoration/worship which is instead a very HUMAN desire, if not failing, not god’s.

    the bible attributes many HUMAN attributes to god, & that is enough for me to doubt very much its authenticity.

    cheers

    rob

  139. u guys are all crazzyyyy….. it almost seems to me none of us was there when jesus was at his time how would any one know whut he said… and beacause some jack ass preacher said so becasuse he asked alot of questions please all of u make me sick….. all these daum prist make more money than all offff uss … i dont trust none of them all they care abaut is selling their funky book they wrote….
    when jesus comes down i ill belive other than that all of u are crazyyyyy…

  140. Just curious on when the rapture is supposed to happen Debvaughn? I’m still waiting…

    But then again, that’s all you people do is wait. Quit waiting and start taking control. Lifting your arms in the air and saying ‘praise jesus’ will get you no where. Start living, start learning, only knowledge can save us. Start gaining it for it’s the most precious resource in existence.

    It’ll take many generations of death, birth, death, birth, death, birth. Maybe hundreds of years, but one day religion will be viewed upon by future men as archaic, unnecessary, and simply primitive. Hell, much will change once all the baby boomers die off.

    • Mike,

      You said: Lifting your arms in the air and saying ‘praise jesus’ will get you no where

      My comment: It’s obvious you don’t believe in Jesus, because if you did, that comment would have never came out of your mouth.

      2 Corinthians 4:4 In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

      Your comments also remind me of these verses:

      Acts 13:41 “‘Look, you scoffers, be astounded and perish; for I am doing a work in your days, a work that you will not believe, even if one tells it to you.’”

      2 Peter 3:2-3 That you should remember the predictions of the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior through your apostles, knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires.

      • I just heard the words of someone who stated they were inspired by God, Debvaughn, and nothing has come to fruition. What makes Debvaughn any different than the “prophets” of old?

        What is it exactly that defines someone as a prophet? What accrediting council oversees this? Or is just simply being antiquated enough for us modern folk to “take heart”, listen, and believe.

        I believe that Jesus existed, but as for his divinity, I’m highly doubting it. Someone very special, sure, but God… I don’t know. However, it’s not the worst thing for this only puts me in the same boat as every other non-christian human in existence (which is the majority). Guess I’ll parish like the rest, according to the christian religion.

        Religions coincide with cultures. It’s how people are raised to believe. Many people form different cultures believe differently. Hence why religion is irrelevant, and far from the truth.

        There are many roads to the same place, whatever that may be, even be it oblivion.

      • Mike,

        Your comment: What makes Debvaughn any different than the “prophets” of old?

        My comment: I don’t know who Debvaughn is so I can’t comment. But you want a difference between a prophet of God and one who’s not.

        False prophet:

        1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

        Matthew 24:24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.

        Galatians 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!

        Prophets

        Romans 12:6-7 Having gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, in proportion to our faith; if service, in our serving; the one who teaches, in his teaching;

        1 Corinthians 12:7-11 To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills.

  141. Dear Scientists, thank you very much to travel this step. You are the Head of the collective Terrestrial Mind, Consciousness and Wisdom. Who else must do it. With all respect for the Clerical Top. Don’t fall into the Galilei Galileo trap.

    SUCCESS !

  142. Keri,

    The Bible is pretty straight forward. You choose to make it difficult with my misbelief and misconceptions.

    You either believe in Jesus Christ, and repent of your sins. Or you don’t. Jesus tells us exactly those who do not accept him, where they will go.

    On a personal note, I know this Pastor who resides in Puerto Rico, and his daughter was murdered by her husband. The man was captured and put in jail. The murderer asked for forgiveness, and the Pastor went over and gave it to him. I acknowledge that it must have taken alot of prayer fo the Pastor to forgive him. But through Jesus Christ anything is possible.

    If we do not forgive others when they sin against us, what will you tell Christ when you stand before him one day soon?

    Romans 3:23 For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard.

    Isaiah 64:6 We are all infected and impure with sin. When we display our righteous deeds, they are nothing but filthy rags. Like autumn leaves, we wither and fall, and our sins sweep us away like the wind.

    Proverbs 28:13 People who conceal their sins will not prosper, but if they confess and turn from them, they will receive mercy.

    Hosea 5:15 Then I will return to my place until they admit their guilt and turn to me. For as soon as trouble comes, they will earnestly search for me.”

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